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Speaker 1: One big, happy family. Welcome bird Gang. On today's show,

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Speaker 1: Paul Calvic joins me and today is today. The entire

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Speaker 1: team is together. That's rookies, that's veterans for the first time.

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Speaker 1: Also this week the schedule gets released. Some things to

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Speaker 1: look forward to and is a move needed in the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver room. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode eight eighty three,

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Speaker 1: and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Who to Baker? What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of

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Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals

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Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast.

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Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again.

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Speaker 3: Some more Hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craigcriola.

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Speaker 1: No one had a great weekend a belated happy Mother's

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Speaker 1: Day as well, Paul. The everything goes smooth for you

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Speaker 1: over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nothing really that I can do to compensate

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Speaker 3: for being married to me for twenty five plus years.

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Speaker 3: So you know, there's only so much one man can do.

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Speaker 3: There's only so many gift ideas I really have left

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Speaker 3: in me. Craig five gifts a year every year for

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Speaker 3: a quarter century. You know, I'm just one man. So

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Speaker 3: hopefully it was well received. Still not sure as of

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Speaker 3: yet just how well received it may or may not

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Speaker 3: have been.

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Speaker 1: I would argue, this isn't every day a gift? Being

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Speaker 1: married to Paul Calvic and being Paul as the father,

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Speaker 3: Can somebody rip that? Give me that clip I'm going

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Speaker 3: to send that. You can argue that. I can't argue that.

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Speaker 3: What's much feasibility? Put it that way?

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Speaker 1: How people spend their weekends? Did you see this?

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Speaker 3: Paul?

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Speaker 1: Courtesy of Mark Dalton, the VP of Media Relations with

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. I did not know this until just

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Speaker 1: moments ago, but GM on Austin, for it was not

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Speaker 1: in town over the weekend. Instead, on Saturday, he delivered

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Speaker 1: the commencement address at his alma mater, the University of Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Morris outstand ding. How about that? That's pretty Did he

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Speaker 3: tell all the graduates, my job is to replace every

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Speaker 1: That is that what we need? We need a copy

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Speaker 1: of that speech?

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Speaker 3: That's right? Is there audio out there that's right? The

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Speaker 3: real world, real life is ready to replace you at

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Speaker 3: a moment's notice. So you better bring the production. You

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Speaker 3: better maximize your five buckets. Did you go with JG's

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Speaker 3: five buckets? I'm curious what exactly. Maybe we can get

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Speaker 3: Money a little bit later.

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Speaker 1: That's when you know you've made it big. When you graduate,

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Speaker 1: you get that degree, you get that diploma, and then

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Speaker 1: years later you've accomplished so much they invite you back

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Speaker 1: to give the commencement address, something that I can say

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Speaker 1: has not happened yet for me. So again, big props

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, I was trying to remember who

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Speaker 3: Wozniak was actually the commencement speaker, co founder of Apple,

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Speaker 3: and so that was an interesting speech. And let's just

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Speaker 3: say Steve Wosnick hasn't really needed do anything he doesn't

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Speaker 1: Just for argument's sake, in case everyone was wondering, you're

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Speaker 1: probably not Steve Croft, longtime CBS correspondent anchor, sixty minutes

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Speaker 3: I see another one of those, or wherever Syracuse broadcasting.

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Speaker 1: You work with one every single Sunday on game day.

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Speaker 1: They pash up in the move. Yeah, just can't get

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Speaker 3: And I see that Darren included this in his story

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was just five ten years ago. Will

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Speaker 3: Is this different? Man? Has this changed? It wasn't that

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Speaker 3: You know. Let him sort of assimilate, and I didn't

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Speaker 3: we got to figure out a way to devise a

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Speaker 1: don't be an a hole. Yeah, and that's basically what

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Speaker 3: but Craig went there, Okay, I guess it's a Tell

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Speaker 3: But you know this much. And by the way, I

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Speaker 3: I just think that interior offensive lineman, if you're not

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Speaker 3: That is a situation where, look, other rookies have come

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Speaker 3: In these rookies today, all right, have you ever seen

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Speaker 3: So if we're gonna play the latest game show need

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Speaker 3: or want, I'm not gonna name a certain player as

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Speaker 3: a need. I will say this, though, the chunk pass

436
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Speaker 3: is in need. You had the stat the Cardinals are

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Speaker 3: bottom third in the NFL and explosive pass plays, top

438
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Speaker 3: five in explosive run plays, bottom third and explosive pass play.

