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Speaker 1: So tune in Carol mark Witz Co marc O. Wits

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Speaker 1: to living in a free society, if the most important,

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Speaker 1: which is why the First Amendment is first, is the

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Speaker 1: ability to speak freely, the ability to you know, have

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Speaker 1: a free flow of information. And we have a media

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Speaker 1: that is really a sort of engaging in a behavior

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Speaker 1: that we see in like communist countries or authoritarian countries

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Speaker 1: where there isn't this questioning of authority. They're you know,

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Speaker 1: they're basically just propagandists. How what kind of impact do

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Speaker 1: you think that's having on the country, and how concerned

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Speaker 1: does that make you. It's one of my top concerns.

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Speaker 1: Um I just think that the way that conservatives deal

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Speaker 1: with the media is all wrong, Like we we are

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Speaker 1: conservative media because we are conservatives in the media, but

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Speaker 1: then they're not the liberal media or they're not the

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Speaker 1: leftist media. I actually like using liberal media, even though

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Speaker 1: I know like when I when I use it, people

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Speaker 1: say like, oh, they're not liberal. You know, liberalism is

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Speaker 1: something else. It's like, okay, but people know what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying when I say liberal media. They're activists for the left,

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Speaker 1: and I think that they need to be defined as

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Speaker 1: such all the time. There was that piece recently in

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Speaker 1: Semaphore about um Governor to Santis not sitting down with

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Speaker 1: unfriendly press outlets so good, Why should he? Why should

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Speaker 1: he sit down with the view Why should he sit

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Speaker 1: down with any of these people who clearly hate him

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Speaker 1: and want to destroy him and give them an interview

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Speaker 1: for what um so? I think the Republicans and you know,

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Speaker 1: in specifically, but conservatives in general need to have a

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Speaker 1: different outlook on this media and they need to not

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Speaker 1: treat them maybe not need to not get so excited

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Speaker 1: when when the media is on their side briefly about

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Speaker 1: something or they know they need when they highlight the

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Speaker 1: New York Times like agreed with something that people in

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Speaker 1: the right I've been saying all along. It's just it

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Speaker 1: gives them more power, and it makes them seem like

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Speaker 1: they're they're the you know, arbiters of truth, and there

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Speaker 1: really really aren't. And they is a huge issue for

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Speaker 1: our country that the media that it's supposed to be

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Speaker 1: unbiased is not just biased, they're deeply biased. Their activists.

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Speaker 1: They are the liberal media, and they have a perspective

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Speaker 1: and they're trying to push an agenda. I we need

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Speaker 1: to stop listening to them. I mean, that's the thing

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Speaker 1: is it's all, you know, agenda driven, and it's not

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Speaker 1: rooted in the truth. And there's also like no interest

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Speaker 1: in getting to the truth. As we saw during COVID,

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Speaker 1: everyone was just pushing the same narrative without question. Uh

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Speaker 1: So it is sort of a scary time that we're in.

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Speaker 1: And then also you know, now they're they've also been

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Speaker 1: trying to chip away at the Second Amendment, which is

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Speaker 1: also concerning the Second Amendment. Though I feel like I

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Speaker 1: feel like things have shifted in the country. I think

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Speaker 1: like the George Floyd rights were a major shift of this,

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Speaker 1: But I think like I keep seeing and especially I

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Speaker 1: see this a lot in my own Jewish community, UM,

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Speaker 1: where I feel like gun ownership and gun rights have

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Speaker 1: become such a mainstream for everybody issue, and I it

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Speaker 1: has so much more support now than I ever did before.

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Speaker 1: So the media might be trying to dial it back,

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Speaker 1: but it's too late that you know, the horse has

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Speaker 1: left the barn and Americans have realized that gun ownership

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Speaker 1: is a good thing for them. Why do you think,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think a lot of us or I

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Speaker 1: know I was you know, overly confident heading into the

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Speaker 1: mid term elections. I like to joke around that I

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Speaker 1: got out of the political prognosticating game after this last

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Speaker 1: mid term elections. But was it the mail and ballot thing?

