Speaker 1: So this is a fun one because we have my
Speaker 1: friend Carol Marcowitz, my fellow Floridia And one of the
Speaker 1: beautiful things about having moved down to Florida is a
Speaker 1: lot of conservatives moved down to Florida. A lot of
Speaker 1: conservatives in the media have moved down to Florida. So
Speaker 1: I've been able to get to know a lot of
Speaker 1: really cool people down here and and kind of form,
Speaker 1: you know, this group of fellow Republican media types, and
Speaker 1: Carol is one of them. We become really good friends.
Speaker 1: She's so smart. You have to read her columns in
Speaker 1: the New York Post. She also writes for Fox News
Speaker 1: as well. You see her on TV quite a bit.
Speaker 1: And she really stood so strong during COVID because she's
Speaker 1: a mother of three and she saw what was happening
Speaker 1: to her kids in New York City schools, and she said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I've had enough. I'm tired of the masking.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of the treatment of kids, you know, not
Speaker 1: allowing kids to be able to go into schools. And
Speaker 1: so she really spoke out a lot about it, wrote
Speaker 1: a lot of columns when on TV talking about really
Speaker 1: trying to draw attention to the fact that what was
Speaker 1: happening to kids there and so many other places around
Speaker 1: the country is wrong. That was really why she ended
Speaker 1: up moving her family, her and her husband and her
Speaker 1: three kids to Florida, of seeking normalcy for her kids,
Speaker 1: just seeking a different environment. So she she writes a
Speaker 1: lot about that as well. So we're going to get
Speaker 1: into a whole host of issues talking about that move,
Speaker 1: sort of what seems like this war and children that's
Speaker 1: happening in the country, why the left seems to hate
Speaker 1: the idea of marriage so much, the idea of having
Speaker 1: children so much. She she recently wrote a column about
Speaker 1: these climate zealots that are encouraging people not to have kids.
Speaker 1: So we're going to get into that. Also some of
Speaker 1: the cultural rot that is happening in the country. She
Speaker 1: immigrated here, her family immigrated here from the Soviet Union,
Speaker 1: So also talking about from her perspective, are we still
Speaker 1: free as a country. So much to get into, and
Speaker 1: also just fun for me to have a friend, a
Speaker 1: friend I deeply respect and love on the show as well,
Speaker 1: So tune in Carol mark Witz Co marc O. Wits
Speaker 1: awesome to have you on. We're friends and You're awesome
Speaker 1: and one of the beautiful things about living in Florida
Speaker 1: is the fact that we become friends and that we've
Speaker 1: met high Lisa, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: And yes, I'm becoming friends with Lisa Booth right up
Speaker 1: there for like the top things to happen to me
Speaker 1: in the last year. Oh, that wouldn't that be hilarious?
Speaker 1: If I was like, we're friends? Are wet? I would
Speaker 1: be really sad. I'm like, yeah, we're such good friends
Speaker 1: and You're like, no, we are legitimately friends. You are
Speaker 1: one of my favorite people and really a highlight of
Speaker 1: the last year. Seriously, Well, I feel the same about you,
Speaker 1: and we are so lucky to be Floridians. But I
Speaker 1: know the move here was a big one for you
Speaker 1: because you grew up in Brooklyn, so you are like
Speaker 1: a New York or through and through. Talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about the decision making behind that and why you
Speaker 1: decided to pull the trigger. Yeah, so it's really for
Speaker 1: my kids. We have three kids, and I think all
Speaker 1: the time that like, if we didn't have kids, maybe
Speaker 1: we would have just struggled through living in New York.
Speaker 1: We thought that New York was in a really bad
Speaker 1: state because of COVID because of quote restrictions, not because
Speaker 1: of COVID the virus, because of the stupid ways that
Speaker 1: they reacted to the virus. And it was a really
Speaker 1: hard place to live. Um, I didn't see that my
Speaker 1: kids lives were going to become more normal in the future.
Speaker 1: And I feel like, even though, for example, they dropped
Speaker 1: masking in schools, it's still the case. I still hear
Speaker 1: from people all the time in New York whose I
Speaker 1: haven't been inside my child's classroom. Meanwhile, we got here
Speaker 1: in January, and I was in my kids classroom like
Speaker 1: a few weeks later, and it was such a shock
Speaker 1: to my system because I had forgotten that this is
Speaker 1: normal life is like you go to your kids classroom,
Speaker 1: you read the Kids with the Kids of book. Um,
Speaker 1: that's unheard of in so many places around the country still,
Speaker 1: and in places like New York. So we got out
Speaker 1: to save our kids childhoods and to give them a
Speaker 1: normal life. I'm glad you differentiated between saying no, it
Speaker 1: wasn't COVID, it was the policies, because you've got all
Speaker 1: these people, you really, Carol, You've got all these people
Speaker 1: in charge, and they're like, oh yeah, COVID did this
Speaker 1: to you, and it's like, no, you did you know?
Speaker 1: It's like no, no, it was you. And I think
Speaker 1: there's also a distinction in New York um between like
Speaker 1: the people who stayed in twenty like the people who
Speaker 1: got out like March, who were afraid of the virus.
