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Speaker 1: This is the OTP.

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Speaker 2: I'm Amie Wells, and we are coming to you from Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: The Scouting Combine is upon us and we are wrapping

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Speaker 2: everything up. We've had a great week. We've had a

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Speaker 2: ton of fun, but now it's time to close everything

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Speaker 2: up and head on home. So Ret Brian's here, Taylor

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Speaker 2: Zarzer is here. Will Bowling, of course is here.

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Speaker 1: Guys, your thoughts. It's been a crazy week. I don't

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Speaker 1: I feel like I should have.

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Speaker 2: A better, more pointed question than that, but it really

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Speaker 2: feels like the time to just open up the floor

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Speaker 2: to what are your thoughts on this the Indianapolis Scouting

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Speaker 2: Combine experience.

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Speaker 3: I've loved it.

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Speaker 4: I was never a great student amy, and if I

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Speaker 4: was not interested in the subject, that had a really

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Speaker 4: high hard time overcoming that.

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Speaker 3: I am interested in this subject.

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Speaker 4: And I have learned so much in the last few days,

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Speaker 4: mostly from Rhet Bryan, not always about football, by the way,

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Speaker 4: but and certainly a lot from my little brother Will

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Speaker 4: Bowling over here, and you holding my hand and telling

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Speaker 4: me this is where you go, and this is what

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Speaker 4: happens next, and this is where these people are going

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Speaker 4: to be.

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Speaker 3: I've had an absolute blast.

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Speaker 4: It's really been fun to see this convention style, job

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Speaker 4: fair type environment that we've been in, and I'm fascinated

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Speaker 4: by the fact that everything is indoors and we have

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Speaker 4: not had to really brave the elements, and I'm very

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Speaker 4: grateful for that.

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Speaker 5: I think about one of our many guests that we've

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Speaker 5: had this week, Dan Graziano, had a great answer about

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Speaker 5: what this week is. It's a convention of the National

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Speaker 5: Football League. Yes, there are three hundred and nineteen young

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Speaker 5: men here who are getting medically taken a look at

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Speaker 5: and being interviewed, and then a lot of those are testing.

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Speaker 5: But it's where the league hub is for one week

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Speaker 5: for all thirty two teams. Obviously you know the Rams

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Speaker 5: and Jags aren't here, but there's a lot of business

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Speaker 5: take place here. This is where trade talks start to

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Speaker 5: hear whispers of things, and then obviously you get news

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Speaker 5: like Ruben Bain's short arms. Well, he does have shorter

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Speaker 5: arms for a pass rusher. Thirty and seven eight inches

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Speaker 5: interesting stat about that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there has never been an edge rusher drafted in

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Speaker 6: the top one hundred picks of the NFL. Draft with

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Speaker 5: Arms and the median line for where you're considered you

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Speaker 5: have decent length to pass orders. Thirty three inch arms

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Speaker 5: is basically what the thought is. With that in mind,

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Speaker 5: I take you from that to the extreme. And I

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Speaker 5: mentioned earlier in the week Caleb Banks, the defensive tackle

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Speaker 5: three twenty seven thirty five inch arms. So I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: he's gonna be the wing king this week. Wing eighty

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Speaker 5: five and three quarter inch wing for a D tackle,

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Speaker 5: this event since nineteen ninety nine. Wow, one of one rare.

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Speaker 5: And the thing is he went to the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 5: He only played two games for the Gators in twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty five, But that's a guy for The secret to

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Speaker 5: success for these defenses is getting four that can rush

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Speaker 5: the rest. Guy's a mountain. If he tests well with

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Speaker 5: these measurements, Caleb banks name will be rising up the

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's an interesting the juxtaposition of athletes that

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Speaker 6: you get because Casius Howell another really talented ed dresser

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Speaker 6: in this draft, ye another player with sub thirty one

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Speaker 3: For two really good players.

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Speaker 6: The thing that has stood out to me is how

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Speaker 6: much people in this league love Jeremiah Love. That to

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Speaker 6: me was I think the common thread among everyone that

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Speaker 6: that that guy may be the superstar. And when you

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Speaker 6: away the positional value stuff on where you draft X,

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Speaker 6: guy might be the best overall football player in this draft.

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Speaker 6: I think you compare that to someone who in a

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Speaker 3: The top five.

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Speaker 6: That's where I was going from the operation perspective is

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Speaker 6: Caleb Downs, who I think may be the highest floor

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Speaker 6: player in this draft, who today is a fantastic football

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Speaker 6: player who's not going to jump off the relative athletics

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Speaker 6: So it's a really interesting mix because you have two

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Speaker 6: positions that you wouldn't typically pick in the top ten.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody wants to see Taylor's Arser's mock draft, including

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Speaker 4: Taylor's arser And I'm gonna stop speaking in the third person.

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Speaker 3: Now, but I have Caleb Downs bowling. Thanks, well played.

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Speaker 4: That would be He'd be number one on my board.

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Speaker 4: Caleb Downs would for all the reasons you just reference.

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Speaker 4: But the thing that I really learned the most by

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Speaker 4: being here, Amy, and thank you for bringing me, is

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Speaker 4: about Jeremiah Love and the obsession that all the people

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Speaker 4: much value are you putting on his position? If you

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Speaker 4: need a vertical receiver, if you need more protection for

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Speaker 4: need somebody else to line up next to Jeffrey Simmons,

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Speaker 4: that before you get the best player who is playing

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Speaker 4: a position that's maybe not as important as the other positions.

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Speaker 4: But again, there's a difference of opinion there. I mean,

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Speaker 4: the Titans, So don't tell me a running back doesn't matter.

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Speaker 4: But it's really been fascinating to hear those different opinions.

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Speaker 4: What have you learned by the way, Oh.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think every time you're here. What has

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Speaker 1: It's just incredible to.

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Speaker 2: Me to see year over year how everybody does this

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Speaker 2: a little bit differently. So we're seeing teams relying more

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Speaker 2: the Jags and the Rams. We're seeing some teams really

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Speaker 1: What's important to them.

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Speaker 2: Their fan base is the groups of people that they

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Speaker 5: For me, I'm gonna piggyback off of what Tz and

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Speaker 5: Will we're talking about with whoever you think the fourth

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Speaker 5: lining is this, you went through the hell of three

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Speaker 5: You're going to get a really good football player at

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Speaker 5: number four, regardless of position whatever. And people could pick

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Speaker 5: apart whatever like they should have done this, they should

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Speaker 5: have sure, fine, whatever, But you're going to get a

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Speaker 5: really good football player at four. And the way this

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Speaker 5: at pick sixty six, at pick one oh one. And

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Speaker 5: three stuff's gonna be very interesting to fill this roster out.

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Speaker 2: So we've had the opportunity to talk to a lot

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Speaker 2: couple of them, the Dan Grazianos, etcetera, etcetera. Were there

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Speaker 2: any conversations or takes that you guys had that surprised

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Speaker 2: as a whole.

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Speaker 1: Did anything surprise you.

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Speaker 6: I think the way Jeremiah Love has talked about is

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Speaker 6: a little bit of a surprise to me. And Trevor Sikima,

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Speaker 6: he is the one blue chip player in the entire class.

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Speaker 6: That was really interesting to me to say that above

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Speaker 6: an rvel reset of Ohio State, above a Fernando Mendoza,

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Speaker 6: who Daniel Jeremiah's top fifty had the other day, with

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Speaker 6: him as the number one player in the draft, regardless

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Speaker 6: of position. That was a little bit surprising to me.

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Speaker 6: But again, I think speaks to the versatility of what

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Speaker 6: Jeremiah Love offers you, and that if you are drafting him,

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Speaker 6: let's say it for or he gets it, doesn't feel

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Speaker 6: thirty one other teams here are hoping that doesn't happen

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Speaker 3: But he's a weapon.

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Speaker 6: He's not a running back, right, But that was a

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Speaker 6: bit surprising to me to hear that he is the

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Speaker 6: blue chip guy singular.

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Speaker 4: Mike Tannenbaum sat down where you're sitting, Amy, and he

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Speaker 4: works for ESPN, used to be the general manager of

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Speaker 4: the Jets and the Dolphins, and he was adamant that

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Speaker 4: you need more offensive line help at the top of

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Speaker 4: the draft. And it was interesting. I've heard just about

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Speaker 4: every other pundit say go get a pass rusher, go

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Speaker 4: get a receiver. Maybe they would say go get a cornerback,

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Speaker 4: but I mean, he wasn't even like an opshock.

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Speaker 5: Francis malanoa from Miami. We even spoke briefly about Venga Iwana,

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Speaker 5: interesting to see how some of those guys test this week.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, he was the one standout. He's right, he's

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Speaker 3: We bring him in the Guru. Daniel Jeremiah from NFL Network.

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Speaker 3: He is a draft expert. He also works for the

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Speaker 5: When he's like Ef Hutton, when DJ speaks, you should listen.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I would like you to do an audio version

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Speaker 5: We should do that.

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Speaker 4: I want RHTT and you to really get into the

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Speaker 7: a little more sudden, it's a little more twitch, a

437
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 7: little more juice, whereas Sarat, to me, he's more gonna,

438
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 7: you know, kind of wall guys off body, a guy

439
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 7: on a slant, you know, catch a back shoulder. I

440
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 7: think he has value, but to me, that's more a

441
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Speaker 7: third round than a second round.

442
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Speaker 4: And like Redd and you were talking here, is there

443
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 4: the kind of depth on Day two and Day three

444
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Speaker 4: that there was last year that the Titans obviously went

445
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 4: after with dk Iomanor and even at the tight end

446
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 4: position with him.

447
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,959
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think to me, especially the receiver group, it

448
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 7: runs deep and tight end wise, we don't have the

449
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Speaker 7: top tier guys that we had last year, you know,

450
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 7: in terms of Warren and Loveland like that. Those guys

451
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,880
Speaker 7: aren't in this draft. I like Sadiq, but he's kind

452
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 7: he's a move guy. He's going to be under six

453
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Speaker 7: foot three. But the tight end group that goes beyond

454
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Speaker 7: that in that you know, second, third, maybe even more third,

455
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Speaker 7: fourth round. Max Claire from Ohio State I really like,

456
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 7: is a good player Stours from Vanderbilt, who's his explosive player,

457
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Speaker 7: more of a pass catcher than a blocker. He kind

458
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Speaker 7: of falls in in that world as well. So I

459
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Speaker 7: like that. That's a sweet spot. Every draft with positions

460
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Speaker 7: has sweet spots. To me, the tight end is like

461
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Speaker 7: third fourth round. That's the area.

462
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Speaker 4: I want to hear what you guys have to say

463
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Speaker 4: about pass rushing of course, the Titans have essentially a

464
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Speaker 4: rookie coming into the his second year in Famiola. Dejo

465
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 4: only played in a few games last year, and he's

466
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 4: a project player. But somebody that certainly looks the part.

467
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Speaker 4: From out in your neck of the woods in southern California,

468
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Speaker 4: what do you think the Titans do in terms of

469
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Speaker 4: addressing the pass rush?

470
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Speaker 7: Well, you could do it right off the jump and

471
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Speaker 7: be in really really good spot. You know, there's different

472
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Speaker 7: ways I can talk myself into different guys with that

473
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Speaker 7: first pick and go okay, well man, here's the thing

474
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Speaker 7: everybody compliments Jeffrey. So when you look at Simmons and

475
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Speaker 7: it's like, okay, well Baine, I've looked at I said, well,

476
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Speaker 7: now this gives him a real physical identity, Like you

477
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Speaker 7: put those are two power guys you can beat up

478
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Speaker 7: on people. Put those guys together, you could even on

479
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 7: pass rush situations, you could let them both rush inside.

