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Speaker 1: twenty selections this year, it sounds like, especially knowing there's

427
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Speaker 1: a dearth of quarterbacks, right, so it won't be quarterbacks

428
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Speaker 1: pushing other talent down the board. It's gonna be defensive ends.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting because we're gonna be at the Combine

430
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Speaker 1: the rest of this week. It's gonna be fun to

431
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Speaker 1: see because when the quarterbacks come in, I mean, nobody

432
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Speaker 1: expects anybody to whow him, except there's this quarterback like

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Speaker 1: a Malik Willis from Liberty, physically gifted, physically gifted. And

434
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Speaker 1: you know what as well as I do Brown, those

435
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Speaker 1: guys get out there with those stop watches and the

436
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: tape measures, and they watch these guys and they see

437
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Speaker 1: how fast the ball comes out, and they're like going, non,

438
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Speaker 1: watch the film again. It's true. Yeah, um it happens. Yeah,

439
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Speaker 1: you got and the same thing Desmond Rider, who's a

440
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Speaker 1: quarterback out of Cincinnati, you know. And then they you know.

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Speaker 1: And I was reminded today I was reading all the

442
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Speaker 1: articles on this leading up to this, and we said

443
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Speaker 1: it a bunch. We'll sign will continue to say it

444
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Speaker 1: all weeks, so bear with us. The Combine in the

445
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Speaker 1: big very beginning, it's genesis came from all the clubs

446
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: wanting the same medical so they brought these guys in

447
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: there just to look at them with a stethoscope, not

448
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: a stopwatch. Yeah, I mean that's what it was all about.

449
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: And then they also wanted to sit down. This is

450
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Speaker 1: after they Bill Polling and Marv and all these guys,

451
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: even God rest his soul ed Stillwell, they used to

452
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: pull who was the security guy. And most teams have

453
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: like law enforcement guys on the payroll because they're really

454
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Speaker 1: good at asking questions like cross examining. They use lawyers,

455
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: they use cops. It's funny, but it's true because those

456
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: guys are like, they don't mind the confrontation, you know,

457
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Speaker 1: So they get all these guys. They started back in

458
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Speaker 1: Bill and Marv's day, back in the eighties and going

459
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Speaker 1: into the nineties, they started sitting these guys down. They

460
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Speaker 1: started asking them questions. Well then now it's like, oh

461
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: my gosh, they're you know, a smart move. So then

462
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: that got added to the combine. They'd sit these guys down,

463
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: they bring them all into they could sit down with them.

464
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: So it was about medicals. It was about looking the

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Speaker 1: guy in the eye and saying, Okay, what are you

466
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Speaker 1: gonna do? And I ask you about your your coach,

467
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: head college coach, how'd they use you? What do you think?

468
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: And all that stuff kind of getting some getting them

469
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Speaker 1: to open up about their career. Now. Of course, when

470
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Speaker 1: TV got involved, then they want to see they want

471
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Speaker 1: to see, you know, the Olympics, right, So so even

472
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: now it's about that, and it's gonna be fun to

473
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Speaker 1: see how some of these guys get tested and how

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Speaker 1: they look. We're gonna talk about some of those guys

475
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Speaker 1: in the next segment here because in my travels I

476
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Speaker 1: came across a guy that might know a thing or

477
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Speaker 1: two about some of these top prospects. We'll get into

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Speaker 1: that when we return here on One Bills Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned I was traveling on the weekend doing the

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Speaker 1: college visit thing with our son, and one of the

483
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Speaker 1: stops was Athens, Georgia for the University of Georgia. Steve,

484
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Speaker 1: and as you know, since we had him on the

485
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Speaker 1: show just last month giving us a National Championship game preview,

486
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Speaker 1: former Bill's offensive tackle Jonas Jennings is the director of

487
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Speaker 1: player development down there, so I told him we were

488
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Speaker 1: coming down. Hey can we stop by? Just say hey?

489
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: I had some Bill swag to bring him from our

490
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Speaker 1: alumni director Jeremy Kelly. So he's like, yeah, I got

491
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Speaker 1: half an hour on Friday, you know, twelve to twelve thirty.

492
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Speaker 1: I was like, we'll be there. So we show up,

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Speaker 1: catch up with Jonas. He takes us around the entire

494
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: football facility and the whole thing is literally brand new.

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Speaker 1: They just built it last fall. It is gleaming, and

496
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Speaker 1: it's all on campus, like, it's not this detached satellite

497
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Speaker 1: thing right there. They mixed their players in well housing wise, yes,

498
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Speaker 1: so there are a lot of schools that give their athletes,

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Speaker 1: you know, the swankiest housing you know, on campus, and

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Speaker 1: they isolate them from the rest of the student body.

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Speaker 1: All the athletes live over here. It might be from

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Speaker 1: different teams, but all the athletes live in this dorm,

503
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Some schools do that. Georgia

504
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: mixes in all their athletes with the regular student body.

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Speaker 1: I think that's kind of a cool thing. So they

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Speaker 1: do that. But in any event, Jonas is walking us around.

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Speaker 1: Here's herschel Walker's Heisman trophy, you know, here's the national

508
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: championship trophy already on display. All this stuff, and they

509
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Speaker 1: got walls of all the players that ever, you know, lettermen,

510
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Speaker 1: all time, lettermen, this, that and the other. Take us

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Speaker 1: to the indoor practice facility. And I said to him,

512
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Speaker 1: I said, why do you guys need an indoor practice facility?

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Speaker 1: And he says, we get a lot of lightning down here,

514
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Speaker 1: and when you have lightning, you're you're done for the day.

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Speaker 1: He said. Even when I played, you know, in the

516
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Speaker 1: late nineties, he said, I lost reps because we didn't

517
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Speaker 1: have an indoor practice facility. We got lightning, We're done

518
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Speaker 1: for the day. Right, So they have an indoor practice

519
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Speaker 1: facility there. Don't forget that. That is impressive. Oh yeah,

520
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: don't forget. They had the Rams had to stop a

521
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Speaker 1: game earlier this year. They've got a roof on theirs,

522
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: but it doesn't have any walls, so they had to

523
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Speaker 1: stop the game because of lightning. Yep. Yeah, So we're

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Speaker 1: you know, so we're talking and you know, messing, you know,

525
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: joking around and this that and the other, because I

526
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Speaker 1: hadn't seen him, you know, sixteen seventeen years, and then

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Speaker 1: we start talking about the guys because I'm saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to the combine next week. I said, I

529
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Speaker 1: really like that guy. You got Vante Wyatt. He goes, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna wow some people in Indie. I said, well, okay, Jonas,

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Speaker 1: everybody says that about, you know, some of the top prospects.

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Speaker 1: He goes, now, I'm telling you. I said, well, look,

533
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Speaker 1: I said, Steve and I are already impressed with his tape.

534
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Speaker 1: When we saw three hundred and fifteen pound man being

535
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Speaker 1: used as a spy on the Heisman Trophy winner Bryce

536
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Speaker 1: Young from Alabama and then caught him twenty yards down

537
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Speaker 1: field when he scrambled, we were impressed. He goes, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna do a lot of that. I said, why.

539
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: He goes, he might run in the four sevenths. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's bad. He's three hundred and fifteen pounds, six foot four.

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Speaker 1: He said he might run in the four sevens. He

542
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Speaker 1: may run sub four eight, which is insane. If he's

543
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Speaker 1: demand that large. Yeah, if he's been trained for depends

544
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Speaker 1: on the training. I mean, you know, we'll see. Well,

545
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Speaker 1: so let me let me give you a little background.

546
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Speaker 1: He not only played football in basketball, he ran track.

547
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Speaker 1: I heard this and Jonas is one of Jonas's good friends.

548
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: He and this other guy coached together in high school

549
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: before Jonas took the job at Georgia, and then Jonas

550
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: got out of coaching, his friend moved on to I

551
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Speaker 1: believe it's called Tri Cities, which eventually was where Davantay

552
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Speaker 1: Wyatt went to high school. Davantay Wyatt is two hundred

553
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Speaker 1: and eighty pounds as a junior in high school, and

554
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Speaker 1: he is unning one hundred meter dash for the track

555
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Speaker 1: team in Air Force once. The kid doesn't even have

556
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Speaker 1: a decent pair of track shoes, you know with the

557
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Speaker 1: spikes on the ball of your foot, you know, high tops.

558
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: He's wearing Air Force one high tops at two hundred

559
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Speaker 1: and eighty pounds, and he's beating everyone. So the way

560
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Speaker 1: Jonas tells the story is he says, my buddy that

561
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Speaker 1: he used to call high school football was says, hey,

562
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Speaker 1: I got a kid for you. He goes, oh yeah.

