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Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi.

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Speaker 3: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been

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Speaker 3: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.

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Speaker 3: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know

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Speaker 3: that our loved ones have survived physical death, and so

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Speaker 3: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Today, we're

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Speaker 3: going to honor all those kind hearted people who work

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Speaker 3: or volunteer with hospice. We're going to hear many stories

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Speaker 3: today of heavenly visitors who appear to the dying while

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Speaker 3: under hospice care, giving hope and comfort. To all that

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Speaker 3: no one dies alone and that we are indeed all

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Speaker 3: escorted into the afterlife with love. Also a special shout

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Speaker 3: out and words of acknowledgment to those of you Shades

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Speaker 3: of the Afterlife listeners who were so moved by prior

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Speaker 3: episodes that you have taken on volunteering with Hospice. Many

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Speaker 3: people have told me that one sure way to get

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Speaker 3: over the fear of dying and to know the reality

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Speaker 3: of the afterlife is to be part of hospice. So

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Speaker 3: thank you all of you who donate your time and

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Speaker 3: those who may just be inspired to do so after

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Speaker 3: this episode. Unfortunately, so many people die alone, and those

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Speaker 3: loving souls that work and volunteer with hospice really do

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Speaker 3: give people the very best care right up unto the

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Speaker 3: end of this physical existence. Cicily Saunders, who was born

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Speaker 3: back in nineteen eighteen, founded the first modern hospice and

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Speaker 3: more than anybody else, was responsible for establishing the discipline

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Speaker 3: and the culture of palliative care. She introduced effective pain

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Speaker 3: management and insisted that dying people need dignity, compassion and respect.

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Speaker 3: Saint Christopher's Hospice opened in the southwest of London back

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Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty seven. It is now one of many,

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Speaker 3: Hospice provides the best possible quality of life for not

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Speaker 3: pain management, which includes physical, emotional, social, and spiritual dimensions

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Speaker 3: I'd like to especially mention and the YouTube channels of

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Speaker 3: Christopher Kerr, author of Death Is But a Dream. The

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Speaker 3: current book I am reading is called Final Gifts Understanding

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Speaker 3: the Special Awareness, Needs and Communications of the Dying by

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Speaker 3: hospice nurses Maggie Callanan and Patricia Kelly. To find more

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Speaker 3: of my past episodes about these heavenly visitors that appear

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Speaker 2: In times of illness, we are drawn closer to those

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Speaker 3: Christopher Kerr dot com, spell it Dr Christopher Karr dot com.

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Speaker 3: I know for me it's exciting to hear after life stories,

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Speaker 3: near death experience stories, deathbed visitation stories. They're all great

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain

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Speaker 3: and this episode is filled with short stories of heavenly

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Speaker 3: I sat with my friend's mother during her last days.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sander Champlain.

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Speaker 3: that she had to go and be with them. She

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00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: smiled and then took her last breath. When my father

431
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: died in nineteen ninety, he had suffered for years from

432
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: complications of diabetes. By the end of his days, he

433
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: was blind, had both legs amputated, underwent hemo dialysis, and

434
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 3: had not spoken for months. At lunchtime on a Thursday,

435
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 3: my mother and I were home when he suddenly began

436
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: to cry and call my name. Arriving at his bed,

437
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: he said to me, they are calling me to go

438
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: with them because this body no longer fits. So I

439
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 3: asked Dad, who are they? And he said my mother

440
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: and my father. Those were my grandparents he was looking at,

441
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: who died several decades before. The next day, my father died.

442
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: I was a volunteer helper for hospice. I would go

443
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: to the homes of patients and give the families some

444
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: relief to run their errands, take a break, etc. While

445
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: I watched their loved one. One case involved a ninety

446
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: year old man very close to death. While sitting with him,

447
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: he suddenly bolted upright, looked around his bed and said

448
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: to me, with his eyes bright and shining, they're all here.

449
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 3: They tell me the party is going on, and they

450
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: came to get me. He started calling out names of men,

451
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: interspersing them with loud cowboy type woos. Then he finally

452
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 3: fell silent, eyes closed, and he had the biggest smile

453
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: on his face. I had written down all that he

454
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: had said at the request of his son. Later, when

455
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: the sun returned, he told me that the names were

456
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: his father's best friends, fellow cowboys that had worked on

457
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: a cattle ranch out west for years. They had all

458
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: passed away. I can't tell you how much joy it

459
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: gave the sun to think that his father's friends had

460
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 3: come for him to take him to the cowboy party.

