1 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Jason Tip Podcast. Thank you guys so 2 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: much for taking time out of your Wednesday to come 3 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: hang out talk some basketball with me. It's going to 4 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: be a busy end of the week for this podcast. 5 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: I did one on Monday with Alan Ramich. A lot 6 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: of you guys follow him, um, and we talked about 7 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff centering around Lebron's injury in the 8 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: trade deadline. I'm gonna dive a little bit deeper into 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: some of that stuff, but if you want to find 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: that podcast, it's under the Laker Side Chats, um, but 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: go to Alan Robins Twitter page and you can find 12 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: it there. Obviously, I'm doing this one today. UM. We're 13 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: gonna do kind of a mail bag thing and they 14 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: have a couple of smaller topics that I want to 15 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: touch on Tomorrow in immediately after the deadline. Tommy, you 16 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: guys know him, He's been on my show several times. 17 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: Him and I are gonna go live just to do 18 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: immediate reactions to the trade deadline, and then, as is 19 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: usually the case, on Friday morning with Raj, we'll do 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: a Lakers focused one with him as well, But just 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: stay tuned for those. So one each of the next 22 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: three days. Like I said today, I have sent out 23 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: a tweet and that's where I got most of these 24 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: questions from. But for any of you guys that are listening, 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: if you want to drop more questions in the comments, 26 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: if we have time at the end, I'll get to 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: those before we go. I also think I found a 28 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: solution from my WiFi problems. Um. Fortunately, Verizon has very 29 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: good service where I live now, and so I'm hot 30 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: spotting off my phone and it appears to be working 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: for right now. I worked really well with Alan the 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: other day. I appreciate UH you guys bearing with me 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: through that gigantic pain in the ass, and I understand 34 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: how frustrating it must bend for those of you who 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: did listen to UH to constantly see the cutouts, especially 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: in my end. But just know how much I appreciate 37 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: you guys be impatient with me for what I think 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: is a good solution right now. UM. Anyway, so I'm 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: gonna start with one of our questions from the mail 40 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: bag because it frames something that I've been wanting to 41 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: talk about a lot today. This question is from John, 42 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: and it was in your opinion, what realistic roster moves 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: should the Lakers make, if any. And before I answer 44 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: that question, I want to talk really quick about the 45 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: predicament that the Lakers are in, which is basically that 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: they're going to get their ass kicked a whole lot 47 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: over the course of the next few weeks. If you 48 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: look at their schedule, there are a handful of games 49 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: in there. There's one with Orlando, there's one with Cleveland, 50 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 1: there's one with Toronto, who may is after the deadline, 51 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: who they may or may not ship off some of 52 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: their best players. Uh. And then I think there's one 53 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: more on there that like looks legitimately winnable. I think 54 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: it's against the Sacramento Kings. But the reality is they're 55 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: going to take a lot of losses here over the 56 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, and it's extremely likely that they 57 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: fall at least to extend the standings, if not lower 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: if Dallas gets going. I'm not super worried about the 59 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: San Antonio Spurs if they have a ridiculous schedule down 60 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: the stretch, they're extremely likely to to be behind the 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: Lakers still, but I think the Lakers could slip as 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: far as seventh uh and possibly worse depending on how 63 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: long Lebron and the d are out. But I think 64 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: that's okay. I think it's important to just acknowledge your 65 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: circumstanced and probably get uh and and probably get some uh, 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: some sort of long term strategy in place, mainly centered 67 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: around how do we win lower in the standings, And 68 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: it's it's not that big of a deal when you 69 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: acknowledge the fact that the West is freaking stacked, Like 70 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: if you look at the top eight teams, the only 71 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: team in there that's gonna be an easy first round 72 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: opponent is San Antonio. And if you look at san 73 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: antonio schedule, it's more likely than not that they're gonna 74 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: slip out of the top eight, and it's probably going 75 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: to be Golden State in my opinion that climbs up 76 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: in there, provided tailbone isn't gone for too long. But 77 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: because of San Antonio's ridiculous schedule, even your top two 78 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: seeds are gonna get Dallas or Golden States. So congrats, 79 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: you get seven games of Luca don Chich or seven 80 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: games of Steph Curry, who's a really really, really really 81 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: good playoff player who causes all sorts of problems in 82 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: a playoff series, and they've been cutting his minutes and 83 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: Draymond's minutes for most of the year, and those two 84 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: guys are gonna be playing all sorts of minutes in 85 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs. So there is no easy path. So, as 86 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: I said with Alan on Monday, just acknowledge it for 87 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: what it is. You were hoping for the two seed there, 88 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: you were hoping for the one seed. That would have 89 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: been great, but the way things broke out, it's probably 90 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. But at the end of the day, 91 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: the way you win the championships, you have the best team, 92 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: You're gonna have some complicated path along the way now, 93 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: but it was always going to be complicated. Now, instead 94 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: of getting Dallas in the first round and the Clippers 95 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: in the second round and the Sons are Jazz in 96 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: the third round, or the Sons and Jazz in the 97 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: second round and the Clippers in the third round, now 98 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: you're gonna get you know, I don't know Portland's in 99 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: the first round, or you might get you know, you 100 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: might actually play Phoenix or Utah in the first round, 101 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: but you were gonna have to beat them anyway. You 102 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: were going to have to beat the Clippers anyway, no 103 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: matter what Because of how good the top of the 104 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: West was, you were gonna have a tough path to 105 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: get out of the West. And now it's reorganized. And 106 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: as I said with Alan, the key there is if 107 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: you catch yourself against a team that you're clearly superior, 108 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: then you know it's gonna be a dog fight. Against 109 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: the Clippers, it may go six or seven games, but 110 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: you're better than Utah, You're better than Phoenix. Those are 111 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: the teams you gotta try to knock out in four 112 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: or five games so that you can get that three, 113 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: four or five day rest in between playoffs series to 114 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: make sure that you don't experience the long term wear 115 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 1: and tear. But really, unless you're in the Eastern Conference 116 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: where those you know, five, six, seven, eight seeds are 117 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: pretty weak, you're just you're gonna have a ridiculously difficult 118 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: playoff path. It's just the it's just the nature of 119 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: the way the league is right now with how much 120 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: talent there is, and home core advantage