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Speaker 1: Is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Drive. I'm Dale LOLLI he is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt jumping into the little fantasy

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Speaker 2: football here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, start host draft right.

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Speaker 2: Matthew Berry has put together his list of players he

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Speaker 2: likes and doesn't like coming out of the draft because

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Speaker 2: of the way things change for them. Yeah yeah, not

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Speaker 2: just the rookies, but some of the veterans as well,

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Speaker 2: and so quarterbacks, let's jump into that quarterbacks he loves.

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Speaker 2: Post draft, he has Caleb Williams on this list.

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Speaker 3: Number one went pretty well for him. I mean you

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Speaker 3: got two big time receiving prospects. Yeah, and the interior

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Speaker 3: lines looks like it's there are no more excuses for

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Speaker 3: Caleb Boyams.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, No, I still have very much any questions

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Speaker 2: about Caleb Boyas I do too.

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Speaker 3: I do too. But for fantasy only? Could is he

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Speaker 3: his top twelve? M No, I don't know what. The

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Speaker 3: run off doesn't run as much you think. I bet

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Speaker 3: I could have come up with Mortan like would rather

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Speaker 3: have Trevor Lawrence. No, no, but I mean there's probably

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Speaker 3: ten easy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he did well. He did well.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's fantasy stock.

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Speaker 2: I'd rather have Jordan Love than Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 3: That's a good example.

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Speaker 2: Baker Baker. Yeah, who's next on this list? Baker May.

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Speaker 3: I guess he would be a nice receivers. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Other guys that he has on his list, those

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Speaker 2: are the two guys that he loves. Others that he

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Speaker 2: has on the list Justin Fields because they didn't Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they they didn't draft another quarterback. So he's going to

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Speaker 2: be the starter all season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think one thing that's forgotten about Fields

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Speaker 3: is their new head coach had to defend against Fields

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Speaker 3: in the NFC North. Yeah. Those he can be paying

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Speaker 3: the butt.

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Speaker 2: You know, he has Justin Herbert on this list. And

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Speaker 2: I actually look thought more. I look at this the

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Speaker 2: other way because you say, what they added three pass

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Speaker 2: catchers in a draft. Yeah, but it was Trey Harris

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Speaker 2: KeAndre Lambert Smith and Rondez Gadson, none of whom were

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Speaker 3: Right, thought, maybe they especially the off season as a whole, and.

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Speaker 2: They he added a couple of running backs in the

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Speaker 2: off season. You're going to run the ball.

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Speaker 3: More right, his passing numbers might not go off.

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Speaker 2: It's not Yeah, he's not going to be a high

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Speaker 2: volume passer. I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to touch Justin Herbert and Fantasy next year.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's a much he's a much better player

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Speaker 3: than fantasy player. But his tuck didn't go up.

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Speaker 2: No, it couldn't.

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Speaker 3: You're taking Catle Williams over him and face I would, Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence is a question there, like Justin Herbert or

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, that's a legit argument there. QB two's

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Speaker 2: Drake may Oh buy that Trevy? They added Trevon Henderson

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Speaker 3: Is that enough to I'm kind of including Digs in

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Speaker 3: I heard today that he's been running and it's looking good.

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Speaker 3: How much I believe it, But yeah, it's got better

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Speaker 3: for him. Henderson's helpful. Bryce Young in Carolina. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean you got a number one receiver. I don't think

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Speaker 3: he's a true NFL number one, but it helped his cause.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the last guy is well, like I might take.

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Speaker 3: May over all these guys we've talked about.

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Speaker 2: He runs Tyler shuck.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean, I don't think anybody

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Speaker 3: expected him to be fantasy relevant, and maybe he is.

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Speaker 2: Quarterbacks he hates post draft Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a guard, not much else.

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Speaker 2: It's still Ceedee Lamb, Jalen Tolbert, Cavante, Turpin Mingo.

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Speaker 3: They traded for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that receiver group's bad. It's tight.

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Speaker 3: I mean Dak didn't get any favors.

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Speaker 2: No, no, well, I mean you're paying him a bunch

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Speaker 2: of money. He's supposed to be the guy that elevates.

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Speaker 3: Where you're at on him in fantasy.

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Speaker 2: I would take him head of Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 3: I was, let's ask you versus Baker.

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Speaker 2: I might rather Baker.

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Speaker 3: They got rather Baker throws touchdowns. Yeah, yeah, and he

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Speaker 3: runs more than Dak.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Shudoor Sanders.

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Speaker 3: The guys went backwards.

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Speaker 3: I guess maybe he had a going into the draft.

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Speaker 3: Maybe people thought he'd be an opening day starter.

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Speaker 2: And somebody on our message board on yesterday's show said

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Speaker 2: something I proposed to the point that, you know, why

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Speaker 2: do you not like the Browns draft when they got

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Speaker 2: the guy in the fifth, fifth round that everybody said

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Speaker 2: they were going to be taking at the second overall pick.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, by the time the draft rolled around,

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Speaker 2: nobody had them taking Shoot or Sanders in the second pick.

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Speaker 3: I really dis liked their draft. They didn't taken alignment. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Sanders made my favorite pick they made.

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Speaker 2: I mean the value was great, but yeah, he'd already

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Speaker 2: taken another quarterback.

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Speaker 3: But there's something going on there. Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 2: Running backs that he loves post draft, Ashton Genty, well,

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Speaker 2: I imagine he probably liked him, probably too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Carrol's got a pretty good reputation if he does

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Speaker 3: guy though, and then the old line's okay.

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Speaker 2: The next one's a little questionable, and not because of

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Speaker 2: where he landed at, because of the situation Amari and Hampton.

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Speaker 3: Oh you much rather he landed in like Chicago, yeah,

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Speaker 2: No, I mean he's they they gave Nause Harris some money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and he seems like a good fit for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And we didn't love Hampton for Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 2: So let's say it's a sixty forty split in Hampton's

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Speaker 2: favor in Hampton's favor, that still doesn't make him a

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Speaker 2: great fantasy running back next year.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know if he's a top twenty four. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean he's definitely not a top twelve, and.