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Speaker 3: So I would say the explosive deep ball is in

440
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Speaker 3: need in this offense. I would also say that better

441
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Speaker 3: third down conversions, a reliable receiver and third and gotta

442
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Speaker 3: have it that is also in need. Now the question

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Speaker 3: is can Marvin Harrison check both boxes in year two?

444
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Speaker 3: We all know he's talented enough, Kenny, will he do it?

445
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Speaker 3: Based on I always winning the off season? If he

446
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Speaker 3: said to himself, I got I have to win those

447
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Speaker 3: contested catches more and how do I do that? I

448
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 3: get stronger, I get more physical. I'm able to match

449
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Speaker 3: up against grown men. You know the Jalen Ramsey's, the

450
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Speaker 3: Jalen Johnson's of the world. You know the Devin Witherspoon,

451
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna play twice a year. Every year Niners have corners.

452
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Speaker 3: So if he decided, all right, you know that's the key.

453
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Speaker 3: If Michael Wilson all of a sudden can be more

454
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Speaker 3: of a third down reliability guy a Greg Dortch. Maybe

455
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Speaker 3: I'm not necessarily I don't necessarily see the speed receiver

456
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Speaker 3: take the top off, stretch the field as big a

457
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Speaker 3: need as a lot of other people do. I just

458
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Speaker 3: you gotta find a figure out a way to get

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Speaker 3: more chunk pass plays, and you have to figure out

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Speaker 3: a way to get a more reliable third down target

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Speaker 3: beyond Trey McBride for Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: Make those poss essions, those drives not ten to eleven,

463
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Speaker 1: twelve plays, but five, six and seven plays, because the

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Speaker 1: less plays, the less chances for mistakes. So, yes, you

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Speaker 1: want chunk throws, you want chunk receptions, and can that

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Speaker 1: be someone already on your roster? The other thing with

467
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Speaker 1: bringing in someone new, I know Gabe Davis, according to reports,

468
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Speaker 1: was visiting the forty nine ers this week. Recently released

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Speaker 1: by the Jaguars. He's got a great age right there,

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Speaker 1: twenty six years old, health concerns, but you have someone, Okay,

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Speaker 1: are they any better than what you currently have on

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Speaker 1: the roster? And that's why right now, I don't think

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Speaker 1: you can answer that, because at least in this offseason,

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Speaker 1: not enough has been shown on the field. If you're

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Speaker 1: the general manager of the head coach, hey, no, wait,

476
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Speaker 1: we do need that possession receiver who's got some hype,

477
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Speaker 1: maybe even some speed. Perhaps they're already on the roster

478
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Speaker 1: and we'll kind of let it play out through training

479
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Speaker 1: camp and preseason.

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Speaker 3: The other name that's been out there is Amari Cooper,

481
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Speaker 3: and a lot of people had him going to Dallas.

482
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Speaker 3: Well not any longer, not after Dallas made the trade.

