1 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: What's that ad? 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: It's spooky jooky. 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm reretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I'm goosted. 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: I days. 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 4: Pa, Hey boo, it's me Roz. We got some return 7 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 4: favorites on the pod today. 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 5: I don't know when it was. 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: At some point, was it two years ago, was it 10 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: one year ago, I'm not sure, but at some point 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: I had on Vanessa and Michael from the podcast I'm 12 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: Not Busy, and people loved them. They're so funny. I'm 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: obsessed with them. You should go listen to their podcast. 14 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: I actually did an episode. They don't often have guests, 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: but one time I was on their podcast and we 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: just we laughed so much together. And they're just such 17 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: good energy, both of them. I just really I really 18 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: like them, and go back and listen when they were 19 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: on this show, because on that when they share their 20 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: experiences and their stories and their beliefs and all of that. 21 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 1: And today we're doing more the newer format that I've 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: been doing a lot lately, and we're going to be 23 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: looking into the Battersea Poultergeist, which is a famous Poultergeist 24 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: case that I knew a bit about. There's a really 25 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: successful podcast that covered it, and I just learned that 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: it's going to be a TV show. I believe, a 27 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: scripted TV show that's based on it, produced by Blumhouse 28 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: that will be on Peacock, So look out for that. 29 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: But Michael and Vanessa, they're so funny. Michael I've met 30 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: through listen to their podcast, Michael's Besties with Vanessa, and 31 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: I've known Vanessa for a couple of years. We used 32 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: to do shows together and she uh oh, she's been 33 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: blowing up. She was named one of Variety's Comedians to 34 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: Watch of twenty twenty two. She's also been opening for 35 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: Chelsea Handler, touring around doing that. And the two of 36 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: them together are Michael and Vanessa. They're they're just they're 37 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: so great. So you're gonna enjoy this, I hope. If 38 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: you're not, don't tell me no, you will anyway. Typical 39 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: stuff Patreon link in the description. Full episodes and videos 40 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: on there, and yeah, let's just do it. Here's Michael 41 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: and Vanessa from the podcast I'm not busy on with 42 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: the show, you guys. Vanessa and Michael are back. Hello, 43 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: how are you guys? 44 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, so good now that we're talking to you. 45 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 5: I miss you. 46 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: I miss you too well. I always listen to your podcast, 47 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: so it's like that weird thing of like, oh, I 48 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: feel like I'm talking to you guys, but you don't 49 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: like I can't talk to you. I just listen to 50 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 1: you guys talking to me. And you know, I'm such 51 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: a fan, and you guys were recently talking about witches 52 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: and every once in a while you get a little 53 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: spooky on the show, which I always appreciate. 54 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, we like it. 55 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: I like the spookies. 56 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, Michael Moore, I'm still you know, I'm a scaredy cat, 57 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 5: but I feel like I've been trying to be brave. 58 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: Well, you've been traveling. I see you opening for Chelsea Handler. 59 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: Are you going to any haunted theaters or any haunted hotels? 60 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 5: Literally, like every theater we do, I'm always like is 61 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 5: it haunted? And they're like, yeah, yeah, for sure. 62 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: I mean. 63 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: Did they tell you like the story of the woman 64 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: in white that everyone sees on the stage. 65 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 5: No, I'm always like, is it I think that's Chelsea, 66 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 5: that's the ghost. But yeah, I anytime they're like it's haunted, Yeah, 67 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 5: I feel like it's always kind of a similar thing 68 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 5: where they're just like, yeah, we hear like woo's or groans, 69 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 5: and I'm like, okay, just standing back there. Also, who 70 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 5: knows I may be talking to a ghost when this happens. 71 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: Oh my god. They're just like if people are growning 72 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: during your acts, it's don't worry, it's just a ghost. 73 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 5: The staff is fucking. 74 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 6: That's a good cover up. You're just like, oh, that 75 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 6: that sound you hear ghosts, don't worry about it. Don't 76 00:04:59,520 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 6: worry about it. 77 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: Literally, I have been thinking about that so much lately. 78 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: I've been getting more skeptical of paranormal stuff in a 79 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: way that I think is healthy, and I think it's 80 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: good for the paranormal world. I'm not like a full 81 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: on non believer, but there's so many stories that I've 82 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: been encountering lately where I'm like, could that just have 83 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: been somebody that was in a place that they shouldn't 84 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: have been and then they blamed it on a ghost 85 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: or were they talking shit? And they were like, no, 86 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't me, it was a ghost maker. Like I 87 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: was just reading one where a ghost in this house 88 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: was like mimicking people's voices and so they would be like, oh, 89 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: I just heard Vanessa in the other room talking shit 90 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: and then they go in there and there's like nobody 91 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: there or whatever. But I'm like, it could have just 92 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: been Vanessa and they're talking shit. Yeah. I mean she's like, no, 93 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: it's a ghost. They swear it wasn't me. 94 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 5: That sounds very me blame it on a ghost, which 95 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,119 Speaker 5: I I just love the idea. Of course, in twenty 96 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 5: twenty two, we're blaming ghosts now. 97 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 6: I mean that's part style, right, Like it's like you 98 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 6: blame the dog about the fart, but it's like, now 99 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 6: we do it with ghosts totally. 100 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 5: You know why there's inflation ghosts? 