WEBVTT - Podcast Reaction: Jason Witten Unretires

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<v Speaker 1>This. He's hanging with the talking Cowboys brains. They block

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<v Speaker 1>it up beautifully, fade right side of the end. Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Witten over the shoulder. That's a goat catch. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that was a one hander, Brad touchdown. Jason Witton the goat.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa yo yo. That is not just a memory lane anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not a thing of the past, guys, It's a

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<v Speaker 1>thing of the future and of now. Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Emergency Podcast. Lindsay Draper and Nick Eatman Derek Eagleton reacting

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<v Speaker 1>to Jason Witton coming out of retirement. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>admit my first question was as a coach or as

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<v Speaker 1>a player. Guys. You guys were upstairs, I was downstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your reaction? April fools? First thought was what

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<v Speaker 1>month is this? Wait a second, and were getting punked here?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what? And then I really, you know, I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. I like the movie. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>like it. I mean because and this is a good

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<v Speaker 1>young football team that made the playoffs and is going

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<v Speaker 1>to enter the season with some issues at tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, and he and I think that,

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<v Speaker 1>like he said in his statement, you know, he's still

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<v Speaker 1>the fire, still burning there, and you know, he's got

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<v Speaker 1>to get those secrets. They're still in the dirt. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go get them. So, you know, I didn't think it

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<v Speaker 1>was completely shocking. I mean, I was obviously as everybody

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<v Speaker 1>as you're shocked at the initial news of it. But

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<v Speaker 1>then when I thought about it, I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll take you back to the playoffs in January.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking to Taylor one day and we were

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of talking about the team, and one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned to her was, I wonder right now, And

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<v Speaker 1>this was in January, like first round of playoffs. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder right now if Jason Witten is having any

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<v Speaker 1>second thoughts is he looking at this team? Because it's

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<v Speaker 1>my personal opinion. I don't know, He's never said this

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<v Speaker 1>to me or anybody I've heard of. My belief is

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<v Speaker 1>that part of the reason that he walked away is

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<v Speaker 1>because he didn't necessarily see that this was a team

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<v Speaker 1>that was right there on the custom of a championship.

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<v Speaker 1>And it made me think, is he rethinking that? Thinking? Man,

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<v Speaker 1>what I've seen from this team over the last eight

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<v Speaker 1>weeks of the season, when they went from three and

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<v Speaker 1>five to where they are now, what I'm seeing is

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<v Speaker 1>that this team is really good. This team has some

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<v Speaker 1>great potential, and I could actually feel a void for them,

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe the void that could push him over the top.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if he was having that kind of conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with himself back in January, and so it made me

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<v Speaker 1>when I heard this news. It made me think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he was having that conversation with himself, and maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>looked at it now like I see this team as

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<v Speaker 1>a rising team. If I jump back in, I can

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<v Speaker 1>feel a void. And by the way, maybe that's enough

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<v Speaker 1>for me to be able to get that at ever

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<v Speaker 1>elusive ring or get get deep in the playoffs. He

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<v Speaker 1>has not been able to do that ironing with that

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<v Speaker 1>if that is true, and I don't know why it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be. Of all that stuff that you just said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much ironing because I have sat there with

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<v Speaker 1>Witton on two occasions where he has been really visibly

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<v Speaker 1>upset about situations sort of like that. One of them

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<v Speaker 1>was Cole Beasley who decided to quit raining camp and

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<v Speaker 1>go back home because this wasn't for him. But then

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<v Speaker 1>he came back and after a weekend and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I changed in my mind. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a little relapse there, and Jason Witten wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>about it. He was like, no, I'm not No, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't just quit on us and come back. And so

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<v Speaker 1>he had to apologize to Witten. And there was a

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<v Speaker 1>tight end way back in the day, Scott sicko same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't think he wanted to play, then he kind of did,

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<v Speaker 1>and Witten play. If you don't think you want to play,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're out. And so it's kind of weird that

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<v Speaker 1>it comes back around like that. If that's what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>there's more to it. I mean, there's obviously more to

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<v Speaker 1>it there. I mean a lot of people have already

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<v Speaker 1>asked me and he hasn't gone around too too quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, was he gonna get fired by the ESPN?