483
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Speaker 3: So Mary Cooper, who played for Drew Petsing in twenty

484
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Speaker 3: twenty two and played with Jacoby Brissette in Cleveland, I'm

485
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Speaker 3: presuming they have really good knowledge now whether he's a

486
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Speaker 3: guy they think fits this team, well don't know. We

487
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Speaker 3: do know. The Buffalo GM Brandon Bean was none too

488
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Speaker 3: happy about the assessment of his receiver room, and one

489
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Speaker 3: of the points he made was, guess what, they didn't

490
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Speaker 3: get a lot out of Mariy Cooper the last five

491
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Speaker 3: games of last year, and it didn't really matter. They

492
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Speaker 3: were still scoring thirty points a game. So translation, we

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Speaker 3: didn't need him to be a dynamic offense. Do the

494
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Speaker 3: Cardinals need him? Could they use him? Are there other

495
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Speaker 3: teams that are in need of wide receiver two? Yes,

496
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Speaker 3: the Jets, I mean name is single receiver beyond Garrett

497
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Speaker 3: Wilson on the Jets roster. There are definitely teams that

498
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Speaker 3: are also in need of wide receiver two who I

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Speaker 3: think will probably end up paying him more than the

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Speaker 3: Cardinals would be willing to. The longer he hangs out there,

501
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Speaker 3: the less interest I presume teams have. And maybe just

502
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Speaker 3: maybe that's something where Drew Petsing and then Mania support,

503
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Speaker 3: they old combo block and they get in on Amari Cooper.

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Speaker 1: Now you wait to see and then is there enough

505
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Speaker 1: money to convince you to get off the couch? And

506
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Speaker 1: again it's what kind of role? Because within this offense,

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Speaker 1: I would argue, even if you are a wide receiver too,

508
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Speaker 1: you are really the fifth best offensive option because in

509
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Speaker 1: no particular order, you've got Marvin, You've got Trey, you

510
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Speaker 1: got James Connor, and I include Kyler Murray in that.

511
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Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden, you're the fifth option. Really,

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Speaker 1: as far as what I do with the football, and

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Speaker 1: is that enticing? You know, Yes, you want someone that

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Speaker 1: would occupy the defense and the defense has to worry

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Speaker 1: about you. But if you're on the outside looking in,

516
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Speaker 1: what kind of role would I really be having within

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Speaker 1: this offense?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I tend to agree. And you know what if

519
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Speaker 3: Trey Benson as a breakout year, I'm bullish on Trey Benson.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think he's gonna get a lot of

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Speaker 3: touches this year. I just think that's going to happen.

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Speaker 3: But you're right. I mean, how many teams really have

523
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Speaker 3: two dynamic receivers? Even the forty nine ers Juwan Jennings

524
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Speaker 3: are talking about being wide receiver one over Brandon Ayuk. Interesting. Okay,

525
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Speaker 3: I know the Rams now have that dynamic, right DeVante

526
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Speaker 3: Adams and Pooka Nakua. I get it. But the Rams

527
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Speaker 3: don't have the Cardinals running back room, and they certainly

528
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Speaker 3: don't have a tight end like the Arizona Cardinals have.

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Speaker 3: So I could see it either way. I mean, once again,

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Speaker 3: I don't see a player in particular as a need,

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Speaker 3: but I do see those areas in the offense chunk

532
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Speaker 3: throws and third and gotta have it reliable target other

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Speaker 3: than Trey McBride as a need this year, and that's

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Speaker 3: something I presume Drew Petsy's been working on one.

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Speaker 1: Of those teams that does have that dynamic wide receiver

536
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Speaker 1: one and two. Spend a lot of money this offseason

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Speaker 1: to make sure they would remain in the full Cincinnati Bengals.

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00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: We'll see how that goes as far as how they

539
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Speaker 1: succeed or fail here in twenty twenty five. By the way,

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00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 1: Cardinals fans, you will see Cincinnati coming up this season.

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Speaker 1: The question is when you go to Cincinnati. Schedule gets

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Speaker 1: released on Wednesday, five pm, Arizona time. Pay attention, Cardinals.

543
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: There's some excitements within the building. And what's schedule wise,

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Speaker 1: I'll just say that what's about to what the boat's

545
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Speaker 1: about to be released? As far as the order of opponents.

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Speaker 3: What's the old saying in the media business content is

547
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: king two words, tick talk, Just be aware, be ready,

548
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Speaker 3: be poised, bird gang, All right, Red Sea, it's coming.