101 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: Oh? 102 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, gas prices, ghost ghosts, all of that. You 103 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: were talking Vanessa recently about pulling out the egg. Oh yeah, 104 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: which is funny because that's the thing that I've heard 105 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: from my family as well. Can you explain this the egg? 106 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 5: Okay? I recently pulled out the egg on one of 107 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 5: my friends, Roxy because she thought she got the evil eye. 108 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 5: So I was like, I got this. It was my 109 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 5: first I'm performing the egg ritual. So we got an 110 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 5: egg and as I like rubbed it on her, I 111 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 5: said like a prayer to like release the negativity from her. 112 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 5: I don't know if I did it right, but that's 113 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 5: what my mom would do, was like if you got 114 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 5: like the evil eye, a hole, or a fever, they 115 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 5: rub you with an egg and then you crack it 116 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 5: in a cup with water, and some people put it 117 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 5: under the bed, but my mom would put it by 118 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 5: a window because she said God could see it from 119 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 5: the window, and then sucks up either negative spirits or 120 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 5: illness from the egg. 121 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: It goes into the egg. Yeah, I remember my dad 122 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: telling me that that's what his mother would do, like 123 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: put it under the bed in a bowl, and like 124 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: if it cooked, then then the it's an evil egg. 125 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: The devil is inside of that egg. I might still 126 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: eat it. I'm not gonna lie. That's a deviled egg. 127 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: Put it under the bed. 128 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 6: And then if it's got like sort of like a 129 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 6: little dollup of like a mustardy yolk on top of 130 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 6: it and some paprika, it's a deviled egg. 131 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: Yes, oh my god, I never thought about it that way. 132 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean people are giving me side eye 133 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: every time I walk down the street. I'm probably filled. 134 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: I match if I rubbed a couple of eggs on me. 135 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: Right now, we could have a full fill one of 136 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: those deviled egg trays. 137 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: Oh it's a plucky. 138 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: Next time I get invited to something like that, I'm 139 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: gonna get a dozen eggs. Just do one of these 140 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: all over my body. 141 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 6: She is feeding the neighborhood exactly all the evil eye. 142 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: I hope y'all hungry. 143 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 6: You know, my new favorite zone for poky stuff right 144 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 6: now is TikTok. I love spooky TikTok. I get on 145 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 6: there at like two in the morning when I can't sleep, 146 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 6: and it's all bullshit, but I love it. 147 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: I watched like some of the scariest shit on there. 148 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I have the hardest time again with the skepticism. 149 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 5: It is. 150 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: People are so good at faking things now, and you could, like, 151 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: people like kids these days know how to make a 152 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: full on Marvel movie on the damn computer. So how 153 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: am I supposed to know what is real and what 154 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: isn't y'all? 155 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: And I watched this one. 156 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 6: Oh sorry, go ahead, Oh absolutely, no, no, no no. 157 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 6: I watched this one like last night, literally last night. 158 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 6: And so this woman, this like young blonde woman is like, okay, 159 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 6: I'm babysitting and like, look at this crazy thing. 160 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: I found and it is a doll. 161 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 6: Maybe of like a child, with its face up against 162 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 6: the wall, like like layer witch style kind of and 163 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 6: it's up against the wall and in the doll's pocket 164 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 6: it has like a bell on it. 165 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 2: And she's like, this is so weird? Is this like 166 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 2: real hair? And what the hell is this? 167 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 6: And then she keeps going and it's kind of a 168 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 6: long TikTok and then every once in a while, while 169 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 6: she's doing something else, you see the doll like reflected 170 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 6: in a mirror, running behind her. So they're like employing children, 171 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 6: like there are child actors involved in this or oh, 172 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 6: but it was it was messing me up because like 173 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 6: little kid ghosts. 174 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: Shit. There was a Poulter geist that was all in 175 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: the papers in England. And did you guys see The 176 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: Conjuring two? 177 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just one. 178 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: The Conjuring two is based on this famous poultergeist in 179 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: England called the Enfield polter Geist. This is not that, 180 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: this is even before miss Enfield poulter Geist. This is 181 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: the batter see Poulter Guys, have you ever heard of it? Okay, well, 182 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: here we go storytime, and please interject if you have 183 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: anything to say, As I read you my research. So 184 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: this is a long story. It took place over twelve 185 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: years in this house, and so this is kind of 186 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: the main bullet points. But it started in nineteen fifty six. 187 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: There was this Victorian house in Battersea, London, and it's 188 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: the Hitchings family. We're talking about Wally Hitchings, his wife Kitty, 189 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: Grandma Ethel who was also known as old Mother Hitchings Nice, 190 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: and her adopted son named John, who at the time 191 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: was in his twenties. And then there's the lead of 192 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: the story, who is named Shirley. And Shirley oh yeah, 193 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: this is back when Shirley was the name of a 194 00:11:54,679 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: fifteen year old. She was gifteen at the time. I 195 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: know at the time. I'm sure Shirley was like the 196 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: McKenna of the time. So she's in her bad sleeping 197 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: and she notices under her pillow a silver key, just 198 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: like a random silver key that came from nowhere. I 199 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe the two fairies drunk again, I don't 200 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: know what's going on, but somebody left a key underneath 201 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: her pillow, and so she brings it to her dad. 202 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: Her dad puts it in every hole in the house, and. 203 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 5: You gotta try every hole you gotta. 204 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: It's nothing. It doesn't fit into any of these holes 205 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: around this house. 206 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: Okay. 207 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: So that same night they're here in bangs throughout the 208 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: house and walls are shaking to the point where the 209 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: neighbors are complaining. And actually, Shirley said in an interview 210 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: much later, she said, it sounded like it was coming 211 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: from the bowels of the earth. It was just banging. 212 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: So this goes on for weeks, this kind of thing, 213 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: and they start to hear scratching sounds coming from like 214 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: within their furniture, kind of a claw like scratching. I 215 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: can't really imagine what that sounds like, but that's what 216 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: it says. And they call the cops, they call reporters, photographers. 217 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: No one can figure it out. So they're like, Okay, 218 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: I guess this is the only logical explanation would be 219 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: a Poulter guys kill. 220 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 2: This house is filthy. 221 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 5: What about pest control? 222 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: What if it's just like, you know, family banging the 223 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: house like from the mouthl nature, Nature's boss. 224 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's probably not ratituy. At that point, 225 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 6: you know what I mean, You're probably dealing with something 226 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 6: a little bigger. 