563
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Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, get your phone, I'm gonna send you

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Speaker 1: a video. So he sends him a video of Davante

565
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Speaker 1: Wyatt at two hundred and eighty pounds in air Force ones,

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Speaker 1: blowing the doors off of everybody in the hundred meter dash,

567
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Speaker 1: including guys that are one hundred pounds lighter than him.

568
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Speaker 1: And he goes Okay, Jonas makes the smart decision to

569
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Speaker 1: walk down the hall to Kirby Smart's office and he says,

570
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Speaker 1: I got a video I need to show you. He

571
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Speaker 1: plays the video Kirby Smart. The first thing Kirby says

572
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Speaker 1: to me, he goes, get that guy in here tomorrow.

573
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Speaker 1: I would have said, I would have said two other words,

574
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Speaker 1: offer him two hundred and eighty pounds that he's blowing

575
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Speaker 1: people's doors off in the hundred me. Can you imagine

576
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Speaker 1: if he runs a four seven something at the combine

577
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Speaker 1: at three fifteen, they're talking about his teammate. Guy like that,

578
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Speaker 1: A guy like that could be, particularly the way he

579
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: played for George big time. He could be. He'll be

580
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Speaker 1: top five pick. I think he's gonna move up the

581
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: board a lot, sadly because and I hate to say it,

582
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Speaker 1: I think he might be out of reach of the

583
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Speaker 1: bills at twenty five unless they make some move up

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Speaker 1: the board. If he slides as far as twenty. You

585
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: know he's he is versatile, he is, He's got a

586
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Speaker 1: lot of stuff. He had a tough, you know, upbringing.

587
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Speaker 1: As we said, you know he's running around an air

588
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: Force ones on the track team. They don't have a

589
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Speaker 1: decent pair of track shoes. But yeah, it was an

590
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Speaker 1: interesting story to hear from Jonas. And he said, Jordan

591
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: Davis pretty damn good kid too. He I said, well,

592
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: you know, why what do you like about him and stuff?

593
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: He goes, nobody can move him. He said, I haven't

594
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Speaker 1: found anybody that can move him yet. He goes, he's

595
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Speaker 1: like Ted Washington. Now, Jonas didn't play with Ted. Teded

596
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: left the year before Jonas got here, but he played

597
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: alongside Ruben Brown for four seasons, so he knew of

598
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: Ted and the kind of player he was, and he

599
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: probably played against him a couple of times before Ted

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Speaker 1: hung it up. And he said, Jordan's gonna run well too.

601
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Speaker 1: He said, Jordan's gonna surprise people, you know with three

602
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 1: fifty five, three sixty. I told you, man, But he said,

603
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Speaker 1: the kid that's really gonna impress people is the kid

604
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Speaker 1: that's gonna go first off the board from Georgia, and

605
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: that's the defensive end, Trayvon Walker. He'll be a top

606
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Speaker 1: ten pick. He watched five or something. He was number

607
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Speaker 1: forty five for Georgia or something like that. Yeah, he

608
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: kind of looked like a linebacker almost, but he's you know,

609
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: he's an edge size bigger. Yeah, he might only have

610
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Speaker 1: two guys going front him in the National Championship the

611
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: way Georgia did in the end SEC and be like

612
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Speaker 1: number one or number two the entire season without having

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Speaker 1: some guys. And that you can do things in the

614
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Speaker 1: pro college game that you really have a hard time

615
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: getting together in the pro game unless it's him by

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00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: chance or a guy dropping out of the sky. Those

617
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Speaker 1: guys at Georgia, they had a D line that was

618
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Speaker 1: dominant against everybody. They're all gonna be first round picks dominant.

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Speaker 1: And that's and it's we've talked about it on the show.

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Speaker 1: It's it's the Holy Grail. That's why teams get in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl if they have a matchup like that

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Speaker 1: that they win. Allah. The Seattle Seahawks against the Peyton

623
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: Manning Denver Broncos where they crushed them. Allah, the Tampa

624
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers against the Kansas City Chiefs when they're two

625
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: tackles didn't make the game because they were hurt, so

626
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: they got you know, they got crushed. The New York

627
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: Giants against Tom Brady and the Patriots when they were

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Speaker 1: seventeen sixteen and oh seventeen to eighteen and o and

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Speaker 1: then went nineteen and one. You know, against Giant losing

630
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. That's because of the pass rush. It's

631
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: a magic elixir, but you can't get it done enough.

632
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: It's too hard to do, so you got to do

633
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: it other ways. But when you've got guys like like

634
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: we're talking about that are different, you can do that

635
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: at the college level and the others jump out. And

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Speaker 1: the other starter on that front was thinking about coming

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Speaker 1: out this year, he decided to go back for one

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Speaker 1: more year. Jonah's like he's gonna be a first round

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Speaker 1: pick next year. So yeah, basically the four starters on

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Speaker 1: the d line for Georgia and their national championship team

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Speaker 1: are all going to be first round picks in these

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Speaker 1: next two dress I'll say this without without the NIL stuff,

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00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: the name, image and likeness stuff, that kid probably has

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00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: to come out, you know what I mean. I like

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00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: the NIL stuff for the NCAA gives guys a chance.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I can take care of my family

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00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: a little bit. I can do some things for them,

648
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: and still, you know, the best thing for my football

649
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: career be to stay in Polish. Best thing for my

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Speaker 1: family would be to make money, but I'm doing it

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Speaker 1: enough now that I can give it another year at

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Speaker 1: Georgia and instead of being the sixty sixth pick of

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Speaker 1: the draft, I could be the sixteenth pick of the draft,

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Speaker 1: and then we're then you know, it's a different it's

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Speaker 1: a different life. Let's go to the phones at eight

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Speaker 1: oh three five fifty one, eight eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 1: five fifty we got John in Syracuse. Next, what do

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Speaker 1: you have for us? John? Thanks you for thinking my

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Speaker 1: college gentleman um. Before I get to my question, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I remember you back in nineteen eighty five. You're part

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Speaker 1: of a charity basketball game my old high school, Syling

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Speaker 1: the Arch. You with Metsalars and Rob Britick and Pete

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00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: could play, so it was alost appreciate those good stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a long time ago, but yeah, it's fun stuff.

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Speaker 1: I've got a couple of comment slash questions. Number one,

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Speaker 1: i'd deal of the league put themselves in this quarterback

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00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 1: situation buying because of quarterback driven league, and you see

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00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: so many teams, in fact, I see almost half the

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Speaker 1: league struggling at that position. And uh, I'm a truck

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Speaker 1: driver and what I see going on in the transportation

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00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: business with used equipment trucks and stuff. Is that, in fact,

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Speaker 1: the prices are a way above value because the lack

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Speaker 1: of thereo is And I'm seeing the same thing going

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Speaker 1: on here. I mean, like like take Cleveland for example,

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Speaker 1: what are they gonna do with Baker Mayfield. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like you're darned if you're

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Speaker 1: doing You're darned if you don't. And then there's other

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Speaker 1: teams that are gonna be struggled, like Pittsburgh, the Jets

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Speaker 1: as usual, and you know Atlanta and I and and

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Speaker 1: how that you think is gonna you know, Affectum Stadium,

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00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: you know licensing and you know fans renewing, you know,

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Speaker 1: with the you know, the price of tickets and lack

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Speaker 1: of quarterback play. And I'll just thank you for taking

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Speaker 1: my calling. Yeah, it's you're right. And I think the

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Speaker 1: league has moved away from We've talked about how the

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Speaker 1: game itself is not as quarterback centric as it used

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Speaker 1: to be. It used to be. I mean some of

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Speaker 1: these teams you couldn't you forget it. Now you got

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00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 1: guys like Lamar Jackson. They're athletes and they can throw

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Speaker 1: it and they're using them in the run game. And

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Speaker 1: the league is being administrated and officiated in such a

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Speaker 1: way as to allow guys to play the quarterback position

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Speaker 1: in a more unique way. And because of that, there

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Speaker 1: are more guys available and able to be difference makers

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Speaker 1: for their team than there used to be. It used

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Speaker 1: to be they all looked the same. But I think

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Speaker 1: John's right though half the league is struggling at the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position, and that drives the price up. It's the

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00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: whole supply and demand thing, and that's why a guy

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Speaker 1: like Kyler Murray feels like he's got the Cardinals over

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Speaker 1: a barrel. But I'll say that's why he's not worried

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Speaker 1: about making a public demand for a new contract, even

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Speaker 1: after making that demand to the team already. I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: though it used to be, it wasn't half the team,

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Speaker 1: it was eighty five percent of the team that didn't

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Speaker 1: have that guy. That's how rare they used to be. Now,

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Speaker 1: I mean, now you've got some guys out there that

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Speaker 1: you feel like you could win with and be competitive with.

