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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back all the smoke. We're coming to you from Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Back home in his long star state.

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Speaker 2: We got a good one. This wouldn't have been a

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Speaker 2: long time coming. We've been trying to connect the dots

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Speaker 2: with this dude for a long time. Man, one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite actors and just one of the genuine, real

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Speaker 2: good people in this space, and there's not too many

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Speaker 2: of those.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 4: Mari Hardwick, thank you, thank you, thank you, sat having people.

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Speaker 2: How's life recently nominated for a Grammy name Ghost.

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Speaker 5: Ghost that's crazy, bro, I'm uh.

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Speaker 2: For your roll in star trek Man and many hats.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying, Bro, I'm and and by the way, Stack's

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Speaker 4: if you remember this. But when I started and the

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Speaker 4: music thing, it was spoken word poetry. I had a

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Speaker 4: show called Versus and Flow and I would get up

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Speaker 4: neo soul artists. The likes young poets, which is the

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Speaker 4: best part of it to me, is like giving the

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Speaker 4: stage to young people to figure out their voice and

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Speaker 4: bro in the audience, write in the epicenter, right in

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Speaker 4: the middle, death smack in the middle. One night, man,

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Speaker 4: I get up and there is the Laker at the time,

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Speaker 4: the Laker great Matt Bonds, and I remember thinking to myself,

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Speaker 4: we might be all right in the next twenty years.

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Speaker 4: And by we, what I meant was people who looked

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Speaker 4: like me transitioning not out of sport, right, but really

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Speaker 4: speaking of voice, being able to figure out a voice

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Speaker 4: beyond sport. And I remember looking at Madden thinking, this

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Speaker 4: is nice. It was a nice time, and Cali, things

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Speaker 4: were different.

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Speaker 2: You was with the Spurs, early time with the Spurs

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Speaker 2: and early two thousands.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And so Matt been supporting for so long and by

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Speaker 4: the way, God God Stephen as too stag Man been

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Speaker 4: rocking with me for the longest I've been rocking with him.

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Speaker 4: One of the realist cats in the league. The league

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Speaker 4: is a bit different now, Yes, the world different.

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Speaker 5: The world is the.

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Speaker 2: World is different now.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it's been nice, man. It was amazing to

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Speaker 4: get a nomination for the side of the entertainment industry.

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Speaker 4: To your point, Matt, that I don't put food on

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Speaker 4: the table, or I haven't thus far. So that was

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Speaker 4: super humbling, man, because just reminded me that it's a

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Speaker 4: nice Uh.

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Speaker 1: How motherfucking talented you are. How about that part anytime

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Speaker 1: you're getting your flowers. It's a beautiful thing, bro, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. It's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And the declaration to again the young cats who

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Speaker 4: look like us, the young ladies who look like us.

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Speaker 5: Yo, empty the bag.

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Speaker 4: Empty it before you go up to the pearly gates,

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Speaker 4: and God go, what did you do with it?

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Speaker 5: I gave you a lot of shit in there.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 4: You don't want God to scourry through the bag and

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Speaker 4: go it's seventh motherfucking things still in there. So for me,

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Speaker 4: that was always in objective like get it all out,

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Speaker 4: but while doing so good permission other people to get

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Speaker 4: it all out.

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Speaker 5: You want to see it, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Across my mom. You want to see his pat I'm

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Speaker 3: just I'm just cool, my nigga. I can't help that,

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Speaker 2: That's what God gave me.

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Speaker 3: I mean, hey, that's one of them. That's one of them.

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Speaker 3: Definitely let that out.

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Speaker 2: The bag too fresh to be stall man got to

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Speaker 5: So it's a long time coming to the brother's point.

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Speaker 4: And uh, we were supposed to be on you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we did something together for uninterrupted last summer right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we did. It was really cool that I did it, Maddy.

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Speaker 5: We did some ship.

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Speaker 3: We did some ship.

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Speaker 4: We did a softball game at UCLA. We just played no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: but we did some ship stacked so.

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Speaker 3: Many years back.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, him being out because you know here, you

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Speaker 4: know here food in baseball. Yeah, crazy, I just said

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Speaker 4: he was six ninety went six eight. Why you take

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Speaker 2: I don't want to steal. I don't like to lie.

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Speaker 5: Oh, but with the right shoot not them shoes. But

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Speaker 5: if we give you what's who got some kicks in there?

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Speaker 1: We don't wear them no more. That makes it two

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Speaker 1: to wear them high high heels, high tops, not even

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about the high souls.

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Speaker 3: The David Robinson so wings wings.

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Speaker 2: Long Stack wants to be an actor one day. Yeah, Stack,

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Speaker 2: you're a talent scout.

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Speaker 1: What what what would you think? He didn't make fun

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Speaker 1: of me like Kevin Hart. Appreciate that. That's my boy.

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Speaker 3: I love you, bro, I think that. Yeah, my dream

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Speaker 3: got him up, don't really got my ship down. Really

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Speaker 5: H so for me for me, mad And I know

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Speaker 5: you know art really well.

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Speaker 4: And it's too controversial for me to say to one

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Speaker 4: cat who in music when I think about music? Since

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Speaker 4: you let in with that point, he's in jail.

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Speaker 5: Now we all know.

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Speaker 3: Who he is, the R and B. King.

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Speaker 4: I always would have been a phenomenal actor, and I

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Speaker 4: always thought that Kanye would be a great actor. And

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Speaker 4: what I realized is that what I honor perhaps most.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I guess Robert tried it, Kanye. What I

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Speaker 4: honor most is that he and he made a comment

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Speaker 4: was he was like, I want to get my chops

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Speaker 4: right if I were to do that. One of the

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Speaker 4: things that was most fascinating about your brother, our brother

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Speaker 4: being in the league and he's doing it right now, Matt, Matt,

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Speaker 4: you need to take this shit in.

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Speaker 2: I already seen it. I think he's good enough to

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Speaker 5: So this is my point.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that was so dope about Stephen

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Speaker 4: Jackson is that Stack was always and is always who

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Speaker 4: he is and the most confusing thing. And you try

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Speaker 4: to not as an actor give too much away because

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Speaker 4: your tricks are your tricks and it puts food on

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Speaker 4: your table. But one of them was confusing things about

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Speaker 4: that professionist a that it is monikered titled or labeled

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Speaker 4: acting when it should be not that because acting is

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Speaker 5: Anybody who acts is.

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Speaker 4: So the authenticity and sincerity that comes with a Stack

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Speaker 4: that when you came to the League, David Stern was

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Speaker 4: at what point of being commissioner.

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Speaker 2: He was in full almost almost on his way out.

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Speaker 1: So I'm right also to the point where he was

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Speaker 4: Okay that I throw a nice love to you, And

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Speaker 4: the reality is that an Alan Everson and a Stack

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Speaker 4: Jamaret doesn't count as much where I'm going at because

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Speaker 4: Ja Morant is a victim but also a victim I'm

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Speaker 4: gona specify a victim of a generation that has to

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Speaker 5: Who am I? What is my thing? But y'am being

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Speaker 5: dufeleously gifted? What is my thing? But and Alan Iverson

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Speaker 4: My roof for our NBA and Stack was very befitting

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Speaker 5: And when I think about you carry that to me,

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Speaker 4: Rather work at the local, whatever the local is, rather

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Speaker 4: than sell your soul. To me, my answer is he

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Speaker 4: that innate desire to be like fuck that, I'm Stack.

