1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Tell me how it felt walking into the courtroom and 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: then I saw your eyes go up when you saw her. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Just tell me about that moment of noticing when she 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: entered the room. 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: She seems smaller, older, but kind of smug still. I mean, 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 2: I thought she looked kind of like she thinks she's 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: going to get away with it. 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. 9 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: I thought she was looking at me. I turned to 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: you and I said, I think she's looking at me. 11 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: I'm walking back from court with Jess Travino, the internet 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: sleuth who spent the past five years investigating the disappearance 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: of Talina Tzar and digging into the background of Corey Baumily, 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: the woman accused of killing her. Jess has longed to 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: confront Corey and to see her held accountable for the 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: crimes Jess believes she has committed, and this hot summer 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: day in Madison, Wisconsin is her very first taste of that. 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: To know what I know about her and then to 19 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: see her, my heart quickened a little bit. 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 4: And then as I. 21 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: Sat there, I just kept staring at her, waiting for 22 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: her to turn, thinking like, is she thinking about what's 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: going to happen in Oklahoma? 24 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: From iHeart podcasts. I'm Melissa Jelson and this is a 25 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: bonus episode of what Happened to Telena Tzar Corey's first 26 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: day in court. 27 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 5: The case before us today is entitled The State of 28 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 5: Wisconsin Versus Corey Bamilee Adams. 29 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: It's Monday, June twenty third, twenty twenty five, and I'm 30 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: in Madison, Wisconsin to cover a case you've heard if 31 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: you've followed this podcast. This is not the trial for 32 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: the murder of Teleinazar that's yet to take place. Instead, 33 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: it's Corey's trial for the attempted murder of Sherry and 34 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: Mike Ziegler using homemade risin back in twenty fourteen. I'm 35 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: here for a lot of reasons. To report on the trial, 36 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: because it's connected to Tellina's case, but also to meet 37 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: some of the people I've written about over the years 38 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: but haven't met in person, like two of the officers 39 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: from Wagner, Oklahoma. They're here too. 40 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 5: Please take your name for the record, spelling it Danny Elliott, 41 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 5: DA n N Y E. L. 42 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 6: L Iott. I am a lieutenant with the Wager County 43 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 6: Sheriff's Office in Oklahoma. Name's Joel j Oe L. 44 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 7: Whoever w a B E r Okay. 45 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 4: Council, go ahead. 46 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: Jess and I are sitting in a windowless courtroom in 47 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: the Dame County Courthouse, and I'll steer eight story building 48 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: that makes me feel like we're waiting to update our 49 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: driver's licenses rather than observe an attempted murder trial. I 50 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: have to say, for all our excitement and anticipation to 51 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: be here, we're among only a handful of other people 52 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: in the audience, but importantly sitting just in front of 53 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: us are Sherry and Mike Ziegler, the victims at the 54 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: center of this case. I had spoken to Sherry earlier 55 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: on the phone. 56 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 8: It's in ten years and it's taking the toll on 57 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 8: us a little bit, you know, to keep going chew 58 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 8: it over and over. That's why it was hard for 59 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 8: me to agree on a time to even talk to 60 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 8: you about it. 61 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: The trial is expected to last about a week, and 62 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: over the course of the next few days, Sherry and 63 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: Mike will have to rehash and relive the trauma that 64 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: began almost a decad to go but only recently came 65 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: into full focus. Sherry and Mike's testimony is barred from 66 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: being recorded from our previous conversation. I know she's been 67 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: nervous about this case finally going to trial. She both 68 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: wants it to happen to put an end to this 69 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: chapter of her life, but is also dreading having to 70 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: go through it. 71 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 8: We'ved all the story many many times because there's a 72 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 8: lot of people we met, and let you know, I 73 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 8: heard about it and want to hear all the gruesome details, 74 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 8: and it's hard to talk about after a while. Once 75 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 8: the trial is over with, I will be so. 76 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 4: Happy and done with. 77 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 8: And then she goes back to Oklahoma, stands that trial, 78 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 8: and hopefully spend the rest of her life in prison 79 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 8: or worse. 80 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: But until then, Sherry just has to sit and face 81 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: the person who she believes tried to kill her. Jess 82 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: is also here in the courtroom. She drove in from 83 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: her home in Minnesota, a four and a half hour track, 84 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: leaving her family behind and taking off work to be here, 85 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: to be in the same room with Corey, a person 86 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: who has loomed large in Jessic's world and this podcast. 