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<v Speaker 1>Was did he get And I don't think that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't think you decided to go play football

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<v Speaker 1>if your sixteenth year, if you needed a job. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't need. You know, he still had a job. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like he took that, you know. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>that he still wanted to play. I think you're it's

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<v Speaker 1>more what you were saying about still wanting to play football.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully we are going to hear from our friends up

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<v Speaker 1>at the combine. Ran brought us Rob Phillips, David Hellman.

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<v Speaker 1>They are scrambling now like that. Yeah, they're like they

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<v Speaker 1>are on the hunt right now, looking to see if

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<v Speaker 1>there is a Jones or a Garrett there. But we

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<v Speaker 1>went here from you, guys. Garrett eighty eight eight by

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<v Speaker 1>by two two ninety seven is the number. But the

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<v Speaker 1>phone lines will always be freed up for our pals

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<v Speaker 1>on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Uh, realistic expectations, guys. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to just get right into it and not even

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<v Speaker 1>beat around the bush because I've I've seen a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of tweets come out and say, well, you know, tight

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<v Speaker 1>ends no longer a priority in the draft, and I personally,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, disagree with that because I think sitting a

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<v Speaker 1>year off thirty seven years old, Um, you gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>realistic with yourself about his contributions. He is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest Cowboys of all time. But we got to

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<v Speaker 1>be real here. I agree with you. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you have to go get a tight end if

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<v Speaker 1>he happens and you're in the third, fourth round and

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<v Speaker 1>you know this guy's rated high. Then, yeah, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at you look at Witten in his age and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but you do think that you know, Schultz and jar

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<v Speaker 1>two young players that you know their time is coming

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Now we've seen in the past what young

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends behind Whitten don't always work. I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>things are going to change some there. And another thing

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<v Speaker 1>at his press at his press conference for the Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Witten College Player of the Year, he was long ago,

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<v Speaker 1>eight weeks ago up here asked about he was asked

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<v Speaker 1>about Kellen Moore and he kind of, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>talked a little bit about how he thinks Kellen's going

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<v Speaker 1>to really help Dak and do things now that Dak

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<v Speaker 1>is really able to do. Kind of made it sound

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<v Speaker 1>like Lenahan wasn't doing that. It just hasn't really high

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<v Speaker 1>praise for Kellen Moore. And maybe that's part of it too.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe this offense is actually something he thinks is a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more suited for him. Yeah. I know someone

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<v Speaker 1>that talked him off the record, and he was very

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<v Speaker 1>very he had a lot of praise for Kellen Moore

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<v Speaker 1>and what he thought Kellen Moore could do with this offense. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that has something to do with this decision that

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not a knock necessarily on Lenahan as much.

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<v Speaker 1>It is just I think he as a belief that

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<v Speaker 1>Kellen Moore has the ability to really take this offense

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<v Speaker 1>to another level and he can see himself maybe in

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<v Speaker 1>that role and that that may be something that excites

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<v Speaker 1>him a little bit. And that coupled with Nick, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to rewind to something you said earlier to pull

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<v Speaker 1>him back. I mean, we could talk a full podcast

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<v Speaker 1>alone on what it's going to take to be in shape,

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<v Speaker 1>to get ready, to get your body right. But what

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<v Speaker 1>you said that this team actually could be a contender

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<v Speaker 1>that could lure him back, coupled with I mean, Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Witton's been around Kellen Moore. This is a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>things we don't know, you know that that he might

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<v Speaker 1>bring to the table. So that kind of makes this

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<v Speaker 1>Kitten don't forget Kitt Kitna have been teammates, like he

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<v Speaker 1>knows these guys. Well, I'm just going to read the

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<v Speaker 1>quote if we didn't already have seen it already, But

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<v Speaker 1>the quote says exactly that, and I'm I'm actually surprised

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about it that he that he says

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<v Speaker 1>the fire and side of me to compete and play

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<v Speaker 1>this game is just burning too strong. This team has

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<v Speaker 1>a great group of rising young stars, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to help them make a run at a championship. This

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<v Speaker 1>was completely my decision. I'm very comfortable with it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to getting back in the dirt, but just

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<v Speaker 1>but just admitting that, Yeah, this team has a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to win and I want to be a part of it. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad. I'm glad. You know he went out and

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<v Speaker 1>said that, because that's kind of what you were alluding

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<v Speaker 1>to as well. I don't think it had anything really

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<v Speaker 1>to do with what was going on in Monday night football.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's hard to jump into the booth for

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<v Speaker 1>your first broadcasting gig and be the He had some moments.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't polished. He's not Romo. They did him no

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<v Speaker 1>favorite He's not Romo. They did him no favors. I

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<v Speaker 1>think and all of us can probably recognize this because

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<v Speaker 1>we work in media. But it is a difficult thing.

