WEBVTT - Is quitting smoking contagious?

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff you should know

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<v Speaker 1>from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. Chuck Bryant's here. I'm here Josh as always,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Josh Clark, So thank you for joining us. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you doing, Chuck? I'm doing good man. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of crawling out of my skin a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell. And I know why. Yeah, I could.

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<v Speaker 1>I could really go for a smoke. Actually yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to admit it, but yeah, I'm I'm a smoker.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm a big time, heavy, heavy smoker. Have been

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<v Speaker 1>doing it for many, many years. That's what gives me

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<v Speaker 1>this thick, lustrous voice. Um made for radio. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And and as Chuck and most of the other people

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<v Speaker 1>in the office, no, uh, if I could smoke in

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<v Speaker 1>my cubicle, I would do so constantly, right, Like, It's

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how I wish it was the fifties. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because not only could I smoke, I could also drink

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<v Speaker 1>at work as well, which you know, yeah, yeah, it'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like a madman. As you've mentioned, you like, right,

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<v Speaker 1>great show. So since I can't smoke in my cubicle.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to pop downstairs, you know, seven eight times

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<v Speaker 1>an hour, UM, which I understand. People in the airline

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<v Speaker 1>industry you have to do as well. Now, UM, the

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<v Speaker 1>the f A A band, the use of UM. This

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<v Speaker 1>this smoking cessation drug called the verenda cline better known

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<v Speaker 1>as shantics shantics, Yes, yes, UM, I always call it

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<v Speaker 1>shaviks for some reason. I don't know if you knew that. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And And basically, if you're an air traffic controller or

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<v Speaker 1>a pilot, UM, you are doomed to a life as

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<v Speaker 1>a smoker because at the very least you can't use verendacline.

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<v Speaker 1>Reports started trickling in that some people were suffering psychotic

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<v Speaker 1>breaks UM epilepsy seizures. I've heard it could make you suicidal,

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<v Speaker 1>suicidal thoughts, and I gotta tell you that and and

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<v Speaker 1>this this is linked hasn't been proven obviously, UM. Disclaimer disclaimer, UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But the uh that the the last thing you want

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<v Speaker 1>in an airline pilot is suicidal tendencies. You know, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you're gonna go down, you might as well take

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<v Speaker 1>the whole plane with you. As you know, that's my

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<v Speaker 1>my worst way to die. Plane crash, so um, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>in the airline industry that's either controlling planes or driving

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<v Speaker 1>them is not allowed to take very client anymore. And UM,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're they're investigating it because it's a brand new

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<v Speaker 1>uh class of drugs. It's not like any other drug

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<v Speaker 1>on the market, and it targets UM these nicotinic receptors

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<v Speaker 1>which are like really sensitive on the brain, UM, and

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<v Speaker 1>they basically amplify other neurotransmitters. So if you are drinking um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, an alcoholic beverage, uh, the you want to smoke? Right.

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why it's there's a Kansas State study that

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<v Speaker 1>just came out that's just that's because nicotine. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>so much addicted to the direct effects that nicotine has

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<v Speaker 1>on you, you're addicted to the accompanying effects that has.

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<v Speaker 1>It turns up the pleasure that you get and right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which actually provides a a lot of UM foundation for

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<v Speaker 1>Newport's Alive with Pleasure ad campaign. I wonder if they

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<v Speaker 1>knew that back then or else if they were just

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<v Speaker 1>shooting in the dark and just happened to hit the target.

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<v Speaker 1>Will smoking definitely makes you feel better to a certain degree, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it does? We should probably tell everybody how smoking works. Right. Uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been right, I've been writing. I've been writing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about smoking lately, so I've I've got smoking on

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<v Speaker 1>the brain for sure. Okay, Well that's funny because that's

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<v Speaker 1>where smoking has its effect, right, the nicotine receptors. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the nicotinic receptors, but also um uh in a very

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<v Speaker 1>standard way. What we know about smoking is is that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>it activates what the colinergic Yeah, pathways. That's the best

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<v Speaker 1>way I can say it. You know, colinergic, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go with colinergic. Um. If you know, the correct pronunciation

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<v Speaker 1>is world, keep it to yourself. Um. So, So nicotine