480
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 7: You kick Bain in there. Now you've got two guys.

481
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 7: NFL guards can't block those guys. So I can talk

482
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Speaker 7: myself into that. And then I'm like, well, I don't know.

483
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Speaker 7: I can put Bailey out there and now you're gonna

484
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Speaker 7: free him up one on one, You're not gonna be

485
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Speaker 7: able to help, and he can win right now with

486
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Speaker 7: his speed. I'm like, well, I don't know. Then I

487
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Speaker 7: take RVL Reese. I could put him off the ball

488
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Speaker 7: a little bit and I make him as a joker

489
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Speaker 7: and move him around. So Jeffery, we have Jeffer Simms.

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Speaker 7: It kind of makes it easy to talk yourself in

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Speaker 7: any of these guys.

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Speaker 5: You mentioned some of the top guys in that top tier,

493
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Speaker 5: and I imagine that pod will look the same in

494
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Speaker 5: most boards across the league if they didn't go edge

495
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Speaker 5: pass rusher at four at thirty five. There's a myriad

496
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Speaker 5: of names. One I really am interested to watch this

497
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Speaker 5: week is Gabe Akis from Illinois.

498
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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a butt kicker. He's he's got a silent

499
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Speaker 7: first letter and his last name. Yeah, I think silent

500
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 7: about his game like it is very He is very

501
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 7: loud and demonstrative with how he plays, real physical, real tough.

502
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Speaker 7: I had him just outside my top fifty, but he's

503
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Speaker 7: going to go somewhere there in the second round. I

504
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Speaker 7: want to see how he works out. But he's a

505
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Speaker 7: good one. The other one are Mason Thomas. To me,

506
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Speaker 7: he plays his rear end Off. I had a great

507
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Speaker 7: conversation with the GM. This is probably a month or

508
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Speaker 7: so ago, and I just, you know, it was kind

509
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Speaker 7: of going through some guys again, and he just kept

510
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 7: showing up. I was watching some offensive lineman. I'm like,

511
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Speaker 7: he's kind of kicking their butt. So I'm on the

512
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Speaker 7: phone with the GM and I go, Are Mason Thomas,

513
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Speaker 7: I'm like, doesn't that sound like an author's name? Like

514
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Speaker 7: that sounds like it's just be on the bottom of

515
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Speaker 7: a jacket of a book cover. And he immediately I

516
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 7: wish I would have thought of He goes, yeah, I

517
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 7: think his best work was to kill a quarterback. I'm

518
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 7: stealing that without attribution.

519
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Speaker 3: Of course, I love that.

520
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Speaker 4: Why not Daniel Jeremiah's first trip to Augusta National written

521
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Speaker 4: by Are.

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Speaker 7: It's a horror. It's a horror. It's a horror.

523
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Speaker 3: I love that. I love that.

524
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Speaker 7: Or Greek tragedy. However, you want to see my back nine.

525
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Speaker 4: So which we have heard about it and I was

526
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Speaker 4: very excited for you. Secondary is another thing the Titans

527
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Speaker 4: will be spending a lot of time addressing this offseason.

528
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Speaker 4: Tell us a little bit about that, the top of

529
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Speaker 4: the draft, and and then the depth at that certainly

530
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Speaker 4: at the cornerback spot.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's to me corner wise, it's a it's another

532
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Speaker 7: good group as you get intoday two and specifically the Nichols,

533
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Speaker 7: Like if you wanted to if you're looking for a

534
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Speaker 7: Nickel one, to find somebody that could come in there

535
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Speaker 7: and play. There's some fun ones. Conte Scott from Miami,

536
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 7: who's just super dynamic and explosive. I'm I'm big on

537
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 7: guys that have energy. I think some of that's from

538
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Speaker 7: being around ray Lewis or being around Derwin James, and

539
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Speaker 7: you know, seeing that energy that kind of can get

540
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Speaker 7: the whole group going. Kante Scott provides that in a

541
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 7: much smaller package. Dangelo Pond's does the same thing and

542
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 7: did the same thing for Indiana with how he plays.

543
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Speaker 7: Those are a couple interesting guys. Trading Stokes from Arizona.

544
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Speaker 7: I think you'll start hearing his name come up more

545
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 7: and more after this week. There's a you know, it's

546
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Speaker 7: a real quality group.

547
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Speaker 5: Julian Neil Arkansas, Big Big and More from Florida.

548
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Speaker 7: Those two guys I always use the phrase traveling together

549
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 7: like as you go through the draft process, like oh,

550
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 7: they're they're kind of traveling together. We'll see how that

551
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 7: sorts itself out. But those are two big corners. Zeke

552
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Speaker 7: Masses from Cal Yeah another one Cal. Cal's like a

553
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 7: sneaky dB factory. When you look over the league over

554
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 7: the last four or five years, Justin Wilcox did a

555
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 7: nice job of developing defense, like the.

556
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Speaker 4: Four guys drafted last year, so I mean one, of

557
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 4: course it went to the Titans who looked really good,

558
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 4: and Marcus Harris this season went along.

559
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Speaker 7: Who can really play the ball. Craig Woodson, you know,

560
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 7: great last year with the Patriots and their Super Bowl run,

561
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Speaker 7: So I you know, that's a group that it's done

562
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Speaker 7: a really good job and guys that are ready to

563
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Speaker 7: play right away.

564
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Speaker 3: Yeah, pros good.

565
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Speaker 4: Good conversation about the secondary before we let you go, DJ,

566
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 4: we were blown away by Mike Borgonzi, by Dave Ziggler,

567
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 4: by Reg McKenzie, by the front office's ability to evaluate

568
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 4: players last year and get them ready to play immediately.

569
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Speaker 4: What does the league think of Mike Borganzi and the

570
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Speaker 4: Titans front office?

571
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Speaker 7: I think, you know, I think when you saw the

572
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Speaker 7: the openings there not only just the head coach of

573
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 7: coordinator openings as well. You could tell it was a

574
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Speaker 7: desired location. And I think Cam's a big part of that.

575
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Speaker 7: You know, they're everybody's excited about Cam Warden what he

576
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Speaker 7: can become there. But I think it's bigger than that.

577
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Speaker 7: I think there's an excitement about the direction, the young

578
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Speaker 7: players that were brought in last year, getting them up

579
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Speaker 7: to speed, getting them going. The overall culture I think

580
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 7: is in good shape. Throwing on top of that, you're

581
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Speaker 7: getting a brand new stadium. It's there's good vibes, and

582
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Speaker 7: there's good vibes and if they can stack another one.

583
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Speaker 7: I think you look at teams that have you know,

584
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Speaker 7: had had runs. I always look at it and say,

585
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Speaker 7: can you put if you put two really good classes together,

586
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 7: that can set you up for a seven eight year run.

587
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 7: I've just see it all through, you know, go through

588
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 7: all the teams that have been found consistent success. You

589
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 7: can always trace it back to man. These are the

590
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 7: two drafts that they pulled it off. They've got one.

591
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Speaker 7: Now they've got to stack another one right on top

592
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Speaker 7: of it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, brother, We appreciate you, Daniel.

594
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Speaker 7: Good to see you, guys, Good to see you too, big.

595
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Speaker 2: Thank you to DJ for taking some time to chat

596
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Speaker 2: with us. There's actually another person because I want I

597
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: want to talk to you all about this, of course,

598
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Speaker 2: but before we do that, we had Bucky Brooks on.

599
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Speaker 1: You guys had a chance to talk to him.

600
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Speaker 2: It was really interesting, not only his insight just into

601
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Speaker 2: drafted players and all of that, but he also gave

602
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: some really good insight into old Tennessee Titans lore, almost

603
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: kind of.

604
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Speaker 1: The history of what they have done. Why was that

605
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Speaker 1: so interesting to you?

606
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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 6: I think it's interesting because I think the new Titans

608
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Speaker 6: type in a lot of ways mirrors the Titans of

609
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Speaker 6: old and getting off the bus with Javon Curse, with

610
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Speaker 6: Kyle Van Denbosch, Keith Bullock, with Eddie George, Steve McNair,

611
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Speaker 6: that type of lunch pale AFC central football that a

612
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 6: lot of Titans fans grew to love and watched win

613
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Speaker 6: a lot of football games. Bucky Brooks makes the point

614
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Speaker 6: that that's a Titan. That is what he felt like

615
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Speaker 6: he was getting ready to see when the Tennessee Titans

616
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 6: got off the bus. I think that mirrors a lot

617
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Speaker 6: of what Robert Sala's type is. I think get mirrors

618
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Speaker 6: a lot of what Mike Borgonzi has said, and also

619
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Speaker 6: what Mike Burgonzi has done with a lot of the

620
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Speaker 6: moves that he's made. It's one thing to stand up

621
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Speaker 6: at a microphone and tell us what your type is,

622
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Speaker 6: but the players that he's picked, the free agents that

623
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Speaker 6: he signed, have mirrored his words to say that we

624
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Speaker 6: want tough guys that love football who are great teammates.

625
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 6: And cam Ward is the best example of that. And

626
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Speaker 6: I think the mentality of the two guys that are

627
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Speaker 6: about to be best buddies at the facility, Brian Dabole

628
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 6: and cam Ward together represents that on offense the same

629
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Speaker 6: way it represents Gus Bradley's defense with Jeffrey Simmons and

630
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Speaker 6: the way those guys attack offenses and attack the practice

631
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Speaker 6: field every single day. A long winded way to say

632
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 6: you got to go back to go forwards in some ways,

633
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Speaker 6: and I think Bucky Brooks really verbalize that well, to

634
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 6: say that the Titans of older are what maybe you

635
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 6: need to get back.

636
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Speaker 5: To a little bit.

637
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Speaker 1: Well, let's share that conversation right now.

638
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Speaker 2: This is Bucky Brooks right here on the OTP to start.

639
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Speaker 3: The NFL Combine tar Heels.

640
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Speaker 4: Bucky Brooks is in the house with us Fantasy Draft guru.

641
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Speaker 3: How many combines have you been to?

642
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Speaker 5: Buck?

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Speaker 8: Okay, so let's go ninety four and then from everyone

644
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Speaker 8: from two thousand and one on okay.

645
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Speaker 9: Six.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's been fun. It's crazy to see how much

647
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 8: has changed. Like back in ninety four, it was going

648
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Speaker 8: to Never Never Land. You just didn't know what you

649
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 8: were walking into as a player. Like it wasn't broadcasts,

650
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 8: people didn't talk about it. You just gotta show up.

651
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 8: They put you in a turfy kind of run around.

652
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Speaker 8: But now it's become such an event, such a media

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Speaker 8: event where everyone has an interest in the next generation

654
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Speaker 8: of stars.

655
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Speaker 9: Has been kind of cool to see.

656
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Speaker 4: Do you feel like the importance of it for the

657
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Speaker 4: teams has changed throughout that process?

658
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Speaker 9: No, I think it's different though.

659
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 8: I think it's different because the technological events advances have

660
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Speaker 8: changed everything. So one, the event is on TV, so

661
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Speaker 8: everything is video or whatever. Where you had to come

662
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 8: here to see everything visually. Now NFL Network has broadcasted

663
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 8: two the move to GPS and miles per hour in

664
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Speaker 8: those things where this used to be the only time

665
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Speaker 8: that you would get numbers and metrics on how big, fast, strong, explosive,

666
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 8: people were, well, now you get that into college games

667
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 8: because you get it's taped into the jersey, so you

668
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 8: can get a lot of the stuff that you needed

669
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Speaker 8: without being here. But to me, there's still some value

670
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 8: in being face to face meeting guys, seeing how they

671
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 8: interact with others, because, look, you talk about a multimillion

672
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 8: dollar decision that you're making on these players and particularly

673
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 8: coming on the heels of these teams that made it

674
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 8: to the super Bowl, and how we saw connectivity with

675
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 8: your team is everything. You got to make sure that

676
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 8: you bringing the right guys into building outside of being

677
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 8: the really good players.

