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Speaker 1: By the Wizard of Weird Strange Thing with J Warren,

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Speaker 1: I am Joshua B. Warren, and each week on this show,

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Speaker 1: I'll be bringing you brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises,

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Speaker 1: and weird experiments you can do at home, and a

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Speaker 1: lot more on this edition of the show. Rim Sleep

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Speaker 1: You'll die without it? But why You've heard about it

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Speaker 1: your whole life? But what exactly is rem Sleep? That's

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Speaker 1: r E M. It stands for rapid eye movement. And

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Speaker 1: did you know that only mammals, mammals including Hugh humans

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Speaker 1: of course, and birds experience it? Now what on earth

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Speaker 1: could that mean? I'll dig more into that a bit later.

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Speaker 1: And scientists, these lovely scientists, discovered that if you prevent

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Speaker 1: a rat from sleeping, it will die in two to

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Speaker 1: three weeks. But if you let a rat sleep and

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Speaker 1: you just wake it up every time it starts to

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Speaker 1: enter rim sleep, it will still die, but it takes

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Speaker 1: twice as long, four to six weeks. So that shows

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Speaker 1: you the power and necessity of this rim sleep state.

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Speaker 1: But what exactly is going on here? Well, let's start,

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Speaker 1: as I often do, with some of the basic definitions.

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Speaker 1: All right, again, RIM is ore em rapid eye movement

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Speaker 1: sleep a unique phase of sleep and mammals and birds

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Speaker 1: characterized by a random rapid movement of the eyes, accompanied

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Speaker 1: by low muscle tone throughout the body and the propensity

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Speaker 1: of the sleeper to dream vividly. Okay, so you're lying

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Speaker 1: there asleep, maybe you're just completely oblivious to your existence,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, under your eyelids the

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Speaker 1: lieballs start flickering around and flipping it from side to

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Speaker 1: side and you get very relaxed, your muscle tone drops,

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Speaker 1: and suddenly you begin to have these incredible things called dreams.

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Speaker 1: The rim phase is also known as paradoxical sleep because

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Speaker 1: of the physiological similarities to waking states, including some rapid

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Speaker 1: low voltage brain waves. And they say, when you start

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Speaker 1: breaking this down, and trust me, I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: get into all the little nitty gritty scientist details, because

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Speaker 1: as your body is, you know, jittery, your I guess

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Speaker 1: changes that happen in the brain. One of them, it says,

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Speaker 1: there is almost a complete absence of here we go,

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Speaker 1: you ready, neurona, pinafhrene, neurona penaphrene. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: Alex Trebec used to pronounce all these words on TV

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Speaker 1: neurona penephrene, and I was like, what is nimbarana penaphrene?

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Speaker 1: So if you look that up, it says, this is

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Speaker 1: an organic chemical that functions in the brain and body

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Speaker 1: higher levels during situations of stress and danger in the

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Speaker 1: Let's break this down, all right, What exactly is the

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Speaker 1: definition of a dream? Okay? A dream is a secession

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Speaker 1: goes back thousands of years. Here's a trivia question for you.

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Speaker 1: It's called here's another one of those words, ownerrology. I

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Speaker 1: O L O G y ownerurology, the scientific study of dreams. See,

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Speaker 1: we learn things together on this podcast. And one thing

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Speaker 1: a hallucination is something that arises from within that if

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Speaker 1: deprivation tank and you start seeing rainbows and unicorns and

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Speaker 1: also kind of just like a thought? You know, you

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Speaker 1: don't realize that it's a hallucination. Sometimes I wonder why

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Speaker 1: You Go When You Dream? And if you followed my

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Speaker 1: an extremely vivid dreamer. I think I dream even more

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Speaker 1: often wondered if there is another location out there that

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeartRadio and Coast

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Speaker 1: the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your

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Speaker 1: wormhole brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada,

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Speaker 1: Gietatos zume. When it comes to the mystery of oh

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Speaker 1: my compass, Hang on a second, this is interesting, Uh

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Speaker 1: what I had seen, and it was That's one of

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Speaker 1: the most unbelievable jaw dropping experiences I've ever had in

429
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Speaker 1: my entire life. So how does that apply to this? Well,

430
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: it's just funny to me because I didn't know that

431
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: only mammals and birds enter rim sleep and I have