doesn't mean as 121 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: much as it used to because they're not going to 122 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: be twenty thousand fans at these playoff games. There's gonna 123 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: be like five thousand fans at these playoff games. My 124 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: guesses you'll have vaccinated fans sections that are closer to 125 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: the court. You will still have somewhat of an intense vibe, 126 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: but it's not going to be the same as usually is. 127 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: And Laker fans always travel extremely well anyway to begin with. 128 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: But I just so going back to the question, in 129 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: your opinion, what realistic roster moves should the Laker make? 130 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: The Lakers make. No moves that the Lakers make, whether 131 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: it's at the buyout market or at the trade deadline, 132 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: should be centered around anything other than what the team 133 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: will look like when Lebron and a d are playing, Because, 134 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: as I just said, you just need to own the 135 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: reality of your seating situation and understand that all that 136 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: matters is that we have enough horses to get through 137 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: these teams in a different order than we would have 138 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: gone through them if we were the two seeds. And 139 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: so from that standpoint, I just hope they don't do 140 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: anything stupid, like do some change of identity type of 141 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: trade or bring in some you know, like like this 142 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: is why I hate the Bogdanovitch trade, the one that 143 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: that people have talked about with the Atlanta Hawks doesn't 144 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: make any sense. To me to bring a guy in 145 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: who when Lebron and a d are back isn't going 146 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: to have that much of a purpose because Dennis Shuder 147 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: is gonna have the ball a lot, and Lebron's gonna 148 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: have the ball a lot, Anthony Davis is gonna have 149 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: the ball a lot, and you don't really need a 150 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: guy like Bogdanovitch who can run a lot of actions 151 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: and do a lot of stuff with the ball in 152 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: his hands. At that point, it's actually better for those 153 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: minutes to go to a K C P who's gonna 154 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: be a much better defensive player than Bogdanovitch is and 155 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: is going to succeed in his very very small role, 156 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: which is catching and shooting threes and attacking clothes outs 157 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: and things along those lines. So the answer to that 158 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: question is there's absolutely no reason to do anything that 159 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 1: has anything to do with this next couple of weeks stretch. 160 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: The Lakers are gonna suck no matter what. I'm sorry, 161 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: even if they bring Bogdanovitch in, it's probably not going 162 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: to change the fact that they're dropped into the six 163 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: or seven seed. That's the reality of their situation. It's 164 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: just time to own it and own the difficult playoff path. 165 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: All right, before I get to the rest of the 166 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: mail bag, this is the one other topic that I 167 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: wanted to touch on, and again for those of you listening, 168 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: if you want to drop more questions in the comments, 169 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: you're welcome to so really quickly on the Steve Kerr thing. 170 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: And this has been talked to death by a lot 171 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: of people, so I want to spend too much time 172 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: on it. But the important detail that I want to 173 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: talk about is just the role of the NBA media 174 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: and how the players shipped on them all the time 175 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: for lack of a better turn. So for starters. You know, 176 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: have you ever heard like when they talk about the 177 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: w n b A, they're like, we need more coverage 178 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: for the w n b A. You know, we need 179 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: we need more coverage for for you know, women's basketball 180 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: in the in college or whatever it is. Well, the 181 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: reason why they're asking for more coverage is because that 182 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: is what leads to exposure for the league. That's how 183 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: you generate new fans, that's how you gained over that's 184 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: how you you know, raise the overall profile of the league. 185 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: The reality is that the n b A is what 186 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: it is right now, in in part because of the 187 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: players now talented they are, but all so in part 188 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: of the storytellers, the people who are involved with covering 189 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: the league, making it widely accessible to everybody around the 190 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: globe and keeping the conversation about the league moving especially now, 191 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: Like you look at TV ratings, the league isn't doing 192 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: great on TV, but they're doing great in almost every 193 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: other area, social media engagement and just the amount of 194 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: people around the world that are talking about the NBA. 195 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: So the point is is that the that the NBA 196 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: leads uh serves the NBA media serves a clear purpose 197 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: that puts money in the players pockets. That's the harsh reality. 198 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: And what sucks is, you know, I believe the media 199 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: needs to be held accountable like any other organization. If 200 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: a member of the media does come out and openly 201 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: lie or openly twist words are very clearly take something 202 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: out of context, that person should get dragged. That person 203 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: should be reminded that they have a job and that 204 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: they're not doing their job, and if they it becomes 205 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: a repeat offense type of thing, that person should be disciplined. 206 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: I agree with that. However, the way that these players 207 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: and coaches treat every Remember, the media is as if 208 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: they're doing that all the time, which is not the case. 209 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: You know. A classic example is like Tim McMahon comes 210 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: out yesterday in a podcast and says like, I'm trying 211 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: to remember which player it was, but it was, Uh, 212 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: some player has made it known in the organization that 213 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: he that he wants that he wants to be traded, 214 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: and and then that player gets on Twitter and it's like, 215 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: I've never said anything like this in my life, and 216 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: it's like Tim McMahon is doing his job, Like he doesn't. 217 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 1: He doesn't have any purpose to throwing you under the 218 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: bus or making up a trade rumor from you. He's 219 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:39,719 Speaker 1: doing his job and you're better off not responding, or 220 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: if it's very clearly not true, providing some sort of 221 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: evidence or something along those lines. But this idea that 222 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: the first thing that every player coach jumps to do 223 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: is just take a giant ship on whoever it is 224 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: that that said this important thing that's part of their job, 225 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: that that gets annoying to me because it shows a 226 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: lack of respect for what those guys are doing, at 227 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: least the ones that are doing it right. There was 228 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: another one it was like, Kevin O'Connor is literally one 229 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: of the more respected, you know, young media professionals in 230 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: the business right now, and it's very well connected. Goes, 231 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: I have intel that you know that Tristan Thompson isn't 232 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: super well liked in the locker room. And Chris Vernon, 233 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: his co host, says the exact same thing, and he's 234 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: the one who actually brought it up all and all 235 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: he's saying is like, this is what I'm hearing. And 236 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: then here come all these guys from the Celtics like 237 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: saying that it's total b s. And it's like, actually, 238 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: we're watching you guys massively underachieve. These guys who have 239 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: their connections are asking people in the organization what's wrong. 