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Speaker 2: I'll take my chances. Nause might be the third down

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Speaker 2: back too. He's going he's a better he's a better

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at least right this minute. I'm sure Hampton could

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Speaker 3: take things over the last He might win your playoffs

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Speaker 3: have a hard time drafting them high.

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Speaker 2: Quinn Shad Jenkins, Yeah, I mean I.

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Speaker 3: Guess he goes up because he's clearly the one. Samson's

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Speaker 2: Harvey that should work out, yeah, really well for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even know if you have to like

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Speaker 3: him as a player. I mean, it's just a good situation.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Julia McLaughlin's probably still the third down back

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Speaker 2: as Rodrick guest amasi at the other guy and Tyler Baddie.

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Speaker 3: I mean those aren't much the kind of competition ye

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Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson with the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Agreed Yeah, we talked about that in the Rookie of

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Speaker 3: the Year stuff. It's a real good landing spot for him.

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Speaker 3: Scheme two.

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Speaker 2: His others receiving votes were Chase Brown with the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Todds Brooks isn't a bad player, but that's they

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Speaker 3: thought they might get more competition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Isaiah Pacheco.

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Speaker 3: They didn't do much.

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Speaker 2: They didn't really. They added another seventh round back and.

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Speaker 3: They drafted a alignment at all.

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Speaker 2: It's Bershard Smith. He's not in every down back.

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Speaker 3: No, now that works off well for pachecka. I'm a

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Speaker 3: little shocked in a running back heavy draft they didn't

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Speaker 2: Than they thought.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, Javonte Williams. I guess he's the one. It

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Speaker 2: sure looks like it. I mean again, Jayden Blue is

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Speaker 2: not in every down back and was a seventh round

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Speaker 3: Miles Anders is hard to trust too, right, Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I guess it's Williams. Jordan James, Yes, I think we're

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Speaker 3: talking about him today. I eventually we did the NMFC

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Speaker 3: West show. I think he's the two. I think he's

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Speaker 3: the handcuff. Yeah, McCaffrey, who do you trust?

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Speaker 2: McCaffrey you know, and they're not gonna have McCaffrey and

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Speaker 2: they're closing out games.

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Speaker 3: No, I keep bumping Jordan James up my Dynasty rookie stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna play Devin Neil not bad.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Kamara to kind of get out of the way, but.

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Speaker 2: It just might be a bad offense. Yeah, So I

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Speaker 3: Don't know what to deal with Kendrey Miller is. People

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Speaker 3: don't seem to like him. Yeah, in the building, right,

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Speaker 3: it's a new new group, new group, and yeah, you

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Speaker 3: just don't know. It's not a bad spot for Neil though.

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Speaker 2: Running backs, he hates Ramandrie Stevenson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that was a shot. Yeah, that hurt. That definitely hurt.

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Speaker 2: He hates Nagie Harris. He went backwards, yeah much rather again,

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Speaker 2: he went from maybe you're getting seventy percent of this

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Speaker 3: Much rather they took Loveland or a receiver or Golden

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Speaker 2: Jalen Warren.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think anyone thought he was going

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Speaker 3: to be a bell cow.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Warren's role is not going to change right at all? Right, right,

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Speaker 2: I In fact, he might get a little bit more

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Speaker 2: than last year than last year. I remember he was,

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Speaker 2: but it was it was pretty much a fifty to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he went backwards.

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Speaker 2: No, I think he's the same. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I would hate him. He's a flex right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know that's what he is. If he's a flex

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Speaker 2: tyrone Tracy, he went backwards?

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Speaker 3: Who did they take again? To him? Was?

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Speaker 2: Okay, scatterbo Maybe that's a goal line guy. You might

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Speaker 2: lose your goal line carries and he's not. They still

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Speaker 2: have Devin Singletary hands right too.

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Speaker 3: Right. Tracy's a nice story, but he's not infallible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he did fumble a couple of times down the stretch. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Travis at n Yes, maybe he.

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Speaker 3: Ends up in Dallas. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think they took two. They took bay Shell, Tuton

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Speaker 2: and LeQuinn Allen.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and Tank was already still there.

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Speaker 2: Bigsby was already there past catchers. He loves post draft,

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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 3: That's a good spot. I mean, somebody you didn't want

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Speaker 3: to be a corner, now, you know, I mean someone

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Speaker 3: traded up to make you mostly a receiver. New England

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Speaker 3: and Jacksonville are the teams you wanted?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, if you had a fantasy purposes Tederoe McMillan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean somebody loved you. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Calvin Ridley, I agree, I agree. I mean they didn't

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Speaker 3: They get some mid round guys that are kind of

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. If they would have they would

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Speaker 3: It really hurt Judy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Judy had a really good year. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: Would you take Judy compared to the Steelers receivers.

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Speaker 2: I get one hundred and forty five targets. That's a

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Speaker 2: Receiver necessarily love the player, but right, forty five targets,

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Speaker 3: Coach esaff likes them.

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Speaker 3: Rookie tight ends all of a sudden, making him one

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Speaker 2: As saying, way, Ben Johnson's there, the new coach, and

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Speaker 3: More of it. That's a thing though. Yeah, other guys

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Speaker 3: much better Fantasy year than people realize if Jack Bash

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Speaker 2: Right, he's sitting pretty Jack Beck and Trey Tucker.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's not bad.

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Speaker 3: Quentin Johnston, I guess they thought they could have got

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Speaker 3: more competition. Yeah, Mike Williams doesn't look too scary Johnston.

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Speaker 3: I know, k Yere Yeah, he's not for me.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Williams, Yeah that's goods.

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Speaker 3: But I think he could start opposite Diggs.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Tolbert.

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Speaker 3: I guess he's the two.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he used the second round draft pick on

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Speaker 3: I mentioned Mingo before they gave up a fourth for

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Speaker 3: a terrible trade. Yeah, they have some plan there.

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Speaker 2: Uh. Pat Bryant, I don't see it.