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<v Speaker 1>As we're about to do this in just a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is a difficult thing to do a broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>with someone that you cannot see. Yeah, and for his

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<v Speaker 1>first time in the booth, first time doing media. Really

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<v Speaker 1>they asked him to do a game where one of

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<v Speaker 1>the people that was a part of their threesome was

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<v Speaker 1>actually on the field and they could not see him

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to take nonverbal cues of when you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk, when you want to talk, when you want

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<v Speaker 1>to stop, how you want to enhance something that they're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>or they want to enhance something that you're saying. Like

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<v Speaker 1>they did him no favors trying these things with a

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<v Speaker 1>relatively freshman group of guys working together in that capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think ESPN did him any favors. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that is a poor to me, that is a

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<v Speaker 1>poor reflection of what you could expect from when if

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<v Speaker 1>he decides to do that in the future. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that was a learning year, and they put him on

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<v Speaker 1>the big stage and gave him a lot of unexpected things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very experimental group right in that kind of environment.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think ultimately, I think if he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>go back into that, I think another network or ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>will do it in a much more control type of

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<v Speaker 1>environment to let him kind of get more used to it,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than just storing him out there. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they did. The next headset or earpiece he will put

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<v Speaker 1>in will be as a coach. Anyways, I hear we

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<v Speaker 1>have Brian broad Us on the line from ins BB.

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<v Speaker 1>Just talk to us, man. What do you got, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of located were the head coaches. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>we actually got to visit Dave and I real quickly

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<v Speaker 1>grabbed Kellen Moore and we're over here at the Marriott

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<v Speaker 1>across the street from the Jaw Marriott, So wherever h

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<v Speaker 1>at the Marriott and we're staking out trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>to Jason Garrett to give us a little idea. This

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<v Speaker 1>was something that obviously just didn't happen today, I don't think, so,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we had opportunities with kind of visit with people.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, we're over here kind of hanging out, waiting

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully we'll get something from a coach Garrett about about

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<v Speaker 1>the situation. But kind of one of those traditional things

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<v Speaker 1>that happens to us at Dallas Cowboys dot Com. We

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<v Speaker 1>were all having lunch when this all went down, So

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<v Speaker 1>how it goes the street continues for us, Brian. The

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<v Speaker 1>other than that, other than maybe you know the salad

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<v Speaker 1>that you were eating got cut into that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But you love this, don't you. You love going to

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<v Speaker 1>steak out and try to find them. Yeah, no, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot of fun actually, because you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>I've got all these connections with the teams, as we

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<v Speaker 1>all do. So I was kind of kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>it was like playing the game of Clue. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was, I was in the laboratory and I was looking,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I had to go to the ballroom and

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<v Speaker 1>then I had to go you know, I guess I'm

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<v Speaker 1>too old for the game of Clue. But yeah, yeah, yeah, candlestick. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this is plumb all that stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Professor Plumb. There are you gonna hit Dave with the candlestick?

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<v Speaker 1>I should, but but no, we're you know, it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we eliminated the stadium, We eliminated the team hotel, we

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<v Speaker 1>eliminated you know, we and finally, like I say, running

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<v Speaker 1>into Kellen Moore, Kellen said, hey, I've got to I've

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<v Speaker 1>got to go meet with coach. So we've we've got

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<v Speaker 1>him cornered up here. But yeah, this is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that you know, we uh, we're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of all here and you know, we were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>grab Steven Jones. When we've learned Stephen Jones is not here,

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<v Speaker 1>he's back in Dallas, will be back here tonight with

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<v Speaker 1>with Jerry, So again, hopefully we can have the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, this was one of those things that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that was not being talked about here. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, even the people that I know at ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, I think that they were a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit surprised about this all went down. And so, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll see, uh, you know, we'll see if

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<v Speaker 1>we can kind of get to get to the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of some of these things. But you know, for the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>they like to talk about how now the youngest team,

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<v Speaker 1>the youngest team, the youngest team. Well, you know, they've

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<v Speaker 1>added some age to this team now. And to be

