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Speaker 1: It's time for a little thought experiment, a brief one.

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Speaker 1: I want you to picture that you've never seen an

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Speaker 1: I mean you are in ancient times. Ancient times. There's

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Speaker 1: You've never seen one. You've heard rumors about them, but

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Speaker 1: think about this, right, what are you thinking? Okay, so

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Speaker 1: apparently we have monsters in the world, right, what would

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Speaker 1: Hannibal Barka. I am extremely saddened to announce that while

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Speaker 1: doing some reading, I discovered that Hannibal Lecter, the character

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Speaker 1: swan dive off a building. Hannibal was not a serial

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Speaker 1: killer from a scary movie. Hannibal Barka is one of,

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Speaker 1: if not the greatest generals who ever lived, but made

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Speaker 1: us rewind briefly. We are in the Mediterranean world. Now,

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Speaker 1: this time, but Rome is not Rome yet. Rome is

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Speaker 1: Just the different mentality, now, Hannibal, Hannibal was good at it.

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Speaker 1: something they did. They trained their elephants their war elephants

423
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: were specifically trained for war, unless you had young ones

424
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: without very much training. And if you have young elephants

425
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: without very much training, and that elephant gets spooked and

426
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: loses its mind, and are you picturing an old battlefield

427
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: and everybody standing close together with spears and swords, And

428
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: are you picturing what exactly would happen if your own

429
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: elephant lost its mind and turned around and studed ripping

430
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: through your own people. Well, remember I said Scipio was

431
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: a young hotshot, easily one of the greatest generals ever

432
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: as well. He planned for this. He planned for everything.

433
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: He had his Roman troops opened up their lines so

434
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: an elephant could not just storm through and smashed twenty

435
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: at a time. He also brought in massive trumpets that

436
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: were loud. Apparently they were very very loud. Again, talk

437
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 1: about things you would want to see. I want to

438
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: see that. I want to see Hannibal sending in his

439
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: elephants first, which he did, and Scipio pulling out trumpets

440
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: and blaring it at the elephants, and apparently the elephants freaked,

441
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: turned around, tore through Hannibal's left flank his own elephants.

442
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: Hannibal's Hannibal's cavalry took off to fight Scipio's cavalry, only

443
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: Scipio this time, for once, had more. The fighting took

444
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: place away from the main battle, so Hannibal didn't know

445
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: what was happening. Scipio's cavalry kicked the crap out of him,

446
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: partially because Hannibal always used Numidian cavalry. Now, I don't

447
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: expect you to know anything about media, just know it's

448
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: basically attached to Carthage. They were the best horsemen in

449
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: the world, especially for light cavalry. Hannibal always used them.

450
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: Only by this time they were sick of being ruled

451
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: by Carthage, and they switched sides again. When it's over

452
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: for you, it ends quickly. So Hannibal's men are fighting,

453
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: they're fighting valiantly, and then Scipio's cavalry returns and smashes

454
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: into the rear of Hannibal, wipes Hannibal out. You never

455
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: know the real numbers when it comes to these old things.

456
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: They estimate twenty five thirty thousand Carthaginians dead. Scipio lost

457
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: like four thousand. It sounds worse than it is. Understand

458
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: when it comes to these ancient battles, especially, people were

459
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: definitely dying when they smashed into each other with shields

460
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: and such like you see in the movies. But they

461
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: weren't dying that quickly. It's if you were to line

462
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: yourself up in front of me, and you were to

463
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: put armor on your shins in a big armored chest plate,

464
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: maybe some armor on your arms, a big thick helmet,

465
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: and then a big shield, and I give you a spear,

466
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: and then I put on all the same stuff. Do

467
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: you understand that, yes, we could hurt each other really badly,

468
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: we could kill each other badly, but even trained soldiers,

469
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: it's difficult to land a killing blow when everything you

470
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: wear plus your shield is specifically designed to prevent me

471
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: from landing a killing blow. It's violent, it's ugly, it's bloody.

472
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: We would be cut up, we would be exhausted. At

473
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: some point, one of us would probably jam that spear

474
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: through the other's eye, which actually happened there. It's written down.

475
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: That's one of the ways people got killed, just one

476
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: of the only vulnerable parts out there. But again, if

477
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: you're experienced at all and we're fighting like that, I

478
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: know you're trying to hit my eye. I have my

479
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: shield up. What I'm telling you is, it's not like

480
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: in the movies where you just run out and Brad

481
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: Pitts in Troy playing Achilles and he pulls out a

482
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: sword and just slices down ninety people before anyone can move.

483
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: It's difficult to kill someone who's in front of you

484
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: with a shield up trying to kill you too. It's

485
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: just it's not as easy as it sounds. Where the

486
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: death came in these old old battlefields. The death came

487
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: in the retreat. The death came when you and I

488
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: are fighting and I throw my spear down and turn

489
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: around and run the other direction. Because I'm scared. Now

490
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: you're spearing me in the back. Now your horsemen are

491
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: spearing me in the back. And that's why the casualties

492
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: were so bad for her. Hangg On, Our stories nut

493
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: quite done. Now hannibal story wasn't done. He didn't die

494
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: at the Battle of Zama. He actually went back and

495
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: pretty much took charge of Carthage. As you can imagine,

496
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: he was well thought of back then the Punic the

497
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: Second Punic War was over, and as you can imagine,

498
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: he wasn't really well thought of in Rome. Now when

499
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: I say not well thought, I've understand this. The Romans

500
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: hated Scuts. The Romans wanted him dead. The Romans were

501
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: going to do everything humanly possible to make sure he

502
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: was dead. But you can hear. I mean, most of

503
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: the writings we have about Hannibal, the Roman writing, they're

504
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: not Carthaginian writings. The respect comes off the paper. You

505
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: could tell Romans respected the fact this dude was a

506
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: man child, an absolute beast. But eventually, because if you

507
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: thought the sanctions from the First War were bad, they

508
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: were nothing compared to the Second Punic War. Essentially, the

509
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: Second Punic War, the sanctions were so bad. The Romans

510
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: were essentially guaranteeing We're just going to come right back

511
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 1: here really soon and kill you all. Consider this a

512
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: brief brief break from us slaughtering you. We'll talk about

513
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: the third one here in a little while, not on

514
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: today's show, at another time the but Hannibal eventually gets

515
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: run out of town because Rome's like, ah, have Hannibal lead,

516
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: and now you have the aging general going all over

517
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Speaker 1: the Mediterranean. Hang on the Jesse Kelly Show. This is

518
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: the Jesse Kelly Show. Full disclosure. I hadn't really it's

519
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 1: not now. It's not like I plan anyway. I don't

520
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: plan things. I hadn't really planned undoing Hannibal for the

521
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: first hour that was supposed to be about twenty minutes. Look,

522
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: I can't do coronavirus all the time. People, I love Hannibals.

523
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: I is ball with it. I went with it. Now,

524
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: how did Hannibal end well? Bounced around? And when I

525
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: say bounced around, when you're Hannibal Barca and you're not

526
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 1: welcoming Carthage anymore. They got their own problems. There's still

527
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: a market out there for somebody who's made an entire

528
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: lifetime beating the crap out of Romans. That was not

529
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: something a lot of people did. So he was essentially

530
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 1: a hired gun, a hired consultant, various kings who wanted

531
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: to rebel against the Romans. Or we're trying to hold

532
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: off the Romans. Hannibal show up and hey, you're looking

533
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: for a hand here. I know, I know how to

534
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: do some of this. Then you get hired on and

535
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: run out, and hired on and run out. But eventually

536
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: Rome caught up with him. You see, Rome didn't forget

537
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: about Hannibal. Then his story ends in a way that

538
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: has always bummed me out. You know, I get bummed

539
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: out when these great generals, when these great men, when

540
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: they die in ways that I don't view or appropriate.

541
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: But what is appropriate if we all got to go,

542
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: what is an appropriate way? I wanted Hannibal to die

543
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: with a spear in his hand. But he dies on

544
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: the run like a common criminal, as the Romans are

545
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: chasing him down all over the place. Finally finds himself

546
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: hold up in a villa. The Romans have surrounded the villa,

547
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: Hannibal has poisoned with him. Hannibal says, quote, let us

548
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: now relieve the Romans of their fears by the death

549
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: of a feeble old man, and he drinks their poison

550
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: and Hannibal dies. Now, what was Hannibal's critical mistake and

551
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: all that? What was it? Hannibal was doing fine, Everything

552
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: was working out fine until Hannibal decided he wanted to

553
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: start promising people protection. Protection is the death of freedom,

554
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: not just of Hannibal and his freedom to march all

555
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: over Rome and kick the crap out of everything. As

556
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: soon as you tie yourself down, as soon as you

557
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: make commitments of protection, so often throughout history there are

558
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: a million examples of it, you have doomed yourself. What

559
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: are we dealing with right now? Obviously coronavirus right And

560
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't need to belabor the point at this exact

561
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: moment about how disastrous I think these lockdowns have been.

562
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: But really, if you want to get down to it,

563
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: it's not just the debt we've piled up, It's not

564
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: just the job loss. It's not just the suicides we're

565
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: already seeing skyrocket alcohol abuse. Alcohol sales are through the roof.

566
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm not judging you've been doing it too much myself. Drugs.

567
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: I've been huge into drugs, I'm kidding him, and huge

568
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: in drugs, but still child abuse, spousal abuse, it's been horrible, right.