227 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly so, and again they're having like reporters and 228 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: people there and they're like, this is something, but we 229 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,599 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. But just wait, because it 230 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: starts to get crazy. You haven't heard anything yet. So 231 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: they start to name this entity Donald after Donald Duck. 232 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: This entity is not wearing pants. This entity is I'm 233 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: assuming want a top top on, bottoms off. 234 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: That's what one could only assume. But they mainly I 235 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: think they named him that because it seemed like it 236 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: was a grumpy ghost. But as time goes on, a 237 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: bunch of witnesses are saying that they see bed sheets 238 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: flying off of beds, they see slippers walking around on 239 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: their own. No, they see clocks floating through the air. 240 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: Pots and pants are being thrown across rooms, and there's 241 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: chairs moving around the house. And actually I loved this one. 242 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: One of Shirley's gloves was on the ground. It flies 243 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: up and slaps the dead in the face. Yes, yes, 244 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: it did. 245 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 5: The gloves with the drama. 246 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: And I'm just picturing it flying and then it stops 247 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: right before it gets to the face and then just yes, yes, 248 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: So Donald is obsessed with Shirley, and it's really centering 249 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: around her. And it's going It's to the point where 250 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: it's kind of following her to work. 251 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 2: She was working. 252 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: She's fifteen, but she's working as a seamstress. She's starting 253 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: to become known as the Poultergeist girl because she's there's 254 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: always stuff happening with hers. There's sounds that are being heard, 255 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: things are going missing, like she's They're like, oh, the 256 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: polter Guys girl, And it's like kind of ruining her life. 257 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: She's like losing friends and apparently she actually lost her 258 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: job because of this at one point. 259 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: That's discrimination, Yeah, that's discrimination, is I mean. 260 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you she should That's a thing like you should 261 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: be able to if you have a ghost attached to you, 262 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: you should still be able to work. 263 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 5: I think it's like nobody can help that, not really. 264 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean, well, they tried to get some help. I'll 265 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: tell you about that in a second. They there was 266 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: a night where she was laying in bed and her 267 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: sheets are getting pulled off, which I hate is annoying, 268 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, Oh, it's the worst when that happens. But 269 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: she's doing like a full on tug of war in 270 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: the sheets and then allegedly her body goes stiff and 271 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: she starts levitating. Is that Is that a du alipa song? 272 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: Is that what the song is about? So the press 273 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: is going crazy and they're kind of playing it like 274 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: there's this ghost that's in love with her and they're 275 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: still calling him Donald, and he's starting to get violent 276 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: now and he's trashing rooms in the house. Fires are 277 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: breaking out taneously throughout the house, and at one point, 278 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: even the dad, Wally, who's already been bitch slapped in 279 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: the face by a glove, he gets burnt and had 280 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: to go to the hospital at one point because of 281 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: one of these fires. And even Granny old what was 282 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: her name, Old Lady Hitchings, Yeah, old Mother Hitchings. At 283 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: one point she almost gets pushed down the stairs because 284 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: of Donald. So this paranormal investigator named Harold Chibbitt also 285 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: known as chib he comes over and he becomes the 286 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: main investigator on this case, and he helps the family 287 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: to communicate with Donald by using little cards with alphabet 288 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: letters on them, and they would have I guess they 289 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: would have him tap. Donald would tap like is it 290 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: a pe? And like, you know, if he would tap 291 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: whenever they said the letter is it an out? Like whatever? 292 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: So that that way, they were starting to be able 293 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: to form sentences with them. And then they have this idea, Oh, 294 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: let's take this room in the house that has a 295 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: lock on it. We will put a pen and paper 296 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: in there, and we're gonna lock it. And then chib 297 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: takes the lock the key with him home so that 298 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,959 Speaker 1: nobody can get in there. Because people are suspecting at 299 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: this point that it's probably maybe it's the girl doing 300 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: all this stuff. 301 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, but. 302 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: They would come back to the house and open up 303 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 1: the door and there would sometimes be up to sixty 304 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: to seventy notes that are written out no handwritten notes 305 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: prolific sixty to seventy. First of all, if Donald lived today, 306 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: Donald would be one of those people that sends a 307 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: billion text messages when you're like, this should be an email. 308 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 5: With Donald. 309 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 4: Is on. 310 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: Exactly a lot to say, I guess. So the notes 311 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: saying yeah, all kinds of things, Okay. At one point 312 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: it's telling Shirley how she needs to be wearing her hair. No, 313 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: that's shady, right, I don't like that, Like you should 314 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: get bangs, like you know what I mean, Like that's 315 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: not I don't know though I did just get bangs 316 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: and it solved a lotos. 317 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 4: That. 318 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: Yes, Donald, So there was at one point there was 319 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: a note that was written specifically to Shirley, and it's 320 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: it just said, Shirley, I come, I'm not touching that one. 321 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 5: So Donald sounds like a toxic, you know, boyfriend, like 322 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 5: the first boyfriend we all had, you know. 323 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, he doesn't seem he doesn't seem emotionally mature. I 324 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: mean he's pushing Ronnie's downstairs. 325 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 5: Messing with the family, like, you know issues, trying to 326 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 5: put Shirley down. He's trying to mess with her confidence. 327 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: It's like a gang a little bit yeah, totally yeah, 328 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: and a little bit gas lighting. 329 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 5: You know. 330 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: It's like I didn't do anything, it's it's the girl 331 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: that's doing this, you know. So apparently there's this whole 332 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: thing about this that I don't know how I feel 333 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: about this part. But he identifies himself as Lewis Charles, 334 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: who was the short lived Louis the seventeenth of France 335 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: who was rumored to have escape captivity during the French Revolution. 