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Speaker 1: Was it messages? Why did uh we end up coming

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Speaker 1: up short when it comes to the Senate? Um? So,

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Speaker 1: and I know you know you and I are on

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Speaker 1: a on a group chat where we talked about this

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Speaker 1: so much. So. UM the races were really close. They

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Speaker 1: could have gone either way. But I think that one

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Speaker 1: of the things that I saw coming that I thought

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Speaker 1: was a problem was that a lot of the candidates

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Speaker 1: were running on biography, and if I could send a

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Speaker 1: message to all Republican politicals out there. Biography never wins,

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Speaker 1: never wins, nobody cares who you are, Like fantastic, you

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Speaker 1: have an amazing life story. Great, that's not gonna win you.

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Speaker 1: An election that does not win, it's like, what are

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Speaker 1: you gonna do? So like dr Oz, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: actually thought he was not a bad candidate. Um. I

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Speaker 1: know that a lot of people didn't like him. He's

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Speaker 1: sort of a more liberal Republican and then he had

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Speaker 1: Trump endorsee and to other people who he Trump hated him,

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Speaker 1: and it's so, you know whatever, But he was running

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Speaker 1: so hard on who he is that I really didn't

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Speaker 1: know what he was going to do. And that should

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Speaker 1: have been a walk, like that should have been a

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Speaker 1: race that was easily one. Um. Blake Masters I think

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Speaker 1: is fantastic. I really think he's really great. But again,

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Speaker 1: a lot of biography, a lot of like who he

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Speaker 1: is instead of what he will do. UM. So I

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Speaker 1: saw a lot of this coming where I didn't like

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Speaker 1: the way the campaigns were being run. And it's hard

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Speaker 1: to criticize the candidates in the moment, but I did.

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Speaker 1: I tweeted about this um at the time, saying, like

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Speaker 1: I don't see I don't see not not is NEOs issues.

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Speaker 1: They would talk about the issues, yes, but what are

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Speaker 1: you going to do? Why should the person leave their

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Speaker 1: house and go vote for you? So that's one thing.

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Speaker 1: I think that the biography overwhelmed um a lot of

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Speaker 1: the action. But then the second thing is that their

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Speaker 1: Democrats have become these expert ballot harvesters and places like Arizona,

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Speaker 1: and unless Republicans want to keep losing, they have to

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Speaker 1: catch up with that. There's no other option. Making it

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Speaker 1: illegal would be fantastic. I think that ballot harvesting should

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Speaker 1: be illegal, um, but it's not. It's not illegal. So

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Speaker 1: unless we're gonna unless Republicans are going to fight to

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Speaker 1: make it illegal and and take that on and really

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Speaker 1: do something about it and win, which is going to

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Speaker 1: be a tough thing, they need to just get in

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Speaker 1: on the game. Um. There's so many options for Republicans

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Speaker 1: to do exactly the same kind of ballot harvesting that

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Speaker 1: the Democrats have been doing. And we need to get

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Speaker 1: over the idea that elections only happen on one day,

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Speaker 1: because they're not happening that way in so many places

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Speaker 1: across the country where Republicans need to win. It's sad,

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Speaker 1: but it's almost an acceptance of we don't have fair

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Speaker 1: elections anywhere it in terms of like the system is

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Speaker 1: rigged against us. When we saw what Democrats did in

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Speaker 1: with mail ballots. We see the FBI, including with big tech,

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Speaker 1: to try to silence conservatives in the sense or information

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Speaker 1: that the public sees before elections. So it's almost like

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Speaker 1: we have no room for error. I mean like you're

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Speaker 1: essentially fighting a fight with one arm tied behind your back.

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Speaker 1: You know, you've get the media against us. It's like

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Speaker 1: we have to almost be perfect in our execution to

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Speaker 1: win now, right, But I think Pulplicans need to internalize

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Speaker 1: that and just go do it because they like the

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Speaker 1: more the party complains about how things are stacked against them,

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Speaker 1: and they are you're absolutely right, um, but that won't win,

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Speaker 1: and so if the point is to win, they have

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Speaker 1: to just jump in and behave the same way. It sucks,

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Speaker 1: it does, you know. It's like you want elections to

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Speaker 1: be run fairly and and in a specific way the

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Speaker 1: way that you know, showing I D and only the

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Speaker 1: go on one day and etcetera, and not having all

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Speaker 1: these ways like mail in ballot which is so easily corrupted. Um,

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Speaker 1: but it's not that that. Again, that ship is sailed,

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Speaker 1: and it's like Reblicans have to just accept that and

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Speaker 1: and behave accordingly. They have to fight back accordingly, otherwise

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Speaker 1: they're gonna keep losing. And it's getting to where you

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Speaker 1: don't want the Democrats that you have an even bigger

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Speaker 1: advantage if you don't kind of get into this game now.