678
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 5: Bucky, you do an excellent podcast with your co host

679
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 5: Daniel Jeremiah, Move the Sticks. It's a great listen for

680
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 5: anybody who's a football person, especially in NFL. You guys

681
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 5: did a deep dive a little over a year ago

682
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 5: talking about the median average start for a quarterback in

683
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 5: college to translating to a loose definition of a successful

684
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 5: NFL quarterback. Now, if I remember correctly, it was about

685
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 5: thirty nine and a half starts was the median. The

686
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 5: reason I say all that long runway Ty Simpson fifteen

687
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 5: career starts Alabama probably quarterback number two. But what do

688
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 5: you think about a guy coming out like that and

689
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 5: only has fifteen starts.

690
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 9: History tells you that it's hard to overcome that.

691
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 8: It's hard because this game is a game about reps,

692
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 8: and you need more reps to get comfortable at any environment.

693
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 8: And the NFL game has changed so much with the

694
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 8: defenses and the constant changing of coverage and those things

695
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 8: that if you don't have enough reps in the bank,

696
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 8: it can overwhelm you. I think about my Tarhel Drake

697
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 8: May and the way that he looked in the postseason

698
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 8: where you could it and he started maybe twenty seven,

699
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 8: twenty eight, twenty nine, but there were some lapses in

700
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 8: terms of like didn't play his last couple years of

701
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 8: high school, goes to college redshirts behind Sam Howell, plays too,

702
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 8: then goes that's not a lot of experience. And what

703
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 8: happens is the league is one where at quarterback in particular,

704
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 8: you have to constantly adapt and adjust. Every eight games

705
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 8: the defense catches up and they started to be like, oh,

706
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 8: he's this, so let's throw something at him. And if

707
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 8: you don't have a bunch of reps where you can

708
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 8: kind of deal with the counter tactics.

709
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 9: It can overwhelm you, it can make you really really struggle.

710
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 4: Do you think there's a minimum threshold at other positions too,

711
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: like a minimum baseline of time on tasks?

712
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 8: Well, I mean I think obviously more is better, but

713
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 8: I think at quarterback in particular, just because I mean,

714
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 8: like we talk about this quarterback is holding the church's

715
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 8: money for everybody, and so when we talk about the

716
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 8: quarterback and how important his performance is, you want to

717
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 8: make sure that the guy that you're bringing in is

718
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 8: ready for what is on him. And sometimes you can

719
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 8: catch lightning in the bottle there. I mean, there haven't

720
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 8: been many that have played like fifteen games and had

721
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Speaker 8: a lot of success, but maybe you have a team

722
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 8: around them that can do it. But it's really really

723
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 8: hard to have a young quarterback with limited experience to

724
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 8: play and play really well.

725
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 5: But this time of year ago, cam Ward was above

726
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 5: that medium line. Your thoughts of his rookie season in

727
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 5: the review mirror now.

728
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 8: Look, and I think in a very tough situation, I

729
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 8: think a lot was revealed about Kim the person. And

730
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Speaker 8: I think a lot of times when we talk about

731
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Speaker 8: quarterbacks and why we want reps is to see how

732
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Speaker 8: they handle the adversity. Bow Knicks played a lot of games,

733
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 8: and if you ask the armoring people how Bownicks would

734
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,239
Speaker 8: turn out, they would tell you a different story than

735
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 8: the people at Oregon.

736
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Speaker 9: But when you play sixty.

737
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Speaker 8: Plus games and you kind of go through it, you

738
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 8: kind of get some scuffs and some scars, you be

739
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 8: prepared to handle the adversity. For cam Ward, I thought

740
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 8: he showed that he could handle the adversity. Obviously he

741
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 8: needs things around him to be successful, but I never

742
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 8: felt like he packed it in at a time where

743
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 8: a lot of guys could pack it in. He kept

744
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 8: playing and I just know, like even the Jacksonville game.

745
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 9: He doesn't have a lot to go.

746
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 8: But until he got hurt in that game, it looked like, hey,

747
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 8: hey guys, this is about to be one. Because he scores,

748
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 8: he gets hurt on that thing. So there's a lot

749
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 8: that you can be encouraged with. And I'm gonna say this,

750
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 8: the situation that he jumps into with Brian Daball now

751
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 8: offensive coordinator, who's really good dealing with athletic quarterbacks, mobile playmakers,

752
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Speaker 8: I think you should be excited about cam Ward.

753
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 6: When you look at the wide receiver position, and maybe

754
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 6: what Brian Dabole offensively will want from a new crop

755
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 6: of pass catchers coming in. What do you think that

756
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 6: type looks like for him?

757
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 8: You know it what's interesting in this draft, Like I

758
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 8: would think ideally he would want a guy that can

759
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 8: be a number one receiver. Number one receiver is so

760
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 8: different when it comes to what they are able to do.

761
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 8: So the number one receiver by definition, is one that

762
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 8: can do anything and everything against double coverage. Because your

763
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 8: number one receiver has to be able to fend off

764
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 8: double coverage. He has to be comfortable knowing that I

765
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 8: may fay pressed, I may play loaded zones.

766
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 9: In those things, route running is critical.

767
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 8: Pass catching is not often discussed, but the number one

768
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 8: job of the receivers to catch the ball. So what

769
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 8: does their catch percentage look like? And then the other

770
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 8: part of it is they don't need to be the fastest.

771
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 8: I think if you actually do the median on what

772
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 8: the number one receivers in the league are, it's probably

773
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 8: about four or five to two four or five five.

774
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 8: So we'll get out here, we'll get dazed and amazed

775
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 8: by the guys that run for threes, But more times

776
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 8: than not, it's the slower player who has better body

777
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 8: control that ends up being the number one receiver.

778
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 9: And so in this draft class, it'll.

779
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 8: Be interesting to see how it all shakes out after

780
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 8: we go through this process.

781
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 4: Later on in the draft. Last year, Bucky, the Titans

782
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 4: found Gunner he Nice. Who knows what happens with Chick Konquo,

783
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 4: who is a free agent this year. If the Titans

784
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 4: have to go back to the well again and find

785
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 4: a tight end Day two, Day three, anybody out there

786
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 4: you like, Oh, there are a lot of guys.

787
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 8: Man Joe Royer from Cincinnati, someone's Ohio State transfer, Max

788
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 8: clar from Ohio State is another one. There's a kid

789
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 8: at Utah ballin who is terrific. They are tight ends,

790
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 8: and I think the second and third round is the

791
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 8: sweet spot for that. We're talking about locally, people who

792
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 8: talk about Eli story, I think you have to have

793
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 8: a role for him because to me, he strikes me

794
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 8: as more of a jumbo slot receiver yeah than a

795
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 8: true tight end. But it depends on what you have

796
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 8: playing opposite him. We talked about the combine. Gunn Heem

797
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 8: only drops because he didn't run fast, but the player

798
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 8: was always there on tape at Texas. I think there's

799
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 8: some guys that can be found in this draft, Bucky.

800
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 5: In your one point oh moch you had the Titans

801
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 5: taking Carnell Tait at four. Why Carnell Tait instead of

802
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 5: a Makai Lemon from Southern cal or Jordan Tyson from Airez.

803
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 5: Just what were your thoughts there?

804
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 8: I think with Cardell Tate, like you are talking about

805
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 8: like a freak athlete. He averaged fifteen yards per kesh

806
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 8: during the time at Ohio State. He is explosive, he

807
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 8: has great hand eye coordination, ball skills and all that

808
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 8: the one thing that leads you to pause when you

809
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 8: think about taking the number one.

810
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 9: He played the number two role at Ohio State.

811
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 8: Everyone who watched the Ohio State knows that Jeremiah Smith is

812
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 8: to cast me out. And so can you project someone

813
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 8: to go from being robbing to be in batman? And

814
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 8: so that would be the thing that you have to

815
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 8: figure out. Can he be the lead receiver? And if

816
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 8: he is projecting to be the lead receiver, how long

817
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 8: will it take him to be comfortable in that or

818
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 8: do you have plans to get a veteran that can

819
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 8: be the number one?

820
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 9: So he can play the role that he'd always played.

821
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 8: But he is fantastic and Lemon you talk about more

822
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 8: of a smaller player, someone who is quick and explosive,

823
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 8: terrific with the ball in his hands, but he's smaller

824
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 8: and you can get away with a smaller receiver. I'm

825
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 8: not saying that he's a slide but he plays z NF.

826
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 8: He can go inside and outside to make it happen.

827
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 8: In Jordan Tyson Man, I love Jordan Tye. The injury

828
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 8: history is what is going to be the concern. But

829
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 8: when I watched him, I wrote in my notes JSN

830
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 8: he reminds me so much of Jack to Smith and

831
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 8: Jigba in terms of route running, playmaking after the catch,

832
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 8: in those things. But the injury history is extensive, And

833
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 8: so how comfortable are you gambling at number four? People

834
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 8: that talk about this in baseball terms. As much as

835
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 8: I would love to hit a home run at four man,

836
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 8: you can win a lot of games with singles and

837
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 8: doulbhinst's get on those. Do you take the safer pick,

838
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 8: which may be Carnell because you know exactly what you're

839
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 8: going to get, and then you just kind of build

840
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 8: the offense in the passing game around what his skills

841
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 8: are with somebody else complimenting.

842
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 6: I know a lot will be made about the measurements

843
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 6: on Reuben Bain Junior and the measurables this week and

844
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 6: that process. But certainly five sacks in the college football

845
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 6: playoff run that Miami had at the National Championship game

846
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 6: say he can perform against premier tackles as well. What

847
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 6: does the tape show you about Ruben being jeter to

848
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 6: make him your number one?

849
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 8: That drusher, junkyard dog man, He plays hard and all

850
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 8: that other stuff, and I think it's an underrated skill.

851
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 8: And because you guys have been with the Titans, have

852
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 8: been around the Titans and know what the Titans are.

853
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 8: I always think about the vintage Titans being a team

854
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 8: that was the toughest team on the block. That's how

855
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 8: they played, and if you ask me, that's what fists

856
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 8: and that's always what's gonna fit in Tennessee. And then

857
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 8: when I think about Robert Salad coming over and what

858
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 8: he's learned along the way going from head coach to

859
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 8: the Jets to then doing a phenomenal job with an

860
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 8: under man San Francisco defense, Bain would fit that. Bill

861
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 8: and I just see his ability to be able to

862
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,359
Speaker 8: make things happen, to play hard, do it, and you

863
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 8: put him beside because you remember, Simmons is the number one,

864
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 8: He's the alpha. So now you just need compliments around

865
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 8: it because more teams are doing it by committee.

866
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 9: I think it'd be a terrific fit.

867
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 4: Last year, a tar heel made a ton of tackles

868
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 4: Cedric Gray in the middle of that defense for the Titans.

869
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 4: What about an off ball linebacker that you like, maybe

870
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 4: day two, day three, that the Titans could look at a.

871
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Speaker 9: Man so interesting?

