1 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Called lighta Health. Welcome 2 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: into One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker along with Josh Reed 3 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: here Channel four Sporce Director. We are here in Buffalo 4 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: at One Bill's Drive. We're talking about the Buffalo Bills. 5 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Josh is in here with me all week as Brownie's 6 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: taking a week off. It's that time of year, and 7 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: Brownie leaves, and look what happened. For those of you 8 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: who are just tuning in and haven't heard this and 9 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: don't have social media. It was reported earlier by Adam Schefter, 10 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: but it's been confirmed since then that the Bills are 11 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: working on to trade with Chicago Bears. They're going to 12 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: bring in wide receiver Dj Moore, who signed a contract 13 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: extension with the Bears in July of twenty twenty four, 14 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: this last year to be extended. He's coming off two 15 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: straight seasons of ninety plus receptions with the Bears. He 16 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: didn't have that great a year this last year as 17 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams started to you know, the offense started to 18 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: evolve with Caleb Williams and all that. But Dj Moore, 19 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: who's an eight year veteran, he had five years, five 20 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: years with Carolina. Now he's last three with Chicago. Signed 21 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: an extension with Carolina, then got traded to Chicago as 22 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Got traded to Chicago in the deal 23 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: that allowed Chicago or allowed Carolina to pick Bryce Young 24 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: first overall. He was part of the sweet nerd that 25 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: made Chicago trade that pick to Carolina. He can play. 26 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: He's got a deal that is worth They're gonna get 27 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: forty million dollars in guarantees to DJ Moore for this contract. 28 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: The Bills will guarantee fifteen point five in a week. 29 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: They will guarantee his base salary this year probably, and 30 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: they can convert some of it to base salary. The 31 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: lowerest cap as low as six million bucks or a 32 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: little below seven million dollars this year. But they're guaranteeing him. 33 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: It looks like over the next three weeks about forty 34 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: million dollars to come in and play wide receiver for 35 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. He's a legit dude. He was twenty 36 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: fourth pick overall in twenty eighteen, same year Josh Allen 37 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: came out. He was the twenty fourth pick. Josh was 38 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: the seventh pick. He has played well. Had a down 39 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: year this last year, and it looks like Chicago, and 40 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: because of the structure of the contract, Chicago's getting a 41 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: huge amount of cap really for this. So it looks 42 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: like DJ Moore is gonna be a Buffalo. Bill More 43 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: was the most recent winner of the Walter Payton Man 44 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: of the Year, so he's that kind of guy. He 45 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: was with Chicago Walter Payton's team, and he was there. 46 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 1: Walter Payton Man of the Year would seem to fit 47 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: fit the culture wherever he's gonna play. He's one of 48 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: those guys. He started his career as a twenty fourth 49 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: overall pick. He signed a second year contract with Carolina, 50 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: got traded Chicago. His contract runs through twenty twenty nine 51 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: and it averages twenty four point five in all of 52 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: those years. So sooner or later you're gonna have to 53 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: pay that piper. Nobody cares if he can play. He's 54 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: only he has not missed a game in knock On Wood. 55 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: He has not missed a game in five years, seventeen games, 56 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: seventeen games he played in seventeen games a year he 57 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: started in Yes, that's all in it. So DJ Moore 58 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: looks like he's coming to Buffalo to be a Buffalo Bill. 59 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: He's a dude, Josh, what do you think. 60 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big chunk of change, right, Yeah, it's 61 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: a big roll of the dice. 62 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: It really is. 63 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: But I've said it since the offseason began, and I 64 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: said it on here the last two days. 65 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: This. 66 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: I really like Brandon Bean in this position. I do 67 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: because I thought he was going to be aggressive and 68 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: here we are. Here he goes out and he finds 69 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: himself what they believe to be a number one wide 70 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: receiver and the talent is there. 71 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: You mentioned it, one of the big things. He's twenty 72 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 3: nine years. 73 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: Old, right, so it's gonna be gonna be So the 74 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: age is maybe a little bit of a concern, but 75 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: you outlined it there. 76 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: He doesn't miss games. 77 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: In fact, not only has he not missed a game 78 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: since twenty twenty, in twenty twenty he missed one game, 79 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 2: and in twenty nineteen he missed one game. So his 80 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: entire career he's missed a total of. 81 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 3: Two games and nine seasons. 82 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: That says a lot about a guy who is going 83 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: to stay on the field and fight through it, because, 84 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: let's face it, all guys are dealing with injuries. He 85 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: fights through it. He stays on the field, he's reliable. 86 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 2: If you were somebody that liked the Mike Evans idea, 87 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: this guy's this guy several years younger. 88 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they the Bills are giving up the sixtieth 89 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: pick in this year's draft, the number two to the 90 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: second round pick sixtieth, they keep the twenty sixth pick, 91 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: they give up the sixtieth pick. They get back the 92 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: one sixty one, sixty four. I'm sorry. So Chicago gives 93 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: the Bills a sixth rounder and I'm sorry, the twenty 94 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: fifth pick of the fifth round. The Bills get back 95 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: a fifth in this year's draft and give up the 96 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: sixtieth pick in this year's draft, and they get DJ Moore. Well, 97 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: it's big, it's huge. 98 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,799 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a this is a wide receiver 99 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: now that other defenses are gonna actually have to game 100 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: plan for. They're gonna have to go into a week 101 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: and go, Okay, we have to limit the way that 102 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: DJ Moore can possibly beat us. That's what they're going 103 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: to have to do. DJ Moore, to me, is a 104 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: wide receiver that not only is he good, there's a 105 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: trickle down effect there. He's going to make the other 106 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: receivers in the room better because there's gonna be a 107 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: few more eyeballs looking his way, going all right, you 108 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: know Dj Moore, what's he doing on this play? 109 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 3: You know based on the formation. 110 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: He's got a track record with Joe Brady too, because 111 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 2: Joe Brady was his offensive coordinator for two years in 112 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 2: Carolina and he put up big numbers in those two years. 113 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 2: So there's a comfortability that comes. 114 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: To there's a level of comfort with those two and 115 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. So I guess the topic of the 116 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: day was gonna be, you know, what's the one free 117 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: agent the Bills are losing that you want to keep. 118 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, because what do you think about? This 119 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: is what you know? Tweet at us if you want, uh, 120 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: it's yeah, this is you know. DJ Moore is a 121 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: is a guy that he signed a second contract with Carolina. 122 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: They loved him. Then they have to give him up 123 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: to Chicago in the deal that sends Bryce Young to 124 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: Carolina as the first round as the first overall pick. 125 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: He signed an extension with Chicago. They loved him. He 126 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: had in twenty three he had ninety oh see in 127 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: twenty three, ninety six receptions. 128 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: Thirteen hundred yards, that's right, and in twenty touchdown that's right. 129 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: And in twenty four he also had ninety six ninety 130 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: three catches something like that. I mean, the guy was 131 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: he he's had a lot of catching. Now this last 132 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: year he only had fifty catches for six hundred and 133 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: some yards. I can't remember, but he's yeah, he's a playing. 134 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I know what a lot of fans will 135 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: say is, you know, why was he available? 136 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: Right? 137 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: Why was he Why were the Bills able to camp 138 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: relief Caprileaf? And the other part of the equation is 139 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: the Bears have gone young at the skill position, right, 140 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: they go out draft roma dunsay, they in Loveland the 141 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: tight end, they've got some young pieces burning on the outside. 142 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: They've got younger pieces on the outside now. So he 143 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: was somebody that they could afford to dangle to a 144 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: Bills and go, look you need a wide receiver, we 145 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: need cap relief. And look, the sixtieth pick overall is 146 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: nothing to sneeze at either. So they're getting a really 147 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: valuable draft commodity in exchange. 148 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: I think this is a win. 149 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 2: This is one of those instances where it's really a 150 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: win for both teams. 151 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: In this one. Yeah, that the Bears are getting an 152 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,959 Speaker 1: enormous amount of cap relief and then they can use 153 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: that to build their roster in a different way. Romadonza 154 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: is was a guy, a young guy for them. He 155 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: got a stress fraction in his foot and couldn't play, 156 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: and Dj Moore stepped into that. Interesting and I look, 157 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: this is me when I look for stuff, and you 158 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: look at what happened this last season. They needed Dj 159 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: Moore to step in when Romaduonze went down, and he 160 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: had his best game against the Green Bay Packers, you know, 161 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: which is a good timing, which is huge in Chicago. 162 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: So in the big moments, he stepped up and played 163 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: well for the team he was on the Bears, and 164 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: so yeah, good for him. This is yeah, this is 165 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: not nothing. This is getting ready. This is posturing for 166 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: the draft. So now this changes. I think what happens 167 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: in late April when the Bills pick at twenty six. 168 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you look, I know a lot of Bills 169 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: fans wanted to see, Hey, twenty six gotta be a 170 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: wide receiver. You gotta find a you gotta fill that 171 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: need at twenty six. Here we are with Dj Moore. 172 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 2: Now that probably changes the conversation. I also know that 173 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: there are a lot of Bills fans out there that like, 174 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: I don't care take another receiver at twenty six, But 175 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: I look, this changes that. To me, this changes a 176 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: lot in particular because you're switching defenses now and there's 177 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: a lot of holes on that side of the ball 178 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna need to address. And this is a this 179 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: is a draft where at twenty six there's linebacker and 180 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: it's safety. 181 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 3: And yesterday we even talked about it. If you get a. 182 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: Safety at twenty six, it may be a premier player 183 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: because of the position and the value that's placed on 184 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: that position. But I do think it changes a little 185 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 2: bit of that conversation. Spot Track is one of the 186 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: guys that I know, we both follow. 187 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: They do a great job. 188 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: Of breaking down different things when it comes to the 189 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: salary cap and everything. 190 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 3: I thought this was interesting. 191 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: He said Buffalo can process a full salary conversion on 192 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: DJ Moore upon acquiring him, lowering his cap hit to 193 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: six point seventy five and twenty twenty six, creating seventeen 194 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: and a half million of space. I mean, that's that 195 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: that's good stuff right there. 196 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that really helps this year. He averaged one thousand 197 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: yards a year in his three years with Chicago, despite 198 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: having only six hundred and eighty two and nine hundred 199 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: and sixty six in the last two years combined. In 200 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: the year he had nine hundred and sixty six that 201 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: was on ninety eight receptions. So they used him as 202 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: a slot guy, an inside guy, but or at least 203 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: it looks that way. But man, oh man, he had 204 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 1: thirteen hundred yards in twenty twenty three, nine hundred and 205 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: sixty six in twenty twenty four, only six hundred and 206 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: eighty two this last year on fifty receptions, but it 207 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: was his second highest total with Chicago in yards per 208 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: catch or h yards per catch. It's really an intriguing trade. 209 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: This is this is a player that has been really 210 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: productive in his time. He was a first round pick 211 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: and has played like it. He's got eight thousand, over 212 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: eight thousand career yards in receiving in an eight year career. 213 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: And he he there is position flexibility there. 214 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: I mean, he can play on the outside. As you mentioned, 215 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: he's shown that he can play in the slot. So 216 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 2: it'll be it's gonna be fun to see exactly how 217 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 2: Joe Brady manipulates him, moves him around on the defense. 218 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: And I mean he's a guy that we even saw 219 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 2: lineup in the backfield and make plays throughout his NFL career, 220 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: coming out of the backfield and catching passes that way. 221 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: He's a jet sweet guy. He's somebody that can. He's 222 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 2: got all the tools in the tool bag. 223 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an ext receiver and has been used everywhere 224 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: as most guys are at certain points in their career 225 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: depending on the matchups of the defense and all of that. 226 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: He's I think we're going to see a motivated DJ 227 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: Moore too. 228 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: He's a legit dude, and it will be interesting to 229 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: see how he does. Twenty eight gonna be twenty nine 230 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: in April. I think this contract lines up exactly where 231 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: if he's productive, obviously, if he plays well, it's a 232 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: perfect timing for his career. His line his contracts line 233 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: up with his age, so he's if you got if 234 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: he's got three more years of productivity in his tank, 235 00:12:55,160 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: his contract perfectly lines up with that. So and his 236 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: track record is a healthy guy who shows up every week. Yeah. 237 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 2: And I was talking to Eric Wood on the ride 238 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: end to the studio and I brought up the age thing, 239 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: and I said, you know, what do you how do 240 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: you feel about that when you hear age is the 241 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: fact that he goes and he brought up, look, the 242 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 2: guy's never hurt a and he goes twenty nine. Now, 243 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: isn't twenty nine what it used to be? 244 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: Like? 245 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 3: This guy changes Like look. 246 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: I can get it. 247 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 2: You'll see a little bit of the drop off and 248 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: stuff that happens with everybody at any position. 