Speaker 1: What's that ad?
Speaker 2: It's spooky jooky.
Speaker 1: I'm reretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I'm goosted.
Speaker 1: I days.
Speaker 4: Pa, Hey boo, it's me Roz. We got some return
Speaker 4: favorites on the pod today.
Speaker 5: I don't know when it was.
Speaker 1: At some point, was it two years ago, was it
Speaker 1: one year ago, I'm not sure, but at some point
Speaker 1: I had on Vanessa and Michael from the podcast I'm
Speaker 1: Not Busy, and people loved them. They're so funny. I'm
Speaker 1: obsessed with them. You should go listen to their podcast.
Speaker 1: I actually did an episode. They don't often have guests,
Speaker 1: but one time I was on their podcast and we
Speaker 1: just we laughed so much together. And they're just such
Speaker 1: good energy, both of them. I just really I really
Speaker 1: like them, and go back and listen when they were
Speaker 1: on this show, because on that when they share their
Speaker 1: experiences and their stories and their beliefs and all of that.
Speaker 1: And today we're doing more the newer format that I've
Speaker 1: been doing a lot lately, and we're going to be
Speaker 1: looking into the Battersea Poultergeist, which is a famous Poultergeist
Speaker 1: case that I knew a bit about. There's a really
Speaker 1: successful podcast that covered it, and I just learned that
Speaker 1: it's going to be a TV show. I believe, a
Speaker 1: scripted TV show that's based on it, produced by Blumhouse
Speaker 1: that will be on Peacock, So look out for that.
Speaker 1: But Michael and Vanessa, they're so funny. Michael I've met
Speaker 1: through listen to their podcast, Michael's Besties with Vanessa, and
Speaker 1: I've known Vanessa for a couple of years. We used
Speaker 1: to do shows together and she uh oh, she's been
Speaker 1: blowing up. She was named one of Variety's Comedians to
Speaker 1: Watch of twenty twenty two. She's also been opening for
Speaker 1: Chelsea Handler, touring around doing that. And the two of
Speaker 1: them together are Michael and Vanessa. They're they're just they're
Speaker 1: so great. So you're gonna enjoy this, I hope. If
Speaker 1: you're not, don't tell me no, you will anyway. Typical
Speaker 1: stuff Patreon link in the description. Full episodes and videos
Speaker 1: on there, and yeah, let's just do it. Here's Michael
Speaker 1: and Vanessa from the podcast I'm not busy on with
Speaker 1: the show, you guys. Vanessa and Michael are back. Hello,
Speaker 1: how are you guys?
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, so good now that we're talking to you.
Speaker 5: I miss you.
Speaker 1: I miss you too well. I always listen to your podcast,
Speaker 1: so it's like that weird thing of like, oh, I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm talking to you guys, but you don't
Speaker 1: like I can't talk to you. I just listen to
Speaker 1: you guys talking to me. And you know, I'm such
Speaker 1: a fan, and you guys were recently talking about witches
Speaker 1: and every once in a while you get a little
Speaker 1: spooky on the show, which I always appreciate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we like it.
Speaker 2: I like the spookies.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Michael Moore, I'm still you know, I'm a scaredy cat,
Speaker 5: but I feel like I've been trying to be brave.
Speaker 1: Well, you've been traveling. I see you opening for Chelsea Handler.
Speaker 1: Are you going to any haunted theaters or any haunted hotels?
Speaker 5: Literally, like every theater we do, I'm always like is
Speaker 5: it haunted? And they're like, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: Did they tell you like the story of the woman
Speaker 1: in white that everyone sees on the stage.
Speaker 5: No, I'm always like, is it I think that's Chelsea,
Speaker 5: that's the ghost. But yeah, I anytime they're like it's haunted, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I feel like it's always kind of a similar thing
Speaker 5: where they're just like, yeah, we hear like woo's or groans,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, okay, just standing back there. Also, who
Speaker 5: knows I may be talking to a ghost when this happens.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. They're just like if people are growning
Speaker 1: during your acts, it's don't worry, it's just a ghost.
Speaker 5: The staff is fucking.
Speaker 6: That's a good cover up. You're just like, oh, that
Speaker 6: that sound you hear ghosts, don't worry about it. Don't
Speaker 6: worry about it.
Speaker 1: Literally, I have been thinking about that so much lately.
Speaker 1: I've been getting more skeptical of paranormal stuff in a
Speaker 1: way that I think is healthy, and I think it's
Speaker 1: good for the paranormal world. I'm not like a full
Speaker 1: on non believer, but there's so many stories that I've
Speaker 1: been encountering lately where I'm like, could that just have
Speaker 1: been somebody that was in a place that they shouldn't
Speaker 1: have been and then they blamed it on a ghost
Speaker 1: or were they talking shit? And they were like, no,
Speaker 1: it wasn't me, it was a ghost maker. Like I
Speaker 1: was just reading one where a ghost in this house
Speaker 1: was like mimicking people's voices and so they would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I just heard Vanessa in the other room talking shit
Speaker 1: and then they go in there and there's like nobody
Speaker 1: there or whatever. But I'm like, it could have just
Speaker 1: been Vanessa and they're talking shit. Yeah. I mean she's like, no,
Speaker 1: it's a ghost. They swear it wasn't me.
Speaker 5: That sounds very me blame it on a ghost, which
Speaker 5: I I just love the idea. Of course, in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty two, we're blaming ghosts now.
Speaker 6: I mean that's part style, right, Like it's like you
Speaker 6: blame the dog about the fart, but it's like, now
Speaker 6: we do it with ghosts totally.
Speaker 5: You know why there's inflation ghosts?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, gas prices, ghost ghosts, all of that. You
Speaker 1: were talking Vanessa recently about pulling out the egg. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: which is funny because that's the thing that I've heard
Speaker 1: from my family as well. Can you explain this the egg?
Speaker 5: Okay? I recently pulled out the egg on one of
Speaker 5: my friends, Roxy because she thought she got the evil eye.
