1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Player's Podcast. I'm hanging out with 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Byron Jones. That's right. You wouldn't believe it. I was 3 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: standing right at the combine when he set the long 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: jump record twelve ft three inches. Drafted first round Dallas 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys five years there. Now he's in Miami and we're 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: really talking about cornerback. We're talking about financial literacy. That's right. 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: National Football League current player financial literacy. Let's listen in. 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Let's just go back to the combine. When I first 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: put my eyes on you, I'm standing next to the combine, 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: your section of cornerbacks. Then I see this guy named 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: Byron looked like he jumped outside the stadium. And then 12 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: I hear everybody yelling what what? Twelve ft three inches? 13 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: Byron set the record? What did death feel like? It 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: was exciting? Um, it was one of my goals coming 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 1: into the combine was to beat the record. I think 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 1: it was eleven six eleven seven at the time, and truthfully, 17 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: in training, I was only jumping eleven three eleven four. 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: But I knew, you know, when you know combine comes around, 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be ready. You know, you get the juice. 20 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: And obviously they give they kind of taper off the 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: training and all that stuff, so you kind of explode 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: at the right time. So I didn't think twelve feet 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: was possible. I was trying to get like eleven eight, 24 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, somewhere around there, and it was possible. I 25 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: didn't I didn't even think about twelve feet. I never 26 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: I just wanted to beat I know it was eleven six, 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: eleven seven. I wanted to beat that mark. I didn't 28 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: care about how much, but I never thought twelve and 29 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: I had I haven't jumped that far since. I never 30 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: jumped that far before. And after you break a record, 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: you're not expecting this. Did death start changing? Like okay, 32 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: what's going on here? Are you starting to what's happening 33 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: with the whole combine process is kind of dope? Well, 34 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: I like it for a couple of reasons. Number One, 35 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: you get you get a chance to be in front 36 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: of coaches, gms and really kind of you know, show 37 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: yourself and present yourself in the best light. You take 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: the one of the tests. I'm trying to study up 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: and trying to get right on that one. And and 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the at the end of the day, 41 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: you get to run around and have some fun and 42 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, did you do the jumping, do the footwork stuff. 43 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: And it was kind of like all this culmination of 44 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: all the work that I've done in the course of 45 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: you know, five ten years coming on to really three days, 46 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: and to me, I was excited about the whole process, 47 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: and I just had extreme confidence. Soon as I landed 48 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: in India, I'm like, Okay, it's right, it's about that 49 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: time now. So being at the University of Connecticut, what 50 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: gave you that confidence. I've always done the work. I've 51 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: always done the work to be where I am today. 52 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: I never would be truthful. I never dreamed of being 53 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: an NFL and never dream and even being in college football. 54 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: But you know, looking back in my life, I've always 55 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: done the work to get there. I've always been I 56 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: really take a day at a time and my mom 57 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: trust kind of cliche, but it's always winter to day 58 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: and it means a lot of different things. It's you know, 59 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: getting up on time, bushing your hair, bushing your teeth, 60 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: going to class, sitting in front and raising your hands, 61 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: being engaged. But also when it comes to the weight room, 62 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: you know, lifting as my heart as you can, running 63 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: as hard you can being number one, conditioning sets all 64 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: that good stuff. So every day I did that, you know, 65 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: for twenty seven days, for one thirty days, for a 66 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: hundred hundred and ninety days, three thousand days, four thousand, 67 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: just keep stacking up good days. Where did you get 68 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: that mentality? My junior in high school, I realized I 69 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: wasn't that smart. My g P wasn't that great, and 70 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: my SAT scores weren't that great. And I said, damn, 71 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it the college. I got to get 72 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: a scholarship. So I joined the track team. I worked 73 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: with like a personal training to kind of work on 74 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: my speed stuff and schools. Already, you know, I was 75 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: already not getting great grades. I was probably two three 76 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: to four and my S was like nine hundred fifty 77 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: something like that. Pretty bad. Once I got to college, 78 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: I started I started to see the opportunity that I 79 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: had in front of me. I'm like, wait a minute, 80 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: I can really change the course of my entire life. 81 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: I really put the work into it at that point. 