249 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: But he goes. 250 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: He didn't seem to think that age when it comes 251 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: to DJ Moore is necessarily. 252 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: This huge drawback and a huge concern for him. And 253 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: I thought, you know, anytime Eric. 254 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: Wood wants to drop some dolage on me, I'm gonna 255 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: take it and share it with with the viewers in 256 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: the and the fans. 257 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's certainly every guy's different. Some guy's age 258 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: more graceful fully than others. But I think that's the 259 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: real that's the issue with this. If you don't like it, 260 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: it's probably because of the money and the guarantees in 261 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: the contract. The bills have gone down this road. You know, 262 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago with Vaughn and there had 263 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people tay you they're in the same 264 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: boat with Palmer the same way. That's that's what it 265 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: takes to get one of these guys. Say what you want. 266 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe this does Maybe this doesn't change the draft 267 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: for a lot of people, draft another one at twenty six, 268 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, finally get some guys. I still think they've 269 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: got some work to do on the defensive side of 270 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: the ball. They'll probably we'll probably start hearing about that 271 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: as free agency opens up. But I think this is 272 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: a great place to start. 273 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it changes your need and free agency immediately 274 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: right now. 275 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: You know. 276 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: The thought was, okay, when we sat down yesterday read 277 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: down through all the lists of free agents and went 278 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: over some of the wide receivers that could be available 279 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: for the Bills, Well that I think that crosses that 280 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: off the list immediately. The drafts another conversation. I think 281 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: you can still look to add in the draft a 282 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: younger receiver that you can help develop him and everything. 283 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: But it's sitting at twenty six now, and with no 284 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: pick in the second round anymore, you gotta make number 285 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 2: twenty six count. 286 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 3: I mean, there's I mean, you gotta make. 287 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: Account and it'll be interesting now, you know, because we've 288 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: seen Brandon in the. 289 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: Past, not afraid to move up, not afraid to move back. 290 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: Now, if you move back, you can maybe recoup some 291 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: of that draft capital. 292 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, sixty, that's the only way you do it. And 293 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't say that the things we've been talking about 294 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: up to this point or off the table either. And 295 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: there might be guys on this roster that have out 296 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: don't fit. If there are, and you can get something 297 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,359 Speaker 1: for them from a team where they do fit. Yeah, 298 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: and that comes with draft capital. 299 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 300 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: DJ Moore was the twenty fourth overall pick and the 301 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: Bills got him for a sixtieth so and nine years 302 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: later and nine years later and flip this and flipped 303 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: back in the background and got a fifth back in return. 304 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: So we'll see. 305 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 3: I would say Josh Allen's having a good day to day. 306 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he I mean finds out this news 307 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 2: that he's got himself a you know, we that guy. 308 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: And you know we've been enamored with wideouts before. Sure, 309 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how the guy plays when 310 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: he gets here. 311 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, I know Steph Diggs wat is welcome. 312 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: Before he left, before he headed out the door, and 313 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: you know he did it again in New England and 314 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: all the whole thing. But Steph Diggs had a track 315 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: record before he got here of producing on the field, right, 316 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: DJ moorees got a track record. I know Diggs was 317 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: a little younger, he was a couple of years younger 318 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: than right now. But look at the same time, they're 319 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: both productive on the field, and there's nothing that leads 320 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: me to believe that DJ Moore is not gonna come here. Look, 321 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is a really good NFL quarterback and he 322 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: may end up being elite, but Josh Allen's already elite. 323 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: So I think that's a pretty good place to start. 324 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 2: I mean, who was throwing them the ball in Carolina when. 325 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: Joe Brady Cam was there. Cam Newton was his early 326 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: uh play, his early comp as early quarterback, but that 327 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: was at the end. That was three years after Cam 328 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: had gone to the Super Bowl. 329 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was a little different, Yeah, a little different. 330 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: And then he you know, three years in Chicago, he 331 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: had I think two years of Caleb Williams. One year 332 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: he had ninety eight, you know, ninety catches with Caleb, Right, 333 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: So this is Caleb's second year, This was Caleb's second year, right, So. 334 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 2: I don't know, he's put up huge numbers with Oka 335 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 2: quarterback play. Now, Caleb's more than okay now, But that 336 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 2: was last year. 337 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: That Caleb Williams two years ago. 338 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: And and that the rookie version of Caleb Williams wasn't 339 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 2: exactly lighting the world on fire. There were some questions 340 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: about Caleb Williams in that first year. 341 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, man, is he gonna figure it out? 342 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: Of course, then they go and get Ben Jons right, 343 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: and then you know the change obviously, the structure of 344 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: their offense, the way they do things. They add a 345 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 2: couple of young pieces. Ben Johnson maybe says, I don't 346 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 2: know how much we need DJ Moore. 347 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 3: Clearly they didn't think they needed them, because they trade 348 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 3: them away. 349 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: Well, they needed the money worse than they needed the player. 350 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: And and there you have. I mean, they Tremaine Edmonds 351 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: is going to be a cap casualty. DJ Moore is 352 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: going to be a cap casualty, and they're gonna just 353 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: kind of keep trucking on there. And they're in a 354 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: position where, you know, the bills were a few years 355 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: ago when it was time to pay Josh or you know, 356 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: align the roster where Josh could be effective. And these guys, 357 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, because of their salaries, because of their age, 358 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: and because of some of the young guys who have 359 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 1: emerged like Romadonze for the Chicago Bears and say well 360 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: we got we got guys. So yeah, I mean there's 361 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: we've seen it. 362 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 2: We're watching these highlights right now, going these are Carolina highlights. 363 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, these are Carolina Island. 364 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: And I think Joe Brady probably has obviously signed off 365 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: on this, yeah, and said, no, this guy's he's a 366 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: culture guy, no question, it's Walter Payton, Mann of the 367 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: Year guy for the Chicago Bears. Joe Brady's got a 368 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: track record with him earlier in his career. And yeah, 369 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: when you they there's no doubt you think about this. 370 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: And there's names we don't know about. And certainly these 371 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: free agent names that we've been talking about with Alec 372 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: Pierce and Rashid Shaheed, Mike Evans, Wandale Robinson, Romeo Dobbs, 373 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings, all these guys that are out there are 374 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: on the list. But there are also other team teams 375 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: in the same position that DJ Moore was with in Chicago, 376 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: guys who may be out there that you could trade for. 377 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: And certainly this is one of the guys that Joe 378 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: Brady said, No, I don't have a problem with No. 379 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: DJ Moore is on my leg. Yeah, I'll take DJ 380 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: Moore sure. One of those kind of things along with 381 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: the names on other lists that we don't know. 382 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 2: About and that track wreck it's important like having that 383 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 2: coach three for a coach, that's important. And you know 384 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: what I would say, it's probably also important to DJ 385 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: Moore with it for just being comfortable, you know what 386 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 2: I mean. 387 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: He has heard the way Joe Brady runs offensive meetings. 388 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 3: He knows there there. 389 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: You know, there's a backstory between those two that where 390 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 2: they're obviously Joe likes him enough to go, hey, come 391 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 2: on in, we'd love you to help. 392 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: This offense get to the next level. 393 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: There's always a level of that with Joe's a first 394 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: time head coach. He's seeking a comfort level. He wants 395 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: guys that he wants the because there's so much it's unpredictable, right. 396 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: Coaches love things that they can predict. They love dependable guys, 397 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: they love track records what we're talking about. They love 398 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: guys that they trust and DJ Moore's obviously on that list, 399 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: or at least he seems to be right. 400 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 2: And you mentioned the Alec Pierces, some of these higher 401 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: end wide receivers. Look, they were gonna get every bit 402 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 2: of every dollar that we're talking about with DJ Moore, 403 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: like they were gonna get huge paychecks and are still 404 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: going to get huge maybe more so. 405 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 3: How much do you really trust Alec Pierce point? 406 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 2: I mean, look, you sitting here, we just read down 407 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 2: the resume of DJ Moore. Not much more he could 408 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 2: have done, you know in his NFL career. 409 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: Don't think Brandon Bean didn't know exactly what Alec Pierce 410 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: is looking for. 411 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely no. 412 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: I mean, because they is a free agent, they can 413 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: call they can call his repisent say what do you 414 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: guys think and what have you heard? What's going on? 415 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: And if that conversation goes in directions like that takes 416 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: you out of it. 417 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: And the way those dominoes fall when it comes to 418 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: free agency. If Alec Pierce ends up being the highest 419 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: paid guy and it's substantially more than what DJ Moore 420 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: is gonna. 421 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 3: Get, get, those dominoes fall. 422 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: Number two is gonna get probably more than DJ as well, 423 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: and three. 424 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: It. The thing that will surprise me is if Alec 425 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: Pierce comes back or one of these other shiny guys 426 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: on the on the shelf come back and they're getting 427 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, ten million a year. Wow, that's a different 428 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: then then it's like then it's a different conversation. 429 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 3: But brandons all that. 430 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: I would think I'd be surprised if that happens. Alec 431 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: Pierce is gonna get paid at least what DJ Horse 432 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: getting from the Bills, and I don't know that you 433 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: could finagle it that you're gonna save the get down 434 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: below seven million dollars in a cap hit this year. 435 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: If they indeed do renegotiate that, it's gonna be interesting 436 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: to see. I'm uh, this is okay. Here we are 437 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: in the off season. I mean the Bills aren't even 438 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: cap compliant yet. 439 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: No, but I mean that's gonna be coming soon. I 440 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 2: mean the moves have to happen real soon. Yeah, I mean, 441 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 2: I mean we're literally this may be the Look. I 442 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 2: don't even know what day of the week it is, Thursday. 443 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: Thursday, It may be this is the fifth they got 444 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: to get compliant by what is it? When is it 445 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: the eleventh? 446 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 3: Eleventh? Eleventh is the start of the official start of 447 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: the league year. 448 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: This may be. It may be that we'll get some 449 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: some simultaneous announcements. When they announced the DJ Moore trade, 450 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: they'll also announce some restructurings. Maybe yeah, I mean, I 451 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 1: don't know. 452 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: You're thinking it'll probably lead up to it. 453 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: We're waiting waiting to hear. Maybe we don't hear. Maybe 454 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: Joe Brady's telling him never to announce it. That's his 455 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: new that's our ement, head coach. We don't announce any 456 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: cap deals. You're gonna have to look online to find 457 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: out our cap numbers. We're not telling you about any restructures. 458 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, Maybe they won't. 459 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: It's a swing though they look they took a swing. 460 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 2: DJ Moore is a swing and I love it. 461 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: There's gonna be and Bill's fans gotta you gotta gotta 462 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: be ready, you gotta buckle it up because there's you're 463 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: there's gonna be. Some people are like, wow, love this move. 464 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: This is a smart move. The guy's there, he's available, 465 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: he's just got that. That I all that. And then 466 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: other people people going, you're giving all these guarantees to 467 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: a guy that's twenty nine years old, gonna be twenty 468 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: nine in in a couple of in a month, and 469 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna get crushed for it. It's gonna get both 470 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: those You gint both sides of that sword. 471 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 3: I have already looking forward to Fisher now. 472 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, I like when the st John when it 473 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: when it became, when they became a Fisher, I'm like, oh, man, Fisher, 474 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: that's a little more juice there. We get down to 475 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 2: Fisher and they start working out, the training camp rolls around. 