87 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: I've had this image in my head of this not 88 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: a literal monster, but to just go through this whole 89 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: thing and know the thing she's done. I had just 90 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: a different image of what she would still look like, 91 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: and it felt kind of surreal, kind of intense for 92 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 2: a little bit, and I kept I got a little 93 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: nervous when she first came in, all Right, I felt 94 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: zero sympathy for her. In fact, all I could think 95 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: the whole time was I'm looking at her hair, and 96 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, Corey in her fucking mullet. I mean, she's 97 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: still rocking and it's terrible. 98 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 1: Well, she probably doesn't have the hairdresser. 99 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: When she had when it was terrible, which is small 100 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: in comparison. Right, I'm not saying it's not I'm just yeah, 101 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 2: the mullet, the jacket, I'm nitpicking her, which I normally Okay, 102 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I probably do nitpick people sometimes, 103 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: but I don't know. I don't like anything about her, 104 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: so I didn't feel any sympathy. 105 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: Corey is seated at a table with her two lawyers 106 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: on the opposite side of the room from us. She's 107 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: wearing glasses and dressed in playing clothes, a blazer and 108 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: blue collar shirt. I'd seen photos and heard about her 109 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: physical presence from the Wagner neighbors. She was described over 110 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: and over as physically strong and capable, a workhorse who 111 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: easily erected fences, managed livestock, and fixed things around the house. 112 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: It's hard to square that description with the woman in 113 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: one of us, who looks rather small and unremarkable. Corey 114 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: two has been waiting for this moment. She's been incarcerated 115 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: since her arrest for Telena's murder in January twenty twenty one. 116 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: In court, she's mostly quiet, occasionally whispering something to her attorneys, 117 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: and yet we all Jess, the Zieglers and me can't 118 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: help but stare what unfolds during the court proceedings are 119 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: two versions of the same story. The story told by 120 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: the state. 121 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: The prosecutors are Matthew Moser and Jack Schneider. 122 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: Is probably pretty familiar to you by now. It starts 123 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen when the Zieglers go on vacation and 124 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: come home to a mess. Weird powder sprinkled about their house, 125 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: and soon they notice that things are missing, a say 126 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: and also a credit card which someone had been using. 127 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: The deputy who goes to the Ziegler's house testifies that 128 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: by the time he looked into the robbery and the fraud, 129 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: Sherry had done quite a bit of her own amateur 130 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: slew thing. 131 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 4: When you at. 132 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 7: Conduct was Sherry. Did Sherry indicate to you if she 133 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 7: had done anything herself to potentially investigate who would use 134 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 7: this card? 135 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 9: She had done some groundwork on it based on the 136 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 9: fraudulent credit card statement that they had. I think she 137 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 9: was able to view a picture or some video through 138 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 9: one of the locations. 139 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: From the footage, Sherry could see exactly who was using 140 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: her credit card. 141 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 7: Do you recall her indicating to you that the person 142 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 7: she thought who might have used the credit card was 143 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 7: her neighbor who she knows deb yes. Did you ultimately 144 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 7: follow up based on information Sharon Ziegler gave you and 145 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 7: determined that the person she was calling dead was Corey 146 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 7: Bombley Adams. 147 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 4: I did, yes. 148 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: Corey is ultimately convicted of ingeing Sherry's credit card. Wisconsin 149 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: police never find the missing safe, and the strange debris 150 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: is written off as a prank. Cherry told me the 151 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: deputy didn't even collect any of it for evidence. 152 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 8: I actually did show him the sample of that kitty 153 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 8: letter stuff that we had collected, and he goes, yeah, 154 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 8: it looks like kitty letter oil. 155 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: Dry. 156 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know what it is and just kind 157 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 8: of brushed it off and laugh. You know, he just 158 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 8: didn't do anything more. 159 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: On the stand, the prosecutor asks the deputy about this tipty. 160 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 7: Zach, Hey, you've now learned that some of the powder 161 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 7: left behind in the Siegler residence test depositive for risin. 162 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 7: I did had you known it was potentially a toxic 163 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 7: substance at the time, would you likely have sought to 164 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 7: collect anything that was left Absolutely? 