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Speaker 1: Paul, Are you ready for a potential trip to Cincinnati?

550
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Speaker 1: And I went back and looked at the away trips

551
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Speaker 1: and you're lucky. Actually, you got a good solid you

552
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Speaker 1: got a good solid road schedule a little only two

553
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Speaker 1: outdoor games for you, Cincinnati and Tampa BA Tampa, Okay,

554
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: because you've got the Rams, yep, forty nine ers. See,

555
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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't. Okay, I don't count

556
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: the NFCS because you got to go either way. I mean,

557
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: so they're talking about road opponents that are not within

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Speaker 1: the NFC WES.

559
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: Although let's not forget Week five last year it was

560
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Speaker 3: one to eleven on the sideline Santa.

561
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Speaker 1: Clara eighty nine degrees. The game book said eighty nine.

562
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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about.

563
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: Which which was as a result, it results, it resulted

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Speaker 3: in our powerpol of incompetence, just based on the eighty

565
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Speaker 3: nine degree high temperature reading in that game book.

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Speaker 1: All right, so outside of the NFC WES, because you

567
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Speaker 1: can't do anything about those trips. It's every year Indianapolis, Houston,

568
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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, New Orleans, Dallas, Cincinnati. Again, I'll take it

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Speaker 1: every time. I'll take it as a sideline reporter.

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Speaker 3: And really we just base our you know, we we

571
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Speaker 3: based the opponents every year, just based there's only two

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Speaker 3: kinds of games, indoor or outdoor. Those are the only

573
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Speaker 3: two kinds of game right, climate controlled or not even

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Speaker 3: I'll boil down into more bare bones roof or no

575
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Speaker 3: roof because the Rams have a roof, but there's no

576
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Speaker 3: climate control. Yeah, there have been times that Cardinals have

577
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: gone to so far and week two, week three, and

578
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: it's been like, dang near one hundred degrees in that building.

579
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Speaker 3: Now there's a roof and you're not gonna get much

580
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Speaker 3: rain in.

581
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Speaker 1: We've established there's a roof at State Farm Stadium and

582
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Speaker 1: can still get rained on. That's true. That's true.

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Speaker 3: So I figured out, wait a minute, you can just

584
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Speaker 3: take five steps back, Paul. You dated a face and

585
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 3: you're not gonna get rained on. Here's why you want

586
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Speaker 3: to play Cincinnati early. It's not just self serving because

587
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 3: you know any possible weather at the end of the

588
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Speaker 3: year in Ohio. Zach Taylor as head coach of the

589
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Speaker 3: Bengals in his first month of the season. His record

590
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Speaker 3: is seven fourteen and one. Last year, the Bengals started

591
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Speaker 3: one and four. They won their final five, just missed

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Speaker 3: the playoffs. The year before, twenty twenty three, the Bengals

593
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 3: started one in three. Bengals are notoriously slow starters, maybe

594
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Speaker 3: the worst in the league.

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Speaker 1: That two stat two start Cincinnati consistently. It seems like

596
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Speaker 1: is on that soul stat line.

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Speaker 3: If you can go to Cincinnati. We're onto Cincinnati in September.

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Speaker 3: That's a win. I mean, that's a plus at least

599
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Speaker 3: based on the history. Now asked for Tampa. Yeah, please

600
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Speaker 3: know Tampa. You know the Friz factor is off the

601
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Speaker 3: charts in September, so you know, we'll see exactly what

602
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Speaker 3: Tampa though. I do. I am intrigued by four hundred

603
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Speaker 3: and sixty four pound Desmond Watson, the undrafted rookie d

604
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Speaker 3: lineman out of Florida and his home area. So he's

605
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Speaker 3: playing for his hometime Buccaneers. They say he's already lost

606
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: twenty pounds since the combine and he's learning from Vita Veya,

607
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: another extremely large human being. But Desmond Watson, and we love.