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Speaker 3: No, I like what then Ver did? All in all,

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Speaker 3: they found there. Michael Thomas, I'm like, let's go because Peyton,

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Speaker 2: Peyton compared him to oh did he actually sad compared him?

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Speaker 3: Come on man, yeah, that's pretty lofty. I mean Michael

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Speaker 2: Jylen Royals not bad, but it doesn't Racy Race is

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Speaker 2: they compared him to Woods there. It's crowded.

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Speaker 3: It is crowded. Kelsey's still looming.

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Speaker 2: Mason Taylor not bad.

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Speaker 3: I mean I doubt he'll be their number two receiver,

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Speaker 2: Finished with fifty catches, yeah, yeah. Uh. Terrence Ferguson, I

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Speaker 2: guess kind of by default. Yeah, past catchers. He hates

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Speaker 2: post draft DJ Moore.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a lot of effort stuff people didn't

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Speaker 3: like last year and body language and things like that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Chris Godwin and Jaylen McMillan in Tampa Bay. Not Evans though,

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Speaker 2: No Evans is going to be Evans. Yeah, although at

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Speaker 2: some point was he thirty two now? Yeah, But I

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Speaker 2: mean Godwin was like a top five guy when he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 2: He was a fantasy winner until he got hurt.

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Speaker 3: If he's real cheap this year, I think I'd roll

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Speaker 2: Jaden Reid with Green Bay, I don't think he goes away.

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Speaker 3: No, I think he's better than Dubs and Watson's out

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Speaker 3: of the mix. I think it's reading the first round

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just figuring out which one's going to be again,

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Speaker 2: it's typical Green baypron which one's going to be the

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Speaker 3: Like it's not as crowded as like Kansas City though, No, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, not nearly, especially, you know, with Watson out of

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's he might never play again, right,

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Speaker 2: But they took Jayden, Higgins and Jalen and already had

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Speaker 3: And let alone Nico. I mean Dell's out of the picture.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Warren in Indianapolis, I don't think that's a great

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Speaker 3: Terrible landing spot.

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Speaker 2: They got a lot of receivers, a lot of receivers

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet They're run percentage is really hot.

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Speaker 2: I would have felt better if Loveland had gone to Indianapolis,

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Speaker 2: just because he's a better he's better at adjusting to

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Speaker 3: He did a lot of it. In Michigan. Yeah, bad quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying Warren can't do it right, right right,

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Speaker 2: He didn't have to do it like Loveland did.

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Speaker 3: Was not McCarthy throwing to him. Yeah, that's a terrible

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what's he finished with this year? Forty catches?

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Speaker 3: Probably a lot of short manufactured easy layups too.

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Speaker 2: I don't even trust I don't trust Anthony Richardson to

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Speaker 3: All these rookie tight ends don't do it for me

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Speaker 2: It's tough. Yeah, it's very tough. But that was Matthew

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Speaker 3: I was just thinking from a Steeler perspective. Nothing really

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Speaker 3: but we didn't think he really should. Yeah, John John

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Speaker 3: should have that he could have went somewhere it was

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Speaker 3: way more crowded like Hampton did. Yeah, but don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, is Rogers fantasy worthy if he's the guy,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't run him out of one hundred rushing yards

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Speaker 3: this year? Yeah, I mean i'd take him over like

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Speaker 1: The ball a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, for sure. Let's get through a break.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back on Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: and this is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network

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Speaker 2: and the Matt we mentioned in the first hour. We

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Speaker 2: go back and look at some of the Steeler drafts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, over the.

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Speaker 2: Last well, everybody's everybody knows the nineteen seventy four draft

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Speaker 2: the best in Steelers history. It's the best in NFL

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Speaker 2: history period, end of discussion. Nobody's especially they're Donnie Shell

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Speaker 2: in the mix too. Yeah, undrafted, nobody's c Yeah. But

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Speaker 2: you start to look at like a lot of people

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Speaker 2: look at the draft and say, well, you don't have

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Speaker 2: any of these guys on your team anymore, So the

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Speaker 2: draft can't They couldn't have been a good one.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we had some good examples of like Holland and

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Speaker 3: guys like that that were really good picks that were

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Speaker 3: too expensive. Williams.

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Speaker 2: So, for example, when people go back and look at,

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Speaker 2: say the twenty sixteen draft, which was for the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: Artie Burns, Sean Davis, Javon Hargrave, Gerald Hawkins, Travis Foeney,

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Speaker 2: DeMarcus Ayres, Tyler, Metakevitch, so.

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Speaker 3: I was that draft was terrible. It was a bust

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Speaker 3: of a draft. A Artie Burns is still in the league, right,

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Speaker 3: You're not thrilled you took him in the first round, No,

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Speaker 3: of course, but he's still in the league.

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Speaker 2: Javon Hargrave got money, and if Steph, here's the thing

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Speaker 2: with Javon Hargrave. That's the best pick of the draft.

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Speaker 2: If they hadn't paid stuff onto it, he might still

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Speaker 2: the year before that they could have paid Juwon Hargrave.

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Speaker 2: Not knowing that stuff onto it wasn't gonna last.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't make Jevon Hargrave a bad pick.

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Speaker 3: That's not e were close to a bad pick. That's

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Speaker 3: a great pick.

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Speaker 2: That's a great pick.

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Speaker 3: That's a third round guy that's turned into almost pro

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Speaker 3: bowl or kind of pro bowler type. I would argue,

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Speaker 3: I know this is kind of getting nerdy, but for

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Speaker 3: Matta Kaevich in the seventh round, you accomplished exactly what

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Speaker 3: you wanted that I mean, I'm looking at their careers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and not that doesn't mean you have to be a

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Speaker 3: Steeler for life. No, And I think sometimes people get

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Speaker 3: caught up in that part of it exactly. For example,

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Speaker 3: the twenty seventeen draft, I don't care how you look

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Speaker 3: at it, was a great draft for the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: You got t J.

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Speaker 3: Watt, But that's that in itself is a great draft.