Speaker 5: So I was like, I got this. It was my
Speaker 5: first I'm performing the egg ritual. So we got an
Speaker 5: egg and as I like rubbed it on her, I
Speaker 5: said like a prayer to like release the negativity from her.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I did it right, but that's
Speaker 5: what my mom would do, was like if you got
Speaker 5: like the evil eye, a hole, or a fever, they
Speaker 5: rub you with an egg and then you crack it
Speaker 5: in a cup with water, and some people put it
Speaker 5: under the bed, but my mom would put it by
Speaker 5: a window because she said God could see it from
Speaker 5: the window, and then sucks up either negative spirits or
Speaker 5: illness from the egg.
Speaker 1: It goes into the egg. Yeah, I remember my dad
Speaker 1: telling me that that's what his mother would do, like
Speaker 1: put it under the bed in a bowl, and like
Speaker 1: if it cooked, then then the it's an evil egg.
Speaker 1: The devil is inside of that egg. I might still
Speaker 1: eat it. I'm not gonna lie. That's a deviled egg.
Speaker 2: Put it under the bed.
Speaker 6: And then if it's got like sort of like a
Speaker 6: little dollup of like a mustardy yolk on top of
Speaker 6: it and some paprika, it's a deviled egg.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, I never thought about it that way.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean people are giving me side eye
Speaker 1: every time I walk down the street. I'm probably filled.
Speaker 1: I match if I rubbed a couple of eggs on me.
Speaker 1: Right now, we could have a full fill one of
Speaker 1: those deviled egg trays.
Speaker 2: Oh it's a plucky.
Speaker 1: Next time I get invited to something like that, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get a dozen eggs. Just do one of these
Speaker 1: all over my body.
Speaker 6: She is feeding the neighborhood exactly all the evil eye.
Speaker 2: I hope y'all hungry.
Speaker 6: You know, my new favorite zone for poky stuff right
Speaker 6: now is TikTok. I love spooky TikTok. I get on
Speaker 6: there at like two in the morning when I can't sleep,
Speaker 6: and it's all bullshit, but I love it.
Speaker 2: I watched like some of the scariest shit on there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have the hardest time again with the skepticism.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 1: People are so good at faking things now, and you could, like,
Speaker 1: people like kids these days know how to make a
Speaker 1: full on Marvel movie on the damn computer. So how
Speaker 1: am I supposed to know what is real and what
Speaker 1: isn't y'all?
Speaker 2: And I watched this one.
Speaker 6: Oh sorry, go ahead, Oh absolutely, no, no, no no.
Speaker 6: I watched this one like last night, literally last night.
Speaker 6: And so this woman, this like young blonde woman is like, okay,
Speaker 6: I'm babysitting and like, look at this crazy thing.
Speaker 2: I found and it is a doll.
Speaker 6: Maybe of like a child, with its face up against
Speaker 6: the wall, like like layer witch style kind of and
Speaker 6: it's up against the wall and in the doll's pocket
Speaker 6: it has like a bell on it.
Speaker 2: And she's like, this is so weird? Is this like
Speaker 2: real hair? And what the hell is this?
Speaker 6: And then she keeps going and it's kind of a
Speaker 6: long TikTok and then every once in a while, while
Speaker 6: she's doing something else, you see the doll like reflected
Speaker 6: in a mirror, running behind her. So they're like employing children,
Speaker 6: like there are child actors involved in this or oh,
Speaker 6: but it was it was messing me up because like
Speaker 6: little kid ghosts.
Speaker 1: Shit. There was a Poulter geist that was all in
Speaker 1: the papers in England. And did you guys see The
Speaker 1: Conjuring two?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just one.
Speaker 1: The Conjuring two is based on this famous poultergeist in
Speaker 1: England called the Enfield polter Geist. This is not that,
Speaker 1: this is even before miss Enfield poulter Geist. This is
Speaker 1: the batter see Poulter Guys, have you ever heard of it? Okay, well,
Speaker 1: here we go storytime, and please interject if you have
Speaker 1: anything to say, As I read you my research. So
Speaker 1: this is a long story. It took place over twelve
Speaker 1: years in this house, and so this is kind of
Speaker 1: the main bullet points. But it started in nineteen fifty six.
Speaker 1: There was this Victorian house in Battersea, London, and it's
Speaker 1: the Hitchings family. We're talking about Wally Hitchings, his wife Kitty,
Speaker 1: Grandma Ethel who was also known as old Mother Hitchings Nice,
Speaker 1: and her adopted son named John, who at the time
Speaker 1: was in his twenties. And then there's the lead of
Speaker 1: the story, who is named Shirley. And Shirley oh yeah,
Speaker 1: this is back when Shirley was the name of a
Speaker 1: fifteen year old. She was gifteen at the time. I
Speaker 1: know at the time. I'm sure Shirley was like the
Speaker 1: McKenna of the time. So she's in her bad sleeping
Speaker 1: and she notices under her pillow a silver key, just
Speaker 1: like a random silver key that came from nowhere. I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe the two fairies drunk again, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on, but somebody left a key underneath
Speaker 1: her pillow, and so she brings it to her dad.
Speaker 1: Her dad puts it in every hole in the house, and.
Speaker 5: You gotta try every hole you gotta.
Speaker 1: It's nothing. It doesn't fit into any of these holes
Speaker 1: around this house.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So that same night they're here in bangs throughout the
Speaker 1: house and walls are shaking to the point where the
Speaker 1: neighbors are complaining. And actually, Shirley said in an interview
Speaker 1: much later, she said, it sounded like it was coming
Speaker 1: from the bowels of the earth. It was just banging.
Speaker 1: So this goes on for weeks, this kind of thing,
Speaker 1: and they start to hear scratching sounds coming from like
Speaker 1: within their furniture, kind of a claw like scratching. I
Speaker 1: can't really imagine what that sounds like, but that's what
Speaker 1: it says. And they call the cops, they call reporters, photographers.