82 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: I wish it came earlier in life. But you know, 83 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: my freshman year in college, I said, I'm going to 84 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: class and I've always been hard working in the weight 85 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: room and reflect that came easy. It came easy to me, 86 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: but I just made the commitment, like I'm not gonna 87 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: be average anymore. I'm listening to you, you a cerebral guy, 88 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: Like we're gonna talk about financial literacy and the work 89 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: that you're doing. You're not just gifted long jump record 90 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: combine long jumper. I'm I'm here in intellect here and 91 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 1: you're saying because I heard you also say I wasn't 92 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: as smart as a junior, right, So when did you 93 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: become this think? I think it was the time I 94 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: was sitting on campus. I'm wat I'm watching people walk by, 95 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: and I'm I'm fascistan. I'm stronger than I'm thinking. I'm 96 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: all big and tough. But then I thought to myself, 97 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: as I'm not going to be competing on the football 98 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: filled these guys. I'm gonna be competing in the interview 99 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: room or you know, from an employer, like what value 100 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: do I bring to a company? And I thought to 101 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: myself again, it's like I don't want to live you know, normally. 102 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: I want to be different on me, extraordinary. I've been 103 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: giving this incredible opportunity to go to school for free, 104 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: like to play football. And now what am I gonna 105 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: do with that opportunity. I'm not going to excel them 106 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: to take the opportunity for what it's worth. And from 107 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: that point on, I just I'm just consistent. You know, 108 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna show up being class. The basketball team won 109 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: the national championship. I'm out to two am at in 110 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: a fool, but at eight am, I'm in the class. Yeah, 111 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm in class, you know, taking notes and getting to 112 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: work in So I've been disciplined in that way. And 113 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: then once I got to the league, I started reading 114 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: a lot more and just trying to learn being to 115 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: start reading. I started reading a lot of books. Yes, 116 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: we supposed to be these physicalities, these physical guys, you 117 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: start reading. Yeah, I started picking up personal finance books. 118 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: I was not going broke after the jump and combine, 119 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: I was. They were talking to a third to first round. 120 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, man, get a little bit of money. 121 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, Man, I was at the time. 122 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: I was in college living in like a four hundred 123 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: square foot apartment. It was bad and had no front door. 124 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't make a all inside, had to go outside, 125 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to live like that. No more 126 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: so when when you get opportunity, you signed a big contract, 127 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so I gotta take care of this money, 128 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: how to protect it, how to grow it? So I 129 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: started reading personal finance books. As you know, they don't 130 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: teach assists in college. You don't teach assist in high school. 131 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: And I wasn't around money, so I just kind of 132 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: just absorbed as much as I could, and I found 133 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: a love in it. I found a love and a 134 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: passion and reading and learning and being a lifelong learner. 135 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: Just being exposed to stuff that I wasn't exposed to 136 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: when I was younger. And it's like, I'm talking to 137 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: a fourteen year vet here man, your self awareness is? 138 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: I come across very few young guys like yourself. How 139 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: did you become so self aware? Because I hear a 140 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: lot of them sitting down on the campus seeing students. 141 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm realizing we just kind of figure things out as 142 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: life goes along. I'm not never been a gold setter, 143 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 1: but there's been times in my life from like, okay, 144 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: I have one option, I gotta go there. In high 145 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: school was okay, my grades aren't great, I said tea 146 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: isn't great. I need to get it. I need to 147 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: get a scholarship, and then you know, obviously getting too 148 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: the league. I'm like, okay, I don't know anything about money, 149 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: so let me start reading about money. And even in college, 150 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: college wasn't you know a thing where I was thinking 151 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: about the NFL. I was thinking about, Okay, I got 152 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: a scholarship. Good that you ation had a good institution. 