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Speaker 4: He also wears stack really well. And we just saw

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Speaker 5: My nigga might as well and make ghost Tatasha.

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Speaker 4: So I really feel and I've never said this to

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Speaker 4: and you need an ability to forgive the shit. By

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Speaker 5: It's always more.

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Speaker 4: And Matt, you ain't far off of being the same

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Speaker 5: And I ain't just saying that.

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Speaker 4: I know you'all gonna get teased by the rest of

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Speaker 4: oh claim these cats.

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Speaker 3: Cool, But yeah, I already knew that. Y'all.

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Speaker 4: You're super laid back and you operate at a real

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Speaker 4: We operate at a place where we are super secure

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Speaker 5: Of ability to go to a place a gift. There's

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Speaker 2: There's some negative energy. You're out out right now. And

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Speaker 2: we're definitely not about that. We're more just fans of

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Speaker 2: character you played. Will we ever see there's obviously a

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Speaker 2: ton of spin offs going on in that universe. Will

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Speaker 2: we ever see you as ghost in any shape or form?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, you will, Maddie and we talked about, Uh.

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Speaker 3: I got the chills, right, that's my favorite character.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm ghosting with a life. I just don't

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Speaker 1: have the suits and the money and shit like I

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Speaker 1: act like you I act like or the good hair

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Speaker 1: not the hair either. My shit ain't that bad, but

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Speaker 1: it ain't that ain't.

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Speaker 4: So Matt asked a really good question, I think, and

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Speaker 4: I could compliment Courtney and Curtis and saying this, we definitely, Matt,

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Speaker 4: we as a culture, as a black culture and brown culture,

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Speaker 4: Latinos included, we did not have outside of of a

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Speaker 4: Sicilian character, whether it be Marlon Brando playing a Sicilian character,

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Speaker 5: Al Pacino who is actually Sicilian.

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Speaker 4: Right and Robert de Niro being part Irish, part Italian

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Speaker 4: my favorite all time actor outside of Steve McQueen. But

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Speaker 4: looking at uh and I would say probably Denzel. But

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Speaker 4: character of those big, big mob movies and gangster movies,

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Speaker 4: what they provided was it provided more of a peak.

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Speaker 4: It was very Shakespearean, all of them were. But it

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Speaker 4: provided a peak into uncles that we knew, grandfathers that

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Speaker 5: Oh, I'm a fan of that. That's a different human

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Speaker 4: So I've never had issues with those people being of confusion, Matt.

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Speaker 5: Bro. Our leverage increases, Our leverage increases.

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Speaker 5: You would kill that, bro, You would kill that shit.

444
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 5: You know I'm saying.

445
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 4: It's just I just want our fans to allow their

446
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 4: voices to be You got ahead on you, bro, you shocked.

447
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 4: They told me about you for you walked in, but

448
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 4: you sharp the shit you here, you sharp. I want

449
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 4: our fans to be a part of that. Matt, I do, Bro,

450
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 4: I do. I want our fans to be pro hip

451
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 4: hop is a three billion dollar company. It's a three

452
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 4: billion dollar company, not a company on Mario. Yes, it

453
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 4: is a company. It's an overriding, all encompassing company.

454
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,160
Speaker 3: Last I check.

455
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 4: You can count on one hand the people who look

456
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 4: like me, you and Steven who have some of those billions.

457
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 4: And it's not a three billion dollar company, not if

458
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 4: jay Z almost has three billions to himself. It's a

459
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 4: seventeen billion dollar conglomerate of reality.

460
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 5: I want our fans to be more fan of themselves.

461
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 5: I'm big on that. I want people to really like

462
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 5: themselves more.

463
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 4: I just think it makes it all a bit more balanced.

464
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 4: You ain't got to run past your wife's dack and

465
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 4: bulldoze her to get to you, because you would the

466
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,159
Speaker 4: one that someone salivated and wanted to meet. That's dope,

467
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 4: that's flattering and shit. You ain't got to run over

468
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 4: Matt's kids to get to Matt. If that day your

469
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,360
Speaker 4: wife says some shit that actually saved your life. If

470
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 4: that day Matt's twins looked at him in a way

471
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 4: that may and Matt go, you motherfuckers really got it.

472
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 4: I'm the lucky one to be the father of y'all.

473
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 4: A fan runs past that to get to us. I

474
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 4: think once fans get a lot more in love with themselves.

475
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 5: I think they can sit and go. There's a lot

476
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 5: on Murray in that character.

477
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 4: But I equally see Omar so that when they meet

478
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 4: O mariy out they get to go I rock with you.

479
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 5: Fans are like, I miss you. I'm like, I'm so here.

480
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 4: I'm right here, Stack, I'm so here, Bro.

481
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 5: I'm in Texas, man, right now, I'm in the state,

482
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 5: in an undisclosed.

483
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 4: Spot, the state that raised not only Stack, but equally

484
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 4: a differend of mine who grew up in Tarot, Texas,

485
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 4: and that being Eric Ak Jamie Fox. Like, I'm here, man, traded.

486
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 4: Truth is in Houston, j Prinn. I know a lot

487
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 4: of a lot.

488
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 5: I'm a Texas lover because I'm from the A.

489
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah home, I.

490
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 5: Am at home, bro, So like I'm always here.

491
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 4: People can always pull up and go let me just

492
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 4: how let you for a minute, I'm here.

493
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 2: Characters or other characters you drew when you were coming

494
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 2: up with who ghost was going to be on the screen.

495
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 5: Matt you you're doing some ship today, bro, You motherfucker.

496
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 5: He's talented. You're looking at me like it's not doing

497
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 5: bad yet. No, No, he just burnt that just he

498
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 5: just burned out.

499
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 3: That's just burnt out face, just burnout. You're not burn out.

500
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but don't believe that, not far.

501
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 4: I guess I was real big on on the era.

502
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 4: You spoke about you guys having fun with the Peaky

503
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 4: Blinders night in the pubs Dack, that's prohibition right, kills

504
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 4: killed it.

505
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 5: He killed the movie that he and Robert Downe at Jr.

506
00:24:59,640 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 3: One day.

507
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 5: What an actor, great actor. I would love to work

508
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 5: with him one day.

509
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 4: And who wouldn't want to work with you know, the

510
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 4: incredible director of course that Chris Nolan is.

511
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 5: But in terms of Peaky Blinders.

512
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 4: Just to use that example to answer your question, Matt,

513
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 4: I went backwards and thinking about the gangs I went

514
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 4: to yesteryear, and what I did, Bro, was I tried

515
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 4: to grab from thine self. So so Matt, you threw

516
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 4: me THELB, my bro, you threw me the LIB and

517
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 4: going yeah, oh right, A righteous actor pulls from themselves

518
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 4: for sure, and to thine own self be true. And nigga,

519
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 4: we all flawed, the three of us might not in quantity.