Speaker 1: No one can figure it out. So they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess this is the only logical explanation would be
Speaker 1: a Poulter guys kill.
Speaker 2: This house is filthy.
Speaker 5: What about pest control?
Speaker 1: What if it's just like, you know, family banging the
Speaker 1: house like from the mouthl nature, Nature's boss.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's probably not ratituy. At that point,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, You're probably dealing with something
Speaker 6: a little bigger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly so, and again they're having like reporters and
Speaker 1: people there and they're like, this is something, but we
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. But just wait, because it
Speaker 1: starts to get crazy. You haven't heard anything yet. So
Speaker 1: they start to name this entity Donald after Donald Duck.
Speaker 2: This entity is not wearing pants. This entity is I'm
Speaker 2: assuming want a top top on, bottoms off.
Speaker 1: That's what one could only assume. But they mainly I
Speaker 1: think they named him that because it seemed like it
Speaker 1: was a grumpy ghost. But as time goes on, a
Speaker 1: bunch of witnesses are saying that they see bed sheets
Speaker 1: flying off of beds, they see slippers walking around on
Speaker 1: their own. No, they see clocks floating through the air.
Speaker 1: Pots and pants are being thrown across rooms, and there's
Speaker 1: chairs moving around the house. And actually I loved this one.
Speaker 1: One of Shirley's gloves was on the ground. It flies
Speaker 1: up and slaps the dead in the face. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it did.
Speaker 5: The gloves with the drama.
Speaker 1: And I'm just picturing it flying and then it stops
Speaker 1: right before it gets to the face and then just yes, yes,
Speaker 1: So Donald is obsessed with Shirley, and it's really centering
Speaker 1: around her. And it's going It's to the point where
Speaker 1: it's kind of following her to work.
Speaker 2: She was working.
Speaker 1: She's fifteen, but she's working as a seamstress. She's starting
Speaker 1: to become known as the Poultergeist girl because she's there's
Speaker 1: always stuff happening with hers. There's sounds that are being heard,
Speaker 1: things are going missing, like she's They're like, oh, the
Speaker 1: polter Guys girl, And it's like kind of ruining her life.
Speaker 1: She's like losing friends and apparently she actually lost her
Speaker 1: job because of this at one point.
Speaker 2: That's discrimination, Yeah, that's discrimination, is I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you she should That's a thing like you should
Speaker 1: be able to if you have a ghost attached to you,
Speaker 1: you should still be able to work.
Speaker 5: I think it's like nobody can help that, not really.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, they tried to get some help. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you about that in a second. They there was
Speaker 1: a night where she was laying in bed and her
Speaker 1: sheets are getting pulled off, which I hate is annoying,
Speaker 1: you know, Oh, it's the worst when that happens. But
Speaker 1: she's doing like a full on tug of war in
Speaker 1: the sheets and then allegedly her body goes stiff and
Speaker 1: she starts levitating. Is that Is that a du alipa song?
Speaker 1: Is that what the song is about? So the press
Speaker 1: is going crazy and they're kind of playing it like
Speaker 1: there's this ghost that's in love with her and they're
Speaker 1: still calling him Donald, and he's starting to get violent
Speaker 1: now and he's trashing rooms in the house. Fires are
Speaker 1: breaking out taneously throughout the house, and at one point,
Speaker 1: even the dad, Wally, who's already been bitch slapped in
Speaker 1: the face by a glove, he gets burnt and had
Speaker 1: to go to the hospital at one point because of
Speaker 1: one of these fires. And even Granny old what was
Speaker 1: her name, Old Lady Hitchings, Yeah, old Mother Hitchings. At
Speaker 1: one point she almost gets pushed down the stairs because
Speaker 1: of Donald. So this paranormal investigator named Harold Chibbitt also
Speaker 1: known as chib he comes over and he becomes the
Speaker 1: main investigator on this case, and he helps the family
Speaker 1: to communicate with Donald by using little cards with alphabet
Speaker 1: letters on them, and they would have I guess they
Speaker 1: would have him tap. Donald would tap like is it
Speaker 1: a pe? And like, you know, if he would tap
Speaker 1: whenever they said the letter is it an out? Like whatever?
Speaker 1: So that that way, they were starting to be able
Speaker 1: to form sentences with them. And then they have this idea, Oh,
Speaker 1: let's take this room in the house that has a
Speaker 1: lock on it. We will put a pen and paper
Speaker 1: in there, and we're gonna lock it. And then chib
Speaker 1: takes the lock the key with him home so that
Speaker 1: nobody can get in there. Because people are suspecting at
Speaker 1: this point that it's probably maybe it's the girl doing
Speaker 1: all this stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: They would come back to the house and open up
Speaker 1: the door and there would sometimes be up to sixty
Speaker 1: to seventy notes that are written out no handwritten notes
Speaker 1: prolific sixty to seventy. First of all, if Donald lived today,
Speaker 1: Donald would be one of those people that sends a
Speaker 1: billion text messages when you're like, this should be an email.
Speaker 5: With Donald.
Speaker 4: Is on.
Speaker 1: Exactly a lot to say, I guess. So the notes
Speaker 1: saying yeah, all kinds of things, Okay. At one point
Speaker 1: it's telling Shirley how she needs to be wearing her hair. No,
Speaker 1: that's shady, right, I don't like that, Like you should
Speaker 1: get bangs, like you know what I mean, Like that's
Speaker 1: not I don't know though I did just get bangs
Speaker 1: and it solved a lotos.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 1: Yes, Donald, So there was at one point there was
Speaker 1: a note that was written specifically to Shirley, and it's
Speaker 1: it just said, Shirley, I come, I'm not touching that one.
Speaker 5: So Donald sounds like a toxic, you know, boyfriend, like
Speaker 5: the first boyfriend we all had, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't seem he doesn't seem emotionally mature. I
Speaker 1: mean he's pushing Ronnie's downstairs.