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<v Speaker 1>activates this uh. And it's a pathway that transmits a

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<v Speaker 1>set of acetal colwine, right, which is responsible for the

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<v Speaker 1>parasympathetic nervous system, which does what chuck the opposite of

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<v Speaker 1>what you knew it was going to come to this

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<v Speaker 1>sooner or later. It always the key to the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>the theory of everything. So basically, um, this stuff makes

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<v Speaker 1>you sharper, It makes you feel focused, but also calm

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Right. So that's that's one effect. The problem

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<v Speaker 1>is is that um, when you when you have these

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<v Speaker 1>pathways damaged, it can lead to Alzheimer's because this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is in charge of memory and other cognitive functions. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so smoking by proxy could arguably lead to Alzheimer's since

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<v Speaker 1>it would overuse these pathways. The same thing goes with dopamine.

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<v Speaker 1>Openmine is in the reward pathways your brain, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they reinforce things that help you survive, like you want

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<v Speaker 1>to eat, you want to sleep. Yeah, that's that's how

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<v Speaker 1>we learn behavior, right right, And basically it just stimulates

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<v Speaker 1>pleasant feelings. I'm glad we don't have a punishment system

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<v Speaker 1>in our brain. I'll bet that would hurt punishment pathway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly, Yeah, exactly, I've got that going on. Mine's

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<v Speaker 1>highly acute and well developed. Uh yeah. It also increases endorphins.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you know a little something about endorphins. I

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<v Speaker 1>I want to tell you about endorphins, chuck. Um. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>they're the body's pain killer, natural painkiller, UM and and

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<v Speaker 1>it's triggered by stress or pain. Also, sex actually triggers

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<v Speaker 1>the release of endorphins and UM. When you have a

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<v Speaker 1>rush of them, uh, you you get kind of high,

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<v Speaker 1>you get euphoric. This is what's responsible for the runners high,

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<v Speaker 1>which I can tell you as a smoker, I've never achieved.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no clue with the runners high feels like right, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I start to wheeze very very quickly before I ever

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<v Speaker 1>even get close. You have runners low. Pretty much. It's

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<v Speaker 1>more of like a runners like dragged myself across the

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<v Speaker 1>floor kind of thing. Um. But so it's kind of like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you get this from what I understand, the the endorphins

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<v Speaker 1>attached to the opiate receptors, So all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like taking a giant hit a smack it right

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<v Speaker 1>in the old right, in the old left arm, and

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<v Speaker 1>and there you go. The weird thing is is that

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<v Speaker 1>endorphin is released in different doses depending on the individual.

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<v Speaker 1>It's unique to each person. So you and I could

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<v Speaker 1>bang the same knee, each of our knees on on

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<v Speaker 1>the same coffee table with the same force, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we get different doses of endorphins released. So I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>realize that. Apparently that's it's endorphins are one of the

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<v Speaker 1>few neurotransmitters that happened like that. So basically, smoking get

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<v Speaker 1>you going in all these way, right, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nicotine we know is highly addictive substance, naturally occurring subsce.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that ever proven? Because I got to tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>the big tobacco guys are telling me that's not really true.

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<v Speaker 1>Man's true. Those guys are evil incarnate, buddy. Are you sure? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very sure. I've been doing a lot of smoking research,

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<v Speaker 1>and not only is nicotine really addictive, but cigarette companies

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<v Speaker 1>have gone out of the way to add all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff to make it even more addictive, to uh,

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<v Speaker 1>to increase that rush of endorphins. It's just it's unreal, man,

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<v Speaker 1>when you start reading about this thing. Look, I saw

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<v Speaker 1>the Insider too, but I mean, really, I've got some

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<v Speaker 1>facts for you. Let's hear them. Well, there's four thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>four thousand chemicals and a cigarette and five hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine ingredients in each and every cigarette. So that's value.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how much is a cigarette? It's nothing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's one way to look at it. You're getting methane

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<v Speaker 1>and butane and rocket fuel and ammonia and cadmium. Where

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<v Speaker 1>else am I going to get this in my daily life? Yeah? Right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need that stuff, man, does your body doesn't?