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Speaker 1: I mean, certainly you say the names and everybody's like,

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Speaker 1: but there would have been teams for decades who would

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Speaker 1: have loved to have had Andy Dalton or Kirk Cousins.

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00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: I mean, just give us a guy. Yeah, we're you know,

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Speaker 1: we're living and dying over here with you know, these

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Speaker 1: guys that can't play at all. Yeah, And so now

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00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: you've got a wider range of guys who do it

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Speaker 1: their own way. Certainly there are the Philip Rivers and

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Speaker 1: that Ben Roethlisbergers of the world. But there's also the

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and the Lamar Jackson, the Josh Allens and

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Speaker 1: you know, the Russell Wilsons of the world. And it's

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Speaker 1: just a more open and competitive market where they're more

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Speaker 1: guys that you feel like we got a chance with him, right,

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00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: and and decades pass the is no ways Kyler Murray's

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Speaker 1: contract tactic an exception or will it soon be the

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Speaker 1: norm in the NFL. You can give us a call

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Speaker 1: at eight oh three fifty let us know what you think.

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Speaker 1: We're back with more, including Tony Pauline from the Draft Network.

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00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: We'll be catching up with him in the second hour

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Speaker 1: of the show when we return. Here on one Bills

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Speaker 1: Live presented by Collat of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to one Bills Live, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you here on a Monday before we

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Speaker 1: head out to Indianapolis for your Combine coverage, your comprehensive

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Speaker 1: con Brian coverage from Tuesday through Friday, where we'll be

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Speaker 1: checking in with everybody from Brandon Bean and head coach

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, two coaches on the Competition Committee, to gms

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Speaker 1: around the league, to league analysts. We'll have it covered

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Speaker 1: for you here on one Bills Live, so'll be sure

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Speaker 1: to stay tuned all week long. We do want to

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Speaker 1: go back to the phones where we've got Trevor in

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Speaker 1: Messina waiting. What do you have for us? Trevor? Hey,

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Speaker 1: you got can you hear me? Yeah? We got Jed awesome. Yeah,

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00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 1: thank you for taking a call. Just wanted to get

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Speaker 1: your guys opinion. I haven't. I always like trying to

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00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: scout all the players myself and trying to do a

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00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: fun modcaft, but I haven't got on a chance that

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Speaker 1: this year. But talking about the Georgia lineman, one thing

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Speaker 1: that I started to notice kind of a resemblance of

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Speaker 1: was the Clemson lineman back when you know, clown Farrelle

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Speaker 1: Christy Wilkins, Exter Lawrence, and uh, I think it's Austin Bryant.

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Speaker 1: Oh got draft. You know, three of those guys went

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Speaker 1: in the first round, and I was, from my personal opinion,

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Speaker 1: really only one that I was wild by watching him

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Speaker 1: was Kristin Wilkins, because I thought the other guys were

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Speaker 1: very schemed open, such as Clouin Farrell. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: you've been a bust and just watching his film. Most

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Speaker 1: of his saxon against tight ends or running backs that

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Speaker 1: I saw, and so I'm just curious how how these

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Speaker 1: Georgia lemons stack up against him, if they're actually physically

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Speaker 1: beating guys one on one, or if they're you know,

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Speaker 1: getting scheme open, if they're having double team to tackles

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Speaker 1: and having the sacrifice blockers for Trayvon Walker or something

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Speaker 1: like that. He's getting a very favorable matchup that he

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Speaker 1: wouldn't normally see in the NFL. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting

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Speaker 1: that you mentioned that, Trevor, because there were some people

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Speaker 1: that are actually knocking DeVante Wyatt for not having more

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Speaker 1: productive stats than he does. But when you see him

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Speaker 1: dropping into coverage and being used as a spy as

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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle, that's part of the reason why he

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00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: was not really schemed at all times to have production,

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Speaker 1: whether it was in the run game or the past game.

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Speaker 1: At least that's what some of the guys that can

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Speaker 1: really grind on the film will tell you. Yes, Trayvon Walker,

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Speaker 1: the defensive end who's not on this list of defense

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Speaker 1: of tackles, we've got Davis and Wyatt from Georgia on

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Speaker 1: the top there that our MSG viewers are seeing. Yeah,

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00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: those two guys played alongside one another. They also had

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Speaker 1: other guys rotate in because they are that talented and

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Speaker 1: that deep. Trayvon Walker is probably gonna be the first

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Speaker 1: of that group that's gonna come off the board. He'll

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Speaker 1: probably be a top ten pick. And yes, he did

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00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: demand extra attention from opposing offenses. Davis, you know, was

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Speaker 1: a dominant interior player who was great against the run.

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Speaker 1: Was often brought off the field when it was obvious

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Speaker 1: passing situations because they had better guys they could roll

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Speaker 1: in for him. He's and I'll say this about about

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Speaker 1: Jordan Davis. We've got a lot of talk about him

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Speaker 1: because he's so massive. He's six six three fifty plus.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's in North he's just sticks out

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Speaker 1: on any television screen or any setting. Even when they're

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Speaker 1: seeing it on the all twenty two, the guy's like,

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Speaker 1: what is that guy out of scale? Or what? He's

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Speaker 1: so big? And the problem with him is that team

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00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: didn't even make any bones about it. Teams when he

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Speaker 1: was on the field, they tried to throw when he

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Speaker 1: was on the field, and they didn't want to run

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Speaker 1: it when he was on the field. Conversely, that Georgia

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00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: Bulldogs themselves would take him off the field when they

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Speaker 1: knew the team was gonna throw it, so it he

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Speaker 1: was so massive, he was changing the game plan and

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Speaker 1: the play calls for these college coaches and their philosophies

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Speaker 1: about how they're going to play the game and mine

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Speaker 1: and I've talked to the Brown I've said, okay, you

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00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: kind of want a guy who's got some versatility. But

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Speaker 1: for me, think about the Bills in the division they're in.

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Speaker 1: They got Mac Jones and they've got twa on two

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00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: of the teams. Those two teams need to run the

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Speaker 1: ball to be effective offensively, both philosophically and skill set

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Speaker 1: wise with the quarterbacks to maximize the quarter If so,

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Speaker 1: I think a player like Jordan Davis is an absolute

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00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: perfect fit for Buffalo Bills because in this division, except

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Speaker 1: for Josh and you know, Zach Wilson will see he

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00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: missed some games. But in this division you got a

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Speaker 1: couple of quarterbacks. You you, they gotta run the ball

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Speaker 1: to be successful. Yeah, and if the guy like Jordan Davis,

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Speaker 1: he neutralizes that that that you know, undercuts their philosophy, right,

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Speaker 1: and that's the job of every scout in this league.

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Speaker 1: You know, Okay, they took him off the field, you

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00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: know an obvious passing was just why because they didn't

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Speaker 1: think he's good enough, or because they have somebody who's

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Speaker 1: a really good pass rusher that can rush from the Injuria,

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Speaker 1: which Georgia has that kind of depth. They just roll

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Speaker 1: another guy in. Well, this guy is better at that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jordan's our best rundefender, but this guy can

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Speaker 1: get after the passer from the inside. Put him next

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00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: to Davante Wyatt and off you go. So those are

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Speaker 1: the kinds of answers that scouts seek. Team to team.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be a different answer for a different prospect,

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Speaker 1: and that's why they have to do the homework. Day

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Speaker 1: they sit down with Jordan Davis and ask him about it.

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Speaker 1: His answer will go a long way towards alleviating that concern.

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Speaker 1: Either if he comes in and says, listen, I know

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Speaker 1: I need to get better at it, but I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: working on it even today. Or I was picked when

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Speaker 1: they took me off the field because I think I

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Speaker 1: can rush the passer. Right, you haven't seen me rushed

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Speaker 1: the passer yet. And you know, let's see some Let's

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Speaker 1: see some of my my guys in this draft class.

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Speaker 1: Let's see them rush the passer against a double team,

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Speaker 1: right that I was always getting. So you know, his

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Speaker 1: answers to those questions are what this combine's all about

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Speaker 1: as well, and these and what the scouts and the

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00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: pro personnel find out about his personality will go a

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00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: long way towards either enforcing what they think they know

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Speaker 1: about him or blown it out of the water. We

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Speaker 1: have to take a break here, but when we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna catch up with a guy who's been covering

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Speaker 1: the draft for more than twenty years. Pro Football and

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Speaker 1: Network NFL Draft analyst Tony Pauline joins us as we

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Speaker 1: get set for the NFL combine. Next Here on one

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Colloid to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's

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Speaker 1: Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been all over

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Speaker 1: the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind of a

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Speaker 1: dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're

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Speaker 1: not even in the strategyre of normalcy. All right, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to our number two here on a Monday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you and pleased to be joined now

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Speaker 1: by the co host of the Draft Analyst podcast on

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Speaker 1: the Belief Podcast. Networks been covering the draft for more

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Speaker 1: than twenty years. It's Pro Football Network NFL Draft Analyst

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Speaker 1: Tony Paoline joining us on the show. Tony, good to

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Speaker 1: see you. We we know you're headed out to the

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Speaker 1: combine as well. Um, what would you call if you

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Speaker 1: had to, if you had to preview the combine for

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Speaker 1: our listening audience, What do you think would be the

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Speaker 1: headline coming out of it by the end of the week.