Speaker 5: Messing with the family, like, you know issues, trying to
Speaker 5: put Shirley down. He's trying to mess with her confidence.
Speaker 1: It's like a gang a little bit yeah, totally yeah,
Speaker 1: and a little bit gas lighting.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like I didn't do anything, it's it's the girl
Speaker 1: that's doing this, you know. So apparently there's this whole
Speaker 1: thing about this that I don't know how I feel
Speaker 1: about this part. But he identifies himself as Lewis Charles,
Speaker 1: who was the short lived Louis the seventeenth of France
Speaker 1: who was rumored to have escape captivity during the French Revolution.
Speaker 1: There's this whole story about did he die a prisoner
Speaker 1: at ten or there's like all this like historical mystery.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is like Marie Antoinette's son.
Speaker 6: That whenever they got taken at the end of Sophia
Speaker 6: Coppola's Marie Antoinette, Yeah, I just watched it.
Speaker 2: I know who this is.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. So Shirley ends up getting married in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty five and she, I know, she moves away, and
Speaker 1: I guess Donald starts to appear less in the house,
Speaker 1: and by nineteen sixty eight she's still getting messages outside
Speaker 1: of the house from her West Sussex home, so she's
Speaker 1: a distance away and she would I guess, leave out
Speaker 1: a note paper and a pen by her phone and
Speaker 1: she would sometimes see messages and her husband's just like,
Speaker 1: that's Shirley. I mean, that's just what comes with Shirley,
Speaker 1: is that there's just this ghost that writes things to her.
Speaker 1: And I guess there was one in nineteen sixty eight
Speaker 1: that said he was leaving. It's over and that was it.
Speaker 1: And there's also she did an interview not that long ago.
Speaker 1: She's like in her eighties now she's like just an old,
Speaker 1: nice grandma lady, and she said that she was at
Speaker 1: a farmer's market situation in the eighties and a psychic
Speaker 1: came up to her and was like, there's this little
Speaker 1: boy that's following you around, and so maybe that is
Speaker 1: a part of it. She doesn't know, who really knows,
Speaker 1: But like with any of this stuff, there's of course
Speaker 1: people speculating that it could be a hoax of some sort,
Speaker 1: and I think the main thing that people think is
Speaker 1: that it was her, But she says no, I believe her,
Speaker 1: And I guess, like, you know, there's things like the
Speaker 1: neighbors complaining because they're hearing all these sounds. There were
Speaker 1: so many witnesses to this activity that it seems like
Speaker 1: something was happening.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems like why would you also like just
Speaker 5: do this bit into your eighties.
Speaker 1: I've ever you'd really have to commit to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Admire it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: If it is If it is a bit, I'm not
Speaker 6: mad because I love this commitment to it. Then then
Speaker 6: I'm just like, Okay, well, then you're remarkable. Then you're
Speaker 6: like a really remarkable actor and performer, I mean.
Speaker 1: Or it just becomes a part of your personality or
Speaker 1: like I don't know, some people have the same hairstyle
Speaker 1: for sixty years. Maybe it's just like that's just you.
Speaker 6: Well, and I think that what because like the spooky
Speaker 6: stuff that I think I've experienced, I'm in my head,
Speaker 6: you know, and I've talked about it in my head.
Speaker 2: It's it's what I experienced.
Speaker 6: And memory is so weird in that way, right, And
Speaker 6: so it's like I have no idea of like I
Speaker 6: overblew it or as I've told the story, it's gotten bigger.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, that's my memory of it. So that's
Speaker 2: just what it is. And we can't we can't speculate
Speaker 2: that much further than that because.
Speaker 1: You know, well, and a lot of this was being
Speaker 1: documented at the time by at least the one professional
Speaker 1: chib so it was I mean, this lasted twelve years,
Speaker 1: so they were able to document it pretty well. I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's any video. I That's where I'm
Speaker 1: always kind of like, can't you get a camera out
Speaker 1: and just like tape all of this stuff, because especially
Speaker 1: back then, this is pre TikTok, it would be hard
Speaker 1: to show two slippers walking on their own.
Speaker 6: Right, Like it's hard to like do the special effects
Speaker 6: for that, you know, right, yeah, practical in camera effect.
Speaker 5: For me, it was the notes, like all those notes
Speaker 5: and it was locked and then you just open. Now,
Speaker 5: that's like the creepy Oh for sure.
Speaker 6: Like I don't want any I barely like normal text messages.
Speaker 6: I definitely don't want like a sort of eldritch message
Speaker 6: on a notepad that.
Speaker 1: Especially when it's like I have some notes, you're living
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 6: I do think that they had sort of like a
Speaker 6: five hundred Days of Summer reunion, maybe because like they
Speaker 6: broke up and like he's like, I'm done, I'm gone,
Speaker 6: and then she's just randomly at a farmer's market and
Speaker 6: then the psychic's like, there's a little boy following you.
Speaker 6: And I feel like they looked at each other and
Speaker 6: just sort of gave like a knowing glance. Yeah, They're like,
Speaker 6: we're not together anymore. We're not going to get back together.
Speaker 2: But it was fun. It was a fun time.
Speaker 1: You're just somebody that I use exactly somebody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then he follows some some other lady.
Speaker 1: Now squl oh the sequel Donald two squeak wal Hey
Speaker 1: you guys, can I show you a haunted doll?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I thought you'd never ask.
Speaker 5: Me.
Speaker 1: Of all people, I mean, all I do is show
Speaker 1: people haunted dolls I find on eBay. Okay, So here's
Speaker 1: a segment of the show I like to call I
Speaker 1: think I'm going to call it the Dolls are Living.
Speaker 1: So I go to eBay and I type in the
Speaker 1: words haunted doll. And how many are hundreds, if not
Speaker 1: thousands of these dolls? And the best part is that
Speaker 1: most of them come with their own biography, and they're
Speaker 1: usually written by whoever's selling it. Sometimes they're written by
Speaker 1: the doll allegedly. But I want to show you this doll,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to read you their biography, and if
Speaker 1: you're interested, I would be happy to buy it for
Speaker 1: you and send it to you. Okay, it is the
Speaker 1: doll here. What do you think of this? This doll?