Speaker 1: That wasn't us. We were not the people that got
Speaker 1: out in because we were afraid of virus. We got out.
Speaker 1: You know, it took until two to make a permanent move,
Speaker 1: but we actually did. Like a Florida testeron in one
Speaker 1: where we lived in an area called Palm Beach Gardens,
Speaker 1: which I had never even heard of before. We literally
Speaker 1: looked up like best public schools in Florida that were
Speaker 1: open at the time and the New York schools were not,
Speaker 1: and moved her kids down for five months to give
Speaker 1: them again some sense of normalcy. Um. So, you know,
Speaker 1: we were the ones who got out because the restrictions
Speaker 1: did not end, not because of the sirens at night,
Speaker 1: or because we were afraid, or because we lived in
Speaker 1: a small space or any of those reasons that people
Speaker 1: left early on in the pandemic. What kind of impact
Speaker 1: has moving to Florida had on your kids. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they're like blossoming. I mean, it's really amazing to watch.
Speaker 1: And it was hard, you know. I don't like to
Speaker 1: give people the illusion that, oh, it was so super easy.
Speaker 1: We just moved and everybody was thrilled. No, my older
Speaker 1: two really struggled with it because they were, you know,
Speaker 1: already had kind of their lives established in Brooklyn. My
Speaker 1: older one, my daughter, she was already like leaving the
Speaker 1: house and going to the Prospect Park and like getting
Speaker 1: dumplings with her friends and like just living like a
Speaker 1: preteen existence where she had a lot of freedom and
Speaker 1: she had a group of friends. And my middle son
Speaker 1: also had made you know, he ever had close friends
Speaker 1: and he didn't want to leave them. Um. My youngest
Speaker 1: was like Florida man since day one he got here.
Speaker 1: Everybody plays all the sports. He plays all the sports.
Speaker 1: You couldn't be happier. But it took a while for
Speaker 1: the older two to adjust. And so it really was
Speaker 1: a few months in that we started to see a
Speaker 1: real change in them and how happy they are and
Speaker 1: how normal their lives aren't, how how much less I
Speaker 1: have to worry about so many things. I mean, I
Speaker 1: still worry, like don't get me wrong. I don't think
Speaker 1: like Florida has no wokeness in their schools, but they
Speaker 1: have so much less And it's like so many things
Speaker 1: that you know, Governor de Santis has implemented in schools
Speaker 1: has helped so much where I don't have to be
Speaker 1: concerned that my first raider is going to have gender
Speaker 1: ideology pushed on him. And so small better changes have
Speaker 1: made such a difference. And I was losing sleep. I
Speaker 1: really was in New York about what kind of childhood
Speaker 1: my friends my kids were going to have and moving
Speaker 1: them to Florida. I sleep so much better well, And
Speaker 1: it's like we're so lucky because Florida just it still
Speaker 1: seems normal, right, like in a time where like the
Speaker 1: rest of the country seems to be on fire and
Speaker 1: there's chaos and you know, crazy way of thinking. It's
Speaker 1: just like it's just a place of normalcy. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: normalcy is like something it's impossible to describe to people
Speaker 1: who just have not had it. And I was one
Speaker 1: of those people who had really never had normal life before,
Speaker 1: Like I mean something silly, but like we moved, um,
Speaker 1: so we got the Florida and we rented and then
Speaker 1: we bought um and then we finally moved in in August,
Speaker 1: and like neighbors on both sides of us have brought
Speaker 1: us over food. I mean, that has never happened to
Speaker 1: me in New York City. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 1: always said New Yorkers were great and they were really
Speaker 1: good people, and it wasn't like I you know, I
Speaker 1: I never thought New Yorkers were bad. But it's kind
Speaker 1: of a complete different thing here where your neighbors will
Speaker 1: greet you with, you know, muffins when you move into
Speaker 1: the neighborhood that that has never happened before. And you
Speaker 1: look at what's happened to children during all this, particularly
Speaker 1: COVID children are really bad, brunt of a lot of
Speaker 1: it in terms of being not able to go to schools,
Speaker 1: having to force mass, missing those development milestones, falling behind
Speaker 1: in school, like forcing vaccines on them. And then you know,
Speaker 1: I know you've recently written about some climate zealas who
Speaker 1: are encouraging people not to have children. It almost seems
Speaker 1: like kids are under attack in America. Why is that?
Speaker 1: That's absolutely right, and I think we need to be
Speaker 1: so on guard for that because that is what's happening. Um,
Speaker 1: and I don't say this lightly. I really I've looked
Speaker 1: into this so much and it's it really is a
Speaker 1: targeting of children and family that is unprecedented in this country.
Speaker 1: And I think we need to take a really seriously.
Speaker 1: I mean the climate column that you mentioned, these climate
Speaker 1: zealots are saying, don't have too many kids because they're
Speaker 1: bad for the environment. And meanwhile, you know they're taking
Speaker 1: vacations on airplanes. You know that they're air conditioning in
Speaker 1: their house. You know they're probably flying private for all
Speaker 1: we know. Um And then they're being their lives and
Speaker 1: they're saying to us, you know, don't have kids. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, why don't you limit the way that you're
Speaker 1: living instead of limiting how many people we make? And
Speaker 1: when when they say that, it's always they always have children.