569
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: But beyond that, what we did was our government, federal, state,

570
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: and local government. They made a decision at the very

571
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: beginning of it, and that decision was quite simply this.

572
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: They told the public that they would be protected. And

573
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: now that Genie doesn't go back in the bottle. Now

574
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: we're at a point where people were realizing how disastrous

575
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: and destructive these shutdowns are. And you see places like

576
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 1: like Texas. I'll talk about them in a few they're

577
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: gonna start opening up and other states are gonna follow suit,

578
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: and we're gonna start opening up. But here's the problem.

579
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: You promised me I would be protected. And as soon

580
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: as I get that in my mind as a citizen,

581
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: that's tough to unravel. As soon as I get that

582
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: in my mind as somebody in the government, I have

583
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: to protect them. Well, how do you look at them

584
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: now and say I can't protect you anymore. I need

585
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: you to go back to work. We have these food

586
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: supply chain problems. Tyson came out and said, hey, we're

587
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: about to have a big meat problem. We're having a

588
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: huge meat problem in Smithfield there, I believe, the biggest

589
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: producer of pork in the country. They said, yeah, not

590
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: only are we having a supply chain problem, my workers

591
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: don't want to come to work now. They feel like

592
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: they've been unfairly put upon. And why wouldn't they feel

593
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: that way? The government told all of America, everybody stay

594
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: home or it's unsafe if you leave you if you

595
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: leave your house, it's unsafe. If you don't stay home,

596
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna die. Stay home, everyone's gonna die. Oh, what's that?

597
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: It's May first, all right, everybody back to work. Well

598
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: wait a minute, so I'm not gonna die anymore? Has

599
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 1: that changed? Is that different? Now you've got these workers

600
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: at Smithfield, I'm not even I'm not even criticizing them. Well,

601
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: I don't blame them. Well wait a minute. You've told

602
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: everybody they have to stay home where they're gonna die.

603
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: But I have to go to work. How's that work?

604
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: That promise of protection is going to be a millstone

605
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: around our neck for the foreseeable future, and it is

606
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: going to take time, and it is going to take

607
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: commitment to unload it. It is, and you know what else,

608
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: it's going to take it's going to take politicians being

609
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: willing to step up and tell people hard truths they

610
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: don't want to hear. You know, I'm all about those, right. Remember,

611
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: I'm not your mommy, I'm your daddy. I'm telling you

612
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: the way things are. It's going to take a politician

613
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: stepping up to the microphone and saying you are not safe.

614
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: Life is not safe. This virus is not going to

615
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: be gone tomorrow. It's not going to be on May first,

616
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: June first, July first. And you know what, if history

617
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: is any indication we might have a second wave that's

618
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: worse than the first wave, we are going to do

619
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: everything we can to take the appropriate precautions. But you

620
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 1: have got to get back out there and live your life.

621
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Speaker 1: And you know how many politicians are going to say that,

622
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: let's start at zero and work our way up from there.

623
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: Even here in Texas where I live, Governor Abbott good governor,

624
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: happy with him. He's opening up, right who Texas is

625
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:32,479
Speaker 1: opening up a kind of Abbot said, This is from

626
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: Texas Tribune dot org. First to open this is going

627
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: to be Friday retail stores, restaurants, movie theaters, and malls.

628
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: But they will only be allowed to operate at twenty

629
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: five percent capacity. Well, that's not opening, that's dipping your

630
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: toe in the water to see if it's safe. Abbott

631
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: said a second phase of business reopenings could come as

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Speaker 1: soon as May eighteenth, as long as the state season

633
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: I quote two weeks of data to confirm no flare

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Speaker 1: up of COVID nineteen end quote. So we're going to

635
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Speaker 1: get back out there slowly at twenty five percent capacity

636
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: as long as it's safe. Again, that's not hard truths, Frankly,

637
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 1: and again I'm an Abbot fan. That's not leadership. That's

638
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: dipping your toe in the water. That's telling the public.

639
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: I promise I'm going to protect you. We have got

640
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: to shake this mentality or it's going to be our doom.

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00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: The Jesse Kelly Show, if I were to tell you

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00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: that if you leave the house today, you walk out

643
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 1: your front door today, there is a fifty percent chance

644
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna die the second you breathe fresh air. And

645
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 1: I tell you that, and I bring up a doctor

646
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: to tell you that. Doc steps up there, white lab coat.

647
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,959
Speaker 1: If you leave the house, fifty percent chance you're dead.

648
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: And then I bring in a scientist and he says

649
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: if you leave the house, fifty percent chance you're dead.

650
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: And I show you a study and it says, if

651
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: you leave the house, fifty percent chance you're dead. And

652
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: I tell you this day after day after day after

653
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: day after day, and now the time comes I need

654
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: you to go get the mail. I am I going

655
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: to convince you to go get the mail. We are

656
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: facing now an issue where we need to open. We

657
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: need to open like yesterday. Let's just acknowledge that, but okay,

658
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: we need to open right now. And we've told everybody

659
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: they're going to die or their grandma's going to die

660
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: if they leave the house. And the problem is we're

661
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: telling people to open without telling them they need to

662
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: change their mindset. You don't need to go get the mail.

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00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: That's not what I need to tell you. What I

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00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: need to tell you is, okay, there's no longer a

665
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: fifty percent chance of you dying. Go outside. You see

666
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: the difference. We need a mindset change. And these politicians

667
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: lack the leadership, maybe lack the political capital whatever, maybe

668
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: they lack the balls to put it too frankly, but

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00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 1: they need to lead. They need to stand up and

670
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: tell people, okay, there's a very tiny percent chance you're

671
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: actually going to get sick and die from this thing.

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00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: Get back to work, and nobody wants to do that.

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00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: And you know why they don't want to do that.

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00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: As long as we're offending everybody again today, Chris, because

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00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 1: we live in the scared suburban mom society. Don't yell

676
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: and scream at me. Well, you're welcome to Jesse at

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00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show dot com, Jesse at Jesse Kelly show

678
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: dot com, or you know what. You're welcome to call

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00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: in eight seven seven three seven seven four three seven

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00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: three eight seven seven three seven seven four three seven three.

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00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: You're welcome to scream at me. I don't mind people

682
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: to disagree with me. You're welcome to agree call email,

683
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: that's fine. But I am in this white suburbia society. Okay.

684
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 1: So I'm speaking from experience, not just things I've heard

685
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: from people, although I've heard plenty of that. I'm telling

686
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: you how I personally live. I am not in Washington,

687
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: d C. I am not in New York City, much

688
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: as I love New York City. I am in the

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00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: suburbs of Houston, Texas. I am surrounded by these suburban

690
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: moms and what we have now is the hand sanitizer society.

691
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: We have the suburban moms who run their homes and

692
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be running their homes. Ah, you can't say that,

693
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: Screw you. I can say anything I want. It's my show.

694
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: I can say anything I want, and I'm grateful. I've

695
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: never been told stop saying that. Oh we've gotten in trouble.

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00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it again, though. And once you

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00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: let that happen, once you left the scared suburban mom,

698
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: make all the calls, honey, with your permission, can I

699
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: go golf with my buddies this Friday? Well, then you

700
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: get what we have now. You know what both parties

701
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: try to go after in every single election nationally, suburban moms.

702
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 1: You know what suburban moms want. They're not evil people.

703
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: Actually not crushing them as much as I'm crushing men.

704
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: You know what they want, Well, what every woman wants

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00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: safety protection. A woman uniquely cares for her children. My

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00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: wife does. It's wonderful. It's a wonderful thing. I wouldn't

707
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: change it for the world. But if your whole life,

708
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: if all the decisions get made based on protection, then

709
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:35,280
Speaker 1: you never live. My wife may not want my boys

710
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: to do back backflips off the trampoline because somebody make

711
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: it hurt. And to be honest, I look at it too,

712
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: and I think someone might get hurt. But I let

713
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: it go because you gotta live. Getting hurts part of life.

714
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 1: And we have now run our politics as nobody should

715
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: get hurt if it saves one life. What kind of

716
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: illogical insanity is that you can't torpedo a three hundred

717
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: and thirty million person nation if it saves one life.

718
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: What kind of mindset is that it's the scared suburban

719
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: housewife society. That's what we live in now. It is.

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Speaker 1: I don't care how mad it makes you. It is.

721
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: I caught I'm going to my Facebook group. I just

722
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: caught two teenage boys riding bikes without helmets. I just saw.

723
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Speaker 1: I'm not making these up. These are all real. In fact,

724
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: they're all from my area. I just saw five boys

725
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: playing basketball in the public park. I've already called the police.

726
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: We need to get these basketball hoops removed so these

727
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: kids can't play anymore. Chris, do we have the audio

728
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: of the teacher yelling at the kids out playing. I'm

729
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: not making things up, people, These this is where we

730
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: live now all about protection? Does anyone know if the

731
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: gate is fixed? Listen to this. This is a lady

732
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 1: yelling at two teenagers outside playing This lady's also a teacher.

733
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Speaker 1: That's maybe lad enough. You can hear me over your music.

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Speaker 1: You get arrested in the last we come over there?

735
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: Can we go over there? Who area get it through

736
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: your thig? You are the reason we are in this

737
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 1: its reason. You are the problem, not the solution. Why

738
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: keep recorded? Are gonna show it to? Let's do on

739
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: social media? You're an idiot doing the only thing. I'm

740
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: just trying to see. If you're asking, I didn't edit

741
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: that on my life. That's not one of Chris's little parodies.