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<v Speaker 1>quite honest with you, I'm really am surprised that they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make this move. Really, uh what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>it does for the chemistry? And it really and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of expand on that, why why are you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>surprised by that? I'm surprised because you know, it's to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, well, let's be honest, though, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've kind of during the season that was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>him coming back, and Oben Rodgers from one U five

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<v Speaker 1>three was you know, went out on that limb and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and took a lot of criticism for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know everybody we've had contacts with Witten and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, but you know, we kind of heard

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<v Speaker 1>the whispers that maybe things weren't going as well as

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<v Speaker 1>they need to be. And I heard you guys before

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<v Speaker 1>I came on talking about, you know, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>difficult situation, and you know, I totally agree on that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you know, Witten is, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>of these guys. I felt like though when he hung

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<v Speaker 1>it up, you know, he was going to hang it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel like that there was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>any you know going back. You know, and usually players

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<v Speaker 1>know when they need to move on. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very surprising that, you know that he took the

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<v Speaker 1>year off and then now is coming back. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think when you look at this draft, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like that. You know, we pack

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<v Speaker 1>on the Draft show last night, we were talking about, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you find a way to trade back into

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<v Speaker 1>the first round and grab one of these first round

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends? Would you would you consider trading for one

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<v Speaker 1>of these first round tight ends. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think this team was making plans to to go that direction.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, it's a little surprising to me that they would,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, they would entertain this. Uh you know, now,

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<v Speaker 1>well they entertained it, I guess earlier or later in

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<v Speaker 1>the year. But now we've full blown got it, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>full circle here, so that you know, that's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a team that you know, it felt like I's always

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<v Speaker 1>tried to get you know, get younger and and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, add talent that way. Just a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>surprising to me they went this route. Well, Brian, knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a it's a guy that's an aging player.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure do you think that in your opinion, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it's still the wise and prudent thing for the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys to do to still consider tight end as a

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<v Speaker 1>priority during this draft? Well, yeah, I think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to look at it, especially if it's a

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<v Speaker 1>one year deal. But you know, maybe this is the

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<v Speaker 1>bridge that they needed to get, you know, another year

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<v Speaker 1>with Schultz and another year with Jarwin. You know, usually

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<v Speaker 1>you could take veteran players. I mean, we were thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, Sean Lee. With Sean Lee the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the bridge to get the other guys ready, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and these young kids just came in and played from

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<v Speaker 1>the word go, and you know, really, Sean Lee is

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<v Speaker 1>there was kind of an afterthought there for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I just feel like though it's I think,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's any other player than Jason Witten, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this doesn't work this way, but you know again, I

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<v Speaker 1>I just I thought that they were going to say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just go with the young tight ends. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's draft a young tight end and then you know

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<v Speaker 1>that way you have you know, Jarwin young tight end, Shultz,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and then kind of go that round because

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<v Speaker 1>this again, this this this draft one of the really

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we could have two three tight ends taken

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round, you know, with the with depending

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<v Speaker 1>on how this thing falls. So uh and then the

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<v Speaker 1>depth of the position is actually pretty good. Now does

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<v Speaker 1>that preclude them from taking Derek the question you ask?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I would hope not considering this is just

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<v Speaker 1>a one year deal. Okay, you when you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the tight ends, and Brian knows this better than anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about tight ends three projected guys in the

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<v Speaker 1>first round. You know that that's a position that I

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<v Speaker 1>could that sometimes those guys could slide, you know. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>and and you know they're maybe sitting there at maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not fifty nine, but sitting there in the fifties or

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<v Speaker 1>with a chance to trade up and go man, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where you know, you got the extra compensatory four

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<v Speaker 1>and so okay, how do you take you know, fifty

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<v Speaker 1>eight at four and moved, you know, get up. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about can you get into the forties

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<v Speaker 1>to get one of these guys? And you know that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably what you're gonna have to do now. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I would guys, I would hope that this wouldn't take

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<v Speaker 1>them out of the tight end market. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about you know it's hard to say, not hard

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<v Speaker 1>to say, but it's difficult to say. You know, would

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Witten be a progress stopper? You know, would he

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, would he prevent you from getting a

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<v Speaker 1>tight end? And you would hope not, You really really

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<v Speaker 1>would hope not. But you know, we need to see