Speaker 1: It's always like they themselves have one child and they've
Speaker 1: decided that's the right amount and you shouldn't have anymore. UM.
Speaker 1: So I see all of this as one thing, as
Speaker 1: an attack on just the idea of family and on
Speaker 1: American children. I know you had recently tweeted about your
Speaker 1: son wanting to do a YouTube channel teaching other kids
Speaker 1: about history, which is so sweet. And innocent, um. But like,
Speaker 1: we do live in this weird social media age, so
Speaker 1: how hard is it to navigate that as a parent
Speaker 1: and you have just this this age that we live in.
Speaker 1: So it's funny because my my daughter, I'm much less
Speaker 1: worried about her, even though she's the pre teen um
Speaker 1: and she's the one that I think, you know, I
Speaker 1: should be worried about with social media, but she's got
Speaker 1: such a good head on her shoulders, and I really
Speaker 1: just don't see. She's not that interested in social media.
Speaker 1: She kind sees it as something like us old stud um,
Speaker 1: So so right right there, she's not that interested. But
Speaker 1: the middle son um, the one that you mentioned, he's
Speaker 1: really into history and he's nine years old. He doesn't
Speaker 1: have an outlet for it, so he hasn't met other
Speaker 1: kids who are like I want to talk about Napoleon,
Speaker 1: and I feel for him, and he's like the Internet
Speaker 1: it's right there, and I can meet all these people
Speaker 1: and I could, I could have these conversations with other kids.
Speaker 1: And it's scary because I want it for him. I
Speaker 1: want to give him this outlet, but I know I
Speaker 1: know the damage this causes. So it has been a
Speaker 1: point of you know, contention in our house where we
Speaker 1: haven't let him do it. We haven't let him start
Speaker 1: this YouTube channel. He keeps saying like, oh, it'll just
Speaker 1: be my voice, it won't be you know, a no
Speaker 1: video or anything like that, not his real name or
Speaker 1: anything like that. Um. But still I haven't been able
Speaker 1: to let him pull the trigger on it because I
Speaker 1: know what's out there, right, I know the kind of
Speaker 1: hateful comments that um I get or other people get,
Speaker 1: and I don't want my nine year old exposed to that.
Speaker 1: So it's been it's been a balancing act. Do you
Speaker 1: want to let them use the internet that that let
Speaker 1: them kind of like discover a whole new world, but
Speaker 1: also want to tap them from it? You know. Part
Speaker 1: of it is like, oh that's so sweet, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's challenging. Uh, you know. But what's weird though,
Speaker 1: is there really is you know, we kind of talked
Speaker 1: about the war on on kids, but really like this
Speaker 1: war on marriage, this war on family. Why do you
Speaker 1: why is the left so opposed to marriage and and
Speaker 1: and children and having a family. I really think it's
Speaker 1: a it's a sense of control. So you know, I
Speaker 1: was born in the Soviet Union, and one of the
Speaker 1: things you weren't allowed to have obviously in the Soviet
Speaker 1: Union was religion. And it's it's because if you have
Speaker 1: something else that you turn to, if you have your
Speaker 1: family that you turn to, this it can't be first.
Speaker 1: And I know it sounds crazy, but it's not crazy
Speaker 1: like that. There is an authoritarian streak through the left
Speaker 1: where they want you to focus on the state and
Speaker 1: they want you to belong to the state. So I
Speaker 1: really do think that the family and children and shoul
Speaker 1: appear with that because you know, a good you know
Speaker 1: subject will not have anything above the state. And that's
Speaker 1: what you know to talitarianism mean nothing above state. And
Speaker 1: you can't be that if you're a mother, and you
Speaker 1: can't be that if you're married, because you put other
Speaker 1: people first. So I really believe that's why I think
Speaker 1: that the people who have um you know, families or
Speaker 1: relationships are harder to control, and all of that is
Speaker 1: a way of limiting how many people we associate with
Speaker 1: outside of the prescribed state, you know, apparatus and Carol,
Speaker 1: I don't want to have kids and I'm not married.
Speaker 1: I'm very hard to control, so you can you imagine
Speaker 1: me with children and got oh, I know, got to
Speaker 1: help us all, you know. But also I you know,
Speaker 1: I am. I am on the lookout for a good
Speaker 1: match for Lisa Booth because I think you're phenomenal all
Speaker 1: and I would love to see married with children. I
Speaker 1: think you're going to be an incredible wife and an
Speaker 1: amazing mother. I need to find a very patient man.
Speaker 1: So you know, we're taking application guys. So you know,
Speaker 1: you talked about you know, I know your your family.
Speaker 1: You guys celebrate when you immigrated here to the United States.