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Speaker 1: Also worry about underestimating Joe Biden, because you know, we

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Speaker 1: we are fighting a fight with one arm behind her back,

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Speaker 1: and he was able to hide in the basement ahead

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Speaker 1: of election in a way that no Republican could ever do. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, I I worry about you know, obviously it's

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Speaker 1: a ship show and he's crazy and dumb and a

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Speaker 1: liar and you know, all these different things, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a tougher fight now. Yeah. Look, I've been

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Speaker 1: unpopular at parties for the last two years where people

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Speaker 1: are like, who do you think is gonna win in

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Speaker 1: two And I say Joe Biden because I don't see,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't see what changes on the ground.

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Speaker 1: I don't see the changes the Republicans are making to

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Speaker 1: make a Republican candidate possible. Um, you know, I would

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Speaker 1: love to say that oh Ron de Santis will be

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Speaker 1: able to overcome these deficiencies that the Republican Party has

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Speaker 1: kind of forced in these states. But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that's necessarily possible for the next election.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see the Republican Party get up, you know,

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Speaker 1: off its ask because I know we're a lot of

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Speaker 1: use asks here, um and and get to work and

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Speaker 1: get to work and go fight. No I said ship show,

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Speaker 1: So but I the times I have first I hear it, right,

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Speaker 1: I love don't do that that was your first mistake.

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Speaker 1: I hope that we approached differently. And I know that

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Speaker 1: you know her meet Dylan is running for our instituture woman,

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Speaker 1: and uh, I think that you know they're they're do

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Speaker 1: need to be some changes in the Republican Party in

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Speaker 1: terms of leadership, in the way that our ground game

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Speaker 1: works and and just how we approach elections. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think the ground game is number one priority for the

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Speaker 1: party leadership to work on. And you know, so much

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Speaker 1: of its personality like who's with who, Rona is with Trump,

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Speaker 1: this one's with this one. It's just like it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be like that. It should be like who could get

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Speaker 1: the job done, who could get the most votes into

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Speaker 1: the box at the end of the election day. And

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Speaker 1: that's really what we're looking for here. We're not like

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Speaker 1: trying to reinvent the wheel. It's like who can get

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Speaker 1: the people to the polls? And um, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think the idea is that anybody who hasn't been

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Speaker 1: able to do it thus far probably can't do it

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Speaker 1: going forward, So maybe time for somebody new. And it

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Speaker 1: don't make it a personality thing. It doesn't mean you

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Speaker 1: have to hate these people. It doesn't mean you have

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Speaker 1: to align with these people versus those people. I find

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Speaker 1: all that really ridiculous. I think we need to just

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Speaker 1: get somebody in who can win. Also, just like extremely

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Speaker 1: discipline and execution, because the game has changed. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've were in politics like you used to be able

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Speaker 1: to do with a candidate. You could change the momentum

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Speaker 1: of an election, like for instance, that awful debate with

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Speaker 1: John Fetterman where he said good night before the debate started,

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Speaker 1: would have in the past reshaped an election. However, at

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Speaker 1: that point, more than half of the mail and ballots

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Speaker 1: had already been sent in, so it's it's almost impossible

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Speaker 1: to change. It's it's basically just trying to drive out

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Speaker 1: ballots as early as you can, right. And also, I

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Speaker 1: just feel like the party needs to be more nimble.

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Speaker 1: Like one of the things that happened, um, you know

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Speaker 1: recently or like I think it happened right before the election. Um,

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Speaker 1: but Chuck Schumer said that we need to legalize every

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Speaker 1: single illegal immigrant that's in the country, not just like

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Speaker 1: dreamers or something, but everybody who's here illegally. That should

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Speaker 1: have been a seven, you know, add from the rn C. Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe you're out of money for TV. Put it on

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Speaker 1: the internet, make it run on every you know page

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Speaker 1: that anybody comes across. I think people just need to hear, like, look,

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Speaker 1: here's the Senate majority leader are saying that he wants

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Speaker 1: to legalize every single person who's in the country illegally.