165 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: The jury here is that the investigation into the incident 166 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: with the Zieglers is closed after Corey's conviction for credit 167 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: card fraud. That is until twenty twenty, when Corey comes 168 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: in contact with police in Oklahoma. 169 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 8: All of a sudden, I get a phone call out 170 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 8: of the blue from this gentleman asking questions about Corey. 171 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 8: And I was really hesitant to say too much about 172 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 8: it because I didn't know if this was something that 173 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 8: Corey was putting us up to to get slander on us, 174 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 8: or you know. I mean, I just did not trust 175 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 8: this woman. I lost trust and a lot of people 176 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 8: and a lot of things after that. 177 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: When you were watching Corey today, how would you describe 178 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: her demeanor while she was observing the core proceedings. 179 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: She seemed really calm to me. I didn't notice any 180 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: fidgeting or I noticed a lot of looking around just 181 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: to see, but I wanted to see if she looked 182 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: at Sherry when she walked by, and I noticed that 183 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: she kind of turned forward and didn't even make our contact. 184 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: The trial moves along relatively slowly. On day two, the 185 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: police from Oklahoma are called to testify. Important note here 186 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: the jury is never told that Corey is charged with 187 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: murder in another case. They are only told that in 188 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, she came in contact with these authorities in 189 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: Oklahoma who were investigating a different incident, so they have 190 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: to keep their answers pretty vague. They can't say they 191 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,599 Speaker 1: spent almost a year playing cat and mouse with Corey, 192 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: trying to collect enough evidence to put her behind bars. 193 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: The jury is unaware of any of this. You might 194 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: recall that we previously used a voice actor to read 195 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: statements by Detective Joel Weber, the lead investigator in the 196 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: disappearance of Helenazar. Now you can hear his actual voice 197 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: as he's questioned by the prosecutor. 198 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 7: Back in April of twenty twenty, did you be Kime 199 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 7: involved in an investigation of Wanger County, Oklahoma that resulted 200 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 7: in you having contact with the person identify as Corey 201 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 7: Bombay Adams. Yes, you see miss Bombaly Adams in court today. 202 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 7: Could you point around described where she's sitting in what 203 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 7: she's wearing. 204 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 10: Out to the right side of the table in front 205 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 10: of me and looks like a white blazer. 206 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,599 Speaker 7: I guess the record reflect the identification. 207 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: The prosecutor brings up Weber's interview with Corey on May ninth, 208 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, when he asked her about the circumstances surrounding 209 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: the credit card fraud. In episode four, you heard a 210 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: recreation of that interview based on transcripts at trial, the 211 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: state played the real version. 212 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 11: My neighbor, my male neighbor, and I will be very 213 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 11: good friends. And my husband and I spent every penning 214 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 11: we had to move to with confidence, and they went 215 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 11: through a tough time where we didn't have much money. 216 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 11: He gave me this card to use, his work card, 217 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 11: his white car or his card to use and said 218 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 11: he'll get yourself from groceries. You know, he'll fill your 219 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 11: tech foot path and it's where you contained that well. 220 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 11: The white was jealous with him. And I for no reason, 221 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 11: and she had a tenaria and she pressed charges because 222 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 11: I used her Pride card. He stood behind her. 223 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 4: I didn't. 224 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 11: I still like the byel. He's a big guy. I 225 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 11: just said she's not a big cook. 226 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm sitting behind the Zieglers while this video from twenty 227 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: twenty plays in court as they listened to Corey tell 228 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: yet another version of the events of twenty fourteen. Back then, 229 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: Corey claimed in court she'd found the credit card on 230 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: the ground and used it. Of course, Sherry believes neither 231 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: story is the truth. I watch her shake her head 232 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: in frustration. Clencher Jaw. Another Wagner cop, Danny Elliott, testifies 233 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: about finding castor beans, which can be used to make ricin, 234 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: in a safe in Corey's possession. 235 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 7: Lieutenant Elliott, I'm showing you that it's marked this exhibit thirty eight. 236 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 7: What do you recognize Exhibit thirty eight to be that. 237 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 6: Is a small safe that was located in a bedroom closet. 238 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 7: I'd like to ask you some questions about this safe. 239 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 7: When this was located in this Bombay Adam's residence on 240 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 7: May twenty ninth, did she make any statements in your 241 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 7: presence about this item. 242 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 6: Something to the effect of it's old, say that she 243 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 6: didn't even have the key to it anymore. 