742
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: That's a real person. That's and you can see the video.

743
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: It's all over online, you know what. Chris post that

744
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: video on the Jesse Kelly Show Twitter feed so people

745
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: can watch this deranged lunatic too. If you want to

746
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: follow the show, it's at Jesse Kelly Show on Twitter.

747
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: If you want to follow me and I'm amazing, it's

748
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: at Jesse Kelly DC on Twitter. It's King Suburban Mom

749
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: right there. Obsessed protective anxiety written. Everybody has to be safe.

750
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: We can't live like this ah with a husband who

751
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: won't say, Okay, enough of that. Stop you owing at

752
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: the teenagers. Let the boys play woman. That's what we are.

753
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: We have to do a complete shift of this society

754
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: in the way we think. And that is difficult because

755
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: it seems insurmountable, doesn't it. I could hear what you're

756
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: saying right now, Well, how are we supposed to do that? Well,

757
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: like everything, one step at a time. Start in your house,

758
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: Start with your neighbors, start with your kids. Remember, next

759
00:58:34,080 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: generation is theirs. Joining me now somebody who has been

760
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: on top of this thing from the beginning, and he

761
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: and I share some of the very grave concerns we

762
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: have from here going forward. Political strategist friend of mine,

763
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: Dave Reeboy Dave, what's going on in the Trump White House? Hey,

764
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: I've got I've got no idea. It's like, from what

765
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: it seems like, from one day to the next, they're

766
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: they're on a good path, and then they go and

767
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: they do something that's a little silly, and then they're

768
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: back on the right path the next day. Um, Honestly,

769
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Speaker 1: I can't say that that I blame them all that much,

770
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: considering what the polling is probably looking like and they're

771
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: looking at the polling. Obviously they want to um uh,

772
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,479
Speaker 1: they want to be on the side of the American people.

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01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: They want their policies to be popular. UM. I understand

774
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: that everyone does. Who's who's who's in politics. UM, but

775
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: I think they're looking at these numbers from from polling

776
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: House that's seeing that you know, eighty percent of of

777
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Speaker 1: of Americans are supporting um, kind of draconian lockdowns and

778
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, the equivalent of infinite detentions of

779
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Speaker 1: the economy, and they're saying, you know, they're kind of

780
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Speaker 1: I think they're scratching their heads, like we are, thinking

781
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: what exactly is going on here? Because um, it's it

782
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: seems to um, it seems to be beyond belief that

783
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: most Americans are are willingly and happily driving this country

784
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: into you know, into into another depression. UM. So I

785
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: think that play their confusion. Where do you stand on

786
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Speaker 1: that as far as what the country believes, because let's

787
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: let's just be honest, I would be totally frank with you,

788
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: as you know, uh, never do I have I said

789
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: something like this before, but I am genuinely extremely disappointed

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01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: in the majority. I guess you could call it of

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01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: my countryman, because you're right, Poll after pole after pole

792
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: shows Americans are fine with this. As we drive the

793
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: country into a great depression, Americans are still cheering this on.

794
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: Are we different? Is there bad information? What happened to America? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I think that's the issue

796
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: that a lot of us are are are grappling with here. Um,

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01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that the people who I you know,

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01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: we all we all live in bubble to to a

799
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: great extent um. But but the people who I interact

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01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: with are very concerned about the economy. Uh. They're not

801
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: unconcerned about about you know, potentially getting the virus and

802
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: and uh and getting sick and dying. But they're also

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01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: they also seem to be aware that this can't go

804
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: on forever, or else we destroy our you know, you know,

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01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: in addition to our economical life, our civic life in

806
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Speaker 1: this country. I don't know. I mean, I think something

807
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: has has definitely happened over the last uh ten twenty

808
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: years or so to the American psyche. On one hand,

809
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: what happened, Dave, what happened to the American psyche? What

810
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: I need to know. I can't figure it out. Is

811
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Speaker 1: it is it? I have been calling it the scared

812
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: suburban mom society that we live in now. Is that wrong?

813
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 1: Off base? I think? I think that's perfect. I think

814
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: that's perfect. Um. I would I would even um add uh,

815
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Speaker 1: you know, add add some some men to that formulation. True,

816
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: because it's right. I don't think it's I don't think

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01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: it's exclusively moms, but it's that, you know, it's it's

818
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: that attitude. I think that that. Something I observed recently

819
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: was that for a whole segment of the population educated

820
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Speaker 1: in the last you know, let's say twenty twenty years

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Speaker 1: or so, there's no comprehension of a catastrophe or an

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Speaker 1: apocalypse that is not natural. So we think of climate change,

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Speaker 1: we think of all these kind of scary things that

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Speaker 1: that you know, the the left has told us it's

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01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: going to destroy society and it's going to be terrible,

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Speaker 1: and the ocean's rising, and you know, and and all

827
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Speaker 1: kinds of terrible things coming from nature. But we lost

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Speaker 1: our sense of history, and we lost our our imagination

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Speaker 1: for how to wrap our heads around what happens when

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Speaker 1: there is an economic depression. I think that our great

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01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: grandparents and our grandparents, um you know, have you know

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Speaker 1: many of them, most of them have have left us,

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01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: and they're the last one who remember it being really

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Speaker 1: really bad economically. Now, this is a special case, you know,

835
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Speaker 1: as you know, because on one hand, so many people

836
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: are out of work, an insane amount of people are

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Speaker 1: out of work, but they also can't find other jobs

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01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: because everything is closed. So you know, it is an

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Speaker 1: unprecedented situation. And you would think, you would think that

840
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: that people would have had enough of this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I've been out there screaming. I know you have.

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Speaker 1: We've been saying pretty much the same thing for the

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01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: last you know, for the last two months now, that

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01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: at a certain point the American people will get tired

845
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: of this. And I guess the answer is that they

846
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: haven't gotten tired of it. I mean, I'm certain that

847
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: they will. I'm certain that they'll be fed up at

848
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: some point when the bottom really drops out. It's just

849
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: a matter of I mean, how depressing is the thought

850
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: that you may have to wait until you know, until

851
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,919
Speaker 1: you know, the real horror show out there goes on

852
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: before before there's a there's a change in sentiment Dave.

853
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to believe this. I firmly believe Donald Trump's

854
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: reelection chances are in dire, dire straits. I'm not cheering

855
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: for that. I voted for him last time. I'll vote

856
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: for him again, happily. I'll try to convince others to

857
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: do so. But fifty thousand votes is the reason he's president.

858
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: That's it. And if you have thirty million unemployed people

859
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: in November, I think he's toast Am I wrong? I

860
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: don't think you're wrong, Oh, I mean I unfortunately, I

861
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: agree with you completely. Um, I think that you know,

862
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: obviously I'm going to I'm going to vote to to

863
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: to reelect the president, and uh and I'll support those efforts. Um,

864
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, it's it's it's it's it's it's

865
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: not looking it's not looking good. And I don't think

866
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: he helps himself, for example, by uh bye bye um

867
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: talking about reopening on one hand, and then going back

868
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: and sort of proving that he was initially misled about

869
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: two million dead and some of those kind of um

870
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: absurd numbers and projections that came out initially, that that

871
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 1: sort of caused all this, um, the fact that he

872
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 1: still believes that, Um, you know that that we avoided

873
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: a major um kind of uh, you know, to two

874
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: million type of catastrophe is is kind of dispiriting. I

875
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: thought that he would be a lot more Um, I

876
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: thought that he would be a lot more skeptical of

877
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 1: the u of the expert opinion. But look, he's dealing

878
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: with an unprecedented situation in the sense too, of the media.

879
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: And and I don't think we should forget about the

880
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: media here. We've we've thought for the last couple of years,

881
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, after after um, you know, I mean Trump's

882
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: victory was a real victory over the media itself, and

883
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 1: we thought, hey, maybe these guys have a lot less

884
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: power than we thought. And they've tried everything. They've thrown

885
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: the kitchen sink at this guy, and they haven't been

886
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: able to to to score a victory and to throw

887
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: throw Trump out of office. Um. But with this, I

888
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: think we see that they still have a whole lot

889
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: of power, and they're still able to you know, they're

890
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: still able to terrify eighty percent of Americans. UM. I

891
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 1: mean that's really That's the only way that I can

892
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: explain this. People who haven't followed politics or who don't

893
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: follow politics, who you encounter on the streets and in

894
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: and in gyms and supermarkets and and and wherever, all

895
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: of a sudden out of nowhere. You know, they knew

896
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: nothing about the virus. But then boom, one day they

897
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 1: all went and they all bought masks, and they all

898
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: became hysterics strategist Dave Reboard. Dave, thank you so much,

899
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: But friend, I appreciate you all right, you too. Take

900
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: it easy. It did come so fast, didn't it. Chris, Chris,

901
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 1: have you seen this basketball show on ESPN about the

902
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: Bulls Last Dance? You're so lame. Jordan's a little different.

903
01:08:31,360 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: Hang on. Chris is virtually worthless. I asked him if

904
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: he's seen that show, the Last Dance on ESPN, and

905
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: he says no, the white Jewish kid has not seen

906
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: that Last Dance. Jewish people don't like basketball. That's not true.