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Speaker 1: John Futterman is a vote for this? Do you want this?

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Speaker 1: And I think that it just they're not nimble enough.

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Speaker 1: They cannot respond quickly enough to changes or news that happens.

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Speaker 1: And that was a big one for me where I

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Speaker 1: thought this could have been something and the fact that

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Speaker 1: they just didn't do anything on it, and the fact

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Speaker 1: that like, again, what did doctor Oz stand for? What

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Speaker 1: was his pitch? I follow politics very closely, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I mean, I think there was a

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Speaker 1: lack of messaging for you know, a lot of Canada,

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Speaker 1: and I think to like one thing that I do

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Speaker 1: think that makes to Santa successful here in Florida is

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Speaker 1: that you know that he believes what he says. And

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Speaker 1: I think the problem with a lot of candidates today

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Speaker 1: and the Republican Party is like, I don't even know

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Speaker 1: if they know what they believe, you know what I mean, right,

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Speaker 1: They can't. They can't verbalize what it is they're going

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Speaker 1: to do, and if they can't, then nobody believes them.

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Speaker 1: Nobody believes somebody who can't like state specifically what they're

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Speaker 1: what they're for, and what they believe. It's just it's

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Speaker 1: it's a you know, when we talk about like a

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Speaker 1: problem of candidates, it's not just that it's like you

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Speaker 1: can have a good candidate, you can have somebody that

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Speaker 1: looks good or sounds good or whatever, but if they're

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Speaker 1: not kind of true, if they don't really believe what

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Speaker 1: they're saying, if they're just running for some you know,

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Speaker 1: extra reason that isn't like they want to fight for

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Speaker 1: their beliefs. It's really hard to win. Um. I have

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Speaker 1: never seen a candidate win who kind of wasn't like

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Speaker 1: really true to themselves. And I had I've worked for

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Speaker 1: candidates who were like I'd say, what's your education platform

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Speaker 1: and they'd be like, I don't know, write me one.

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Speaker 1: And those candidates do not win. They just don't well.

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Speaker 1: Even with TV. I met with Roger als like forever ago,

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Speaker 1: and he told me that like authenticity is everything, and

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Speaker 1: you know, and media like people every yeah, like people

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Speaker 1: need to know that you are the same person in

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Speaker 1: front of a microphone that you are behind it, you know,

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Speaker 1: like or when you're off the mic. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: like you just people need to know that you are

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Speaker 1: who you say you are exactly. And for candidates that

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Speaker 1: goes just doubly so like people get really invested in

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Speaker 1: politics and they you know, come to see this person

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Speaker 1: that's running as you know, not even not a friend

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Speaker 1: but close, and they need to believe that you are

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Speaker 1: who you say you are. And again, voting it's getting

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Speaker 1: easier now, obviously with all this ballot harvesting and Maile

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Speaker 1: at voting. But it's it's it's leaving your house, going somewhere,

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Speaker 1: waiting on a line, like doing it, believing that it matters.

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Speaker 1: And if it does matter, then then people will do it.

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Speaker 1: But you need to you need to give them that

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Speaker 1: that thing to hold on to, to show that it

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Speaker 1: will matter. It does matter. I will do something with

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Speaker 1: this vote that you're giving me, Carol. I love you,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Anything else you want to leave us with

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Speaker 1: before we go, Lisa Booth is the best. I'm taking

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Speaker 1: applications for very nice, young eligible men. Please send them

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Speaker 1: my way. I will, I will, you know, stift through

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Speaker 1: them and pass the good ones onto my Lisa. Well,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that you're a good friend. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: joined the show, love you, looking forward to seeing you

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Speaker 1: soon too. So that was my friend, Carol marko Witz.

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Speaker 1: You can find her work in the New York Post.

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Speaker 1: There's a column there she writes about a bunch of

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Speaker 1: smart things, politics, family, children. The list goes on in

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Speaker 1: that columns of the New York Post. Also writes for

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Speaker 1: Fox News, and you can see her on TV quite

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Speaker 1: a bit as well. I want to thank you guys

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Speaker 1: at home for listening as always every Monday and Thursday,

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Speaker 1: but you can listen throughout the week. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank John Castle if I produced her, for putting the

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