872
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Speaker 8: Right, So you have Anthony Hill from Texas. If someone

873
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 8: made a lot of plays, you think about his ability

874
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 8: to run and chase and do things, and he's still

875
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 8: just kind of coming on. If you think about more

876
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 8: of a bigger player, Jake Golday from Cincinnati, someone who

877
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 8: played defensive end early in his career, real long, six

878
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Speaker 8: four to two hundred and forty five pounds, heavy handed,

879
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 8: kind of has that physical presence that you like. I

880
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 8: just think the way this team is gonna be built,

881
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 8: and this is why I'm really excited about the AFC South.

882
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 8: There's gonna be rock' soccer robots every week and it's

883
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 8: all ways kind of been at when I think about

884
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 8: how the Texans play, how the Titans want to get down,

885
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 8: how the Jaguars have kind of started to play. And

886
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 8: even with the Colts, you got to have some physical

887
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 8: players and I think gold they certainly can jump in

888
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 8: that bucket.

889
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Speaker 4: Awesome stuff, my friend, keep it going. Appreciate you. It

890
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Speaker 4: was great man, Thanks so much for having me.

891
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Speaker 1: All right, boys, I want to talk about something here.

915
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: Trevor Sikama is somebody that we have never had on

916
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: the OTP. I know rhtt you read a lot of

917
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: the stuff he writes, and I know TZ you know

918
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: him quite personally.

919
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 4: I might have officiated his wedding, Yes, yes, you did so.

920
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: He was an interesting person who was here and got

921
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: the opportunity to talk to him a little bit.

922
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Speaker 1: Rhett, what did you take away from that conversation?

923
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Speaker 5: Well, I go back to what Will has already echoed,

924
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 5: because he was the guy that he immediately talked about.

925
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 5: Jeremiah loved the running back from Notre Dame being the

926
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Speaker 5: one blue chip prospect in this draft and talking about

927
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Speaker 5: the importance of running the football, which in recent history,

928
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Speaker 5: we've had drafts whor that we didn't have a running

929
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Speaker 5: back taken in the first round. And then you've had

930
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Speaker 5: some windows at the Jamiir Gibbs recently where there's been

931
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Speaker 5: a two or three it's but taken in the first round.

932
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Speaker 5: It's almost like it was. But if you find that weapon,

933
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Speaker 5: as we said, not just a running back, but a

934
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Speaker 5: three down back who can catch you out of the backfield,

935
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Speaker 5: who can do all these things. But that's the first thing.

936
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Speaker 5: And listen, Trevor is a super smart guy. He and

937
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Speaker 5: his co host of the New York NFL Stock Exchange,

938
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Speaker 5: Connor Rodgers, do a fantastic job. If you want to

939
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Speaker 5: learn a deep dive about some of these prospects, I'd

940
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Speaker 5: go go check those guys out. But pff at all

941
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Speaker 5: it's great.

942
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Speaker 4: Did you almost give Mark Gastono and Joe Clecko a

943
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 4: shout out just then?

944
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

945
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't us, did yeah? New York Stock Exchange, Yes, yeah, yes,

946
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Speaker 3: the New York.

947
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Speaker 4: Scene before the time of the people at this table

948
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Speaker 4: that's on the other side of this table.

949
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Speaker 5: That's correct.

950
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Speaker 1: But yes, well, let's play that interview now. Let's check

951
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Speaker 1: in with Trevor Sikima.

952
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 4: We're joined now by Trevor Sikima. I've been waiting for

953
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Speaker 4: this moment for a long long time. He feels like

954
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 4: a member of my family on the road on SEC

955
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 4: football games each week. He's my favorite member of the

956
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 4: traveling crew. Shots fired to the other members of that

957
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Speaker 4: traveling Wow. Yeah, not sor right. I'll stand by that.

958
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Speaker 10: I mean, this man literally married me and my wife.

959
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 10: So like when you talk about being family, I mean.

960
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Speaker 3: That's that's that's that's as close as a guest you can.

961
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

962
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Speaker 4: Great time at the wedding. Actually talked to Rett Bryan

963
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 4: about Trevor Sikima's mock drafts at Trevor's wedding. Trevor, of course,

964
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Speaker 4: works for Pro Football Focus and he has his Stock

965
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Speaker 4: Exchange podcast, which mister Brian is a loyal fan.

966
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Speaker 5: I am a loyal subscriber to the NFL Stock Exchange

967
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 5: with him and his co host Connor Rogers. Excellent work

968
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Speaker 5: by you, gentlemen, checks into.

969
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Speaker 4: Mag I appreciate it, and I know it's really good,

970
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Speaker 4: really good, And I know mister Bowling is gonna get

971
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Speaker 4: a lot out of this conversation because we're fascinated by

972
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Speaker 4: what the Tennessee Titans are going to do with the

973
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Speaker 4: fourth pick and the draft.

974
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Speaker 10: What do you think, Treff, I mean, there's there's, obviously,

975
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 10: you guys know this, a lot of different directions that

976
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 10: they could go. And any time that you're hiring a

977
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Speaker 10: new staff and you've got a new direction, I mean,

978
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Speaker 10: it's a muldable ball of clay. And I think that

979
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Speaker 10: that's the important part to remember about this roster is is, Okay,

980
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 10: you're making big changes, and even like Mike Borganzi himself, right,

981
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 10: I mean, like he's relatively new, and so you're still

982
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,919
Speaker 10: building the team the way that he would have had

983
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Speaker 10: his vision for when he came on.

984
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Speaker 3: And so anytime you look at these things, the Titans.

985
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 10: Are in a situation where they feel like they have

986
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 10: their franchise quarterback, right, you got cam Ward and now

987
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 10: it's about building whatever team that you want to beyond that.

988
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 10: You thought you were building one direction with Callahan. Now

989
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 10: you're kind of switching gears. But thankfully obviously not you

990
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 10: would rather that not happen. But thankfully at least, like, okay,

991
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 10: it's one year, there's not a ton of damage because

992
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 10: the worrisome part A lot of times when you know,

993
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 10: I evaluate teams with team building and things like that,

994
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 10: is like you'll get two years into an era with

995
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 10: one coach, and you have two draft classes and two

996
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 10: free agencies and two significant roster cuts, and like all

997
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 10: of these parts of the roster are in one head

998
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 10: coach's image and then.

999
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: You have to try to uproot so much of that.

1000
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Speaker 10: So I still think that they have a lot of

1001
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 10: flexibility and having the fourth overall pick, and obviously, and

1002
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 10: you know, honestly having a defensive minded head coach, it

1003
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Speaker 10: leans into this fourth pick being very, very valuable for

1004
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 10: them because this is a defensive heavy draft. I think

1005
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 10: maybe three fourths to this draft in the top one

1006
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 10: hundred could be defensive players. Like that's how deep the

1007
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 10: defense is compared to the offense. And so obviously, like

1008
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 10: the Titans are going to want to continue to acquire

1009
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 10: playmakers and things like that, and they you know, they

1010
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 10: have some offensive line questions and final answers that they

1011
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 10: might want to get to, but ultimately all of that

1012
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 10: to get to that fourth overall pick, you'll have options

1013
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 10: of David Bailey, Rubin Bain, Caleb Downs, like all of

1014
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 10: these players excellent for what the Titans want to build

1015
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 10: around moving forward. And so it's just there's a lot

1016
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Speaker 10: of I didn't even mention Rvo Res Arvo Reice obviously

1017
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 10: another option there for them. And so the good thing

1018
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 10: for the Titans is when you start doing mock drafts

1019
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 10: to start looking at scenarios and you have your group

1020
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Speaker 10: of like, Okay, let's let's say it is let's say

1021
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Speaker 10: we'd be happy with David Bailey, Rubin Bain, rvel Ree,

1022
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Speaker 10: Caleb Downs.

1023
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Speaker 3: We're good with that.

1024
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Speaker 10: Well, guess what you pick fourth, worst case scenario, one

1025
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 10: of them is going to be there, and we obviously

1026
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Speaker 10: know Fernanda Mendos is going to number one.

1027
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Speaker 3: So at least two of them are going to be there.

1028
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Speaker 10: So you feel pretty good about the flexibility of what

1029
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Speaker 10: you could have at number four.

1030
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Speaker 5: Yeah, because having a top five pick, you have one

1031
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 5: your shot at one of the blue chip prosperracts. This yes,

1032
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 5: by the way, blue Chip committee.

1033
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Speaker 3: Very good, Thank you, I appreciate it. I appreciate it.

1034
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Speaker 5: Man.

1035
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Speaker 3: This guy that the second check is also thank you.

1036
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Speaker 5: Let me ask you this though, and you're right, it's

1037
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Speaker 5: littered with defensive starter's depth all of those things. It's

1038
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Speaker 5: a high floor type of draft. What if you went

1039
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 5: offense at number four? What if you went because here's

1040
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 5: the thing Robert sala at As introductory presser said, we

1041
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 5: want to build something around camboard where he doesn't have

1042
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 5: to superman sixty plays per game. What if Jeremiah Love

1043
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 5: is the pick at number four.

1044
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 10: So I think the thought around running back is first

1045
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 10: and foremost when you talk about running back being worthy

1046
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 10: of a top ten overall pick, they have to be

1047
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 10: able to affect a passing game right in a very

1048
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 10: positive manner. Jeremiah Love does okay, so he checks that box.

1049
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 10: He's not Christian McCaffrey. I've seen some people be like, oh,

1050
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 10: he's Chrisian McCaffrey. I don't think he's Chritian McAffrey is

1051
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 10: a wide receiver. But when you look at the total

1052
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 10: athleticism that he has, what he could be after the catch,

1053
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 10: the type of receiver that he could be, and help

1054
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 10: how he can help the passing game because having that

1055
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 10: value and like being a quarterback's best friend out of

1056
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 10: the backfield, it's not just about being a good running back,

1057
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 10: which he is. You also have to be a receiving

1058
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 10: option as well. You have to be again, I'm not

1059
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 10: calling you Christian McCaffrey, but what McCaffrey brings to the table,

1060
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 10: which ameir gives, what Bjon Robinson, what they bring to

1061
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 10: the table. Those are running backs that are worthy of

1062
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 10: top ten, top twelve overall picks. And for Jeremiah Love, yeah,

1063
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 10: I mean all of a sudden, I think that you

1064
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 10: feel really good about a one to two core there

1065
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 10: with him. I would say that with picking a running

1066
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 10: back in the top ten, you also have to think

1067
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 10: about what your realistic winning window is going to be

1068
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 10: as a team, because you would like to maximize them

1069
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 10: playing on their rookie contract as well, So you have

1070
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 10: to kind of think there's a little bit of a

1071
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 10: financial aspect that goes into it. Now, some fans obviously

1072
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 10: might be listening to this, and I can understand where

1073
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 10: they're coming from because I get this sometimes too.

1074
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 3: Hey just pick the good player, right.

1075
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 10: I mean, the Titans are at a spot where they

1076
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 10: kind of need to do that, right. They just they

1077
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 10: need to acquire really top tier talent. And when you

1078
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 10: talk about blue chip players, it's funny that you mentioned

1079
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 10: that term specifically. I would tell you there are very

1080
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 10: good prospects in this class. Right there are guys who

1081
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 10: I think are gonna be impact players, who are gonna

1082
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 10: be really good starters. I love Caleb Downs, I love

1083
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 10: Ruben Bain, I love those guys. I think here's one

1084
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 10: blue chip player in this class, and I think it's

1085
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 10: Jeremy Love. I think he is the lone blue chip

1086
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 10: player in this class where I go, you can't really

1087
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 10: miss with this guy. If you tell me he's gonna

1088
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 10: be healthy, I think he'll be a top five, top

1089
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 10: three back in the NFL for the majority of the

1090
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 10: first two contracts that he's gonna have.