Speaker 1: You're a mirror versity where we're trying to find ever
Speaker 1: ever written down. What's the date, Oh, July July, America,
Speaker 1: very yeah, julyne that's right. And looking at sort of
Speaker 1: where we are now with what happened during COVID. Also
Speaker 1: what we're learning with the Twitter files about this sort
Speaker 1: of collusion between government and big tech to silence UH
Speaker 1: speech in America, Like how you know, having your perspective
Speaker 1: of having come here, how free are we as a country?
Speaker 1: So remem for a few years ago where that story broke,
Speaker 1: how the i r S was, you know, how the
Speaker 1: government was using the I r S to target conservative
Speaker 1: groups that they don't like, that was such a moment
Speaker 1: in my Russian community, and I see Russian, but it's
Speaker 1: actually just it's all the ex Soviet republics, I know,
Speaker 1: you they just Russian anymore, Like you know, most my
Speaker 1: community were probably from Ukraine or Belarus or you know,
Speaker 1: Kazakhstan or any of the ex Soviet republics. Um. So
Speaker 1: my community heard that story and they were like, well, obviously,
Speaker 1: obviously they're using the i rs to target people they
Speaker 1: don't like. That makes so much sense. That's clearly what's
Speaker 1: happening here. And so it seems so um obvious to them.
Speaker 1: And yet like Americans are, you know, very upset about it,
Speaker 1: the obviously conservative Americans more so than anybody else. And
Speaker 1: they were shocked at that kind of behavior. And it's like,
Speaker 1: how much less shocked are we today? How much less
Speaker 1: shocked are we that the FBI was paying Twitter to
Speaker 1: be able to kind of operate however they wanted to.
Speaker 1: And it's sad and it's really scary to watch America
Speaker 1: go down this path. I still think we are the
Speaker 1: greatest hope for the world. I really do. I think
Speaker 1: there's nowhere else even comparable. And whenever I think about
Speaker 1: whenever anybody says America's over or America's you know, just
Speaker 1: forget it, it's done. I always think, like, there's nowhere
Speaker 1: else to go. So we have to fight these people here.
Speaker 1: We have to fight for this country here, and we
Speaker 1: have to win, because again, there's no Plan B. There's
Speaker 1: no other country where we can be like, oh, there,
Speaker 1: they will treat us fairly, and they will you know,
Speaker 1: be somewhere that we can live. There's nowhere else for
Speaker 1: us to go. List so we gotta fight for it here, Carol.
Speaker 1: I was reading this story and we covered it when
Speaker 1: I was on Fox over the weekend of the students
Speaker 1: at this private university who are occupying a campus building
Speaker 1: demanding that they're given all a's, And it just kind
Speaker 1: of speaks to this broader, you know, cultural rot that
Speaker 1: we're facing in the country, like this lack of consequences,
Speaker 1: this desire to have everything for free, just you know,
Speaker 1: just this broader cultural rod that I think we're all
Speaker 1: feeling as Americans right now. How do we fix that?
Speaker 1: So it has to start at home. I I can't
Speaker 1: imagine my children demanding an A for something that the
Speaker 1: ay didn't deserve. I cannot picture that at all, UM,
Speaker 1: but you know it is again back to Florida. I
Speaker 1: have seen a difference in the way kids are treated
Speaker 1: in Florida in schools, and they are saying New York UM.
Speaker 1: Like something simple like my daughter was chosen last year
Speaker 1: to take algebra in seventh grade, which is rare, and
Speaker 1: she was presented with this invitation in the middle of class,
Speaker 1: her and a couple of other kids, and I just
Speaker 1: feel like in New York it would have been like, well,
Speaker 1: it would be sent quietly to the parents, so nobody's
Speaker 1: feelings got hurt and you kind of have to start
Speaker 1: that that feeling of like not succeeding and that being
Speaker 1: okay early. I think kids need to understand that if
Speaker 1: you work hard, you will succeed at these things, and
Speaker 1: if you don't, then you won't UM, and that not
Speaker 1: everybody wins, and not everybody wins all the time at everything.
Speaker 1: So I love the idea, and maybe this exists in
Speaker 1: other places. I only have Florida, New York to compare
Speaker 1: it to UM, but I love the idea of kids
Speaker 1: kind of seeing who UM win a prize in class,
Speaker 1: or who has succeeded in you know, math or in
Speaker 1: science or something like that, and and wins kind of
Speaker 1: recognition for that, because that will lead to understanding and
Speaker 1: being accepting of the fact that not everybody wins in
Speaker 1: this participation trophy era that we are going through needs
Speaker 1: to end and we need to move on to um
Speaker 1: rewarding actual success by stormber. Like when I was learning
Speaker 1: to ride a bike, my grandfather who has now passed,
Speaker 1: taught me. And he's like a World War two guy,
Speaker 1: like navy, you know, toughest nails, grew up poor, pulled
Speaker 1: himself up from the bootstraps type type guy. And I
Speaker 1: fell off and was like profusely bleeding, and he like
Speaker 1: made me get on the bike and continue to learn.