907
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: I mean, New York. What place has more Jews in

908
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 1: America than New York? New York City loves basketball. Jews

909
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: specifically of New York loves basketball. I don't know, I

910
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: don't know. I think, by shoot, I have a lot

911
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 1: of Jewish friends in New York. You know now that

912
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: I think about it. I don't think I've ever discussed

913
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: hoops with him. How about that. If you want to

914
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 1: call the show eight seven seven three seven seven four

915
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: three seven three eight seven seven three seven seven four

916
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: three seven three, feel free to leave a message. If

917
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 1: we don't answer, we ignored your call. I'm just kidding.

918
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: If we don't answer, he was probably on the line

919
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: with someone else. Just leave a message, or you can

920
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: email me Jesse at Jesse Kelly show dot com. If

921
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 1: you missed any part of the show. Remember the whole

922
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: show is podcast that at the end of every show.

923
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: It's on iHeart, It's on Google, It's on Spotify, it's

924
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: on Apples, right there on iTunes click of a button. Heck,

925
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you can just subscribe to it on

926
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:24,799
Speaker 1: iTunes and automatically download the daggm thing. Enjoy it now. Anyway,

927
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: this show lasts dance. I'm not going to ruin it

928
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 1: for you, and don't worry about spoilers. I can't spoil

929
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: it because I actually didn't see yesterday's show and see

930
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: yesterday's version of it. But one of the parts I

931
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: think it was from the first episode that really hit

932
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:45,520
Speaker 1: me is how different people are, how driven people are

933
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 1: the moral compass of people. Now everyone knows I don't

934
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: have a moral compass at all. I have no virtually

935
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: no grounding whatsoever. I'm just flapping in the wind over here,

936
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: Chris whatever, whatever I think of next. And there's this

937
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: moment in the show where Jordan, I mean, he's this

938
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,600
Speaker 1: driven kid. It's funny. He gets to North Carolina to

939
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: play college basketball and James Worthy was already there, and

940
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 1: they have James Worthy on the show and he said,

941
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 1: what he got there? I was better than him. For

942
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:20,879
Speaker 1: about two weeks. Jordan was just obsessed. He was just obsessed.

943
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: He would never stop. The dude wanted to be the greatest.

944
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 1: And he gets drafted. He goes to Chicago and apparently,

945
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 1: and I didn't know this, this was before my time.

946
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 1: I was born in eighty one. This had to be

947
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,000
Speaker 1: eighty three, eighty four, so I was not aware of

948
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: the inner workings of the Bulls when I was three.

949
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: But apparently the basketball culture there and apparently around the NBA,

950
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: if you listen to people, was really bad. When I

951
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 1: say really bad, I mean cocaine bad, like really bad,

952
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: marijuana bad, really really bad. Now I will admit full disclosure.

953
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: I'm not a cocaine guy. I would not what Chris,

954
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 1: We're not we're not allowed to talk about this. I'm

955
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: not a cocaine guy. I've I've done it one time

956
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 1: in my lifetime. Am I not supposed to talk about

957
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: this on the show? Whatever, I'm talking about it, it's

958
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: my show. I've done it one time. I thought it

959
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: was absolutely miserable. I do not get the appeal at all.

960
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 1: I was up all night. Oh yeah that, Oh it's

961
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: totally expensive to Chris. Of course you would worry about

962
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: the money. We're talking about hard drugs that kill people,

963
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 1: and Chris is like, it's expensive too. Gosh, you were

964
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 1: so stereotypical. I tell you what. Either way, do not

965
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: ever even bother trying it. I'm legitimately telling you that

966
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: I would tell you if it was fun. It was miserable.

967
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: I'll never get why people like it. You're up all night.

968
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,839
Speaker 1: I love to sleep, I love to eat. I wasn't hungry.

969
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: I think I had like ten beers. Didn't even feel it.

970
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: It was miserable, absolutely miserable. Dumbest thing I've ever did. Well, no,

971
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: actually it's not even probably top ten dumbest things. I've

972
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: ever done, but it was definitely, very, very stupid. I'm

973
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: not a huge drug guy. It's it's just not a

974
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: drug person. Don't become a drug person, especially when it

975
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 1: comes to cocaine. Cocaine is like gambling. It's one of

976
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: those things no matter how much money you make, you

977
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:26,839
Speaker 1: can go broke if you do it. Multi multi multi

978
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: millionaires have gone broke off cocaine have gone broke off gambling.

979
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: You just it's a gigantic money suck and it's horrible

980
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: for you. Absolutely. Look, I'm not your dad, you know.

981
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't moralize on the show because I'm not qualified

982
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 1: to do show. Do so. I'm worse than every single

983
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 1: one of you. Did it once. It's miserable. Don't do it.

984
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 1: It sucks. It's terrible, that said. Jordan gets to his

985
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 1: team and apparently the bulls were horrible. When Jordan gets

986
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: there and I guess he's the best player on the team,

987
01:13:55,960 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 1: basically immediately shows up. He's looking for his teammates. I

988
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: think he was going out for a bite to eat

989
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 1: or something. This is all from the show, and goes

990
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,839
Speaker 1: up to the hotel room door. Here's one of his teammates.

991
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: Hotel room doors and he gives it a knock on

992
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: the door and the dude opens it up. Let's Jordan

993
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: gets in there and there's weed everywhere, in cocaine everywhere,

994
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: in alcohol everywhere, in girls everywhere, and pretty much the

995
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: entire team was that. Jordan said, it was one of

996
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 1: those great moments, Chris, a small moment that people missed.

997
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure Jordan said pretty much or almost everybody was there.

998
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: I forget exactly what he said. Look, it was every

999
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: single person was there. You just, if you're smart enough

1000
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: like Jordan, you say pretty much everybody or almost everybody.

1001
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: Therefore giving any guy who was on that team and

1002
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: out to say, hey, dude, I wasn't there. What Well,

1003
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: I was the one dude who wasn't there. I'm pretty

1004
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 1: sure everyone else was there. So anyway, Shoot, we're running

1005
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: out of time again, these stupid breaks. Hang on a second.

1006
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,759
Speaker 1: I'll finish my story. Then we have to talk about dogs.

1007
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: I'll explain them a second. Chris, my life is over.

1008
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 1: Chris is such a degenerate or I want to be degenerate.

1009
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 1: Of course, he's, you know, this good Jewish kid. But

1010
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 1: he actually asked me during the break because we have

1011
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: the worst conversations during the break if I was putting

1012
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: if I was putting one on and lying about cocaine

1013
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: not being fun, dude, I'm I'm not lying one hundred percent.

1014
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 1: It was miserable, and I'm not the only one who

1015
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: thinks that. I've known other people who've tried it. It's miserable. Man.

1016
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm a big again. I'm not a big drug guy though,

1017
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: so maybe I'm not the one to ask. But when

1018
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 1: I get off work, I like to just chill, man,

1019
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,639
Speaker 1: I want to just chill. If you're one of these

1020
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: people who likes to bounce off the walls, you know,

1021
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 1: and you know, swing around with glow lights and go

1022
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: to raves or whatever people did, why, Chris, I've seen scarface.

1023
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:31,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you're one of these people who

1024
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: likes to do that stuff, maybe it's right up your ally. Legitimately,

1025
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,759
Speaker 1: you've never heard me tell you not to do something

1026
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,400
Speaker 1: terrible on this show, because I've done everything terrible. Don't

1027
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: bother trying it. It's sucks. Shoot. I'd be more worried

1028
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: if I liked it than if I didn't like it.

1029
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 1: The dagon stuff so expensive us you end up in

1030
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: jail it's absolutely no fun whatsoever. I don't want to

1031
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:57,639
Speaker 1: get put in handcuffs again. Chris. Oh, that's another story entirely.

1032
01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: We don't have to go into all that today. I

1033
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: don't have to break all that down, oh Josh, all right. Anyways, Jordan,

1034
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: he walks into this room and he's a rookie. I mean,

1035
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: it's the young guy on the team, and all the

1036
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 1: crap aro out of time again, Hang on a second.

1037
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly show. This is a Jesse

1038
01:17:43,600 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: Kelly show, all right. Jordan walks into the room. Whole

1039
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:12,679
Speaker 1: teams there, cocaine, weed, alcohol, women everywhere, right, and Jordan says,

1040
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: I'm leaving, And he turns around and leaves. And it

1041
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 1: occurs to me the kind of inner strength or inner

1042
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 1: drive it would take to do that. Maybe it was

1043
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: just he grew up, you know, good family values in

1044
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: North Carolina. By all accounts, his parents were carrying his

1045
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 1: dad seemed a little harsh. That takes some kind of

1046
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: inner strength, right, Chris. Look, I'm telling you right now,

1047
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: and I'm not ragging about this. I'm not proud of

1048
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 1: it at all. The chances that I'm walking out of

1049
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: that room are real slim. I mean, now I would,

1050
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: But twenty one, twenty two year old Jesse walks into

1051
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: a room with that kind of trouble, I'm probably locking

1052
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: the door and saying, let's row boys, the party is here.