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Speaker 2: Juju Smith Schuster in the second round you got a

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Speaker 2: lot out of Juju. Cameron Sutton in a third round

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Speaker 2: you got a lot out of Sutton. James Connor in

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Speaker 2: the third round is a compensatory pick. Josh Dobbs in

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Speaker 2: the fourth round, that's a hit, that's a fantastic You

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Speaker 2: got five guys who eight years later are still in

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Speaker 3: That, I don't care, one of the best players in

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Speaker 2: I don't care where they're playing at.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, right. They were good draft payers, good draft picks.

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Speaker 3: We picked the right people. Yeah, I think that's the

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Speaker 3: way you have to look at it. We've had this,

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Speaker 3: fifth round is a good pick. If Howard has a

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Speaker 3: Dobbs career, that's a good pick. Yeah. I mean, he lasted,

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Speaker 3: He played meaningful snaps. He was useful on and off

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Speaker 2: Twenty eighteen was Terrell Edmonds in the first round, James

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Speaker 2: Washington in the second, Mason Rudolph and Chooks a CORPS

443
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,399
Speaker 2: four in the third, Marcus Allen Jalen Samuels in the

444
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 2: fifth round, Josh Fraser defensive tackle in the seventh round. Again,

445
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 2: not a great draft.

446
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 3: And looked better early and didn't age well.

447
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean James James Washington was a I'd say

448
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 2: he wasn't horrible. He led your team in receiving yards

449
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen when you had nothing. Yeah, yeah, you know,

450
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 2: Edmonds was a was a four year starter for You's

451
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 2: still in the league.

452
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a worthless draft. No, Rudolph is aging

453
00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 3: the best of course. Yeah, Chuker was the starting tackle.

454
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 3: He's sort of in the Dan Moore conversation we had earlier.

455
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's played seventy eight career games. The

456
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 2: only the only guy in that draft class who had

457
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 2: who's played more is Torell Edmands, who's played one hundred

458
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 2: and one career games.

459
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 3: There's a durability thing with him too. Yeah. Yeah, not

460
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 3: the greatest, but not the greatest. But brendis again, if

461
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 3: you get three starters out of a draft, you're really happy.

462
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen was the Devin Bush trade up out. Yeah,

463
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 2: and nobody was panning them trading up for Devin Bush

464
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 2: at that time.

465
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 3: No, do you think his injury was the biggest thing

466
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 3: that derailed his career?

467
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: I think so.

468
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.

469
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 2: But Deontay Johnson in the third round.

470
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 3: That's a home run.

471
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 2: That's a home run.

472
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,439
Speaker 3: I guess they'd have a two.

473
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 2: They didn't have a two because yeah, Justin lane In

474
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 2: also in round three. I mean he lasted a little

475
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: Benny Snell in round four.

476
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 3: That's not bad either.

477
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: That that's a round four running back.

478
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 3: Yeah you got, you got almost also a core special

479
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 3: team it was a.

480
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,160
Speaker 2: Get almost a thousand yards out of him in his career.

481
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 2: Zach Gentry, And that's not terrible either.

482
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 3: I mean he was a contributor.

483
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 2: Sutton Smith in the in round six that didn't work out.

484
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 2: Us Isaiah Bugs in round six as well. Is still

485
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 2: he's still in the league. Uh Ulysses Gilbert in another

486
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 2: sixth round pick, and Derwin Gray in the seventh round pound.

487
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 2: Now a lot of those guys were fifth round and lower.

488
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know it's asking a lot. But one

489
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 3: thing you'd love to see that hasn't really happened in

490
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 3: that era is the sixth round. That's a real hit.

491
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 3: You know, I don't think be t J. Watt, but

492
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 3: I mean, like every downstarter.

493
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 2: The next year. Now, remember they had traded their first

494
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 2: round draft pick, oh right, okay from micka Fitzpatrick. Yeh,

495
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: Chase Claypool in the second round.

496
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: You can't figure if that's a good pick or not.

497
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: Because there was some good stuff early. You end up

498
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: gett turned him into Joey Porter.

499
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 2: He had one hundred in his career. He has one

500
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five catches for twenty two hundred yards

501
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: and thirteen touchdowns.

502
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 3: I mean his career really tallied off, but it was

503
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 3: after you got rid of him, right, you know. I

504
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 3: mean I'm not sure if it has a good or

505
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 3: bad pick for the stealer. You get Alex high Smith

506
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 3: in round three, Yeah, that's that's a home run. It's

507
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 3: a big time hit. Yeah. Uh.

508
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: Anthony McFarlane frankly like if.

509
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 3: The Niners taking Mike kel Williams at ten turns into

510
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 3: Alex high Smith, they're happy. Noh yeah, I mean that's

511
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 3: any of these a rushers.

512
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: Anthony Mofarland in round four, Not so much, right, Kevin

513
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 2: Dotson in round four.

514
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 3: His best was elsewhere. But that's still a nice pick.

515
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Antoine Brooks in the round six and Carls Carlos

516
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: Davis in round seven. Carlos Davis might still be in

517
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: the league. He's kicked around a little bit in twin

518
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: I get confused. Twenty twenty one, we went over that

519
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 2: draft earlier. Naujia Harris, Pat Frarm with Kevin green More,

520
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 2: Isaiah louder Milk. Those guys are all still in the league. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

521
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: And Isaiah louder Milk is the perfect example of the

522
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: people will you didn't give him a second contract? Well,

523
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: they did give Isaiah louder Milk a second contract. That

524
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: doesn't mean it's a hit.

525
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 3: Right, right, right, right. I mean they kind of brought

526
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 3: him back and he might not make the team.

527
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: But I'll make the team. But you know it goes

528
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 2: against well, if you don't give the guy the second contract,

529
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: then he couldn't have been a hit.

530
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 3: Now, he can't argue both sides of that. No, there's

531
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 3: too many circumstances there. That's not a good Dan Moore

532
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 3: was a hit. He's not in Pittsburgh anymore, right, right,

533
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 3: But he was a hit more so than Isaiah louder Milk.