1091
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 9: Wow, I love it.

1092
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: I love it.

1093
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 6: Looking at some of those other offensive options Trevor and

1094
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 6: at wide receivers specifically, I think Robert Sala said it

1095
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 6: well when he talked about the reasoning behind bringing in

1096
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 6: Brian Dable is it's going to be a little bit

1097
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 6: different from the Shanahan scheme. It's going to be something

1098
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 6: different for defensive coaches like him to prepare for. When

1099
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 6: you look at the type the Titans may covet at

1100
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 6: wide receiver, is there a name or two that stands out,

1101
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 6: whether that is at four for a Carnel Tate or

1102
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 6: a Makay Lemon there or at pick thirty five where

1103
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 6: it feels like there is a lot of depth at

1104
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 6: the wide receiver position. When you think Brian dabole receiver,

1105
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 6: what stands out to you?

1106
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 10: So when I think of I just I think very

1107
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 10: highly of who Brian Dable is A is an offensive

1108
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 10: mind overall, I think that he knows a lot. He's

1109
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 10: been in a lot of really great programs in college

1110
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 10: and also in the NFL. I think he's I think

1111
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 10: he's very valuable with what he's able to do with

1112
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 10: his offensive talent. So instead, I think the best coaches

1113
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 10: are able to look at the players that they have

1114
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 10: and build their scheme around the players that they have. Right, So,

1115
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 10: I don't think Dabol is going to be this guy

1116
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 10: where he's trying to put a round peg into a

1117
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 10: square hole or whatever the exact phrase is there. He

1118
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 10: is going to he is going to try to build

1119
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 10: his offense around what he has. And with that, I

1120
00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 10: think that to answer that question, you kind of have

1121
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,720
Speaker 10: to start. The starting base is what you already have. Okay,

1122
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 10: you have el Kio Maynor, who I was a big

1123
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 10: fan of in last year's draft.

1124
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 3: I loved alkaio manor. I think that he is.

1125
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 10: I think he could be a really great sort of

1126
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 10: like contested catch X receiver for you, somebody who could

1127
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 10: play on the line of scrimmage. I love him as

1128
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 10: a blocker. The further away he gets from that knee

1129
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 10: injury that he had in college, I think that the

1130
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 10: more you'll see that track background speed show up where

1131
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 10: he can be a little bit of a vertical guy

1132
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 10: for you. But most of the time, I think he's

1133
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 10: more of that on the line of scrimmage X contested

1134
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 10: catch type of a wide receiver. You them have Shei

1135
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 10: Mari DK who obviously has a great special teams for

1136
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 10: you as a pro bowler, but he is also somebody

1137
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 10: who I think he's really great in the intermediate middle

1138
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 10: of the field as a slot player, So you have

1139
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 10: somebody who's very quick there who can handle those those roles.

1140
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 10: Gunner Helm obviously is a plus as well, coming from

1141
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 10: the tight end spot. Just I think that he could

1142
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 10: do a lot of different things. He's pretty natural and

1143
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 10: versatile enough of his an athlete. But a role that

1144
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 10: I did not mention there is a true vertical threat

1145
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 10: type of a wide receiver, right that is what is

1146
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 10: missing in this offense. And so as as much as

1147
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 10: I like Jordan Tyson, I like McKay lemon, I like

1148
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 10: Carnell Tape, I would probably tell you that hates maybe

1149
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 10: the guy that I would like the best there out

1150
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 10: of that group if you were to go with one

1151
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 10: of them at number four, But I would actually probably

1152
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 10: rather wait on that vertical role. I know we're talking

1153
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 10: about draft, but like something that I've talked about with

1154
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 10: my colleagues is like Alec Pierce, the wide receiver who's

1155
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 10: with the Indianapolis Colts. I mean, like he'd be extremely

1156
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 10: high on my free agency list if I was at

1157
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 10: Tennessee Titans, because he really completes that wide receiver room

1158
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 10: and then allows you to draft whoever you want best

1159
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 10: player available at receiver, whether it's at four or later

1160
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 10: in the draft. But you know, you look at guys

1161
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 10: like maybe you view Malchi Fields from Notre Dame that way,

1162
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 10: maybe Chris Brasel, the second from Tennessee, who's a fantastic

1163
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 10: vertical threat type of a wide receiver. I mean there's

1164
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 10: guys later in the draft who are vertical burners as well,

1165
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 10: but that to me is the archetype of receiver that

1166
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 10: I think rounds out the players that they already have

1167
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 10: that they're excited.

1168
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 4: Another guy that's been talked about a lot in that

1169
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 4: role would be a Chris from Louisville. But he's got

1170
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 4: the injury that he had late in the season. How

1171
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 4: big of a setback is that for him, Trevor, how

1172
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 4: much does that hurt him?

1173
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 5: Say?

1174
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 3: Come draft time?

1175
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 10: Well, I think that some people were viewing him as

1176
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 10: a potential first round pick, and obviously he's not going

1177
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 10: to be a first round pick.

1178
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: Now, You're not gonna take.

1179
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,959
Speaker 10: A guy whose basis of his game is his explosiveness

1180
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 10: is athleticism, and you just you don't even know if

1181
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 10: what you're gonna get out of him this year because

1182
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 10: I think he didn't he tear his ACL I think

1183
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 10: it was like in December.

1184
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: I mean it was late.

1185
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 10: It was late in that twenty twenty five years. So

1186
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 10: there's a chance where, I mean, this is a full

1187
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 10: medical red shirt year for him, and you don't really

1188
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 10: want that. I have certainly a first round pick. I

1189
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 10: know the Titans wouldn't pick him a number four, but

1190
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 10: I think to their advantage that's that's something that then

1191
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 10: you discuss in round two and round three as a

1192
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 10: possibility potentially for them there because yes, he's a great

1193
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 10: vertical threat, but he's also a great yards after catch

1194
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 10: type of a wide receiver as well.

1195
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just.

1196
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 10: Want to think of cam Ward of course, like he's

1197
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 10: a quarterback who can get the ball in a lot

1198
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 10: of these guys hands for yards after catch work and

1199
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 10: things like that, but he wants to hit the man.

1200
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,760
Speaker 10: I mean, like Cam Cam wants to hit the big shots,

1201
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 10: and he's got the arm to do it, He's got

1202
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 10: the talent to do it.

1203
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 3: Uh, they just got to surround him with the right

1204
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 3: players to do it.

1205
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 5: Eighteen point seven yards per catch in his career Alec Pierce.

1206
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's where you're Yeah, that's that's that's that's

1207
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 4: when he's.

1208
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 5: Not catching twenty balls a year, like it's a good sample.

1209
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, yeah, especially this past season. I mean he

1210
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 3: was unbelievd to talk about having.

1211
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 5: Twice a year.

1212
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 10: We yeah, yeah, but they could be dreams, you know,

1213
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 10: the nightmares.

1214
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: They can be dreams.

1215
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 5: Absolutely. So this is you've mentioned how big a defensive draft.

1216
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 5: This is. I think something that gets overshadowed in this

1217
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 5: draft because there's so many edge pass rushers, there's so

1218
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 5: many of the interior defensive linemen, corners, safeties, whatever. Off

1219
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 5: ball linebacker excellent.

1220
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 3: It's sneaky good, yeah, isn't it. No, it's really good.

1221
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 10: And and again when I talk about potentially, you know

1222
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 10: something near three four, so the top one hundred might

1223
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 10: be defensive players. Linebacker and then safety are a big

1224
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 10: reason why say that, because it's not very often you

1225
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 10: get years where linebacker, true off ball linebacker and then

1226
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 10: safety are deep. This year, these guys are very deep.

1227
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 10: I mean off ball linebacker you've got. Depending on how

1228
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 10: you view Rville Rees, I view him more as an

1229
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 10: off ball linebacker than I do an edge rusher. Actually,

1230
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 10: I see him more as like just truly like an

1231
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 10: apex predator type of dude, where I want him in

1232
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 10: space and I want him to run because that's where

1233
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 10: he's at his best.

1234
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 3: He's a linebacker that rushes the past. That's what I like.

1235
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 10: That's what I think with him, And obviously you can

1236
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 10: get edge rush work out of him, but if you

1237
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 10: have him as an off ball linebacker, I mean the

1238
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 10: someone who I compare his game to right now is

1239
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 10: like what Edgrin Cooper is for the Packers and what

1240
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 10: Edgerrind Cooper was for the Aggies where they just let

1241
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 10: him be a downhill linebacker like go Hunt.

1242
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 3: And when this.

1243
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 10: Guy when he when he gives himself the green light

1244
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 10: and he goes, Okay, now I'm going to attack the ballcarrier.

1245
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 10: The closing speed that he has. It's very similar to

1246
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 10: like what r Bill Reese is able to do. But

1247
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 10: so you talk about him, you talk about Sonny style,

1248
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 10: he's talking about CJ Allen, You talk about guys like

1249
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 10: Cincinnati's Jake Golde, Kyle Lewis from Pittsburgh, Jacob Rodriguez from

1250
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 10: Texas A and M Right. I mean, like just so

1251
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 10: many of these Deontay laws and from Alabama, so many

1252
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 10: of these off ball linebackers that could be potential starters

1253
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 10: for you. So, yes, this is a I know they've

1254
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 10: got Sedric Gray and Sedria Gray played incredibly well last season,

1255
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 10: but you can absolutely compliment him and get to the

1256
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 10: depth part of this defense with with another off ball

1257
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 10: linebacker and capitalize in a good class.

1258
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 11: Trevor.

1259
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 6: As we go through this process and boards start to

1260
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 6: change and guys start to rise, who is the player

1261
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 6: or two for you whose stock has risen the most?

1262
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 6: NFL Stocking Change podcast. Who's stock has risen the most?

1263
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 6: Maybe from the end of the college football season to now,

1264
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 6: oh end of the college football season to now I'll

1265
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 6: tell you a guy who maybe it's a little bit

1266
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 6: more towards end the season, but like Vega Iwana from

1267
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 6: Penn State, the guard is I think he's probably the

1268
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 6: best true guard in this class. I think that the

1269
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 6: handwork that he has, how great he is in pass protection,

1270
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 6: how he can be a mauler at some times and

1271
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 6: he can be very light on his feet the other times.

1272
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 6: I mean that is somebody who I think has has

1273
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 6: risen up boards big times. A guy that I mentioned already,

1274
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 6: Malchai Fields, the wide receiver from Notre Dame. I mean

1275
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 6: he is somebody who's I think he's had a great offseason.

1276
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 6: He had a really good showing when he was at

1277
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 6: the Senior Bowl. He really was able to stand out there.

1278
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 6: I think Caleb Banks from Florida was sort of at

1279
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 6: the Senior Bowl able to remind people like, hey, God

1280
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 6: doesn't make many six foot six, three hundred and thirty

1281
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 6: pound guys like me, and he was able to showcase

1282
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 6: that I think there. Max Ianicher, the offensive tackle from

1283
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,959
Speaker 6: Arizona State, I mean that dude, what he was able

1284
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 6: to show he was the best offensive tackle at the

1285
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 6: Senior Bowl. I mean I thought he was. I thought

1286
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 6: he was.

1287
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 3: Unbelieve day two and day three.

1288
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 10: It was a little bit up and down for him

1289
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 10: on day one, but day two and day three from Maxianicher,

1290
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 10: I don't know if you lost a rep.

1291
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 5: And he never played high school football.