461
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: One of my grandmothers died in hospice after a brief illness.

462
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: Her daughter and her daughter's husband, aunt and uncle were

463
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 3: with her as much as possible. My grandma looked up

464
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: toward a corner of the room and had a beautiful

465
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: smile on her face. My aunt asked her what she

466
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 3: was looking at, and my grandma said, I see Jesus

467
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: and my whole family. My grandma was the youngest of

468
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: seven children, and she was the last one in her

469
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: family to die. My aunt and I were very close,

470
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: and she dreamt often of deceased family members who were

471
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: around her. In her final dream, she saw a tall,

472
00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: dark haired, handsome man stand up strong amongst them. She

473
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: needed no words, she knew it was my son who

474
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: passed away this year. He was no longer in his wheelchair.

475
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: He was completely healed. I remember a patient who was

476
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: never very talkative, and it was very difficult to get

477
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 3: even a smile out of him. Not because he was

478
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: in pain or seriously ill, that was just his style.

479
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 3: One day, he was looking up towards the ceiling and

480
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: he was smiling his head off. He looked so happy.

481
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: I asked him if he was okay. He barely moved

482
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: his head, but he said yes. I went into the

483
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 3: supply room only for a brief moment, and when I

484
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 3: came out, he had died. But I will always remember

485
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: the sheer look of joy on his face. I believe

486
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: he was seeing something or someone which made him so happy.

487
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 3: Four days before my eighty nine year old father passed away,

488
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 3: I saw him raise his right hand and say, I'm coming, Mom.

489
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 3: Be patient, I'll be there soon. I'll be there in

490
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: four days. And four days later he passed. My father

491
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 3: really loved his mother, and it gave me great comfort

492
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: knowing that she was there to greet him. I had

493
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 3: a patient who was actively dying. As her nurse, I

494
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 3: stayed by her side and comforted her as much as

495
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: I could. After about twenty minutes, she began to wave

496
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 3: towards the corner of the room. She had this big

497
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: smile with glow and joy. She grabbed my hand and said, look,

498
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 3: say hello to my mom. She began reaching her arms

499
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: out to the empty corner of the room. She died

500
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 3: within the hour. My grandmother had a massive heart attack.

501
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 3: She was dead for a few moments before being revived

502
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: A few weeks later. When she was finally able to speak,

503
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 3: she told us she saw her deceased parents, her brothers,

504
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: her sisters, her first husband, and her friends all sitting

505
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 3: around a big card table playing poker. They turned to

506
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 3: her and they told her they couldn't deal her in yet.

507
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 3: When my best friend was dying of cancer, she was

508
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: putting up a good fight. She didn't want to die.

509
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 3: She was still a young sixty years old. The day

510
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 3: before her body gave out, she became at peace. She

511
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: stopped fighting and said, I love you all, but my

512
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 3: dad's here and I'm going to go with him. The

513
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 3: last words my father said before his death were I

514
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: have to go now. My parents are here sitting next

515
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 3: to me on the bed, and they want to take

516
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: me somewhere very peaceful and relaxed. And then he died.

517
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: My dad was in hospice back in nineteen ninety four

518
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: and was in a comatose state for a few weeks

519
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 3: before he passed away. On the day that he passed,

520
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: he was holding his arm up toward the corner of

521
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: the ceiling and I thought he was waking up. I

522
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: called out to him, but he never responded. He smiled

523
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: and spoke in a very soft voice to whoever it

524
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 3: was he was seeing before his arm dropped, and then

525
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: twenty five minutes later he passed away. Then two months

526
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: later he came to me in a dream, telling me

527
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: how light he felt. He was flapping his arms like

528
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: a chicken flaps their wings. He said he felt very

529
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 3: light and it was just wonderful. He also stated that

530
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 3: he never had time to tell me that he left

531
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 3: five thousand dollars and his top dresser drawer in his

532
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 3: room for me and my wife and two small children.