534
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 3: He's very wealthy too.

535
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, twenty twenty two, All those guys are still

536
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: in the league right now. Kenny pick Att, George Pickens

537
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: to Marvin Leal, Calvin Austin Connor, Heyward Mark Robinson, Chris A. Lodacon.

538
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 3: Okay, you want more out of your first of course,

539
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 3: but quarterbacks have a high bus, right.

540
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, looking back at some of these other dress people

541
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: want to look how how far back do you look

542
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 2: at a draft before? When you say, uh, for example,

543
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: when Mason Rudolph and Trell Evans left in the officer Mason,

544
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 2: Torell Evans, Mason Rudolph, and Chucks the corps for are

545
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 2: all left last offseason?

546
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

547
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well the Steelers don't have anybody left from their

548
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen draft. This is in twenty twenty four.

549
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, like right right.

550
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: Six years in the NFL is a long.

551
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 3: As a long time, not for long, yeah, I mean,

552
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: I mean NFL stands for not for long. Yeah, that

553
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 3: does bother me sometimes, Like, man, they don't have anyone

554
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 3: from their twenty fifteen draft class or four. I mean,

555
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 3: like that's a long time ago. I mean how many

556
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 3: teams have think about this? So the twenty fifteen draft

557
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 3: was Bud Dupree, who's still in the league. Yeah, yeah,

558
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 3: san Quiz Golson. The other thing we have to know

559
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 3: is these aren't top ten picks by the way, right.

560
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: Ever, ever, Sammy Coates, Duran Grant, Jesse, James lt, Walton

561
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 2: Anthony Chickelow, Gerrod Hollman.

562
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if that was a bad draft or

563
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 3: not for the Steelers. You know, like Jesse James was

564
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 3: a valuable player. Losing san Quiz Golson hurt. I didn't

565
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 3: say that was unforeseen.

566
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, back to back injuries and just didn't never nothing.

567
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: But you got bud Dupree Adam and your franchise tag him.

568
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah he started slow, but you didn't need him to

569
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 3: be a superstar immediately either.

570
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 2: The twenty fourteen draft was Ryan Shazier and steff On

571
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: to It in the first two rounds. Those were both

572
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: home runs.

573
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: And just imagine, Yeah, I mean what could have kept

574
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 3: going on with both?

575
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 2: Then you got Dree Archer and the third. But you

576
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: took Martavis Bryan in the fourth. Right, that was a

577
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 2: home run.

578
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: That's a home run. I mean you got a real

579
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: impact player in the mid rounds. Yeah, that's a really

580
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 3: good draft. Archer was just a flat a mistake.

581
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Twenty thirteen, they took Jarvis Jones in the

582
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: first round. That's a miss. But then you got leve

583
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: On Bell in the second.

584
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: I was back in the league for a while.

585
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 2: That was a absolute home run.

586
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: Absolute home run. It might even make up for.

587
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: Jones Marcus Wheaton in the third. He was a seventy

588
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: ninth pick. Those third round wide receivers. Once you get

589
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: that low, we kind of talk about that.

590
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: I wouldn't call him as though, I mean he played

591
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: a fair amount.

592
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Shamarco Thomas, Landry Jones in the fourth round.

593
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: Landry Jones is another example of the backup quarterback that

594
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 3: last is worth a sixth seventh round pick.

595
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 2: You got Terry Hawthorne in the fifth, Justin Brown in

596
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 2: the sixth, Vince Williams in the sixth. That's the kind

597
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: of sixth round pick that.

598
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get starter in the sixth round. That's that's living.

599
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 2: And then the seventh round pick was Nick Williams, who

600
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: is still in the damn league?

601
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: Is he really? Yeah? Wow? No, that's good stuff with

602
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 3: like the Vince Williams a perfect example. He doesn't have

603
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 3: to be Jack Lambert or Jack hamb but he's a

604
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 3: good player for you and plays a lot of snaps there.

605
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: In twenty twelve, Kelvin Beacham was their seventh round draft pick.

606
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,239
Speaker 3: That's a home run.

607
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: He was almost the last guy picked in that draft.

608
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: So two hundred and forty eighth and he is still playing.

609
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 3: I won't know how many games he's played.

610
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: He has played one hundred and seventy nine career games. Wow,

611
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: Like that was their David Di Castro draft with Mike

612
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: Adams in the second.

613
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: Adam was a mess.

614
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, Cam Hayward obviously in twenty eleven, still going hard.

615
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 2: But you got Marcus Gilbert in the second. It's a

616
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: good player.

617
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's a starting tackle. It's a

618
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 3: hard position to fine.

619
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again you were picking thirty first that year,

620
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 2: so thirty first and sixty third.

621
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 3: I think that again goes without saying that a lot

622
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 3: of these are late in the round.

623
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: The twenty ten draft, you got Marquise Pouncey in the

624
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: first round, Jason Worlds in the second. And I know

625
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 2: people want to rip on Jason Worlds, but he led

626
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: the team in sacks in two different seasons.

627
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 3: Did he give the game up to just pursue other interests?

628
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: Yes?

629
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: He okay, yeah, yeah, I think he was religious and

630
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: did something with that. He did play football.

631
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: He wasn't a bad player. He was blocked for two

632
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: years by James Harrison and Lamar Woodley.

633
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: Right, like people.

634
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: I remember people ripping on I can't believe it took him, Like,

635
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: where's he supposed to start at? Yeah, yeah, don't blame

636
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: the player.

637
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: Right right, that's not necessarily a bad pick.

638
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: Now, Emmanuel Sanders in a third, that's a home That

639
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: was the eighty second pick in that draft.

640
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 1: Uh.

641
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: Then, oh, by the way, they got some guy named

642
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: Antonio Brown in the sixth.

643
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, now that's where you're really talking.

644
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you could make the argument that's one of

645
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: the better drafts in team.

646
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 3: History, probably team history. Right.

647
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: Cam Hayward may be in the same draft, Marquise Pouncey

648
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: is a borderline without faunt. Yeah, the draft and you

649
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: got you might have two Hall of famers in that

650
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: same draft.