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Speaker 3: Todd Bowles, the former Cardinals defensive coordinary, said, hey, we

609
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Speaker 3: just didn't get him for the Tush push. We got

610
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Speaker 3: him because we really think he can play. Okay, all right,

611
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Speaker 3: we'll see, but it is intriguing and he's getting a

612
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Speaker 3: lot of pub right now. Desmond Watson six foot six,

613
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Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty alright, four hundred and sixty four

614
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: pounds at the combine. So as far as Cincinnati and

615
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay, whether it's September, October or December, January, November, December,

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Speaker 3: I mean the humidity, mugginess, rain. I mean, Cincinnati does snow,

617
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 3: but you're not gonna it's not like your Chicago, or

618
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: you'd be freezing on the sideline. I don't think it's happened.

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Speaker 3: It has definitely happened, But yeah, those are the only

620
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 3: two to look out. Seattle, Okay, Seattle, you never quite know.

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Speaker 1: You never know.

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Speaker 3: I mean it could be September, it could be a

623
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Speaker 3: downpour in Seattle. You're never quite sure. But I will

624
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: say this, Craig and looking at the opponents real quick.

625
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 3: There are teams you want to play early in the year,

626
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Speaker 3: and there are teams you want to play late. For example,

627
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Speaker 3: not only do you want to play Cincinnati early because

628
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: of their their woes Zach Taylor and they can never

629
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Speaker 3: come out of the gates. I think you want to

630
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Speaker 3: play New Orleans early, just based on the quarterback situation. Yeah,

631
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: Tyler Shook, right, Spencer Ratler, Jake Hayner, I mean you

632
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: want to I think you want to play Jazz Xonville early,

633
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: just because they have a first time head coach, Liam Cohen,

634
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: first time coordinators. You know, they got this twenty nine

635
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: year old OC who three years ago was an assistant

636
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: to the head coach special projects in Minnesota. I'm ridiculous

637
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: rise through the ranks. I would say, you want to

638
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: play Tennessee early with cam Ward. So like last year,

639
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: the Cardinals went against the top three quarterbacks, right, you

640
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: want to play those guys as early as possible. Now,

641
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: the Jane Daniels Week four game didn't go the way

642
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: you anticipated, but Jane Daniels pretty much did that to everybody,

643
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: even the Dallas Stinking Cowboys under first year head coach

644
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: Brian Schottenheimer. You know the thing is, you don't want

645
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: to play Dallas on a Thursday. They've won seven straight

646
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Speaker 3: Thursday games, including Thanksgimming games. Are the Cardinals going to

647
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: Dallas for Thanksgiving? That's a big question. That's a big question. Now,

648
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: we do know that there will not be an international game.

649
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 3: According to reports, the Colts going to Germany. That was

650
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: the one opponent that was left on the schedule that

651
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: put potentially the Cardinals could play internationally. But according to reports,

652
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: it's going to be the Atlanta Falcons and the Indianapolis Colts.

653
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: So no international game. Now the question is can you

654
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: get that Thursday game against the Dallas Cowboys, who, by

655
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: the way, are the Week one opponent of the Super

656
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles that has been made official here

657
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: on this Monday. So how many primetime games do the

658
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: Cardinals get? There was one last year ESPN Monday Night Football.

659
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: It was ESPN Plus, which didn't sit well with a

660
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: lot of fans. They didn't really consider that a full

661
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: primetime game. And then, of course, you know, when.

662
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: When is the bye week? You know, is it middle

663
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: of the season, is it after five weeks or is

664
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Speaker 1: it later in the season? Week fourteen, I think is

665
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: the latest that you have a bye week? Possible sometime

666
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: there in mid to late November. But that's I think

667
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: what everyone pays attention to is primetime bye week. And

668
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: then okay, you're gonna play these teams, now, just what's

669
00:33:59,320 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: the order?

670
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: And you know, speaking of the fans, they.

671
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: Got treated last year to a six.