153 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: Let me focus on school. And then junior year, I 154 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: think that was a year that Richard Sherman had a 155 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: big year. And you know, TV analysts, we're talking about 156 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: big corner six d pound. I'm six pounds, I got 157 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: long arms, I can run a little bit, So I said, okay, 158 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: junior year I started to really focus on ball and 159 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: start to uh watch more film and stuff like that. 160 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: Like I said, I was. I was always willing to 161 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: put in the work, but I I just did a 162 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: little bit more to kind of put myself in a 163 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: position to go to the NFL. Now you did something 164 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: that's usually just the opposite. So I played twelve years 165 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: at cornerback. I went to safety for two years. You 166 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: start out at safety, drafted with d Dallas Cowboys, Right, 167 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: I feel like the Cowboy Fairs right now in my ears, 168 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: like that's my man, right, you go from safety to cornerback. 169 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: What was that adjust my life? It was fun though, 170 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, I kind of came into the league understanding 171 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: that I could bounce around. Truthfully, I wasn't really that 172 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: good at corner coming in the guys who are ahead 173 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: of me, Brandon car and mol Clayborn and those guys 174 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: really turned it up. Those guys are really good. I 175 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: remember watching those guys in practice and seeing the intensity 176 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: and the focus in their eyes. I'm like, yeah, dry 177 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: to me to start over these guys, I'm like, I 178 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if I got the juice. 179 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: But like I said, I take things day by day 180 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: and kind of just work at things, and an opportunity 181 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: came open at I think it was like Game four 182 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: at safety, and I kind of made the best of 183 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: that opportunity, and that kind of stuck me back there 184 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: for for three years. And then honestly, at the end 185 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: of the three year mark, I wasn't really doing good 186 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: at safety. You know. It's kind of rotating in At 187 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: the end of my third year in the league, and 188 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: that year and were bringing a new coach, and he 189 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: looks at me and says, you're not a safety year 190 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: of corner, and I'll make your lockdown corner. If you 191 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: do these three things, you'll be fine. Who was the coach? 192 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: This is Christopher Shard. What are the three things? He said? 193 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: Once you stay on top, eliminate the top, stay on top, 194 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: eliminate the fadeball, and to be good tackling. My first 195 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: year at Corneen went All Pro and the obviously Pro Bowl. 196 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: So following his word of helped me out. But he 197 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: saw that, he saw the talent and me at a 198 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: different position in a different system, And thank God for 199 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: him coming through at that moment because it wasn't looking 200 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: so bright for me at that point. Byron, going into 201 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: my fourth year, Robert Ryan, his twin brother, he gets 202 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: the defensive back coaching position. First time I resigned back. 203 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: Going into my fourth year, he puts his arms around 204 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: and he says, Anias you can lead this league and interceptions, 205 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: you can make All Pro, make the Pro Bowl. That's 206 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: the first year I did it. Year four manimes journey rights, 207 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: persistence is staying on the course and you know your best. 208 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: What's it like playing for Jerry Jones? What was that. 209 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: It was dope. Any any stadium he went to was 210 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: a home game for us. It's every where you go, 211 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: and you feel the energy from the fans, you know, 212 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: I first got that down to out. It's almost uncomfortable 213 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: how deeply rooted football is. And from basketball land at 214 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't see tattoos of football teams on people's body 215 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: like that. When I came to Dology, that's all you see. 216 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: But you you learn to respect it, and you learned 217 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: to appreciate that love and appreciation for the game. And 218 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, it was fun. It was definitely fun being there, 219 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: But different things nowadays. Financial literacy. You're a player. You 220 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm hearing all your It's almost like your epiphanies come 221 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: from daily discovery of yourself. Financial literacy. You start reading 222 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: books and what did you learn. What was the first 223 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: finance book you read. I think It's Rich that Poor 224 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: that that was my first one. I read it like 225 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: a couple of David Ramsey books. I read a Millionaire 226 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: next Door. But honestly, I watched a lot of YouTube 227 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: videos too. You can condense, you know, a whole book 228 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: of knowledge within a ten minute video, just very clearly 229 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: and concisely, so just learning about stocks and bonds. I'm 230 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: in age of twenty three, I'm on investipated, Like looking 231 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: at what a stock and bond is that it doesn't 232 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: make sense to me. I don't understand this, And just 233 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: kind of seeing my growth from that point to now 234 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: is that's a dope part. That's for me, that's exciting, 235 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: Like I knew nothing about this space and now I 236 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: feel like I'm heavily invasive and invested in. You know, 237 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: so many different aspects of the financial world. Your teammates, 238 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: do you find that there are as intriguing as you 239 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: are as or least to finance, And what's that tension 240 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: like having that mindset it may be seeing some of 241 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: your fellow teammates not necessarily engaging like that. Yeah, it's 242 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: just it's just guys are young, and we're not explosed. 