520
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 4: And I tend to believe that executors don't perhaps carry

521
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 4: the quantity of flaws the number of flaws that the

522
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 4: cats we grew up with carry. But I would go

523
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 4: so far as to say, our flaws are almost bigger

524
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 4: than there. Our four are bigger than their fourteen. It

525
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 4: just is you're not You don't make it to the

526
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 4: NBA unless you're called to it.

527
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 5: It's not a it's very political. It doesn't work.

528
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 4: It's not and uh and Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson

529
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 4: culture world can't say that, so I'm saying it for them.

530
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,239
Speaker 5: They were highly called. It's a very it's called. They

531
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 5: were chosen.

532
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 4: So if I was part of a world in which

533
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 4: I was chosen, particularly as a Black American doing entertainment,

534
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 4: which sports is often forgotten about as entertainment, it is entertainment.

535
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 5: And y'all are artists. You don't hear that enough, particularly

536
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 5: me being an next athlete.

537
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 4: I'm gonna sell y'all down the down the road of

538
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 4: celebrating the artists that you are all day long. And I

539
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 4: and I realized that if I needed to pull for

540
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 4: myself Matt, then I went, so what is Omari?

541
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 5: What what can Omar bring this guy?

542
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 4: Okay, Mary speak Spanish enough, right, Omar's been confused for

543
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 4: Dominican his whole life, Matt, You've been confused for being

544
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 4: Latino your whole life.

545
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 5: So we what what? So?

546
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 4: How does that look? Yes, this nigga's been confused with

547
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 4: being Cuban. Of course he hasn't look Matty, I saw

548
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 4: you look at him.

549
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: Matt, think I got kids of Dominican. Report.

550
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 5: Well, here's the other thing. Here's the ship.

551
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 3: I don't think there's the other thing.

552
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: Last I checked when I watched Sammy Social Swinger bat

553
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 4: the first Sami, so I was raised watching motherfucker looked

554
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 4: like Steve they Ne motherfucker ended up looking like Matt Vaughn.

555
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 4: I look like Jim, shout out Sam. But in the

556
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: in the grand scheme of of pulling out of myself,

557
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 4: Matt from me, I was like, I'm an athlete. I'm

558
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 4: a poet. That's a big thing, bro. I'm a poet,

559
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 4: so my sensibilities are different.

560
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 6: Right.

561
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 5: A poet is not pent to pad.

562
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 4: A poet is staring out a window and stack oh

563
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 4: and Matt saying to the.

564
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 5: Young poet, yo, what you're doing. And they're truly not daydreaming.

565
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 4: They're devising whatever, playing the divisor to try to save

566
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: the world. So my outlook on life was perhaps more

567
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 4: of a poetic outlook. So I went as far back

568
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 4: bro as Langston Hughes and then meets Nicky Barnes. I

569
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 4: went Malcolm X, and then I thought Malcolm X, right,

570
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 4: so now let me go Miles Davis. I was marrying

571
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: Malcolm X to Miles Davis. I'm already raspy voiced like

572
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 4: Miles Davis. Then I was thinking, Nah, he shouldn't be

573
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 4: dressed like Tommy. I loved the way Joseph was dressed,

574
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: but to me, Ghot should be dressed like Nicki Barnes

575
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 4: and them with dreams. Why not wear suits? So I

576
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 4: loved that Courtney was down with that. It's just like suits.

577
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 4: It is crazy budget cutting into our budget because the

578
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: suits were a lot more expensive than anybody else's wardrobe

579
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 4: outside of the Touri's dresses.

580
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 5: But the reality is for me mad. It was really diving.

581
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 4: Back into the sixties bro and into Harlem Renaissance and

582
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 4: fucking Stokely and freaking Huey P.

583
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 5: Newton, and I was.

584
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 4: Really going a lot of black panthers, a lot of

585
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 4: activists because you know how it worked back then, and

586
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 4: particularly in that Berkeley area, right, particularly that Harlem area.

587
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 4: Like the way it worked was gangster, still got to gangster.

588
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 4: But I'd be damn if them activists weren't gonna make

589
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 4: you pass out Turkey's doing.

590
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: Oh nah. Yeah.

591
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 4: So that was a beautiful marriage. And I think for me, Maddie,

592
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 4: I just thought, the goal in life.

593
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 5: For me is that. What I heard is that? What

594
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 5: excuse me?

595
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 4: I heard God say, which is a mary, make the

596
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 4: world small as you can? I heard God say, Really,

597
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 4: when I was young, Matt, the age when you and

598
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 4: I played in a softball game at LA when the

599
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 4: twins what age they were and they were maybe six,

600
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 4: six or seven years old when I met match boys

601
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 4: at that age a little bit older.

602
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 5: My son is nine.

603
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 4: I remember thinking Nov's twelve in a minute and a week,

604
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 4: brave as nine.

605
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 5: I remember thinking, like the world to be small. That's

606
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 5: what Muhammad Ali did Wright stack right, Matt, Muhammed at

607
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 5: the world small.

608
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: So I realized that my objective was to match what

609
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 4: God had wanted me to do my whole life.

610
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 5: And now that I'm being cast as a.

611
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 4: Thirty eight year old young man to play such an

612
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 4: incredible character. I'll always think Curtis and Courtney for throwing

613
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 4: me the live of getting all I could think of?

614
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 4: So how do I make the world small on Sunday night?

615
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 5: When is it air?

616
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 3: Courtney?

617
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 5: Sunday Night?

618
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: What time?

619
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 5: Cool? Oh? That time? Okay? So teenagers asleep, but they

620
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 5: gonna sneak it.

621
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 4: So how do I make it where Nova's age, which

622
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 4: is almost twelve, all the way to the great grandparents

623
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 4: of a twelve year old. Now you're pushing ninety. How

624
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 4: do I get twelve and ninety in the same room

625
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 4: while Stacking his wife are debating about what's going on

626
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,239
Speaker 4: between Ghost and Tasha. How do I get the pre

627
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: teen and the great grandma to equally debate.

628
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the teen directly debating with the great grandparent.

629
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 4: And I just thought a show is one thing, but

630
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 4: God has really given me a gift to try to

631
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 4: make conversation happen via the use of me as a

632
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 4: pretty solid actor.

633
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 5: And that was the thing.

634
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 3: I thought.

635
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 5: The only way to do that is to go get

636
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 5: all the generations.

637
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 4: So for me, Matt, it couldn't be the local homies

638
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 4: that I grew up, who was slinging crack rock.

639
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 5: The nigger I grew up's name was Uli. I could

640
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 5: think about Uli for a minute. I'm from that.

641
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 4: I had to think about Uli because Uli was the

642
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 4: one who had the blood dripping for the chain. When

643
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 4: my big bro told me stop staring at Uli, it

644
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 4: only was like, Nah, that nigga's cool, And so Uli

645
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 4: embraced me.

646
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 5: Uli was dead within five years of embracing me.

647
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 4: But equally, if I'm at Harlem during that time, wouldn't

648
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 4: a Malcolm Little now Malcolm X embrace me if Uli

649
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 4: did so? My thought was, whomever would embrace me, make

650
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 4: ghost an amalgamation of those people would embrace me. If

651
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 4: the gangster would take me in, and if the activists

652
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 4: would equally take me in, if you can marry the

653
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 4: two together, then you you're making the room smaller.