240 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: They're getting intel, They're just sending the intel out to us, 241 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: the fans, so that we can digest that and make 242 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: our own opinion. And and and it way too often 243 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: you just see this absolute ridiculous, uh push back from 244 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: these guys. And this current thing was a great example 245 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: that the dru Shiller guy literally tweeted out exactly what 246 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr said in his podcast, even though he didn't 247 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: specifically mentioned Kevin Durant. If you listen to the podcast, 248 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: it's heavily, heavily, heavily heavily implied that he was very 249 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: clearly referencing the Kevin Durant free agency situation and the 250 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: impact that I had on the team. So just do 251 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: Kurd think we're stupid? Does he sit up there in 252 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: the in the press conference and just insult all of 253 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: our intelligence by pretending that's not what he was saying, 254 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: because that's very clearly what he was saying. That's all 255 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, is like I I to wrap this up 256 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: really quick. It's just frustrating to me that all of this, 257 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: all of the people out there that are doing their jobs, 258 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: and I'm not one of those guys. I'm just I'm 259 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: just talking. I'm literally just spewing bs out into the world. 260 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: These people are actually doing a very very clear, paid 261 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: for job, which is networking with these people that work 262 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: inside these organizations and and putting out information that they 263 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: find that they've vetted. Almost every one of these guys 264 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: when they say something, it's because they've heard it from 265 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: multiple people. And and I'm sick of those people. When 266 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: they do their job right, catching the short end of 267 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: the stick. And it's just part of this overall media 268 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: culture that I've complained about on or several times because 269 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm kind of a pessimist about it. Um, but I 270 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: just I feel bad. I feel bad for for those 271 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: for those people. Anyway, let's get to the let's get 272 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: to the mailbag. The The first question that I wanted 273 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: to get to, uh, was the question of whether or 274 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: not you trade tres if Drummond is for sure coming? 275 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: So if I have intel that Drummond is coming, and 276 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: that's so much more complicated than you know, Uh, Is 277 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: Drummond gonna sign with the Lakers if he gets bought out? 278 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: Because as we all know, there are so many you know, 279 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: owners out there, rich guys out there who are super finicky, 280 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: like the DUDO owns. The Atlanta Hawks. Could change his 281 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: mind tomorrow because he sees first take episode that comes 282 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: across his feed and it's Skip Bayliss, you know, bitching 283 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: about Andre Drummond signing with the Lakers and the Atlanta Hawks. 284 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: Guy could be screwed that or the not the Atlanta Hawks. 285 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: That Cleveland Cavaliers, you know, could their their front off. 286 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: This could be like screw that we're not buying him out. 287 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: You know that, that's how it goes. That's how these 288 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: that's how finicky these dudes are. And they're all super 289 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: you know, uptight, and they feel like the world's against him. 290 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: That's just kind of the way these guys are. And 291 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: so from that same point, like there's no point in 292 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: playing fantasy basketball, But if you have four shore intel 293 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: that Andre Drummond is coming, I would feel a lot 294 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: more comfortable trading Montrese Without Andre Drummond. You desperately need 295 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: montres So that's the fine line that you have to 296 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: walk there. Uh Now, from that standpoint, like I was 297 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: talking about earlier, I don't really believe in completely mixing 298 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: up the roster and the construct of the team, you know, 299 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: over a rough stretch that you're having with really bad 300 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: players on the floor. So I wouldn't trade Montrese unless 301 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: it was for a clear need when the team is 302 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: at full strength. And if you've heard me many times 303 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: on this podcast, I've talked about how I don't really 304 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: necessarily see that need anywhere except for was shooting in 305 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: the backcourt and guys that can defend, so guys it 306 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: would slot into the role of being in this elite 307 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: defense as a guard, but at the same time can 308 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: knock down shots better than some of the guys that 309 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: we've had. And so the name that comes to mind 310 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: for me is like a Norman Powell. If you feel 311 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: like you can get a Norman Powell, I trade Montrese Harrold. 312 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: If you feel like you can get a Victor Oladipo, 313 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: I trade Montrese Harrold because that solves a need. And 314 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: if you know that Drummond's coming, Yeah, I guess what. 315 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: You've got Marcus al and you got Andre Drummond, and 316 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: you got Anthony Davis, and you got Lebron James, and 317 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: you got mark Keith Morris. That's five guys that can 318 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: play front court minutes for you. Markie Morris has turned 319 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: into like an awesome post defender for the Lakers, something 320 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: that is a kind of a weapon for them in 321 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: that regard. So I don't really I don't really see 322 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: the point in trading Montrese unless you know Drummond. Drummond 323 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: is coming, and unless you can get a player that 324 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: upgrades the roster, specifically when they're back at full strength. 325 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it for anything other than that NAMI 326 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: Lakers player, not lebron a d that you really want 327 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: to keep at the deadline. So for me, this answer 328 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: is easy. It's contavious, callbo Pope that one. All of 329 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: you as are so frustrated with the one that you know, 330 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: a lot of my friends that are that are on 331 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: Lakers Twitter have complained about a lot in recent weeks, 332 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: and you know, there's a lot of reasons why people complain. 333 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: It's the same thing that that that It reminds me 334 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: of the complaining around j R. Smith after the two 335 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: thousand sixteen NBA Championship when he signed that big fat 336 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: contract with the with the Cavaliers, and it's the same 337 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: thing you're starting to hear with Dennis Shudder, with people 338 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: complaining like are we sure we want to pay this 339 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: guy twenty plus million? The Cavs did not want to 340 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: pay j R. Smith eighteen million a year coming after 341 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: two sixteen finals. No one in the league wanted to 342 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: pay JR. Smith eighteen million a year. However, that's the 343 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: price you pay to keep really good talent on board 344 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: long term when you're trying to compete for a title. 345 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: It's literally just part of the business. No, Dennis Shutter 346 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: is not a twenty million dollar a year guard, but 347 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: some crappy team out there will pay him, so he 348 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: will leave. So the only way to keep him on 349 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: and to keep and maintain the talent level on the 350 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: roster is to pay and his shredder and and the 351 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: same thing goes for KCP. What was way worse than 352 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: paying k c P the thirteen million a year or 353 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: whatever he's getting is to let him go for nothing, 354 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: and then you know, Dennis Shutter goes down with COVID 355 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: and now there's like no depth in the in the 356 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: in the backcourt, and you could have major problems. It's 357 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: it's it's overpaying to keep to keep the team together. 