1292
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 10: He never played high schoo football, and he's still agreeing

1293
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 10: to the position. And so if if you get him

1294
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 10: with a good offensive line coach, I think he's got

1295
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 10: started potential written all over for him. So those are

1296
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 10: a couple of guys that come to mind.

1297
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: Me.

1298
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 10: Zion Young from Missouri had a great Senior Bowl as well.

1299
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Speaker 10: Derek Moore, the edge rusher h from Michigan had a

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Speaker 10: really good Senior Bowl. Uh oh, somebody who Sam Hecked,

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Speaker 10: the center from Kansas State. I'm mad at myself that

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Speaker 10: I didn't know more about Sam Hecked before we got

1303
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 10: to the Senior Bowl because he started for two and

1304
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 10: a half years for Kansas State. I watched him day

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00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 10: one at the Senior Bowl and he is handling dudes.

1306
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 10: Didn't matter what what you're It didn't matter where you're.

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Speaker 10: A power dude, a finesse dude, whatever. I mean, the

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00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 10: anchor ability, the balance, the core, strength, the hands, the technique, everything.

1309
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Speaker 10: I left Mobile thinking that's the best center in the draft.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a bet. That's the beat. We talk

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00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 3: about Connor lou maybe from Auburn. Now he's coming off

1312
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 3: of the injury.

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00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 10: But like Jake Slaughter from Florida, there's a couple of

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00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 10: guys at center. But like I watched Sam hecked and

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00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 10: I was just like, again, I didn't see you lose

1316
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 10: a rep. If you lost one, I must have missed it.

1317
00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 10: I think that's the best center in the draft. So

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00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:00,919
Speaker 10: those are a hand full and names and just come.

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00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 5: To my mind.

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Speaker 4: I love Will's question because, as you can see, this

1321
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 4: guy has so much passion for what he does. A

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00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 4: couple of my colleagues are constantly talking about food, and

1323
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 4: I'm grilling him on.

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00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 3: The field before a college football game.

1325
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 4: His family is trying to get me to come play

1326
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 4: golf with them in Tampa, and I'm grilling him at

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00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 4: his wedding about these types of questions.

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Speaker 3: Here's a really important question before you leave.

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Speaker 4: Okay, to Will's question before the combine starts to after

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Speaker 4: it's over, what changes the most historically and your experience

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00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 4: coming here?

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Speaker 10: I would say the way are you saying, like from

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00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 10: prospects or just in general, like the way that you

1334
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 10: evaluate these players, the way that the teams evaluate the

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00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 10: players as well.

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Speaker 4: When they come here they thought this, and when they

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00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 4: leave they thought that you included.

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Speaker 10: Yes, eminem medicals and measurables. Those are the two things

1339
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 10: that matter the most here, right Like, look, I love

1340
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 10: the drills. I love him watching these guys fly high,

1341
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 10: run fast, bench a lot, like it's fun. I enjoy

1342
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Speaker 10: doing that. But that's not the most tangible part. The

1343
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 10: tape is the most tangible part for these prospects. It's

1344
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 10: the official measurements. What's the arm length, what's the overall weight?

1345
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Speaker 10: For example, this is off the top of my head.

1346
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 10: Caden Proctor, right, Caden Proctor, the offensive lineman from Alabama.

1347
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Speaker 10: There's all sorts of talk about, Okay, is he a guard,

1348
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 10: he's the attackle?

1349
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Speaker 5: What is he?

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Speaker 10: I care about what he shows up at it with

1351
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Speaker 10: his weight, because if he shows up between you know,

1352
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Speaker 10: three sixty three seventy five something like that. All of

1353
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 10: a sudden, I get a little bit worried. It's like,

1354
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 10: all right, well, are you just too big to play

1355
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 10: offensive tackles? Now you got durability concerns, you got foot

1356
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 10: speed concerns, You're just gonna have overall conditioning concerns. But

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Speaker 10: if he shows up and he's like, hey, after the

1358
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 10: season's over, I got in the lab, I trained, I

1359
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 10: hone in my diet. I'm a lot closer to like

1360
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 10: three forty three fifty. All of a sudden, I go,

1361
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Speaker 10: now I'm back in. Now we're back in. You had

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Speaker 10: a really good year down the stretch for Alabama, and

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Speaker 10: now I'm talking about you as a top twenty prospect

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01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 10: instead of somebody that I might have to be worried

1365
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 10: about from that perspective. So, like, those are little things

1366
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Speaker 10: where I can watch tape and we at PFF, we

1367
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 10: just have so many data points, all these like I

1368
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 10: can do all that stuff at home, But getting the

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Speaker 10: official measurables, getting the official medicals on players, that's the

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Speaker 10: stuff that always changes the most because that's where you

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01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 10: get a lot of the shift and where guys are

1372
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Speaker 10: and mock drafts and big boards and things like that,

1373
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 10: because then you take those things and you go back

1374
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Speaker 10: to what is the tape, and you go, Okay, he's

1375
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Speaker 10: got longer arms than I thought he did.

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Speaker 3: Now do I see him win with long arm? More

1377
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Speaker 3: on tape?

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01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 10: And maybe I noticed something that I didn't before, or

1379
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 10: vice versa about guys being outliers or having shorter measurables

1380
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 10: and things like that. So to me, that is always

1381
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 10: the most tangible. I mean, I love so much about

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Speaker 10: this event. This is my favorite week of the year

1383
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Speaker 10: for so many reasons. But that is the most tangible

1384
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 10: scouting takeaway that we have is those medicals, the measurables,

1385
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Speaker 10: and then it's always fun getting to hear these guys

1386
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Speaker 10: the podium and get to put a face to all

1387
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Speaker 10: the tape as well.

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Speaker 4: I'm proud of you, brother. This is great to really

1389
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Speaker 4: catch up with you and get all this information. Obviously,

1390
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 4: your podcast is crushing it. Pro Football Focus is crushing it.

1391
01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 4: Thanks you handle all of the people in your life

1392
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 4: well self included, and thank you for your time.

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Speaker 3: Of course, brother.

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Speaker 10: I always enjoy getting the link up with you guys,

1395
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 10: and I appreciate you having me.

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Speaker 2: All right, We really talked to so many different people,

1397
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Speaker 2: and you're going to hear it on the OTP on

1398
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Speaker 2: Titans Radio as we continue down this journey to the Draft.

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Speaker 2: But there's one more that we have to sneak in

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Speaker 2: for no other reason than he is a mainstay on

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Speaker 2: this show.

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Speaker 1: It cannot be the Draft without Charles Davis. It just

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Speaker 1: doesn't exist.

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Speaker 5: A gentleman of sports.

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01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: Yes, we talked to him every single year.

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Speaker 3: Titans TV Zone.

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Speaker 2: Titans TV Zone. You can see him in the preseason.

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01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 2: He hangs out with us. He's called our games over

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Speaker 2: the years.

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Speaker 3: Called a lot of them last year.

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Speaker 1: Called a lot of them last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a friend of all of ours, and it's

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Speaker 2: great to have him on the show because, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the man dives deep into the draft. So let's wrap

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Speaker 2: things up here with this conversation with Charles Davis.

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Speaker 4: We are with the great Charles Day of NFL Network,

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01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 4: of CBS Sports and say that again the hold on

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Speaker 4: I'm not doing and of the Tennessee Titans television broadcast.

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Speaker 3: How lucky you are mine?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 11: How fortunate am I I really am? And I know

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01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 11: it can sound trite sometimes, but every now and then

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01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 11: I think we all kind of take account of ourselves.

1424
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 11: And you know, we all have difficult days, right, we

1425
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 11: all have days we're oh my god, road's beating me

1426
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 11: up and this is happening, and that's happening. But let's

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Speaker 11: be honest about it, don't We always have a little

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01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 11: moment of clarity and there we go.

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Speaker 9: This is pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: This is pretty cool.

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Speaker 11: This is something we've all been chasing for our lives. Anyway,

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Speaker 11: love what you do, do what you love.

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Speaker 5: You'll never work a day in your life. Amen. Amen.

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Speaker 4: And for many years you have been evaluating the NFL

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01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 4: draft also as an NFL broadcaster, but of course for

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Speaker 4: many years you also were a college football commentator, and

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Speaker 4: you're going to do that again.

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Speaker 3: So this time next.

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Speaker 4: Year, we're actually going to get you after you have

1440
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 4: really seen these guys up close and personally. And I'm

1441
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 4: excited about that. Having done the Tennessee Titans games in

1442
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 4: the preseason and seeing how young this football team was

1443
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 4: last preseason, clearly this is a team that is building

1444
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 4: right now. How much how passionate do you think Mike

1445
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 4: Borgonzi in the front office is about getting another draft

1446
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 4: class similar to the lost one you saw.

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Speaker 11: I think you used the exact word they're passionate, right,

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01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 11: and how passionate they are and what they're pursuing. Okay,

1449
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 11: because last year's draft class gave some nice gave some

1450
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 11: nice work, right, gave.

1451
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Speaker 9: Some some big moments.

1452
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Speaker 11: You got one of them went to the Pro Bowl,

1453
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 11: Jim raydkay right as a kick returner. Continue to expand

1454
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 11: him as a receiver. But when you start to add

1455
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Speaker 11: to it and you start to stack classes together, I'm

1456
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 11: thinking to myself about some of the recent ones who

1457
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 11: have done a really nice job of stacking them together

1458
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Speaker 11: even when things were tough. And I'm gonna give you

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Speaker 11: my best example is what I think, and now gus

1460
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 11: to this Houston Texans, because when Nick Casserio took over

1461
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 11: that team right as the general manager, they were bloody awful, okay,

1462
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 11: And he started to put together draft classes, right, draft

1463
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 11: class here, draft class here, some free agent signings here.

1464
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,919
Speaker 11: But the record wasn't showing it. They were still three

1465
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 11: and whatever they were foreign, whatever they cycled through coaches.

1466
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Speaker 11: Here comes David David Cully. There's a lovely smith here.

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Speaker 11: I mean, my goodness, I think they went four and four, right.

1468
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 11: Bill O'Brien to David Cully to Lovey Smith to Tamico

1469
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 11: Ryans says, Damiko Rans has gotten there. He hit it

1470
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Speaker 11: the right time because those classes were starting to come together, right,

1471
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 11: they were starting to become veterans, and now they're big

1472
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Speaker 11: time players for them. And now they have one of

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01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 11: the best defenses in the NFL. They have a young

1474
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 11: quarterback that, despite the fact he had a rough playoff game,

1475
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 11: is an exciting young quarterback that you can build with

1476
01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 11: and make moves with. I feel like Tennessee can can

1477
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 11: gain from that. And that's why I called analogous. You

1478
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 11: start to put together things before everything comes to fruition.

1479
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 11: The Chicago Bears did it all right, Ryan Poles. Go

1480
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 11: back and look at the draft classes prior to them

1481
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 11: hiring Ben Johnson and did all coalescing together. Not just that,

1482
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 11: Look at what they did free agency, all right, go

1483
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 11: get to Joe Tooney to set up your offensive. And

1484
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 11: we can go on all day with what I should

1485
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:25,200
Speaker 11: say all day because a lot of teams don't do

1486
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 11: it very well. Those teams are a couple that just

1487
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Speaker 11: come to mind immediately. I think that this is where

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Speaker 11: Mike Burgonzi, Chad Brinker, they have that opportunity to kind

1489
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 11: of emulate that because last year's class is pretty good.

1490
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 11: All right, those young kids came out and gave them

1491
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 11: some good play. Now things have to continue to get better.