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<v Speaker 1>where Jason Witten's role is going to be with this team.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he's excited about coming back. You know, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>you just read the quote, but you know where is okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Is Jason Witton going to play eighty percent of the snaps? Again?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he gonna play seventy five percent of the snaps?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what number of the snaps is he going

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<v Speaker 1>to play? And then you know that's where I think

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of have to look at things and say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>is the level of how many snaps are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to play? You know, really really worth it for this team? Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>will you call us back if you track anybody down? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we will. We're hanging out. It's it's so much fun

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<v Speaker 1>just to hang out and look at elevators, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>exciting time. So yeah, but yeah, absolutely, we will check

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<v Speaker 1>back in which you guys appreciate you having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I want to know. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know right off about why we carry so many

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends. So Jason Witten, which is great news, comes

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<v Speaker 1>back and he is a full time starter. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we've opened up a couple of spots on the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't need that many tight ends. Obviously, keep Schultz,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not looking in the draft. I don't feel you

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<v Speaker 1>need one when's not coming back for one year. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think Witten back to three years, two solid years,

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<v Speaker 1>so that opens up spots on the roster area. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you talked to Witten's body? Um, I think that sounds

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know, I think it sounds sounds great.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds great. But you know, as as we all know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes our bodies don't are exactly you know, a line,

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<v Speaker 1>the line with with what you your mindset is, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't I don't know if you have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to draft to tight end. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think if if if one, like I said, if one

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<v Speaker 1>falls to you, that's fine. Um, I don't think no,

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<v Speaker 1>no start. I do think he starts I think he starts,

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<v Speaker 1>but you also have two young tight ends that that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to develop as well. So tight end, to me,

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<v Speaker 1>is not a huge need because you have a starter

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<v Speaker 1>and you have two good young backups or solid young backups.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Rico's gonna be in the mix anymore

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that experiment is over and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Swam returns in free agency. So I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think a spot opens up, but mainly a

0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:18.399
<v Speaker 1>spot opens up because because you were holding on to

0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Rico as this experiment guy to see what he can do,

0:21:21.080 --> 0:21:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and I just don't think it's gonna work out here.

0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:26.479
<v Speaker 1>I do think he'll sign with another team, yeaheah, Well

0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:28.880
<v Speaker 1>somebody be a full wouldn't to sign that guy. He's good, Well,

0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:32.000
<v Speaker 1>we don't have room on the roster's out problem. He's

0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:34.760
<v Speaker 1>not good for this offense, and I don't know if

0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:36.479
<v Speaker 1>that's a good thing or not. I just don't think

0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:38.480
<v Speaker 1>he's a good fit. He's gonna go. Think about this,

0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Antonio Gates would have never survived in Dallas for fifteen

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:43.560
<v Speaker 1>years if he had to block as much as Witten.

0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:46.240
<v Speaker 1>That's not his style. But there are offenses that will

0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:49.320
<v Speaker 1>have Rico, you know, maybe a Kansas City or somebody

0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:51.119
<v Speaker 1>that has a little bit more wide open style, and

0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I bet you he goes there and he does well.

0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:54.680
<v Speaker 1>I just don't think it would have worked here this

0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:57.240
<v Speaker 1>type of offense. Yeah, thanks, you think we get traded

0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:59.440
<v Speaker 1>for a number our first round picks, but we could

0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:03.480
<v Speaker 1>jump back into first round. Bye bye, Scott. It was

0:22:03.520 --> 0:22:08.720
<v Speaker 1>a great chat with you first round. But you know,

0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:11.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think that I thought his called his call

0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:15.320
<v Speaker 1>actually did though, dovetailed nicely into something we were talking

0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.480
<v Speaker 1>about in the break. When you start talking about what

0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Whitten's role is going to be, whether he's a starter

0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:22.639
<v Speaker 1>or whether he's not. One of the points that I

0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:25.040
<v Speaker 1>was making to you guys was I think that for

0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:27.680
<v Speaker 1>for Witten, if you look at how he has been

0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.720
<v Speaker 1>as a as a starting tight end for this team

0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and how that's what that's meant for other tight ends

0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:36.320
<v Speaker 1>that they've brought in over the years. Typically he's not

0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:39.200
<v Speaker 1>the one that's necessarily bringing those guys along and making

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:42.800
<v Speaker 1>it better for them to ultimately take his job like

0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:45.520
<v Speaker 1>he is not coming off the field like he is.