Speaker 5: I mean somebody has cut her hair that somebody has
Speaker 5: not the original cut.
Speaker 2: For this.
Speaker 6: It's like a little we've got a little genderfuckery going
Speaker 6: on here that I think is really chic.
Speaker 1: Totally. She's got kind of a bowl cut, h pretty blunt.
Speaker 1: She's wearing a red Victorian kind of dress with balloon sleeves, velvet,
Speaker 1: some ruffles. You have to have ruffles if you want
Speaker 1: to be a haunted doll. I also always look at
Speaker 1: this like marketing. You're trying to sell yourself here, honey,
Speaker 1: you gotta have a bad haircut and you gotta have ruffles.
Speaker 5: It's sort of I mean this there should definitely be
Speaker 5: like you know, Tinder, but like for hanted dolls and
Speaker 5: you can swipe right or left.
Speaker 1: That's an eBay, you know. But like this growling this.
Speaker 5: This one she likes walks on the beach.
Speaker 1: It seems like, yes, we can't ignore that she's on
Speaker 1: the beach.
Speaker 6: I love this actually, like, yeah, she's on the beach,
Speaker 6: but she's not looking at the water like you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, She's looking looking for something back on
Speaker 6: the land right like she's.
Speaker 2: Looking for someone.
Speaker 5: Did they Does she have a backstory?
Speaker 1: Oh, you better believe she has a backstory. I was
Speaker 1: also going to point out she has no eyebrows, a
Speaker 1: very nude lip, and the world's smallest hands. She's gorgeous, Okay, speaking.
Speaker 2: Of the nude lip. Also, it's like the faintest smirk.
Speaker 2: It's it's like she's it's a thing. She knows everything,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like it's like I'm not scared right away, like I
Speaker 5: thought it was going to be like scary, but she
Speaker 5: seems she seems nice.
Speaker 1: Well, I think she's looking at you with that little smirk,
Speaker 1: going Okay, are they going to say something about my haircut?
Speaker 1: I really worked on this. Yeah, okay, So here's what
Speaker 1: we got here. Welcome to my auction, and thank you
Speaker 1: for looking. I'm for you, Clara. I have had Clara
Speaker 1: for many years now. She's from my private collection. Clara
Speaker 1: was a one room school teacher. She has a crazy
Speaker 1: sense of humor. I guess you would too, having to
Speaker 1: deal with children all day. That's what it says here.
Speaker 1: She was a teacher while walking this earth, and she
Speaker 1: still sees herself as a teacher in the spirit world.
Speaker 1: She will try to correct your grammar, spelling and speech. Lol.
Speaker 1: I usually laugh the whole time I communicate with her.
Speaker 1: I have to admit my spelling is terrible. She has
Speaker 1: no problem letting you know. I swear I spend more
Speaker 1: time correcting my spelling than communicating. Makes you feel like
Speaker 1: you're back in school again. No, thank you, but I
Speaker 1: have to tell you my spelling has much improved. She
Speaker 1: will communicate with she'll communicate what her day was like
Speaker 1: as a teacher. The name John, John and Mark come
Speaker 1: up frequently. I believe they were students of hers. She
Speaker 1: also has a very positive energy and outlook. She loves flowers.
Speaker 1: Her students would bring her flowers on special occasions. Her
Speaker 1: response to the flowers was, it makes my heart sing.
Speaker 1: She has a very peaceful soul. She's currently going for
Speaker 1: forty one dollars plus thirteen dollars and seventeen cents shipping.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that?
Speaker 5: See? I got good vibes from her. She seems like
Speaker 5: a peaceful soul.
Speaker 1: She seemed like one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but she wouldn't like me because I can't spell
Speaker 5: for shit. I think i'd frustrate her well.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that would probably get annoying. Plus, you don't
Speaker 1: lit by a beach and she might not be happy
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she loves the beach.
Speaker 1: To the to go to the beach in a long
Speaker 1: sleeve turtleneck dress. Is that's That's when you know you're
Speaker 1: an evil doll. I would say, I don't believe her.
Speaker 1: I think that she's evil. But what do you guys think?
Speaker 1: Would you like me to buy Clara for one of you?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna swipe which way do you swipe left?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna swipe left? Wait? Which one? Which way?
Speaker 6: Left?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna swipe right. I'm gonna swipe right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna swipe right too.
Speaker 2: I just don't think we have a lot in common.
Speaker 5: It's not a match. I mean the teacher stuff. We
Speaker 5: were teachers. But I feel like, if anything, I would
Speaker 5: donate her to a preschool if she wants to be
Speaker 5: in that, you know, environment.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be so scary.
Speaker 6: If you're like counting your kids before you like go
Speaker 6: outside and there's like one extra one and then you
Speaker 6: go back over it and it's Clara and she's standing
Speaker 6: with the other kids.
Speaker 1: She might be good for TikTok content.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, she's going viral.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, forty one dollars for me I get to save.
Speaker 1: Can I play you guys some ghost voices?
Speaker 3: Yes, it's time for EVPs or evase, So you guys
Speaker 3: have done this before.
Speaker 1: What I do is I go to YouTube and I
Speaker 1: find EVPs or electronic voice phenomenal and I have that
Speaker 1: These are you know, all real EVPs that ghost hunters
Speaker 1: or people have found and posted, and I'll play them
Speaker 1: for you, and I'll have you guess what you hear,
Speaker 1: and I'll give you some options of what the ghost
Speaker 1: hunter believes they heard the ghosts say.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: This first one was posted by Truth in Evidence TV
Speaker 1: on YouTube, and it was at Kelhoun Square in a
Speaker 1: very haunted place, Savannah, Georgia. What is this ghost saying?
Speaker 1: There's a lot of background noise, but there is a whisper.
Speaker 5: Yeah all right, mm yeah I heard it a little.