244 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 7: At some point, were you able to locate a key 245 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 7: for the safe? Yes, very quickly. I'm next showing you 246 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 7: what's been received in eminence is Exhibit forty. Are these 247 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 7: other items that were found inside that safe? 248 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: Yes, the mags of seeds, the bag of castor beans. 249 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: The Wagner cops also bring up the recipe they found 250 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: on Corey's computer on how to make risin. The prosecutors 251 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: asked the Wagner police about a tip they received, a 252 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: tip we mentioned briefly in the podcast, but was a 253 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: significant piece of the investigator's puzzle. 254 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 7: At some point. Also, had your Deputy Weber received essentially 255 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 7: some of the reports or information about the case from 256 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 7: the Alexander Adams. 257 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 6: I believe investigated Weber ducas. 258 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 7: Had you become aware that Alexander Adams was the ex 259 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 7: husband of Corey Bomley Adams during this case. 260 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: Yes, you may remember Alexander Adams, Corey's X who goes 261 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: by Alec. He's a Celtic musician who first connected Corey 262 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: and Telena at Gorefest in twenty twenty after Telena went missing, 263 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: he contacted Wagner police and told them that Corey had 264 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: previously admitted to him that she tried to poison their 265 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: neighbors in Wisconsin. At trial, Alec is a key witness 266 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: for the prosecution. On the stand, He's soft spoken and 267 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: wears a black suit jacket against a plumb purple button 268 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: down shirt. His hair is gray and thinning on top, 269 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: and the long braid drapes over his shoulder. The prosecutor 270 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: asks Alec about the events of twenty fourteen and why 271 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: he didn't come forward at the time. 272 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 7: Mister Adams, in terms of when this boma le disclosed 273 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 7: the poisoning issue to you, did you have any concerns 274 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 7: for whether you would be in trouble? Yes? Why was that? 275 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 4: Well? 276 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 10: When she told me she'd done this, I looked at 277 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 10: her and I said, that's attempted murder and I am 278 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 10: not with that. Her reply was, you can't say anything 279 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 10: about it because both of us will be arrested and 280 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 10: the animals put to sleep. At the time, we had 281 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 10: fifty almost fifty, maybe a few more rescue animals. 282 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 7: How did that affect you in terms of that statement 283 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 7: being made to you by miss Pommeli animals. 284 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 10: That was terrifying and very very successful in silencing me. 285 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: Alec goes on to say he also reached out directly 286 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: to the Zieglers in twenty twenty, an act he didn't 287 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: feel he could have done earlier for fear of retribution 288 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: from Corey. 289 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 7: What was the purpose of you contacting the Zeglers. 290 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 4: I thought at. 291 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 10: That time that I might have I might be safe 292 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 10: to at least let them know that if they had 293 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 10: found any of that powder in the house, if they 294 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 10: still had some, I told them to get it checked 295 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 10: because it could very well be rice. 296 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 6: And I just. 297 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 10: Thought they should know in case anything might have come up, 298 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 10: like you know, kidney trouble or something like that. And 299 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 10: I thought, at least this way, you know, they could 300 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 10: maybe do something. 301 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: As Alec speaks, my eyes drift back over to Corey, 302 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm curious if I'll see some sort of reaction, the 303 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: furrow of a brow or maybe a WinCE, and she's 304 00:18:51,040 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: staring him down, silent but intense. During Danny Elliott's testimony, 305 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: he explains that after getting the tip from Alec and 306 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: finding the castor beans, they too felt compelled to reach 307 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: out to Sherry Ziegler in the summer of twenty twenty. 308 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 7: What was the reason for contacting the Seaglers. 309 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: Well, it was. 310 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 6: Curiosity. At first. We had got the reports that there 311 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 6: was some white substance that was spread during the burglary 312 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 6: of the Zieglers. We'd found the castor beans. I know, 313 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 6: eventually the computer showed the recipe for the ricin, so 314 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 6: I was very curious to find out if that substance 315 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 6: could have possibly been and based on what Alexander was saying, 316 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 6: if it was possibly rising. She said that she didn't 317 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 6: have any of the substance. A short time later, she 318 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 6: contacted me back directly and said that she had went 319 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 6: through I believe it's her socks an underwear drawer and 320 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 6: shook everything out out and sure enough found a sample 321 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 6: of it. 322 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 7: Did you have any discussion in this Siegler about her 323 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 7: sending you that substance? 