476 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 3: It's like, man, what a juicy storyline. H dj Moore is. 477 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: When we actually get to see him out there going 478 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 2: up against the defense with Josh Allen. 479 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 3: Throwing them the ball, I'm like, man, so get me 480 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 3: the Fisher now. 481 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: So Buffalo gets DJ Moore in a twenty and this 482 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: year's fifth round pick of Chicago. Chicago gets Buffalo's sixtieth 483 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: pick overall, and that. 484 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 3: Fifth round er is raderrou On one sixty is that 485 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: run sixty four? 486 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 5: I be? 487 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 1: I mean just double check. So yes, one sixty outside 488 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: the Bills picked twenty six, ninety one won twenty six, 489 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: and now the one sixty four pick the ones they 490 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: have their own one sixty seven pick. Then they have 491 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: the Jets two thousand and two and nineteenth pick, and 492 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: they get Dallas' two hundred and twenty seventh pick. So 493 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: they've got uh yeah, two picks inside the top one 494 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: hundred one twenty six, one sixty four, one sixty seven. 495 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: Right there's the right there that one twenty six, one 496 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: sixty four, one sixty seven. They'll get somebody in this. 497 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: Oh yes, and maybe not all three of them, but 498 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna hit on one of those guys, I bet. 499 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 3: And and being always he is, he's good. 500 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: He hits in that that that round they got five 501 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: to six right in there, they got a four and 502 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 2: two fives yep, and that he is shown he has 503 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 2: a track record of hitting on those guys. So you 504 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 2: hinted on it a little bit, and I think it 505 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: was a really good point. There are gonna be some 506 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,479 Speaker 2: players now that are that the Bills have on this roster, 507 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: much like the Bears have with DJ Moore, where it 508 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: just doesn't fit anymore. Just I mean, whether it's a 509 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: defensive piece that just doesn't fit anymore with Jim Leonard 510 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: and the way he wants to run the defense. So 511 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 2: we could see maybe one of those guys that's valuable 512 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: still it can still play, that gets traded out for 513 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 2: a draft pick that comes back in return. So that 514 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: just because those are the draft picks they have now, 515 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: that could change quickly in the next. 516 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: Who knows where how it'll work out and what the 517 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: conversations are I think we're finding out in this day 518 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: and age. It used to never you never knew, and 519 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: because it was never publicized, nobody was interested in it either. 520 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: But nowadays with social media and all the clubs have 521 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: their own like us, that's media wing within the building, 522 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: you're starting to realize the phone is off, the hook 523 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: is on. They're on the phone. All every general managers 524 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: on the phone all the time with every other general manager. 525 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: They talk all the time. I didn't realize it was 526 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: such a free flow of ideas between gms and so 527 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: until we started going to the combine and we started 528 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: catching these guys. You know, you walk around and it's 529 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: Less Sneaed and Brandon Beaner standing there. It's Bucks having 530 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: whispery yeah, and I'm you know yeah, and nothing ever happens. 531 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: You don't never see a deal between Less Sneed and 532 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: Brandon bean But it's like those guys are talking. Yeah. 533 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: So that's the fun part of this whole era that 534 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: we're in a is you know, you realize how much 535 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: free flow of stuff there is across across the world. 536 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: That's why I always love when you hear a GM say, well, 537 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 2: we're not actively shopping that player, we're not making calls. 538 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: You don't have to make calls, right because you can 539 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 2: get incoming calls. 540 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: Well, it was funny because when this trade got come out, 541 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: We're going to take a break right in here in 542 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: a minute. But this trade was floated out there and 543 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: now I can't even remember the GM of the Chicago 544 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: Bears name. What's his name? Hold on, I'll see if 545 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: I can get it. Brian Poles. So, Brian Poles is 546 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: at the combine and he is saying how much they 547 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: love DJ Moore, He's the best. We're not going we're 548 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: not moving on from and we love him, we want 549 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: him here in Chicago, and it's like, oh, he's for 550 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: sale right right, So everything has a price, right everything, everything, Uh, 551 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: everything comes around. So we're gonna take a break. Josh Reed, 552 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here at one Bill's Live. We're gonna we're 553 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: gonna be com back. We've got a couple of guests 554 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: coming up on the show as well. Stick with us, 555 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Josh Reed, were presented by Kalida Clida. 556 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 3: Health and we'll be back right after this. 557 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live Steve Tasker, Josh Reed, 558 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: Josh sitting in for Brownie this week. We'd like to 559 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: introduce a friend of the show. He is the sideline 560 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: reporter for the Chicago Bears. He's a former NFL fullback, 561 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: Jason McKee. Thanks for joining us, Jason, appreciate you. You said, 562 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: and we were talking just off the air, and when 563 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: you read in the run up and the and the 564 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: aftermath of this trade between the Chicago Bears and the 565 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, the Bears fans kind of saw it writing 566 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: on the wall as far as DJ Moore was concerned. Uh, 567 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 1: just give us your take on you know, how obvious 568 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: this trade was gonna be for somebody, not just the 569 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. 570 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 571 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 6: I think when you look at the cap number that 572 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 6: DJ had this year, and obviously the Bear's trying to 573 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 6: get under the cap, you know. Now even more so 574 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 6: with the retiring of Drew Dollman added more holes to 575 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 6: this to this team in particular, So you know, Ryan 576 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 6: Poles and company trying to. 577 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 4: Find ways to get under that cap, to add more. 578 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 6: Pieces and to fill as many holes as they can 579 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 6: in free agency, and you know you can't fill all 580 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 6: the holes via the draft. So you lose a veteran 581 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 6: receiver that was very productive, a guy that was well 582 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 6: liked in the locker room, a guy who made a 583 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 6: ton of plays, you know, on the Chicago Bears football 584 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 6: team in particularly this year, but throughout us throughout its 585 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 6: entirety since he was in the Bears uniform. So it's 586 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 6: bittersweet because he was a guy that did a lot 587 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 6: of things. He was really really good in terms of 588 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 6: run blocking in the run game with the run scheme 589 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 6: that Ben Johnson implemented this year. 590 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 4: DJ was a vital part of that. So we lose 591 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 4: all of that. 592 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 6: And to say that Buffalo games all of that, you 593 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 6: get a receiver that's tough, that's physical. 594 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 4: A guy who has familiarity with Joe Brady. 595 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 6: During the time with the Carolina Panthers, Joe Brady was 596 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 6: to see there for two years with DJ Moore, who 597 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 6: during both of those years went for over eleven hundred 598 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 6: yards so you know, Josh Allen and company get a 599 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 6: nice weapon with DJ Moore added to the mix. 600 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: Jason, one of the big concerns I can already hear 601 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 2: it now from the fan base is he's going to 602 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: be twenty nine years old before the start of the season. 603 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 2: You know, you look at you know, when you go 604 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: down and look at his production over the years, last 605 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: season probably is the one that stands out the most 606 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: because of his lack of production last season. So what's 607 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: left in the tank for DJ Moore? And should the 608 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: age be a concern? 609 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 6: I don't think he should be a concern. He played 610 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 6: in every game this year. He's tough, He's played hurt, 611 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 6: you know, a ton throughout his career, especially here in Chicago. 612 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 6: And I think to dipping the numbers we saw last 613 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 6: year with the Bears was because you had to emergency 614 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 6: of a lot of you players. You can talk about 615 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 6: Colston Lovelin, Luther Burn, Romo Dunes. They come out came 616 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 6: out the gates strong of this season with the Chicago Bears. 617 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 6: And Ben Johnson's a guy who you know doesn't really 618 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 6: necessarily have a number one receiver. His route concepts is 619 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 6: based upon what the defense is giving him, and he 620 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 6: loves to spread the ball around. So I think that's 621 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 6: why you saw the dipping production from DJ Moore. But 622 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 6: when he was a true bona fide number one receiver, 623 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 6: just like his days in Carolina, he produced and he 624 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 6: produced those big numbers, you know, under Joe Brady. So 625 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 6: it'll be interesting to see, you know, how the Bills 626 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 6: and you guys utilize him. But I think there's plenty 627 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 6: of meat left on the bone in DJ Moore's career. 628 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: No, you stand on the sidelines to watch these Bears 629 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: teams play, how have they and it seems like, you know, 630 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: we're here in Buffalo, so we're following the Bills. But 631 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: the Bears, you know, you kind of kind of give 632 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: him the side. I check on him once a while. 633 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams in particular, they evolved pretty quickly this year, right, 634 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Caleb Williams became what looks to be a 635 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: guy who's going to be there for quite some time. 636 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: This is no, there's the question marks have been answered, correct. 637 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 6: Correct, Yeah, And this team has really taken on the 638 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 6: identity of their head coach, Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson, obviously, 639 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 6: we see how he is and how he interacts with 640 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 6: other coach He's the ultimate confident coach because he puts 641 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 6: in the work and he does not let any detail slip. 642 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 6: The preparation is at in a mental level, and he's 643 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 6: instilled that in this team. And not only that, this 644 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 6: team has a strong belief, a belief amongst themselves, a 645 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 6: belief in his coaching staff, and they had a belief 646 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 6: that they can win in any game. 647 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 4: Last year we saw that time and time again. 648 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 6: This team was down seven times under two minutes left 649 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 6: in the game and came out on top. 650 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 4: So when you have that recipe, we have that belief. 651 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 6: When you have a coach that's been able to embed 652 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 6: a culture throughout the locker room and those players uphold 653 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 6: that culture, where you get the results that the Bears 654 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 6: had this year. 655 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: Look, Bill's fans have been thirsty for any type of 656 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 2: wide receiver news and they get it here with Dj Moore. 657 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 2: So we kind of know the temperature in the room 658 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: here after the trade. What is the temperature in the 659 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: room amongst Chicago Bears fans knowing that they're getting back 660 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: the sixtieth pick for DJ Moore. 661 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 6: I think it's a bittersweet because there's a lot of fans. Right, 662 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 6: DJ was well liked in the community, It was well 663 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 6: liked in the locker room. He made like I said before, 664 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 6: he made a lot of tough plays. And I think 665 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 6: when you look at a Chicago Bears receiver, right, it 666 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 6: was said a long time ago and one of my 667 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 6: former teammates said that Chicago is where receivers go to die. 668 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 6: And I think when you look at DJ Moore's career, 669 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 6: you look at some of the receivers that have come 670 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 6: before DJ. You talked about Alshon, Jeffrey, Brandon Marshall, that's 671 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 6: not the case. And DJ Moore is a true blue 672 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 6: collar receiver. He's not a typical Prima Donna receiver to 673 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 6: where he's not trying to. 674 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 4: Get his jersey dirty. He's going to go in there 675 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 4: and go in there and make blocks and legan on 676 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 4: the linebacker. 677 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 6: If it's called for, he's gonna make that tough, contested, 678 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 6: physical catch. 679 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 4: Over the middle of a defense. 680 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 6: And then he can make those deep, big molst of 681 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 6: players that we saw him make here in Chicago, you know, 682 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 6: in critical moments. So you know, like I said before, 683 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 6: Buffalo's getting complete receiver. You're getting a tough receiver. A 684 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 6: guy who's a true football player. I mean Ben Johnson 685 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 6: even utilized him in the backfield last year as well. 686 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 6: So you're getting a nice weapon to go along with 687 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 6: that great quarterback that you guys have there by the 688 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 6: name of Josh Allen. 689 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because Caleb Williams he'll pull off a 690 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: Josh Allen type play pretty regularly, right, I mean they 691 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: do stuff that you don't think anybody else, nobody else 692 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: will do, right, And Caleb Williams has that in his game. 693 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: In fact, you know that you're right, they're down at 694 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 1: the two minute warning in seven games this year. Come 695 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: out and win those games. That's big. How does how 696 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: does Johnson, you know, your head coach, incorporate that into philosophy? Right? 697 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: How do you get that last two minutes where you're down? 698 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: How do you do that in the first quarter, second quarter? 699 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? How's that offense going to 700 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: evolve with a quarterback and the unique skill set that 701 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams has, kind of like Josh Allen here in Buffalo? 