533
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 3: At the time. I woke up and told my wife

534
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: about the dream with my dad. Then I told her

535
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: about the money he said he left for us. So

536
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 3: we both got out of bed and went into his

537
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: room and opened his top dresser drawer. I took out

538
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: all of the papers in the books, and at the

539
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: bottom of the drawer was a white envelope with our

540
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 3: names on it. I opened the envelope and counted out

541
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: exactly five thousand dollars in cash. Needless to say, I

542
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: nearly passed out. And ever since that day, I have

543
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: had a fascination with life after death. I know for

544
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: a fact life goes on. My mom just passed away

545
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 3: in her sleep at the age of ninety one, and

546
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 3: I took care of her for about two twenty years

547
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: after her health started failing. The things that have happened

548
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: after she passed are amazing too. Life definitely does go on,

549
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: and I look forward to one day seeing my mom

550
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 3: and dad again. I worked as an oncology nurse at

551
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: a children's hospital in the nineties. One night I was

552
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 3: caring for a twelve year old girl who was dying

553
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 3: from leukemia. She was there alone, and it was a

554
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 3: very peaceful night. She slept most of it. Her parents

555
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: were not there. At one point during the night, she

556
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: woke up and asked me, where did the man go?

557
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 3: And I said, what man? And she said, the man

558
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 3: that's been sitting in that rocking chair next to her bed.

559
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 3: Our unit was locked at night, and we knew everyone

560
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: who was on that floor, and there was no man

561
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 3: that was visible that sat in that chair next to

562
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 3: her that night. She died peacefully the next morning. To

563
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 3: this day, I know it was someone from heaven coming

564
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 3: to take her home. Before passing, my father had vivid

565
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 3: dreams of his hometown in Sicily. He could recall everyone's names,

566
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 3: the shops and said it was so clear and that

567
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 3: he could remember everything. Dad was eighty when he passed

568
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: and hadn't been back to Sicily since he left at

569
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: the age of seventeen. I should have realized that this

570
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: was a sign of his soon to be passing. My

571
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: sister passed twelve months later and said that Dad was

572
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: at the hospital with her just before she died. It's

573
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 3: time to go to our last break and then we'll

574
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: be back with more stories. You're listening to Shades of

575
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast a

576
00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 3: M Paranormal Podcast Network. Stay there, Sandra will be right back.

577
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: Hey, it's the Wizard of Weird Joshua P. Warren. Don't

578
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 4: forget to check out my show Strange Things each week

579
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: as I bring you the world of the truly amazing

580
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 4: and bizarre right here on the iHeartRadio and Coast to

581
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 4: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.

582
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 3: This is Afterlife Expert Daniel Braakley, and you're listening to

583
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 3: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paronormal Podcast Network.

584
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain.

585
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: We never know how our life is going to play out,

586
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: or the lives of our loved ones, but hearing these

587
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 3: stories gives so much confidence that no one dies alone,

588
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: that there's a bigger plan. That we're greeted that there's

589
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 3: parties and that people will take us home. I'd like

590
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: to continue our story time with some stories from the

591
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 3: new books that I'm reading called Final Gifts, written by

592
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 3: two hospice nurses. They say, sometimes a family decides to

593
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: withhold information about the death of someone. The dying person

594
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 3: knows this impulse is to spare someone emotional pain, but

595
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 3: the truth often brings peace, not discomfort. This is the

596
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: story of Sue, a dignified Chinese woman. Sue was getting

597
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: devoted care from her daughter Lily. Both were Buddhists and

598
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: very accepting of the mother's terminal status. I've had a

599
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 3: good life for ninety three years, she said, and I've

600
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 3: been on earth long enough. She dreamed of her husband,

601
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: who had died many years before. I will join him soon,

602
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 3: she said. But one day, Sue seemed very puzzled. Why

603
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: is my sister with my husband? She asked, They are

604
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 3: both calling me to come. Is your sister dead, I asked, No,

605
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 3: she still lives in China, she said, I've not seen

606
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 3: her for many years. When I related this conversation to

607
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: the daughter, she was astonished and tearful. My aunt died

608
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 3: two days ago in China. Lily said, we decided not

609
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 3: to tell mother that her sister had the same kind

610
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 3: of cancer. It was a very painful death. She lived

611
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: in a remote village where good medical care wasn't available.

612
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 3: We didn't want to upset or frighten mother since she

613
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: was so sick herself. What do you think about your

614
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 3: mother's questioning why she is being called to come by

615
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: both her sister and your father, I asked. Mother tells

616
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: me that my father's been calling her to be with

617
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: him for the past week. Lily said, it gives me

618
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 3: comfort to know they will be together in the next life,

619
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: So I guess her sister is waiting there for her. Also,

620
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 3: Lily said, after much thought, do you think the news

621
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: of her sister's death will upset your mother? No, I

622
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: guess not. They loved each other a great deal, so

623
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 3: it'll be wonderful for them to be all together again.