654
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 5: When the room is the viewership of who's downing.

655
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: In and watching it sounds like great balance, yeah, me,

656
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: because if it's one extreme, you balance it with something

657
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: something more level headed or so just being able to

658
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: balance balance the extremes, Yeah, to be able to garnish

659
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: the entire so that.

660
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 4: You could feel that, so that you are a stat

661
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 4: could feel that now you're you're you're You're still the

662
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: same player that took a basketball and thrusted it without

663
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: releasing the basketball in a one Kobe breen Bryant's face.

664
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Speaker 4: That that's stat can say all that along. I think

665
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 4: like ghost though, Yes, that because you think a lot

666
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 4: like me. Word, Matt, you were the ghost of the

667
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: league at times, but you don't look like Dennis Robbin

668
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 4: he equally was or was Rick Mahrn That Nah, because

669
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 4: Rick wasn't his balanced.

670
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 5: That's the point I'm making.

671
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 4: You were balanced, Bro, the same dude you did that too,

672
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 4: became one of your dear homies.

673
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 5: That to me, that's the objective.

674
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: Whether Canaan rocks with you at the three crop, like,

675
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 4: make it where they can all at least sit down.

676
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 4: That's what the mob boss is there, right, like just

677
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 4: sit down, just let's have a conversation.

678
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: Did you get to keep all them suits because they

679
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: was fitted? Did you get to keep.

680
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 5: Them stacking joints all fitted just for me? Bro? Right

681
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 5: week before rap week before No.

682
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 4: Season six, No Think the Board Season six, Courtney, let

683
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 4: me go do a movie.

684
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 5: I still had three episodes to do.

685
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: You know that?

686
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 5: Who done it?

687
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: The final sixth episode where the who done It's right,

688
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 4: and I know a lot of the fans were mad, like, wait,

689
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 4: who done It's better? The reality of the who done it?

690
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 4: Is better to be the ghost a living But obviously

691
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: we learned that who done it? Were just about who

692
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 4: did it? What a conclusion being that ghost is not

693
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 4: a lie? I can say it now still hurts a

694
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 4: week before a stack like rap rap, pack up the

695
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 4: New York apartment rap rap, because I know the fate

696
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: of my character.

697
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 5: Remember the world.

698
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: I know the faith but you knew already.

699
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I had three episodes, but this is

700
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 4: after that. I had three episodes left. When Courtney did

701
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 4: a really cool, solid and let me go to a movie.

702
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 4: I did a movie with Nate Parker American. Skin had

703
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 4: to lose some weight, real real quick, had to gain

704
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 4: the weight back and then finish three more episodes of Power.

705
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 4: We are now finished the sixteenth episode of season six

706
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 4: and a half. I call it that because prior years,

707
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 4: except for season one Stack, we were ten episode season

708
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 4: one eight so final season sixteen, so season six and

709
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 4: a half. Frank Fleming, Who's phenomenal. He was the show's

710
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 4: clothing designer. He was the costume designers what you call it.

711
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: So he designed and the look of the show, the

712
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 4: whole thing. He was the costume designer as much as

713
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: much as someone is giving the credit up being a

714
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: set designer. He was the costume designer for all thirty

715
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 4: five to sixty characters, guest stars included. He called me,

716
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 4: he said, Oh, I don't know if you ever realized

717
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 4: how many suits we bought that were never used, that

718
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 4: they had tags on them, Homie, so some I hadn't

719
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 4: even done the nip tuck.

720
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 5: They're all yours. Oh wow, I said, what he said,

721
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 5: They're all yours, just my rap gift to you.

722
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: Damn wow.

723
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 4: So I said, when can I come in? He goes,

724
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 4: your what are your? What's going on? I said, Jay

725
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 4: and I packing the New York apartment. We had bought

726
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 4: the spot in Denver, which you knew, Matt. We were

727
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 4: hiding out in Denver so doing the thing and the thing,

728
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 4: and Chauncey was excited about me coming back to denverstack

729
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 4: Chauncey billup shout out to Chauncy, like really excited. Champ

730
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 4: told me he was gonna stay in Denver if I

731
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 4: in fact really came back that Nigga left.

732
00:34:58,920 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 3: Champ.

733
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 5: You left me home, but I was prepping to move,

734
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 5: and uh, I went bro. I was so excited that

735
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 5: and I found there's so many suits.

736
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: Bro.

737
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 5: I was like, wow, felt so complimentary.

738
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you deserved them.

739
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 4: It was so many suits. She said, Okay, I got them.

740
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 4: I said, are you are you doing? And he said, no,

741
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: you I can. He said, I know your measurements. So

742
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 4: pick out five, I said. He said no, no, no, you're

743
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 4: getting seventy five suits. But pick out five that you

744
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 4: could use right away for future things, interviews, whatnot. And

745
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 4: then I'll get those done the way that all the

746
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 4: other suits.

747
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

748
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, exactly.

749
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 3: Man.

750
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 5: That look you got so within that space.

751
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 4: Of those five suits being made and the other seven

752
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 4: years so floating.

753
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 3: Stolen.

754
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 5: No.

755
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 4: I called Frank and I said, are you mailing him?

756
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 4: You said you were mailing them, they were shipping them.

757
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 5: He said, oh.

758
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 3: I said it wasn't ship one of them moves. Huh

759
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 3: oh it was his ship.

760
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 5: No, not Frank, now, Frank, No, Frank was right.

761
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: He was right, almost in tears, right, said Frank, I

762
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 4: never got those suits. Crickets on the phone. Frank has

763
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: offered me to buy some of those suits. Years have passed,

764
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 4: obviously spent five years since that show.

765
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 5: It so hurt him that he is offered to buy

766
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 5: some of those suits.

767
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 4: Some of them either Oswald and or Tom Ford, whatever

768
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 4: suits I got from that show, or whatever suits I

769
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 4: had gotten or been gifted to war to either promote

770
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 4: power and or any other thing, and stack those suits

771
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 4: just happened to not be returned.

772
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 5: From the closet. The entire.

773
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 4: Rolodexum suits never got Wow, Thomas Man, you.

774
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 2: Got you special because you just made a motherfucking suit

775
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: story so suspenseful and had everybody on that I tell

776
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: about suits, and he just had me running like, God, damn,

777
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: what have these suits? Think this nigga?

778
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 5: But but but I had to tell you that way.

779
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 4: I had to tell There's no other way to tell

780
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 4: you the story, Matt, because I wanted it to be

781
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 4: known that the benevolence involved in that was that Frank

782
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 4: had called and said, I have all these suits you

783
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 4: and I can't not tell that story because Frank was

784
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 4: a g for setting those suits inside for me. So

785
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 4: for me, it is the thought that counts. As corny

786
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 4: as that may sound, that's real. He really really was,

787
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 4: Like I got these suits for you, bro, and so

788
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 4: he and I.

789
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 5: I don't know.

790
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 4: You could use the word ghost all you want in

791
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: many facets in life, but in this regard it's pretty apropos.

792
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 4: I guess a ghost took them because I never saw

793
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 4: those suits again.

794
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 5: On that's a real story, bro.