702 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think now, you know, with Caleb, you know 703 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 6: being you know, look at Caleb, right, first two years, 704 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 6: two offenses, a bunch of head coaches instability. Well, now 705 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 6: you have a guy you know that's going to be here, 706 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 6: you know for a while in Chicago, guy who has 707 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 6: a good track record in terms of putting together a 708 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 6: productive offense and it started throughout his days in Detroit 709 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 6: and he brings that here in Chicago. So you have 710 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 6: a guy, you have some stability, and now Caleb can 711 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 6: build upon what he did last year. And Ben Johnson, 712 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 6: I think, you know, the Bears are just scratching the 713 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 6: surface of how dynamic this offense can be because you know, 714 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 6: in year two, guys are gonna be more more comfortable. 715 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 6: And now Ben can add more layers on this offense. 716 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 6: And they got a ton of young playmakers, you know, 717 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 6: on the perimeter for Caleb to distribute at football too. 718 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 6: So you lose DJ, you lose a veteran presence in 719 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 6: that wide receiver locker room, but you got guys like 720 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,400 Speaker 6: Luther Burton, the emergence of Coaston Loveland, John ay Walker obviously, 721 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 6: Roma dunees that you have a ton of weapons at 722 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 6: the disposal for Caleb Williams. And then Caleb is a 723 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 6: weapon himself, like you mentioned Steve, with the amount of 724 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 6: ways that he can get out of the pockets, right, 725 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 6: put it like, put a lot of put a lot 726 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 6: of a lot of stress. You don't a lot of 727 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 6: quarterbacks can't make in this league. And he and he 728 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 6: put that on display time and time again. So you know, 729 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 6: I think the error is still pointing up even despite 730 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 6: the departure of DJ Moore. But he's definitely a guy 731 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 6: that's going to be missed in the Chicago community, among 732 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 6: the fan base and in that locker room. 733 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 2: Look like a lot of people out there, I'm a 734 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 2: fantasy football a lot of people out there. What's what's 735 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 2: the loss of DJ Moore? Mean the impact? You know, 736 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 2: how's that spread out now. 737 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 3: To the rest of the wide receivers. 738 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's just target volumes go up. 739 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 6: You know, I think you know it's it's going to 740 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 6: be spread out with Ben Johnson because you know, he 741 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 6: said it in a press conference this year. He doesn't 742 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 6: go into a game plan saying that, hey, I have 743 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 6: to get this particular player eight targets. Right, He's gonna 744 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 6: spread that football around. That ball is going to go 745 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 6: to where that you know, the average dictates, and you 746 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 6: know it could be you know, coast and leveln can 747 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 6: have the hot hand. Luther Burden can have the hot 748 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 6: hot hand one week. You know, Romo Dunes, they can 749 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 6: have the hot hand one week. If Cole Comet is 750 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 6: back and forth, he could have a hot hand one week. 751 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 6: So I think when you're making defenses, defend every blade 752 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 6: of grass, right, and the complexity of an offense that 753 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 6: Ben Johnson instills, it makes it difficult. 754 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 4: But hey, productivity follows that. 755 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 6: So it's been exciting to see and it's gonna be 756 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 6: also exciting to see how that continues to grow throughout, 757 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 6: you know, this season and throughout training camp and what 758 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 6: they can put on display next year. 759 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 3: Sounds like everybody eats that's right. Yeah, sounds like someth 760 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 3: Weaver heard a lot. 761 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: That's right. We so give us an idea. So now 762 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: the Bears have freed up, like you said, a ton 763 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: of cap space. They got some young white out so 764 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: that they're probably gonna lean into for their young quarterback. 765 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 1: What's it looked like for this What are the holes 766 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: they gotta fill? I know Tremaine Edmonds has been asked 767 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: he can go seek a trade that if they release 768 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: him post June one, that'll free up a lot more space. 769 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: What are they going to do in free agency in 770 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: the draft. 771 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of holes now, right, And you just 772 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 6: added a big hole right in the middle of your 773 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 6: offense with Drew Dalmond retiring. Right, the center and quarterback 774 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 6: have synergy, right, they're responsible for a lot of things. 775 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 6: Center obviously making a lot of the calls that that 776 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 6: designates and sets the pass protection right, but also in 777 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 6: the run game him being able to get everybody on 778 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 6: the same page. 779 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 4: And so that's a. 780 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 6: Big hole in a big boy left by the retirement 781 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 6: of Drew Dolmen. But you had another hole with with 782 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 6: Ozzie Trapilo that their rookie left tackle being hurt, who 783 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 6: was just coming into his own and slow to find 784 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 6: that left tackle position. You got to decide what you're 785 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 6: gonna do with safety. You got Kevin Byrd and Jakwan Brisker. 786 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 6: What are you gonna do there? You mentioned Treman Edwards, 787 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 6: a linebacker. 788 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 5: T J. 789 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 6: Edwards is the linebacker they got hurt at the end 790 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 6: of the season. So you have holes there. So it's 791 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 6: going to be an urging to see what the Bears do. 792 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 6: Also defensive line, you know, the talk has been Max Crosby, 793 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 6: what are you going to do? 794 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 4: To try to create pressure and get pressure on a quarterback. 795 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 6: So there's a lot of holes, you know, on this Bears, 796 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 6: on this Bears team right now to be interesting to see, 797 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 6: you know, what Ryan Poles does and what direction he 798 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 6: goes in with with this new amount of caps space 799 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 6: he's created, you know, with the trade of DJ and 800 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 6: the retiring of Drew Doome. 801 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 2: Jason, give me a little bit more on Tremaine Edmonds, 802 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 2: right because when his contract came up here in Buffalo, 803 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 2: that was a big topic of conversation because they've spent 804 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 2: a high first round draft pick on him. 805 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 3: He played well, he was. 806 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 2: Never just kind of never really turned that corner where 807 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 2: he was an elite dominant player, so they. 808 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: Let him go. 809 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 2: What was what were the last few years for Tremaine 810 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 2: like in Chicago? 811 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say it was up and down. 812 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 6: I would say his first year, you know, he made 813 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 6: a ton of plays, but then he didn't make a 814 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 6: lot of plays, missed some tackles. I know that was 815 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 6: an area of concern last year as well, missed some 816 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 6: games due to injury, but also made a lot of plays. 817 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 6: So I think it's up and down, and I think 818 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 6: with the Bears they're looking at, you know, that cap 819 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 6: number as well and the productivity that they can get 820 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 6: or possibly bringing somebody else that's cheaper, or you have 821 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 6: a coaching staff that did a really good job of 822 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 6: developing players. And you know, this year, I think the 823 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 6: Bears success was really predicated on next man up. So 824 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 6: there was a lot of times that in particularly these 825 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 6: linebackers are out of the lineup, Terraine, you know, Treine 826 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 6: Edmonds himself was out of the lineup, and you're bringing 827 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 6: a guy like DeMarco Jackson comes in and has a 828 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 6: double digit tackle game, and that. 829 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 4: Goes for a lot of the positions on this Bears team. 830 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 6: Guys stepped up because the coaching staff did a good 831 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,760 Speaker 6: job of making sure that they were developed and prepared 832 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 6: to seize that opportunity when it presented itself. 833 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 4: So I think that's what the Bears are looking at. 834 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 6: They're looking at, Hey, his availability, his productivity weighed against 835 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 6: how much we're paying him and how much cap space 836 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 6: we can free up. So I think, you know, he 837 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 6: might be the next guy that could be on the 838 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,359 Speaker 6: trade block. 839 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: Jason McKee side on, a reporter for the Bears on 840 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: their game day, Brood, thanks for joining us. Really appreciate you. 841 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 4: Now, thank you guys. You have a good day. I 842 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 4: appreciate it. 843 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a break, Steve Tasker, Josh. 844 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: We will come back to discuss the DJ Moore trade 845 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills and more. Right after this, we're 846 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: presented by Clydehealth and you're listening to One Bill's Live. 847 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: It wasn't back to One Bills Live. We're still chopping 848 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 1: up this DJ Moore trade from Chicago Bears. The Bills 849 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: give up the number sixty overall pick for a receiver 850 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: that's an eight year veteran has averaged over a thousand 851 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,359 Speaker 1: yards over the last three seasons, including a down year 852 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: this last year, which gives a lot. I think that's 853 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: most of where the hot doubt comes from. He's about 854 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: to be twenty nine, and people are like going, I 855 00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe he's on the bad end of it. 856 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: This from Dean on the tweet sheet. He says, good pickup, 857 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: renegotiate the contract. Now get Darnell Mooney better than fighting 858 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: a bidding war to get him. So he's got a 859 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: player he wants Darnell Mooney. 860 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 3: He's got another one. 861 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: There you go. Already locked and loaded. I get it 862 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: another one from David. He says, I'll take it. I'm 863 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: a little concerned with his numbers drop off last year, 864 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: That's what I mentioned, and some concerning play in a 865 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: playoff game, but he's an upgrade. This also gives them 866 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: flexibility in the first two rounds of the draft, well 867 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: first round of the draft, a wide receiver could still happen, 868 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: but they can focus on defense as well. How this 869 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: changes their philosophy, Well, this is kind of we're in 870 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: the midst of what they're trying to do. They always 871 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: tell them tell us they're trying to do, and we've 872 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: talked about it on the show. They're trying to get 873 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: to a point where they can take whatever player's best 874 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: at the twenty sixth spot, or until they traded the 875 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: sixtieth spot, the sixtieth spot, and now not only that spot, 876 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: but the one sixty fourth spot, in the sixty seventh 877 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: spot and all that. They're trying to get to a 878 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: spot where they can take the best player on the 879 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 1: board out of the college draft. 880 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 3: I like this tweet because I think part of that 881 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 3: that really sticks out. 882 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 2: To me is this is a upgrade. This is an upgrade, 883 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 2: and it is an upgrade. It is a significant upgrade. 884 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: Like it just is how big the upgrade is we'll see, 885 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: but you'll see. But it's at face value, it's a 886 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:27,720 Speaker 1: big upgrade. This is an older version of Steph Diggs 887 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: without the drama. 888 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 2: By the way, Darrnton Evans, the former Bill's running back, 889 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 2: he just put out on Twitter in case if you're 890 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 2: wondering what kind of guy and fit he'll be in 891 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 2: the locker room, Evans just tweeted out DJ was my 892 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 2: locker mate in Chicago. Will be a great addition to 893 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 2: the Buffalo locker room and community. Is personality fits right 894 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,439 Speaker 2: in with Buffalo. Excited to see this one play out. 895 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: Let's go so yeah, And this from Clutch Gray the 896 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: DJ Moore trade as well. A lot of people upset 897 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: over the number two draft pick, this sixtieth overall that 898 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,439 Speaker 1: being historically misses on. It'll be super excited next season 899 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: when more goes over on. Thy has twelve tds and 900 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,319 Speaker 1: that fifth round pick turns into the next starting middle linebacker. Yeah, 901 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: that would all be great. 902 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 3: Good for you, Clutch, good stuff is right, that's so good. 903 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you have people out there pounding the table 904 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 2: for any sort of move at a wide receiver edition 905 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,840 Speaker 2: and then it happens, and then the switch gets flipped 906 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 2: to you gave up what you're paying him, what you 907 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 2: did what, And it's like, that's the reality of it. 908 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 2: I mean he, I mean, he's he's your number one 909 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 2: wide receiver. You need a number one wide receiver. He 910 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 2: is the number one wide receiver. 911 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 1: He'll, he'll Khalil Shakir will be greatly helped by this. 912 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: Kincaid will be helped by this. 913 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 2: At twenty six, you were not getting this talent immediately, Like, look, 914 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 2: you might have gotten somebody at twenty six that would 915 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 2: have been this two years down the road, three years 916 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 2: down the road. DJ Moore walks in and is the 917 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 2: top target. 918 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: And when he came in. When he came in, he 919 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: was a twenty fourth pick and that was a twenty 920 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: eighteen draft, same draft as Josh and has been productive. 921 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: He think about this. Two different teams gave him a 922 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 1: second contract, Two different teams wanted that guy to stick around. 923 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: Carolina signed him to an extension, and then they wanted 924 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: to trade up with Chicago and they wanted a quarter 925 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: they wanted they wanted to get a quarterback. It was 926 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 1: the Bryce Young Draft twenty twenty three, and Chicago said, yeah, 927 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 1: but we'll take we want DJ Moore, And they did it, 928 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 1: and Chicago traded for DJ Moore exactly like the Bills 929 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: are four years ago or three years ago, same big con. 930 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: He had a big contract then. Yeah, he had signed 931 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: a second contract in Chicago said give give him us, Yeah, 932 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: give him to us, and they did to get the 933 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,760 Speaker 1: number one overall pick, Carolina, let him go. The Bills 934 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: are doing the exact same thing for the guy. Uh, 935 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: let us have him. We'll take him in the contract. 936 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: We think he's that good. Says a lot about DJ Moore. 937 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: We'll see. It's it's a little bit to live up to, right, 938 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: Sure of course it is. I we'll see. 939 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 3: It helps when you have Josh Allen as your quarterback. 