0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:47.840
<v Speaker 1>He wants to be on the field every play, and

0:22:48.000 --> 0:22:50.639
<v Speaker 1>I think in this move. I think Witten's going to

0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:52.000
<v Speaker 1>have to come back with a little bit of a

0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:55.280
<v Speaker 1>different role and a different attitude here, because you don't

0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:57.840
<v Speaker 1>want him to come back and be your starter every

0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.480
<v Speaker 1>down tight end because if he's doing that, you're not

0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:04.080
<v Speaker 1>developing Schultz, you're not developing Blake Jarwin. I think he

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.040
<v Speaker 1>has to come back more in a player coach kind

0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:10.000
<v Speaker 1>of role, not and I say that really loosely. I'm

0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:11.640
<v Speaker 1>not saying he's a coach, but I'm saying he's gonna

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 1>have to come back. In my opinion, he should come

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:16.200
<v Speaker 1>back in a role of I'm not only going to

0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:18.400
<v Speaker 1>add something for you at the tight end position, I'm

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.040
<v Speaker 1>also going to be helping bring these young guys along

0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:23.240
<v Speaker 1>because I'm not going to be here long term. I'm

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:24.800
<v Speaker 1>here for a short period of time. Also in the

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:28.400
<v Speaker 1>also in the break, Nick brought up, you know, red

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 1>zone troubles were a problem this year. I wonder if

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:34.240
<v Speaker 1>that was discussed up front. Hey, you you know, maybe

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:37.000
<v Speaker 1>not gonna start every play and everyone's gonna be behind you,

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:39.560
<v Speaker 1>but we do how they need here and you can

0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:42.639
<v Speaker 1>feel that. Yeah, And I think that was a big problem.

0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I do think that that Witten's absence hurt the team

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:48.480
<v Speaker 1>in the red zone. I think I was reading a

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 1>tweet that somebody had said, you know, this is this

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 1>is good. But I don't ever remember missing him last year.

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:56.800
<v Speaker 1>But I think Witten helped in the red zone and

0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:58.959
<v Speaker 1>ways even when he didn't have the ball. You need

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 1>a threat back there. You need a guy that can

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:03.159
<v Speaker 1>get open, that can find a way to kind of

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:06.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, post up and box out like a basketball

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 1>player and make a make a catch and and and

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I think just the threat of him um will open

0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:13.920
<v Speaker 1>up some things, or at least it did, you know

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 1>when he was here. He's gonna have to prove that

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:17.920
<v Speaker 1>he is still a threat, but I think he'll do that.

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:21.520
<v Speaker 1>And so I think his presence alone can help this

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 1>team in the red zone. And you know, if Frederick

0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 1>comes back to be the Frederick that you you know,

0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:29.880
<v Speaker 1>hope that he can be, then then that certainly will

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 1>be a help in the red zone as well. All right, guys,

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 1>we have another caller on the line, Kyle from Philly.

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 1>I believe, am I right? Kyle? Yes? Indeed, how's it

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:42.440
<v Speaker 1>going great? What are your thoughts? Well, I'm excited to

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 1>have Witting with the mitten's back. Um, I think he'll

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 1>definitely play a good role you know, for you know

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 1>that like how brought us was saying that, you know,

0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 1>that good bridge you know for these young young tight ends. Um.

0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I still I still would love to get a free

0:24:56.960 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>agent tight end, somebody a little younger, if not, you know,

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:04.160
<v Speaker 1>if we don't draft one. Um, but I definitely think

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.480
<v Speaker 1>our our premium pick should be like headed towards like

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 1>the D line and defensive end. Um. And yeah, I

0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 1>mean I just you know, I mean I am pretty excited.

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, it'll definitely help us on you know those

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:19.920
<v Speaker 1>third down uh situations and stuff like that. But I

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>would love to get a younger athletic tight end. Um

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:25.439
<v Speaker 1>just because it seems like he slowed down a little bit,

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, his final year, um, even though he was

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 1>still productive. Uh, you know, but just to have that

0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:33.719
<v Speaker 1>young athletic tight end, you know, that's that's pretty good

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>to have. I mean, I know we have you know,

0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.359
<v Speaker 1>we got jar Win and you know those guys, but um,

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:40.880
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, just somebody, you know, just maybe a younger

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:43.440
<v Speaker 1>veteran as well. You know, I really you know, the

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 1>way I think we should go. But you know, I

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>mean I am excited. Awesome, Thanks Kyle. I want to

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 1>ask you guys something. Um gosh, my mind is all

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.160
<v Speaker 1>over the place getting text from Dave Hellman. Dave, call

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:57.879
<v Speaker 1>us when you have something. Please, I know you're up

0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 1>there scouting. Otherwise, stop bothering us, Stop distracting David. Okay.