Speaker 1: How do you know he was just like suck it up,
Speaker 1: like or what I mean, Like, I feel like we
Speaker 1: need a little bit more of that of just you know,
Speaker 1: suck it up. Butter Cup, Yeah, you don't have to
Speaker 1: get over it and you have to move on. Resiliency
Speaker 1: is so important. Um I think that, you know, kids
Speaker 1: are not taught how to be resilient or how to
Speaker 1: receive bad news or bad information. I just feel like
Speaker 1: they collapse when they do, and that is so damaging.
Speaker 1: It's just we're raising a generation that can't handle anything
Speaker 1: negative happening to them. And it's just there's so many
Speaker 1: memes and jokes about this, where you know, a Generation
Speaker 1: Z person will say that they like took to their
Speaker 1: bed after they got criticized at work, like a little bit.
Speaker 1: We can't live like that. We can't let this go on.
Speaker 1: Like resiliency is so important and teaching kids resilience has
Speaker 1: to be at a top priority for us as a culture. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, I worry we're gonna end up with
Speaker 1: surgeons who don't really know how to perform surgery or
Speaker 1: you know, and like pilots that don't know how to
Speaker 1: fly and eat, you know what I mean? Because yeah,
Speaker 1: but the but they fit like the hiring standards right,
Speaker 1: like they needed a woman, so they got a woman
Speaker 1: and now you know, hopefully she knows what she's doing,
Speaker 1: but maybe she doesn't. Why should have really cashed in
Speaker 1: when being a woman was like all the rage, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Well, now it's like we can't
Speaker 1: even define it. So you know, like now that that
Speaker 1: should kind of sale, but they way like during the
Speaker 1: meat too stuff, I should have just really been like
Speaker 1: I am a woman hearing me or give me an opportunity,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like that was the time
Speaker 1: to strike. And yeahs Now, women are the worst, like
Speaker 1: if we even defined them. Right now, we're in this
Speaker 1: like chaotic place where they can't even tell us what
Speaker 1: a woman is or what a man is. It's very bizarre.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. I mean, since woman obviously the rock bottom wars,
Speaker 1: everybody else is like second wars to that. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I'm definitely on the bottom, you know, of no no respect.
Speaker 1: First of all, how awesome as governor to Santa Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's pretty good, that guy. Huh, Like, I've never lived
Speaker 1: anywhere that I was proud of my leadership before. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been amazing watch in him in action. Um, it's
Speaker 1: I'm proud of my governor. I'm proud of the state
Speaker 1: that he has steered and the work that he has done.
Speaker 1: And I you know, I feel very thankful, very very
Speaker 1: thankful to live in such a sane place because of him. Well,
Speaker 1: he's also just brave and bold, which at a time
Speaker 1: of cowardice, you know, like why you know, we look
Speaker 1: at Republicans, especially on Capitol Hill, constantly selling out their base,
Speaker 1: selling out conservative why do you think Republicans, even more
Speaker 1: than the left sometimes seems to be, you know, full
Speaker 1: of a lot of cowards. What a good question. Um So,
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of things going on, But
Speaker 1: one of the main things is that the corporate media
Speaker 1: is mostly on the left, and they love seeing their
Speaker 1: name in print and they want to be liked, and
Speaker 1: it's just it's the kind of person that gets into
Speaker 1: politics tends to like flattery, and the media will give
Speaker 1: it to you if you do what they want, and
Speaker 1: they won't give it to you if you don't. So
Speaker 1: I really think those two things are intertwined. The idea that, um,
Speaker 1: these Republican politicians are looking for approval from a media
Speaker 1: that largely despises them, um, and they just won't accept that.
Speaker 1: They have to keep fighting for that positive mention in
Speaker 1: the New York Times or on the Washington Post. And
Speaker 1: it's hard to watch because I think it betrays us
Speaker 1: in so many ways. And I would love to see
Speaker 1: more bravery. I mean, one of the main things for
Speaker 1: me with this new house is I really want to
Speaker 1: see hearings about COVID nineteen response. But I feel like
Speaker 1: Republicans are just not going to go for it. They're
Speaker 1: not going to do it, and they're not going to
Speaker 1: hold people like Anthony Faucci accountable. And so when you
Speaker 1: talk about Ronda Santis is bravery. If he were in
Speaker 1: the house, you could see him confronting Faucci, right, You
Speaker 1: could see the kind of questions he would ask that
Speaker 1: would be smart and pointed and and really get to
Speaker 1: the bottom of things. But we just we don't have
Speaker 1: that kind of leadership in a lot of Congress, and
Speaker 1: it's disappointing. It is this appointing. And you had mentioned
Speaker 1: the media, and you know, one of the pillars obviously
Speaker 1: to living in a free society, if the most important,
Speaker 1: which is why the First Amendment is first, is the
Speaker 1: ability to speak freely, the ability to you know, have
Speaker 1: a free flow of information. And we have a media
Speaker 1: that is really a sort of engaging in a behavior
Speaker 1: that we see in like communist countries or authoritarian countries
Speaker 1: where there isn't this questioning of authority. They're you know,
Speaker 1: they're basically just propagandists. How what kind of impact do
Speaker 1: you think that's having on the country, and how concerned
Speaker 1: does that make you. It's one of my top concerns.