336 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: There's this whole story about did he die a prisoner 337 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: at ten or there's like all this like historical mystery. 338 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: Oh, this is like Marie Antoinette's son. 339 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 6: That whenever they got taken at the end of Sophia 340 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 6: Coppola's Marie Antoinette, Yeah, I just watched it. 341 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: I know who this is. 342 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. So Shirley ends up getting married in nineteen 343 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: sixty five and she, I know, she moves away, and 344 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: I guess Donald starts to appear less in the house, 345 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: and by nineteen sixty eight she's still getting messages outside 346 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: of the house from her West Sussex home, so she's 347 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: a distance away and she would I guess, leave out 348 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: a note paper and a pen by her phone and 349 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: she would sometimes see messages and her husband's just like, 350 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: that's Shirley. I mean, that's just what comes with Shirley, 351 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: is that there's just this ghost that writes things to her. 352 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: And I guess there was one in nineteen sixty eight 353 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: that said he was leaving. It's over and that was it. 354 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: And there's also she did an interview not that long ago. 355 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: She's like in her eighties now she's like just an old, 356 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: nice grandma lady, and she said that she was at 357 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: a farmer's market situation in the eighties and a psychic 358 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: came up to her and was like, there's this little 359 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: boy that's following you around, and so maybe that is 360 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: a part of it. She doesn't know, who really knows, 361 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: But like with any of this stuff, there's of course 362 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: people speculating that it could be a hoax of some sort, 363 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: and I think the main thing that people think is 364 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: that it was her, But she says no, I believe her, 365 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: And I guess, like, you know, there's things like the 366 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: neighbors complaining because they're hearing all these sounds. There were 367 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: so many witnesses to this activity that it seems like 368 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: something was happening. 369 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems like why would you also like just 370 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 5: do this bit into your eighties. 371 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: I've ever you'd really have to commit to it. 372 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, I. 373 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: Admire it, you know what I mean. 374 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 6: If it is If it is a bit, I'm not 375 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 6: mad because I love this commitment to it. Then then 376 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 6: I'm just like, Okay, well, then you're remarkable. Then you're 377 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 6: like a really remarkable actor and performer, I mean. 378 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: Or it just becomes a part of your personality or 379 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: like I don't know, some people have the same hairstyle 380 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: for sixty years. Maybe it's just like that's just you. 381 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 6: Well, and I think that what because like the spooky 382 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 6: stuff that I think I've experienced, I'm in my head, 383 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 6: you know, and I've talked about it in my head. 384 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: It's it's what I experienced. 385 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 6: And memory is so weird in that way, right, And 386 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 6: so it's like I have no idea of like I 387 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 6: overblew it or as I've told the story, it's gotten bigger. 388 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: But I'm like, that's my memory of it. So that's 389 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 2: just what it is. And we can't we can't speculate 390 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: that much further than that because. 391 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: You know, well, and a lot of this was being 392 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: documented at the time by at least the one professional 393 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: chib so it was I mean, this lasted twelve years, 394 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: so they were able to document it pretty well. I 395 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: don't know if there's any video. I That's where I'm 396 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: always kind of like, can't you get a camera out 397 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: and just like tape all of this stuff, because especially 398 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: back then, this is pre TikTok, it would be hard 399 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: to show two slippers walking on their own. 400 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 6: Right, Like it's hard to like do the special effects 401 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 6: for that, you know, right, yeah, practical in camera effect. 402 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 5: For me, it was the notes, like all those notes 403 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 5: and it was locked and then you just open. Now, 404 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 5: that's like the creepy Oh for sure. 405 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 6: Like I don't want any I barely like normal text messages. 406 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 6: I definitely don't want like a sort of eldritch message 407 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 6: on a notepad that. 408 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: Especially when it's like I have some notes, you're living 409 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: your life. 410 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 6: I do think that they had sort of like a 411 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 6: five hundred Days of Summer reunion, maybe because like they 412 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 6: broke up and like he's like, I'm done, I'm gone, 413 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 6: and then she's just randomly at a farmer's market and 414 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 6: then the psychic's like, there's a little boy following you. 415 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 6: And I feel like they looked at each other and 416 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 6: just sort of gave like a knowing glance. Yeah, They're like, 417 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 6: we're not together anymore. We're not going to get back together. 418 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 2: But it was fun. It was a fun time. 419 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: You're just somebody that I use exactly somebody. 420 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then he follows some some other lady. 421 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: Now squl oh the sequel Donald two squeak wal Hey 422 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: you guys, can I show you a haunted doll? 423 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 5: Yeah? 424 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 2: I thought you'd never ask. 425 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 5: Me. 426 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: Of all people, I mean, all I do is show 427 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: people haunted dolls I find on eBay. Okay, So here's 428 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: a segment of the show I like to call I 429 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: think I'm going to call it the Dolls are Living. 430 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: So I go to eBay and I type in the 431 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: words haunted doll. And how many are hundreds, if not 432 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: thousands of these dolls? And the best part is that 433 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: most of them come with their own biography, and they're 434 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: usually written by whoever's selling it. Sometimes they're written by 435 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: the doll allegedly. But I want to show you this doll, 436 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,239 Speaker 1: and I'm going to read you their biography, and if 437 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: you're interested, I would be happy to buy it for 438 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: you and send it to you. Okay, it is the 439 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: doll here. What do you think of this? This doll? 440 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 5: I mean somebody has cut her hair that somebody has 441 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 5: not the original cut. 442 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: For this. 443 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 6: It's like a little we've got a little genderfuckery going 444 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 6: on here that I think is really chic. 445 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: Totally. She's got kind of a bowl cut, h pretty blunt. 