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Speaker 1: Do you think probably the number of players that didn't run,

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Speaker 1: because I don't have all the confusion with the bubble

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Speaker 1: and the not the bubble, and I think what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna see this year more so than years passed, not

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Speaker 1: twenty years ago, years passed. Is a lot of players

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Speaker 1: picking and choosing what events that they're gonna do. I'm

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Speaker 1: told that, especially with the speed positions, the guys that

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Speaker 1: lift weights on the day that they're supposed to test

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Speaker 1: on the field aren't gonna run the forty. Guys that

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Speaker 1: run the forty aren't gonna bench press because of the

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Speaker 1: way that the NFL set the schedule. So I think

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be one one topic. The interviews of Cavon Thibadel.

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Speaker 1: We may not know about that for a couple of

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Speaker 1: days after the combine. That's gonna be another big topic.

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Speaker 1: And I think you know how the quarterback store, which

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Speaker 1: is always a topic. I know, yes one, but how

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Speaker 1: do you give your three? What do you think the

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Speaker 1: the one thing that players have a hard time dodging.

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Speaker 1: It's not the forty, it's not the bench press, it's

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Speaker 1: the interviews. Which are these guys guys can you know

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Speaker 1: they all can improve their stock by coming across as intelligent, committed,

887
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Speaker 1: you know, an articulate. What do you think that the

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Speaker 1: interviews could do for some of the top guys. It

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Speaker 1: can make a break. Came on Thibodough because there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions surrounding him. You know, I expect Aiden

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Speaker 1: Hutchinson to interview very well. You know, when it comes

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Speaker 1: to say, Derek Stingley junior, there's gonna be questions as

893
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Speaker 1: to you know, why was two nineteen the best season

894
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Speaker 1: and then he even played two well in twenty and

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Speaker 1: twenty had the injury. This year, they're gonna have to

896
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Speaker 1: get into that with THEMBO though, there's a lot of questions.

897
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Speaker 1: I don't know whether they're they're justified or not, how

898
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Speaker 1: much he loves football, how much he wants a career

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Speaker 1: at the next level. So I think for him, the

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Speaker 1: interviews during the combine could make a break whether he's

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Speaker 1: when the top two or three players selected, or whether

902
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Speaker 1: he could potentially fall out of the top eight. Right, So,

903
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Speaker 1: even though you know he's a supreme talent, people who

904
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Speaker 1: are wondering about his commitment level. The defensive end class

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Speaker 1: looks like it's gonna stand a pretty good to dominating

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Speaker 1: the first round this year, Tony, Are they gonna be

907
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Speaker 1: the headline position this year, especially knowing the quarterback class

908
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Speaker 1: is not filled with studs. Yeah, I don't know it's

909
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Speaker 1: gonna be the dominant position in the first round. It

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Speaker 1: will be the dominant position in the early part of

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Speaker 1: round one, Okay. And the fact is this, you know,

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Speaker 1: you go back thirty years ago before every one wan

913
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Speaker 1: quarterback crazy, it was the impact defensive player that really

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Speaker 1: that team's really coveted, you know, and really one can

915
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Speaker 1: get at the top of the first round, Bruce Smith

916
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Speaker 1: for example. And you have a lot of those types

917
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Speaker 1: of players this year, mentioned Aiden Hutchinson, mentioned Cavon Thibodeaux,

918
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Speaker 1: David Ajabu, Aiden Hutchinson's teammate at Michigan, George karlaftis another

919
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Speaker 1: guy from the Big Ten from Perdue. I mean, these

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Speaker 1: are all guys that can create a lot of impacts

921
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Speaker 1: off the edge, up the field and disrupt the action.

922
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Speaker 1: Then you've got a couple of good cornerbacks and Derek

923
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Speaker 1: Stingley of LSU as well as the maud Gardner of Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: So it's really a good defensive draft and a good

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Speaker 1: year for getting that potential impact defensive player. So everybody

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Speaker 1: watched these games, everybody and all of us do it.

927
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Speaker 1: We all pick our guy, our guy that we think

928
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Speaker 1: we know that's going to be a great player more

929
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Speaker 1: so than anybody else believes. Who is that for you,

930
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Speaker 1: who do you have your eye on that's going to

931
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Speaker 1: come to the combine or even get drafted and have

932
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Speaker 1: a career that nobody knows about yet. Well, I know

933
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Speaker 1: about nobody knows about him yet. But I think a

934
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Speaker 1: guy who's really being underrated is Chris Lave of Ohio State,

935
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Speaker 1: who was a speedster who could be a good addition

936
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Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills the end of the round one

937
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Speaker 1: if they wanted another weapon for Josh Allen. A guy

938
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Speaker 1: who didn't play well in two twenty one was not

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Speaker 1: played below expectations, but I think that had as much

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Speaker 1: to do with the change of quarterback at Ohio State

941
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Speaker 1: as his, you know, his own performance level, because he

942
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Speaker 1: was constantly open. The quarterback just never looked his way.

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Speaker 1: So Chris Laves. One guy Rashid Walker, the offensive tackle

944
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Speaker 1: who I think is one of the best pure pass

945
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Speaker 1: blocking left tackles in this year's draft out of Penn State.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna fall in the day too, but he's got

947
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Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of upside and he just tweaks some

948
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Speaker 1: things in his game, gets a little bit stronger and

949
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Speaker 1: bruses rum blocking. He's gonna have a nice, long, productive

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Speaker 1: potentially all pro career in the NFL as far as

951
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Speaker 1: I'm concerned. And then we know Tony, you know, on

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Speaker 1: the heels of the combine, free agency sits right behind it,

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Speaker 1: especially with the combine now not starting until the first

954
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Speaker 1: week in March. Here, you're gonna we're gonna be right

955
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Speaker 1: on top of free agency coming out of this. And

956
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Speaker 1: I know on your Pro Football Network site you wrote about,

957
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Speaker 1: you know, quarterbacks the Steelers could be targeting in free agency.

958
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Speaker 1: They obviously have a hole there, you know, for those

959
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Speaker 1: fans of Dwayne Haskins and Mason Rudolph. I'm sorry, but

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be looking for better. What are you hearing

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Speaker 1: about the Steelers and Malik Willis here, you've kind of

962
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Speaker 1: tied those two together. Yeah, well, I hear that they

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Speaker 1: like Malik Willis. There's some thought out there that they

964
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Speaker 1: could trade up to make sure they get Malik Willis.

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Speaker 1: I've not heard that. I've not confirmed that. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that I'll be able to although as we get

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Speaker 1: closer to the draft, I think the fib will kind

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Speaker 1: of disappear on that. But the fact is this is

969
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Speaker 1: they're gonna need an upgraded quarterback. They want a mobile quarterback.

970
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: I heard mister Terbiskie, heard Jimmis Williams, I heard Teddy Bridgewater.

971
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Speaker 1: And if you bring him one of those guys, you

972
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Speaker 1: signed him to a you know, two or three year deal,

973
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Speaker 1: and then you signed Malik Willis, you've got something good

974
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Speaker 1: going on. Because Malik Willis, it's got tremendous upside. He's

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Speaker 1: a guy who could be the hands down the best

976
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Speaker 1: quarterback out of this year's draft. But he's not an

977
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Speaker 1: NFL ready. He's got a lot of downside risk. He's

978
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Speaker 1: gonna need some time, So you may have to Trey

979
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Speaker 1: Lance Malik Willis, Patrick Mahomes him in the sense that

980
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Speaker 1: you bring in a veteran quarterback and you just have

981
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Speaker 1: Malik Willis sit and you kind of spoon feed him

982
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Speaker 1: into the onto the field a little bit at a time.

983
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Speaker 1: And if you do that, you could have a dominant

984
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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback moving forward. How give us a comparable to

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Speaker 1: Malik Willis in draft's past. That's a good one. Let

986
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Speaker 1: me think. I don't want to say Patrick Mahomes, but

987
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: he is that sort of player in the sense that

988
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Speaker 1: he can beat you with his arm, he can beat

989
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Speaker 1: you with his legs. He has the ability to pull

990
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: a rabbit at a hat when when it does, doesn't

991
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Speaker 1: even seem that there's a rabbit there. And again, he's

992
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: that type of quarterback. I'm not going to say he's

993
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, But then again, you know what Patrick Mahomes,

994
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Speaker 1: who thought he was going to turn out to the

995
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Speaker 1: single coller he is now sat him down for a year,

996
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: had outstanding coaching, outstanding quarterback coaching, and Andy Reid, So

997
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: you never know. And then you know, the Bills are

998
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Speaker 1: sitting at twenty five. Now we know Brandon being isn't

999
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: shy about moving around if he feels he needs to.