243 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: We don't come from money, and they're not teaching in school. 244 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: So I try to be understanding with the guys like, hey, 245 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: I know you want I know you want this stuff, 246 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: but let's create a plan for it. That's level three 247 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: on level one right now, Let's just take your time 248 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: being there. And guys have been receptive, They listen and 249 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: that's the cool part about being a veteran older player 250 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: is the younger guys they look up to and they listen. 251 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: It's exciting. But I'll tell you this, a lot of 252 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: guys in locker room we talk about investments. Guys talked 253 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: about cryptocurrency. You guys talk about real estate nowadays. So 254 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: the conversation is more prevalent nowadays. And then I would 255 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: say even my rookie year. To be honest, you the 256 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: one thing that I admire about the current generation. You 257 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: guys awoke as they call it. You're in the community, 258 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: you're working, and we'll talk about what you just did. 259 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: We're here at the draft. A couple of weeks ago. 260 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: You start a bank account with elementary school kids. Forty 261 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: Tell me about that. So it's actually it's a partnership 262 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: with the NFL p A and Goal Center and um 263 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: we came up with a program to number one, educate 264 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: kids and kind of plant that seat in their head 265 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: earlier about how to make money, how to protect money, 266 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: how to grow money. And then we kind of give 267 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: them the educational tools within the Gals Center app to 268 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: teach them exactly what to learn and how to learn it. 269 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: And then we're actually give them some skin in the game, 270 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: bring us a little bit of money. And I told him, 271 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: I said, I know for you that is I sound 272 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: like much now, But if you guys just do it right, man, 273 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: you guys can have a pretty good nest egg. And 274 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean as you guys get out of college and 275 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: obviously become adults. But I think that most important port 276 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: I taught the kids are just like, it's really about 277 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: your time in the market. Just I know you guys 278 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: are young, You're not thinking about ten years down the road, 279 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: but you'd be very happy if you just invested a 280 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: couple of bucks per year. And if you have, if 281 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: you have the chance to put some money in your 282 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 1: investment account, and you'll watch how it grows from there. 283 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: But I just we just want to plant the seed 284 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: in the kid's heads early to understand that there's a 285 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: bigger world out there. You don't have to work all 286 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: the time for your money. You can let it grow. 287 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: You can let the money do the work for you. 288 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: How important would it be to get in our communities 289 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: in particular, this understanding at the elementary level, What were 290 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: the kids like were they A lot of questions didn't 291 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: come back to a kid, Mr Byron, if we know 292 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: about that, but what what kind of car you drive? 293 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: I speak to kids about this often, and I spoke 294 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: to my college team a couple of weeks ago, but 295 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: this session I kind of talked at them a little 296 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: bit and um, there's actually another teacher before me. That 297 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: kind of went and I called the kids out because 298 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: she was asking questions and kids weren't really answering. I said, 299 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: the guys, if you want to be successful in this world, 300 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: you have to apply yourself. You can't just sit down 301 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: with your head hood on and you're leaning over in 302 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: a chair and expect to get the information. You have 303 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: to really engage with it. That was a hounds. Besides, 304 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: the financial literacy part was challenging the kids would be 305 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: more engaged in the classroom and being more interactive in 306 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: the classroom. But no, the kids typically ask really good 307 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: questions and and I tell them like, hey, guys, ask 308 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: me anything, money, cars and women, you know, clothing, anything 309 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: you want to ask me. I'm I'm an open book 310 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: and I just want to just set some light on 311 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: stuff that kids may not feel comfortable asking your parents, 312 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: or maybe they even hear their parents say it. Just 313 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: it hits differitely when it comes from Is there a 314 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: bank that you're working with that you've partnered with with 315 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: with that in particular, I let gold Set are kind 316 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: of take care of that. But you know, as long 317 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: as the bank is willing to work with us and 318 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: kind of help these kids out to understand it, then 319 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: we're willing to have business with anybody. I guess you 320 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: nominated twenty for the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award. 