672
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: And three home record, and I thought that was sort

673
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: of a low key critical improvement in last year. Not

674
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 3: only did you double your win total from four to eight,

675
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: not only were you leading the division going into the buy.

676
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 3: But you're able to win five year last six at

677
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 3: home and to go six and three at State Farm

678
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 3: Stadium to reclaim a legit home field advantage, to play

679
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 3: some of your best ball at home, which had not

680
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 3: happened for a couple of years. I think that was

681
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 3: critical and you can only hope obviously that carries over

682
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: that's here to stay in twenty twenty five and beyond.

683
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 3: So there's that beyond. I did not I was not

684
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: aware of the international game. So that's been decided or

685
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: at least reportedly with Berlin. Beyond that, yeah, what are

686
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: the cards for example, Kyler Murray going back to Dallas.

687
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: I mean that's a huge storyline.

688
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: Undefeated at at and T Stadium.

689
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: I mean, you've got to imagine the networks with love that.

690
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: Fox would love that. On Thanksgiving Day. By the way,

691
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 3: speaking of Fox, what's the last thing anyone needed in

692
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: media was yet another streaming app? And did you see

693
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: where Fox is launching their own streaming app where they're

694
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 3: gonna have all their content news, sports programming. Fox won

695
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: so in addition to Peacock and Paramount, which is CBS, right,

696
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: I mean, so now, and you're Smart TV. You're gonna

697
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: have yet another app and yet another monthly subscription if

698
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: you want to. Now, they're not gonna take it off Cable.

699
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 3: They're not gonna take it off the regular providers. You're

700
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: still going to be able to get NFL games on

701
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: Fox like you always have, but you watch, they'll put

702
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 3: some exclusive content on there related to the NFL.

703
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: At some point you are going to need Peacock. However,

704
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,919
Speaker 1: in week seventeen, also announced on Monday Saturday Night game.

705
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: Don't know the opponents, don't know the teams, but NBC

706
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: has announced that Week seventeen, Saturday Nights will probably will

707
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: be two or three games that day Week seventeen, and

708
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: that primetime game exclusively on Peacock.

709
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 3: I would also think that the NFC West games are

710
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: gonna get a lot of play. I mean, if you're

711
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: looking to put games into primetime Cardinals and Rams after

712
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: last year Cardinals in forty nine ers, I just think

713
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 3: you know Cardinals and Seahawks. With whether whether it's Sam Darnold,

714
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: I don't know how long he's gonna last behind that

715
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: Yankee offensive line. I do expect to see Jalen Milroe.

716
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: I'd much rather play Seattle early than later if they

717
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 3: come up with an effective package with Jalen Milroe, who's

718
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 3: already creating a little bit of buzz up there, not

719
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: unlike a former third round quarterback some fifteen years ago

720
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 3: in Seattle camp will beat out the highly paid free

721
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: agent Russell Wilson, beating out Matt Flynn. Why because the

722
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 3: locker room believing in Russell Wilson and knew he was

723
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 3: a superior quarterback athlete and leader to Matt Flynn. I'm

724
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: really curious of Jalen Milroe continues to impress in Seattle

725
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: if that underminds Sam Darnold in any way, if the

726
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: locker room gets divided, if there's a factional locker room

727
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: that bleevese wait a minute, we need to roll. Let's

728
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: ride with Jalen Milroe. Look at the upside on that kid.

729
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: It's an impressive individual. To listen to his answers to

730
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: the media, how he carries himself.

731
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 3: He is much like Russell Wilson did.

732
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: He certainly sounds like someone that is ahead of the

733
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: game to where maybe again, maybe he becomes a starter

734
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: at some point this season. The question is when you

735
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: brought up Cam Moore, the Cardinals will see him at

736
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: State Farm Stadium. Also, we'll see Travis Hunter at State

737
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: Farmer Stadium. So if you're looking for excitement as far

738
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: as your opponents and individuals, there was no more talked

739
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: about player than Travis Hunter last year, and he and

740
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: the Jaguars making only their second visit. The Jaguars and

741
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: Titans Paul have only been to State Farm Stadium once

742
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: and each will be in State Farm Stadium in twenty

743
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: twenty five for their second ever visits.

