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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm Ken

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Speaker 2: Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo. A lot of busy time

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Speaker 1: Hi, Ken, it's always good to be with you on

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Speaker 2: And if you recall last year alone, I'm sure you do,

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Speaker 1: I could be in there, Ken. As far as National

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Speaker 1: Everybody should go back and wear the jersey of your team.

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Speaker 2: That to me is the test for the Pirates. Good

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Speaker 2: Mitch Keller too, alt he signed an extension recently as well.

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Speaker 1: I think they need to get some bats. I think

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Speaker 2: plan for the future. No, no, no, go get it now.

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Speaker 2: And yes, they could use a bat in a big way,

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Speaker 2: probably multiple bats. Pete Alonzo on that team and they

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Speaker 1: That would be incredible to see Pee Alonzo in Seattle,

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Speaker 1: I tell you what. And Jerry to Poto, there's nobody

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Speaker 1: the Lamas wants to know, Hey, Ken, who gets him?

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Speaker 2: I don't know who gets him? And it's always impossible

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Speaker 2: just mentioning that the White Socks are going to value

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Speaker 2: But it's going to be interesting because teams are going

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Speaker 1: And can you imagine what the White Sox fan base

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Speaker 2: To know Volpi is an interesting guy in this discussion,

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Speaker 2: So a few weeks ago, Alana I wrote about this,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a completely different tier. Not that Volpi is

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Speaker 1: and Dork of the Week. This is one of our

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Speaker 1: standout performers from the past week. So Ken, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: let you go first. Who is your dude?

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Speaker 2: My Dude of the week is a guy who would

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Speaker 2: never ask for such a reward, a guy who is

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Speaker 2: really underrated even though he's been around for a few

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Speaker 2: years now. And I'm talking about Phillies manager Rob Thompson.

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Speaker 2: Rob Thompson as a manager in his third season. Remember

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Speaker 2: the first year he came in and replaced Joe Girardi,

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Speaker 2: took the Phillies to the World Series. Last year again

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Speaker 2: had a great year, and then this year they are

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Speaker 2: one of the best teams in baseball, if not the best.

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Speaker 2: Right now, look at his winning percentage among AFGIVE active managers.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. Dave Roberts is the leader. I know Dodger

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Speaker 2: fans might be surprised to hear this.

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Speaker 1: David that amazing. They always want him to get fired.

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Speaker 2: And Dave Roberts leader in active winning percentage. I know

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Speaker 2: this is the regular season. You don't have to revive me.

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Speaker 2: Aaron Boon is second. Rob Thompson right behind him in third.

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Speaker 2: He's done a brilliant job with this team. They are

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Speaker 2: playing out of their minds. Again, a lot of credit

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Speaker 2: goes to the players. They have a single tough mindedness

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Speaker 2: about them that to me is a little bit unique

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Speaker 2: in the game today. But Thompson holds this whole thing together.

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Speaker 2: Under Joe Girardi, they weren't the same team. They weren't

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Speaker 2: the team that they are now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and two years ago, about a couple of days

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Speaker 1: ago is when Rob Thompson took over for Joe Girardi.

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Speaker 1: He had just had his two year anniversary as being

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Speaker 1: the Phillies manager. My dude of the week, it's actually

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Speaker 1: a fan base, and it's Rob Thompson's fan base, if

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Speaker 1: you will. The Philadelphia Phillies given Reese Hoskins, who thought

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Speaker 1: he was going to get booed in his reception returning

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Speaker 1: to Citizens Bank Park this time, of course as a

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Speaker 1: member of the Milwaukee Brewers, and the fans were awesome

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Speaker 1: to Reese Hoskins, obviously a big part of what the

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Speaker 1: Phillies have been able to accomplish over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of seasons. They gave him a standing ovation.

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Speaker 3: J T.

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Speaker 1: Rail Muto, of course doing the right thing, taking his

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Speaker 1: time so Reese Hoskins could tip his cap to the fans,

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Speaker 1: and then he hits a home run and some of

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Speaker 1: the fans, of course are like, well, damn it, he's

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Speaker 1: not on our team anymore. But you got to love

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Speaker 1: what Reese Hoskins did. So kudos to the Phillies. But

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Speaker 1: I ask you, Ken Rosenthal, a man that is from

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Speaker 1: the East Coast, what has happened to the Phillies fans?