432
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Speaker 1: this kind of profound dream experience and it related to

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Speaker 1: what I call the bird god. And after that I

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00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: started looking into it because there was something distinctly Egyptian

435
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: feeling about the whole experience. And I've never really studied

436
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Speaker 1: Egyptian mythology, and well, this may very well have been

437
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Speaker 1: what the ancients call Horace h o r Us. If

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Speaker 1: you've seen pictures of Horace, I'm looking at one right

439
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: now from the hieroglyphs. It's depicted as a man with

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Speaker 1: a blue head of a bird. See even got the

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00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: little sprigs and stuff sticking out. I don't know what

442
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: you call those, and I don't have time to look

443
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: it up right now, but you know, you know probably

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Speaker 1: what I mean. It says uh. He is one of

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00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: the most significant ancient Egyptian deities who served many functions,

446
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: most notably as god of kingship, healing, protection, the sun

447
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: and the sky. Most often depicted as a falcon, most

448
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: likely a lanner falcon or peregrine falcon, or as a

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00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: man with the falcon head. You know, if that was

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Speaker 1: a real experience, then I apparently was visited by what

451
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: the ancient's called Horace to give me this message. I

452
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: know that's weird. I'm not telling you that I believe

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00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: that's what happened, but I'm explaining to you what my

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00:31:54,240 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: experience is. So having said all that, okay, what exactly

455
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: is the significance? What is the power of this stage

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00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: called rimsleep? If you go back and I told you

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Speaker 1: I was reading an article at sleepfoundation dot org about rimsleep.

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Speaker 1: Now here's a quote from that website, and these are

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Speaker 1: sleep experts. It says, quote rim sleep deprivation disrupts the

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Speaker 1: brain's ability to generate new cells end quote. So why

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00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: is that? Here's the quote again, rim sleep deprivation disrupts

462
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: the brain's ability to generate new cells in quote. So

463
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: if your brain cannot generate new cells, well, I guess

464
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: you reach a point where you can't reboot the computer anymore.

465
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: I believe this means you are connected to a larger

466
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: consciousness and you have to download and upload information in

467
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: order to stay alive as an extension of that consciousness.

468
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: What happens if you never restart your computer? It finally crashes,

469
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: and this may be proof that humans and some other

470
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: animals are clearly connected more powerfully to this source. Proof

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Speaker 1: of this thing I call the wormhole brain that I

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Speaker 1: wrote about in my book called The Secret Wisdom of

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Speaker 1: Kucko Khan. You know how that you hear these people

474
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: who've had near death experiences say, when I died, my

475
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: life flashed before my eyes. Well, maybe this is a

476
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: miniature version of this that when you are entering rim sleep,

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Speaker 1: it's a small version of your life flashing before your eyes.

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Speaker 1: But it's not literally your life. When you think of

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Speaker 1: your life flashing before your eyes, you think of it

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Speaker 1: as the movie that you see through your physical eyes

481
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Speaker 1: every day, and that's where you expect to see a

482
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Speaker 1: big replay of that film that you've been watching for

483
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: the past seventy five years through your eyeballs. But actually

484
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: that's only part of the experience of being a human.

485
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: Being a human also includes abstract thoughts and being able

486
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: to piece together concepts and relationships between things, and the

487
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: oncological aspect of how all these little pieces fit together.

488
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: And so when your life flashes before your eyes, it's

489
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: not just literally the physical realm that you've experienced, but

490
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: it's more than that, which is why you can be

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00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: congenitally blind and still have this rim sleep with some

492
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: kind of version of dreaming that maybe it's impossible to

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Speaker 1: explain to other people. So when you are entering rim sleep,

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Speaker 1: it's like that you're plugging your brain into the socket. Again,

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Speaker 1: let's use the computer as an analogy. When you plug

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Speaker 1: your computer into the wall outlet and the little icon

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00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: switches and shows you it's in charge mode. I think

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00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: that maybe what rimsleep is that your brain uplinks there,

499
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: connects with the greater source, and then when your eyeballs

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Speaker 1: start flicking around, that means you are now in you're

501
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: in charge state. The charge icon has turned on inside

502
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 1: your brain, and all this information is being uploaded and downloaded,

503
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: and some of it makes sense, and some of it

504
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: makes no sense, and some of it actually does include