744
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 3: When Travis Hunter comes to State Farm Stadium, he needs

745
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 3: to look up and see the name Roy Green. You

746
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: need to have Roy Green down on that field. So

747
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: it's sort of like there were games when Larry was

748
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: in his prime and Jerry Rice would just happen to

749
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: be on the sideline as Larry was nearing some of

750
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 3: Jerry's records, and you know, Roy Green meeting Travis Hunter

751
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: would be a great, great pregame moment. And from all accounts,

752
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter is a really good, just human being. You

753
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 3: see that on social media over the weekend. That graduated

754
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: on the flight back back, Yeah, there was there was.

755
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 3: There was a lady, she's not a sports fan, had

756
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: no idea who he was. She just posted, Oh, such

757
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 3: a nice young man sitting next to me, offered to

758
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 3: help me, you know, with my bags in the overhead

759
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: and buying it.

760
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: It was Travis Hunter, really well done. So where she

761
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: everyone walking by said congratulations, good luck, and to point

762
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: where she looked like, who are you? What do you do?

763
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: Who are you? And they had a nice conversation and

764
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: snapped his selfie. And now you got not only do

765
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: you have a Travis Hunter fan for life, but now,

766
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, maybe the Jaguars with a fan.

767
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: And that's the fan engagement that you hope, not just

768
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter, but every professional athlete understands because you reach

769
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 1: one all of a sudden, it's word of mouth. Hey

770
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,959
Speaker 1: we're talking about Travis Hunter. Hey, good guy. I'm gonna

771
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: root for him, except for when he plays the Cardinals.

772
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: It's sort of like, you know, and you don't see

773
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 3: it too often, you really don't. But when the quality

774
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: is there, the quantity doesn't necessarily matter. I'm talking about

775
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 3: a trade. If you can get a franchise quarterback, how

776
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 3: much is that worth? Can you truly overpay if you

777
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: find that guy at that position? Well, every once in

778
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: a while there's a generational player that's not a quarterback.

779
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: If Travis Hunter ends up being that guy, that's gonna

780
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 3: be a steal Cleveland trading out and trading down and

781
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 3: giving that number two pick overall to Jacksonville, especially since

782
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter is from that area. I'll go back to

783
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 3: our own Arizona. If if they could ever have gotten

784
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 3: their hands in Austin Matthews, one of the best players

785
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 3: in the league, star center for the Leafs Scottsdale kid,

786
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 3: if they ever could, I swear that would have saved

787
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 3: the franchise. I would have traded. I would have gone

788
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: Mike Dicka and the Saints and traded every single pick

789
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: in my draft that year for Austin Matthews and just

790
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 3: hit the reset button on the franchise. Didn't happen, probably

791
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 3: because the league didn't want it to happen. And well,

792
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: look at where the Coyoties are now in Utah. I'm sorry.

793
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: It's a sidebarer. It's very well but excellent points. And yes,

794
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: it's hard to argue against if you get that guy.

795
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 3: It's just you can't overpay, I mean almost literally, you

796
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: know what does that worse? So we'll see. It's interesting

797
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 3: they're starting him on offense. Maybe that's because of the

798
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 3: playbook and they want to get him acclimated. But if

799
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: you're thinking, okay, where can he have a greater impact,

800
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: maybe offense is the future for Travis Hunter. Now, if

801
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 3: he's at shutdown corner, you can always throw to the

802
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: other side, right, you can always go away from a

803
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter. And so like Pat p when he's at

804
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: his best, he might get one or two targets a game.

805
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: It's almost like he wasn't out there. Now he neutralized

806
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: the other team's best receiver. But if you really want

807
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 3: to make sure that your guy's impacting the game and

808
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 3: sparking the crowd and firing up, you know, making plays

809
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: another guy's feed off that, then maybe the future is

810
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 3: for Travis Hunter receiver.