940 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's you know, some of these you can't 941 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: please everybody, and nobody ever wants so there are some 942 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 1: people who don't want to be pleased. But yeah, this 943 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,240 Speaker 1: is uh, this is a move. A lot of people 944 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: have been pounding the table for you can you can 945 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: insert a different name here, your favorite team, your favorite player, 946 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: a different name. It's been reported as well that the 947 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: Bills were also inquiring and Alex Pierce and some others, 948 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 1: AJ Brown and Alec Pierce. So Alex Pierce a free agent. 949 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 1: AJ Brown was a trade partner with Philly, and this 950 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: is the guy they they landed on. AJ Brown's reputation 951 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: is different than DJ Moore's and. 952 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 2: Walter Payton and the Walterton Man of the Year versus 953 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 2: a guy who's reading a book in the middle of 954 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:06,720 Speaker 2: the game on the on the bench. 955 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,239 Speaker 1: So they made their call here and here they sit. 956 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: DJ Moore now going to be a Buffalo Bill. This 957 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: is really interesting how this came down. We've seen it. 958 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 1: I thought they would get cap compliant before that they 959 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: traded for anybody like that, but they're not. So they're 960 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: going to do it later. 961 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 2: You can, I mean, I guess is the thought is 962 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 2: if if you were a little you know, concerned that 963 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 2: you'd lose them to another team, you know, you pull 964 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,879 Speaker 2: that trigger now because you know the idea that well, 965 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 2: if they're shot, Because let's face it, the Bears weren't 966 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 2: just shopping him to the Bills, right. 967 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 3: I mean, he was available to thirty one other teams. 968 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,320 Speaker 3: I'm sure of that. So then if you're the Bills, 969 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 3: and you're going, well, if we don't act now, DJ 970 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 3: Moore could end up in New England, right with a 971 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 3: team that's got a ton of cap space and a 972 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 3: team that all of a sudden it doesn't have stuff 973 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,840 Speaker 3: on digs anymore, in a team that could be in 974 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 3: the market for a wide receiver. And you know, imagine 975 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 3: that played out that way. 976 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,720 Speaker 2: You find out that the Bills waited a little too long. 977 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 2: DJ Moore ends up in New England and the same 978 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 2: fans that are going. 979 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 3: You gave up what would have been going? Why didn't 980 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:19,839 Speaker 3: you give up? 981 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:25,359 Speaker 1: Why not? Yeah, that's just that's the way it goes. 982 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 1: That's the nature of the business. And everybody's got their favorites. 983 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: And some people will love this and some people will 984 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: hate it. Some people will stay silent until they see 985 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: how it's going to turn out, and then they will 986 00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: confirm that that's exactly the way they thought it was 987 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,879 Speaker 1: gonna go, which is. 988 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 2: What I do and listen, listen, And that's fair to 989 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 2: do to not have some scorch earth take one way 990 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 2: or the other, and to be able to like, hey, 991 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stand here in the middle of the ground 992 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,520 Speaker 2: and just watch how plays I thought it was interesting 993 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 2: we had the Bills or Bear sideline guy on there 994 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 2: just in the last block. We asked him about age 995 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 2: and if you thought it was concern he was like 996 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 2: absolutely not. 997 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not. Yeah. The Bears, which is the guy, 998 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: thought that that DJ Moore's got a lot of gas 999 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 1: in the tank. He says, really can play and he 1000 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,800 Speaker 1: is a tough guy. See he's available. He did play 1001 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 1: injured at points during his career, but uh, the guy 1002 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 1: is always available. And that's big, particularly given the you know, 1003 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 1: the fiasco with injuries the Bills had last year, so 1004 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,279 Speaker 1: with their receiving room no less, so that that was 1005 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 1: kind of good to hear. We're gonna take a break, uh, 1006 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: and when we come back and during the two o'clock hour, 1007 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna have Bruce Feldman on. He's a college football 1008 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: writer for the Athletic and he has he puts out 1009 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: the guy. This is the guy and some of you 1010 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 1: will remember this. This is the guy that puts out 1011 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: the freaks list. The guys that he thinks going into 1012 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,840 Speaker 1: the combine are gonna like absolutely eye pop with their testing, 1013 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: their their speed, their strength, their vertical all of that stuff. 1014 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,879 Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman. Coming up after the break, Steve Tasker Josh 1015 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: Reid here with you on One Bill's Live presented by Clydahealth. 1016 00:49:51,560 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: Stay with us this One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health. 1017 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back to One of Bill's Lives. To Tasking Josh 1018 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: me Philman for Brownie. This week, lots going on. The 1019 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: Bill's traded for DJ Moore, wide receiver from the Chicago Bears. 1020 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: Eight year veteran. It's been a productive player in both Carolina, 1021 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: where he began his career and in the Chicago. He 1022 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 1: has gotten a thousand yards for both those teams. Two 1023 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: years ago in twenty twenty three, had thirteen hundred yards 1024 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: for the Chicago Bears. This last year he only had 1025 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: fifty catches. Were in the two years before that he 1026 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: had ninety three catches and ninety eight catches. So he's 1027 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: been productive recently, although this last year was a down year, 1028 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 1: no question about it. We had the sideline reporter for 1029 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears and the radio broadcast, Jason McKee on 1030 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: with us in the last segment and he said, now, 1031 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 1: a lot of it was because of the new young 1032 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 1: players they got on the roster who were emerging and 1033 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 1: of course with Ben Johnson new head coach, they were 1034 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,319 Speaker 1: spreading the football around. But he said he had nothing 1035 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: but love and respect for Dj Moore and thought he 1036 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: has a lot of good football left in him. 1037 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:50,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1038 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:51,200 Speaker 1: Good to hear. 1039 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, it's great to hear, because I think that's 1040 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 2: when you pull up his stats and look at you know, 1041 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 2: kind of the way he's produced. 1042 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:00,799 Speaker 3: It's pretty top end heavy. 1043 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 2: You know, you start to see the last two years 1044 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 2: and you go, oh, there's a little dip there is 1045 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 2: that are concerned, but you know it sounds like it. 1046 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 3: It shouldn't be. 1047 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 2: You know, well, according to a guy who's on their 1048 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 2: sideline every game, I mean, he's like, look it. 1049 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 1: If if you thought last year was a dip for 1050 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 1: DJ Moore, he would have been the leading receiver on 1051 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,320 Speaker 1: the Bills by a long shot. 1052 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 3: And well, there you go. If it's an upgrade just 1053 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:26,680 Speaker 3: last year, but. 1054 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 1: Two years ago he would have Two years ago, he 1055 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: would have this last year, he would have been number 1056 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: two behind Khalil Shakir with the numbers he put up 1057 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,800 Speaker 1: last year in Chicago. Two years ago, he would have 1058 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: been the best guy on the field for them, for 1059 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 1: the Bills, and he will be this year. Uh, be 1060 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 1: pretty cool. I think he's going to be a big 1061 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,879 Speaker 1: banking on him, Yeah, I think. Yeah. They're guaranteeing him 1062 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: a lot of money. Yep. Uh, they are committing to 1063 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 1: him for the next two or three years at least, 1064 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 1: and his track record is one that he's the kind 1065 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 1: of human being you don't feel too bad, too much 1066 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: of a risk giving. It's you're gonna get everything he's got, 1067 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be a plus in every situation, not 1068 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: a minus. You're not gonna have guys in the huddle 1069 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,840 Speaker 1: rolling their eyes at this guy. He's gonna be a 1070 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 1: huge plus cultural wise, in the locker room wise, and 1071 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: of course most importantly, should be on the field as well. 1072 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 1: So that's why you do what the Bills did today. 1073 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 1: You give up the twenty sixth overall pick. 1074 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 3: Well sixty, they give him sixtieth. 1075 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 1: They give up the sixtieth over sixty, not the twenty sixth. 1076 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 1: They gave the sixtieth overall pick for him, got a 1077 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: fifth back and really the big commitment for the Bills. 1078 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 1: The draft picks are what they are. It's hard to 1079 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: get excited about people. You never know what's it going 1080 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: to be sure, but it's the money. The money and 1081 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,320 Speaker 1: the guarantees that are the real risk for the Bills 1082 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 1: salary caps. That's what you're risking. The draft picks are 1083 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,359 Speaker 1: what they are. And I'm not an La ram here. 1084 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm not saying forget those picks. I'm just saying, you 1085 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 1: don't know what those guys are gonna be in the 1086 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: commun you know, and they could be great. This is 1087 00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 1: prett easy to say goodbye to say is this is 1088 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 1: a guy that he's got a track record, so the 1089 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: Bills have I'm I'm very much okay with this. I'm 1090 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 1: really I'm okay with it, particularly given the kind of 1091 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 1: guy he is and the fact that we've you know, 1092 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 1: got first hand testimony of the fact that the guy 1093 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,440 Speaker 1: shows up every man. You look at his game. He 1094 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 1: hasn't missed a game in five years. Uh and even 1095 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 1: before that, he missed two games in his entire career. 1096 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 1: That's wild. 1097 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,840 Speaker 2: It's really So they sit there, they have the twenty 1098 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 2: sixth overall pick still, then they have they gave up 1099 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,760 Speaker 2: the second rounder, they have a third rounder, a fourth rounder, 1100 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 2: the Bear's fifth rounder now and the sixth, then a seventh. 1101 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,719 Speaker 3: So yeah, one, two, three, four or five they have 1102 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 3: six picks now. 1103 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,840 Speaker 1: Seven seven pack. Uh no, I'm sorry, I've got the 1104 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 1: wrong team up. 1105 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 3: You're right, I think they have six, right, they got 1106 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:56,760 Speaker 3: six picks, six picks. 1107 00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 1: Now they've got twenty six ninety one. They got seven 1108 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,919 Speaker 1: twenty six, ninety one, one twenty six, one sixty four, 1109 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: one sixty seven to nineteen from the Jets and two 1110 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,280 Speaker 1: twenty seven from Dallas. 1111 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 3: That's I was missing that. 1112 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got to twenty seven from Dallas. So they 1113 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: got seven picks still two fifth rounders, no sixth so 1114 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 1: and no second that's uh yeah, it's a risk financially. 1115 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 3: It's not my money. 1116 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly what I was gonna say. That's it's not 1117 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 1: my name. I checked. 1118 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 3: Those zeros. 1119 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:43,000 Speaker 1: It's disappointing when you see it. But yeah, I'm I'm 1120 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: good you're warming up to it. I can tell you're 1121 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,720 Speaker 1: getting there. I like what I hear about the guy. Yeah, 1122 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 1: one of the things that happened over the years. He's 1123 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,400 Speaker 1: and this with it, and Bruce Feldman's coming on from 1124 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: uh the athletic in a in in this hour, in 1125 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. He's coming on and he's going 1126 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,000 Speaker 1: to talk to us about his Freaks List, which is 1127 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,800 Speaker 1: these college kids who are these freakish athletes and stuff, 1128 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: and talk about the draft this year and the college 1129 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: team's coming college player's coming out. And it always gets 1130 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 1: me when they get an insight into the players behind 1131 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:18,760 Speaker 1: the scenes and they do these interviews, and this resonates 1132 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 1: with me. And I don't want to go off on 1133 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 1: a tangent here, but one of the questions I heard 1134 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,000 Speaker 1: somebody ask one of these young guys coming out. They're 1135 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,280 Speaker 1: sitting in this room with all these executives and coaches 1136 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,839 Speaker 1: and stuff sitting around, and they go, Okay, what's your 1137 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: least favorite thing about football? And some of them don't 1138 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 1: have a it's off the walk. But nobody knows, right, 1139 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean, nobody can see that question sure, And it 1140 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 1: took the kid back and you didn't know what to 1141 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 1: answer and stuff. And I was sitting there putting myself 1142 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, I was a former player. I was put 1143 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,840 Speaker 1: myself in there, and it was a tough question for me. 1144 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 1: What do you hate about football? Well, you don't like 1145 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,399 Speaker 1: about football? What's your least favorite thing? And I sid 1146 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:54,759 Speaker 1: it for a minute and then it came to me, 1147 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 1: you know what I hate most, and to this day, 1148 00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 1: I still do and fans will know that. You know 1149 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 1: what I hate about football, Josh, bad teammates. Yeah, I mean, 1150 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 1: it's bad mamates. That's what you hate about the game. 1151 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 1: Everything else is great. It's bad teammates. 1152 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,040 Speaker 2: And everybody everyone can relate to that, right If you 1153 00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:18,439 Speaker 2: have a coworker that you just don't like, it makes 1154 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 2: going into work a drag for everybody, everybody, And it's 1155 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 2: so yeah, I hate about points. 1156 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 1: So you get a guy like this and you're gonna 1157 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,919 Speaker 1: risk all this money and this commitment in three years. 