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00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: relationships that you have with other dimensions that you're not

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00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: consciously aware of other places in the universe. So you're

507
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: plugging into that socket, and if you don't get that, well,

508
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: then eventually you're not getting what it takes to generate

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00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: new cells. And so this mental experience is not able

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00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: to translate into physical regeneration and you die. Now, to me,

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00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: that is paranormal because it's so outside of the realm

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Speaker 1: of what we can put our hands on and directly experience,

513
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: and yet we're used to it because it's actually not

514
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: paranormal if we all do it. But sometimes what's paranormal

515
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: just doesn't seem paranormal because that you're used to it,

516
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: if that makes sense. It's like the moon, for example,

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00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: every single time I go outside, I look up and

518
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: see the moon. I'm like that, there's something paranormal about

519
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: the fact this big bright ball is sitting up there

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00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: in the sky. Well, you don't even know exactly where

521
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 1: it came from, but you know, we're used to it.

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Speaker 1: So that's my conclusion based upon what I've learned so

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Speaker 1: far about rim and rimsleep and the role that it

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Speaker 1: plays and what it means to enter that phase as

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Speaker 1: a human. It gets more complicated when you start breaking

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Speaker 1: it down into other species that don't enter rim and again,

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00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: you know that's you could probably read a whole book

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00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: about that. But speaking of the moon, of course, recently,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you saw. I'm looking at one of the

530
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Speaker 1: news stories here, this private company in Houston put this

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Speaker 1: craft called the Odysseus on the Moon, so they say,

532
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Speaker 1: and I was watching through I guess the NASA channel

533
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Speaker 1: live when this happened, and they kept showing simulations of

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Speaker 1: this craft landing on the Moon, but no actual footage,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, where's the footage, where's the footage?

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00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: And finally you saw the people in the control room

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00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: and they're sitting there, Oh, we did it, Yay, we

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00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: did it, and I'm sitting They're confused at first because

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Speaker 1: fifty five years ago, in nineteen sixty nine, when Apollo

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Speaker 1: eleven landed on the Moon and Neil Armstrong stepped onto

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Speaker 1: the Moon, that was being broadcast live to the entire world.

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Speaker 1: So they say, they used technology that was first developed

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Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty eight by the Scottish innovator named John

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Speaker 1: Logi Baird to develop a small, robust television camera that

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Speaker 1: enabled the live broadcast from that mission. Okay, so in

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty nine, fifty five years ago, we have a

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Speaker 1: camera that was first developed in nineteen twenty eight that

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00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: showed us that live. But here in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: when everybody is running around with cheap little cameras that

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00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: are everybody's Spilberg. Now people have a camera hidden in

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00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: their bow tie. We don't have footage of this thing. Ment. Okay,

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Speaker 1: got to take a break. When we come back, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you more about what I think about that and

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Speaker 1: the Roswell UFO crash. I'm Joshua Wapee one. You're listening

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Speaker 1: And there was recently, I mean maybe like a week ago,

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Speaker 1: a news story over at Fox News about just how

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Speaker 1: crucial it is to get a good night's sleep. If

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Speaker 1: you have sleep apnea. Then they say that that can

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Speaker 1: cause all kinds of problems with cardiovascular disease, heart attacks, strokes, aneurysms.

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Speaker 1: I even had a friend who was in his fifties

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Speaker 1: and thinn seemed to be perfectly healthy and good spirits.

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Speaker 1: He laid down on his couch one night and went

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Speaker 1: to sleep, and the next morning his wife found him dead,

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Speaker 1: and it was because of sleep apneum And so it's

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Speaker 1: very important for you to also considered that physical aspect

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Speaker 1: of being able to get a good night's rest. I

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Speaker 1: want to mention that for sure. In fact, I am

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Speaker 1: planning on going to have a sleep study soon to

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00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: see if I might be able to improve some of

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Speaker 1: my sleep habits. But going back to this craft that

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Speaker 1: they landed the Odysseus mission. Look, I have never been

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Speaker 1: one of those people who believes that we didn't put

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Speaker 1: men on the moon. Okay, I've always believed that that

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Speaker 1: was true, that it did happen. But I also think

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00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: that there was a lot of fake footage, fake imagery

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Speaker 1: that was also produced as a part of the project,

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Speaker 1: because this was during the height of the Cold War,