811
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: Question is when will we see Travis Hunter at State

812
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: Farm Stadium again? The schedule gets released on Wednesday, Cardinals

813
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: playing the NFC South, AFC South, and third place teams

814
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: out of the NFC North which is Green Bay, NFC

815
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: East which is the Cowboys, and AFC North which are

816
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: the Bengals. And I'll leave you with this, Paul. Based

817
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: on opponents twenty twenty four records, Cardinals have the fifth

818
00:41:55,480 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: easiest schedule, tied with the Panthers. And again that's much

819
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: has changed from twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five

820
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: as far as free agency in the draft. But if

821
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: you're just looking at records from last year, Cardinals have

822
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: the fifth easiest schedule, which, again when we get to

823
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 1: week one, means absolutely nothing, but it's a great talking

824
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: point ahead of schedule.

825
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: Lease, Yeah, it's amazing. You know how bereft of credibility

826
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 3: that stat has once you get midway through a season

827
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 3: and you realize that the NFL every year since the

828
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 3: merger has put at least four new playoff teams into

829
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 3: the postseason. So things changed quickly in the NFL. But

830
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 3: when you're playing the AFC South in the NFC South, yeah,

831
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 3: it's kind of expected. Here's the thing, though, the other

832
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: three teams in your division are playing those same two divisions. Now,

833
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: they're playing different teams within the division based on finish.

834
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 3: I get it. But as easy knock on wood as

835
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 3: the win loss record from last year says, the Cardinals

836
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 3: schedule is this year, I think the NFC West is

837
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: going to be that tough I mean, you look at

838
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 3: what the Rams did closely already beating and the Eagles.

839
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: The Rams are definitely better. The Niners have a track

840
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 3: record of rebounding from poor seasons. Kyle Shannan and John

841
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 3: Lynch have done that for years. Seattle. They like to

842
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 3: think that they filled in the holes necessary. Nobody really

843
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: believes in the trenches for Seattle, but they definitely have

844
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 3: talent at a lot of skill positions and so and

845
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 3: they have a really bright young head coach and Mike McDonald.

846
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 3: I just think the NFC West is going to be

847
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 3: a slog and a slugfest like we haven't seen in

848
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 3: a while.

849
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: Wednesday, May fourteenth schedule release, and as we teased off

850
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: the top, you're not gonna want to miss and you'll

851
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: be interested in what happens at five pm Arizona time

852
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: when the schedule does get released. Programming notes myself, Paul

853
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: Danny Sirek will have a instant reaction when the schedule

854
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: comes out. Yes, we know the opponents and we know where,

855
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: it's just when and the order of things, and then

856
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: we start planning for week one. Because Paul likes to

857
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: say it's never too early to look at that Week

858
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: one opponent. No, it's not.

859
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: We're gonna start game planning immediately. And I want to

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Speaker 3: know when the Cardinals go to Seattle, because this time

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Speaker 3: they're going with Kaleis Campbell again. And so the sign guy,

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Speaker 3: the heckler dude who hangs over the rail coming out

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Speaker 3: of the visitors locker room and down the tunnel, guess

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Speaker 3: what I want Kalais Campbell at six foot eight to

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Speaker 3: reenact what he did about twelve years ago. He reached

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Speaker 3: up and he just shredded that sign from the guy

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Speaker 3: because he didn't realize the reach of Kalais as he

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Speaker 3: was looking left and Clayis was coming from the right.

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Speaker 1: Good things happening on Wednesday's schedule release, saying yes, some

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Speaker 1: content as well. And on that note, we'll put a

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Speaker 1: lit on. This edition of Cardinals. Cover two, presented by Hyundai,

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, has always special thanks

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Speaker 1: to our executive producer Jim Momre, our associate producer Coddy Fincher.

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Speaker 1: For Paul Calvic, I'm Craig ral Lou. We'll talk to

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