324 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, I told her at that point, and I didn't 325 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 6: really know what to do with it, but the I 326 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 6: sid told her to put some gloves on, put it 327 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 6: in a ziploc bag, and overnight it to. 328 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 7: Me with the benefit of hindsight. How would you evaluate 329 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 7: that decision? 330 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 6: I thought it was in my finest thought process. We 331 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 6: don't deal with a lot of rice in a Wager County. 332 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: I try not to laugh. It's a brief moment of levity. 333 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: In otherwise somber proceedings. The jury hears that the sample 334 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: Sherry sent to Danny Elliott tests positive for risin, as 335 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: do subsequent samples taken from the Ziegler house. And that's 336 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: pretty much the sum of the state's case that in 337 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, Corey entered the Ziegler house, stole the credit card, 338 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: and left homemade rice and strewn about with the attention 339 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: of killing her neighbors. 340 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 7: Attempted homicide as you tried your best and it didn't work. 341 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 7: No one is putting ricin in someone's bed. 342 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 12: In their sock drawer, in their office. If you're not 343 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 12: trying to kill them, you're not trying to have them 344 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 12: consume a tiny amount just to get sick. There's no 345 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 12: conceivable reason to put ricin in someone's house other than to. 346 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 7: Cause their death. 347 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: The bulk of the evidence the prosecutors present is the 348 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: stuff the Oklahoma cops gathered, the recipes for risin found 349 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: on Corey's computers, the castor beans found in a safe, 350 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: along with a receipt that proved Corey bought them years 351 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: before the Ziegler incident. Honestly, we really didn't learn any 352 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: new information that we didn't already know. But the defense 353 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: had a different story to tell. 354 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,679 Speaker 2: With Sherry, they're really good people, and it is. It 355 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: was weird, you know, at first, telling people I'm gonna 356 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 2: go stay with Sherry and Mike and they're like in 357 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 2: their house, like do you even know them that well? 358 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 2: And I've talked to Sherry for five years on and 359 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: off the phone, and it felt okay, I don't know, 360 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: I'm It goes back to the intruce of an impulsive 361 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 2: part that I guess we talked about. 362 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: Jess is staying with the Zieglers for the trial, which 363 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: is exciting for her. She's part of the inner circle, 364 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: gets the inside scoop. But also it's a lot long 365 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: hours in court followed by emotional nights. The uncertainty weighs 366 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: heavy on all of them. Eventually it's the defense's turn. 367 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: We're all wondering if we will get to hear from 368 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: Corey directly, Will she testify, tell her story in her 369 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: own words? We learn as the judge questions Corey, the 370 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: answer is no. 371 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: I have some questions for you. 372 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 5: Uh, Miss Bonmley Adams. Do you understand that you have 373 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 5: both a conscial right to testify as well as the right. 374 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 4: To not testify? Yes? 375 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 5: Have you had the opportunity to discuss your decision on 376 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 5: whether to testify with your lawyers? 377 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 4: Yes? Have you had enough time. 378 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 11: To discuss your decision with your lawyers? 379 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 4: Yes? 380 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 5: Have you made a decision as to whether you will 381 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 5: or will not testify? 382 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 4: Yes? 383 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 11: Your owner, and what is that decision? 384 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 4: I will not testify. 385 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: Those dozen or so words are pretty much all we 386 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 1: hear from Corey, and as her attorneys lay out their case, 387 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: there's not much about Corey at all. 388 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 5: And for the defense attorneys, we have Kathleen Chung and 389 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 5: let us quit us. 390 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: They don't contest that risin was found inside the Ziegler's house, 391 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: but they do question who placed the rice in there 392 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: and if the jury can ever really know for sure? 393 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 4: She's been wrongly charged. She's been roundly accused of this. 394 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 4: She did not try to poison the Sieglers. 395 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: They suggest that Corey's then husband, Alexander Adams had just 396 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: as much access and opportunity to poison their neighbors as 397 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: Corey did. 398 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 13: A prosecution says that Corey Bomelli Adams is the only 399 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 13: one who could have put Ricin in the Ziegler's home. 400 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 7: That is just not true. 401 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 14: Every piece of evidence that they say points at my 402 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 14: client points at Alexander as Also, they say computer searches 403 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 14: show you that my client did. 404 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 15: A lot of searches. 