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Speaker 1: and so if they weren't sure what they were going

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00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: to see up there, then I bet you there was

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Speaker 1: a plan to release some kind of footage to make

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Speaker 1: it look like that if there had been a problem,

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Speaker 1: maybe that there wasn't a problem, they wanted it to

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Speaker 1: look like things were going more smoothly, Or if they

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Speaker 1: discovered something amazing that they didn't want the Russians to

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00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: know about, then you know, they would have the footage

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Speaker 1: they could cut to, or if they encountered Aliens, they

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Speaker 1: would have the footage they could cut to. It's certainly

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Speaker 1: difficult to figure out how much of the footage out

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Speaker 1: there is legit and how much is not. And what

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Speaker 1: makes this even more amazing is that believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: the original reels from that broadcast of Neil Armstrong and

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Speaker 1: those guys on the Moon. I mean, I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: the reels that contained the telemetry, as they call it,

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Speaker 1: for the slow scan TV record of the first moonwalk.

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Speaker 1: They're gone, they're missing, they've been, they've Most historians say that, oh,

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Speaker 1: they were probably just erased and reused for later NASA missions.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh, don't tell me there's not something fishy about that.

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Speaker 1: So here it is twenty twenty four, when, like I say,

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Speaker 1: every Tom, Dick and Harry has a who knows how

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Speaker 1: many little tiny cameras that operate off of batteries that

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Speaker 1: cost next to nothing, little lightweight batteries. Everything's being filmed

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00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: now and these these people, this company, they're gonna land

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Speaker 1: this craft on the Moon, going back for the first

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Speaker 1: time in all these decades, making history, and they're not

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Speaker 1: going to be able to stream us a live view

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Speaker 1: of this in real time. That's just unbelievable to me.

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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking maybe they were concerned about what would

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Speaker 1: be shown if there are other little things flying around

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Speaker 1: up there, or there's some other technology up there. That's

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00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: all I can come up with. And it turns out

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00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: that mission they say was you know, it's gonna it

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00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: didn't turn out so well because at some point this

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00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: thing tipped over and its solar panels started losing light,

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Speaker 1: and so you know, they weren't able to continue the mission.

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00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: But still, isn't that just I don't know, that's a

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Speaker 1: little bit too much for coincidence in my book. Well,

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Speaker 1: when I did a podcast recently talking about space and

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Speaker 1: space technology and all these things, I was talking about

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Speaker 1: Roswell and the book the day after Roswell, and I

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Speaker 1: posted this on my Facebook page. If you're on Facebook,

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Speaker 1: you can find my personal Facebook page, and you can

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Speaker 1: also find the Facebook page for the show Strange Things,

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Speaker 1: and I hope that you will follow both of them.

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Speaker 1: And I got a comment here from an author named

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Speaker 1: John Russell, and he's a fascinating guy. He's also a

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Speaker 1: psychic and he's had experiences with every kind of paranormal

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Speaker 1: thing you can imagine. And he commented saying, when I

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Speaker 1: was in Roswell, I met an eyewitnessed to the Roswell

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Speaker 1: UFO crash. It was an amazing experience and I wrote

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Speaker 1: about it in my second book. So I asked John Russell, well,

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Speaker 1: what's the name of that book, And he said it's

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Speaker 1: called a knock in the Attic, True Ghost Stories and

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Speaker 1: other spine chilling paranormal Adventures. So I found his book

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Speaker 1: on Amazon was able to instantly read it as a kindle.

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Speaker 1: It's a great read. And I found that section where

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Speaker 1: he's talking about Roswell, and I asked him if I

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Speaker 1: could read that excerpt to you on this podcast, and

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Speaker 1: he said absolutely so, John Russell, thank you for giving

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Speaker 1: me permission to do that. I don't know right off

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Speaker 1: the bat that I've ever heard of anybody anybody saying

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Speaker 1: that they saw the craft crash, you know. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: here's what he says in his book. In July of

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, I decided I would go to Alien

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Speaker 1: Encounter in ninety eight in Roswell, New Mexico, and performed

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Speaker 1: psychic readings there. I paid my vendor fee, rented a

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Speaker 1: car and drove to Roswell. While there, I had two

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Speaker 1: amazing experiences. One I got to see Stanton Friedman lecture

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Speaker 1: in person. Two, I had a quote alien encounter of

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Speaker 1: my very own. While waiting for the Roswell UFO Museum

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Speaker 1: to open early one morning, I was standing on the

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Speaker 1: sidewalk in front of the Roswell International UFO Museum and

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Speaker 1: Research Center. When a woman came walking down the sidewalk,

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Speaker 1: and for some reason we struck up a conversation. I

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Speaker 1: explained to her that I was waiting for the UFO

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Speaker 1: Museum to open. She asked me if I'd been to

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Speaker 1: the museum before. I told her no, that as a

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, this was my very first time to

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Speaker 1: visit Roswell, even though I was born in New Mexico.