1053
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 1: And I guess I had a moment. It was a

1054
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 1: slightly serious moment for a basketball show. I had a

1055
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 1: moment where I thought to myself, Man, I would much

1056
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: rather my kids turn out like that than turn out

1057
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: like me. I want to raise sons. You don't agree. What, Okay,

1058
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 1: that's a fair point, Chris says, my life experience is

1059
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 1: more colored. That's a fair point. But there's colored and

1060
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: then there's stained bud. There's a huge difference. There's a

1061
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 1: huge dip. I want my sons to grow up to

1062
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: be the kind of men at twenty twenty one, twenty

1063
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: two that walk into a room full of cocaine, weed,

1064
01:19:56,160 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: alcohol and women and turn around and walk out because

1065
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: it's the right thing to do. And you don't seem

1066
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: to agree. And what's funny is I talked to a

1067
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,679
Speaker 1: buddy of mine last night and he said the exact

1068
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: same thing you said, I mean, almost verbatim, he said,

1069
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 1: But yeah, but where would you get all your stories?

1070
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: And stuff like that. People, you don't want these stories.

1071
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: You may you enjoy these stories because there's someone else's stories.

1072
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: That's not a story you want for your kids, for yourself. Right,

1073
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: you say it's not the stories, it's the experience. There

1074
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 1: are a lot of experiences out there you don't need, Chris,

1075
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 1: I never did Heroin. Like I said, I'm not a

1076
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,759
Speaker 1: big drug guy. And I promise you when I'm laying

1077
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 1: on my deathbed one day, I do the deathbed thing

1078
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: a lot, which sounds morbid, but it's just how I

1079
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,200
Speaker 1: try to live my life. I promise when I'm on

1080
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:50,480
Speaker 1: my deathbed one day, I will have a laundry list

1081
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 1: of things I wish I had done differently. I won't

1082
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 1: be laying there saying, gosh, if I could have just

1083
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 1: shot up, my life would have been complete. It's not

1084
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 1: gonna happen. It's absolutely not going to happen, all right.

1085
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how I got distracted with that. Probably

1086
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: because I'm trying, Chris, I'm trying trying to cover up

1087
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 1: the pain. Allow me to explain. I grew up with dogs,

1088
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: So don't scream at me. You're welcome to call in though,

1089
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 1: if you want eight seven seven three seven seven four

1090
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: three seven three. You're not going to call or email

1091
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: me Jesse at Jesse Kelly show dot com. I grew

1092
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: up with dogs. I cannot stress this point enough. I

1093
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 1: liked hass tense. I liked dogs. I still don't hate dogs.

1094
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm not a dog hater, because you really have to

1095
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 1: be kind of a soulless monster to be a dog hater.

1096
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm not a dog hater. I go over to my

1097
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 1: neighbor's house, a dog comes up to me. I'm not

1098
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 1: thrilled about it, but I'll give him a little pet,

1099
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 1: little scratch behind the ear. It's fine. But for whatever reason,

1100
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 1: I'm not a dog guy anymore. I don't enjoy your dog.

1101
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 1: I don't want his wet nose pressed up against me.

1102
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 1: More than anything else, I'm upset with you rather than

1103
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: your dog, because your dog runs up to me and

1104
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 1: jumps up on me and scratches my legs up when

1105
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 1: I walk in the door, which tells me you don't

1106
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,839
Speaker 1: discipline your dog, or your dog does something even worse.

1107
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,879
Speaker 1: And that's when I'm eating, And you know how seriously

1108
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 1: I take food. Remember half the time, I don't talk

1109
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 1: to my kids while I'm eating and your dog will

1110
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 1: come charging up to me and sit there staring at me,

1111
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: begging while I'm eating, because you spoil your dog and

1112
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: feed him food scraps all the time. Or even worse,

1113
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: you are an empty nester and you bring your dog

1114
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: into the various workplaces out there. I told you, I

1115
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: used to sell RVs and people, especially empty nesters, would

1116
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: show up with their dogs. They would show up with

1117
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: their dogs to walk in one hundred and fifty thousand

1118
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 1: dollars RVs. Oh this is my little billy. We love him.

1119
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 1: Oh look he's peeing in the corner. I better go

1120
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 1: clean that up. I can't allow me to explain this,

1121
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 1: very very frankly. I understand, for whatever reason, empty nester

1122
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: and every kids, whatever the reason, I'm not judging. I

1123
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: understand your dog is like your child. I get that

1124
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: totally fine. But it is critical, absolutely critical, for you

1125
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 1: to understand your dog is not a child to everybody else.

1126
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: Your dog is a dog. It's a pet. It's your

1127
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 1: pet unless you have been specifically invited to do so.

1128
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:08,560
Speaker 1: Your dog has no place in a restaurant, in somebody's

1129
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: office environment. It's your dog. It is an animal, A

1130
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 1: great animal. Dogs are great animals, loyal all I'm not

1131
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 1: saying it's not. However, I don't care how twisted up

1132
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: your mind has become. Your dog is a dog. I

1133
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 1: just feel like everybody needs to hear that right now.

1134
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 1: So over the years I've grown, is resentful a bad

1135
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: word to use? There? Not resentful? I'm turned off. I'm

1136
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 1: turned off, and I have to explain something else as

1137
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 1: I try to. You know what I'm doing right now, Chris,

1138
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make myself out to be a good person,

1139
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 1: and I don't know why, because I'm not. I talk

1140
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 1: to people all day long. I talk to you for

1141
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 1: three hours a day. That's what I enjoy doing. And

1142
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 1: then as soon as I'm done talking to you on

1143
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:04,160
Speaker 1: this radio show, I go and I do a TV

1144
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 1: show for an hour a day. It's the channel's called

1145
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: The First. It's on Pluto TV. So I talk four

1146
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 1: hours total all day long. I talk politics, I talk life,

1147
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: as you notice, I talk food. I talk about all

1148
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 1: the things I care about. It's not just a political show,

1149
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 1: and it never will be. Everything I have on my mind,

1150
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 1: and I mean everything, as you can probably tell, gets

1151
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: talked about on this show. We talked about doing cocaine. Today,

1152
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 1: I talk about all of it. So when I'm finally done,

1153
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 1: when I walk in the door at night, I have

1154
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 1: a wife, I have kids. I don't want another responsibility.

1155
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 1: I don't want another obligation when I sit down finally

1156
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I don't want to

1157
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:55,040
Speaker 1: sit down in dog hair. When I step out in

1158
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 1: my yard, I don't want to step in the dog

1159
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 1: crap my kids forgot to clean up. I just don't

1160
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 1: want to end all on top of this. If the

1161
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 1: day comes when I can just have an adventure, and

1162
01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 1: this has happened to me more than once, where a

1163
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: random adventure will fall into my lap, I don't want

1164
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: to ever be held back by the dog. That is

1165
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 1: honestly a huge part of it. Oh hey, Jesse, so

1166
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: and so called. They want you to come up and

1167
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 1: drive tanks in East Texas with them. There's that I'm

1168
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:29,600
Speaker 1: not making that up. There's a place where you can

1169
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: drive tanks in East Texas, real tanks. Okay, I'm going

1170
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't want that ever to turn into well, I

1171
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 1: mean I would, but I don't have somebody to watch

1172
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 1: the dog. That would be death for me. I'm all

1173
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 1: about life experiences. I'm all about the big adventure, as

1174
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: everybody can tell, and that extra obligation holding me back

1175
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,839
Speaker 1: is part of why I don't want the dog. However,

1176
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:05,799
Speaker 1: I have a wife who loves animals. I have two sons,

1177
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 1: which brings me to my current problem. They want a

1178
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: dog now my son's I need to explain something because

1179
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 1: I can already tell everybody's going to think I'm a monster.

1180
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 1: The reason we don't have a dog already. One of

1181
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 1: the main reasons, on top of my own desires, is

1182
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 1: my oldest son has a pet hair allergy. Now it's

1183
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,679
Speaker 1: it's bad but not dangerous. I guess I should say

1184
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: it can get really really he gets hives and his

1185
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 1: eyes get super itchy, and he gets miserable, I mean

1186
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 1: absolutely miserable. So he's not dying, but the kid is miserable,

1187
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 1: and he's a rambunctious kid. I mean, he never wants

1188
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: to stop moving, so I give him. We have to

1189
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 1: give him ben and drill, which I hate putting drugs

1190
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 1: into my kids at all. Anyway, just not big on that.

1191
01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: We'll do it. I mean whenever I need a good

1192
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: night's sleep or something, quit Chris, what we'll do it.

1193
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 1: But I just I don't love that. And especially for

1194
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: that kid. If I give him ben and drill or

1195
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 1: something that's gonna make him zonked out, that's miserable for him.

1196
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 1: He wants to run and jump and play in rough house.

1197
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 1: If he gets around horses, that's a little bit of

1198
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 1: in story, his throat can start to close up. But

1199
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 1: we took care of that. Big deal. However, there are

1200
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 1: these dogs which I didn't even know existed, called Golden Doodles.

1201
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: Clearly obviously a mixture between a golden retrieval retrieval, a

1202
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 1: golden retriever and a poodle. The good thing about these dogs, apparently,

1203
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 1: is they're hypoallergetic. My son has been around a Golden

1204
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 1: Doodle in the neighborhood several times, allergy free. This was

1205
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 1: a while ago. Since that moment, they have started working

1206
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 1: on me and they're chipping away and chipping away and

1207
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 1: chipping away. And normally, because I'm a huge jerk, would

1208
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 1: I would just say, look, we're not getting a dog.

1209
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 1: I don't want a dog. But here's the thing, Chris,

1210
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm being a bad dad not letting

1211
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: my sons have a dog. Isn't that part of every

1212
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 1: boy's upbringing? Or shouldn't it be? Is having a dog one?