Speaker 1: Um I just think that the way that conservatives deal
Speaker 1: with the media is all wrong, Like we we are
Speaker 1: conservative media because we are conservatives in the media, but
Speaker 1: then they're not the liberal media or they're not the
Speaker 1: leftist media. I actually like using liberal media, even though
Speaker 1: I know like when I when I use it, people
Speaker 1: say like, oh, they're not liberal. You know, liberalism is
Speaker 1: something else. It's like, okay, but people know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying when I say liberal media. They're activists for the left,
Speaker 1: and I think that they need to be defined as
Speaker 1: such all the time. There was that piece recently in
Speaker 1: Semaphore about um Governor to Santis not sitting down with
Speaker 1: unfriendly press outlets so good, Why should he? Why should
Speaker 1: he sit down with the view Why should he sit
Speaker 1: down with any of these people who clearly hate him
Speaker 1: and want to destroy him and give them an interview
Speaker 1: for what um so? I think the Republicans and you know,
Speaker 1: in specifically, but conservatives in general need to have a
Speaker 1: different outlook on this media and they need to not
Speaker 1: treat them maybe not need to not get so excited
Speaker 1: when when the media is on their side briefly about
Speaker 1: something or they know they need when they highlight the
Speaker 1: New York Times like agreed with something that people in
Speaker 1: the right I've been saying all along. It's just it
Speaker 1: gives them more power, and it makes them seem like
Speaker 1: they're they're the you know, arbiters of truth, and there
Speaker 1: really really aren't. And they is a huge issue for
Speaker 1: our country that the media that it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: unbiased is not just biased, they're deeply biased. Their activists.
Speaker 1: They are the liberal media, and they have a perspective
Speaker 1: and they're trying to push an agenda. I we need
Speaker 1: to stop listening to them. I mean, that's the thing
Speaker 1: is it's all, you know, agenda driven, and it's not
Speaker 1: rooted in the truth. And there's also like no interest
Speaker 1: in getting to the truth. As we saw during COVID,
Speaker 1: everyone was just pushing the same narrative without question. Uh
Speaker 1: So it is sort of a scary time that we're in.
Speaker 1: And then also you know, now they're they've also been
Speaker 1: trying to chip away at the Second Amendment, which is
Speaker 1: also concerning the Second Amendment. Though I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel like things have shifted in the country. I think
Speaker 1: like the George Floyd rights were a major shift of this,
Speaker 1: But I think like I keep seeing and especially I
Speaker 1: see this a lot in my own Jewish community, UM,
Speaker 1: where I feel like gun ownership and gun rights have
Speaker 1: become such a mainstream for everybody issue, and I it
Speaker 1: has so much more support now than I ever did before.
Speaker 1: So the media might be trying to dial it back,
Speaker 1: but it's too late that you know, the horse has
Speaker 1: left the barn and Americans have realized that gun ownership
Speaker 1: is a good thing for them. Why do you think,
Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of us or I
Speaker 1: know I was you know, overly confident heading into the
Speaker 1: mid term elections. I like to joke around that I
Speaker 1: got out of the political prognosticating game after this last
Speaker 1: mid term elections. But was it the mail and ballot thing?
Speaker 1: Was it messages? Why did uh we end up coming
Speaker 1: up short when it comes to the Senate? Um? So,
Speaker 1: and I know you know you and I are on
Speaker 1: a on a group chat where we talked about this
Speaker 1: so much. So. UM the races were really close. They
Speaker 1: could have gone either way. But I think that one
Speaker 1: of the things that I saw coming that I thought
Speaker 1: was a problem was that a lot of the candidates
Speaker 1: were running on biography, and if I could send a
Speaker 1: message to all Republican politicals out there. Biography never wins,
Speaker 1: never wins, nobody cares who you are, Like fantastic, you
Speaker 1: have an amazing life story. Great, that's not gonna win you.
Speaker 1: An election that does not win, it's like, what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do? So like dr Oz, I mean, I
Speaker 1: actually thought he was not a bad candidate. Um. I
Speaker 1: know that a lot of people didn't like him. He's
Speaker 1: sort of a more liberal Republican and then he had
Speaker 1: Trump endorsee and to other people who he Trump hated him,
Speaker 1: and it's so, you know whatever, But he was running
Speaker 1: so hard on who he is that I really didn't
Speaker 1: know what he was going to do. And that should
Speaker 1: have been a walk, like that should have been a
Speaker 1: race that was easily one. Um. Blake Masters I think
Speaker 1: is fantastic. I really think he's really great. But again,
Speaker 1: a lot of biography, a lot of like who he
Speaker 1: is instead of what he will do. UM. So I
Speaker 1: saw a lot of this coming where I didn't like
Speaker 1: the way the campaigns were being run. And it's hard
Speaker 1: to criticize the candidates in the moment, but I did.
Speaker 1: I tweeted about this um at the time, saying, like
Speaker 1: I don't see I don't see not not is NEOs issues.
Speaker 1: They would talk about the issues, yes, but what are
Speaker 1: you going to do? Why should the person leave their
Speaker 1: house and go vote for you? So that's one thing.