446 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: She's wearing a red Victorian kind of dress with balloon sleeves, velvet, 447 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: some ruffles. You have to have ruffles if you want 448 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: to be a haunted doll. I also always look at 449 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: this like marketing. You're trying to sell yourself here, honey, 450 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: you gotta have a bad haircut and you gotta have ruffles. 451 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 5: It's sort of I mean this there should definitely be 452 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 5: like you know, Tinder, but like for hanted dolls and 453 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 5: you can swipe right or left. 454 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: That's an eBay, you know. But like this growling this. 455 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 5: This one she likes walks on the beach. 456 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: It seems like, yes, we can't ignore that she's on 457 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: the beach. 458 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 6: I love this actually, like, yeah, she's on the beach, 459 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 6: but she's not looking at the water like you know 460 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 6: what I mean, She's looking looking for something back on 461 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 6: the land right like she's. 462 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: Looking for someone. 463 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 5: Did they Does she have a backstory? 464 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: Oh, you better believe she has a backstory. I was 465 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: also going to point out she has no eyebrows, a 466 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: very nude lip, and the world's smallest hands. She's gorgeous, Okay, speaking. 467 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 2: Of the nude lip. Also, it's like the faintest smirk. 468 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: It's it's like she's it's a thing. She knows everything, 469 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 470 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 5: Like it's like I'm not scared right away, like I 471 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 5: thought it was going to be like scary, but she 472 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 5: seems she seems nice. 473 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: Well, I think she's looking at you with that little smirk, 474 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: going Okay, are they going to say something about my haircut? 475 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: I really worked on this. Yeah, okay, So here's what 476 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: we got here. Welcome to my auction, and thank you 477 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: for looking. I'm for you, Clara. I have had Clara 478 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: for many years now. She's from my private collection. Clara 479 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: was a one room school teacher. She has a crazy 480 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: sense of humor. I guess you would too, having to 481 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: deal with children all day. That's what it says here. 482 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: She was a teacher while walking this earth, and she 483 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: still sees herself as a teacher in the spirit world. 484 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: She will try to correct your grammar, spelling and speech. Lol. 485 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: I usually laugh the whole time I communicate with her. 486 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,239 Speaker 1: I have to admit my spelling is terrible. She has 487 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: no problem letting you know. I swear I spend more 488 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: time correcting my spelling than communicating. Makes you feel like 489 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: you're back in school again. No, thank you, but I 490 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: have to tell you my spelling has much improved. She 491 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: will communicate with she'll communicate what her day was like 492 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: as a teacher. The name John, John and Mark come 493 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: up frequently. I believe they were students of hers. She 494 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: also has a very positive energy and outlook. She loves flowers. 495 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: Her students would bring her flowers on special occasions. Her 496 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: response to the flowers was, it makes my heart sing. 497 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: She has a very peaceful soul. She's currently going for 498 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: forty one dollars plus thirteen dollars and seventeen cents shipping. 499 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? 500 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 5: See? I got good vibes from her. She seems like 501 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 5: a peaceful soul. 502 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: She seemed like one. 503 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, but she wouldn't like me because I can't spell 504 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 5: for shit. I think i'd frustrate her well. 505 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, that would probably get annoying. Plus, you don't 506 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: lit by a beach and she might not be happy 507 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: about it. 508 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, she loves the beach. 509 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: To the to go to the beach in a long 510 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: sleeve turtleneck dress. Is that's That's when you know you're 511 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: an evil doll. I would say, I don't believe her. 512 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: I think that she's evil. But what do you guys think? 513 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: Would you like me to buy Clara for one of you? 514 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna swipe which way do you swipe left? 515 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 4: Right? 516 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna swipe left? Wait? Which one? Which way? 517 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 6: Left? 518 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 5: Yes? 519 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: I'm gonna swipe right. I'm gonna swipe right. 520 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna swipe right too. 521 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: I just don't think we have a lot in common. 522 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 5: It's not a match. I mean the teacher stuff. We 523 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 5: were teachers. But I feel like, if anything, I would 524 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 5: donate her to a preschool if she wants to be 525 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 5: in that, you know, environment. 526 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: Wouldn't be so scary. 527 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 6: If you're like counting your kids before you like go 528 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 6: outside and there's like one extra one and then you 529 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 6: go back over it and it's Clara and she's standing 530 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 6: with the other kids. 531 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: She might be good for TikTok content. 532 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, she's going viral. 533 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: Okay, well, forty one dollars for me I get to save. 534 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: Can I play you guys some ghost voices? 535 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 3: Yes, it's time for EVPs or evase, So you guys 536 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 3: have done this before. 537 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: What I do is I go to YouTube and I 538 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: find EVPs or electronic voice phenomenal and I have that 539 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: These are you know, all real EVPs that ghost hunters 540 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: or people have found and posted, and I'll play them 541 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: for you, and I'll have you guess what you hear, 542 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: and I'll give you some options of what the ghost 543 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: hunter believes they heard the ghosts say. 544 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: So. 545 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: This first one was posted by Truth in Evidence TV 546 00:32:54,320 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: on YouTube, and it was at Kelhoun Square in a 547 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: very haunted place, Savannah, Georgia. What is this ghost saying? 548 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot of background noise, but there is a whisper. 549 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 5: Yeah all right, mm yeah I heard it a little. 550 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: And he guesses do you remember? 551 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 5: Yeah? 552 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: Or maybe maybe are you ready yet? I kind of 553 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: got an are you like? 554 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: Wait, let me hear it again. There's like an s shine. Okay, 555 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: let me give you some options. Is that a show 556 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: me your butt? Is it B show me April? Which 557 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what that? Maybe that's like they're on 558 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: family feud, name a month, show me? Is it C 559 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: surely you're tired, shade? Or is it D such a 560 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: big meat ball? Okay, oh my god, here we go. 561 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: It's one of those. 562 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 2: I guess, show me your butt. 563 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: I kind of hear that, Vanessa, what do you think? 