624
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: I guess I should tell her the truth. When Lily

625
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 3: tearfully told her mother about her sister's illness and death,

626
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 3: Sue said, with a knowing smile, Now I understand her

627
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 3: puzzle was solved. She died three weeks later, at peace

628
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 3: and with a se anticipation. The Companionship and support these

629
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 3: presences provide for a person about to die is evident,

630
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: but some terminally ill people have these experiences months before

631
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 3: their deaths and benefit in a similar way over a

632
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: longer period of time. We don't just see people when

633
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 3: we pass. Sometimes, like the man seeing Cecily, get transported

634
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 3: back to places in the past. Here's the story of Lucy.

635
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: Near Dawn, a patient's daughter telephoned mother says she's been

636
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: out of her body and has been somewhere else, but

637
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 3: now she's back and keeps wanting to tell me about it.

638
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 3: Ellie said, in a tight, breathless voice, would you please

639
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: come over? How is she now? I asked. She says

640
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 3: she's fine, Ellie said, Does she seem any different to you? No,

641
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 3: she's the same as always, except for the story of

642
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 3: leaving her body. Is she upset by having left her body? No,

643
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 3: she's fine, feeling quite comfortable and asking for a cup

644
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Speaker 3: of coffee. I told Ellie to make the coffee and

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Speaker 3: i'd be right over. When I arrived, Ellie looked shaken.

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Speaker 3: Her mother, though, was serene. How are you doing, I asked, Lucy.

647
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: I was just telling Ellie that I went out of

648
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: here and left this old body behind for a while.

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Speaker 3: Lucy said, where did you go? I asked, back to

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Speaker 3: the old farm in Pennsylvania where I grew up. She said,

651
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Speaker 3: The kitchen looked the same, and the view across the

652
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 3: fields where the cows used to be was so fresh

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Speaker 3: and green. Lucy talked at length about the old farmhouse,

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Speaker 3: how she'd lived in it until she was nearly twenty,

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Speaker 3: and then she'd continue to visit until the death of

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Speaker 3: her uncle, who owned it. After it was sold, she

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Speaker 3: hadn't returned. In her opinion, she'd been transported to a

658
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Speaker 3: place she particularly loved. What do you think this means,

659
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 3: I asked Lucy. Oh, I don't know. I guess I

660
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: just wanted to see it again. In describing her out

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00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: of body experience, Lucy gave many specific details, but sometimes

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00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 3: they only refer to a light. Here's Emma's story. Emma fifty,

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Speaker 3: had a husband and two children in their early twenties.

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Speaker 3: When I asked Emma what she missed most because of

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Speaker 3: the limitations of her illness, she replied, entertaining I love

666
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 3: to give parties and cook wonderful food for my family

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Speaker 3: and friends. Her husband reported that many friends brought food

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00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: to them now, always hoping to send just the right

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Speaker 3: thing to tempt Emma's disappearing appetite. So Emma knew that

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Speaker 3: her family was still eating well, despite the fact that

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00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 3: she could no longer cook for them, But it was

672
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 3: the joy of sharing her creative cooking with the people

673
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: she loved that she missed so much. Her daughter was

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Speaker 3: about to graduate from college, and Emma spoke often about

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Speaker 3: how she looked forward to seeing her daughter and a

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Speaker 3: cap and gown. She's the first college graduate in the family,

677
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 3: she said proudly. As her illness progressed, Emma spent more

678
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: time in bed. About a month before she died, I

679
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 3: visited and found her propped up on pillows, staring into

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00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: space with a dreamy look in her eyes. She was

681
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 3: smiling peacefully. What's happening, Emma, I asked, there's that beautiful light,

682
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 3: she whispered softly. Despite my gentle questioning, she continued to

683
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 3: smile dreamily, but offered no further information. She mentioned the

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00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 3: light two or three times during my next few visits,

685
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 3: never providing details, but continuing to look radiant and peaceful.

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Speaker 3: She was a strong willed woman who struggled to deal

687
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: with her increasing loss of control as she became sicker,

688
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 3: She insisted on continuing to manage her own medicines, despite

689
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: the fact that she was sometimes slightly confused. Her family

690
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 3: and nurses were very concerned about her safety and felt

691
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,280
Speaker 3: this might be dangerous, yet she could not relinquish this control.