358 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: That's literally just part of the business. And there was 359 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: so much criticism throwing at Lebron when Tristan Thompson and 360 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: Jared Smith got paid. It so all Lebron's getting his 361 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: guys pay. Lebron's getting his guys paid. It's like, what 362 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: were the cast supposed to do? Let Tristan Thompson and 363 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: Jared Smith go would just be a really bad team. 364 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: This is the this Every team faces this problem, the 365 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: like I have to overpay this guy or some bad 366 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: team's gonna pay him, and then our team gets worse. 367 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: It's it's just the conundrum of the business, not the 368 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 1: good thing is And I talked about this a lot 369 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: with Raj on Friday. The way the league has changed 370 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 1: is these role players are getting two year deals now. 371 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: So it's a lot less of a problem now that 372 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: it used to be when a Jared Smith was getting 373 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: a word year deal or a three year deal. But 374 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: but nowadays, you you you sign your really really good 375 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: role player for two years fifteen million or two years 376 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: twenty million, and so that that's just kind of a 377 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: fifteen million a year, I mean, kind of like the 378 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: Danny Green contract is a good example of what I'm 379 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: talking about. But uh, I just I like, KCP makes 380 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: too much money, but you had to pay him in 381 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: order to bring him back. And the reality is is 382 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: he was never meant to be this guy who would 383 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: be a lead guard. When was the last time we 384 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: saw KCP extensively as a lead guard the two thousand eighteen, 385 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen Lakers, And he was bad. He was 386 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: the joke of the team. There's that famous clip of 387 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: him breaking that jump shot at the end of the game, 388 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: then Kobe walking his family out. You know, there's the 389 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: there's all sorts of famous clips of him taking you know, 390 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: really bad shots out of the flow of the offense, 391 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: because he's that's not his strength. His strength is not 392 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: being a lead guard. What he was really really good 393 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: at last year, and the reason why I thought he 394 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: was the third best Laker, was attacking closeouts in a 395 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: really simple offensive situation where he's just knocking down open 396 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: threes and beating guys off the dribble when they close out, 397 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: and then on the other end, just chasing guys off 398 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: the three point line, flying around in rotations and doing 399 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: his best as a point of attack defender. That's what 400 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 1: k CP does really well. Yes, you're overpaying him, but 401 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: he's really really good in that role. He's gonna look 402 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: really bad in the playoffs with Lebron and a D 403 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: are out, but that's just the natural order of things. 404 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: It's not it's not his strength. Lebron and a D 405 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: are probably going to be back. The Lakers in their 406 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: playoff run are going to look a lot more like 407 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: the Bubble Lakers, a better version of the Bubble Aakers 408 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: than they do now, and at that point, guys like 409 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: KCP are gonna look a lot better. Guys like Alex 410 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: Cruso are gonna look a lot better. All the guys 411 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: who've been playing out of their normal, you know, role 412 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: are gonna look a lot better. West Matthews is another 413 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: guy like Wes Matthews is gonna look like an old, 414 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: washed up guard for the next couple of weeks. Just 415 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: get ready for it. That's exactly what I'm expecting. A 416 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: lot of losses. KCP to look bad, West Matthews look bad, 417 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: Alex Caruso's deef ends to slip th h T to 418 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: make a boatload of mistakes, Dennis Shrewder to look like 419 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: he's not worth million. That that's going to be how 420 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: it looks for the next month, and then every last 421 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: one of those guys is going to go back to 422 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: looking like what they looked like earlier this year, you know, 423 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: perfect fits in their role. Once the food once the 424 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: food chain is reorganizing, Lebron and a d come back. 425 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: That's what I'm expecting. However, I would trade KCP for 426 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: another better guard. So if you can get a Norman Powell, 427 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: if you can get a Victor Oladipo, I would trade 428 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: KCP uh. The next question, how would I use Andre Drummond. 429 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: If the Lakers do get him to me, I'd use 430 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: him exactly like Dwight Howard. Um. Now, I wanted Dwight 431 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: Howard to start most of last year, and he did, 432 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: I think in a handful of playoff games if I 433 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: remember correctly. Um, after the Lakers finally got wise on 434 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: the Javaala McGee stuff. But you use him exactly like 435 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: Dwight Howard. You you tell him in a sit down 436 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: conference right at the beginning, you don't do it as 437 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: dramatically as they did with d White. With d White, 438 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: they threatened him with basically what a non guaranteed contract 439 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: and leaked all this stuff to the media that he 440 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: was on a short leash and basically just a bunch 441 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: of stuff about uh, you know, like you better be 442 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: careful Dwight. Like that was the way they treated Dwight, 443 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: And they're not gonna do that with Andre Drummond. But 444 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: you know, Lebron is gonna look him in the face, 445 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis is gonna look him in the face. Roblink 446 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: is gonna look him in the face and be like, look, man, 447 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: you want to win a championship. You know, we think 448 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: you're better than Dwight Howard. Do we think you're you know, 449 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: probably the best uh guy that we could possibly find 450 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: for this specific role, this rim running five, who's gonna 451 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: do absolutely nothing with the ball in his hands offensively, 452 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: but just get a boatload of rebounds. We're gonna funnel 453 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: all these guys to you. On defense, You're gonna get 454 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: a load of a load of blocks, and you're gonna 455 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: get a ton of a lob actions above the rim, 456 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: you know, from Dennis Shooter and Lebronx. That's the way 457 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: uh that you you see that position working out. Just 458 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: don't overcomplicate it. Let him do what he does best. 459 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: There's I think the Lakers let Damien Jones go because 460 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: they know they have good intel that Andre Drummond's coming. 461 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: That was the first good sign was them letting Damian 462 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: Jones go. How do you avoid scoring droughts without lebron 463 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: and a d Is it scheme related or is it 464 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: just a matter of them doing better? That's the next question. 