564 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 5: I hear? 565 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 1: Surely you're tired, Surely you're tired. 566 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: Surely show me your tired butt in April. 567 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: They believe it's show me April, show me April. Oh, 568 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: here we go. I don't know. I don't know what 569 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: that would mean. 570 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 5: But show me your butt. I heard more clearly this time. 571 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, okay, I me, yeah, okay, show me April's cute, 572 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 6: April O'Neil. 573 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: Maybe it's like a teenem Ninja Turtles moment. 574 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: Okay, here's one more. This was posted by Ela Davis 575 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: and it is at the Schoffner House, which is in Crestview, Florida. 576 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: What's this one saying not saying gay? No, it actually 577 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 1: is not saying gay. You're right, Okay, let me play 578 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: it again. 579 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 5: Pizza, I kinda hear that pizza. 580 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, there's a couple of words. Let's do 581 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: it again. 582 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 6: Also here, you're a sluid A little bit could be 583 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 6: you're a slug Pizza, You're a. 584 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I am, we are collectively. 585 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 5: As a whole. 586 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: Okay, well, here's some options. Okay, is it a oh 587 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: Lisa's here. 588 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 5: The coaster shady? 589 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 2: Oh Lisa's here? 590 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: B peace be with you? Is it c will you 591 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: please sit down? Or is it d all this PC crap? 592 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,959 Speaker 1: Maybe it's like maybe it's like a fifty year old 593 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: all this PC crap these days? 594 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 2: Okay, Boomer, yeah. 595 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: Okay, let me play it again. What do you think? 596 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 5: Oh, Lisa's here, let me hear it? 597 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: Wait, do you do it one more time? It's either 598 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 2: I feel like it's either Lisa's here or please sit down? 599 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: It's see will you please sit down? 600 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 2: Okay? 601 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: I just love the idea of that, guys going, oh 602 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: Lisa's here. Okay, it's will you please sit down? Let's 603 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: see if we can hear that. 604 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 2: That I hear the tea in the sit you know, 605 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 2: I hear that that clipped tea? Right? 606 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 5: Why did he was? Was the ghost gonna say like 607 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 5: something revealing like you should sit down for this? 608 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 2: Could sit down? 609 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 6: I'm a ghost and I've been wanting to say something 610 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 6: for a little while, and I think you should be 611 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 6: sitting down. 612 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 1: See. I was thinking of it more just like somebody 613 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: complaining at a I don't know, at something where they're 614 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: just like, will you please sit down? Like an airplane. 615 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 2: Oh, the ghost is in the service industry for sure, 616 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 2: and yeah, sir down. 617 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 1: Please take your seat. We're about to take off. Yeah definitely. Okay, Well, 618 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: let's just do one more thing. Damn it. I did 619 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: this with you guys last time, and I can't remember 620 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: all the things that I asked you, I should have 621 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: re listened to it, but we're just going to try 622 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: it and see what happened. Okay, I'm just going to 623 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: list some paranormal type phenomena and let's do it. I 624 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: want to hear any thoughts you have, any maybe you've 625 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:50,359 Speaker 1: experienced it, I'm not sure. Let's talk about synchronicities. How 626 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: do you guys feel about that? 627 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 2: Can you. 628 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,479 Speaker 5: Sentence show me a bro. 629 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: So synchronicities or like deja vu goes along with that, 630 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: or just like too good to be true? Like how 631 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: how would that have happened? I just thought that that 632 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: was going to happen, and it did. I mean, does 633 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: that kind of thing happen to you guys a lot? 634 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,439 Speaker 1: Or do you do you read into it as like WHOA, 635 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: that's crazy or are you like whatever? Is this a 636 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: coincidence or totally real? 637 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 5: This happened to me recently where I was like, me 638 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 5: and my boyfriend were out at a restaurant and he's like, 639 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 5: I'm going to get this for the first time, and 640 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 5: I'm like, you've already ordered that. We've been we had 641 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 5: this conver we did this, you had it, and then 642 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 5: we did come to the conclusion like it did happen before? 643 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 5: He just has a bad memory, and I feel crazy 644 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 5: where I'm like, no, we did I know this has 645 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 5: happened before you ordered the meat bull sub And he's like. 646 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: No, so was there a moment when you thought that 647 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,760 Speaker 1: this was some kind of like paranormal like I've already 648 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: been here, I've done this, And then you're like, oh, wait, 649 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 1: no I actually have but yeah. 650 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 5: Where I'm like, wait, why would the universe want me 651 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 5: to have this meatball sub again? 652 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:20,959 Speaker 1: Like if it was in a past life? 653 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 2: See, I buy into it. 654 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 6: I feel like I live in a near constant state 655 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 6: of deja vu, like I ate so often for me 656 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 6: and it to the degree that like I know sometimes 657 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 6: what people are going to say next in a circumstance 658 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 6: where we're and I'll be like I and I'm like oh, 659 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 6: or like I'll almost sort of know like something that 660 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 6: someone has in their purse or something, and it's not 661 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 6: like it's not like psychic. I'm not like saying all 662 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 6: the things that are in the purse, but I'm like oh, 663 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 6: and then I remember you pull out this lipstick or 664 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 6: something and they're like I have this lipstick, Like okay. 665 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 1: Let's just do a test. Okay, I'm gonna hold this. 666 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: Let's just see for fun. I have something in my 667 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,720 Speaker 1: hand right now. What do you think is in my hand? 668 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 2: Come on, a pen? 669 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 1: I do not have a pen in my hand. Okay, 670 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: I have a mini stapler. 671 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no, no no no no. 672 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: Say that's what you were gonna say. 673 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 6: Legit was gonna say stapler, and I was like, who 674 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 6: the fuck has a stapler these days? 675 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 5: Liar, no, no, swear to God. 676 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: And then I was like, try it one more time. 677 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: We're doing more. Go with your gut, Go with your gut, 678 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: even if it sounds crazy. This is the one podcast 679 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: where you can sound as crazy as you want and 680 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: only some people will judge you on the internet. Okay, this, 681 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: I have something in my hand. It's not going to 682 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: throw you off like that. It's a more common thing. 