1213
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 1: It's hell. They say dog owners have way better immune

1214
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,960
Speaker 1: systems because dogs bring so many germs home into the

1215
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 1: house that it strengthens your immune system. I don't know

1216
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 1: if you've all heard, but you're actually not supposed to

1217
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:16,960
Speaker 1: bathe and hand sanitizer ninety times a day. Germs actually

1218
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 1: help your immune system get stronger. Be that as it may.

1219
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:25,600
Speaker 1: Dogs aren't good for your immune system. Dogs are excellent,

1220
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:30,679
Speaker 1: excellent for home protection. It's one of the biggest deterrents

1221
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: out there is do they have a dog? Period? They're loud,

1222
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: they hear you, they smell. It goes way beyond even

1223
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 1: the biting. I mean, you could have one of those

1224
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 1: little annoying rat dogs. It's still good. But these things

1225
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:47,439
Speaker 1: get big. So it's good for protection. It's good protection

1226
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 1: for my boys out and about. Don't it take off

1227
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:57,799
Speaker 1: for a while. Bring the dog along now, my boys.

1228
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:01,160
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled, thrilled about this one. I'm thrilled I don't

1229
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 1: have girls because I see these girls these days and

1230
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 1: where they dressed in My girl, my daughter would never

1231
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,320
Speaker 1: leave houst They would, absolutely she would. She would never

1232
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 1: leave the house. I'd murder somebody. But part another reason

1233
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 1: I like having boys is this this. I'm big. Everyone

1234
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:18,080
Speaker 1: knows I'm six to eight. I'm huge. My boys are

1235
01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 1: already getting huge, and they're rapidly approaching that age where

1236
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about somebody throwing them in

1237
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 1: the back of a van and chopping them up into

1238
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:30,439
Speaker 1: little pieces anymore. That is a good feeling as a parent.

1239
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:35,639
Speaker 1: Only other parents will understand that feeling. But they're not

1240
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 1: quite at that age yet. And nobody's going to be

1241
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 1: stopping to have a long chat with my boys when

1242
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:43,679
Speaker 1: they have a large dog sitting there on a leash

1243
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,080
Speaker 1: that will rip your throat out. I like all of

1244
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 1: these things. I like the fact that it'll teach my

1245
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 1: boys responsibility. All right, you ready for this, Chris, This

1246
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: is this is the part. It's going to get us

1247
01:31:56,320 --> 01:32:03,600
Speaker 1: hate mail. Jesse at Jesse Kelly show dot com. I

1248
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 1: like that the dog's gonna die. What I mean by

1249
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 1: that is, remember I grew up with dogs. I have

1250
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:18,799
Speaker 1: sadly cried many a tear with a shovel in my hands,

1251
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 1: burying dogs. That's what we did. We didn't take them

1252
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 1: down somewhere. That's how I grew up. Dog finally dies, dog,

1253
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: Patt Even if you do have to take him and

1254
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 1: get put down, you bring that dog back home. You

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01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 1: go find a spot on your property, you dig the hole.

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01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,719
Speaker 1: It's your dog. You say goodbye, you bury your dog.

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01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 1: An awful experience, an awful experience that I want my

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01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 1: kids to have. Does that make sense? Is I'm not

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01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: trying to I don't want the dog to die, except

1260
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:54,719
Speaker 1: I do want the dog to die eventually. I want

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01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 1: them to have a long, happy time with the dog,

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01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 1: and I want them to experience loss. Is that sick?

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01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,519
Speaker 1: Does that make me a bad person? I want them

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01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 1: to experience loss being No, I'm not saying I want

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01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 1: them like me at thirty eight. You don't necessarily want

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01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 1: to go through all that. But it doesn't hurt to

1267
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 1: be a little tougher, a little more jaded even maybe

1268
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: a little more understanding of this world. I want it

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01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 1: to happen. So yesterday I come home, I get the

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01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: long face again about the dog. Can we have a dog?

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01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 1: We have a dog? And we have a dog? No? No, no, no, no,

1272
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 1: down the line and then Chris, just like Hannibal. Just

1273
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 1: like Hannibal when he sought out those cities and offered protection,

1274
01:33:55,840 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 1: I made the fatal mistake. I started looking up the dogs,

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01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 1: and I started looking up kennels here locally. Who has

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01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: one here? Who has one there? I've been texting with

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01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 1: two or three of them for the past day or so.

1278
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 1: Now there are a couple huge obstacles, though huge obstacles. Now, granted,

1279
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 1: we didn't have any money, so this wasn't an option,

1280
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: but we would go to you know, we'd go pick

1281
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 1: up a lab for if I remember right, it was

1282
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,840
Speaker 1: a couple hundred bucks, two or three hundred bucks, and

1283
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 1: that was a lot of money. Now maybe I'm wrong

1284
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 1: about that, but I'm almost positive. Click, Chris, look up

1285
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:40,080
Speaker 1: like a black lab or a yellow lab kennel and

1286
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 1: see if you can get rough prices. And maybe the

1287
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 1: prices have changed. Maybe I was young and dumb and

1288
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,920
Speaker 1: just wasn't paying enough attention. But that's what I took

1289
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:50,799
Speaker 1: to be, you know, that's what I took. Its prices

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01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:58,480
Speaker 1: to me. But these things are like two thousand dollars.

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01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 1: How much your labs, Chris, A thousand to two thousand? Okay,

1292
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 1: I know for a fact, we weren't paying that for

1293
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:09,800
Speaker 1: labs when I was, because there's no way we could

1294
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 1: have afforded that. Dude, I'm not spending two thousand dollars

1295
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 1: on a dog. No, that's the problem. To see, that's

1296
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: the issue. You say, go to the kennel my son,

1297
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:25,679
Speaker 1: my oldest if I want them to have a dog,

1298
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 1: I need him to have an hypo allergenic dog, or

1299
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to buy a dog and then give

1300
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 1: the freaking dog away right away because I can't have

1301
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 1: my oldest son torn up all the time. Dude, I can't.

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01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 1: I can't afford a two thousand dollar dog. I can't

1303
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 1: do that. You know what we need? We need a

1304
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 1: listener to donate one. Chris, I'm just kidding. Don't be

1305
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 1: donating your expensive dogs. So now I'm in a pickle.

1306
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 1: But long story short, we're gonna totally end up with

1307
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 1: one of these dogs. Maybe you can finance I hate

1308
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 1: to even say this, Can you finance a dog? Historic

1309
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 1: low interest rates right now? You know what I'll do.

1310
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 1: I'll go to the bank. Interest rates are like one

1311
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 1: percent right now. I'll go to the bank and get

1312
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: a two thousand dollars loon that can't take that long

1313
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 1: to pay off. I realized the dog costs more than

1314
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:19,600
Speaker 1: your first car, Chris. It costs more a lot. It

1315
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 1: costs more than double more than my first car. Don't

1316
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 1: tell me about first car's buddy. You remember my dad

1317
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:29,400
Speaker 1: made me sell mine that sucked. All right, we're gonna

1318
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 1: talk with b K. B K is an Air Force

1319
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 1: PJ former Air Force PJA, which are pretty much some

1320
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 1: of the baddest dudes on the planet. BK also has

1321
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 1: a podcast, World News with BK, And you're gonna learn

1322
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 1: to get real familiar with BK because he's a dag

1323
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:48,720
Speaker 1: on good on the radio. We're gonna have him on

1324
01:36:48,800 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 1: every week at this time, So hang on the Jesse

1325
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 1: Kelly Show now the host of World News with b K,

1326
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 1: which is the weekly podcast you need to start downloading. People.

1327
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:43,679
Speaker 1: You will enjoy it. B K former Air Force PJ.

1328
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 1: First of all, before we get into the nitty gritty here,

1329
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 1: I've got somebody telling me he thinks Stacy Abrams is

1330
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 1: kind of hot, b K, not my cup of tea.

1331
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 1: Where do you stand on all this on Stacy Abrams? Yeah,

1332
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 1: that's gonna that's gonna be a no go for me.

1333
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:05,640
Speaker 1: At this station, sir, absolutely not. I don't see. I

1334
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 1: don't know who what blind friend you have, but I'm

1335
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 1: sure she's a lovely woman on the inside, no doubt.

1336
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 1: But not my cup of seats, Jessie, Fine, look fine,

1337
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 1: whatever more for me, It's up to you. All right.

1338
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot today about mentality and how

1339
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 1: even these you know, slow reopens while I'm happy with them. Look,

1340
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna yell about progress while I'm happy with them.

1341
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 1: What I don't see is it concentrated effort by these

1342
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 1: politicians to change the mentality of the public, mentality they're

1343
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 1: partially responsible for telling them they're going to die if

1344
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 1: they go outside. And until we get that changed, man,

1345
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: what changes? Well, Jesse, you know, it's interesting the whole.