405 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 16: They don't know who created those documents that the detective 406 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 16: told you that. 407 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 15: They don't know who visited those websites. They don't know 408 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 15: who made bookmarks or head could eats. 409 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 17: When asked, the district Patory said, Corey's computers. 410 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 18: But the detective doesn't know who owns them. He doesn't 411 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 18: know where they've been, he doesn't know. 412 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 4: Who's been on them. 413 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 19: He only knows where they were from at one moment 414 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 19: in time. 415 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 15: All of the rest of the information. 416 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 14: Comes from Alexander EPs. 417 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: Corey's lawyers focus on one specific event that they see 418 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: as damning. According to emails that came out during discovery, 419 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 1: Wisconsin had once offered Alec immunity from prosecution for his cooperation. 420 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what kinds of potential charges could even 421 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: be brought against Alec, but the defense suggests that to 422 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: free himself from such a liability, he might say anything now. Still, 423 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: there's no evidence there was ever a formal immunity agreement 424 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: between Alec and the state. Nothing was ever signed. 425 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 16: Alexander is bent on this, and he has pursued this 426 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 16: from twenty twenty to today. 427 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 18: And he has repeatedly told many people that Corey confessed. 428 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 19: This is the key to this case. 429 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 16: Alexander's report of my client's alleged confession the central allegation here. 430 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 15: It is the only evidence at all that puts my 431 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 15: clients in the house. Only Alexander Adams says that the 432 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 15: substance that my client possessed was rising. 433 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 18: He's the only one who says that my client knew 434 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 18: how to make rising and that she had it and 435 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 18: she did make it. 436 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 15: That's only him. 437 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 13: He's the only one who says Corey intended attempted. 438 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 19: Murder, and he couldn't stop saying that. 439 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: In closing arguments, Corey's attorneys remind the jury that the 440 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: burden is on the state to prove beyond a reasonable 441 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: doubt that Corey committed this crime, a threshold that they 442 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: do not believe has been met. 443 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 17: The state must prove that Missus Corbomelli Bonaley had an 444 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 17: intent to murder Michael and Sharon Siegler, and that she. 445 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 19: Put that rising in acts for the commission of murder. 446 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 18: There is no proof of eddy of that. The judge 447 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 18: will to define reasonable doubt for you. This that is 448 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 18: just this is a completely doubtful case. 449 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 19: Would you even buy a car from Alexander Adams, much 450 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 19: less a house or trust him in a decision about 451 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 19: something serious? This entire case depends on Alexander adams credibility. 452 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 19: They can't prove she was in the house ever. They 453 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 19: can't prove she's ever had ricin. 454 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 18: The only person who's say she's brewing ricin is Alexander. 455 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 15: They can't even prove she dislikes Ziebler's much. 456 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: They also bring up the question of motive. 457 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 19: Why in the world would she want to do this. 458 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 16: Of course, there's an obvious reason to steal. She wanted money, 459 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 16: and apparently she lied about it when she was Oklahoma. 460 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 16: She lied about it here and she lied about it there. 461 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 16: So I think it's fairly clear that there's some evidence 462 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 16: here that she's a feat And it seems that she 463 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 16: that card, she clearly used it without permission, and then 464 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 16: she lied about it. 465 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 19: I don't know how you get from that to murder. 466 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 11: That is a huge week. 467 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: On Friday, after four and a half days of testimony, 468 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: the State and defense rest and the jury enters deliberations. 469 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: It only took them two hours. 470 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 16: Has the jury reached a verdict? 471 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, Please pass the verdict envelope to the bibliity. 472 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 5: Verdict Count one, We the jury find the defendant, Corey 473 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 5: Bomily Adams, guilty of attempted first degree intentional homicide, has 474 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 5: charged in count one of the information. Members of the jury, 475 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 5: as to count one, is this your verdict? 476 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 4: If it is, say yes. If it is not, say no, yes. 477 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 5: Verdict Count two, We the jury find the defendant, Corey 478 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 5: Bomily Adams, guilty of attempted first degree intentional homicide, has 479 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 5: charged in count two of the information. 