795
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 4: And if I could, if I could elongate the pat

796
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 4: less stack gott of putting the motherfucker suits on you.

797
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: Pimpin yeah, I told you six seven, Yeah, I would

798
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: have put suits with so different.

799
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 2: Early in the morning of the show too, that nigga

800
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 2: suited up at seven am like that, waking up early

801
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: early to be making Tom he's gonna kill.

802
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 4: His first I always wonder, I always you know, I know,

803
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 4: y'all give credit to Spike Lee for being such a

804
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 4: part of the basketball movement and hip hop becoming so

805
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 4: synonymous with basketball. Spike has a lot to do with that.

806
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 4: You think about Michael Jeffrey Jordan and his commercial, there's

807
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 4: a lot, you know the relationship there. Power was such

808
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 4: a beloved showing the hip hop culture. I always wonder

809
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,479
Speaker 4: what you guys experienced was either coming outro in terms

810
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 4: of almost exiting stage left as NBA greats and still

811
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 4: playing when Power was rocking. I always wonder what it

812
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 4: what the buzz was for the NBA in terms of

813
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 4: players watching it.

814
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: With it, man, A lot of as soon as the

815
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: game over.

816
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: You seen the new show Power Mad because.

817
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: I wanted to binge watch it. I don't want to

818
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: know when to talk about it because I don't like

819
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: just watch one is not enough for you go. I

820
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: like to watch at least two, three, four, call asleep

821
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: on you know what I mean? So, and then rewatch

822
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 2: that when I leave off. So I never really want

823
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: but we were all fucking with that ship.

824
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 3: Bro.

825
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm the guy that like on Hulu some shows come out,

826
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: They're supposed to come out Thursday, but they come out

827
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: eat them before the out midnight.

828
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been waiting on them. I'll be waiting.

829
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: You ain't seen what happened to this the whole day up?

830
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 6: Man?

831
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 3: I know you see Kill last night? Oh my bad?

832
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 5: But did you watchoo wife Field?

833
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: Did you so?

834
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 5: But you had to? She would get mad like.

835
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: I didn't watch it. Yeah, that's how we are now

836
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: still with shows with Yellowstone.

837
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm anna ask so when me and my

838
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: girl fight, I'm gonna go watch our show without her?

839
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you would you? And then actly would you play

840
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 5: it off like you ain't seen it?

841
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna letter. See me, I'm a letter, Come downstairs

842
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: and see me in my little spot.

843
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 3: Probably leave that day.

844
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: That's what I'll be doing. We getting our fights. That's

845
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: my pettiness is I'll watch the show we're watching together

846
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: by myself, like ye see, fuck you.

847
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: That.

848
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: I was reading the book before it started. Do the

849
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 4: fans of all the smoke y'all got crazy fans? Now

850
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 4: y'all got a lot of fans. Do they understand what

851
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 4: you meant when you said we make love to pressure?

852
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: I don't think a lot of people do.

853
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 4: What would what would your I want to carry that

854
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 4: for the next twenty years of mine? You talked about

855
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: Star Trek. That's a different kind of pressure. I'm truly

856
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 4: in space.

857
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 5: That's a different barometric literal pressure.

858
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 3: How you act like you in space, that's a whole

859
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: different thing.

860
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 5: That's crazy, It's a different thing, right.

861
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 4: So in my mind, I'm like, what that I want

862
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,879
Speaker 4: to carry as a mantra? Your answer to what that

863
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 4: means to we make love to pressure? When I think

864
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 4: about the next twenty years of my career.

865
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: I can say this.

866
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: It was exactly the way I thought of it when

867
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: I was being asked about my road to get into

868
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: the NBA. Everything I've been through, a big brother getting killed,

869
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: all the stuff I've oed in on certain stuff at

870
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: drugs at nineteen twenty years old, like all the stuff

871
00:40:59,400 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: I've been through.

872
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 3: I was asking the question because I was.

873
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: It was after the championship, and they said, nothing broke,

874
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: but you've been through so much stuff and you stay,

875
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 1: you made to this point like this doesn't feel great.

876
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: I said, I make love the pressure because I know

877
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: how to make love to the good and bad times.

878
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: So when it's when I'm down on having a bad time,

879
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: you won't know it because I'm thankful for being alive

880
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: and I got a day. I'm alive today to make

881
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: things better. You know what I'm saying. The good times, yeah,

882
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: you'renna enjoy the good times, but I know how to

883
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: enjoy the bad the same way. So I make love

884
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: the pressure.

885
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: Whatever it is.

886
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 5: I love that ak Frankie Beverly saying joy and pain.

887
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 5: Can't he did?

888
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: That's it. That's it. That's it, Joy and paint, that's it.

889
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: And you really need it, and even today being successful,

890
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to find joy.

891
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

892
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so much pain still in me. There haven't let

893
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: out there.

894
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

895
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 4: I want you to know it's gonna stay there. I

896
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 4: just need that full circle. Matt Barry said, could Stack

897
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: be an actor? He wants to be an actor? Shack

898
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 4: I said, when I got money, and not money money,

899
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 4: but like the beginning of the career, like grid Iron gag,

900
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: you know, Dwayne Johnson two thousand and five money, I

901
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 4: remember thinking.

902
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 5: Damn, I'm not gonna have pain anymore. I needed the pain.

903
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 4: Who's a dude who used to let me live on

904
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 4: his couch in La And he said to me, said, bro,

905
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 4: that ain't go nowhere anything.

906
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 5: It's in the front. I said, somebody that's in the

907
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 5: back pocket. Hell no, I said, once it's there's there.

908
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 4: And sometimes Stack, I would listen to Tupac and I

909
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 4: always loved that Tupac felt still hungry to me. And

910
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 4: then I would listen to BIGGI and I was like, Damn, Biggie,

911
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 4: don't sound hungry no more. Maybe it wasn't that Biggie

912
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: was lacking the hunger and or the passion. Maybe it

913
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 4: was that Pop just felt this urgency to work on

914
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 4: the pain at all times, and Biggie might have decided

915
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 4: at times when the camera's not wrong, apartment was constantly

916
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 4: working on it. So part of my answer to you, Matt,

917
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 4: that's what I was answering that I think Stack could

918
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 4: be a great actor because Stack, I'll always see your pain.

919
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 4: So if you say, but oh, you see my joy

920
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 4: a fucking lutely, but I see your pain, bro, I

921
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: think it's one of the dopest shits about you. I

922
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 4: just really don't want people to try to Pain should

923
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 4: not be discarded in the nearest trash can.

924
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 5: Pain is unbelievably beautiful.

925
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 4: Hallmark cards only work during Valentine's Pain is everything else,

926
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 4: it's everything.

927
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: Right, Well, the joy wouldn't feel so good without.

928
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 4: Without the pain, I mean, all the smoke is why why?

929
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 5: Why why did y'all title it that? I'll ask you

930
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 5: that man.

931
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: We were high as heir and his sister was high

932
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: with us, and she said it was.

933
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 4: Like, you're right, that's it right there, But it's double

934
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 4: it's double meaning.

935
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 3: But you know it's double meaning.

936
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: He mighty say something like that, and it just rings

937
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: to you like you don't even question it.