1346
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated with the whole sort of madness of crowds,

1347
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,479
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, because as you look

1348
01:38:57,479 --> 01:38:59,560
Speaker 1: at people out here, and you've seen it in California,

1349
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,960
Speaker 1: and you people get out and about, it's way more

1350
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 1: crowded outside now than it has been, and you see

1351
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:08,599
Speaker 1: people kind of adjusting, and what nobody wants to say

1352
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 1: out loud is is that the American people they heard

1353
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 1: all the dire predictions, right, They said millions of people

1354
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:17,560
Speaker 1: were going to die. That didn't happen. The social distancing,

1355
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 1: of course, social distancing was effective. And as they look

1356
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:24,680
Speaker 1: around and realize that people are not dropping dead by

1357
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,400
Speaker 1: the thousands, they're kind of shrugging their shoulders a little

1358
01:39:27,400 --> 01:39:29,760
Speaker 1: bit and saying, Okay, well, you know what, people are

1359
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 1: going to die, and I'm still going to live my

1360
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 1: life and I've still got to put food on a

1361
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,720
Speaker 1: table and feed my family. And it's sort of a

1362
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:39,160
Speaker 1: new normal if you will, you know, and people are

1363
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 1: just gonna people adapt. The human species is probably the

1364
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 1: most adaptable creature on the planet, Jesse. And if you

1365
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 1: tell them, hey, you know what, from now on, every

1366
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 1: year tens of thousands of people are going to die

1367
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 1: from these viruses, they're gonna shrug their shoulders and they're

1368
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:55,320
Speaker 1: gonna go, okay, well that's the way it's going to

1369
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 1: be then, and they're gonna move on and regardless of

1370
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 1: what politicians say. In my opinion, and I see that

1371
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 1: happening now. I mean, the beaches open here in San Diego.

1372
01:40:03,680 --> 01:40:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm out there with the glorious hand the apps, the

1373
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:10,600
Speaker 1: app zanes are popping out as usual, and you know,

1374
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 1: the beaches are open and people are people are not

1375
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 1: social distancing on the beach at all. You know, I

1376
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 1: was on there yesterday. It's back so well. Look, I

1377
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 1: don't know where those people get off getting sunshine and exercise.

1378
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 1: I've been told by the experts of this country that's

1379
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 1: bad for you. But you know what, actually, I want

1380
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 1: to go to the Air Force PJA thing. Obviously, this

1381
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 1: is a rigorous school, way rigorous that anything I've ever

1382
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 1: gone through, and then most people will ever go through.

1383
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 1: What do they teach you? How do they teach you

1384
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 1: about mentality, about toughness? I mean, everybody who walks in

1385
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 1: the Air Force PJA school is not terminator, I'm assuming.

1386
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 1: How do they drive that home? Well, you know, it's

1387
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 1: it's weird and it's changed a lot, Jesse any old days,

1388
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 1: you know, it was really like sink or swim. I

1389
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:56,919
Speaker 1: mean that's why in the old days you had classes

1390
01:40:56,920 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 1: and you can see some of these plaques on the

1391
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 1: wall of the classes selection. They would just get like

1392
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty two hundred kids and just thrown

1393
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: to the wolves, and they didn't care. There was no preparation,

1394
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 1: there was no like you know, mental training. There was

1395
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:12,439
Speaker 1: nothing like that, and at the end, you know, you'd

1396
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:14,360
Speaker 1: have the class of one hundred and fifty and like

1397
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 1: two guys would graduate. And so then somebody was like,

1398
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 1: you know what, this is stupid and counterproductive. And now

1399
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 1: it's a lot different. And this goes for like most

1400
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 1: special operations schools from what I've heard, like Navy seal Buds,

1401
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 1: Green Berets, and what they're doing now is a lot

1402
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 1: more preparation. I mean, these guys have like, you know, nutritionists,

1403
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 1: they have swim coaching, they have physiologists, they have like

1404
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:41,320
Speaker 1: massage therapists, they have all kinds of stuff. And now

1405
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 1: guys are much better prepared going in as far as mentally,

1406
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's still sort of an individual effort. At

1407
01:41:48,920 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 1: the end of the day. It's you in your head

1408
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 1: and it's a gut check and you just got to

1409
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,600
Speaker 1: decide how bad you want it, and that's it. You

1410
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:57,680
Speaker 1: can't really teach that. How do we get some of

1411
01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:01,840
Speaker 1: that nationwide? I'm I mean that we live I've been

1412
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:04,080
Speaker 1: talking about it all day. We live in the scared

1413
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 1: suburban mom society. Now we just do where people were

1414
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:09,600
Speaker 1: obsessed with protection and everything has to be safe, and

1415
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 1: little Billy has to be safe and safe and safe

1416
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 1: and safe. And it drives me crazy, man, because life

1417
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:19,719
Speaker 1: isn't safe. You gotta go live. And we have lost

1418
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:23,800
Speaker 1: that whatever that is or however that happened, we've lost it. Yeah,

1419
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 1: there's there seems to be like a lack of that

1420
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:29,720
Speaker 1: warrior mentality and it's unfortunate. But like you know, in

1421
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:32,759
Speaker 1: some ways, maybe we go back to the Spartan model,

1422
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, or who we see these children at the

1423
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 1: age of six months and then start starting rigorous calisthenic

1424
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,360
Speaker 1: straining at like one year old. I don't I don't know,

1425
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 1: but um, you know. But you know what you never know, Jesse,

1426
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:47,680
Speaker 1: And I tell you I have a lot on my podcast.

1427
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 1: My audience skews very young and male, and most of

1428
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 1: them are like, want to be in the military. And

1429
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:57,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's easy for us to look around and

1430
01:42:57,320 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 1: make these broad, sweeping generalizations of the America can use

1431
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 1: because we read what the media puts out. But I

1432
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 1: can tell you just from my correspondence with a lot

1433
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 1: of young men and women to want to be in

1434
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 1: the military, that there, you believe me, America still has that,

1435
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 1: you know, warrior, young man and young woman, And there's

1436
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:18,920
Speaker 1: plenty of mout there. I talk to them all the time,

1437
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 1: and so I think we're still in good hands. And

1438
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 1: it's up to guys like us, Jesse, to cultivate that

1439
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 1: to say, like, you know, you can do it, and

1440
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 1: and have that influence on younger generations and show mental

1441
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 1: toughness and be physically fit and be proud of your country, patriotic,

1442
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 1: all that cheesy stuff that you don't get in the

1443
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 1: mainstream media marketplace. Yeah, that's true. It's it's it's called

1444
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 1: cheesy stuff until somebody has to shove a bayonet into

1445
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 1: a communist Chinese he's invading the country, and then it's

1446
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:52,640
Speaker 1: called you know, saving your bacon. Absolutely right, Jesse. I mean,

1447
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 1: as we speak right now, I'm doing this interview with

1448
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:58,559
Speaker 1: you in the tiniest shorts you've ever seen. My thigh,

1449
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:03,440
Speaker 1: My thigh muffle fling. How does my pants It's unbelievable.

1450
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 1: Just please stop sharing that with us, please, all right.

1451
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 1: I will only come on your show, Justine dressed in

1452
01:44:12,240 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 1: very skimpy clothing of new rule of Thumb. I know

1453
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:18,160
Speaker 1: you love it. That's why this is radio and not TV,

1454
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 1: all right, b K. We have a communist Chinese linked

1455
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:27,680
Speaker 1: firm that's already targeting school kids with Chinese morality and values.

1456
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 1: This is according to the National Pulse. We have Chinese

1457
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:33,880
Speaker 1: spies who've been busted at Harvard. We have Chinese spies

1458
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 1: who've been busted driving around United States Senators, one of

1459
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 1: your very own Feinstein from California, China very much seems

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Speaker 1: to be taking this stealth war seriously. Are we taking

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Speaker 1: it seriously? I don't expect Cia and everyone else to

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01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:51,599
Speaker 1: stand up and put up a billboard every time they're

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Speaker 1: doing something. I'm not one of those idiots, but are

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Speaker 1: we taking it seriously? As someone who's been in that world,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is actually the most serious I've seen

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Speaker 1: any of our elected representatives take it. But it's sad

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Speaker 1: because they get crapped all over even for bringing it up.

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Speaker 1: I saw you saw sendor Tom Cotton the other day

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Speaker 1: saying like, hey, maybe we need to take a hard

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Speaker 1: look at how many Chinese students are coming to our universities.

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Speaker 1: And that was you know, that was very everybody who

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Speaker 1: was shouting racism at them. But it's the truth, Jesse.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how many tens of thousands of Chinese students

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Speaker 1: come to our universities and then go back home. Whereas

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Speaker 1: compare that to how many Americans are we sending the

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Speaker 1: Chinese universities. I mean, I don't have the figures right

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Speaker 1: in front of me, Jesse, but I'm just speculating that

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Speaker 1: it's way, way, way less than what China is sending

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Speaker 1: over here. And there have been massive issues of I saft,

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Speaker 1: espionage and even our own homegrown Americans colluding with the Chinese.

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Speaker 1: We had was that a Harvard professor a few weeks

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Speaker 1: back I covered on the podcast It was wrapped up

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Speaker 1: in the espionage. So I don't know. And when you

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Speaker 1: have tens of thousands, it's really hard to keep track

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Speaker 1: of every single one of them. So I don't know

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01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:06,760
Speaker 1: how they're going to dress that movie for it. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad they're at least talking about it, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: B K, host of World News With b K. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna let you go. Now, do me a favorite. Give

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01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 1: Stacy Abrams another look, man, I will. I'll be thinking

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Speaker 1: out her as I crawl back into bed with my

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01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 1: very tiny short song Jesse, please go away, thank you, sir.

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01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,800
Speaker 1: Check out that guy's podcast, man, I'm telling you it

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01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 1: is legit. You don't hear me pumping people's podcasts all

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01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:34,600
Speaker 1: the time. You've never heard me pump one like this.