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<v Speaker 1>Your cell phone battery does I should probably stop taking

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<v Speaker 1>my caminium supplements. You should. Uh, here's another smoking stat

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<v Speaker 1>you might like. Um, a packet day smoker in just

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<v Speaker 1>a full cup of tar one every year into their lungs.

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<v Speaker 1>What about a two packet day smoker would be two

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<v Speaker 1>cup cups of tar. It's it's a one to one

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<v Speaker 1>ratio there. So that's a full cup of tar in

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<v Speaker 1>your lungs. And one reason, you know, I used to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of scoff at people who when the cigarette company

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<v Speaker 1>started getting sued, like everyone knows they're bad for you.

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<v Speaker 1>How can you see the cigarette company? I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>that way anymore. Why don't doing this research because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about you as a smoker, but a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of smokers when they wake up, they have a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>bad cough. Eight percent of smokers have that for a

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<v Speaker 1>cigarette in the first ten minutes of their day, and

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<v Speaker 1>it makes them stop coughing. So throw yourself back to

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties, before all these Surgeon General's warnings and things,

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<v Speaker 1>when the Surgeon General was actually smoking right exactly. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you would wake up and cough and feel really bad.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a cigarette and make you feel better, so

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<v Speaker 1>you keep smoking. What's going on there is uh inside

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<v Speaker 1>your body, inside your lungs and your bronchial tubes and everything.

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<v Speaker 1>A little silly little hairs that are like little street sweepers.

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<v Speaker 1>It just kind of swing back and forth and they

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<v Speaker 1>clean out, you know, the bad debris and the particles,

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<v Speaker 1>and they get to work. Smoking. Uh kills those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>numbs them or kills them so where they stop sweeping,

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<v Speaker 1>so you collect all the cook down in there, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when you don't smoke overnight, they wake back up

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<v Speaker 1>again and start sweeping again. So when you wake up

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<v Speaker 1>as a smoker, you have all this mucus and UH

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff built up, so you want to cough it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Take that first cigarette, and it kills acilia again. They

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<v Speaker 1>stop working. You stop coughing, You think you feel better.

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<v Speaker 1>That's nuts, Isn't that crazy? That's biology? Man, Here's something

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<v Speaker 1>else for you. Free you. You You know what free base

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<v Speaker 1>nicotine is. I know what free basing is. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of the same same thing as crack cocaine. Honestly, Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nicotine that's missing a hydrogen, the ion. It's molecular structure,

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<v Speaker 1>it's missing one hydrogen ion, and without it it makes

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<v Speaker 1>it turns into a gas easier. And if it's turned

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<v Speaker 1>into a gas easier, it goes to your brain quicker,

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<v Speaker 1>and things that go to your brain quicker, is quicker

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<v Speaker 1>to make you addictive. It hits your brain faster, quicker reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>same as crack cocaine. It's quicker reaction and get you

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<v Speaker 1>high quicker. So it's missing a hydrogenion and it's stilled

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<v Speaker 1>with cadmium. Oh yeah, there's still the cadmium. Uh So

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<v Speaker 1>what they found out is a lot of these major

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<v Speaker 1>brands of cigarettes um have like ten to twenty times

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of free based nicotine that they thought. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing this on purpose. Not only that they put

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<v Speaker 1>it in the first uh the end of the cigarette,

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<v Speaker 1>so your first few puffs get you off quicker and

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<v Speaker 1>get you you know that that nicotine hit quicker. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's all very deliberate. It's all it's all on purpose

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<v Speaker 1>because they like to sell smokes. They're making a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money on so much so that there's another startling

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<v Speaker 1>stat fifty of people that have had surgery for lunk

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<v Speaker 1>answer start smoking again after the Yeah, I've known a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of people who are not lung cancer but like

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<v Speaker 1>heart attacks, Um, major coronary bypass surgery, right, Um, who

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<v Speaker 1>still smoke? And it's I, I guess that is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of that's either a testament to their their stupidity or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the addictiveness of the power of smoking. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of a downer for you probably and others. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what am I supposed to do? Chuck, Well, you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to quit, so maybe we should talk about that, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we can. It's uh, this brings us to

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<v Speaker 1>the article I wrote, is quitting smoking contagious? And it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out it's sort of is by contagious, we mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's much much easier to stop if you do it

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<v Speaker 1>with a partner, Okay, alright, so let's talk about that,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, let's do Uh there's a few little stats

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<v Speaker 1>here we could talk about. Two. Men generally have a

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<v Speaker 1>generally have a seven percent higher likelihood of quitting smoking

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<v Speaker 1>than women. You've got that on your side. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>only know. They think one reason might be because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times there's a weight gain associated with quitting,

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<v Speaker 1>and that women might be a little more bashful about

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<v Speaker 1>putting on some pounds than men are um and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it has to do with genetics too.