Speaker 1: I think that the biography overwhelmed um a lot of
Speaker 1: the action. But then the second thing is that their
Speaker 1: Democrats have become these expert ballot harvesters and places like Arizona,
Speaker 1: and unless Republicans want to keep losing, they have to
Speaker 1: catch up with that. There's no other option. Making it
Speaker 1: illegal would be fantastic. I think that ballot harvesting should
Speaker 1: be illegal, um, but it's not. It's not illegal. So
Speaker 1: unless we're gonna unless Republicans are going to fight to
Speaker 1: make it illegal and and take that on and really
Speaker 1: do something about it and win, which is going to
Speaker 1: be a tough thing, they need to just get in
Speaker 1: on the game. Um. There's so many options for Republicans
Speaker 1: to do exactly the same kind of ballot harvesting that
Speaker 1: the Democrats have been doing. And we need to get
Speaker 1: over the idea that elections only happen on one day,
Speaker 1: because they're not happening that way in so many places
Speaker 1: across the country where Republicans need to win. It's sad,
Speaker 1: but it's almost an acceptance of we don't have fair
Speaker 1: elections anywhere it in terms of like the system is
Speaker 1: rigged against us. When we saw what Democrats did in
Speaker 1: with mail ballots. We see the FBI, including with big tech,
Speaker 1: to try to silence conservatives in the sense or information
Speaker 1: that the public sees before elections. So it's almost like
Speaker 1: we have no room for error. I mean like you're
Speaker 1: essentially fighting a fight with one arm tied behind your back.
Speaker 1: You know, you've get the media against us. It's like
Speaker 1: we have to almost be perfect in our execution to
Speaker 1: win now, right, But I think Pulplicans need to internalize
Speaker 1: that and just go do it because they like the
Speaker 1: more the party complains about how things are stacked against them,
Speaker 1: and they are you're absolutely right, um, but that won't win,
Speaker 1: and so if the point is to win, they have
Speaker 1: to just jump in and behave the same way. It sucks,
Speaker 1: it does, you know. It's like you want elections to
Speaker 1: be run fairly and and in a specific way the
Speaker 1: way that you know, showing I D and only the
Speaker 1: go on one day and etcetera, and not having all
Speaker 1: these ways like mail in ballot which is so easily corrupted. Um,
Speaker 1: but it's not that that. Again, that ship is sailed,
Speaker 1: and it's like Reblicans have to just accept that and
Speaker 1: and behave accordingly. They have to fight back accordingly, otherwise
Speaker 1: they're gonna keep losing. And it's getting to where you
Speaker 1: don't want the Democrats that you have an even bigger
Speaker 1: advantage if you don't kind of get into this game now.
Speaker 1: Also worry about underestimating Joe Biden, because you know, we
Speaker 1: we are fighting a fight with one arm behind her back,
Speaker 1: and he was able to hide in the basement ahead
Speaker 1: of election in a way that no Republican could ever do. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I I worry about you know, obviously it's
Speaker 1: a ship show and he's crazy and dumb and a
Speaker 1: liar and you know, all these different things, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's a tougher fight now. Yeah. Look, I've been
Speaker 1: unpopular at parties for the last two years where people
Speaker 1: are like, who do you think is gonna win in
Speaker 1: two And I say Joe Biden because I don't see,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't see what changes on the ground.
Speaker 1: I don't see the changes the Republicans are making to
Speaker 1: make a Republican candidate possible. Um, you know, I would
Speaker 1: love to say that oh Ron de Santis will be
Speaker 1: able to overcome these deficiencies that the Republican Party has
Speaker 1: kind of forced in these states. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's necessarily possible for the next election.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see the Republican Party get up, you know,
Speaker 1: off its ask because I know we're a lot of
Speaker 1: use asks here, um and and get to work and
Speaker 1: get to work and go fight. No I said ship show,
Speaker 1: So but I the times I have first I hear it, right,
Speaker 1: I love don't do that that was your first mistake.
Speaker 1: I hope that we approached differently. And I know that
Speaker 1: you know her meet Dylan is running for our instituture woman,
Speaker 1: and uh, I think that you know they're they're do
Speaker 1: need to be some changes in the Republican Party in
Speaker 1: terms of leadership, in the way that our ground game
Speaker 1: works and and just how we approach elections. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the ground game is number one priority for the
Speaker 1: party leadership to work on. And you know, so much
Speaker 1: of its personality like who's with who, Rona is with Trump,
Speaker 1: this one's with this one. It's just like it shouldn't
Speaker 1: be like that. It should be like who could get
Speaker 1: the job done, who could get the most votes into
Speaker 1: the box at the end of the election day. And
Speaker 1: that's really what we're looking for here. We're not like
Speaker 1: trying to reinvent the wheel. It's like who can get
Speaker 1: the people to the polls? And um, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think the idea is that anybody who hasn't been
Speaker 1: able to do it thus far probably can't do it
Speaker 1: going forward, So maybe time for somebody new. And it
Speaker 1: don't make it a personality thing. It doesn't mean you
Speaker 1: have to hate these people. It doesn't mean you have
Speaker 1: to align with these people versus those people. I find
Speaker 1: all that really ridiculous. I think we need to just
Speaker 1: get somebody in who can win. Also, just like extremely
Speaker 1: discipline and execution, because the game has changed. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've were in politics like you used to be able
Speaker 1: to do with a candidate. You could change the momentum
Speaker 1: of an election, like for instance, that awful debate with
Speaker 1: John Fetterman where he said good night before the debate started,
Speaker 1: would have in the past reshaped an election. However, at
Speaker 1: that point, more than half of the mail and ballots
Speaker 1: had already been sent in, so it's it's almost impossible
Speaker 1: to change. It's it's basically just trying to drive out
Speaker 1: ballots as early as you can, right. And also, I
Speaker 1: just feel like the party needs to be more nimble.