Speaker 1: And he guesses do you remember?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Or maybe maybe are you ready yet? I kind of
Speaker 2: got an are you like?
Speaker 1: Wait, let me hear it again. There's like an s shine. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me give you some options. Is that a show
Speaker 1: me your butt? Is it B show me April? Which
Speaker 1: I don't know what that? Maybe that's like they're on
Speaker 1: family feud, name a month, show me? Is it C
Speaker 1: surely you're tired, shade? Or is it D such a
Speaker 1: big meat ball? Okay, oh my god, here we go.
Speaker 1: It's one of those.
Speaker 2: I guess, show me your butt.
Speaker 1: I kind of hear that, Vanessa, what do you think?
Speaker 5: I hear?
Speaker 1: Surely you're tired, Surely you're tired.
Speaker 2: Surely show me your tired butt in April.
Speaker 1: They believe it's show me April, show me April. Oh,
Speaker 1: here we go. I don't know. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that would mean.
Speaker 5: But show me your butt. I heard more clearly this time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, okay, I me, yeah, okay, show me April's cute,
Speaker 6: April O'Neil.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's like a teenem Ninja Turtles moment.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's one more. This was posted by Ela Davis
Speaker 1: and it is at the Schoffner House, which is in Crestview, Florida.
Speaker 1: What's this one saying not saying gay? No, it actually
Speaker 1: is not saying gay. You're right, Okay, let me play
Speaker 1: it again.
Speaker 5: Pizza, I kinda hear that pizza.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, there's a couple of words. Let's do
Speaker 1: it again.
Speaker 6: Also here, you're a sluid A little bit could be
Speaker 6: you're a slug Pizza, You're a.
Speaker 2: I mean, I am, we are collectively.
Speaker 5: As a whole.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, here's some options. Okay, is it a oh
Speaker 1: Lisa's here.
Speaker 5: The coaster shady?
Speaker 2: Oh Lisa's here?
Speaker 1: B peace be with you? Is it c will you
Speaker 1: please sit down? Or is it d all this PC crap?
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like maybe it's like a fifty year old
Speaker 1: all this PC crap these days?
Speaker 2: Okay, Boomer, yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me play it again. What do you think?
Speaker 5: Oh, Lisa's here, let me hear it?
Speaker 2: Wait, do you do it one more time? It's either
Speaker 2: I feel like it's either Lisa's here or please sit down?
Speaker 1: It's see will you please sit down?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: I just love the idea of that, guys going, oh
Speaker 1: Lisa's here. Okay, it's will you please sit down? Let's
Speaker 1: see if we can hear that.
Speaker 2: That I hear the tea in the sit you know,
Speaker 2: I hear that that clipped tea? Right?
Speaker 5: Why did he was? Was the ghost gonna say like
Speaker 5: something revealing like you should sit down for this?
Speaker 2: Could sit down?
Speaker 6: I'm a ghost and I've been wanting to say something
Speaker 6: for a little while, and I think you should be
Speaker 6: sitting down.
Speaker 1: See. I was thinking of it more just like somebody
Speaker 1: complaining at a I don't know, at something where they're
Speaker 1: just like, will you please sit down? Like an airplane.
Speaker 2: Oh, the ghost is in the service industry for sure,
Speaker 2: and yeah, sir down.
Speaker 1: Please take your seat. We're about to take off. Yeah definitely. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: let's just do one more thing. Damn it. I did
Speaker 1: this with you guys last time, and I can't remember
Speaker 1: all the things that I asked you, I should have
Speaker 1: re listened to it, but we're just going to try
Speaker 1: it and see what happened. Okay, I'm just going to
Speaker 1: list some paranormal type phenomena and let's do it. I
Speaker 1: want to hear any thoughts you have, any maybe you've
Speaker 1: experienced it, I'm not sure. Let's talk about synchronicities. How
Speaker 1: do you guys feel about that?
Speaker 2: Can you.
Speaker 5: Sentence show me a bro.
Speaker 1: So synchronicities or like deja vu goes along with that,
Speaker 1: or just like too good to be true? Like how
Speaker 1: how would that have happened? I just thought that that
Speaker 1: was going to happen, and it did. I mean, does
Speaker 1: that kind of thing happen to you guys a lot?
Speaker 1: Or do you do you read into it as like WHOA,
Speaker 1: that's crazy or are you like whatever? Is this a
Speaker 1: coincidence or totally real?
Speaker 5: This happened to me recently where I was like, me
Speaker 5: and my boyfriend were out at a restaurant and he's like,
Speaker 5: I'm going to get this for the first time, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, you've already ordered that. We've been we had
Speaker 5: this conver we did this, you had it, and then
Speaker 5: we did come to the conclusion like it did happen before?
Speaker 5: He just has a bad memory, and I feel crazy
Speaker 5: where I'm like, no, we did I know this has
Speaker 5: happened before you ordered the meat bull sub And he's like.
Speaker 1: No, so was there a moment when you thought that
Speaker 1: this was some kind of like paranormal like I've already
Speaker 1: been here, I've done this, And then you're like, oh, wait,
Speaker 1: no I actually have but yeah.
Speaker 5: Where I'm like, wait, why would the universe want me
Speaker 5: to have this meatball sub again?
Speaker 1: Like if it was in a past life?
Speaker 2: See, I buy into it.
Speaker 6: I feel like I live in a near constant state
Speaker 6: of deja vu, like I ate so often for me
Speaker 6: and it to the degree that like I know sometimes
Speaker 6: what people are going to say next in a circumstance
Speaker 6: where we're and I'll be like I and I'm like oh,
Speaker 6: or like I'll almost sort of know like something that
Speaker 6: someone has in their purse or something, and it's not
Speaker 6: like it's not like psychic. I'm not like saying all
Speaker 6: the things that are in the purse, but I'm like oh,
Speaker 6: and then I remember you pull out this lipstick or
Speaker 6: something and they're like I have this lipstick, Like okay.