1158 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,440 Speaker 1: The guy's got guarantees for a couple of years and 1159 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 1: he's been good. So if you knew you were gonna 1160 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 1: get what you have gotten from him in the future, 1161 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, okay, But what you don't want is 1162 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 1: you know a guy with the reputation of Steph Diggs 1163 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 1: or AJ Brown or Xavier Worthy. You know, the guy 1164 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 1: racing down this freeway in Dallas injuring people. You know, 1165 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 1: spare me those, spare me that drama. But if you 1166 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 1: give me a guy who's the Walter Payton Man of 1167 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 1: the Year for the Chicago Go Bears, the team that 1168 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 1: Walter Payton played for, Yeah, that's that's not as much 1169 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 1: of a risk for me. At least, you know, the 1170 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,280 Speaker 1: guy's gonna show up. Yeah it sticks, he's not gonna 1171 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 1: he's not gonna oversleep. Yeah that's And maybe maybe those 1172 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 1: kids who don't know how, maybe a guy in your 1173 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 1: roster who doesn't know exactly how to do it, maybe 1174 00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 1: he says, Okay, now I see how it's done. Maybe 1175 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,520 Speaker 1: it does help. I don't know. 1176 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 3: Maybe there's a leadership aspect. 1177 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 1: But man's much easier for me to get my mind 1178 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 1: around this trade when I know all that stuff about 1179 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 1: DJ Moore than an otherwise would have been then than 1180 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: it would have been had they traded for a J. Brown. 1181 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 1: You know all of those guys, and you can go 1182 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 1: like you know Antonio Brown from years ago, you know, 1183 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean. 1184 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,600 Speaker 2: I mean you talk about talent, think about you talk 1185 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 2: about TI. I mean he was there was a chunk 1186 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,959 Speaker 2: of six seven years where he was as talented as 1187 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 2: any wide receiver in the NFL. 1188 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 3: But he was also he was off the lusiest cannon. 1189 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,440 Speaker 3: He's off his rocket of anybody. And we saw it 1190 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 3: when he left the game. Yeah, without his pads or 1191 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 3: shirt on, just walked off the field. It wasn't just walked, 1192 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 3: he kind of danced off the field. That's what you're 1193 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 3: looking at. That's the spectrum. 1194 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 1: And when you get a guy that's on the end 1195 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 1: of the spectrum where DJ Moore seems to be, it's 1196 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 1: a little easier to commit knowing his track record of 1197 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 1: giving everything he's got, playing hurt, being there, showing up 1198 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: and being productive. 1199 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, I like the trickle down effect that he's 1200 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,720 Speaker 3: gonna have just on the field too. I mean, look, 1201 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 3: Khalil Shakier gets better now, gets better now. 1202 00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,080 Speaker 2: These guys all get better now because there's a DJ 1203 00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,479 Speaker 2: Moore on the field with them. 1204 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 3: And I think, guess what, Josh Allen. 1205 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 1: Here's what it does. It gives your offense one more 1206 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 1: facet that's way better than it has been. It's a 1207 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 1: little bit you can explore that part of the field. 1208 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 1: You can explore that part of your offense. You can 1209 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 1: give yourself an extra choice on certain play concepts because 1210 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,439 Speaker 1: you do have a guy out there. That's what it does. 1211 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 1: It the offense. The scope of the offense broadens now 1212 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,200 Speaker 1: and you can be and let's face it, this, this 1213 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 1: offense has been excellent. 1214 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a least Josh and issue. 1215 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 1: Right, it's been that way because of Josh, because of Khalil, secure, 1216 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 1: because it kink, because of James Cook. 1217 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 3: Because of stuff on going back. 1218 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, great, yeah, and Joe calling the plays. It's been 1219 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 1: really really good. Now it can be really really good 1220 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 1: even more in even more ways. Yeah, it it spells 1221 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 1: good things, you know, And obviously you envision this when 1222 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 1: everybody's a you know, one hundred percent healthy, one hundred 1223 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,840 Speaker 1: percent available all the time. It may not be all 1224 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 1: that time, but that's that's where you sit, and that's 1225 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:52,200 Speaker 1: that's why I'm I'm yeah that that changes the equation 1226 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 1: now at the office. That's our That's the first domino 1227 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: that that dropped right there. 1228 01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:58,520 Speaker 3: We got Bruce on the line. 1229 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 1: You're ready for him, all right, Bruce Feldman. Let's bring 1230 01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman in. He's the athlete. He's a college football 1231 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,760 Speaker 1: writer for the Athletic Bruce, thanks for spending some time 1232 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 1: with us. You're with Steve Tasker Josh Reed, sports director 1233 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 1: here at Channel four in Buffalo. We appreciate you coming on. 1234 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,040 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about first. Thanks for 1235 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: coming on. Just going to ask you a couple of 1236 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 1: general things. Give us your take about the combine this 1237 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:25,439 Speaker 1: last week surprises not maybe not surprises, but what's what's 1238 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,280 Speaker 1: your take on this entire class and the personality of 1239 01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:29,680 Speaker 1: what we're going to look at in this draft. 1240 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me. 1241 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 4: Guys. 1242 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 5: First, I'll say this, I don't think this is a 1243 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 5: great draft. You know, obviously Mendoz is going to be 1244 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 5: the first pick in the HAF. It's obviously it's not 1245 01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,440 Speaker 5: a star driven draft. Right, It's not a deep quarterback class. 1246 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 5: Jeremiah of is a terrific running back. After that, I 1247 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:53,200 Speaker 5: feel like it's pretty thin running back. But having said that, 1248 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 5: this was probably the fastest group we've seen because all 1249 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 5: the fast guys and I do the Freaks List every year. 1250 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,400 Speaker 5: All those guys not only lived up to the hype, 1251 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 5: they exceeded it. The other part of it was some 1252 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 5: of the guys who probably didn't expect to run very well, 1253 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 5: like Jonah Coleman, for instance, is a really good running 1254 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,200 Speaker 5: back at Washington, short yardage guy. I don't know if 1255 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 5: he's a high four to six guy. Even he was 1256 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,160 Speaker 5: not expected to run. He didn't run. I'm not sure 1257 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 5: if he'll ever run. He'll be a good he'll be 1258 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 5: a good NFL running back though for the right team, 1259 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 5: and so I think a lot of guys who weren't expected, 1260 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 5: who weren't expecting to tear it up, they didn't, so 1261 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 5: that you only boosted the average up. And I think 1262 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 5: you saw it was crazy to me that you would 1263 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:40,360 Speaker 5: have six safeties run four four zero or faster in 1264 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 5: the forty safeties, not corners. I mean, there were so 1265 01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 5: many DB's, so many receivers who ran so fast, and 1266 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:52,560 Speaker 5: obviously a couple of undersized tight ends. Eli Stowers from Bandy, 1267 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 5: the guy vertical jumped forty five and a half inches. 1268 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 5: Kenyan Sadig from Oregon, who's a little bigger, you know, 1269 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 5: three nine forty jumped well over jumped I think, you know, 1270 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 5: forty two inches or whatever. I mean, these are super 1271 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 5: explosive guys, but they're not like the gronk sized tight 1272 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,280 Speaker 5: end or the traditional big inline blocker. I think they're 1273 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 5: guys who teams are gonna are going to be interested 1274 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,200 Speaker 5: to say, hey, what can we do with him, you know, 1275 01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 5: formationally as probably our second tight end or as a 1276 01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 5: jumbo receiver, because I think there's just a lot of 1277 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,160 Speaker 5: big time athletes in this group. 1278 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:32,920 Speaker 2: Bruce the is there a family faster than the Styles family? 1279 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 3: I mean the numbers they put up. You're talking about speed. 1280 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 2: I mean, holy, Sonny runs of the linebacker runs a 1281 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 2: four four six and he's slow because Lorenzo you talked 1282 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 2: about the speed and safety. Lorenzo what he runs like 1283 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,080 Speaker 2: a four to two just a shade under forty. 1284 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 5: S for seven? Yeah. Crazy. The dad played in the NFL, 1285 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,000 Speaker 5: you know, Sunny Styles with high up on our freaks 1286 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,439 Speaker 5: because he's not just a linebacker. He's a six five, 1287 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 5: two hundred and forty four pounds linebacker. This isn't like 1288 01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,240 Speaker 5: you know, Kyle Lewis is a really good player at Pitt. 1289 01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,439 Speaker 5: He's like five eleven and a half to twenty one 1290 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,600 Speaker 5: or something. He's ran really good. This guy is much 1291 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,960 Speaker 5: bigger and you would. I remember talking to him and 1292 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,280 Speaker 5: he's like, yeah, my dad was doing stuff with us 1293 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 5: in terms of like agility and speed training. We we're 1294 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 5: like five and six years old. It paid off. So 1295 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,080 Speaker 5: now they had the genetics, they had a lot of 1296 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 5: work to build up and he's a he's a really 1297 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 5: good football player. Sonny Styles. I mean he was a 1298 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 5: little overshadowed because he had Caleb Downs who's the best 1299 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,439 Speaker 5: safety in this draft. And he had RVL Reese, who's 1300 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,920 Speaker 5: a linebacker, the off ball linebacker Slash Edge, who is 1301 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,480 Speaker 5: you know, pretty much as fast, a touch, bigger, and 1302 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 5: definitely more of a physical, more violent player. He probably 1303 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,840 Speaker 5: didn't jump quite as well, but also another elite athlete 1304 01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 5: who really was a breakout player last year from at 1305 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 5: Patricia's defense at Ohio State. 1306 01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:06,400 Speaker 1: So we had this and obviously it was a fast 1307 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 1: combine and some of it was obviously because a lot 1308 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 1: of guys slow guys didn't run, I mean, why run, right, 1309 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 1: So some of that was pushed that way. But there 1310 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 1: is some rumblings, and you know, it affects me and 1311 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 1: Josh because we all go down to the combine, right 1312 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,040 Speaker 1: every year. Is the combine changing? And if you and 1313 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 1: some people are predicting that it may not take place 1314 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 1: in the same form for much longer because of the 1315 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 1: player the nil The players are known commodities. None of 1316 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 1: them want to damage their their draft status. Do you 1317 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 1: think that combine might change or even go away? 1318 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,760 Speaker 5: I hope not, because I still think there's a lot 1319 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,560 Speaker 5: of things you can get out of it. You know, 1320 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:53,440 Speaker 5: I from a networking thing, it's great for people like us. 1321 01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,920 Speaker 5: From another standpoint, I do think there's something to be 1322 01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 5: said for what, you know, the medical piece that they 1323 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,160 Speaker 5: can do and some of the information they can glean 1324 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 5: from that sort of thing. I also think there's something 1325 01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,959 Speaker 5: to be said for seeing how guys respond to being 1326 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,760 Speaker 5: on that stage around other elite athletes who are who 1327 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,280 Speaker 5: are under this microscope. You know, we've seen plenty of 1328 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,880 Speaker 5: guys who had great weeks in Indie who fizzled out 1329 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 5: in the NFL. Right, it's only a small portion of 1330 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 5: what makes football players special. Right, I think you can't 1331 01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,080 Speaker 5: tell too much. They're not in pads, right, it's a 1332 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 5: physical thing. I mean, I feel like we've seen so 1333 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 5: many instances obviously, like you know, Tom Brady, there's this 1334 01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 5: famous photo of him from whatever it is twenty five 1335 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 5: years ago at the Combine where like Tom Brady's like 1336 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,280 Speaker 5: the supermodel guy now, but found they took like the 1337 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 5: most awkward picture of him in that snapshot or whatever. 1338 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,120 Speaker 5: And I feel like something it's like a baseline for 1339 01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 5: people to look at. But obviously now there's way more 1340 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,680 Speaker 5: metrics and different things where look at you know, at 1341 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 5: the forty times where you have all these GPS tracking 1342 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 5: data of guys in pads on the field to see 1343 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 5: what they they've done, which you get in the combine. 1344 01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:17,040 Speaker 5: And I think it's fascinating, is like there's so many 1345 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 5: whether it's the five ten five shuttle or these other 1346 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 5: you know, other el drills and different things where people 1347 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 5: are training for that for for you know, two months before, 1348 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,240 Speaker 5: and you can see a big impact on it, you know, 1349 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 5: and it doesn't take away from what they're doing, but 1350 01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 5: I do think there's something to be said for that. 1351 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,040 Speaker 5: I remember having this receivers coach I talked to said, 1352 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 5: you know, I got an argument with on our scouts 1353 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:48,000 Speaker 5: because I see on film what this receiver is that 1354 01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 5: we took like in the middle rounds and it was 1355 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 5: like they are they're looking at his his five ten 1356 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,800 Speaker 5: five and some of the shuttle numbers, and I'm like, 1357 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 5: that's not what I see on the field. And yet 1358 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 5: because he was like, I know, guys can train for that, 1359 01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 5: and and so it's like, I guess beauty's in the 1360 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 5: EyeT of be holder. I mean, selfishly, I really like 1361 01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,680 Speaker 5: the combine. I think it's a you know, for all 1362 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 5: sorts of reasons, but I hope it doesn't go away. 1363 01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 5: But I've heard rumblings of that for a while. I 1364 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 5: believe it when I see them. 1365 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 3: You mentioned the Tom Brady picture. 1366 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,679 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure there's a Bills quarterback named Josh Allen 1367 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,599 Speaker 2: that would not be just devastated if that forty video 1368 01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:30,599 Speaker 2: is just lost forever and goes away and never has 1369 01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,639 Speaker 2: never seen ever again. 1370 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:36,680 Speaker 3: But when you when you, you. 1371 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,880 Speaker 2: Know, obviously the Bills make the big trade for DJ 1372 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,880 Speaker 2: Moore today. I have this list of wide receivers I 1373 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 2: was going to ask you about, but now it sure 1374 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,840 Speaker 2: seems like they may trend away from that with their 1375 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 2: twenty six overall pick. 1376 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,080 Speaker 3: Who knows, but are there some are there? 1377 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 2: Is there a quality depth at the wide receiver spot 1378 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,639 Speaker 2: that when you look at round three, round four, round five, 1379 01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 2: that maybe could fill a need still for the Bills. 