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<v Speaker 1>That you're talking about the nicotine receptors in your brain. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a receptor gene called exciting. It's called c HR

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<v Speaker 1>in A five of course. And uh, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>this gene in your body, you're born with it. You're

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<v Speaker 1>more likely to enjoy that very first cigarette you ever have.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really, so you than by by extension to be addicted, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and to be to continue smoking. Basically, so genetics are involved,

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<v Speaker 1>your sex is involved. Um, mental illness, This is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of interesting. Seventy of schizophrenics or smokers. Really, well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>funny because um they were hoping to use uh chavicks

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<v Speaker 1>to treat Yeah, that's okay, thanks, uh you all. That

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<v Speaker 1>is interesting because bipolar disorder six and alcoholics of alcoholic

0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.120
<v Speaker 1>smoke too. Again though, that falls in line with that

0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:13.439
<v Speaker 1>Kse State study that you know. It's it's smoking and

0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:17.120
<v Speaker 1>drinking alcohol, smoking and drinking coffee, smoking in food. We

0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:20.320
<v Speaker 1>derive pleasure from all these and it's like this, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like um, you know, putting the whipped cream on the

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream with when you have a cigarettes, just eating

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<v Speaker 1>vanilla ice cream but then hey, you've got the whipped

0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.480
<v Speaker 1>cream on topics, right, you know, it's kind of like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So what they've learned is that there was this big study.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you love the study, the Farmington Heart Study.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the study. It's enormous, it's sweeping. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what a study should be like twenty one years. What

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<v Speaker 1>twelve thousand, twelve thousand residents of Farmington, Massachusetts were studied

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<v Speaker 1>over thirty two year period. I mean that is you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about some really a really good data, significant data. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really cool. So they studied all these people and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a heart study, so it wasn't just for smoking,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just about the in general. But um, about five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand out of these twelve thousand are smokers, which which

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<v Speaker 1>they defined by smoking more than one cigarette every day. Yeah,

0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.800
<v Speaker 1>which is a little high. Actually, only about of the

0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:15.280
<v Speaker 1>population in the United States smokes. Now really, yeah, that's

0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.040
<v Speaker 1>that's on the high side. I'm part of a dying

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<v Speaker 1>breed on a yeah you are, yeah, very very literally literally, So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they studied these folks and they found they what they

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<v Speaker 1>basically did was a researched friends and family members and

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<v Speaker 1>co workers to get a subset of of connection, basically

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<v Speaker 1>people who are connected to each other. But they found

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<v Speaker 1>were that people that quit smoking. Um, whose spouse quit smoking,

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<v Speaker 1>your sixty seven percent less likely to smoke if your

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<v Speaker 1>spouse quit. Now, I can understand that. You know, because

0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you're living with somebody, you you get able to see

0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:51.560
<v Speaker 1>you every day. Uh yeah, But but in quite the opposite,

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<v Speaker 1>You're you can intimidate your mate out of smoking if

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<v Speaker 1>they know they're going to get in trouble. There's there's

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of fear fear based exactly. Uh. And it

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<v Speaker 1>extended even further than that. Co workers were thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>percent less like it can can continue smoking because I

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of times you have your smoke buddies.

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<v Speaker 1>If it don't have your smoke with sure, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>naming names though, no names being named, but um, if

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<v Speaker 1>that person were to quit, then your thirty four percent

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<v Speaker 1>uh less likely to continue smoking. Did you think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a significant drop? I mean, uh, that's six. Well, hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of a good ratio from your spouse to

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<v Speaker 1>a coworker. I guess yeah, close friends, you have a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six percent chance of of continuing smoke. Siblings so

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<v Speaker 1>there's they definitely established a link that if you quit

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<v Speaker 1>smoking with somebody else, uh, big significant chance that you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna quit smoking as well. Well. What I found super

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<v Speaker 1>interesting in in this article was that, um that you

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<v Speaker 1>said that the six degrees of separation rule actually apply.