651
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty strong.

652
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: That's pretty damn strong.

653
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: I wonder how often that's happened in NFL history. We

654
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: opened with the Steelers having several in one draft. Yeah,

655
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: how many drafts had two Hall of famers in the.

656
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: Same Going back here, I'm just I want to look

657
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: here the Roethlisberger draft, when you all you got, you

658
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: got Ralph Roethlisberger, Ricardo Cokeley in the second, Max Stark's

659
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: in the third. That's a hit that's a hit. Pick

660
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: seventy five, Max, There you go, Max. Uh. The uh

661
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: Paulamalo draft traded up for Troy Polamalo took Alonzo Jackson

662
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: in the second round.

663
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're throwing some Hall of Fame name in a

664
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: round though, too.

665
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: But you got Ike Taylor in the in the fourth.

666
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: Oh, that'd be great.

667
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: You got two starting defensive backs and one of them

668
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame in the

669
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: same draft.

670
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 3: If you get like Taylor in the fourth round next year,

671
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: you're loving it. Oh.

672
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely. The two thousand and two draft Kendall Simmons and

673
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: that was really late, right, wasn't he the thirtieth Yeah,

674
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: Antoine Randall at sixty two.

675
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: Simmons was a really good starter.

676
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: Chris Hope at ninety four, he was a starter, right

677
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: a long time. Ye started the suit for a Super Bowl.

678
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: Larry Foot in the fourth round, also a starter, now

679
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: one hundred he played the most games out of all

680
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: those guys, one hundred and eighty seven. Really, you also

681
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: got varn Haynes, who was around type.

682
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, you got Brett Keesl in

683
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: the seventh Oh wow, I mean that's living large too. Yeah,

684
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: those late hits, and they had four guys in that

685
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: draft that played it one hundred and forty three games

686
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: or more. We mentioned, you know, two starters is great,

687
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: three starters is really great. You got five he got

688
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: in that one, right.

689
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: That's that's how you changed things around the two thousand

690
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: and one draft again another Casey Hampton, Kendrow.

691
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,239
Speaker 3: Bell boom boom, boom boom, and immediately changed the defense. Right.

692
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then you also got guys like CHUCKI Yakobe played

693
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: seventy eight career games, Rodney Bailey who played eighty four.

694
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: Roger Knight stuck around the league for a while. He

695
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: was a sixth round pick. Didn't stick here, but he played,

696
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: I think for the Saints for a long time. That

697
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: two thousand draft. Plexico Buris, that's a hit. Marvel Smith,

698
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: that's definitely the second round. Kendrick Clancy in the third.

699
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: He's a quality player, right, Hank Potite in the third.

700
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: He played one hundred and ten career games. Clark Hagen's

701
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: played the most games at of all. He was a

702
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: fifth round pick, one hundred and seventy two career games. Wow,

703
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: forty six and a half career sacks.

704
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's wonderful. Yeah.

705
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: The ninety nine draft, Troy Edwards in the first round. Oh,

706
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: you had a terrible draft, Scott Shields in a second. Oh,

707
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 2: you must have had an awful draft. Joey Porter in

708
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: the third. Yeah, yeah, that worked out. Okay, Uh, you

709
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: got Aaron Smith in the fourth. Edwards was good the rookie, though,

710
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: I remember he led the team in receptions, kind.

711
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: Of by default. They need a receiver bad.

712
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: But you got Joey Porter and Aaron Smith in the

713
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: third and fourth rounds. You got Jeremy Tooman in the fifth,

714
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: Chris Brown the kicker in the seventh round. At least

715
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: you hit on your kicker too. Yeah, but you get

716
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 2: Porter and again you got four guys in that draft

717
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: who played more than one hundred career games.

718
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 3: Porter and Smith are stalwart defensive. Yeah.

719
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: Ninety eight draft, Alan Fanica huge, Jeremy Stott. Okay, that

720
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: didn't work out, Chris Conrad in the third, but then

721
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: he took kinz Ward.

722
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: Wow.

723
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Then in the fourth round you took to Shaye Townsend.

724
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: Think about that. I mean they got Ward and Fanica

725
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: one year on offense and then Porter and Smith the

726
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: next year on defense. Like not only they good start.

727
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: I mean they're high, high end start.

728
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: Fifth round, they got Jason Simmons who played a long time,

729
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: Chris Fuamatu Maalafala in the sixth round.

730
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: It was useful.

731
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 2: Those were useful guys.

732
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 3: Just looking.

733
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what I would rank again that.

734
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: So a couple of those earlier drafts that we just

735
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: talked about might be the ones that you look at

736
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: and say, that's.

737
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: They're some of the best ones in Yeah, our history

738
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: for sure. This one was.

739
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: Ninety two Leon Searcy, high quality player, Levon Kirkland, Yeah,

740
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: at thirty eight. Then you got Joel Steed at sixty seven.

741
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: He was I mean that's three big hits.

742
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: Charles Davenport and not so much Alan Hallard, not so much,

743
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: Russ Campbell, Scottie Graham in the seventh round. But then

744
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: the eighth round, which doesn't even exist anymore, you got

745
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: Darren Perry.

746
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: Wow, okay it starter, big time starting.

747
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then in the eleventh round, Wow, Kendall Gammon

748
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 2: long snapper, long start, the first long snapper in Steelers history.

749
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: Wow.

750
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: But she didn't know that. Right before that their money,

751
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: like the centers did the line did it?

752
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: And yeah, kind of loop on back and right. Yeah.

753
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: Wow, I think that's a good start to that draft. Wow,

754
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 2: go to that eighty seven draft. That would be in

755
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: the consideration. Rob Woodson, No, that's pretty nigh start. Delton Hall, okay,

756
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: and that that's when they went d bat crazy, right,

757
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 2: Charles Lockett not so much. Thomas Everett was a really

758
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: good player. Yeah, Hardy Nickerson.