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Speaker 1: Remember they gave Trey Turner a standing ovation when he

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Speaker 1: was in the slump, and now they're welcoming back form

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Speaker 1: or players. They had a four billion minute standing ovation

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Speaker 1: when Chase Uttley went back as a member of the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: What's going on, Alana?

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Speaker 2: I say this with loving respect. The Phillies fans have

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Speaker 2: gone soft in general, softer. Remember the Knicks fans came

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Speaker 2: down and dominated them in the NBA playoffs. I remember

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Speaker 2: back a long time ago along when I was in

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Speaker 2: college in Philadelphia. I was from New York. I drove

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Speaker 2: my orange Ford Grenada with New York plates into the

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Speaker 2: vet for a Giants Eagles game, a big one, and

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Speaker 2: people were throwing rocks at my car. That is the

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Speaker 2: Philly I remember. I'm not saying it's a better version

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Speaker 2: of Philly. This is a better version of Philly. But

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Speaker 2: things sure have changed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you what. Obviously it's very well known

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Speaker 1: I'm a Dodgers fan, but my second National League team

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Speaker 1: right now is in the Phillies. I'm obsessed with this club,

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Speaker 1: and I'm obsessed with their fan base. All Right, your

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Speaker 1: dork of the week, who is it? Actually it's more

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Speaker 1: than one guy.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's five guys. It's the five guys who were

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Speaker 2: suspended by Major League Baseball this week for betting on baseball. Now,

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Speaker 2: if there is one rule that every player should know,

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Speaker 2: one that's posted on the clubhouse in every Major League park,

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Speaker 2: in every clubhouse, visiting and home, it's Rule twenty one,

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Speaker 2: the one that forbids you from gambling on baseball. These

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Speaker 2: guys were doing it, and they not only were doing it,

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Speaker 2: they were doing it with a book maker that tracks

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Speaker 2: everything quite diligently. That book maker illegal one reported it

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Speaker 2: to Major League Baseball, and hence they were suspended. Michael Kelly,

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Speaker 2: A's pitcher, was suspended for betting less than one hundred dollars.

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Speaker 2: These guys put their careers in jeopardy to Coiped. Marcano,

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Speaker 2: of course, as banned for life because he bet on

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Speaker 2: his own team. It's a shame, obviously, but these guys

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Speaker 2: had to be smarter too.

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Speaker 1: And Sal Frank pitched in the World Series last year

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Speaker 1: and he's banned for a year because of his activities.

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Speaker 1: It's not even the dollar amount, it's just the idiocy

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Speaker 1: of the whole process. You know, if you want to

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Speaker 1: bet on basketball or football, knock yourself out. But you

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Speaker 1: can't bet on your own sport. My dork of the

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Speaker 1: week it has to be the A's And I feel

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Speaker 1: like again we should categorize this category as the A's

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Speaker 1: dork of the week once again. Now they're going, of course,

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Speaker 1: to Sacramento, and now they have a bright idea that

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Speaker 1: they want ten percent of their home games to be

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Speaker 1: away from their own home field. What are they trying

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Speaker 1: to do here, Ken, It's already bad enough that you

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Speaker 1: take them out of Oakland. Oakland fans don't have any

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Speaker 1: professional sports teams left for the most part, and you're saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're going to play in Sacramento. Now we're going to

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Speaker 1: try to create this fan base before we go to Vegas.

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Speaker 1: If that's the fact even going to happen. But ten

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Speaker 1: percent of our home names are going to be on

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Speaker 1: the road.

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Speaker 2: They want the flexibility to do that. I don't know

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Speaker 2: that they would use all eight dates in that fashion. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's fine, but you're going into a new market. A

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Speaker 2: new market that I know this might shock the A's

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Speaker 2: people is not necessarily going to be receptive to their act.

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Speaker 2: So if you're doing that, maybe you low key it

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Speaker 2: a little bit. Maybe you don't ask for the maximum

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Speaker 2: number of dates or an excessive number of neutral site dates.