465 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: So Frank Vogel is not an amazing offensive coach, that's true. Uh. 466 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: Even when they do run a lot of actions, it's 467 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: kind of like spamming specific you know actions that uh 468 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: that are really really simple. So for instance, like last year, 469 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: a lot they used to spam like Lebron and a 470 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: D at the elbow, Avery Bradley in the corner, you know, 471 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: dribble hand off to Avery Bradley, set a hit couple 472 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: of screens and try to get Avery Bradley with the 473 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: head of steam going to the rim or pulling up 474 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: from like ten ft, you know. Or they'll they'll spam 475 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: uh specific actions with like Dennis Shrewder and a D 476 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: down in the corner with Lebron passing the ball up top. 477 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: They spam that kind of stuff every once in a while. 478 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: But it's not super super sophisticated offense. That's never been 479 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: Frank Vogels strength now. But if you ask me, my 480 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: philosophy is in the NBA, super sophisticated offense is kind 481 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: of overrated. Uh, just in the sense that nine times 482 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: out of ten you play a really really good team 483 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: in the playoffs and none of that stuff works and 484 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: the game basically becomes about matchups. The Laker offense was 485 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: is built to succeed in the playoffs because they have 486 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: the matchups. That's the way that Laker of offense is built. 487 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's I think it's fair criticism to say, 488 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 1: if you were ranking NBA coaches in terms of just 489 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: their offensive acumen, Frank Vogel is not going to be 490 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: close to the top. That's true. However, how do you 491 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: avoid scoring drafts without Lebron a d You can't. I 492 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: could take Gregg Popovitch right now and put you know, 493 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: Steve Kerr on his staff, and all the great fensive 494 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: coaches in the league, Mike D'Antoni, get him in there, 495 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: get all these guys in there, and I could give 496 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: them a full training camp with that group of guys, 497 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: and they're still gonna lose. They just they don't have 498 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: enough offensive talent to consistently generate offense with this group. 499 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: So to me, you gotta acknowledge what the way the 500 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: team is put together. You know, Frank Vogel is a 501 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: defensive minded coach. This team is the best defense in 502 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: the league. Although that will probably slip with Ron and 503 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: a D out, this is the best defense in the league. 504 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: Their only hope at winning any games is to catch 505 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: a bad team or a team that's being super lazy 506 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: and lock them up defensively and just hang in there 507 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: and hope that Dennis Shrewder can generate enough offense down 508 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: the down at the end of the game. But the 509 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: truth is, like, let's say you lose by seventeen to 510 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Hawks. A really good offensive coach might bring 511 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: it from seventeen to twelve or something like that. But 512 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: it's just it's the whatever you're watching right now. Don't 513 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: over ink it, don't overthink it. That's never been Frank's 514 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: strength as a coach. It would not be enough to 515 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: make it work with this group anyway. I there's just 516 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 1: no way to avoid it. And I don't think it's 517 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: scheme related. I think it's talent related. This was a 518 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: fun one that I got. Why do Laker fans ship 519 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: on Rudy Gobert so much? So? First of all, Uh, 520 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: there's no point in denying the fact that there's a 521 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: massive like chasm that exists between like big market fans 522 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: and little market fans. Just part of a small market 523 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: fans is just part of the deal. The thing with 524 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert that drives everyone nuts is, as is always 525 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: the case, there are people in his corner that, uh 526 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: resort to hyperbole when they're describing him. Who is that guy? 527 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: Chris Mannix, which just said that he should be in 528 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: the MVP conversation. You know, Rudy Gobert is what Rudy 529 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: Gobert is. He is the very very very very very 530 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: very very very best possible version of that Andre d 531 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 1: and Roll or that that role that the Lakers need 532 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: so bad, the role that the Rockets used for so 533 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: long in Houston. Just a rim protecting big who can 534 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: do pretty well and switches and then on offense is 535 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: just a screen and run to the rim type of guy. 536 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: But he doesn't do anything else. He doesn't do anything else, 537 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: and so it drives everyone else nuts. And this is 538 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: not just a Laker fan thing, this is everybody thing. 539 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: What drives everyone else nuts is he keeps getting compared 540 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: to guys like Anthony Davis, gets compared to guys that 541 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: are m VP candidates and put in the same tier 542 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: as them when he has absolutely no business being in 543 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: that tier. Guess what biased Anthony Davis to take Rudy 544 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: Gobert spot right now on the Jazz into never ever, ever, ever, ever, 545 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: ever ever take an isolation possession and too strictly just 546 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: set screens and and and roll to the rim and 547 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: do all of that stuff. Anthony Davis would be better 548 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: than Rudy Gobert that right now, Okay, he would. He 549 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: just doesn't have the energy for all that stuff because 550 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: he is a very very very good offensive player that 551 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: has leaned on for a lot of offensive responsibilities that 552 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert isn't asked to do. And then you couple 553 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: that with guys saying that like John Oliver and Chris Mannix. 554 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: That's saying he should be in the MVP conversation, like 555 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: the uh, the the screen assists tribe that are constantly 556 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: trying to come up with fake ways to add a 557 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: ton of value to what he does on a basketball court. 558 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 1: It's annoying. It's annoying. I like Rudy Gobert. I think 559 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: he's a really good player. But and half of it's 560 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: fun like that. Half of that that's people taking stuff 561 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: on Twitter too. Personally. We're all just having fun. We're 562 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: talking trash. It's like, you know, it's like my guy Damon, 563 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: he's always making jokes about about the Celtics. He doesn't 564 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: actually hate the Celtics. He doesn't actually dislike any of 565 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: those guys. Were just having fun and stop taking it personally, 566 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: none of this is important. None of this literally manner 567 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: matters at all in the grand scheme of things. So 568 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: there's just there's no point in taking it like that. 569 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: But yeah, of course we we make fun of Rudy 570 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: Gobert because he's overrated by his crazy fans and they 571 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 1: make up fake reasons why he's good at basketball. It's 572 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: really that simple. Do I think the Lakers can squeeze 573 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,959 Speaker 1: one more title with Lebron and a d I think 574 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: they can squeeze a few more um. The reason why simple, 575 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: They're a really, really good defensive team. Anthony Davis showed 576 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: clear signs before the bubble last year in the bubble 577 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: last year at the beginning of the season while he 578 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: was healthy, of making significant improvements as a jump shooter, 579 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 1: especially off the dribble, and he started to show some 580 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: approvement after the very beginning of this year as a passer. Now, 581 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff is natural. He's never gonna 582 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: become a Lebron or Yokich. That's that's not in his DNA, 583 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: but him becoming like kind of like with Kauais, the 584 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: transformation Kauai has gone through over the last few years, 585 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: making the leap from a horrible a passer to a 586 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: pastor that can make basic reads every time they're open. 587 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: At is