759
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 3: Also really good player. That's three of I mean Hall

760
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: was a starter. That's four defensive starters in the Hall

761
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 3: of Famer.

762
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: Tim Johnson in round six he played at Jim Johnson

763
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: played one hundred and forty six career games. They weren't

764
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: all for the Steelers, but he played one hundred and

765
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 2: forty six career games most time.

766
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

767
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: Also in the sixth round, Greg Lloyd, Wow, that's one

768
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: of the best drafts they've ever had. Yeah, I'm just

769
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: looking at the whole defense. And in the tenth round

770
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 2: they took some guy named Merril Hodge. Oh wow, that's

771
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: a pretty strong draft. That's that's how you number two.

772
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 2: That's how you turn your team around from I mean

773
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 2: they were bad in the mid eighties.

774
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, bad, and four defensive starters around them.

775
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: By the way, somebody asked yesterday on on our Questions

776
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: if they'd ever drafted to had two first round draft picks. Yes,

777
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: the other player was forgettable because it was Tim Worley

778
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: seven one, and that was a great draft.

779
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 3: That was eightman Mandridge Dion.

780
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: They took Whorley seven Rickets, Ricketts twenty fourth, Carnal Lake

781
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: thirty fourth. So they had three. They had three of

782
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: the top thirty four picks, and the only guy that

783
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: was a star was Cardinal Lake. Uh. Then they filed

784
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 2: who else in that draft? They got Gerald Williams jeral

785
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: Is Bill Tomlin or Bill Tomlin, Bill Cower always just

786
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: to call him Gerald with a J because you had

787
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 2: the difference. Yea Gerld Williams as well with a D tackle.

788
00:35:59,560 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

789
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: You also got DJ Johnson, the cornerback out of that one.

790
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: Okay, that's not bad.

791
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 2: He was a seventh round pick, and then in the

792
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: tenth round Jerry Olsavski.

793
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so I get kick out of these eighth

794
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 3: rounds and later dudes. Yeah, those guys are undrafted free

795
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: agents now yeah, yeah, but there's a few of them

796
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: that were very worth more than a few. Yeah.

797
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: You could you could dig through this and find all

798
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: kinds of guys who got drafted in the eighth round or.

799
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: Later than most thing, And what if we were on

800
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: the air in the tenth.

801
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: I mean I covered drafts. My first full draft was

802
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 2: in ninety three, and there were at least eight rounds

803
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: if I remember correct. Well, let me see here. Yeah,

804
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: that eighty three draft or ninety three drafts I should

805
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: say was at least eight rounds deep. Yeah, because Alex

806
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 2: van Pelt was the eighth round draft pick. The year

807
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 2: before that was twelve and they'd cut it back to eight.

808
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 3: Wow, okay, but like Van Pelt's a good pick. Yeah,

809
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: I mean it's get backup quarterback. The eighth round did

810
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: last forever? Yeah, that's not bad. Yeah, interesting now, but

811
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 3: I urge people, just if you look at draft classes,

812
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: be excited about this one, be excited about last one.

813
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of those names are pretty forgettable.

814
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 3: It's hard to stick.

815
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 2: If they last. So the average NFL career is two years.

816
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, two.

817
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: If you get four years out of a draft pick,

818
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: you've beat the odds.

819
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Really, I mean, in like today's NFL, the way

820
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 3: it's structured, if it's a fourth round picker later and

821
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: you get all four years out of them, and then

822
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: they go on their merry way.

823
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: And maybe you get Dan. That's why Dan Moore was

824
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: not only a good pick. Dan Moore is a home run.

825
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: Well, he yielded you something they got.

826
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: They got four years out of him as a starter,

827
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: and he's gonna net them a third round compensatory pick.

828
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

829
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 2: Kelvin Beacham was a home run in the seventh round

830
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: because not only did you get the starting out of him,

831
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 2: he he netted you a third round draft pick that

832
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: you turned into James Connor.

833
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

834
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: Those are home runs. Those aren't even like doubles off

835
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,240
Speaker 2: the fence, russ or home runs.

836
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 3: Those are when you're shortstop. It doesn't have any power. Yeah,

837
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: it's one out of the building.

838
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah right, that's Bill Mazerowski winning the World Series for.

839
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 3: It, right, your eighth hitter that you're catcher that can't

840
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 3: hit a lick.

841
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're late hitting second basement, second basement, and wins

842
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 2: the World Series for you with the home run. Yeah,

843
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 2: against the Angus.

844
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 3: It is right, that's a gift that keeps on giving, right.

845
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyways, just an interesting look at the look back there.

846
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: Let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

847
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly. We'll be back with more right after this.

848
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: In the least, he's the drive with Dale Lolly and

849
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of

850
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: the Black and Gold car Steelers Nation Radio.

851
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the

852
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt on the NFL dot com. And

853
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: we've talked about this a lot. We talked about it

854
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 2: a lot leading up to the draft. Lands zeer Line

855
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: put together a piece here talking about the compensatory selections

856
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: for next year. Oh kind of laid it at There's

857
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: only two teams right now slated to get four picks.

858
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 2: Are the Niners the other No, the Ravens. They're always

859
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: in the mix. But here's the thing. All compensatory picks

860
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 2: are not equal.

861
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 3: No, I don't say so.

862
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 2: The Steelers, as we know, are going to get are

863
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: in line to get four compensatory picks next year, one

864
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: and the third one, and the fourth one, and the

865
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: fifth and one and the sixth.

866
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: Yes, and correct me if I'm wrong. If Wilson or

867
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 3: Fields could turn into it, they.

868
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: Could go well, I don't know I don't know if

869
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: Wilson can turn into a third, because right now he's

870
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: a five. He might be able to bump to a

871
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: four based on playing time in the production, if he

872
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: makes a Pro Bowl again, stuff like that.

873
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 3: But the Ravens, you should have three, four, five and six. Yeah.

874
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 2: The Ravens right now also slated to get four, which

875
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: in theory sounds great. Yeah, but two are in the

876
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: fifth and two in the seventh. I think they had

877
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: five six round picks this year. Yeah, yeah, which is great.