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:06.439
<v Speaker 1>My question just reflecting and reading some of these tweets,

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>not only about Jason Witton, but about Randy Gregory when

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 1>it comes to the draft. In my opinion, I don't

0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 1>think a roster move should change a draft need all

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, Oh, Randy's suspended. We should be looking

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:21.679
<v Speaker 1>at this. Oh, Jason Witton's back, so we don't need

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 1>to worry about this. I mean that this your draft.

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean this is a long time. This isn't a

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:32.679
<v Speaker 1>one year filler type of discussion. So really, how much

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>is it going to change? Well, I think that there's

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:38.120
<v Speaker 1>different ways to look at it. I think it kind

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 1>of does change a little bit. It just changes your

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>sense of urgency a little bit. It doesn't necessarily change

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 1>the need because if you've got a guy that can,

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.280
<v Speaker 1>that can you screams off the edge and he can

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:51.199
<v Speaker 1>get to the quarterback he's needed. It doesn't matter if

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.959
<v Speaker 1>you're sitting there with von Miller and d law I mean,

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I think you would still take him. But uh, and

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 1>those guys typically aren't there at number fifty eight. But

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 1>you never know. I just think that it's the combination

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>of Randy or don't know what's happening with him, the

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 1>combination of Taco hasn't done anything. And Dorin's armstrong. You know,

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.280
<v Speaker 1>he's okay for the first year. So yeah, I mean,

0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.159
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna play there? And I think I think that

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 1>that need it changes a lot because he was a

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>young player. Gregory's a young pass rushing defensive end who

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:23.200
<v Speaker 1>led was second on the team in sacks and pressures

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>last year. Now he's not here. But if the Cowboys

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.879
<v Speaker 1>were like, we don't ever have any issues with Gregory,

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>he has totally turned the corner. He is fine. If

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 1>they ever had that in their minds and then they

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>all needed to be you know, let go right, that's

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>my point. They's better not have ever done that. I

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 1>honestly don't think personally, I don't think that anything about

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:46.600
<v Speaker 1>that announcement should have changed plans for the Cowboys, because

0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>if the Cowboys had gotten into a false sense of security,

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 1>because again, this is not and this is not about

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>as we've heard before, this is not just about as

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.679
<v Speaker 1>dude can't stop smoking weed, like, there are other issues

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:01.399
<v Speaker 1>at play here, and this, as the Cowboys have described it,

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 1>this is a long term, probably a lifelong battle for him,

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.159
<v Speaker 1>not the battle of weed, but the battle of his

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 1>overall mental health. Right. And so if you don't allow

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>for the fact that he's going to have moments where

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe things aren't what they should be, like he's gonna

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>have moments where maybe he relapse, he's gonna have moments

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>where maybe he doesn't do something that he should be

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:25.080
<v Speaker 1>doing right, because this is a lifelong thing for him,

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>then then the Cowboys aren't really living by what they're saying,

0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>even publicly. Right. So I don't think anything about that

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.160
<v Speaker 1>announcement necessarily says to me that the Cowboys should change

0:28:35.200 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>their plans. If they were going to look for a

0:28:36.400 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>defensive end, then they should continue to look for a

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 1>defensive end. If they felt like we love what we

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>saw from Doran's Armstrong, and we love what we saw

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>from Taco, and we think Randy's going to be a

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:47.120
<v Speaker 1>part of that, then I think they continue with that

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:49.600
<v Speaker 1>same plan, and maybe if they feel like they're gonna

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>get to a point where they're gonna need a body,

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>then they bring in another body. But I think that

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>this doesn't change a lot, at least in my mind,

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't change a lot about what I was thinking

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 1>about the defensive end position. One more caller, guys, Mike

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>in Canada is on the line. Mike, what are your

0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>thoughts today? Oh man, I'm so happy. Nice to talk

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:10.160
<v Speaker 1>to you, Lindsay you do a great job on cover four.