the difference between him being the seventh or 588 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: eight best player in the world and being the second 589 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: or third best player in the world. Anthony Davis with 590 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: that crazy midrange scoring game that he has shown extensively 591 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: when he's healthy, and his ability to become just an 592 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: average playmaker, that's that makes him the second or third 593 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: best player in the league, and he'll be the second best, 594 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: second or third best player in the league for what 595 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: the next four or five years. So why in the 596 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: world can't the Lakers win a couple more titles, especially 597 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: since you know, if as all you need is Anthony 598 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: Davis's improvement to be linear with Lebron's decline, which it 599 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: should be provided neither of them suffer a major injury, 600 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: and then a couple that with Frank Vogel in a really, 601 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: really good defense, there's no reason in the world why 602 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: the Lakers should not be able to squeeze out another 603 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: title or two, especially when you factor in l a 604 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: is a buyout destination everything else along those lines. You know, 605 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: one of the questions that I got earlier was like, 606 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: is this Uh, it was actually in my list. Is 607 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: this a lost year for the Lebron and a d Era, 608 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: Not at all. It's a more difficult year. You know, 609 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: you always want things to go a certain way during 610 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: the regular season, smoothly, Like last year was a smooth 611 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: year for the Lakers. They started twenty eight and three. 612 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: It's a smooth year. Uh, But you know, like it 613 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: sometimes it's not a smooth year. Look at two thousand 614 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: sixteen with the Calves. They fired their coach halfway through 615 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: the season. You know, there was Lebron was like openly 616 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: if you read that book about that year, Lebron was 617 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: doing all sorts of passive aggressive stuff with management to 618 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: try to signal to them that he wanted a coaching change. 619 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: You know. Uh, Kyrie Irving missed the first chunk of 620 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: the year because his kneecap was still healing from what 621 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: happened in the two thousand fifteen finals, But they hoisted 622 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: the trophy at the end. You know what makes it 623 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a little bit tougher path, but that doesn't 624 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: mean that you're thrown out. It will become a lost 625 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: year for Lebron and a d if one of them 626 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: gets hurt and the or if a D is clearly 627 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: of himself in the playoffs. But even if a D 628 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: sixty of himself in the playoffs, that's a really good 629 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: team that has a good chance to win the title. 630 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: You know, it would be harder, but if they have 631 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: a good chance, so it's not a last year, and 632 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: I absolutely think they can get a couple more titles. 633 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: You just need Lebron to decline at a slower rate 634 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: than a D s improving. You need to keep up 635 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: the defensive intensity. That can be done by Frank Vogel 636 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: and his staff, and that could be done from the leaders, 637 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: and that could be done by cycling out some of 638 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: these role players to keep getting keeping, to get keeping 639 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: fresh blood coming in. You know, I think we all 640 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: expected the Laker defense to take a step back this 641 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: year and it didn't, and in large part, in my opinion, 642 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: that is because of Dennis Shooter. H Dennis Shooter came 643 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: in fresh blood, UH wants to win a title and 644 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: super super competitive, dude. And the the easiest way to 645 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: get your defense going is to have a really good 646 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: guy at the point of attack. It's what Avery Bradley 647 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: did for the Lakers last year. If you get someone 648 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: who's getting into guys up and down the floor, you 649 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: know it just it fires everyone up and gets everyone 650 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: to play defense better. But that's what you do. You 651 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: just keep bringing in fresh blood and and you keep 652 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: maintaining the identity of the team. There's no reason in 653 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: the world but they can't get a couple more. Last 654 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: one and then I'll get to the comments that are 655 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: in this threat here on the livestream sleep or buy 656 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: out candidates for the Lakers, not counting Andre Drummond. So 657 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: the first one that came to my mind is jj Reddick. 658 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: I say he's a massive sleeper candidate because he's a 659 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: long shot, because if you've listened to any of his 660 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: podcasts or anything that he has said, he very very 661 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: much wants to stay close to Brooklyn Um. But let's 662 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: say Brooklyn can't sign him in Philly can't sign him, 663 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: and let's say he wants to contend and he doesn't 664 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: want to go to the Knicks like Los Angeles is 665 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: an example of of if you're gonna be far away 666 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: from home, you can't pick up better place to go. 667 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: He loves wine, he loves eating out, he loves all 668 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: of those things. If you listen to his podcast, he 669 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: talks about a lot of this stuff. There's no better 670 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: place for him than l A in that regard, and 671 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: in my opinion, the Lakers, if there's one thing that 672 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: they can do to upgrade, it's shooting. And you know, 673 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: JJ Reddick is a bad matchup guard Defensively, He's a 674 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: guy that you can take advantage of an individual matchups, 675 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: but the Lakers are so good at doubling and recovering. 676 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: And JJ is an effort guy who's got a really 677 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: really good motor, who's very quick. He's you know, you 678 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: think of him in the sense that he's running around 679 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: off the ball and catching shoot situations. He's the kind 680 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: of guy that if you asked him to sprint around 681 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: in rotations and just kind of be in the right 682 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: spot defensively, he can make plays in that regard. And 683 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: as is always the case, like we saw with the 684 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: Warriors in two thousand fifteen and two thousand and sixteen, 685 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: when you have a guard who's a weak spot defensively, 686 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: as long as you surround him with good defensive talent, 687 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: it can it can still work out. And so um JJ. 688 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: If JJ Reddick is playing minutes with Alex Caruso, and 689 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: you know Lebron James and Anthony Davis and and Kyle 690 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: Kuzma and good defensive players from the Lakers. I still 691 00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: think that he's capable of of being, you ow, an 692 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: effective defensive player. And then talk about his spacing weapon 693 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: to talk about a dribble handoff thing that he can do. 694 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: He runs all sorts of dribble handoff stuff with Zion 695 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: now when he is playing, although he hasn't been playing lately. Um, 696 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: but I really like uh J J. Reddick. The other 697 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: thing I said is keep an eye on guys who 698 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: don't get traded, who are on bad teams or are 699 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: have communicated that they want to get traded. The two 700 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: names I wrote down are George Hill and LaMarcus Aldridge. 701 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: If no one makes a trade for George Hill, there's 702 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: a good chance that Oklahoma City buys him out. Um, 703 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: just because of the their history in the last few 704 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: years of taking care of the veteran players on their 705 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: roster that get that they pick up in these trades. 