321 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: When did the community become important to you? At twenty? 322 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: Like a lot of people, you know, there's a lot 323 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: of people talking and Twitter stuff, Facebook stuff, and I 324 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: look myself in Americas, like, am I doing enough for 325 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: my community? And the answer was no? And that was 326 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: very disappointing. And I'm in this incredible position, have so 327 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: much influence, I have capital, and I ain't doing nothing. 328 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'm not gonna be that person. 329 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: And again and I just realized, I see, you know 330 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: what I am now and what I want to be. 331 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: So I said, okay, I'm gonna change that. The Miami 332 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: Dolphins was they were really instrumental in kind of forming 333 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: this Impact committee that we have, and we started with 334 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: a group of guys, and they kind of focus on 335 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: three different things, you know, specific engagement, you know, education, 336 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: and economic empowerment. We kind of focus our minds and 337 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: attention on three buckets because you know, we're football players 338 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: number one, you know, but we want to kind of 339 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: put our time in the most effective buckets as you will, 340 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: versus being spread up, versus being spread out and trying 341 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,119 Speaker 1: to do everything at once, and just having the conversations 342 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: with the with the players are players engagement? Kleb Thorn 343 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: Hill has been intrumental in kind of setting those meetings 344 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: up for us and really hooking us up with the 345 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: right community leaders to talk to. It's not I mean 346 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: about us doing it, it's about empowering people in the 347 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: community who are already doing what we want to do 348 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: um and kind of giving the money or given them 349 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: the access or an influence that we have and helping 350 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: them out and achieve their goal. How has it been 351 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: working with with the owner, Stephen Ross, I know he 352 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: was once on the players coalition. It's been engaging in 353 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: a lot of work and in the community. What's that's 354 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 1: been like. It's been fun. Mr Ross is very active 355 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: in the community. He's had you know a couple of 356 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: conversations with the players, just speaking very frankly about how 357 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: we feel about certain environments to police racial tensions. He's 358 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: been a part of those conversations. Uh, the CEO, Tom 359 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: Garfiel has been a part of those conversations too. So, 360 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,079 Speaker 1: I mean I was able to we're up a fun 361 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: construction trade program with fm U along with Lennar Foundations 362 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: to seven hundred thousand dollars, so pretty much teach anyone 363 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: high school dropouts, returning citizens how to learn the trades 364 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: of building and constructing, whether it's flooring, electricals, eight vac. 365 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: Because hospitality and construction are the two biggest industries in Miami. 366 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: So that's the economic empowerment bucket that we kind of 367 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: focused on. And Mr Ross wrote a pretty pretty big 368 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: check for that. So and how important it is for 369 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: when guys do get the epithan and when they realized, 370 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: like you ask yourself, man, what am I doing in 371 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: this space? How important it is to narrow it down 372 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: because we could be all over the place. Like I said, 373 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: you can't be all over the place. You gotta figure out, Okay, 374 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: what are the most impactful things that I can spend 375 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: my limited time on and kind of go from there. 376 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: And but the tough part is being consistent in having 377 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: the great perseverance through a lot of the roadblocks that 378 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: are going to be in your way, and you gotta 379 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: come correct. But in these meeting, you talked to the superintendent, 380 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: you talked to a legislator of congressman and congresswoman. You 381 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: gotta ask the right questions to get the answers that 382 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: you're looking for and get the clarity that you're looking for. 383 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of preparation, a lot of phone calls, 384 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: but it's about pushing through it. You know, I do 385 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: it in football all the time. Why not do it 386 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: in other spaces? Speaking of the legislation you in turn 387 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: in Connecticut legislature, my AU basketball coach was actually the 388 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: speaker of the house. I know this when I was 389 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: playing basketball for him, and I figured, I'm like, yeah, 390 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: I know what I dude up there, that's that's my 391 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: AU coach. So um, I was studying political science at 392 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: the time. You know. The person that encouraged me to 393 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: do that was Barack Obama. You know, two thousand and a. 394 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm sitting down here and something I would have 395 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: knows like me and ears like me on the TV 396 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: talking about politics and in the economy, and maybe I can. 397 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: I'll try that in college if that's like. I just 398 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: found the classes very engaging and very enlightening. So um, 399 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: I kind of took that path early on in college. 