1380 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:04,479 Speaker 5: I think so. I think it's deeper than elite. To 1381 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 5: put it this way. You know, there's three guys I 1382 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 5: think a lot of people look at at the top. 1383 01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,880 Speaker 5: Carnell Tate from Ohio State. I think, you know, he's 1384 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 5: got good size, not great size, he's not super fast, 1385 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,800 Speaker 5: he obviously didn't run that fast, and indie, but he's 1386 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,280 Speaker 5: a really good football player Makaia Lemon who won the 1387 01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:24,040 Speaker 5: bullet Nikoff Award. He is compared to Amon Ra in 1388 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,000 Speaker 5: part because of the USC thing, but he's a really 1389 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,840 Speaker 5: physical receiver and really good in the slot and really 1390 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,120 Speaker 5: good with the ball in his hands. And Jordan Tyson 1391 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,360 Speaker 5: at Arizona State who's very talented too. But I think 1392 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,240 Speaker 5: once you get past that, there's a bunch of receivers 1393 01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:44,640 Speaker 5: who are really dynamic athletes played in different kinds of systems. 1394 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 5: I think there's going to be a handful of that 1395 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:50,080 Speaker 5: we will find out in the NFL two years from now. 1396 01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:54,639 Speaker 5: Who are really productive third and fourth round guys who 1397 01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 5: lit up the combine. And there's a guy who o 1398 01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,439 Speaker 5: Haud on my freaks list. Last summer, Ted Hurst, a 1399 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:03,920 Speaker 5: small school guy at Georgia State, did really well at 1400 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,400 Speaker 5: the Senior Bowl. Tested exceptionally well. He's big, He's six 1401 01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,680 Speaker 5: y threes like two hundred five pounds. He's a dynamic 1402 01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,680 Speaker 5: athlete and I don't know how far he slides. And 1403 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 5: when I say slides, it's not because anything negative. I 1404 01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,679 Speaker 5: just think, you know, because the Georgia State, I think 1405 01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:23,439 Speaker 5: that you know, does he get in the second round 1406 01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:27,000 Speaker 5: if he played at Georgia Tech instead at Georgia State 1407 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:30,120 Speaker 5: or played in the SEC where he absolutely could have. 1408 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,320 Speaker 5: I think he probably is a guy we're talking about 1409 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,360 Speaker 5: in the first round because of his measurables. He's a 1410 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:40,040 Speaker 5: really good football player, right, and so I'm excited to 1411 01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 5: see what Dj does it in Buffalo at Josh Allen, right, 1412 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,160 Speaker 5: you know, because he's really talented and I know guys 1413 01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,400 Speaker 5: who coached him, you know, receivers coaches there think really 1414 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:53,439 Speaker 5: highly of him. And so you now you're going with, 1415 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,160 Speaker 5: you know, arguably the most talented quarterback in the NFL, 1416 01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,599 Speaker 5: and they're not far away from from being a super 1417 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,960 Speaker 5: Bowl team. So I'm fascinated to see how they, you know, 1418 01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,439 Speaker 5: how this how the pieces kind of come together, because 1419 01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,599 Speaker 5: he's he's a big time playmaker, and you know, I mean, 1420 01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,560 Speaker 5: he's further along than anybody they could have drafted this 1421 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:12,240 Speaker 5: year for sure. 1422 01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,479 Speaker 1: So the Bills traded for DJ Moore from the Chicago 1423 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,120 Speaker 1: Bears today, So kind of that moves wide receiver at 1424 01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,559 Speaker 1: number twenty six in this draft kind of off the 1425 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 1: front burner for the Buffalo Bills, at least in our mind. 1426 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 1: So now I think the one thing that would come 1427 01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,280 Speaker 1: now the pan that's in the front burner now would 1428 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,639 Speaker 1: probably be edge rusher. And this has been a draft 1429 01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,920 Speaker 1: where they said, yeah, there's some guys out there that 1430 01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,120 Speaker 1: can come off. It's a deep draft for safeties. It's 1431 01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 1: a drift draft for linebackers and edge rushers as well. 1432 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 1: So the Bills are twenty six. A couple of questions, 1433 01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 1: This is a kind of multi part question, right, how 1434 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,760 Speaker 1: many edge guys go in the first round and what 1435 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,719 Speaker 1: kind of edge rusher can you get at the bottom 1436 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:57,920 Speaker 1: of that round? Right, it's what are your thoughts on that? 1437 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm sheting now because I'm looking at 1438 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,000 Speaker 5: your list that you have to the left side of 1439 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,919 Speaker 5: my face where it's like Ruben Bain, you know, dominant 1440 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 5: player at Miami. He's gonna be gone. R bel Reese 1441 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,760 Speaker 5: will be gone in the first five picks. David Belly 1442 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:14,559 Speaker 5: should be gone in the first five as well. After that, TJ. 1443 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,559 Speaker 5: Parker from Clemson should still be there. Akeem Mezzador from Miami, 1444 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:22,040 Speaker 5: the other edge rusher is a really good player, dynamic athlete. 1445 01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:24,519 Speaker 5: He's from Canada, started his career at West Virginia. I 1446 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:29,160 Speaker 5: think he's a really good player. To me, Mezzador is 1447 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:33,000 Speaker 5: gonna go. I feel like in that range, right, Casius 1448 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:37,000 Speaker 5: Howel from Texas A and M is pretty twitchy. He's 1449 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 5: he's not as good as David Belly, but he's in 1450 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 5: that mold of a guy who's not supersized. But I 1451 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,320 Speaker 5: think is is you know, smaller than Mesador. But it 1452 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,400 Speaker 5: was a really good player at A and M. I 1453 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:51,639 Speaker 5: could see him in that range, you know, from there, 1454 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 5: you know, I think this is yeah, this is him now, 1455 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,360 Speaker 5: like Mike Elko, there has had a lot of really 1456 01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,559 Speaker 5: good D lineman in a short amount of time. There 1457 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 5: was a guy you had up there who's different, and 1458 01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,880 Speaker 5: that's Keldric Fok from Auburn. Keldrick Falk's a much bigger guy. 1459 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:09,679 Speaker 5: He's younger, he's six six plus two hundred and seventy 1460 01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,920 Speaker 5: plus pounds. He's really strong. He did not have a 1461 01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,080 Speaker 5: great year last year for Auburn because nobody did. The 1462 01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,000 Speaker 5: program was kind of spin its wheels with Hugh Freeze 1463 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,400 Speaker 5: about to get fired. You know, people really liked him. 1464 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,680 Speaker 5: The guys I talked to the D line coaches think 1465 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,360 Speaker 5: there's a lot of potentially He's really strong. I think 1466 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:30,400 Speaker 5: he vertical jumped thirty five inches but didn't do a 1467 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:34,600 Speaker 5: lot of the other testing. He's one that will be 1468 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,519 Speaker 5: very interesting to see because I think that's a guy 1469 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,679 Speaker 5: a lot of coaches root for. And there's all it's 1470 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,360 Speaker 5: what kind of system does he go to? Can you not? 1471 01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:44,920 Speaker 5: Can you get out? Can you get it out of him? 1472 01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:46,719 Speaker 5: Like he doesn't love football or any of that stuff. 1473 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,320 Speaker 5: I just think he's still developing and he'll be a 1474 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:54,760 Speaker 5: really interesting player. Again, he's way different than the guy 1475 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,599 Speaker 5: Cashiers Howl from Texas A and m He's you know, 1476 01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:01,080 Speaker 5: he's bigger than Mezzador. He's just you know, what, what 1477 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,720 Speaker 5: is your d line coach? What does your defensive coordinator 1478 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,920 Speaker 5: want there? I don't want to say. You know, Rousseau 1479 01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:11,559 Speaker 5: is young and long and you know when he got 1480 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,760 Speaker 5: drafted out of Miami. But this guy's even stronger and 1481 01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,960 Speaker 5: a little a little different. He's somewhere. I hate to 1482 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,839 Speaker 5: compare him to Kalais Campbell because Kalais Campbell's a giant 1483 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,599 Speaker 5: and he's played great for eighteen years. But he's an 1484 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,719 Speaker 5: interesting player. Again. I'd be curious what kind of NFL 1485 01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,599 Speaker 5: career is going to have because people really like him. 1486 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,479 Speaker 5: Another wild card to keep an eye on is Zion 1487 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,519 Speaker 5: Young from Missouri. D Line coaches I talked to in 1488 01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:40,280 Speaker 5: Indie like him more than I think the draft analysts do, 1489 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 5: and they thought his stock was really going to rise 1490 01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:45,160 Speaker 5: coming out of Indie, and it seems like it has some. 1491 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,760 Speaker 1: Bruce Feldman, college football writer for The Athletic. He's also 1492 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 1: the author of the Freaks List Guys who really test 1493 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,120 Speaker 1: out well at the Combine. Bruce, thanks for spending some 1494 01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:54,479 Speaker 1: time with us. Really appreciate it. 1495 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,280 Speaker 5: What it was a pleasure, guys. Thank you for having me. 1496 01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:02,200 Speaker 1: Good stuff for me mine these guys. I like hearing 1497 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,599 Speaker 1: that because it gives you the idea that there's gonna 1498 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,639 Speaker 1: be something there that you're really gonna we're gonna Bills 1499 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,479 Speaker 1: fans alike, and they'll be really productive well. 1500 01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,760 Speaker 3: And I think, you know, he kind of confirms what 1501 01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,720 Speaker 3: we've heard a lot already. 1502 01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:20,240 Speaker 2: Is there's only really three top, top and potential elite 1503 01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,880 Speaker 2: wide receivers in this draft. Guys were all gonna be 1504 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 2: far gone by the time twenty six was gonna roll around, 1505 01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:29,519 Speaker 2: But there's quality depth at that position, and I think 1506 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,960 Speaker 2: that that's kind of a good sign if you're hoping 1507 01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,640 Speaker 2: the Bills maybe follow up in the third round with 1508 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,080 Speaker 2: a wide receiver. 1509 01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,800 Speaker 1: Right exactly. It kind of moves everything around. As we 1510 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:41,920 Speaker 1: heard him talk going down the list of all these 1511 01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,240 Speaker 1: guys are gonna be available as edge rushers. We didn't 1512 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:46,439 Speaker 1: even have time to go into the defensive tackle or 1513 01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:50,479 Speaker 1: noseguard position, but yeah, there's some guys there. It's gonna 1514 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,679 Speaker 1: be fun to see. Steve Tasker Josh Reed, We're gonna 1515 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,400 Speaker 1: come back and finish things up here to the top. 1516 01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:55,920 Speaker 1: To the top of the hour. You're listening to One 1517 01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,639 Speaker 1: Bills Live. We're presented by Kalida Health. 1518 01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:17,519 Speaker 7: Stay with us, Welcome back in One Bill's Lives. 1519 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 1: Detasker Josh Reed, we're hanging out talking about the Dj 1520 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:24,880 Speaker 1: Moore trade of the Buffalo Bills. Bills gave up the 1521 01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,479 Speaker 1: number sixtieth pick of the draft. They got back the 1522 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:35,800 Speaker 1: one sixty seventh pick and Dj Moore, I'm okay with it. 1523 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,519 Speaker 1: The big give for the Bills is the commitment, which 1524 01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,559 Speaker 1: may or may not be worth it, as we've seen 1525 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,679 Speaker 1: with other free agent signings in the particularly the wide 1526 01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:48,080 Speaker 1: receiver spot. So we'll have to sit and wait to 1527 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,320 Speaker 1: see whether this trade was good or not. Like you 1528 01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,280 Speaker 1: always do. If the guy comes in hits a home run, obviously, 1529 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 1: but we've had people from Chicago the most, notably the 1530 01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 1: sideline reporter Jason McKee on the show, and he had 1531 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,360 Speaker 1: nothing but good things to say about DJ Moore, obviously 1532 01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,400 Speaker 1: as a person because of Walter Payton Award winner, but 1533 01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:10,120 Speaker 1: also for the fact that he thinks the guy can 1534 01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,960 Speaker 1: really play. Still, some people think going into it and 1535 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,920 Speaker 1: it'll be as he'll be twenty nine this season when 1536 01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,120 Speaker 1: he plays for the Bills, they have doubts about I 1537 01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,280 Speaker 1: don't know how you've the commitment, Yes, is there, but 1538 01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,439 Speaker 1: some people are wishing they got Mike Evans, who's three 1539 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:28,799 Speaker 1: years four years older. 1540 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,880 Speaker 3: Well. Then we had Bruce Feldman on just now and 1541 01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,040 Speaker 3: it's one of the things I thought was interesting that 1542 01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:36,960 Speaker 3: he said, you know, because this is a guy that's 1543 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,559 Speaker 3: really locked into the draft, and he said, look, there's 1544 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,920 Speaker 3: three elite wide receivers in this draft. 1545 01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:43,599 Speaker 1: You're not getting them. 1546 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:45,800 Speaker 2: And he said the guy at twenty six is not 1547 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,640 Speaker 2: going to be better than Djmore. 1548 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:52,559 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's right. That's a pretty large statement. 1549 01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,599 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing too, and there's both two sides 1550 01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:58,559 Speaker 1: of that sword. He might not be as good as 1551 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 1: DJ Moore but he's going to be like tenth of 1552 01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,519 Speaker 1: the price. Yeah, maybe not a tenth, But you don't 1553 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,800 Speaker 1: expect him to be well, actually that's not true. If 1554 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:07,800 Speaker 1: he's the number one draft pick and you expect him 1555 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:08,519 Speaker 1: to be DJ. 1556 01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,360 Speaker 2: Moore no matter what he car you need him to 1557 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,960 Speaker 2: be no matter what he car in the progression of 1558 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,479 Speaker 2: you know, your your window, if you. 1559 01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,320 Speaker 1: Will, that's true, you need him to be that guy. 1560 01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:21,280 Speaker 1: He would need to be that guy, and DJ Moore 1561 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:26,400 Speaker 1: will be pretty I'm pretty confident. I'm pretty confident he's 1562 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,160 Speaker 1: gonna be able to give you some good now. You know, 1563 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,000 Speaker 1: it was the same thing. Von Miller was the same thing. 1564 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he came in and was killing it for 1565 01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,000 Speaker 1: eight games and then it was you know, there we go. 1566 01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:37,160 Speaker 1: Then you're stuck. 1567 01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can't can't predict that, right, you can't 1568 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:41,200 Speaker 3: do business. 1569 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,800 Speaker 1: You can't. You can't. You can't do it like that. 1570 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:48,400 Speaker 1: So you can play percentages, and well. 1571 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,439 Speaker 3: The percentages say, this guy doesn't get hurt. 1572 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 1: The guy never misses a game, He hasn't missed a 1573 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:59,840 Speaker 1: game in five years. That's in this era or this 1574 01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,679 Speaker 1: you know, in this little place we're at in Bill's history. 1575 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:06,000 Speaker 1: That that's awesome. Yeah, right, they had like nine guys 1576 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,040 Speaker 1: go through the roster because of injuries on and off 1577 01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,519 Speaker 1: the field last year. To have a guy who's gonna 1578 01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,759 Speaker 1: line up there every week, that's that would be huge. 1579 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:19,160 Speaker 2: I mean the investment is money, right, and that's yeah, 1580 01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:24,639 Speaker 2: money and money more so the money. If the money 1581 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,439 Speaker 2: wasn't as big as it is, no one would have 1582 01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,280 Speaker 2: any issue with the sixtieth that's correct. I don't think 1583 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 2: that's correct. That's that's true. And look sure that's that's 1584 01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,720 Speaker 2: the gamble in that investment. But if you invest the 1585 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,519 Speaker 2: twenty sixth overall pick, that's still a big investment in 1586 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:41,599 Speaker 2: a wide receiver. 