706 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: UH think like Paul George, think like Chris Paul. These 707 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: guys that come in there, they they move them where 708 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: they want to go. UM. The other name I put 709 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: down was LaMarcus Aldridge. He very clearly is on the 710 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: trade block and he is so basically away from the team. 711 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: So if for whatever a reason, trades don't materialize from 712 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: LaMarcus Aldridge, there's an opportunity there for the Lakers to 713 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: potentially pick him up as a buyout candidate. I actually 714 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: like LaMarcus Aldridge better than Andre Drummond. A lot of 715 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: people would disagree with me in that regard. He's not 716 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: the same defensive player, but spacing is such a premium 717 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: for these Lakers, and in spot minutes where like, because 718 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: you gotta think in the playoffs, it's gonna be a 719 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: lot of Lebron and a Dye in the front court, 720 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 1: a lot of them at the four and five, and 721 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 1: so having a guy like LaMarcus Aldridge for ten fifteen 722 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: minutes a night to just knock down open threes is 723 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: a serious weapon. And if for whatever reason it doesn't 724 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: work out with Andre Drummond, that that's a name that 725 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,959 Speaker 1: that I would keep an eye on. All right, let's see, 726 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through the questions here in the livestream. 727 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,439 Speaker 1: If you guys have any more, drop him in the feed. 728 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: Thoughts on vogels approach on offense with a d and 729 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: brawn out way too many scoring droughts this season. I 730 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: think I might have directly already answered this question. So 731 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: if you go early in the stream, quick recap is 732 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: just Vogel is not a great offensive coach, But a 733 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: great offensive coach isn't gonna fix this problem. If they 734 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: ran all the best stuff in the world, they might 735 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: have stretches earlier in the game where it works out, 736 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: but as soon as the game got serious, any of 737 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: these good defenses they're playing are just gonna shut all 738 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: that stuff off. How do you feel abou Drummond against 739 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: a team like the Nets, he'd make a difference. So, um, 740 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: the thing with I've talked about this at length. The 741 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: way you beat the Nets, it's really simple. You bank 742 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: on the fact that over a seven game series, kind 743 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 1: of like what the Calves did to the two thousand 744 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: sixteen Warriors. You bank on the fact that over a 745 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: seven game series you will wear out their offensive players 746 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: and they'll start me some shots. And they're not gonna 747 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: wear each other out on offense because there's three of 748 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: them and they can take turns. It's not gonna be 749 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: like Braun shooting, you know, seven shots of game and 750 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: running all of the actions and getting tired by the 751 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: end of the same thing. James Harden in Houston, it's 752 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: gonna be James and Kyrie, James and Katie, Katie and Kyrie, 753 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: everything staggered. They're taking turns, They're gonna run actions for 754 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: Joe Harris flying off the screens every once in a while. 755 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: There's just not gonna be a whole lot of fatigue 756 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 1: from them offensively, so you have to put the fatigue 757 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: on them defensively. And the way you do that is 758 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: being physically aggressive. Like I would never pick a team 759 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: like the Clippers against the Nets. I think that I 760 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: think the Nets would destroy the Clippers. And the reason 761 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: why is is there they're a finesse team. They have 762 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: the ability to put some pressure on you defensively with 763 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: their length, but on offense they settle for a boatload 764 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: of jump shots and they don't put any pressure on 765 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: the rim. A group like Lebron a d and Andre 766 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: Drummond would put a ridiculous amount of pressure on the 767 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: rim physically through offensive rebounding, through bullyball from Lebron, you know, 768 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: through Anthony Davison his post up game through Dennis Shuder 769 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 1: attacking from the perimeter. It's gonna be living at the rim, 770 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: you know, Dennis Shooter driving to the rim and a 771 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: shop blocker comes over. Here comes Andre Drummond, Lebron and 772 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis to come get the offensive rebound. You physically 773 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 1: wear them down on defense when they're when they are defending, 774 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: and then that will translate if you're an elite defensive 775 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: team over the course of seven games to wearing them out. 776 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: And then the other big thing there is having a 777 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:31,400 Speaker 1: Lebron in a d to put on a Kevin Durant 778 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: James Harden type of pairing so that you can blow 779 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: up any of their screen and roll actions just by 780 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: switching everything. But switching is another really really good way 781 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: against Brooklyn to force them to get stagnant. I wouldn't 782 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: do it at length, but I do it at specific 783 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: stretches of the game. Um. Just by doing that, it 784 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: forces them to get out of a flow and forces 785 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: them to do kind of like what Katie did to 786 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: the Warriors at times. You know, Katie was so so 787 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 1: good on the Warriors, but the one downside with him 788 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: is a lot of times it got them out of 789 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: their other offensive actions because he would break off and isolate. 790 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: But Audre Drummond is another physically oppressive, you know, big 791 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: man that's gonna get a boatload of offensive rebounds. That's 792 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: gonna cause problems for Brooklyn in a playoff series in 793 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: the long term in terms of the physicality. So I 794 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: definitely view him as a weapon there. What are your 795 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: thoughts on an Oladipo trade. So I talked about this 796 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: with Uh. I think it was Danny Park's friend amount 797 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: on Twitter yesterday. I talked to him about it, and 798 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: the idea basically was he thinks Oladipo's washed. I disagree, 799 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: UH in a large part because you know, anytime anybody's 800 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: coming back from an injury, there's a little bit of 801 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: an adjustment period. I remember I broke my foot before 802 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 1: my second year of college at playing in college, and 803 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: I was really really bad to start the year. I 804 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: remember I had some bad practices and the coaching staff 805 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: pulled me side and was like, you know, at the 806 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: time on there were fifteen guys on the roster and 807 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: I was one of only two that was on a 808 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: full ride scholarship, and he was like, hey, you're one 809 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: of my full ride scholarship guys. You have to be better. 810 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: And you know, I would just be telling him. I 811 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: was like, I'm just I'm coming back from a foot injury, 812 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: like this just takes time, and um, I didn't really 813 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: get it going until the second half of the season. 