1492
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Speaker 5: Charles Davis, This is the event that precedes free agency,

1493
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 5: which comes before the eventual NFL Draft. So we don't

1494
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 5: know what the Titans are gonna do in free agency yet.

1495
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 5: But as a former defensive back yourself, I want to

1496
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 5: talk about some of the dbs because it's a good

1497
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 5: year if you want a cornerback or safety for not

1498
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 5: just the Titans, but anybody who stands out to you

1499
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Speaker 5: in his class.

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Speaker 11: Well, look, you know, you guys know when you've heard

1501
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 11: of Tennessee. So it sounds like a Homer deal. But

1502
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 11: McCoy and Hood or two of the highest rated corners

1503
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 11: in this draft. McCoy's is McCoy's medicals, and we're here

1504
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 11: in Indianapolis. He's not gonna do anything, I'm pretty sure,

1505
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 11: but his medical check is gonna be huge. Teams are

1506
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 11: just waiting. Okay, where is he right now? Last I

1507
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 11: had heard that they fully not fully. Last I heard

1508
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 11: he was tracking towards being able to do a lot

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Speaker 11: of things on his own.

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Speaker 5: Pro dat.

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Speaker 11: If that's true that his medical probably should be pretty good,

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01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 11: but you're also taking it off of like he's medical

1513
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 11: didn't play at all last year? Which way do I go?

1514
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 11: How do I feel about that? Blah blah blah. But

1515
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 11: everyone I talked to has him a lot of people

1516
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 11: in the top top corner on the board. All right,

1517
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 11: second corner. But if medicals check, he's gonna be He's

1518
01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 11: gonna be one of those people. I do think safe wise,

1519
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 11: Caleb Downs is gonna make for a very interesting discussion

1520
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 11: from from Ohio State because he's probably a top five

1521
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 11: or ten pick in this draft in so many different ways.

1522
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 11: But we have gotten into where Derwin James, Kyle Hamilton,

1523
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 11: and Nick emun woory now embody what we're looking for

1524
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 11: Nickel and he's not that guy, all right, He's not

1525
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 11: gonna play the same way. He's going to do a

1526
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 11: lot of other things really well, but he's not gonna

1527
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 11: run what Emn Worriy ran. He's not as big as

1528
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 11: Derwin James, he's not as long as Kyle Hamilton, but

1529
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 11: he's a very good player. Now, where does he go

1530
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 11: in this draft? Is he still a top ten guy

1531
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 11: or does he go outside the top ten? Because when

1532
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 11: we're talking about safeties, who's the last safety we drafted

1533
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:50,919
Speaker 11: that high? Wasn't it what's his name at LSU? Adams

1534
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 11: like Jamal Adams big him a six. The best thing

1535
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 11: he did was blitz. Wasn't to cover guy Tad log Dings,

1536
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 11: but when he when he was on his game with

1537
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 11: the Jets and then with Seattle who he had nine

1538
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 11: half sacks one year.

1539
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 9: But that is that?

1540
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 11: Is that what you're getting from you say, I'm not

1541
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 11: sure that's quite where we're wanting to go with that one.

1542
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 11: So so that's why safeties have not been ranked that high.

1543
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 11: But this young man out of Toledo, how come? I

1544
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:17,679
Speaker 11: I want to make sure I get his name.

1545
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 5: Right, Emmanuel McNeil Warren, Thank you, Misterledo Rocket.

1546
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 11: He is a good player, all right, and again doesn't

1547
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 11: seem to be the three that I talked about, but

1548
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 11: I think he could be build wise, speed wise, But

1549
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 11: the way he's been deployed in Toledo, he's been much

1550
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 11: more of a high safety, single high come down. But

1551
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,679
Speaker 11: I think he can drop in the box and play

1552
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 11: and his athleticism can can wow me. And whenever they're

1553
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 11: doing it, Toledo they're doing it really well. I think

1554
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 11: they got three dbs in this draft, might even be

1555
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 11: three DB's here. And before that we got Quinnion Mitchell,

1556
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 11: we got Max and Hook. They're doing some really good

1557
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 11: things there and their head coach really benefited because he

1558
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 11: ended up getting the.

1559
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 3: Yukon John's right coach and Jason Kendall.

1560
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 6: When you look at edge pass rusher and you think

1561
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 6: of a Robert Salla four to three defense again, I

1562
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 6: personally may envision a bigger built Ruben Bain junior type.

1563
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 6: Robert Saul has also been a part of an organization

1564
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 6: in New York that drafted Will McDonald. But with their

1565
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 6: first round pick, how do you separate those top edge

1566
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 6: rushers and what might make sense for the Titans with

1567
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 6: the fourth.

1568
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 11: Overall, that's a great one, isn't it? Because I think

1569
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 11: you kind of hit it with Bailey out of Texas Tech.

1570
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 5: Who you had in your mock. You just dropped right, yep.

1571
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 11: And he's much more a linear build, right. Ruben Bain

1572
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 11: is the out of Miami who's the blocky, power, beat

1573
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 11: you up type of a guy. You know, you guys

1574
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,799
Speaker 11: know what it's like. In this draft process, we nitpick

1575
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 11: like crazy, right, because we start out like these guys

1576
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 11: is the great ist, this guy's this, that that, and

1577
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 11: then we have so much time before the draft. You know,

1578
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,719
Speaker 11: his arms might be a little bit short exactly, his hands,

1579
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 11: eye might not be this, and you know I saw him,

1580
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 11: and then when we get closer to the draft, we

1581
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 11: go back, he's really great. This guy's fantastic. That's what

1582
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 11: I kind of see with these these edge rushers. We're

1583
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 11: going to start to nitpick him to death. David Bailey, Okay,

1584
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 11: his big year was at Texas Tech. He was at

1585
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 11: Stanford before, but he wasn't blowing people away at Stanford.

1586
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 11: Hey Bain, love what he does. But he really had

1587
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 11: the big run through the College Football Playoff because the States.

1588
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 11: In the beginning of the season he was a monster,

1589
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 11: and then kind of mid season, and then the end

1590
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 11: of the season he was a monster again. But his

1591
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,679
Speaker 11: arms might be a little bit short. I like them both.

1592
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 11: I don't think Robert slo Is gonna care about whether

1593
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 11: I take the linear or if I take the He's

1594
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 11: gonna take who they're gonna He and Burgans are gonna

1595
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 11: decide which guy they like best, and then he'll deploy

1596
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 11: them because whoever they take. Remember Robert Soli's system and

1597
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 11: what he wants the most is to let his back

1598
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,759
Speaker 11: seven not have to be involved in rushing the passer.

1599
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 11: He wants his back seven playing. He wants his front

1600
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 11: four to be the motor that drives everything. And if

1601
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 11: you got those guys up front just going to getting people, now,

1602
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 11: your back seven can play the games, do the things

1603
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 11: that you want to think about His teams Jets forty

1604
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 11: nine ers. Do you ever think about a linebacker? Do

1605
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 11: you every think about off edge gout? You know an

1606
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 11: off ball edge guy that that really got involved in

1607
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,640
Speaker 11: the new He wants those front four sick them and

1608
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 11: he wants a lot of them.

1609
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 5: Well, charge of rotation, you've just described the key who's

1610
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 5: won the last two Super Bowls, and for the Titans

1611
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 5: specifically in a conference loaded with quarterbacks. That's how you

1612
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 5: beat Josh Allen at Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson and

1613
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 5: the list goes on with waves and three four un

1614
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 5: lets your other guys do the rest.

1615
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 11: And and and rotating your waves like like like we're

1616
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 11: all I think we're all hoops fans, right, So you

1617
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 11: want to be able to sub in that guy go

1618
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 11: get the next with sub in and go get the

1619
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 11: next with now. That sounds great, but you have to

1620
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 11: go find them, you have to develop them, you have

1621
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 11: to go He's been able to do that. That's why

1622
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 11: the forty nine has survived this year.

1623
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 4: Before you go ced, you spent a lot of time

1624
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 4: with Robert Sola and coaches meetings. You spent some time

1625
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 4: with Gus Bradley and Brian Davil and those coaches meetings

1626
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 4: as well. One are the Tennessee Titans getting I'm.

1627
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 11: So happy because I'll just speak for me. These are

1628
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 11: guys that in my time frame, people you can talk to,

1629
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 11: people you can learn from, excellent teachers.

1630
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 3: All right, They're not just walking around.

1631
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 9: We'll do this.

1632
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 11: They're really good teachers. They're very specific about what they

1633
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 11: want from you. They're also really demanding about what they

1634
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 11: want for you. Because Bradley's like the nicest guy you're

1635
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 11: ever going to meet in your life until you're not

1636
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 11: giving him what he wants. And I'm not saying he

1637
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 11: turned into a screamer.

1638
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 5: Or a yeller.

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 11: I love that, but he is a guy that here's

1640
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 11: what we want, we're going to get it. Plus is

1641
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 11: I understand Roberts Saliz probably canna still call defenses. What

1642
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 11: a sounding board to have a former defensive coordinator right

1643
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 11: there who can handle all the stuff that you need

1644
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 11: to do as a coordinator while you're doing head coaching

1645
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 11: things and you never have to worry about speaking in

1646
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,599
Speaker 11: a different language. I think they all knit together very well.

1647
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 11: And I think cam Ward's drive, cam Ward's you know,

1648
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 11: thirst for success, his unquenchable desire to be great, matches

1649
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 11: so perfectly with Brian Dabole. All he's got to do

1650
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 11: is pick up phone and call Josh Shalling and ask

1651
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 11: Kim Boom. I mean that came together because Josh wanted

1652
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 11: to be great and Dave's wants him to be great,

1653
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 11: and he's not gonna let you take a day off

1654
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 11: in your pursuit of it.

1655
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 3: We're pumped, CD. We can't wait to see you now.

1656
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 3: I love those guys. I'll to sear you go in Nashville,

1657
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,640
Speaker 3: Tennessee in a few months. Thank you, sir, Thank you

1658
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Speaker 3: very much. I cannot wait.

1659
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Speaker 2: So many good things happening in Indianapolis at the combine

1688
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 2: throughout this week. I'm really looking forward to getting back

1689
01:15:56,240 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 2: to Nashville and starting what feels like the real pre

1690
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 2: draft process. This kind of kicks everything off, and then

1691
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Speaker 2: we're starting with official visits. We're going to start to

1692
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: see some of those rumors swirling. We're also going to

1693
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 2: have a new league year starting soon, so there's going

1694
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 2: to be some roster changes just across the league that

1695
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,520
Speaker 2: are all going to impact what's.

1696
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: Happening in the draft in a couple weeks.

1697
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 2: Because free agency is a thing, so all of this

1698
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 2: is going to really start to swirl together and churn,

1699
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: and so I'm really excited to kick this whole thing off.

1700
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 2: And i know we're going to have so much coverage

1701
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 2: here on the OTP and on Titans Radio and everywhere else,

1702
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 2: but I'm ready to go home and get this thing going.

1703
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: Before we go, though, there is some news that we

1704
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: have to.

1705
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 2: Discuss because Adam schefter is reporting that the Tennessee Titans

1706
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 2: are acquiring defensive end Jermaine Johnson from the New York

1707
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: Jets in exchange for defensive tackle to Andre Sweat. Just

1708
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 2: a man man switch. Let's talk about one thing that's

1709
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:07,240
Speaker 2: important to note before we go through this. This is

1710
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 2: not official yet. Paperwork has been submitted. However, nothing official

1711
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 2: can legally even happen before March eleventh, at three o'clock

1712
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 2: PM Central Time, when the new league year starts.

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Speaker 1: So anything that you hear, for the most part in the.