Speaker 1: Like one of the things that happened, um, you know
Speaker 1: recently or like I think it happened right before the election. Um,
Speaker 1: but Chuck Schumer said that we need to legalize every
Speaker 1: single illegal immigrant that's in the country, not just like
Speaker 1: dreamers or something, but everybody who's here illegally. That should
Speaker 1: have been a seven, you know, add from the rn C. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe you're out of money for TV. Put it on
Speaker 1: the internet, make it run on every you know page
Speaker 1: that anybody comes across. I think people just need to hear, like, look,
Speaker 1: here's the Senate majority leader are saying that he wants
Speaker 1: to legalize every single person who's in the country illegally.
Speaker 1: John Futterman is a vote for this? Do you want this?
Speaker 1: And I think that it just they're not nimble enough.
Speaker 1: They cannot respond quickly enough to changes or news that happens.
Speaker 1: And that was a big one for me where I
Speaker 1: thought this could have been something and the fact that
Speaker 1: they just didn't do anything on it, and the fact
Speaker 1: that like, again, what did doctor Oz stand for? What
Speaker 1: was his pitch? I follow politics very closely, and I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I mean, I think there was a
Speaker 1: lack of messaging for you know, a lot of Canada,
Speaker 1: and I think to like one thing that I do
Speaker 1: think that makes to Santa successful here in Florida is
Speaker 1: that you know that he believes what he says. And
Speaker 1: I think the problem with a lot of candidates today
Speaker 1: and the Republican Party is like, I don't even know
Speaker 1: if they know what they believe, you know what I mean, right,
Speaker 1: They can't. They can't verbalize what it is they're going
Speaker 1: to do, and if they can't, then nobody believes them.
Speaker 1: Nobody believes somebody who can't like state specifically what they're
Speaker 1: what they're for, and what they believe. It's just it's
Speaker 1: it's a you know, when we talk about like a
Speaker 1: problem of candidates, it's not just that it's like you
Speaker 1: can have a good candidate, you can have somebody that
Speaker 1: looks good or sounds good or whatever, but if they're
Speaker 1: not kind of true, if they don't really believe what
Speaker 1: they're saying, if they're just running for some you know,
Speaker 1: extra reason that isn't like they want to fight for
Speaker 1: their beliefs. It's really hard to win. Um. I have
Speaker 1: never seen a candidate win who kind of wasn't like
Speaker 1: really true to themselves. And I had I've worked for
Speaker 1: candidates who were like I'd say, what's your education platform
Speaker 1: and they'd be like, I don't know, write me one.
Speaker 1: And those candidates do not win. They just don't well.
Speaker 1: Even with TV. I met with Roger als like forever ago,
Speaker 1: and he told me that like authenticity is everything, and
Speaker 1: you know, and media like people every yeah, like people
Speaker 1: need to know that you are the same person in
Speaker 1: front of a microphone that you are behind it, you know,
Speaker 1: like or when you're off the mic. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like you just people need to know that you are
Speaker 1: who you say you are exactly. And for candidates that
Speaker 1: goes just doubly so like people get really invested in
Speaker 1: politics and they you know, come to see this person
Speaker 1: that's running as you know, not even not a friend
Speaker 1: but close, and they need to believe that you are
Speaker 1: who you say you are. And again, voting it's getting
Speaker 1: easier now, obviously with all this ballot harvesting and Maile
Speaker 1: at voting. But it's it's it's leaving your house, going somewhere,
Speaker 1: waiting on a line, like doing it, believing that it matters.
Speaker 1: And if it does matter, then then people will do it.
Speaker 1: But you need to you need to give them that
Speaker 1: that thing to hold on to, to show that it
Speaker 1: will matter. It does matter. I will do something with
Speaker 1: this vote that you're giving me, Carol. I love you,
Speaker 1: my friend. Anything else you want to leave us with
Speaker 1: before we go, Lisa Booth is the best. I'm taking
Speaker 1: applications for very nice, young eligible men. Please send them
Speaker 1: my way. I will, I will, you know, stift through
Speaker 1: them and pass the good ones onto my Lisa. Well,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that you're a good friend. I appreciate you
Speaker 1: joined the show, love you, looking forward to seeing you
Speaker 1: soon too. So that was my friend, Carol marko Witz.
Speaker 1: You can find her work in the New York Post.
Speaker 1: There's a column there she writes about a bunch of
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