938
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 3: That's it, you know, Yeah, that's it.

939
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 5: If you knew better, you do better.

940
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: Baby.

941
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: Yesterday we did a show with Roy Jones and Are

942
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: Watt their partners with us.

943
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 3: Oh nice, all the smoke fight with our boxing side right.

944
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: Oh I love that man, and and congratulations, gratulations and.

945
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 5: Art of war and show song to is.

946
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: That's a crazy This was our first time doing a

947
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: cross show.

948
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 3: So I just came up, came up with the name

949
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 3: for the cross show. What is it? Ar the smoke?

950
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: I just said it just out the blue?

951
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 5: Am I am my guest host? Why not?

952
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

953
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: So we asked the question, hold on, hold on, hold on,

954
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: hold on, I would love, I would love.

955
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: We asked the question. We asked him a question. We

956
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: asked him a question. What entertainer our athlete would be

957
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: good to fit in with Roy Jones and Andre Ward?

958
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: Who can look good talking about the boxing with him?

959
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: I could, we asked, And we asked him that question. Also,

960
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: and I know you.

961
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 4: Can be a sport iu with be hop of with

962
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 4: Roy olive Is and fellow Capricorn level maybe one of

963
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 4: the greatest athletes we ever had as a monk.

964
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: We talked about that could play the basketball game or

965
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 2: it wouldn't beat somebody up later that night.

966
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, Pensacolas find us. I would do that in a heartbeat.

967
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 6: Bro.

968
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we definitely gonna have you lined up.

969
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: There were born and raised in g a tight knite family.

970
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: I live in about the last twenty years. Painted picture

971
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: of your of your upbringing, and how was it?

972
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 5: Mama popped both home Stack, which.

973
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 4: Was such a blessings. And it's an interesting thing when

974
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 4: that becomes such a blessing in our community, as you

975
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 4: know Stack, When all of a sudden somebody will say

976
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 4: Cosby family just because of mom and a popper both

977
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 4: in the house, you ain't got to be financially where

978
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 4: Claire and Cliff Huxtable words.

979
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 5: Both Cosbree family.

980
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 4: So that was a very unique reality for me, for

981
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 4: especially when I looked at the left and the right

982
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 4: and it was an all black neighborhood.

983
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 5: I grew up off Wesley Chapelin snap Fingerstack.

984
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 4: You know where it is non gentrified Decatur, Bro, this

985
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 4: ship is still not gentrified. I gotta go back and

986
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 4: do whatever I can to get it right. I planned to,

987
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 4: and it's getting right. There's beautiful businesses there beautiful people,

988
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 4: but it just sort of forgotten about it in the

989
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 4: downtown decayed areas. Start about more five of us in

990
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 4: the house as in kids, because the oldest brother was more.

991
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 5: He was in and out.

992
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 4: He played at more House and as I told you all,

993
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 4: he went on to play for Detroit, but he was

994
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 4: definitely raised as the oldest brother. He was murdered, and

995
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: then Malik is over me. I definitely got middle kids syndrome. Shit,

996
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 4: I can relate to j cole song and then Jamil

997
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 4: who matt un Stack of course know who's in LA

998
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 4: and then Shiney was the lone.

999
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 5: Sister and uh all black neighborhood Browns.

1000
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 4: Male baseball soccer got kind of boring quick. Baseball turned

1001
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 4: to basketball, turned the football, and then at one point

1002
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 4: I was playing all three and was doing that in

1003
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 4: high school as well.

1004
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 5: But Golden Glade is still there.

1005
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 3: Stacked.

1006
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 4: I went to do a video for the Golden Clad

1007
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 4: song that's off the Grammy nominated album, and the skating

1008
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 4: Ring they try to close it down, my bro. The infatigable,

1009
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 4: undefeatable spirit of Decatur is replicated or reflected in the

1010
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 4: fact that the skating ring that raised us, Bro is

1011
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 4: still there.

1012
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 5: Not not not Cascades cast games was dope. This is

1013
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 5: called Golden Glide.

1014
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: The song, yes, right, that's the that's the two aunt.

1015
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I grew up right there, Bro. We was

1016
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 5: in the woods, Texas was the same. We played in

1017
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 5: the woods, right, growing in the woods.

1018
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 4: BB still in my hand from getting shot to this day,

1019
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 4: you know, in my in my uh, I would say

1020
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: six to twelve, thirteen year old running around self folks

1021
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 4: then moved the Stone Mountain. I'm in high school by then.

1022
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 4: But de caatur, I don't really, I don't you know.

1023
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 4: I said, I did a song recently, Bro, I got

1024
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 4: a project that the world will here soon and uh

1025
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 4: it's with an incredible cap from North Carolina, Anthony Hamilton.

1026
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 5: And Anthony had challenged me.

1027
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: He said, oh, I want the world to know more

1028
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 4: about where you're from and being the stack y'all know this.

1029
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 5: As a musical artist, you do say where you're from.

1030
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 4: As an actor, you don't as much because you got

1031
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 4: to hide out be wherever that character needs you to be,

1032
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 4: wherever that characters from.

1033
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 5: But I have.

1034
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 4: Stated it in songs, even in a song where they have,

1035
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 4: but Anthony missed it. So he was like, on this project,

1036
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 4: I want you to really put it out there. I

1037
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 4: was like, okay, So I did a song about it,

1038
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 4: and at one point it was a real nice, joyous

1039
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 4: moment to your point about joy Stack, where I said, man,

1040
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 4: I fuck around and realized in the middle of writing

1041
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 4: the verse, shit, ghosts from where I'm from, so as

1042
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 4: much as ghosts from New York, but ghosts from where

1043
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 4: I'm from. Because if y'all really believe in, all of

1044
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 4: the fans have humbled me equally and making me believe in.

1045
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 4: Curtis and Courtney hired me saying it's you, it's your role,

1046
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 4: this ship was made for you.

1047
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 5: Then ghosts were from where are you from?

1048
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 4: So that's an interesting, uh kind of perspective to look

1049
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 4: back when being asked, you know, how was your upbringing

1050
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 4: on and I think about it, I'm like, what's the

1051
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 4: most humbling part of that answer, Stack is the fact

1052
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 4: that any part of my upbringing is now forever in

1053
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: every single job and role I take on that I

1054
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,959
Speaker 4: get to carry the cater with me in that way.

1055
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 4: That's kind of a really cool thing, and I guess

1056
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 4: we all do. If we get a stage in a

1057
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 4: microphone wherever we're from.

1058
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you played all three sports.

1059
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 3: He was nice and all of them.

1060
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 4: Really really nice and not trashing anything nothing.

1061
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 3: So you hoop baseball and football.

1062
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and uh starter all three really good in baseball,

1063
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 4: which Matt Madden and I played baseball together, really good

1064
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 4: in baseball.

1065
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 5: That nigga was crazy baseball.

1066
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 4: I was really good in baseball, Pops thinks that was

1067
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 4: my best sport obviously.

1068
00:49:59,400 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: Stack.

1069
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 4: I was a really good football player, running back, running

1070
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 4: back in the dB corner. You know, high school you

1071
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 4: go both ways, but as you know, collegees end up

1072
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 4: recruiting dbs because it's so rare to find good dbs.