Speaker 1: Let's just do a test. Okay, I'm gonna hold this.
Speaker 1: Let's just see for fun. I have something in my
Speaker 1: hand right now. What do you think is in my hand?
Speaker 2: Come on, a pen?
Speaker 1: I do not have a pen in my hand. Okay,
Speaker 1: I have a mini stapler.
Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no, no no no no.
Speaker 1: Say that's what you were gonna say.
Speaker 6: Legit was gonna say stapler, and I was like, who
Speaker 6: the fuck has a stapler these days?
Speaker 5: Liar, no, no, swear to God.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, try it one more time.
Speaker 1: We're doing more. Go with your gut, Go with your gut,
Speaker 1: even if it sounds crazy. This is the one podcast
Speaker 1: where you can sound as crazy as you want and
Speaker 1: only some people will judge you on the internet. Okay, this,
Speaker 1: I have something in my hand. It's not going to
Speaker 1: throw you off like that. It's a more common thing.
Speaker 2: A pad of post it notes.
Speaker 1: Guessing you get three gases, you get three gasses. For
Speaker 1: some reason, I'm.
Speaker 2: Feeling paper like it's like a notepad or a notebook.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what was it?
Speaker 6: What was it?
Speaker 5: What was it?
Speaker 2: What was it?
Speaker 1: I am right next to my printer. It was my phone,
Speaker 1: I thought. Okay, so one together the stapler one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the stapler one is actually freaky to me because
Speaker 6: I was like, I think it's a stapler and then
Speaker 6: I was like, bitch who has a stapler?
Speaker 1: Like just like around but anyhow, very random any who
Speaker 1: Like it is.
Speaker 6: Like a feeling that like because it doesn't feel like
Speaker 6: I'm not It doesn't feel like a psychic thing. It
Speaker 6: just feels like I keep doing the same things over
Speaker 6: and over, like a little happy death day. But like
Speaker 6: I only catch it every once in a while and
Speaker 6: I'm like we've been here together, or like I'll clock
Speaker 6: when something's a little bit different, and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see yes, And that's why I always say I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm psychic, but not to the point where
Speaker 1: I could charge people. But because there's so many things
Speaker 1: that first of all, are not meaningful that I that
Speaker 1: I can pick up like it did, like it doesn't
Speaker 1: help anything that I could be like I have a
Speaker 1: feeling that you have something a staple in your hand,
Speaker 1: like what is that? It doesn't help anything at all?
Speaker 1: Really there's that. And also it only happens sometimes, it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen every time.
Speaker 5: And you can't give like a heads up on hurricanes
Speaker 5: or tornadoes.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, but I think that I think
Speaker 1: that there's like that. To me, it feels more real
Speaker 1: than being like, oh, I'm gonna pay someone to tell
Speaker 1: me exactly what's real right now in this very moment,
Speaker 1: I'm like, who could just pull that up, like access
Speaker 1: that skill right off the bat. I don't know.
Speaker 6: Well, I think some of this stuff, right, it's often
Speaker 6: based in like some kind of empathy. And if this,
Speaker 6: then what thinking? Because like whenever I do tarot readings
Speaker 6: and stuff like that, people are often like, oh, wow,
Speaker 6: you're really like hitting on some stuff and I'm like, no,
Speaker 6: you're hitting on some stuff. And I kind of am
Speaker 6: okay at reading people and like, you know, I like,
Speaker 6: there's there's a different thing going on, and is it paranormal?
Speaker 2: Maybe you're like.
Speaker 6: Connecting to some energy but it's not like psychic. Yeah,
Speaker 6: Like I don't know if I believe in full blown psychic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh so you read Taro. I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: I've started recently, Yeah, like in the past like two years.
Speaker 1: It's a lot to learn, it's too I want to,
Speaker 1: but I can't learn at all. But I believe in Taro.
Speaker 1: I very much think that taro is is legit ooh,
Speaker 1: because to me, it's like the cards are the ones
Speaker 1: that are saying the thing, right. I think there's people
Speaker 1: it's reflective, there's people that really good at interpreting it,
Speaker 1: and I think that, especially if you have like intuitive skills,
Speaker 1: you could do a really kind of psychic reading with them.
Speaker 1: But I think ultimately like the cards are going to
Speaker 1: tell you what the truth is or what the messages
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't. I just like it. I like it least
Speaker 2: you knit the story together.
Speaker 6: Like I feel like you knit the story because like,
Speaker 6: let's say you're doing a three card reading or something,
Speaker 6: and then you do your first card. You're going to
Speaker 6: clock with the person's responses to it a little bit,
Speaker 6: and then you want the first card and the second
Speaker 6: card to have some connective tissue and it is like speculative.
Speaker 6: But the cards are, you know, creating the framework, and
Speaker 6: then you're kind of adding stuff to it, and then
Speaker 6: the person's adding stuff to it. So it's a really
Speaker 6: collaborative I think experience of like, yeah.
Speaker 1: So psychic stuff. Have you guys been to psychic's?
Speaker 2: I've only ever had my like cards read, and I've
Speaker 2: had my palm read.
Speaker 1: How did that go?
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 6: Was like a girl at a party, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. Like, and this is when I wasn't like,
Speaker 6: I wasn't like living my full gay truth. So part
Speaker 6: of it was a little bit like I was like, oh,
Speaker 6: I think you're barking up the wrong tree because I
Speaker 6: think we're flirting.
Speaker 1: She was like, you're gay, like based on your palm,
Speaker 1: but you were.
Speaker 2: That's that's how I knew.
Speaker 1: She's all, let me read your palm. You're like, here
Speaker 1: you go. She's like, Okay, I'm real, that's what it's
Speaker 1: telling me.