692
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 3: Rather than have a private duty nurse at home, Emma

693
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: chose to be admitted into the hospice unit. I visited

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00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: her shortly after she was admitted. Oh, if only I

695
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: could relax, she complained. What would happen if you relaxed?

696
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: I asked, well, that light would come closer again and

697
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 3: I could get to know all those people. For as

698
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: flit second, I thought she was referring to her roommates

699
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 3: or the staff on the unit. Unsure, I asked what people.

700
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 3: Emma looked surprised, as if I were asking a rediculous question.

701
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 3: All these people around my bed, of course, she said,

702
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 3: waving her arm to show the size of the crowd

703
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 3: that I couldn't see. You will relax, I reassured her.

704
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 3: This is a safe place to relax and a safe

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00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 3: place to get to know all these people around you.

706
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 3: The beautiful light will come closer and everything will be

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00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 3: all right. The nurse assigned to Emma's care reported that

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00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 3: she was comfortable, but deteriorating, and often appeared busy, preoccupied,

709
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 3: as though giving directions were fussing at people unseen. On

710
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 3: the eve of her daughter's graduation, I visited again and asked,

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00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 3: what's happening, Emma? Well, I have so much to do

712
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 3: with all of these people, and that light just keeps

713
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 3: coming closer, she replied, with a trace of annoyance. Do

714
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 3: you know any of these people? I asked her. Well, yes,

715
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: there's my she said, squinting as if to see him better.

716
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 3: I smiled and nodded, knowing that her father had died

717
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 3: less than a year before. Is he waiting for you?

718
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 3: I asked? She looked surprised. For Heaven's sake, Is that

719
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Speaker 3: what he's doing? She asked? Emma, when will your work

720
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: be done? I continued, Oh, I think probably Sunday, she answered.

721
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Speaker 3: I immediately called her family to alert them. The next day,

722
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Speaker 3: Emma put on her wig and makeup to prepare for

723
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Speaker 3: her daughter's visit after graduation. It was quite a celebration,

724
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Speaker 3: with cake, champagne, and lots of family pictures taken The

725
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 3: next morning, Emma again, put on her wig and makeup,

726
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 3: lay back against the pillows with a contented sigh, and

727
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 3: within a few hours had slipped from sleep into a

728
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 3: brief coma. With her family quietly sitting around her. She

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00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 3: peacefully died, just as she had predicted. It was Sunday

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Speaker 3: and her work was done. If you're interested in hospice

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Speaker 3: care for yourself, for a loved one, or volunteering, there's

732
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Speaker 3: a great website, Hospicefoundation dot org. Many individuals and families

733
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 3: really could benefit from care, but don't know how to

734
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Speaker 3: access it. Some people are afraid to discuss it, some

735
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 3: wait for a physician to suggest it, and some people

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Speaker 3: don't know. You can initiate hospice care on your own.

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Speaker 3: Remember that hospice does not extend or shorten life expectancy,

738
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Speaker 3: but seeks to improve the quality of time that is

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Speaker 3: left and manage pain. If you think hospice may be

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00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 3: the right choice for you or a family member, here's

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Speaker 3: how to proceed. Number one, start the conversation. Discuss it

742
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Speaker 3: with your healthcare provider. Number two, get recommendations, do some

743
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Speaker 3: searching in your area, ask family or friends. Even if

744
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 3: your physician doesn't agree that hospice this is the right choice.

745
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 3: You can contact a local hospice directly for help with

746
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 3: a referral next visit and assess the providers. You can

747
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 3: request a no cost, no obligation visit by the hospice providers.

748
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 3: They will send a clinician to your home, or you

749
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 3: could visit the hospice facility and get your questions answered.

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Speaker 3: My father spent some time in hospice managing his pain medication.

751
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 3: The facility was bright and happy. The staff couldn't have

752
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 3: been any greater. Little did I know then that that

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00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 3: experience would have me recommending hospice to you. Now, certainly

754
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,439
Speaker 3: that's the route I'm going to go. Well, our time

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00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 3: together has come to an end. Please remember to come

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Speaker 3: visit me at We Don'tdie dot com, Come to a

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Speaker 3: free Sunday gathering, join one of our medium classes, or

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Speaker 3: other events. I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you so much for

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