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Thank you the season this year. But I think we

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 1>made a step and uh, I think Witten is I'm

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>just so glad to have him back. I think he's

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>really really going to help us in the red zone.

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Nobody gets opened in the red zone in the end

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 1>zone better than he does. Yeah, I agree with you there,

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, I just think it's gonna we're

0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to see what he does as far as

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 1>his development with the younger guys, and you know, he

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>knows usn't really coming off the field before I do.

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I just think he's going to have a different mindset.

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>I just believe it. You know how it is when

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you're when you're supposed to run the meeting, but then

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>you you come in fifteen minutes late. It's just a

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.520
<v Speaker 1>different mindset. You have to be different. I just don't

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>think you come in and that's a good point and

0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>do everything the way the way you were supposed to do.

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean this, you left. I I love Witten, but

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 1>he he wanted to do something else. It turns out

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't ready to leave. But when you come back,

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:07.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's different. And that also goes to the

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 1>leadership part of this. I loved I loved the way

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:15.680
<v Speaker 1>that Zeke and Dak stepped up in that leadership vacuum

0:30:15.760 --> 0:30:18.640
<v Speaker 1>last year and became the leaders of this offense. I

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>think Witt needs to come in and he's got to

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>defer to those guys a little bit, which is different

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>because when he was here before, they deferred to him.

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I think he needs to defer to them a little

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>bit because they are now the leaders, and they are

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>the unquestioned leaders of that offense and this team. And I, oh, hey,

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 1>lie still there. Sorry, No, I was just listening to

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>your commentary there. But yeah, Nick, I agree with you.

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Coming back a great book. By the way, the Friday

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Saturday and Sunday I read it. Thank you. I appreciate that.

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. And getting back to Wit, Yeah, he's gonna

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 1>have to take a reduced role. I agree with that.

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that it probably to get them the best

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>use out of him, use them in the critical situations

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 1>where you need to convert on third down and in

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the red zone, etc. And let the other guys develop.

0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much, Mike. You know, you know who else

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.240
<v Speaker 1>really stepped up in a leadership role last year? And

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>this could have been because of Frederick as well, but

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I thought Zack Martin was a completely different guy, especially

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>in the locker room, much more vocal. Wasn't leaning on

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Zach to talk you know, I probably help. I mean,

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry Frederick to talk to all the time, you know,

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the help that they had different lockers. Now speaking of lockers, um,

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 1>you know they got an issue. Well, you know, it's

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>not like this has been We've been here for twenty years.

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just relatively new. But but Garrett likes

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>to have the leaders in the corners spot to the

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>locker room, and Wit and Ill had that spot for

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years and then Zach Martin replaced them. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think this is the least of their issues

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<v Speaker 1>of figuring out you know what and somebody else was

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<v Speaker 1>thrown around on Twitter. He's gonna wear a different numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>wearing eighty two eighty two, that's the number he's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, I'm sorry they even have to say that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because Michael Jordan's more forty five eighty two. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be eighty two. It's gonna be eighty two, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be It's open. All right, guys, we thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in. What is the go ahead? I was just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say real quick, in case people haven't been following Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>it's on fire right now. Really interesting stuff from DeMarcus

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<v Speaker 1>square Martella spin it as well, like yeah, their tweets count.

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<v Speaker 1>What did Marcus say? DeMarcus, I haven't seen it's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a video, so I haven't seen it all. But people

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<v Speaker 1>are responding like, oh yeah, come on back. My assumption

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<v Speaker 1>is he's like, hey, maybe should we uh should we

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<v Speaker 1>kind of make this a defensive end thing too. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what Martella said, right. Martella is definitely said he let's

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<v Speaker 1>bring the gang back together. But it's fun, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>part of Twitter. That's the thing I love about the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of moments because everybody gets to chime in on

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<v Speaker 1>you know where that leads to. Because I've seen this

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<v Speaker 1>about one hundred times now. We already got a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>We're good, we got we got a quarterback. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>got a quarterback. Yes, I agree, don't argue with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying we've been arguing about this. We got

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<v Speaker 1>in too, I mean, DeMarcus Lawns and I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>you can use to say we just used to having

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation about another one that might not be around

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<v Speaker 1>or that's a great ender for me. Today. Draft show

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<v Speaker 1>is going on all week long. What about you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>When is the next podcast? Oh, we're back next week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>be back the week after that because that's green break,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll be back next week. So we got lots

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