400 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: So I said, let me get an internship, and I got. 401 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: I went into the state legislature, and then I went 402 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: to the nation's capital as angs like a congress congressional 403 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: staffer too, much like those environments where it seems so 404 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: tension of tension there. It was very important for me 405 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: because I realized what I didn't want to do. But 406 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: it's really it's really cool to kind of learn and 407 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: the workings of policy at that level. Everyone thinks of 408 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: the congressmen are congress women to kind of running the show, 409 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: but they have a whole staff, sometimes between twenty and 410 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: fifty people, depending on if their senator or or in 411 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: the or in the House. And these people are brilliant, 412 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: they're smart, you know, honestly, they're from not making much 413 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: money and they're working ridiculous hours, but they're doing it 414 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: for the betterment of their community, their their district or whatnot. 415 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: And it just I just wouldn't cut out for that. 416 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: You know, I learned very quickly, like that's a different 417 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: ball game. But I appreciated the time going there and 418 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: kind of learning that for myself. Quick question about the 419 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: cornerback position. Six total interceptions? How many p vus last year? 420 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: Maybe ten? So you just did people are throwing into you, 421 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: throwing you away? You know our defense is good. The 422 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: other body on the other side, it was exact. Yes, yes, 423 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: I watch you guys. It's amazing secondary And now you're 424 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: building with coach Flores. Yes, you were talking earlier before 425 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: we got on camera. You excited about what was being 426 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: built there. Oh yeah, of course. You know. That was 427 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: a big component of me going to Miami was understanding 428 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: the potential of a young team with so much draft 429 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: capital and kind of seeing a young coaching staff want 430 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: to kind of put this program in a different light. 431 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: And I saw that and I felt that when I 432 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: spoke to them. I spoke to a lot of teams, 433 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: and they were the only team that said, hey, man, 434 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: you're good at X, Y and Z, but you need 435 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: to be better at A, B and C. I was like, 436 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: I like that, Yeah, other teams, you're the best. I'm 437 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: gonna pay you everything. You're gonna make a team around. 438 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: We're gonna build a team around. You'm like, it sounds 439 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: good at first, but it's like, I don't really like that. 440 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: I want to be coached. And they were really really 441 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: upfront with that from day one, and it was my 442 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: first talk meeting with them. They said, hey, you're good, 443 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: that this needs to be better at that, and um 444 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: I really respected that. And seeing the draft capital that 445 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: they had a bunch of first round picks a bunch 446 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: of second round picks, I said, no, Mammy can be 447 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: doing something special. I want to be part of that. 448 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: I want to be at the ground floor. You know, 449 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: quick hits, we out of here. Who is your NFL idol? 450 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: And have you ever met? I'll be honest, I didn't 451 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: watch any football growing up. Watch. Yeah, my dad was 452 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: the Giants fans. I watched Giants game, so I met 453 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: all right. I guess Eli Manning was like the guy 454 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: over the Giants. I didn't meet him personally. I played 455 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: I played against the many times. So all right, here 456 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: we go. Best trash talking wide receiving the league. I'm 457 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: not even a wide receiver. Best tray stalker everest cam 458 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: newe Really he has a massive degree trash all day. Yes, really, yes, 459 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: And I played him a couple of times so obviously 460 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: in New England and then when he was at the Panther. 461 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: But that man can go. Now if you talk to him, 462 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: he don't get you right back. You're gonna be quiet. Okay. 463 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: Final question, which is better Dallas barbecue Miamibano sandwich? Man? 464 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: I say I like barbecue man, I'm a barbecue guy. Barbecue. 465 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm with that. I haven't had the sandwich. 466 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: Had to be honest and well not there like that. 467 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: So we'll try. Thank you, appreciate you being thank you. 468 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: The best is yet to come. Keep up the grade. Work. 469 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: To provide feedback or request the topic for discussion, email 470 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: Let's at NFL Legends at nfl dot com.