683 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 2: A pad of post it notes. 684 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: Guessing you get three gases, you get three gasses. For 685 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 1: some reason, I'm. 686 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 2: Feeling paper like it's like a notepad or a notebook. 687 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, what was it? 688 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 6: What was it? 689 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 5: What was it? 690 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 2: What was it? 691 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 1: I am right next to my printer. It was my phone, 692 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:34,919 Speaker 1: I thought. Okay, so one together the stapler one. 693 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, the stapler one is actually freaky to me because 694 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 6: I was like, I think it's a stapler and then 695 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 6: I was like, bitch who has a stapler? 696 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: Like just like around but anyhow, very random any who 697 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 1: Like it is. 698 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 6: Like a feeling that like because it doesn't feel like 699 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 6: I'm not It doesn't feel like a psychic thing. It 700 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 6: just feels like I keep doing the same things over 701 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 6: and over, like a little happy death day. But like 702 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,040 Speaker 6: I only catch it every once in a while and 703 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,160 Speaker 6: I'm like we've been here together, or like I'll clock 704 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 6: when something's a little bit different, and. 705 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, see yes, And that's why I always say I 706 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: feel like I'm psychic, but not to the point where 707 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: I could charge people. But because there's so many things 708 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: that first of all, are not meaningful that I that 709 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: I can pick up like it did, like it doesn't 710 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: help anything that I could be like I have a 711 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: feeling that you have something a staple in your hand, 712 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: like what is that? It doesn't help anything at all? 713 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: Really there's that. And also it only happens sometimes, it 714 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: doesn't happen every time. 715 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 5: And you can't give like a heads up on hurricanes 716 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 5: or tornadoes. 717 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, but I think that I think 718 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: that there's like that. To me, it feels more real 719 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: than being like, oh, I'm gonna pay someone to tell 720 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: me exactly what's real right now in this very moment, 721 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, who could just pull that up, like access 722 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 1: that skill right off the bat. I don't know. 723 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,959 Speaker 6: Well, I think some of this stuff, right, it's often 724 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 6: based in like some kind of empathy. And if this, 725 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 6: then what thinking? Because like whenever I do tarot readings 726 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 6: and stuff like that, people are often like, oh, wow, 727 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 6: you're really like hitting on some stuff and I'm like, no, 728 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 6: you're hitting on some stuff. And I kind of am 729 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 6: okay at reading people and like, you know, I like, 730 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 6: there's there's a different thing going on, and is it paranormal? 731 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 2: Maybe you're like. 732 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 6: Connecting to some energy but it's not like psychic. Yeah, 733 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 6: Like I don't know if I believe in full blown psychic. 734 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh so you read Taro. I didn't know that. 735 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 2: I've started recently, Yeah, like in the past like two years. 736 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 1: It's a lot to learn, it's too I want to, 737 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 1: but I can't learn at all. But I believe in Taro. 738 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,479 Speaker 1: I very much think that taro is is legit ooh, 739 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 1: because to me, it's like the cards are the ones 740 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,319 Speaker 1: that are saying the thing, right. I think there's people 741 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: it's reflective, there's people that really good at interpreting it, 742 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,880 Speaker 1: and I think that, especially if you have like intuitive skills, 743 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: you could do a really kind of psychic reading with them. 744 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: But I think ultimately like the cards are going to 745 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 1: tell you what the truth is or what the messages 746 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: or whatever. 747 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 2: I don't. I just like it. I like it least 748 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,760 Speaker 2: you knit the story together. 749 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 6: Like I feel like you knit the story because like, 750 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,880 Speaker 6: let's say you're doing a three card reading or something, 751 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 6: and then you do your first card. You're going to 752 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 6: clock with the person's responses to it a little bit, 753 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,720 Speaker 6: and then you want the first card and the second 754 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 6: card to have some connective tissue and it is like speculative. 755 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 6: But the cards are, you know, creating the framework, and 756 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 6: then you're kind of adding stuff to it, and then 757 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 6: the person's adding stuff to it. So it's a really 758 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 6: collaborative I think experience of like, yeah. 759 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: So psychic stuff. Have you guys been to psychic's? 760 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 2: I've only ever had my like cards read, and I've 761 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 2: had my palm read. 762 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: How did that go? 763 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 4: It? 764 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 6: Was like a girl at a party, you know what 765 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 6: I mean. Like, and this is when I wasn't like, 766 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 6: I wasn't like living my full gay truth. So part 767 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 6: of it was a little bit like I was like, oh, 768 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,080 Speaker 6: I think you're barking up the wrong tree because I 769 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 6: think we're flirting. 770 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: She was like, you're gay, like based on your palm, 771 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 1: but you were. 772 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 2: That's that's how I knew. 773 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 1: She's all, let me read your palm. You're like, here 774 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: you go. She's like, Okay, I'm real, that's what it's 775 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 1: telling me. 776 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 5: She's like, you're going home with me tonight, and You're like, 777 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 5: I guess, yeah, I've I've never been to a psychic 778 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 5: or had my tara read because my mom ruined it 779 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 5: for me. She would do that when growing up, and 780 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 5: I just remember she would always be upset afterwards. But 781 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 5: I don't know who she was going to, but they 782 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 5: were like telling her like this is going to happen, 783 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 5: this is going to happen, and then she would get 784 00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 5: all like freaked out and like obsessed. And then I 785 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 5: was like, I'm not doing that. I don't want to 786 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,240 Speaker 5: know never mind. 787 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,800 Speaker 1: But isn't your mom also like super Christian Catholic. Yeah, Catholic. 