1000
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Speaker 1: But all things considered, you know, if the Bills are

1001
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: sitting there at twenty five, and I know it's early,

1002
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Speaker 1: we haven't seen what they've added in free agency, which

1003
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Speaker 1: obviously could change things. A lot of Bills fans are

1004
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: hoping that, you know, cornerbacks addressed, or maybe defensive tackle.

1005
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: Knowing they've got six players on their defensive line on

1006
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: expiring contracts, they got holes to fill there. Who value

1007
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: wise fits down there near the bottom around one at

1008
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: those positions. Yeah, I think it's very thin at those

1009
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: positions at the bottom around one. But if you're looking

1010
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: for a couple of names. Kara Elam a Florida, a big,

1011
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: physical corner who in a lot of ways is a

1012
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: bit tough to scout because they never threw in him.

1013
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: They were threw in his direction, they never really challenged him,

1014
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: but when they did, he's a shutdown guy. He's got

1015
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: good instincts. He likes get involved in the action. He

1016
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: makes plays with his back to the ball, which I

1017
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: think is very important. If you're looking for defensive tackle.

1018
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: You know Jordan Davis's teammate DeVante Wyatt, who was an

1019
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: explosive one gap sort of three technique tackle or one

1020
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: technique tackle who also you know, has got some good size.

1021
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: He had a power to his game this year, where

1022
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: last year he was just Empire years, he was just

1023
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: a first step lineman. He's got a good amount of upside.

1024
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 1: That's in round one. I mean they could go later

1025
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: on if they're looking for a bigger defensive tackle late

1026
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: in day two. A guy like Travis Jones from you

1027
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: Cod who at the top of his game just controls

1028
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: a lot of scrimmage. So there's a couple of teams.

1029
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a couple of teams that got

1030
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: Bills have nine picks. Jets and Giants have two in

1031
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: the top ten. Those are two teams that could really

1032
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: change the course of a franchise if they get their guy.

1033
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on having two picks and who

1034
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: might go to those two teams individually, particularly the Jets. Yeah, well,

1035
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean I think with the Jets it comes down

1036
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Speaker 1: to coaching, because the Jets have had you know, they

1037
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Speaker 1: had two two top fifteen picks last year with Zach

1038
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: with Zach Wilson, and then later on they moved up

1039
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: to get Elijah beryck Tucker. So you know, everybody gets

1040
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: all created. Well, you got two top two picks in

1041
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: the first round, you got two top picks in top fifteen.

1042
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: What do you do with those elections? You know, you

1043
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: look at what happened with the Raiders and all the

1044
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: draft capital they got for you know, when they traded

1045
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack and they wasted it away. So can the

1046
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: Jets change the trajectory of their of their franchise? Yes,

1047
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: I think they would want a pass rusher. They obviously

1048
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: need some offensive linement for Zach Wilson, and they need

1049
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson to take the next step. So I think

1050
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: they also need a quarterback. I think the Jets will

1051
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: be able to come away with two good players with

1052
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: those selections, but that is the starting point. What do

1053
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: they do with those players? Can they develop those players?

1054
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: And can Zach Wilson basically turn it around from what

1055
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Speaker 1: I think was a significantly disappointing rookie season in the

1056
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Speaker 1: NFL last one We've got for ye here, Tony because

1057
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Speaker 1: we know we gotta let you go taking it one

1058
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: step further with the Jets there, you know, they've been

1059
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: mired in even less than mediocrity for a long time. Now.

1060
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: Do you think and I know on money is the

1061
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: end to all be all, but do you think it's

1062
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: hard for them to attract free agents because of their

1063
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: perennial bottom feeding nature. Absolutely. I wrote about it on

1064
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: Pro Football Network last week. I mean, they're gonna have

1065
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: to overpay for free agents for a couple of reasons because,

1066
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, I mean, they haven't made the playoffs

1067
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: and what over ten years now, since two ten. You know,

1068
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: it's a situation with the Jets where if there is

1069
00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: not significant improvement during the twenty twenty season, they could cleanhouse.

1070
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: Yet again. I mean they may be looking for another

1071
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: general manager and another head coach, and then there's just

1072
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: a financial impact. You know, if you signed in New

1073
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: York as opposed to a Florida team or a team

1074
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, you're gonna be paying much higher taxes.

1075
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: The Jets absolutely are going to have to overpay to

1076
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 1: bring in the top free agents because the fact is

1077
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: they're a long ways away. It's not like say the

1078
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, where you're looking for a piece here or

1079
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: a piece there, or even the New England Patriots who

1080
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: need a few more pieces. The Jets need a lot

1081
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: of pieces, and then they need to write the ship

1082
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: really from the front office down, not just on the

1083
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: playing field. Tony, thanks so much for taking a minute

1084
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: with us. I know it's a busy week. Travel safely

1085
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: down to Indianapolis. Maybe we'll cross paths there. Absolutely, thank

1086
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: you for having me. Yeah, sure thing. That's Tony Pauline

1087
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,439
Speaker 1: from the Pro Football Network puts a lot of good

1088
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: stuff up there. Have been covering the draft for over

1089
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: twenty years. Also kind of has his ear to the

1090
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: ground on free agency and stuff like that. You want

1091
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: to check out some of his stuff. The Pro Football

1092
01:00:56,120 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: network dot Com is where to go for that. That

1093
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: is the thing I found it interesting because what have

1094
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: I talked about with the Jets for the last forty years.

1095
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: One of their biggest problems is player development. I think

1096
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: Robert sala is probably one of the best coaching hires

1097
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: they've made in a long time, and I think he

1098
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: will be preaching player development. Whether he has the staff

1099
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: to pull that off remains to be seen, but it's

1100
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: gonna have to come from all angles because they got

1101
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: a lot of holes still left to fill. And while

1102
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 1: it's great they have a ton of draft capital, they

1103
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: also got to convince some free agents to come in

1104
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: there and kind of lead the way and show the

1105
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: young guys how it's done. Like good quality people that

1106
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: you're not wondering, well, am I going to get the

1107
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: same thing out of this guy in week sixteen when

1108
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: maybe we're six and ten. You know that I'll get

1109
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: in week one. You need good people to bring in

1110
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: there to kind of show the younger players how it's done. Yeah,

1111
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot in that. Certainly, it's about the coaching

1112
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: staff and what they do for these guys off the

1113
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: field and off the field, has a how they it's

1114
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: interesting too. And we've we've said, I mean the ownership

1115
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: group here, the ownership group Kim and Terry Pegoula have

1116
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: really given Sean McDermot brand being all the sport they

1117
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: could ask for, pumping millions of bucks into this building

1118
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: that we're sitting in right now. You know, the drafts,

1119
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: the free agents, the classes they've brought together. And you

1120
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: wonder in New York how that ownership views player development

1121
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: because you've got and every we've said it, every every

1122
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: franchise is different, and there are some who really have

1123
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: a strong belief. A lot of football people do have

1124
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: a strong belief in player development. The problem is patients

1125
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: in getting there. And the second thing is you've got

1126
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: some ownership groups there, Well, just get a guy that

1127
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: can already do that. I don't want to wait on

1128
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: this guy. Get rid of him and bring this guy

1129
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: in now, coach him up. You know this guy, we've

1130
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: already seen him do that. There's that kind of philosophy

1131
01:02:54,280 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: and the great the thing that makes football different is

1132
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 1: the teamwork aspect of the fact that you've got a

1133
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: lot of moving parts. There's not you know, if you've

1134
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: got to you've got two good starting pictures. In baseball, hey,

1135
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: we're pretty good, right, Not so in football. You gotta

1136
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: have a lot of things in place, and a lot

1137
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: of it has to do with stability and the culture

1138
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: in the building. Are the guys willing to go out

1139
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 1: and risk injury and know they're gonna hurt for somebody

1140
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: they don't like, or for a team that doesn't take

1141
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: care of them, or for a team that's a little

1142
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: bit cutthroat in their dealings with these players? Are you

1143
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 1: really gonna go out there and jump into this meat

1144
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: grinder that the NFL is on the field, no matter

1145
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: how soft you think it's become. Believe me, Yeah, you

1146
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: go down there and watch a game from the sidelines

1147
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: and you'll see what kind of risk there is in

1148
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: the speed and the size of that game. Are they

1149
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: really going to go out there and be all in

1150
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: like that? Like you know all these great like the Bills,

1151
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: you see them. They're all in the Chiefs, They're all

1152
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: in the Rams, they're all in the Bengals, We're all

1153
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: in these teams that get there every year are all

1154
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: in all over the field. Now that's not a guarantee,

1155
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: but it is a common denominator. And once that stops.