1587 01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:42,840 Speaker 3: It just is. 1588 01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,960 Speaker 2: I mean, that's you're you know, you're you're counting on 1589 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,559 Speaker 2: that dude to come in and be the dude. DJ 1590 01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:50,920 Speaker 2: Moore is going to come in and be the dude. 1591 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:58,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's true. That is true. It's well that 1592 01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,200 Speaker 1: that changes the conversation about what the roster build that 1593 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:02,320 Speaker 1: has yet to be done. 1594 01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,000 Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, what are we gonna talk about for the 1595 01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:04,320 Speaker 3: next one? 1596 01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:05,680 Speaker 1: Are we gonna do for months? Right? 1597 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:06,080 Speaker 5: No? More? 1598 01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,160 Speaker 1: Really? Receiver for me. When we talked to Bruce Feldman 1599 01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,519 Speaker 1: from the athletic just a couple of minutes ago. My 1600 01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:16,280 Speaker 1: first thought is, now, okay, now we're gonna talk edge, yes, rushers, back, outside, linebacker. 1601 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:21,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk nose tackle, safety and safety. I wouldn't 1602 01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:23,320 Speaker 1: be shocked if the Bills grabbed his safety in the 1603 01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:26,280 Speaker 1: at number twenty six. You're gonna be able to get 1604 01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:31,240 Speaker 1: a big, athletic guy at that spot at twenty six. 1605 01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 2: Look, Caleb Downs is by far the best safety and 1606 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,839 Speaker 2: maybe maybe the best player in this draft. 1607 01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:41,839 Speaker 3: But the second best safety is Dylan Theeneman from Oregon. 1608 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,240 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna tell you right now, if you haven't 1609 01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,839 Speaker 2: watched him play, that dude can flat out. 1610 01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:49,680 Speaker 1: I saw I saw a highlight, you know, and you 1611 01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,599 Speaker 1: see all kinds of stuff on social media, and some 1612 01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,120 Speaker 1: of it's he some of it's good, some of us not. 1613 01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,719 Speaker 1: So this guy goes look at this play with Finnaman theeneman. 1614 01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,680 Speaker 1: So the kid they're lined up, he's deep safety. They 1615 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,240 Speaker 1: run a they run a stretch play, running play off 1616 01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:11,400 Speaker 1: the right side of the offense, and he triggers and 1617 01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:16,120 Speaker 1: comes up into the formation and it literally looks like 1618 01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:20,439 Speaker 1: he's the guy said it on the in the in 1619 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,760 Speaker 1: his tweet, it looks like he's making a play and 1620 01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,599 Speaker 1: everybody else looks like the whistle blue. 1621 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was moving at different speed. 1622 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,040 Speaker 1: It was like a it was. It literally looked like 1623 01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,120 Speaker 1: a camera effect. It was the most it was. I 1624 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,040 Speaker 1: had to watch it like four times to see it. 1625 01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,720 Speaker 1: He was unblocked to be because he came from He 1626 01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,839 Speaker 1: came from a mile back, and when the ball was snapped, 1627 01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,000 Speaker 1: he saw it, saw the quarterback turn to stretch the 1628 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,160 Speaker 1: ball out, and he triggered and he was there and 1629 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,519 Speaker 1: made a tackle for loss after lining up twelve fourteen 1630 01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:00,960 Speaker 1: yards deep. It was, and he was moving at fast 1631 01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,080 Speaker 1: forward and everybody else was half speed. It was. It 1632 01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,800 Speaker 1: was an amazing play on tape. And that's the kind 1633 01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:08,200 Speaker 1: of thing that catches your eye. 1634 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:09,960 Speaker 3: Sure, the wow plays. 1635 01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:14,760 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm I'm all about that. But on the 1636 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,640 Speaker 1: other hand, I know too, there are other needs and 1637 01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:22,760 Speaker 1: you're not gonna find or maybe you will. But I 1638 01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,200 Speaker 1: still think up high in the draft, you've got to 1639 01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,759 Speaker 1: get somebody with some physical traits that you can't find 1640 01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:33,160 Speaker 1: in civilian life. You know, they got to be bigger, stronger, faster, 1641 01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,280 Speaker 1: They got to look like a pro athlete at the 1642 01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:35,960 Speaker 1: at the top and. 1643 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,280 Speaker 3: There's some edge guys that in this draft that will 1644 01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:38,679 Speaker 3: be there. 1645 01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,040 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to a nose I'm thinking nose tackle 1646 01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:41,760 Speaker 1: as well. 1647 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:45,160 Speaker 2: Well, because you if it's a pure nose tackle, it's 1648 01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:46,760 Speaker 2: gonna be the number one If you take them at 1649 01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,040 Speaker 2: twenty six, it's gonna be the number one nose tackle 1650 01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:49,519 Speaker 2: in the draft. 1651 01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:50,599 Speaker 3: You're gonna have your pick. 1652 01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:54,360 Speaker 1: Maybe, I don't know. I don't know. I just think 1653 01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:55,000 Speaker 1: that's the case. 1654 01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,320 Speaker 2: I just think that there's so much emphasis now on 1655 01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:02,800 Speaker 2: versatility and position of flexibility. And you guys got you 1656 01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,640 Speaker 2: got guys in college now lined up all across the 1657 01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:10,840 Speaker 2: defensive line to get it shrew over the center, like 1658 01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,880 Speaker 2: take just chewing up double teams, like just taking on 1659 01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,479 Speaker 2: everybody right, Like would you call him the stump? 1660 01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,680 Speaker 3: Ted Washington a couple of days ago, you got your 1661 01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,160 Speaker 3: stump is as hard. 1662 01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,960 Speaker 1: To move as an oak stump. Yeah, and you just 1663 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, you put two guys on him that it 1664 01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,880 Speaker 1: doesn't help. You're not moving them. Ted was like that, 1665 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,040 Speaker 1: there have been another guy. There are guys in the 1666 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,280 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, Like Curly Colp was like that. Vince 1667 01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:38,400 Speaker 1: will Fork was like that, there's some dudes in the 1668 01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,439 Speaker 1: history of the league that are different kind of cats. 1669 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:45,679 Speaker 1: Ted Washington may have been one of one even amongst 1670 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,880 Speaker 1: those guys. Now, one thing that and I talked about 1671 01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:50,920 Speaker 1: this all the time, Ted should be in the Hall 1672 01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,280 Speaker 1: of Fame consideration for the dominance that he showed. And 1673 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,519 Speaker 1: his only problem was he'd never sacked the quarterback or 1674 01:23:56,520 --> 01:24:00,280 Speaker 1: it didn't very much. And because of that Hall of 1675 01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,080 Speaker 1: Fame voters like pooh pooh his contribution. The guy played 1676 01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,800 Speaker 1: for nineteen years and people were standing in line to 1677 01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,679 Speaker 1: have that guy play for them. He was a difference maker. 1678 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:13,040 Speaker 1: But they're rare. He's rare. You get guys. This guy, 1679 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,599 Speaker 1: Xavian Harris, just a name. He's like the number twelve 1680 01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,640 Speaker 1: guy on defensive tackles on a website that I'm looking at, 1681 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:25,920 Speaker 1: Xaviing Harris. He's six', eight three hundred and thirty. 1682 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:31,840 Speaker 2: Pounds That's dion that, right that's That's Dean. Walker yeah or, yeah, 1683 01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:32,519 Speaker 2: yeah it's just. 1684 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,320 Speaker 1: Huge dion plays a little, high but you, know his 1685 01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,000 Speaker 1: pad levels too high to be a true nose tackle 1686 01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:43,040 Speaker 1: because they get under the, ormous, right but he's. Enormous he's. 1687 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:49,840 Speaker 1: Enormous they, can't you, know they The scouttery report on 1688 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,080 Speaker 1: this guy and his is number. Twelve this is the 1689 01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:55,439 Speaker 1: twelfth guy at this position on this. Website this is 1690 01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,519 Speaker 1: six y. Seven his, arms his arms go on. Forever 1691 01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:03,160 Speaker 1: his frame is such the offensive linemen have a hard 1692 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,400 Speaker 1: time getting around to the next. Level they can't get 1693 01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,559 Speaker 1: around him to get to the double team. Level his 1694 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,280 Speaker 1: run defense took a huge leap in his last two 1695 01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,439 Speaker 1: seasons in. College he's got his hands play, stride started attacking, 1696 01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:18,600 Speaker 1: blockers uh started learned technique that you, know which is 1697 01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,720 Speaker 1: what THE nfl is all. About. Technique he could line 1698 01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:24,519 Speaker 1: up with the zero, technique the three, technique the four eye, 1699 01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:28,360 Speaker 1: technique or the five. Tech h he. Could he's versatile 1700 01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:33,800 Speaker 1: in that he's got six career block. Kicks, okay he's 1701 01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:37,240 Speaker 1: this is my. Guys, yeah he blocked sixth. Place that's 1702 01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:40,080 Speaker 1: my he's my. Favorite, now he's got six career block. 1703 01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:44,040 Speaker 1: Kicks that's my. Guy he's got a nice he's got a, 1704 01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,439 Speaker 1: yeah he's got a swim. Move his swim move is 1705 01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:51,639 Speaker 1: a legitimate, weapon and when he times it right, off 1706 01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,400 Speaker 1: the snap guards have no answer for his long. Arms 1707 01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:58,639 Speaker 1: and because he can clear the block so, well late 1708 01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:03,240 Speaker 1: arriving powers on. Film it, says just you know that 1709 01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:08,000 Speaker 1: this so these guys all have gifts that they're gonna 1710 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:09,080 Speaker 1: bring to the, table. 1711 01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:10,559 Speaker 3: You. 1712 01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,679 Speaker 2: Know the other the other thing is and we'll find 1713 01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:16,160 Speaker 2: out exactly how some of the free agency plays. Out 1714 01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:19,720 Speaker 2: but they may need an interior offensive lineman as. WELL 1715 01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,360 Speaker 2: i mean we're sitting here focused just on the defensive 1716 01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,400 Speaker 2: side of the, ball BUT i mean we'll see exactly 1717 01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,960 Speaker 2: where that all kind of plays, out right, Right we'll. 1718 01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,000 Speaker 1: See we're gonna world dig further into this. Tomorrow, also 1719 01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,719 Speaker 1: you can tweet at us for. Tomorrow the fan mail 1720 01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,559 Speaker 1: bag will be open On. Friday ask questions Of, josh Of, 1721 01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,960 Speaker 1: me of, anything give us comments and we'll talk about. 1722 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:42,760 Speaker 1: Them we're gonna take a, break come back to wrap 1723 01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,000 Speaker 1: things up here And One Bill's live presented By. Colidahealth 1724 01:26:45,000 --> 01:27:05,120 Speaker 1: stay with, Us welcome back To One Bill's. Live we're 1725 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:08,080 Speaker 1: just here to wrap things. Up you, know we're getting 1726 01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,439 Speaker 1: a lot of you, know feedback on THE dj more 1727 01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,479 Speaker 1: trade by The Buffalo bills to The Chicago bears for 1728 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:17,640 Speaker 1: the number sixtieth overall. Pick and the thing that it 1729 01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,920 Speaker 1: comes down to for me is the hard part about 1730 01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:25,920 Speaker 1: it is the financial commitment that. Guy the player is is. 1731 01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:29,479 Speaker 1: GOOD i couldn't be happier with the. Player right kind of, 1732 01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:34,800 Speaker 1: guy right kind of. Production he's twenty. Eight i'm good with. 1733 01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:40,519 Speaker 1: That but the financial commitment and the year, long year's 1734 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:46,479 Speaker 1: long commitment is something that Is that's that's the big 1735 01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,880 Speaker 1: part of this for The Buffalo. Bills if he shows 1736 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,120 Speaker 1: up and plays and plays in you, know like he 1737 01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,599 Speaker 1: has for the past five, years seventeen games every, year 1738 01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,760 Speaker 1: he's on the field when you want to call on, 1739 01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,759 Speaker 1: him he's. Not he's not standing there in the hoodie, 1740 01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,200 Speaker 1: waiting you, know waiting on something to heal. Up so 1741 01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,559 Speaker 1: that to, me if he's if he's on the, field 1742 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,240 Speaker 1: And I'M i am good with the, MONEY i don't 1743 01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,360 Speaker 1: care because the guys were talking about some of the 1744 01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:11,320 Speaker 1: other guys were talking Like Mike, evans some of the 1745 01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,919 Speaker 1: other free. Agents you're talking, about, Uh, Peer Rashid, Shaheed, 1746 01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah Romeo. DABS Jj moore's, Better. YEAH Jj moore is 1747 01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:24,559 Speaker 1: better than those. Guys you love the, player you don't 1748 01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,559 Speaker 1: love the. Contract that's. Right that's where it Comes that's 1749 01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,240 Speaker 1: where it comes down to the. Contract you. Know of, 1750 01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,160 Speaker 1: Course i'm now we're all. GMS i Wish i'd get 1751 01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,120 Speaker 1: him to play for, nothing of, course or the veteran, 1752 01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:36,120 Speaker 1: minimum but you know that doesn't. Happen I'm i'm interested in. 1753 01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:39,360 Speaker 1: That this, is this is going to be right. NOW 1754 01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,240 Speaker 1: i don't know if it's the centerpiece of the offseason 1755 01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,639 Speaker 1: because we've got a long way to, go but, yeah 1756 01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:45,920 Speaker 1: that's this is this scratches an. 1757 01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,839 Speaker 2: Itch, now let me ask you. This if the money's 1758 01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,080 Speaker 2: the same and it's not the pick sixty and it's 1759 01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:57,639 Speaker 2: a fifth, rounder, right you're giving up a fifth instead 1760 01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:01,040 Speaker 2: of the second, rounder does the money become less of 1761 01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,280 Speaker 2: an issue or is it still it's still just ABOUT i, 1762 01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:04,600 Speaker 2: mean you. 1763 01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:06,240 Speaker 1: Mean if you didn't have to give up, THAT i 1764 01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:07,439 Speaker 1: don't care about that Draft. 1765 01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:08,680 Speaker 3: Okay that's what. 1766 01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,400 Speaker 1: Sixtieth you don't. CARE i don't. CARE i don't care 1767 01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,160 Speaker 1: about the sixtieth draft pick we. Got we got one 1768 01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,680 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seventh, back let's. Go i'm. Fine that 1769 01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:18,720 Speaker 1: doesn't bother me as. Much it's the commitment in the. 1770 01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:22,280 Speaker 1: Cash it's the. Cash it's the. Cash so we'll. See, 1771 01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,519 Speaker 1: uh we're gonna we're gonna continue to chop this. Up 1772 01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:26,400 Speaker 1: you can come back and visit us tomorrow as. Well 1773 01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,200 Speaker 1: we'll be back here To, josh gonna finish out the 1774 01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:29,840 Speaker 1: week with. Us thanks for being in here all. Week that's. 1775 01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:33,200 Speaker 1: Awesome we'll be here tomorrow one and we're gonna have 1776 01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 1: some other people on on and, uh you, know we'll 1777 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,040 Speaker 1: chop this up and see if they start to GET cap. 1778 01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,200 Speaker 2: Complaints who, knows we'll be driving in and find out 1779 01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:41,400 Speaker 2: The bills made another. 1780 01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:42,720 Speaker 1: Deal, dude that's what. 1781 01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,240 Speaker 3: Happened to see some restructuring done here in the next 1782 01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:47,479 Speaker 3: couple of. Days, yeah, Right. 1783 01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:51,880 Speaker 1: Cap we'll take your question. Tomorrow tweet at, us let 1784 01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:54,120 Speaker 1: us know what you're. Thinking let us. Know we'll be 1785 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,160 Speaker 1: back at one. O'clock Steve task For Josh, reed thanks 1786 01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:57,599 Speaker 1: for joining. Us we'll talk to you tomorrow at one. 1787 01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:00,960 Speaker 1: O'clock se