788 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 5: Oh, and a hypocrite, as most most Mexican Catholic moms are. 789 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 5: They're also into like witchy stuff, which I'm like, it 790 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 5: goes against the whole thing, but they're like, no, this 791 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 5: it's part of it. 792 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: I think it is. I think it's all so much 793 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 1: more similar than we like to think. I think that 794 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: like formal religion puts people against each other or something, 795 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: but I think there's like so much that is so similar. 796 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 5: The spells and the Yeah. I feel like as Catholics, 797 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 5: you know, every saint is like a different spell if 798 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 5: you want like money or I remember we did a 799 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 5: whole thing because we wanted my cousin she liked this 800 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 5: guy and she wanted him to ask her to the 801 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 5: middle school dance. So we did like a thing with 802 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 5: a saint and the picture of the boy, and we 803 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 5: did a whole. 804 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: Spell that's totally spell work. 805 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I meaning he didn't ask her, but we we 806 00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 5: truly attempted. 807 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: What do you say, we what do we what do 808 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 1: you mean a little cousin? 809 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was me, my aunt, my cousin and my 810 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 5: mom and we were like, okay, we need a picture 811 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 5: of this boy. And we put it in a cup 812 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 5: of water upside down. It was like the whole thing. 813 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is full of witchery, practical magic. 814 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 5: Yes, I mean I feel like it was just more 815 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 5: bonding for us. But the guy didn't that never manifested. 816 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: Oh I love that though. 817 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, what do. 818 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 1: You guys think of Let's see here. I don't know 819 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 1: if I asked you guys this before, but let's see 820 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 1: time travel. Oh, like speaking a tik speaking of TikTok, 821 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: you TikTok. You will see videos where it's like this 822 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 1: person time traveled based on this photo from nineteen twenty one, 823 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 1: and then you'll just see like somebody within the background 824 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 1: with like a cell phone just like talking like totally 825 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 1: edited in, or or it's like they're holding up I 826 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: don't know, like a bandage to their ear that they 827 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 1: lost in a war or something like. It's like not 828 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: it's not as I've seen those. Yeah, but do you 829 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:38,880 Speaker 1: think that that's possible? 830 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 2: No? I think I don't think. 831 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean no, But like as far as like 832 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 6: the theory in and around it, and like the idea 833 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 6: of like I don't know, like different things like string 834 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 6: theory and like universe stuff and in the multiverse and 835 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 6: different things like that. I believe in that more than 836 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 6: I think that we've ever time traveled or like that 837 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 6: we've ever encountered that. But I believe that the texture 838 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 6: of all of this is way more porous and weird 839 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 6: and not linear than we think it is. 840 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 1: Yeah. 841 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's got to be like other dimensions 842 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,280 Speaker 5: for sure, like when when the gummy hits real hard, 843 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:29,879 Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm seeing other dimensions for sure. But as 844 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 5: far as time travel, I'm like, yeah, like back to 845 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 5: the future, I wish hard. Yeah, I think that would 846 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:37,919 Speaker 5: be fun. 847 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 2: I just think that we would have fucked shit up more. 848 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, and like, okay, this is the version of time 849 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 6: travel because of the multiverse stuff and whatnot that I 850 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 6: would believe, and this is a little x men E 851 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 6: and whatnot. I think that there's like the thing where 852 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 6: it's like, you know, I'm gonna eat this sandwich, and 853 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 6: it's like do you eat the sandwich? Do you not 854 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 6: eat the sandwich? Like choose your own adventure book, and 855 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 6: then that creates to every decision you make creates two 856 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 6: different universes. There's the universe where Vanessa eat a sandwich. 857 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,840 Speaker 6: And there's the universe like sliding doors with Gwyneth Paltrow 858 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 6: have two different absolutely And I think that that's kind 859 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 6: of true. Like I think that there are like fractals, 860 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 6: and I think that that actually ties into the deja 861 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 6: vous a little bit where they think there's like everything 862 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 6: you do, there's a version of the universe where you 863 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 6: didn't do it. 864 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 5: Let me tell you there's no version or universe where 865 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 5: Vanessa doesn't eat a sandwich. 866 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 2: There's the Hungry Vanessa timeline. 867 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, she loves sandwiches, and in. 868 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,479 Speaker 2: This timeline you have an eyepatch. Yeah. 869 00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: I mean, like, who could say anytime there's been horrible 870 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: things or whatever that have happened in the world, Like 871 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,160 Speaker 1: what if it was somebody went back in time and 872 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 1: ate a sandwich right before that happened, or we don't 873 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 874 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, true, what a. 875 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: Fun thing to think about. Well, you guys, I think 876 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: that's about it. I think we did another podcast together. 877 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 2: We did it. This is the best one yet. 878 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,839 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a pretty good one. I'm going 879 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 1: to help to vote now if you think that this 880 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: is the best one, can you tell people where to 881 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 1: find you and and listen to your podcast and all 882 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: that stuff. 883 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 6: Absolutely. Yeah, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram 884 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 6: under Michael Folk. And then for our podcast, it's I'm 885 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 6: Not Busy Podcast. I'm Not Busy on Spotify and Stitcher 886 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,520 Speaker 6: and Apple Podcasts and all that. 887 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm Vanessa g Comedy on Instagram and Twitter, 888 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 5: and yeah, when I'm not busy I call Michael and 889 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,760 Speaker 5: we talk about dumb stuff. 890 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 2: We got some great episodes coming up in the can. 891 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I highly recommend it. And I last time you 892 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: guys were on, if people sent me messages, tell me 893 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,440 Speaker 1: how funny you guys are. Another listen to the podcast 894 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 1: and I highly endorse. I find you guys so funny. 895 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:30,919 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 896 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, this was fun. 897 00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Michael Vanessa. Go back and 898 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 1: listen to the last time they were on. I'll put 899 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,279 Speaker 1: a link to that appearance on this podcast. I'll put 900 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 1: it in the description as well, and you can also 901 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 1: find their my Patreon link. And could you write the 902 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,320 Speaker 1: rate the show five stars? 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