1156
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: The difference is palpable on the field, in the vibe

1157
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: and what you see and hear and feel about a team.

1158
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: So when you get a team like the Jets, sometimes

1159
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: what the question you ask was really right on. Do

1160
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: those players free agent or whatever look at that team

1161
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: and say they just there's something fundamentally different about that

1162
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: team that I don't want any part of. And if

1163
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: I get there and it feels wrong, am I gonna

1164
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: be able to strap it up and play the way

1165
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 1: I need to play? Like I might even want to

1166
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: after seven eight Weeks's if it's as bad as it

1167
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: seems to be, So yeah, let's move on. And then

1168
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: you throw in, as he mentioned, the taxes on top

1169
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: of that. Now, granted they're playing in New Jersey, not

1170
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: New York, but New Jersey taxes are over seven percent

1171
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: two compared to you know, Ata, Tennessee, Texas, Texas, Florida. Yeah,

1172
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: it's no sales tax there. There's no state tex or

1173
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: state tex. I meant, so now you have to up

1174
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: the money to make up the difference. And now you're

1175
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: overpaying even more. So you got to overpay just to

1176
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: get them there because you're the Jets. And then you

1177
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: have to overpay again to make up the difference that

1178
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: they're losing in taxes if they've got if they're down

1179
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: to you in the Houston, Texas. So yeah, it's an

1180
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: uphill climb for sure. We do have some breaking news

1181
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: we heard about the NFL teams that will be hosting

1182
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: the games in the International Series this fall. We now

1183
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,919
Speaker 1: know the two teams that are playing in this Summer's

1184
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,240
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame preseason game to kick off the season,

1185
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: and it will be the Raiders taking on the Jaguars

1186
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty two Hall of Fame Game eight

1187
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: pm Thursday, August fourth. Tickets actually for that game go

1188
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: on sale as soon as Friday. And obviously the Raiders

1189
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 1: and Jaguars usually the two teams playing have a tie

1190
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,439
Speaker 1: in with the induction class. Raiders obviously have Cliff Branch

1191
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: going in the Hall of Fame, Jaguars have Tony Biselli.

1192
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 1: So those are your two teams for this Summer's Hall

1193
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: of Fame game to kick off the preseason schedule. Two

1194
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: new coaches by the way, too, so you have McDaniels

1195
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: and Peterson, So two new head coaches starting their seasons

1196
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: awfully early. They'll probably welcome an extra preseason game quite frankly,

1197
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: Vegas and Jacksonville. Yes, Vegas and Jacksonville. I'm gonna trying

1198
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: what I'm just gonna look like two AFC teams, right,

1199
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: which is kind of two new head coaches, kind of

1200
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: unusual to get. Yeah, Josh McDaniels and Doug Peterson. So

1201
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: good for them. Yeah, that'll be an interesting will be

1202
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: yeah game and yeah sous the news NFL franchise versus

1203
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: one of the oldest AFL franchises. Yeah, good stuff, it'd

1204
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: be kind of cool. We are discussing Kyler Murray's manifesto

1205
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: public nfesto for everybody to view as he makes a

1206
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: long term contract demand to the Cardinals. He already sent

1207
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: it to them, but then let everybody know about it

1208
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: publicly today through his player agent. And you know, for

1209
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: our MSGU viewers, we're not expecting you to be able

1210
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: to read basically what he put out because the font

1211
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: is so ridiculously small. I think it might be all right,

1212
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: let's just give him the benefit of the doubt. They

1213
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: made the font like that so he can read it

1214
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: on social media. Yeah, but it was he I saw

1215
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 1: it there first, and it's even hard to read there, So,

1216
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: I I mean, I was like, what am I supposed

1217
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: to do with this? There was a typo in a

1218
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: two that which is yeah, there was a type of

1219
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: inappropriate use of a dash or a comment or something.

1220
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: People Oh my gosh, it is like white on rice.

1221
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: They are on you in a half a second. Um, yeah,

1222
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: I mean I saw somebody, ah, these player agents, editors.

1223
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, okay, like there are bigger,

1224
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 1: bigger fish to fry. I respect it, believe me. I mean,

1225
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: I I've been writing on Buffalo bills. I come a

1226
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: long time. But at the same time, that's probably never

1227
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: happened to you. Right, It's hard to write perfect, man,

1228
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: even with spell check and other stuff. It's hard to

1229
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: write perfect, especially when you're doing something as long linded

1230
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: as that was. But basically, in essence, what his agent

1231
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 1: said was it's time for the Cardinals to prioritize a

1232
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: long term deal for Kyler Murray. One thing too, you

1233
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: gotta know, this is the first year where it would

1234
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: be possible for them to do anything with him, even

1235
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: if they loved him, even if he was Pat Mahomes.

1236
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: This is the first year they did so He's out

1237
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: ahead of and saying listen, get me done. And I

1238
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 1: get it. I said at the big top of the show.

1239
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: Whether you like the technique or the tactic of this

1240
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: right now of doing this in the media, that's one thing.

1241
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 1: But this is the first opportunity has had, and he's

1242
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: played really well for the Cardinals. He's played well for

1243
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: him a Certainly the team hasn't accomplished everything it wanted to,

1244
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 1: but Kyler Murray has has been a really good quarterback

1245
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: in a really difficult division. There's no question they need

1246
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: him going forward. And he's right to say listen to

1247
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: me first. Okay, fine, yeah, I just there's a part

1248
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 1: of it to me though that seems a little unprofessional

1249
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: because in it he basically says Kyler Murray absolutely wants

1250
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: to be the Cardinal's long term quarterback, but it is

1251
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 1: now simply up to the Cardinals to decide if they

1252
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 1: prioritize signing him to an extension. Who are you to

1253
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: tell me what my agenda is? Right? You know that

1254
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 1: may be the way you see. Yeah, you're exactly right.

1255
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: And plus it's not like I say, football is never

1256
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: no player is ever in a vacuum. In football, they've

1257
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: got roster considerations, they got a salary cap, They've got

1258
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,839
Speaker 1: all these other things going on, free agency, the draft

1259
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 1: that are on their plate front and center. They've got

1260
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 1: two years for Kyler Murray to get his money, and

1261
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: he can spout off all he wants, but the calendar

1262
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 1: says something different. Yes, at the same time, though, there

1263
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 1: is a precedent here, and we have seen that when

1264
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 1: quarterbacks get disgruntled with their situation or they feel they've

1265
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: not been given the respect they feel they deserve, then

1266
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 1: they start pulling other stuff, whether it's Aaron Rodgers getting

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Speaker 1: all cryptic on social media, you know, or Russell Wilson somehow,

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Speaker 1: some way releasing the three teams he'd be interested in

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Speaker 1: being traded to, even though he had a no trade

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Speaker 1: clause in his contract. That was last offseason, remember that

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Speaker 1: whole rigamarole. What the hell was that, you know? And

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Speaker 1: then teams having no qualms about eating a dead cap

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Speaker 1: figure of over thirty million dollars to move somebody like

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff Carson Wentz. So there's a part of me

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Speaker 1: that wonders if people like Kyler Murray are suddenly emboldened

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Speaker 1: by the way quarterbacks in the last calendar year have

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Speaker 1: been able to throw their weight around without any real

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Speaker 1: repercussions if you think about it, right, and here's yeah,

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Speaker 1: the simple fact the matter is, though, when push comes

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Speaker 1: to shove, you can have all the public sentiment you

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01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: want or all the public victory all you've Aaron Rodgers

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01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: has taking slings and hours from the packer Nation. You

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01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: can have all that going on all at once, and

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Speaker 1: none of it means anything because it's the club that decides.

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01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 1: It's a GM or an owner more likely that says,

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01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna get to you when we've when

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01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: we really feel like getting to you, you you can sit

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01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: down and shut up and you can say whatever you

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Speaker 1: want on social media because I do not care, and

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Speaker 1: there are some owners who will do that. All this stuff.