1073
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then in.

1074
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 4: Basketball, I was a really solid player play point guard obviously,

1075
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 4: and really solid and still get down with it, which

1076
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 4: is why Chris Matthews with me lethal shooter. I'm gonna

1077
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 4: get out there with you at Maddick. We ain't never

1078
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 4: done that. But how you ain't invited me? You one

1079
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 4: of the great basketball players the NBA. You ain't never

1080
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 4: invited me to play ball.

1081
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 3: You never played in the Luttle game.

1082
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,959
Speaker 5: And yeah, I played in the lot game weekend. Yeah

1083
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 5: played and I just played together. We destroyed that. We

1084
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 5: were crazy Ludas still do his lot weekend.

1085
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 3: You still doing okay, he still do it?

1086
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, shout out, I got it, starting to walk of fame.

1087
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, he got big. That was a big yeah. Man.

1088
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: You end up going to Georgia and cross Paths with

1089
00:50:56,480 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: a lot of talent, from Champ Bailey to Terrell, David Heines,

1090
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: Ward Kirby, Smart with Herby. What was that experience?

1091
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 3: Like?

1092
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 4: It was interesting while being in it because you didn't know,

1093
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 4: as you know, Matt, you you didn't know, especially with football,

1094
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 4: you might know the fate of some of these cats,

1095
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 4: but you didn't.

1096
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 2: Really know, really didn't know.

1097
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's different for y'all because you know when you're

1098
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 4: in a college campus. Matt's at UCLA, guys, he's did

1099
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 4: you grow well in school?

1100
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 5: Were you six six?

1101
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: Then?

1102
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 3: No?

1103
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: I was already okay, all right.

1104
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: He was already familiar with the campus too. Before he

1105
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: got there, he had been a thought.

1106
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 5: Did you just take a drink? Because of that, now.

1107
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: I'm confused on what he was saying. I didn't know

1108
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: what the fu he's talking about.

1109
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: You wasn't getting yeah, CLA campus there.

1110
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, I've always kind of did my

1111
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: thing but.

1112
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 3: He's going to hooping and all that before you went

1113
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 3: to school, right.

1114
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 5: He thought you were saying. There was a moment where

1115
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 5: I remember, this was a crazy moment.

1116
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 4: I remember when Hans Ward who was playing wing back,

1117
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 4: a little bit quarterback, a.

1118
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 5: Little bit to wide receiver.

1119
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 4: I remember when Haines was being set because he was

1120
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 4: so gifted that they couldn't figure out where to play him.

1121
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 4: And so I think when I referenced basketball and then Stack,

1122
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 4: you were going through a different journey than Matt.

1123
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 5: But you was a baller nonetheless.

1124
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 4: From y'all the freaking Monsy Bogues right growing up in

1125
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 4: the Baltimore area he grew up in. Once you get

1126
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 4: on a college campus as a basketball player, y'all really

1127
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 4: do stick with each other. It ain't but like you know,

1128
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 4: eleven players on the team or whatnot. The football players

1129
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 4: are so bountiful in number that sometimes you look back

1130
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 4: and you go, damn, did.

1131
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 5: I know that one was going to end up? It

1132
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 5: was so many cats.

1133
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you just racking each other every single day

1134
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 4: that there's not necessarily standout moments in practice, if that

1135
00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 4: makes sense.

1136
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 5: But sometime time during the Saturday games.

1137
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 4: You were like, oh, shit when they moved Robert Edwards

1138
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 4: from dB excuse me, and put him at running back.

1139
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 5: The year that Terrell left.

1140
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 4: Terrell had transferred in as y'all know, from Long Beach State,

1141
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 4: they lost their program. He transfers to Georgia and really

1142
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 4: didn't get enough burn at Georgia. But as y'all also know,

1143
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 4: John Elway has no rings without Terrell Davis, and then

1144
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 4: Terrell's in the Hall of Fame.

1145
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 5: Terrell was the same way as he is now then

1146
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 5: to me.

1147
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 4: As was Champ, as was Travis Stroud, Robert Edwards, Randall, Godfrey, Kirby,

1148
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 4: not as much Kirby. In terms of this thing. I'm

1149
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 4: gonna say they were real big on yo. If the

1150
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 4: football don't work out for u, O, you got some

1151
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,959
Speaker 4: shit with this poetry stuff, with this art stuff. Because

1152
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 4: I was minoring in theater and already doing stage plays.

1153
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 4: There was one player in that group outside of Robert.

1154
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 4: Once Robert went to running back, and I knew Robert

1155
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 4: was gonna get a real shot in the league because

1156
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 4: he took off as a running back after leaving us

1157
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 4: in the defensive backfield, Corey Johnson was free safety. Kirby

1158
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 4: backed him up Champ ORLANDI Sims, myself, Buster, Douglas, Ron Bailey,

1159
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 4: Champs older brother, Kirby Smart, I said, Kirby, all of

1160
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 4: us are defensive backs. When Champ came in and I

1161
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 4: had a year with him, there was the moment where

1162
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: you went, oh, he's out here. So there was that

1163
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 4: moment where that was obvious, and you know occasionally you

1164
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 4: get oh, like he's out here. Did I know he'd

1165
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 4: become arguably the top three defensive back of cover corner

1166
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 4: of all time?

1167
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 3: Nah?

1168
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 5: And right three? I mean yeah, right, cover corner definitely

1169
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 5: up there, top five, top five cover corner.

1170
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 4: So so Dionavs check Dale Green Green Green. I would

1171
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 4: say no, but Charles a strong safety free corner, Okay,

1172
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 4: I would give Champ over him at I would. I

1173
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 4: would go corner. Definitely cover corner. You gotta put Champ

1174
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 4: before you put Dale Green up there, and then you

1175
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 4: put and then you Rod Woodson is one of the

1176
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 4: greatest all around defensive backs, right, Ronnie a lot stupid

1177
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 4: at free safety, Steve at Water two, But cover corner,

1178
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 4: I guess the right right to the top four, Yeah,

1179
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 4: you know, sure, So there was It was an amazing

1180
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 4: time for me. Matt being in the SEC because we

1181
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 4: were building it. I look at it now and I'm like,

1182
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 4: we're not building it in the in the way that

1183
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 4: Herschel and Bo Jackson were building it. But I'm realizing

1184
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 4: now we were building it in the way that now

1185
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 4: it's premiered in the playoff system when there wasn't a

1186
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 4: playoff system, meaning that every year parentally the SEC ends,

1187
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 4: so that we were building that.

1188
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 5: For a minute now has been that.

1189
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 2: How did being an athlete prepare you to be an actor?

1190
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 4: I think, first and foremost the number of people on

1191
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 4: a on a movie set working with the team. Yeah,

1192
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 4: because again specific to the sport, the football team has

1193
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 4: so many people in the locker room, man on the sideline,

1194
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 4: and I think the first level of preparation, maybe that's

1195
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 4: the last. Maybe that's the last step of preparation because

1196
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 4: they got to make it to a movie set, right.

1197
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 4: But in terms of getting through auditions and all of that,

1198
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 4: it's just the rejection.

1199
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 5: I feel like every single day your coach is rejecting

1200
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 5: you at some point, is am I wrong?