Speaker 5: She's like, you're going home with me tonight, and You're like,
Speaker 5: I guess, yeah, I've I've never been to a psychic
Speaker 5: or had my tara read because my mom ruined it
Speaker 5: for me. She would do that when growing up, and
Speaker 5: I just remember she would always be upset afterwards. But
Speaker 5: I don't know who she was going to, but they
Speaker 5: were like telling her like this is going to happen,
Speaker 5: this is going to happen, and then she would get
Speaker 5: all like freaked out and like obsessed. And then I
Speaker 5: was like, I'm not doing that. I don't want to
Speaker 5: know never mind.
Speaker 1: But isn't your mom also like super Christian Catholic. Yeah, Catholic.
Speaker 5: Oh, and a hypocrite, as most most Mexican Catholic moms are.
Speaker 5: They're also into like witchy stuff, which I'm like, it
Speaker 5: goes against the whole thing, but they're like, no, this
Speaker 5: it's part of it.
Speaker 1: I think it is. I think it's all so much
Speaker 1: more similar than we like to think. I think that
Speaker 1: like formal religion puts people against each other or something,
Speaker 1: but I think there's like so much that is so similar.
Speaker 5: The spells and the Yeah. I feel like as Catholics,
Speaker 5: you know, every saint is like a different spell if
Speaker 5: you want like money or I remember we did a
Speaker 5: whole thing because we wanted my cousin she liked this
Speaker 5: guy and she wanted him to ask her to the
Speaker 5: middle school dance. So we did like a thing with
Speaker 5: a saint and the picture of the boy, and we
Speaker 5: did a whole.
Speaker 1: Spell that's totally spell work.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I meaning he didn't ask her, but we we
Speaker 5: truly attempted.
Speaker 1: What do you say, we what do we what do
Speaker 1: you mean a little cousin?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was me, my aunt, my cousin and my
Speaker 5: mom and we were like, okay, we need a picture
Speaker 5: of this boy. And we put it in a cup
Speaker 5: of water upside down. It was like the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is full of witchery, practical magic.
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean I feel like it was just more
Speaker 5: bonding for us. But the guy didn't that never manifested.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that though.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, what do.
Speaker 1: You guys think of Let's see here. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I asked you guys this before, but let's see
Speaker 1: time travel. Oh, like speaking a tik speaking of TikTok,
Speaker 1: you TikTok. You will see videos where it's like this
Speaker 1: person time traveled based on this photo from nineteen twenty one,
Speaker 1: and then you'll just see like somebody within the background
Speaker 1: with like a cell phone just like talking like totally
Speaker 1: edited in, or or it's like they're holding up I
Speaker 1: don't know, like a bandage to their ear that they
Speaker 1: lost in a war or something like. It's like not
Speaker 1: it's not as I've seen those. Yeah, but do you
Speaker 1: think that that's possible?
Speaker 2: No? I think I don't think.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean no, But like as far as like
Speaker 6: the theory in and around it, and like the idea
Speaker 6: of like I don't know, like different things like string
Speaker 6: theory and like universe stuff and in the multiverse and
Speaker 6: different things like that. I believe in that more than
Speaker 6: I think that we've ever time traveled or like that
Speaker 6: we've ever encountered that. But I believe that the texture
Speaker 6: of all of this is way more porous and weird
Speaker 6: and not linear than we think it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's got to be like other dimensions
Speaker 5: for sure, like when when the gummy hits real hard,
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm seeing other dimensions for sure. But as
Speaker 5: far as time travel, I'm like, yeah, like back to
Speaker 5: the future, I wish hard. Yeah, I think that would
Speaker 5: be fun.
Speaker 2: I just think that we would have fucked shit up more.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and like, okay, this is the version of time
Speaker 6: travel because of the multiverse stuff and whatnot that I
Speaker 6: would believe, and this is a little x men E
Speaker 6: and whatnot. I think that there's like the thing where
Speaker 6: it's like, you know, I'm gonna eat this sandwich, and
Speaker 6: it's like do you eat the sandwich? Do you not
Speaker 6: eat the sandwich? Like choose your own adventure book, and
Speaker 6: then that creates to every decision you make creates two
Speaker 6: different universes. There's the universe where Vanessa eat a sandwich.
Speaker 6: And there's the universe like sliding doors with Gwyneth Paltrow
Speaker 6: have two different absolutely And I think that that's kind
Speaker 6: of true. Like I think that there are like fractals,
Speaker 6: and I think that that actually ties into the deja
Speaker 6: vous a little bit where they think there's like everything
Speaker 6: you do, there's a version of the universe where you
Speaker 6: didn't do it.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you there's no version or universe where
Speaker 5: Vanessa doesn't eat a sandwich.
Speaker 2: There's the Hungry Vanessa timeline.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, she loves sandwiches, and in.
Speaker 2: This timeline you have an eyepatch. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, who could say anytime there's been horrible
Speaker 1: things or whatever that have happened in the world, Like
Speaker 1: what if it was somebody went back in time and
Speaker 1: ate a sandwich right before that happened, or we don't
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, true, what a.
Speaker 1: Fun thing to think about. Well, you guys, I think
Speaker 1: that's about it. I think we did another podcast together.
Speaker 2: We did it. This is the best one yet.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a pretty good one. I'm going
Speaker 1: to help to vote now if you think that this
Speaker 1: is the best one, can you tell people where to
Speaker 1: find you and and listen to your podcast and all
Speaker 1: that stuff.
Speaker 6: Absolutely. Yeah, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram
Speaker 6: under Michael Folk. And then for our podcast, it's I'm
Speaker 6: Not Busy Podcast. I'm Not Busy on Spotify and Stitcher
Speaker 6: and Apple Podcasts and all that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm Vanessa g Comedy on Instagram and Twitter,
Speaker 5: and yeah, when I'm not busy I call Michael and
Speaker 5: we talk about dumb stuff.
Speaker 2: We got some great episodes coming up in the can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I highly recommend it. And I last time you
Speaker 1: guys were on, if people sent me messages, tell me
Speaker 1: how funny you guys are. Another listen to the podcast
Speaker 1: and I highly endorse. I find you guys so funny.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this was fun.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Michael Vanessa. Go back and
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