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Speaker 1: He puts this out on social media to one end,

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01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: like the ownership doesn't know that this is the first

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01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,799
Speaker 1: year they can start to renegotiate with him. Bidwell already

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01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: said it. He already said publicly before the season was

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Speaker 1: over that Murray is part of the quote long term

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Speaker 1: plan of the organization. They've publicly said it, and yet

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Speaker 1: still the Murray camps trying to hold their feet to

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Speaker 1: the fire. I wonder, Steve, I wonder people say, why

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Speaker 1: is he's a baseball player? Man, I'm telling you that's

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Speaker 1: the thing. And we'll get into this when we come back,

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Speaker 1: because I do hope people say, well, you know, why

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01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 1: does he want his money now? Well, he wants to

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01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 1: get paid. He knows his career could be short. I

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01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: think there might be an ulterior motive here, and we're

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01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 1: just shot in the dark in it here, but there

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01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 1: could be another reason why Kyler Murray is in such

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Speaker 1: a hurry to get his money now. We will speculate

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Speaker 1: on why that is when we return here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back One Bills Lives. The show Chris rounds Dachasker

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01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: with you reminder that we'll have full and comprehensive Combine

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01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 1: coverage here on this show for the rest of the

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01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 1: week starting tomorrow is we will be literally hitting the

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Speaker 1: road as soon as this show is over to head

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Speaker 1: out to Indie and continue our coverage of the NFL

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01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: Combine all week long one to three here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. So got a star studded list of guests

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Speaker 1: joining us as well, including Brandon Bean and head coach

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01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. So look forward to bringing those two you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: those are this week. First time we've had those guys

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Speaker 1: on with us two years, long time. I mean, I

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01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:53,520
Speaker 1: think the last time we've might have been after their extensions.

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01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,560
Speaker 1: Maybe we had and we've carried their press conferences and

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01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but we've never sat down one on one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's been fun, so that'll be a long time. It'll

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Speaker 1: be fun. We're talking Kyler Murray today after his public

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Speaker 1: manifesto issued by his player agent and basically putting the

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Speaker 1: ball in the Cardinals scored I want to be here

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01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 1: a long term. Let's make it happen, or you better

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01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 1: make it happen, or you better prioritize it, or something

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01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 1: to that effect. You know, we've been knocking a lot

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01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 1: of stuff around and this is pure speculation, but it's

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01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,799
Speaker 1: fun to do in this kind of a forum. Murray

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01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 1: is entering the last year of his rookie contract, as

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01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 1: we all know. Obviously, the Cardinals have the choice to

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Speaker 1: pick up his fifth year player option before May third.

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01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: I believe it is to kick in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three year as well. By themselves some time if they wish.

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01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: Murray clearly does not want that. He would prefer to

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01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: have a long term contract now as in right now.

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01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: I wonder why he's so eager to get his money.

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01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: You know, you try to think of all the things

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01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,560
Speaker 1: that go through a guy's head. Obviously, everybody wants to

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01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 1: get paid sooner rather than later, especially if they feel

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Speaker 1: they're deserving of it based their production on the field.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty four years old, Steve, he signs a big

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01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: fat extension. I'm telling you right now, if I'm the Cardinals,

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01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 1: I am putting clauses in there to be completely off

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01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: the hook. Yeah. If he decides at age twenty six,

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01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 1: now you know what, I'm gonna play baseball because I

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01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, this guy isn't just another guy that

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01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: can play two sports. He was the first pick in

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01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: the NFL draft. He was the ninth pick in the

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01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball draft in twenty eighteen. I mean, this

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01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 1: is not some you know, two fifty hitter, you know,

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01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,600
Speaker 1: decent outfield or kind of guy, at least not in

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01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: the eyes of Major League Baseball scouts. Now. Starting a

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01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: baseball career at age twenty six is no easy feed either.

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Speaker 1: I think that still should be a concern on the

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Speaker 1: part of the Cardinals. As a matter of fact, you

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Speaker 1: want to go public with this us prioritizing you as

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01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 1: the long term answer here, Okay, tell us in writing

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01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: you're not playing football or a baseball Yeah, I get that,

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01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 1: and I and I'll do that before he signed his

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01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 1: first well, I'm sure they did. And flip it another way.

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Speaker 1: If the Cardinals don't answer him, that's the carrot he's

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Speaker 1: gonna put out there. Oh, you don't want to pay

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01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: me a long term I'm gonna go play baseball then, right,

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01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 1: and leave that high and dry. I could see him

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01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: doing that. That gives him leverage that no other player

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Speaker 1: can pull. Right, and we're talking like this. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's any question that Cardinals want to sign him.

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01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. So it's not you know that.

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Speaker 1: But I'll say this, if you're gonna sign the guy

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01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: at that young of an age, that early in his contract,

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Speaker 1: I mean, first possible moment you can sign him to

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01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: an extension, you get it done. Okay, you still have

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01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: to have some some clauses in the contract that give

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01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: you an out as a club down the line. Not

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01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 1: certainly not next year or the year after. But if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna give him a big signing bonus, which these

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01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: you know, these deals always have, you got to have

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01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: an escape clause in a couple of years to say, wow,

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01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: this did not go well, or wow, you're not the

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01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 1: same guy this year. You know now that you were

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01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 1: two years ago and I haven't been for two years,

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01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 1: because you know, they still got to keep playing the

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01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: game even if you stink and they don't want any

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01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 1: part of you. So there's got to be some voidable years.

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Speaker 1: There's got to be some out clauses. There's got to

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01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 1: be a buy out. There's got to be something that

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01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 1: gets them off the hook from you, you and your

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01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 1: contract every couple of years, and and and ideally will

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01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: also keep it incentivized for you to keep playing. Well

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So if if they and

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01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: if I think that's what you say, if you're the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: you will do this right now, and we'll give you

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01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: a tract worth a gazillion dollars. But you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to earn it along the way. Yeah, And we want

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01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: an easy out at any point or some points. You

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01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 1: gotta protect yourself both sides too, right, So I wouldn't

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01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 1: expect anything less. It's Kyler Murray's contract tactic and exception,

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01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: or will it soon be the norm among quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. It's not unprecedented. We've seen similar things before.

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Speaker 1: I just get the feeling we're gonna be seeing a

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Speaker 1: whole lot more of it going forward, especially with the

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Speaker 1: cap expected to balloon up to as high as two

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty million dollars next year. At this time,

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Speaker 1: let's go to the tweet sheet, which is brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company

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01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills, and he Hoorse says, isn't this

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Speaker 1: what has always gone on only behind the scenes. As

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01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 1: long as player agents have been involved, it's been their

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Speaker 1: job to shoot for a long term deal at the

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Speaker 1: highest paygrade. The difference now is that the players are

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Speaker 1: leveraging via social media, and that's a part that I'm

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Speaker 1: getting at. It's a public thing now now. That's not

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Speaker 1: to say it hasn't happened before. I remember when Bruce

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01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: was here first, when I first started covering this team,

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01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 1: Bruce was looking for new contracts quite often. Anytime somebody

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Speaker 1: leap frogged him and became the highest paid defensive end

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Speaker 1: in the league. He wanted a better contract, right, and

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01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 1: would come and talk to the media about it and say,

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01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: it's time for me to do that. It's time for

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01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: that to happen. So, yeah, he wanted I think there

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01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: was three years in a row where he got it.

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Speaker 1: He got a new contract in the next year, he

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01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: wanted a new one in the next year. After that,

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01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,639
Speaker 1: he wanted another new one, right because you know players

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01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: who were admittedly we're not as good as him, we're

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01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: making more money than he was. Yeah, and you know,

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Speaker 1: truth be told, he was the top of the food

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Speaker 1: chain at that position. So but it's just an indication that, yes,

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Speaker 1: this has happened before, and people have taken in public.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think quarterbacks feel like they

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01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: can flex like they've never flexed before. And I think

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Speaker 1: this is going to very quickly become the norm. Every

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Speaker 1: single offseason there is going to be a smattering of

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are looking to get paid giant money. And

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Speaker 1: we'll hold team's feet to the fire because they know,

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01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 1: as well as everybody else, the supply is not meeting

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Speaker 1: the demand in this thirty two team league. And I'll

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01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: say this, and this the next tweet from Jeff, he says,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be the norm

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Speaker 1: of the NFL. I don't know, but it's garbage like

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Speaker 1: that that makes me dislike the business side of sports

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01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 1: more and more. And I get that a lot of

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01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: people are kind of get disenchanted disenchanted, But I'll say this,

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Speaker 1: the one thing that the NFL has going for it,

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01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 1: and I've talked about it even in this show, is

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01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 1: the fact that they're all everybody in the buildings in

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01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 1: it together more so than any other sport, more so

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Speaker 1: than any other sport. It is an absolute team sport.

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01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean just the eleven or forty five

1455
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 1: guys on the game field or the fifty three guys

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Speaker 1: on the roster. It means the coaching staff, the administration,

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Speaker 1: the scouting staff, the pro personnel, college scouting personnel, the ownership,

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01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: every buddy in the whole buildings in it together. And

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01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 1: that gives it a different atmosphere and a different way

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Speaker 1: of looking at things that other sports just don't have.