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01:46:34,880 --> 01:46:38,400
Speaker 1: It's good Man again. I cannot stress this enough. You

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01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:40,719
Speaker 1: know how my show you can listen to with the kids.

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01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:44,719
Speaker 1: You cannot listen to b K show with the kids.

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01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:48,960
Speaker 1: You cannot. However, it is very good. He is a patriot.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be on every single Tuesday at this time.

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Speaker 1: I love that guy, all right, Chris one more hangu

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01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 1: Oh God, an him only side of me. Jesse Kelly,

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01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 1: don't listening to the Jesse Kelly Show. We are after

1504
01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 1: having a lovely day to day talking about dogs and

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01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 1: Hannibal in cocaine. We're gonna have the president's daughter on

1506
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 1: tomorrow or the vice president's daughter on Sorry, Charlotte Pants

1507
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 1: is going to be joining us. So don't ask me

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01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 1: how we pull these things off, because I don't know.

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01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:01,720
Speaker 1: I really feel like most of my life has been

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01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:05,520
Speaker 1: falling backwards into these rare opportunities, and I don't understand

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01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 1: necessarily how that happens, but appreciate it. Speaking of not understanding,

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Speaker 1: here's Joe Biden with a little audio cut and This

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Speaker 1: is Joe Biden reading very clearly, reading from a teleprompter,

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01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:25,280
Speaker 1: and if you listen closely, I'm pretty sure he reads

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01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:27,920
Speaker 1: the part that he wasn't supposed to read out loud.

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Speaker 1: So thank you all for taking your part, fulfilling a part,

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01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 1: being part of soul the Nation's Saturday. Thank you for

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01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 1: tuning in a night. And thank all the folks you

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01:48:43,000 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 1: heard from earlier in the beginning of this event. I

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01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 1: love that. Thank all the folks you heard from earlier

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01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:55,160
Speaker 1: in the And that was a note to Joe of

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01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 1: the like make sure you list this person or that person.

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01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:07,479
Speaker 1: But look, Joe, this next audio cut, you'll see Joe

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01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 1: understands that we've got a problem right now. All right,

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01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 1: we've got a problem. And I'll tell you what we

1526
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 1: need to do with this problem. Chris, we just need

1527
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 1: to bang away at it. I would I would get

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01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:23,519
Speaker 1: much more engaged in the world. We can't step back if,

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01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 1: in fact, for example, we solve the problem in the

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01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 1: United States America and you don't solve other parts of

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01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: the world. You know what's gonna happen. We're gonna have

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01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 1: You're gonna have travel bands. You're gonna not be able

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01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:41,600
Speaker 1: to do have have economic intercourse. We're not gonna be

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01:49:41,680 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 1: able to have economic intercourse. Man, Allee. Let's get married

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01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 1: so we can get this done. You gotta wetta. We

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01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:53,599
Speaker 1: gotta get married so we can knock out the all right,

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01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 1: you know what, stop Chris, We're done with that for now.

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Speaker 1: Pentagon reveal the US Navy footage of UFOs confirms the

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Speaker 1: videos are real. This is from Sarah Carter dot com.

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Speaker 1: Department of Defense released Monday three unclassified videos showing the

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Speaker 1: US Navy's encounters with unidentified aerial phenomena. First video was

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01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:18,559
Speaker 1: taken in November of two thousand and four. Oh thanks

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01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 1: for just doubt getting them to US Fellas and the

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Speaker 1: two others in January of twenty fifteen. Quote. The US

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Speaker 1: Navy previously acknowledged that these videos circulating in the public

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Speaker 1: domain were indeed Navy videos. After a thorough review, the

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Speaker 1: Department is determined that the authorized release of these unclassified

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Speaker 1: videos does not reveal any sensitive capabilities or systems and

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Speaker 1: does not impinge on any subsequent investigations of military airspace

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01:50:44,360 --> 01:50:48,719
Speaker 1: incursions by unidentified aerial phenomena. DoD said in a statement

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01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 1: they confirmed their validity and said they're releasing them quote

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01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 1: in order to clear up any misconceptions by the public

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01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 1: on whether or not the footage that has been circulating

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01:50:58,960 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 1: was real or not, or whether or not there are more.

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01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 1: There is more to the videos. Okay, so they're confirming

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01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 1: there were unidentified flying opects. Chris, be straight with me.

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01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 1: Do you believe in aliens? Do you believe there is

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01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:23,840
Speaker 1: life on other planets? You do? SEATI two and I

1559
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:29,559
Speaker 1: don't think we'll hold on what see Chris says, maybe

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Speaker 1: not hyper intelligent. I believe a hundred percent in it.

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Speaker 1: And it's not that I believe they've come to Earth.

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe they have, maybe they haven't. No hold on, Chris,

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01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:45,080
Speaker 1: don't be dismissive that fast. Remember that one sweet caller

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Speaker 1: we had. We gotta get that lady to call again. Lady,

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Speaker 1: if you're out there, call again eight seven seven three

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Speaker 1: seven seven four three seven three or email me. We

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01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 1: had this caller. She was the best, dead serious and

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Speaker 1: I mean dead pan. She talked about her alien abduction

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01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 1: and what they look like and everything else. So I'm

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01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:06,480
Speaker 1: not saying, Look, I'm not saying they're down here abducting

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01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 1: people and doing weird medical experiments and then sending them

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Speaker 1: back down to Earth with rare alien martian diseases. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying that, but given how huge space is, doesn't

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01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 1: it make the most sense. Isn't the probability that there

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01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:32,080
Speaker 1: is life elsewhere? Well you can say that's why you

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01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 1: believe it, and that's why you don't think they're here.

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01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 1: But isn't that a little arrogant too, Chris? Where's our

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01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 1: twilight zone music? As I talk about this, isn't that

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01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 1: a little arrogant? And what I mean by that is

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01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:47,559
Speaker 1: so you're telling me that's very similar to the people

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01:52:47,600 --> 01:52:51,680
Speaker 1: today saying, Wow, doctors back in the day didn't know

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01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:57,679
Speaker 1: what they were doing. Do you really think you live

1583
01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 1: in that one time the history of the world where

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01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:06,600
Speaker 1: doctors have figured everything out. Do you think everything they're prescribing,

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01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 1: everything they're telling you to do today is the right thing?

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01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 1: Or do you think a hundred years from now they're

1587
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:15,200
Speaker 1: going to look at some of these things and be, oh,

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01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 1: my gosh, nice Chris. They used to give mercury to

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Speaker 1: constipated children during the plague breakout of London. They forced

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Speaker 1: young people to smoke cigarettes. All right, it's all a

1591
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 1: learning curve. For everybody. How are we out of time?

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01:53:35,560 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm just getting going on this. Hang it what I'm saying?

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01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:42,240
Speaker 1: All right, hang on, I'll explain in just a second.

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01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:27,720
Speaker 1: Chris is an idiot my way of thicket. By the way,

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01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:30,880
Speaker 1: before I forget if you missed any part of the show.

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Speaker 1: The whole show is available on iHeart, Google, Spotify, It's

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01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:38,800
Speaker 1: on Apple. You can go ahead and subscribe on Apple

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01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 1: and automatically download it. And they tell me apparently you

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01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 1: can leave five star reviews there, so leave five star

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01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 1: reviews or not. I don't care what it but anyway,

1601
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:54,920
Speaker 1: Oh and you can email me Jesse at Jesse Kelly

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01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 1: show dot com. Anyway, christ by saying that all the

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01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:04,360
Speaker 1: other life in the universe is not intelligent, that's saying

1604
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 1: that we are the first. Is that what you believe?

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01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 1: That's stupid. You're stupid. They're got hyper intelligent. What does

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01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:17,560
Speaker 1: that even mean, you idiot? Intelligent? For all you know,

1607
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 1: they've been around for thousands of years before we even

1608
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 1: got here, Chris. They might have lightsabers and stuff. I've

1609
01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 1: seen this movie about it. All right, that's all the

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Speaker 1: Chess Kelly Show. On The Jordan Harbinger Show, you'll hear

1611
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 1: amazing stories from people that have lived them, from spies

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01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 1: to CEOs, even an undercover agent who infiltrated the Gambino

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Speaker 1: crime family. You're about to hear a preview of The

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Speaker 1: Jordan Harbinger Show with Jack Garcia, who did just that.

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Speaker 1: My career was twenty four out of twenty six years

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01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:23,880
Speaker 1: was solely dedicated working on the cover. I walk in,

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Speaker 1: I'm in the bar. How there's a bar made? Dare

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01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:29,200
Speaker 1: good looking? Young lady? See serving me? Joey, Hey, what

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Speaker 1: would you like? I usually my frank was give me

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01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 1: a kettle, one martini, three olives, class of water on

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Speaker 1: the side. I finished the drink. The guys come in.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go go in my pocket, take out the

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Speaker 1: big wad of money. Hey, am, I give her one

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars. If you're with the mob, I say, hey, Jordan,

1625
01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:48,960
Speaker 1: you're on record with us. That means we protect you.

1626
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 1: Nobody could shake you down. We could shake you down. Oh,

1627
01:56:52,280 --> 01:56:54,760
Speaker 1: you're on record with us. For more on how Jack

1628
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:58,320
Speaker 1: became so trusted in the highest levels of the Gambino organization,

1629
01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 1: check out episode three ninety two of The Jordan Harbinger Show.