480 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: Corey is convicted of two counts of attempted murder in 481 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: the first degree, one for Sherry, one for Mike. But 482 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: Jess isn't there in the courtroom to witness it. She 483 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: had left Wisconsin the night before after sitting through four 484 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: days of trial. She was exhausted. She told me she 485 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: needed to get back to her family. After the verdict, 486 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: I called her as quickly as I could tell me 487 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: what just happened. 488 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 3: So I get a call from somebody at the courtroom 489 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: that said verdict and guilty of all charges. I am 490 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: so psyched. I was a little worried after some of 491 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 3: the testimony I heard, but like, I'm really excited. 492 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm so happy a disciplined and you weren't there to 493 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: see it. 494 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 3: Extremely, like extremely I'm so mad at myself for going home. 495 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 3: I got home yesterday at like two in the morning, 496 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 3: so I'm sad but happy. I mean it kind of. 497 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess the verdict was all that mattered. 498 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: I just wish I could have looked at her, but 499 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 3: from reports of people there, she was just like a statue, 500 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 3: no emotion when the verdict was read at all, just 501 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 3: completely blank. My phone is currently blowing up with people guilty, guilty, guilty. 502 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 19: I was like, yes, I know. 503 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 3: Literally, as I'm talking to you, I have one, two, three, four, five, 504 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 3: six messages all coming through. So just trying to get 505 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: back to people and there's people in different states waiting 506 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 3: to hear. And yeah, I'm super excited this really worked out. 507 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 2: I'm I'm glad. 508 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 3: I feel like we got some It's like our first 509 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: step in getting justice for Tulena. This is really like 510 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: the first part of it. I feel like this is 511 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 3: like the beginning steps of it, so it makes me happy. 512 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: I reached out to Sherry Ziegler too to ask if 513 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 1: she wanted to share her reaction to Corey's guilty verdict, 514 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: but she passed. She said the verdict is what she 515 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: hoped for and now she just wants to put this 516 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: experience behind her. Meanwhile, Jess keeps looking forward. Corey's sentencing 517 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: hearing is scheduled for August. She faces up to sixty 518 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: years per charge, and then, if all goes as planned, 519 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: Corey will be sent back to Oklahoma to stand trial 520 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: for the murder of Telena Czar. 521 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 2: It's not that I'm not invested in Sharry Mike's case, 522 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: because i am, but the Telena case is where I 523 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: think my heart is kind of at I think that 524 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: one's going to be a lot more Oh my god, 525 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: this is finally happening than this one is. 526 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: Jess had always planned on going to Oklahoma to attend 527 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: the murder trial, but she's wavered recently, having a bit 528 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: of a crisis of confidence. In the month since the 529 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: final episode of the podcast came out, Jess told me 530 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: she'd been affected by some of the negative comments she'd 531 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: read online. 532 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, I want to get emotional, but I 533 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: struggle with some of the Reddit stuff. In some of 534 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 2: the shitty comments, people are saying that I'm intrusive and narcissistic. 535 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 2: And because I second guess, I'm self aware. I know 536 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 2: sometimes it doesn't sound like it here, but I am. 537 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,239 Speaker 1: But because of the podcast, Jess also recently connected with 538 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: Telena's sister, Cheryl over the phone. Cheryl told Jess she 539 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: was grateful for all of her work, and she passed 540 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: along a similar message from Telena's mom. 541 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 2: Knowing that they think it's okay made this better for me. 542 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 2: I was actually, after reading some of that stuff, I'm like, go, 543 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 2: ID should just stop doing this, like finished recording for 544 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 2: Melissa and just drop everything and never talk about it again. 545 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: And when she was like, no, never stop talking about it, 546 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: I was like, then I'll do it for them and 547 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 2: for her. 548 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: What Happened to Telenazar is a production of iHeart Podcasts. 549 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: It's written, reported, and hosted by me Melissa Jelson, with 550 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: writing and story editing by Lauren Hansen, our executive producer 551 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: is Ryan Murdoch. For iHeart Podcasts, executive producers are Jason 552 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: English and Carl Catle. Zoe Denkla is our associate producer. 553 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: Jeremy Thal is our editor. Original music by Aaron Kaufman, 554 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: with additional music by Jeremy Thal and Gideon Crevishet. Additional 555 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: sound recording by Nicholas Bartel and Tony Bubbletz special thanks 556 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: to the staff at the Dane County Courthouse. Episodes are 557 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: mixed and mastered by Carl Catle. Our logo is designed 558 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: by Edo Moore. Thanks so much for listening.