814 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: But I did in the second half of the season 815 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: and I made an All Conference teams. So the point 816 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 1: is is, like you there's an adjustment period when you're 817 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: coming back from these injuries. You gotta have to bear 818 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: with these guys. And from what I understand, Oladipo in 819 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: his last like ten fifteen games has actually been really 820 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: really good at pretty efficient, you know, twenty point a 821 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: game guy. But the bottom line is is like in 822 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 1: the simplified role that he'd have with the Lakers as 823 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: basically a third ball handler instead of a primary or 824 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 1: secondary ball handler, playing alongside Lebron and a D getting 825 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: lots of close out opportunities, He's still a really good athlete, 826 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: so giving him an opportunity to use that as a 827 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: defensive player, there's no reason in the world why Oladipo 828 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: wouldn't be a massive upgrade over a guy like a 829 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: K C. P and so I think the way the 830 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 1: trade would work is you'd have to send like k 831 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: CP and trees out or something like that. I can't 832 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: remember I ran it through the trade machine yesterday, but 833 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,320 Speaker 1: that's an example of a player that I would definitely 834 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: take um. But my guess is that he's gonna end 835 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: up going somewhere else. It's an overly optimistic trade for 836 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: the Lakers in my opinion. Do you believe at the 837 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: sixth seed they can still win the championship? Absolutely? I 838 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: talked about that earlier. Uh, if you look at it 839 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: the way that it works, if they were a top seed, 840 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: they'd have to beat If they were a top two seed, 841 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 1: they'd have to probably beat Luca in the first round 842 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: or Steph Curry in the first round, and then they'd 843 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,919 Speaker 1: have to beat you know, the Clippers in the second round, 844 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: and then they'd have to beat like the Utah Jazz 845 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: in the third round. Now instead, it's gonna be like 846 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: the Jazz or Sons first and then you know the 847 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 1: Clippers second, and then you know whoever comes out at 848 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: the end. Maybe maybe you get a Luca, maybe you 849 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: get a the other team of the Utah Phoenix teams 850 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 1: that you didn't play. It's gonna be more difficult, especially 851 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: since they're going to be going on the road. But 852 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: it's it's more or less difficult no matter how you 853 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: look at it. There's no easy pathway through the playoffs. 854 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they're there's all these jokes about like, oh, 855 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz might get lucky and the Clippers and 856 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: Lakers might knock on you know, they might play each 857 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: other early and they'll knock one of the others out, 858 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, so your reward for getting the 859 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,919 Speaker 1: one seed and the Clippers and Lakers beating each other 860 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: is the better of those two teams. You still have 861 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: to beat Congratulations. So the Lakers beat the hell out 862 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: of the Clippers in the second round, and and and congrats, 863 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: you don't have to play the Clippers, but here come 864 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: the Lakers. Like it's just there's no point in trying 865 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: to look at any of this with road with rose 866 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: colored glasses. All of the teams are really, really good, 867 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: and there is no easy pathway through the playoffs. How 868 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: much do you think th ht costs in the off season? Honestly, 869 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 1: I expect him to get something like how Kuzman's contract uh, 870 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: you know, something in like the three years, fifty million 871 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:02,280 Speaker 1: type of deal. Uh. However, I wouldn't be surprised with 872 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: with a limited free agent market that's out there that 873 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: if some you know, crazy crappy team through a because 874 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: he's a restricted free agent. So whatever deal that someone 875 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: else offers, they'll have a chance to match. But you know, 876 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: it could be something crazy that the Lakers have no 877 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: interest in matching. And as you know Brian Windhors has 878 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: said and several of his podcasts lately, you know, the 879 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 1: Lakers don't have The Lakers are not a rich ownership group. 880 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: You know, they may not be the kind of team 881 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 1: that wants to sign up for some crazy luxury tax bill. 882 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: It doesn't really uh work for them financially. Um. That 883 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: would be the interesting thing with Dennis Shrewder. And this 884 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: is the last thing I'll say that we are out 885 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 1: of questions. This is the last thing I'll say, and 886 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 1: then we'll call it a day. But you know, with 887 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: with with Dennis Shrewder, he's facing a lot of criticism recently. 888 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: I think he was like two for nine or something 889 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: last two nights ago and wasn't good and a lot 890 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: of people criticizing him like, oh, is this a twenty 891 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: million dollar a year ago? Are? Of course not. Of 892 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: course he's not worth million dollars for what he does 893 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: on this team. That goes without saying. But the point is, 894 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: as we've seen dozens and dozens of times in recent years, 895 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: is your market isn't what the good teams are willing 896 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,479 Speaker 1: to pay you. The market is what the bad teams 897 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: are willing to pay you. You know, Bo Bogdon Bogdanovitch's 898 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: contract was what the Atlanta Hawks were willing to pay, 899 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,879 Speaker 1: and it wasn't you know, what a really really good 900 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: team like the Bucks were willing to pay. It's it's 901 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: it's always complicated, a lot more complicated, uh when it 902 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: comes to these free agent UH extensions and things along 903 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: those lines than just what a good team would be 904 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: willing to pay him. And that's what makes it suck. 905 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: And I made that point earlier about J. R. Smith. 906 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: You know, after the two thousand sixteen title, or Tristan 907 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: Thompson or or k C P this year, you you 908 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: get stuck over paying for guys because the market value 909 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: isn't what a championship team is willing to pay for 910 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: a guy. It's it's what a bad team is willing 911 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: to pay for a guy, and that throws the math 912 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: off entirely and it puts you in a tough position. 913 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: So my guess is that the Lakers are gonna have 914 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: to overpay Dennis. It's gonna be that, you know, four years, 915 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,720 Speaker 1: eighty something million, whatever the max is that they're allowed 916 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 1: to pay him, and it's gonna feel like an overpay 917 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 1: in the moment. It's absolutely going to be an overpay. 918 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: But Dennis Shooter's market value isn't what you know, the 919 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets would pay him. It's what the Sacramento Kings 920 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: are pay him. It's what it's what the bad teams 921 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 1: with cap space would pay him. That's just the harsh 922 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,240 Speaker 1: reality the way this stuff works. So you know, uh, 923 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 1: no point over analyzing what what uh Dennis Shooter does 924 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,879 Speaker 1: with this bad team. It's gonna get even uglier here 925 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: in the next few weeks. I expect them to lose 926 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: almost all of their games, with exception of maybe two 927 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: or three, and uh and a lot of people are 928 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 1: gonna be talking about his contract. A lot of people 929 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: are gonna be talking about whether ninety is worth it. 930 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,479 Speaker 1: And I think they're I think they're overthinking things alrighty well, 931 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for dropping all the questions 932 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,280 Speaker 1: for hanging out and listen. Thing. Like I said, tomorrow, 933 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 1: immediately after the trade deadline, I'll be doing a pot 934 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: of Tommy and then Friday morning with Raj at eight 935 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 1: o'clock Pacific Standard time. Thank you guys so much, as 936 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: always for your support, and I'll see you guys tomorrow