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01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 2: Next days weeks is not official until March eleventh. So

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01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 2: having said that, what do we think, Gret, You've done

1716
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 2: a little bit of research.

1717
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: What do we know about Jamie Johns?

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01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 5: So Jermaine Johnson twenty sixth overall pick in the twenty

1719
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 5: twenty two NFL Draft and was one of the big

1720
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 5: long defensive end pass rushers here three years ago, four

1721
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 5: years ago. I should say that tested pretty well at

1722
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,200
Speaker 5: the combine. So he's six' five and changed two fifty

1723
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 5: four eighty three inch wingspans when he's a long, player

1724
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 5: ran four or five eight and the forty here did

1725
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 5: not run a three cone. DRILL i would be interested

1726
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 5: to see what that short area of quickness, was because

1727
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 5: in the first ten yards of that forty one five

1728
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,919
Speaker 5: five just a little over one and a half, seconds

1729
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 5: that's flying, moving that's explosiveness for a guy that. Big

1730
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 5: he has appeared in forty seven games as A New York.

1731
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 5: Jet titans fans might remember In week two of the

1732
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four season At Nissan, stadium he tore his.

1733
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 5: Achilles he did not play the rest of that. Year

1734
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:37,599
Speaker 5: one hundred and seventeen tackles in his career thirteen career Quarterback.

1735
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 5: SACKS i think he had a pick six against The

1736
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 5: browns earlier in his. Career so those numbers don't exactly

1737
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 5: jump off of the, page but you have to take

1738
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 5: into considerations two. Things he lost all of a year

1739
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 5: basically with an, achilles and Then Robert sala likes to

1740
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 5: rotate guys in and out in his defensive, Front so

1741
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 5: those two things are a. Factor but The titans get

1742
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 5: a young player who is really explosive first, step who

1743
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 5: has a long guy can reach around a dude and

1744
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 5: pull a quarterback, down which is exactly what they're looking.

1745
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 4: For, yeah that's, right you nailed, it and you know

1746
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 4: they need more pass rushers will AND i think there'd

1747
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 4: be a lot of enthusiasm about that once it does become.

1748
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 4: Official But Jeff, simmons coming off of the career year

1749
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 4: that he, had you need other people that are rotating

1750
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 4: in and out of that lineup that can impact the

1751
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 4: quarterback to Help jeff And Jermaine johnson's a great example of,

1752
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 4: that who obviously has familiarity in this.

1753
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 3: System.

1754
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 6: Right two THINGS i like the most About Jermaine. Johnson,

1755
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 6: FIRST i like his versatility as a player that is

1756
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 6: going to weigh IN i think with The jets around

1757
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 6: to sixty to sixty. Five he's played around that weight

1758
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 6: for a lot of his. Career you have versatility to

1759
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 6: fill both of the roles That Gus bradley described that

1760
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 6: his introductory press conference about what this defense. Values you

1761
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 6: have a pure pass rusher with speed and get off

1762
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 6: on one, side and you have maybe a bigger built

1763
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 6: defensive end on the other side who can kick inside

1764
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 6: on third. DOWN i See Jermaine johnson as a little

1765
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 6: bit of both and as someone that can play With

1766
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 6: Fimio ladejo or maybe WITH i don't, Know Ruben Bain.

1767
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 6: Junior if you decided to take him with the fourth overall.

1768
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:19,640
Speaker 6: Pick he can fill kind of both types, there so

1769
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 6: that's number. One, secondly the Way Brian dable talked about

1770
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 6: last year when he was the head coach of The

1771
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:29,560
Speaker 6: New York giants wanting Cam ward to be his. Quarterback

1772
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 6: Robert sala and the forty Nine, ERS i think were

1773
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 6: one of those. Teams according to report From Connor hughes

1774
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 6: of s And y And New, york they tried to

1775
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 6: trade For Jermaine johnson last season In San, francisco and

1776
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 6: there is a credible report out there From Connor, hughes

1777
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 6: a reputable reporter In New, york saying that they offered

1778
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 6: a third round pick at the trade Deadline San francisco

1779
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,400
Speaker 6: did For Jermaine johnson last, year and The jets valued

1780
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 6: him with a second round pick value that this is

1781
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,160
Speaker 6: a player that in trading Dev Andre, sweat it is

1782
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 6: one thing to get value back and say it was

1783
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 6: a second or third round pick for Dev Andre. Sweat

1784
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 6: there is no guarantee you're getting the guy that you.

1785
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 6: Love if you wait Until night two of THE Nfl

1786
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 6: draft to pick an edge rusher that you really. Like

1787
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 6: Jermaine johnson is an edge rusher That robert solid really

1788
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 6: likes and according to a report wanted last year In San,

1789
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 6: francisco that is a guarantee of you have worked with this,

1790
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 6: person you know how they, operate you know how they

1791
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 6: fit in your. SYSTEM i like that better than waiting

1792
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 6: until night too and hoping that a pick that you

1793
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 6: recuperate ends up being the guy you.

1794
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 5: Like.

1795
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 4: Well and as you just, Said, amy in the next,

1796
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 4: month a lot of different things are going to happen

1797
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 4: with The, titans who have the most money to spend

1798
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 4: in The National Football, league and you know because of,

1799
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 4: that there's going to be.

1800
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 3: A lot of movement with The.

1801
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,600
Speaker 4: Titans and you just, Said, okay if The titans Have

1802
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 4: Jermaine johnson as a pass, rusher how does that impact

1803
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 4: what they? Do and rhtt that is going to be

1804
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 4: fascinating to. Watch you who has such a deep passion

1805
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 4: for this Coach mack and you go through this entire.

1806
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 4: Thing you have a very thick binder over there that

1807
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 4: has hundreds of pages in that, binder and it is

1808
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 4: it's going to be interesting to. See, okay if The

1809
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 4: titans go sign this offensive, lineman what does that? Mean you,

1810
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:15,040
Speaker 4: know The titans if they are to get a center

1811
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 4: in free, agency or they are to go get a

1812
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 4: deep threat in a wide, receiver what impact does that

1813
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,120
Speaker 4: have on day one or day? Two you all the

1814
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 4: way up here in the, car we're talking. About, man

1815
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 4: there's some RECEIVERS i really. Liked it could be here day,

1816
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 4: two day, three that's gonna be.

1817
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 5: Fascinating, well and you bring up the important part of it,

1818
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 5: chronologically because obviously the new fiscal year and free agency become.

1819
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 5: First we're two weeks less than two weeks away from

1820
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 5: that right. Now and because of the way The Collective

1821
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 5: Bargaining agreement works that you have to meet a certain

1822
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:49,560
Speaker 5: threshold of spending over a three year, window The, titans

1823
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 5: The New York, jets oddenly, enough and about four other

1824
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 5: teams are ones who have to spend an extra fifty

1825
01:22:55,240 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 5: million bucks to reach that. Threshold so the is. Going

1826
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 5: and that's something you just touched on that we haven't

1827
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:07,719
Speaker 5: even talked. About Is Lloyd cushionberry's released from the, Team Xavier,

1828
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 5: woods the safety released from the. Team they're going to

1829
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 5: need a starting center for Cam ward on this offensive,

1830
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:14,640
Speaker 5: Line so there may be a plan with whoever that

1831
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,480
Speaker 5: is that might be lurking in the potential free agency

1832
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 5: to take care of. That but, there you knew this

1833
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 5: offseason was going to be. Interesting and then your new head,

1834
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 5: coach STUD gm who's going in year two and his

1835
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 5: lieutenants who have been general managers in other. Places, yes

1836
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 5: and then this new head coaching staff that has one

1837
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 5: hundred and thirty nine games as head coaching.

1838
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 1: Experience it's Bass.

1839
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 7: Bonsers it's really.

1840
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 5: Wild and THEN i think about What will said earlier

1841
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:51,400
Speaker 5: that in a video game analogy here it's like What

1842
01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:55,400
Speaker 5: Bucky brooks, said and even With Trevor sikima said about

1843
01:23:55,439 --> 01:24:00,120
Speaker 5: maybe A Jeremiah love at Four Tech mobile would in

1844
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 5: nineteen eighty, Five nintendo was the. Bomb loved It love Techmol. Bomb,

1845
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:07,839
Speaker 5: WELL i gave you an Old.

1846
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 3: Schools it was really.

1847
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 4: Good it could not Stop Bo jackson in that.

1848
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 3: Game and it's old.

1849
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 5: Eight bit, graphics so it's pixelated. Looking it looks like

1850
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 5: it looks Like. Minecraft, yeah in, motion and you're, Right Bo.

1851
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 5: Jackson and if you had The Bears Willie, galt, man

1852
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 5: if we Had Willy galt From Tecmo bowl for Cam

1853
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 5: ward on The field's there's gonna be. Touch you're gonna

1854
01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 5: be calling touchdown calls like by. Bananas but it's interesting

1855
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 5: how there it sounds like a return to an older

1856
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 5: identity BECAUSE i was there for all Those titans games

1857
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 5: and they would get off the bus and they would

1858
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 5: hit you in the mouth and they would.

1859
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 2: Leave it's, Great that's exactly WHAT i. Want that's ALL i. Want,

1860
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 2: yes walk in.

1861
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 5: And they would do of winning in the. Process, yeah,

1862
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 5: yeah because he Because will's. Right, uh THE Afc central

1863
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 5: predates him as a human. Being my, gosh it was

1864
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 5: a war every.

1865
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 6: Week and, TWO i think that you are seeing the

1866
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 6: other three teams in our division also return back to, that.

1867
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 6: RIGHT i mean the other Day Robert salo was asked

1868
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 6: about how do you evaluate this? Division he, said, well

1869
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 6: first of, all The texans are gonna punch you in the.

1870
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 6: Mouth The, colts When Daniel jones was, healthy was the

1871
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 6: best team in football this. Year and The Jacksonville jaguars

1872
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 6: had great quarterback, play and we're really fun to watch

1873
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 6: on both. Sides you've got great line of scrimmage play

1874
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 6: on all three of those, teams some of, them a

1875
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:34,160
Speaker 6: couple of them have it on both. Sides houston really

1876
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,000
Speaker 6: has it on, Defense indy really has it on. Offense

1877
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 6: you got to go get big football players that can

1878
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:43,719
Speaker 6: win you. Games and the last Two Super bowl winners

1879
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,719
Speaker 6: are the perfect example that you rush. For you drop

1880
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,600
Speaker 6: seven and, Say jeff, friends go get. Him we'll be

1881
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 6: back here and cover the pass like. It that's how

1882
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 6: teams are winning.

1883
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 5: Right, back and goes back to What robert saw said

1884
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,759
Speaker 5: the day he was introduced as the head. Coach fast.

1885
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 5: Violent there you.

1886
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 4: Go, YEP i love. It my sinuses are clear, still oh,

1887
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 4: yeah and my heart is.

1888
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 2: Full well that's all we can ask. For you, know

1889
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 2: thantails are.

1890
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 3: Delicious, well, yes the stomach is definitely.

1891
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 1: Full lots of eating on this. Trip, well, GUYS i

1892
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 1: appreciate all the hard.

1893
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 2: Work we, uh we got a lot accomplished up, here

1894
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,120
Speaker 2: and there is there's a lot more to do when

1895
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 2: we get back To. Nashville so For, Rett, brian For Will,

1896
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 2: bowling For taylor's ours Or I'm Amy.

1897
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: Wells we are signing off From, indianapolis. Folks we're headed

1898
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 1: back

1899
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 2: To, nashville where we will have a lot more of

1900
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 2: bott