878
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: I mean against one, but it's not the same as

879
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: the third. It's not the same. They both have four

880
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: compensatory picks, but one has a third and a fourth

881
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: the other one has two fifths.

882
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, there's there's an arc to it.

883
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 3: And yes, it's great that the Steelers are really dipping

884
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: their toe in this.

885
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: The Jets are projected to have three, one in round four,

886
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: two and round seven. That doesn't do you much. No,

887
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: the Eagles, like the Steelers, they have three one and

888
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 2: the third one and the fourth one and the fifth.

889
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: That's soon, right, Milton Williams, Yeah, Milton Williams, Josh Wet,

890
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 2: Makai Beckton, Isaiah Rodgers, all left and they were The

891
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 2: only guy they added was Azizo Julari.

892
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 3: Wow.

893
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers, they lost a lot. They only

894
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: got three compics out of it, two in the fourth

895
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: and one in the fifth.

896
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: Okay, so wet walked out the door though.

897
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Teams with two picks the Broncos, but they're both

898
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: in round seven.

899
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're nice flyers, but you might be able to You.

900
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 2: Can't even like swap those now for Hey, we need

901
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: a veteran tight end. Right, you don't have them yet.

902
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 3: You can't even use them for that sea right right,

903
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: the guy that's a big cap.

904
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: The Lions have two, one in round three, Carlton Davis

905
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 2: and Kevin Zeitler. One in round seven.

906
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay.

907
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: The Colts have two, both in round seven. Yuck. The

908
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 2: Vikings have two, one in round three, one in round five.

909
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 3: O god, that's nice. Yeah, I mean they have not.

910
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: That might be why they just looked at and said,

911
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: you know what, we're not gonna make a huge move,

912
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: make a huge move to get a bunch of picks

913
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: this year, because we know we're going to get a

914
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: bunch of premium picks next year.

915
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: They've been really light on Day two picks.

916
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: Last few drafts, teams projected to get one compensatory pick.

917
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: The Bears in round seven, it's a little something, the

918
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: Bengals in round seven, Cowboys in round five, bad, the

919
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: Chiefs round seven. The Raiders are going to get one

920
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: in round four.

921
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 3: That that it's not even many round three picks going.

922
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: No, the Rams are going to get an extra seventh

923
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: round pick. The Saints are going to get an extra

924
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: fourth round pick.

925
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: That's big for them.

926
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.

927
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 3: That's it, right.

928
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: So I think if you look at this, and I

929
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: don't care whether you're a Steeler fan or however you

930
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: want to look at it, the Steelers are coming out

931
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 2: of this with the most by.

932
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: Far, and more than like half the league combined.

933
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of teams, have any I think

934
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: the only team that's even close to them, maybe he's

935
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: the forty nine Ers who have two in the fourth

936
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: and one in the fifth.

937
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I say they've lost a lot, Okay, and maybe

938
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 3: in terms of.

939
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: The Eagles have value, the Eagles have a three to

940
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 2: four and a five.

941
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: That's nice.

942
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice. So really it's still the top three the Steelers, Eagles,

943
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: and forty nine Ers.

944
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: Like you much have a three, four and five then

945
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: all the Ravens picks. Yeah, of course. Wow. So and

946
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 3: again I do think there's a chance with the quarter

947
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 3: since their quarterbacks, they could play a lot of snaps

948
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 3: and bump up.

949
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. I again, Russell Wilson made the Pro Bowl this year. Yeah, no,

950
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: it was an alternate, but he if you extrap.

951
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: White understand the compic formula.

952
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: If you extrapolated Russell Wilson's season over the course of

953
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: a seventeen games seasons, he would have had twenty five

954
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 2: touchdown passes and eight interceptions.

955
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Would we take that next year from the Steelers

956
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 3: quarterback room, Yeah, yeah, you definitely would, right, absolutely.

957
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: So anyways, I just thought that was interesting and Lance

958
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: put it all, laid it all out there.

959
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: No Steelers are loaded with that.

960
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: They are, We've we talked about it.

961
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: Are they short eddy of their own? No? Or do

962
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 3: they have anyone's extras? No, okay, they have.

963
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: They have all their picks line eleven picks those in

964
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: additional four okay, that are subject to change, but you're

965
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: going to get four. Yeah, right, So it's not a

966
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: bad spot to be in.

967
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: It's a great spot for you. Yeah. So again, you

968
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: could trade a lot of your high stuff and then

969
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 3: just move around two thirds up to the second or whatever.

970
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: I mean. It gives me a lot of options.

971
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: You know what that was, Matt, That was part of

972
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: the play. The plan, right, the plan that everybody said,

973
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: not everybody, but a lot of people said they didn't

974
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: have no plan, no plan, right, just feeling their way

975
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: through this.

976
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: Letting Dan Moore go after four years of service part

977
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 3: of the plan. That was part of the plan, you know, right,

978
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 3: right right? Yeah, when you trade it or acquired both

979
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 3: those quarterbacks, you probably thought, well, one of them probably

980
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: won't be here, but.

981
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: If yeah, one of them will get something back.

982
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: For hopefully one's the best player in the planet. Yeah,

983
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 3: didn't work out that way, but now it didn't hurt yet.

984
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: You get two picks for him, and you get picks, right.

985
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: Part of the plan, Part of the plan. Plans next

986
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: year's Moxs are gonna be fun. That's often more than

987
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 3: what we have when we start this show. We rarely

988
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: have a plan today.

989
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, somehow we still find a way to get through it,

990
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 2: I hope in an interesting fashion.

991
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and again, if there's anyone that wants us

992
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 3: to have a new topic or whatever, throw it out anyways.

993
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: For my partner Matt Williamson, for CJ. Wolfley here on

994
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: site running the the soundboard over there making sure we

995
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 2: get out there and sound okay. And for Tyler Viittmarin

996
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: making sure our video gets up there onto YouTube. Give

997
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: us a thumbs up there. Have a great weekend everybody.

998
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lollie. We'll see you next week.