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01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: And certainly you can have guys who are unhappy with

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01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: what the deal is or know they've got some leverage

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01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,439
Speaker 1: they can exploit over the team, like Kyler Murray in

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01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 1: this case. But the simple fact of the matter is

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01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 1: this that there's never gonna be a guy who can

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Speaker 1: do that and get away and I know this from

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Speaker 1: being in the locker room who can do that and

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Speaker 1: still be effective to the point he needs to be

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Speaker 1: like a Kyler Murray. The thing that they're saying about

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Speaker 1: him now is he's not a very good leader. He's

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Speaker 1: not that you know, he's not. The guy's body language

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Speaker 1: is bad. And I've not a not a team guy.

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Speaker 1: He's a me guy. The club knows that, the players

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Speaker 1: know that, the coaches know that and feel it. They

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01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 1: feel it, they see it, they know the guy. You

1476
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: can't hide who you are in the locker room. So hell,

1477
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 1: he's got to deal with Kyler's got to deal with that,

1478
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: and until he does, he'll never be the quarterback he

1479
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: wants to be or purports to be. The club knows

1480
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 1: it deep down, so that all gets thrown in the mix.

1481
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 1: So is as distasteful as some of this is for

1482
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 1: a lot of fans and players and coaching all that stuff,

1483
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: it takes care of itself. It the toxicity of it

1484
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: can't exist in an NFL team if they want to

1485
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: be successful, and that's why sooner or later they scrub

1486
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 1: the pan out and start over, start putting in different ingredients.

1487
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:35,559
Speaker 1: Jeremy on the tweet sheet says it's a tactic, and

1488
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 1: a poor one at that. Yes, he's proven himself, but

1489
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 1: I don't see him as a leader of his locker room.

1490
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: He clearly it doesn't have his whole heart invested in

1491
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 1: the game. When you watch and listen to his mannerisms,

1492
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 1: this sounds like a cash grab tactic, which is why

1493
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 1: I brought up what I brought up ten minutes ago.

1494
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 1: It makes you wonder, am I just trying to grab

1495
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 1: some big time money? Cash in quickly and in two

1496
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: years if I don't like the landscape here in Arizona,

1497
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm going on the ace who drafted me in the

1498
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball Draft in twenty eighteen. You said it,

1499
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:02,719
Speaker 1: if if the Cardinals put this out there, they'll say, Okay,

1500
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:04,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna put that. You throw it out there in

1501
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 1: the social media that you know it's us not you, right,

1502
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you're basically pointing the finger up, which is

1503
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: you know, typical of his personality. Right, that's fine. Here's

1504
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:22,639
Speaker 1: about four conditions you need to meet. One no baseball,

1505
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 1: you know. Two name it. You know you're gonna play well,

1506
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: and you gotta continue to play well in three if

1507
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 1: you stink, we want out right. Christopher brings up a

1508
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: good point on the tweet sheet. He says, I'm a

1509
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 1: Sooners fan in addition to being a Bills fan, and

1510
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 1: I loved what Murray did. It ou but the NFL

1511
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 1: is as much of what have you done league as

1512
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 1: what will you do? League? Murray has faltered when it's

1513
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 1: mattered most. He'll get the money, but I'm not sure

1514
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: it will be with Arizona. And that's the other thing.

1515
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:55,280
Speaker 1: Force this team to commit to you, because you know

1516
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 1: if they don't, they'll be people lining up to sign

1517
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: You's beg money. Yeah, he's got leverage, you know, and

1518
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: he he's there's and from Joshua on this next one,

1519
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: he says, exception, he's undersized, he's hurt in two seasons already.

1520
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: But he's a really good player who fits great with

1521
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: the scheme. He's in the system, he's in he's got

1522
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 1: a strike now while he has the most leverage, and

1523
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: so if he gets hurt. Next season and the Cardinals

1524
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs, it's good bye leverage. And then he

1525
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 1: looks like Lamar Jackson does in this case where he

1526
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 1: got dinged up, couldn't finish, and now he's trying. He's

1527
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 1: trying to shoot the moon for forty two to forty

1528
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 1: five million bucks a year, and the and the Baltimore

1529
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,719
Speaker 1: Ravers are going, I don't know, hold on a second,

1530
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 1: you know, Um, yeah, I get it, I get it.

1531
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if I trust them, though. There's there's

1532
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: something in my gut that says there's an ulterior motive

1533
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: here besides just getting paid and feeling like you're properly

1534
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,800
Speaker 1: valued by a club. I don't know what it is.

1535
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 1: That whole baseball thing still swirls in the back of

1536
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 1: my head with him. I can't imagine what it does

1537
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: to the Arizona Cardinals front office. I really can't. I

1538
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 1: won't tell you this to think about this. He's not

1539
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't care how good a baseball

1540
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: player he is. He's not gonna go and start suiting

1541
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 1: up for a major league baseball team right away. Well,

1542
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: you know, unless there's unless it's like, uh, you know,

1543
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,720
Speaker 1: one of those like the like the movie was where

1544
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: the kid could throw one hundred and one miles an

1545
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 1: hour and he was like twenty nine years old and

1546
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 1: he was a rookie or that kind of thing. Is

1547
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 1: it would be a it would be a ticket sales thing,

1548
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: you know. It would be like putting Michael Jordan when

1549
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:22,519
Speaker 1: he was a minor league player put him up in

1550
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,000
Speaker 1: the major leagues. It'd beat like Tim Tebow was playing

1551
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: for the Mets, that kind of thing. He might get

1552
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 1: there then, but he's gonna have a ways to go

1553
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 1: to get back to the major leagues. He's making more

1554
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: money now well, and that's the other as an NFL

1555
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: quarterback than he would if he said, Okay, I'm gonna

1556
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,240
Speaker 1: play baseball, because it would be a year's before he

1557
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 1: gets cashes in in that deal. Yeah, and right now

1558
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 1: baseball isn't playing and not schedule to play. I don't

1559
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't get the sense the negotiations are going better.

1560
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 1: Advantage Cardinals. Yeah, break time for us, Steve and I

1561
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: will close it up before we hit the road to Indy.

1562
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 1: You're all one of Bill's Live presented by a colloid

1563
01:25:55,160 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: of health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio all right, Chris Brown,

1564
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 1: Steve Jasker here with you, closing up here on a Monday,

1565
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 1: and we will be at the NFL Combine at this

1566
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 1: time tomorrow, broadcasting live from the Indiana Convention Center in

1567
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:25,719
Speaker 1: downtown Indianapolis as the Combine festivities will get underway. Player

1568
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: workouts I believe don't begin until Thursday. Players start, you know,

1569
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:35,719
Speaker 1: trickling in earlier than that, but on the field and stuff,

1570
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 1: I don't think begins until Thursday. So we'll be there

1571
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:43,680
Speaker 1: for most of it from Tuesday to Friday, So be

1572
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 1: sure to tune in one to three as we'll have

1573
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 1: comprehensive coverage of the event. We got all start. There's

1574
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,639
Speaker 1: a bunch of we've talked a lot about Kyle, almost

1575
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:54,560
Speaker 1: exclusive about Kyler, Marie and all that stuff going on

1576
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks in the league today, but there's also some

1577
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 1: stuff coming down there. They're going to start looking at

1578
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: the overtime rules, against are looking at the punt rules.

1579
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: We'll start getting into that a little bit, even in

1580
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: Indianapolis because Committee Petition Committee's gonna be there. We'll have

1581
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:09,640
Speaker 1: a couple of those guys on with us. I I

1582
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: don't care about the overtime rules anymore. So it too late,

1583
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: too late to help us now, and next time we'll

1584
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 1: win the toss and then we'll wish it they were

1585
01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 1: the other way. It's yeah, it's too late now. So

1586
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 1: they can change if they want to. But we'll be

1587
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: talking with some people who are on the competition Committee.

1588
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 1: They met last weekend this past weekend. They met over

1589
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 1: the weekend to kind of lay out their plans for

1590
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: what they're going to present to the league. Obviously, the

1591
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: ownership is what matters. You've got to get twenty four

1592
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: or thirty two votes for anything to pass as a change,

1593
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 1: whether it's the overtime rules or something else. But we

1594
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,839
Speaker 1: can kind of pick their brain a little bit to

1595
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: see whether or not they feel they'll have the necessary

1596
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 1: support for maybe some of the proposals they'll be putting

1597
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: before the owners. You can count on one thing, they'll

1598
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 1: change and tweak all the rules if they want to.

1599
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 1: They always do every year. It'll be something. We'll find

1600
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 1: out what it is, or maybe get a little closer

1601
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: this next week. We'll see you tomorrow at one o'clock.

1602
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 1: Steve and I will be in the great state of Indiana.

1603
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 1: We'll see you the