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Speaker 1: She asked if I was on vacation. I explained to

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Speaker 1: her I was a psychic and I was giving readings

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Speaker 1: at Alien Encounter ninety eight. We conversed a little longer,

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Speaker 1: and then her next statement shocked me so much I'm

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Speaker 1: sure I struggled to keep my mouth from hanging open.

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Speaker 1: Quote when we were kids, she said, my brother and

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Speaker 1: I were playing outside and we saw the UFO come

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Speaker 1: over and then crash off in the distance. End quote.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure my eyes had widened. I was in awe,

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Speaker 1: she continued. Quote. We could tell it was in distress.

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Speaker 1: We weren't surprised that it went down, and we knew,

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Speaker 1: beyond a shadow of a doubt what we saw it

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Speaker 1: was not a helicopter. It was not a plane. It

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Speaker 1: was not a weather balloon or a blimp. It was

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Speaker 1: a UFO, a flying saucer. End quote, and then he says, wow.

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Speaker 1: We talked a little longer, and she also told me

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Speaker 1: that many of the townspeople had been threatened if they

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Speaker 1: talked about the UFO, especially those who had actually seen it,

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Speaker 1: as she and her brother had. The clear implication, or

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Speaker 1: in reality, threat was that if a person talked about

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Speaker 1: what they had seen, their bones as well as those

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Speaker 1: of family members, would be found out in the desert.

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Speaker 1: She said, there were still some townspeople who were afraid

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Speaker 1: after all these years. And then she suddenly whipped her

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Speaker 1: head left and right several times, looking up and down

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Speaker 1: the street, and then said abruptly, I've said too much.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't talk. I'm sorry, goodbye. End quote, and she

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Speaker 1: hurried off down the street, leaving me dumbfounded and standing

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Speaker 1: alone once again in front of the museum as I

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Speaker 1: waited for it to open. He said, I saw some

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Speaker 1: interesting exhibits that day, but nothing was as interesting as

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Speaker 1: what that woman told me. This woman's experience, it certainly

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Speaker 1: goes a long way toward explaining why witnesses to UFO

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Speaker 1: incidents may be reluctant to come forward and testify. Another

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Speaker 1: reason a great deal of secrecy surrounds these events is

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Speaker 1: that those in the military and the government who swear

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Speaker 1: oaths of secrecy really do honor those oaths. An example

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Speaker 1: was my good buddy Bill Major. Bill. We'd be well

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Speaker 1: into our cups and sometimes conversations would turn to UFOs

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Speaker 1: military technology, things Bill had seen when he was briefly

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Speaker 1: a pilot, and he would begin to tell me some

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Speaker 1: astounding things and then suddenly censor himself, even when the

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Speaker 1: info was not classified, and he'd go, ah, I've said

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Speaker 1: too much. That's all I'm going to say. Now you

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Speaker 1: forget you heard that no more. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: discuss it anymore, So don't ask end quote. John Russell says,

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Speaker 1: So people really do take those oaths of secrecy quite seriously. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: something to think about. How about that? Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: witnessing that thing crash at Roswell I think it happened

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Speaker 1: during broad daylight. What a view that would have been.

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Speaker 1: My goodness. Well, we've covered a lot as usual on

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Speaker 1: this edition of the show. I hope you've enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: But now, why don't we all just unwind. Let's think

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Speaker 1: about manifesting a really good, positive, healthy, abundant, prosperous week

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Speaker 1: for yourself, for all of your friends and loved ones. Okay,

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Speaker 1: take some deep breaths, if you can close your eyes,

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Speaker 1: We're all going to listen together to this tone. It

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Speaker 1: the original good Fortune tone. That's it for this edition

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