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<v Speaker 1>So Kevin Bacon roll exactly. Yeah. Um. And if if

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<v Speaker 1>you put it, there's subject A B and C and

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<v Speaker 1>subject A no subject B and subject BE no subject C.

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<v Speaker 1>Is everyone following this so far? Yes? Okay, Um, if

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<v Speaker 1>subject A quit smoking, then subject C is more likely

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<v Speaker 1>to quit smoking as well, even though they don't know

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<v Speaker 1>each other. Yeah, I don't know, I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand that. Does does subject be you know, just by

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<v Speaker 1>knowing subject A carry the triumph of quitting with with

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<v Speaker 1>him or her to subject C or what? Maybe? So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that can be explained, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>in the data, I mean, less likely to continue smoking.

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<v Speaker 1>Subject C is if Subject A quits even if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know each other, and subject D it extends even

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<v Speaker 1>further eleven chance. That's so that's four people, three people away.

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<v Speaker 1>So they they there's a statistical link. They're just not

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<v Speaker 1>entirely certain what that link is No, they're not sure

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<v Speaker 1>what that link is, but what they do know from

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<v Speaker 1>the study is it, uh, just as you enable each

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<v Speaker 1>other when you smoke, smokers form clusters usually, and when

0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.280
<v Speaker 1>that cluster starts to break up, you'll either be a

0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.320
<v Speaker 1>part of the non smoking cluster or you'll go off

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<v Speaker 1>and form a new cluster with new smoking friends. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I can totally understand that. Um. Just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>down in the courtyard, I know people who I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see at all anymore because they quit smoking one of

0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:25.879
<v Speaker 1>the one of the two. Yeah, I hadn't. I hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>considered that. But the good news is you need a

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<v Speaker 1>buddy up with somebody, not you. Of course i'd like

0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.480
<v Speaker 1>you to quit, but you out there who are smokers,

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<v Speaker 1>buddy up with someone, if it's your wife, try it together.

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<v Speaker 1>You might want to kill each other at first, but

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out it's much much easier when you have

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<v Speaker 1>some support around you. So, Chuck, thanks for all this. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>As a smoker, my my one real takeaway from this

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<v Speaker 1>is don't bother smoking anything but the first third of

0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the cigarette because that's where the pop is. So yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that was your takeaway. It was I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>actually go uh and puff over this whole thing, right,

0:17:57.320 --> 0:18:00.280
<v Speaker 1>chew over it. I mean, I'm gonna go for a jog. Well,

0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.040
<v Speaker 1>don't you go anywhere, don't smoke or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Stick around for a second to find out which article

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<v Speaker 1>and practice Chuck thinks is ridiculous. I honestly don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. Chuck, what what? What article do you

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<v Speaker 1>think is ridiculous? And what practice? I should say, what practice?

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<v Speaker 1>It's called noodling? And what is noodling? Noodling is uh

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to say this. Rural folks um will

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<v Speaker 1>go out into a lake. They will get into the water.

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<v Speaker 1>They will reach down underwater with their hands into mud

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<v Speaker 1>holes and let a catfish bite onto their arm and

0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.520
<v Speaker 1>pull this thing out onto their attached to their limb. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually have heard of that, but that is called stumping,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, or something like that. Well, by any other name,

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<v Speaker 1>is also a rose. I have no idea, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>called noodling in this article, and it's, uh, it's ridiculous

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<v Speaker 1>to me. So why why why? I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 1>can catch a fish without having to spend the money

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<v Speaker 1>on hook or bait or anything, why not I know

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get complaints from noodlers all over the country.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. Well, I'm gonna go ahead and say that

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<v Speaker 1>catfish is d lish. No matter how you get. It's frightening.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe more than anything. It reminds me of the scene

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<v Speaker 1>in Flash Gordon where Timothy Dalton is reaching into that hole.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea what you're talking. That's a good movie.

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<v Speaker 1>You should see it, all right? Well, uh go see

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<v Speaker 1>Flash Gordon apparently, and be sure to read how noodling

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