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Speaker 2: You say, okay, we'll do that over time. But the A's,

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Speaker 2: as usual, their tone deaf approach is quite something. It

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Speaker 2: is something that never ceases to amaze. And while I

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Speaker 2: don't know that this is actual big deal, it certainly

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Speaker 2: comes off as a big deal and it's another misstep

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Speaker 2: by organization that seems to have missteps. Oh, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: once a week or so.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest point. If another team does this,

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Speaker 1: you don't give it as much credence. But when the

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Speaker 1: A's continue to make these very peculiar choices, it's just

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Speaker 1: a pattern of something where you're like, why do they

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Speaker 1: keep making these dumb mistakes, these dumb choices. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the fan base has got to be like enough already,

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Speaker 1: but again they're probably not surprised. Time out for a

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Speaker 1: super chat regarding Jerry Ryan's Dwarf. We're going to bring

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Speaker 1: that up here as we continue with FL Territory Referee

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Speaker 1: five eighty three. Thanks for being a part of this, Ken,

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Speaker 1: what's your thoughts on White Sox owner? Obviously Jerry Reinsdorf,

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Speaker 1: He's killing his franchise and making fans hate the Chicago

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Speaker 1: White Sox like the A's.

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Speaker 2: I hear this a lot, and I hear it for

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Speaker 2: understandable reasons. And I wrote a column this week about

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Speaker 2: Pedro Graffal and how probably he is running out of time.

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Speaker 2: That's true, but we all know the problem with the

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Speaker 2: White Sox doesn't start with the manager. It doesn't even

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Speaker 2: start with the new general manager, though he was farm

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Speaker 2: director for a time, Chris Getz and is part of

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Speaker 2: this organization. It's Jerry Reinsdorf and the way he has

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Speaker 2: run this team, and he routinely angers fans with the

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Speaker 2: way he runs this team. He's asking for a new

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Speaker 2: stadium now, which is kind of galling considering the way

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Speaker 2: that they've been playing. So yeah, it starts at the top.

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. They've had a lot of

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Speaker 2: things go wrong that are out of his control, the injuries,

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Speaker 2: for example, But it's just the way these teams have

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Speaker 2: been put together. It's the management that, for whatever reason,

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Speaker 2: could not get it together before gets Rakhan and Kenny Williams.

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Speaker 2: They just lost their way, it seemed. So yes, Reinsdorf

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Speaker 2: is responsible, There is no question about that. And any

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Speaker 2: fan frustration with him is entirely, entirely understandable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, entirely warranted. Is Jerry Reinsdorf loyal to a fault?

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Speaker 1: Sometimes he's guys on too long?

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Speaker 2: Well, And I'm glad you make that point, because we

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Speaker 2: have seen that time and time again with him, and

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Speaker 2: it's his greatest quest. Really, his employees generally swear by him.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, as with all of us, your

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Speaker 2: greatest quality and your greatest strength can be your greatest

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Speaker 2: weakness as well, and at times it has been a weakness.

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Speaker 2: The hiring rehiring of Tony LaRussa in retrospect was a mistake.

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Speaker 2: Staying too long with Rick Han and Kenny Williams probably

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Speaker 2: a mistake, even though those guys are not bad baseball people.

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Speaker 2: It's just a pattern here and it's not a good

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Speaker 2: one they need, I thought, and aj Prisinski made this

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Speaker 2: point on foul Territory at the time. Instead of Chris Gets,

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Speaker 2: who might prove to be a very good GM, they

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Speaker 2: needed an outside voice, bring in someone else with fresh ideas,

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Speaker 2: kind of start over. Now Gets is doing that in

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Speaker 2: his own way, and again he might prove very good.

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Speaker 2: But they promoted from within and at a time when

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Speaker 2: they needed to seek outside help.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the Colorado Rockies are a lot the

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Speaker 1: same way. They promote a lot from within and are

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Speaker 1: loyal to a fault. Let's it for us here on

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Speaker 1: Fair Territory. Of course, Ken is back by himself with

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Speaker 1: another episode of Fair Territory on Monday. Thanks everybody for

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Speaker 1: watching and listening. We always appreciate it. Welcome Seet Geek

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Speaker 1: to the fans. Subscribe on YouTube, apples, Spotify, wherever you

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Speaker 1: three pm Eastern, and of course Foul Territory is next

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Speaker 1: from Vegas. We'll see you then,