1201
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 4: So I just feel like the audition process just didn't

1202
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 4: affect me negatively. You and Stack started out this conversation

1203
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 4: with saying y'all try to bring just positivity to the

1204
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 4: world of conversation. I hate calling them interviews, this conversation

1205
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 4: pull up a chair and have a conversation, and y'all

1206
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 4: having to be.

1207
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 5: Really successful at it. But I think a lot of

1208
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 5: that we learned as athletes.

1209
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 4: I know it was me individually, but when you asked that,

1210
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 4: you're asking all of us.

1211
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 5: I think the three of us just really deal well

1212
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 5: with what is rejection.

1213
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,879
Speaker 4: Rejections just that day's telling you no, but the next

1214
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 4: day you're gonna tell me yes. And I'm gonna do

1215
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 4: everything i'm my power to get you to tell me yes.

1216
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 4: So I think I don't know how an athlete doesn't

1217
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 4: carry every day that they wake up. I don't know

1218
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 4: how they don't carry that athletic thing that they have

1219
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 4: right every day.

1220
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 5: Y' all athletes right, whether the room whom you're meeting

1221
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 5: with understands it or not.

1222
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 4: So forget acting. I think it prepped me for life,

1223
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 4: bro like being an athlete is. I'm so thankful God

1224
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 4: gave me athletic gift because what if it wasn't there.

1225
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 4: I don't know if there's better training than that of

1226
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 4: an athlete, which is why so many jobs Fortune five

1227
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 4: hundred companies included go Yes, come hither.

1228
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: Yes, give you a chance athlete. I was brought up

1229
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: with biracial parents, my mom being Italian, my dad being black,

1230
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 2: and I remember I remember being young on the Italian side,

1231
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: my family didn't accept my mom, my dad, or even

1232
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 2: us as children until I was maybe seven or eight.

1233
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: And then then it became a great relation with her

1234
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 2: side of the family. But early on there was an

1235
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: acceptance with your marriage. You know, we read that your

1236
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 2: wife's side disowned her for dating outside of her race.

1237
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 2: What did that mean to you?

1238
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 4: Well, initially, you know it has to bother you because

1239
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 4: you care so much about you know, this person, So

1240
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:12,120
Speaker 4: you feel like that's a personal attack attack. You feel

1241
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 4: like it's a And again there were times that Jay

1242
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 4: would have to remind me, like this is you know,

1243
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 4: I gotta get let me, let me experience the heat

1244
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 4: not only for you, but let me also experience the

1245
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 4: pain before you jump in front of the train and

1246
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 4: go I got hit because it's you know, the direct

1247
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 4: hit is not to me. But I don't know what

1248
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 4: man has a pair between his legs and isn't wanting

1249
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 4: to get in front of that, right that that locomotion

1250
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 4: running over your your significant other you care.

1251
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 5: So much about. And so.

1252
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was a real interesting reminder that

1253
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 4: sometimes the apple doesn't necessarily fall, you know, that that

1254
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 4: close to the tree. And uh and that in whatever

1255
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 4: year that was, twenty years ago I met her. That

1256
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 4: damn as much as things have changed so much, as

1257
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 4: not changed so much. And you always think that kids

1258
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 4: would would would do it, that braven Nova being Matt

1259
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 4: Barnes would make grandparents go fuck it, look at these

1260
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 4: beautiful grandkids.

1261
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 5: And her mother eventually did.

1262
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 4: But uh, but Pops outroed without without ever having a

1263
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 4: part of that, and uh, you know he I guess

1264
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 4: god is who has nationality is? You can't tell? I know, right,

1265
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 4: She's like a month, You're like, what is Jay?

1266
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 3: Jay?

1267
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 4: When doing her family history, finally learned that there's a

1268
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 4: whole bit she's German, but there's all this Turkish which

1269
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 4: the Turkish is at Yakut, which is the Aboriginals of Turkey,

1270
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 4: and there Indians from Turkey. So for years people didn't know,

1271
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,439
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of a lot of people didn't

1272
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 4: really know what Jay was.

1273
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:49,479
Speaker 5: When I met her, I couldn't tell.

1274
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. It didn't matter.

1275
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 4: But everywhere we go, you know, it's always been a

1276
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 4: history of going to a country that if we're in

1277
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 4: Matt's native uh Italy, which is obviously part of matsan

1278
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 4: ancestral line. If we're in Italy, Stack people go Italian.

1279
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 4: If we're in Israel, they start speaking.

1280
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 5: Arabic to her.

1281
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 4: If we're in you know, whatever that particular language is,

1282
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 4: or a particular country that we're in, they tend to

1283
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 4: think that she is that.

1284
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 5: So I don't you know, I don't know. Somebody said

1285
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 5: one day she just looked like a character from the Bible.

1286
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 5: Just one of the things.

1287
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: My wife is to telling her mama talk about that

1288
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: same ship. Her mom say that her whole family disowned

1289
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: her like for for life because she got her husband.

1290
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: My wife's dad is from DC, a real black man,

1291
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: and she said once she's had a babey him like

1292
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: they like to this day. My wife beople asking like, Mom,

1293
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: I want to meet some of my family. You have

1294
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: any family, and it is I don't know nobody. Yeah,

1295
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: she don't know nobody.

1296
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 4: But that's the thing. Stack is such a it's it's

1297
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 4: an instinct, you know. I know it's an instinct.

1298
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 5: When you say real black man, it's like, butta you

1299
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 5: also know, like Matt's a nigga.

1300
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, no question.

1301
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 4: So what I'm saying is no, I know, you know.

1302
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is what also makes it hard.

1303
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 4: And I imagine that you know, it's different for Matt.

1304
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 4: I've talked to Halle Berry about this, right, bi racial

1305
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 4: and in that era, bro really different and Matt's era

1306
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,479
Speaker 4: really different than it is for Novan Brave.

1307
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 5: But you can't have Omari in the house and not

1308
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 5: come out.

1309
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: With some tendency.

1310
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 3: You can't. I don't know how to. I can't. It's

1311
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 3: this nigga. I say nigga, and he still got residue

1312
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 3: trying to get out of him.

1313
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 5: And I say niggas their hardest.

1314
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 4: They will try their hardest to uh, you know, to.

1315
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 5: Unculture. You can't.

1316
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 4: And there's so many people that that have had misnomers

1317
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 4: or you know, it's a misnomer to think like, oh,

1318
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 4: if you interracially marry, you just stopped being Like no,

1319
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 4: you don't stop being who you are who you are.

1320
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 5: The person just has to adjust to that.

1321
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 4: And you know, we also know that in our bowl

1322
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 4: of whatever called all black people, there's a motherfuckers in

1323
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 4: there that you wouldn't necessarily want to rock with.

1324
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 3: So all skin folks ain't kim folk. All skin soak

1325
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 3: aint caim fold.

1326
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

1327
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 4: So it's that's a that's a yeah, Maddie, I've always

1328
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 4: felt I mean, maybe Stephen and I both failed from you.

1329
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 5: A lot of people do a lot of a lot

1330
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 5: of a lot.

1331
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 4: Of the pain I see in Steven's eyes, or the

1332
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 4: pain that are are is the pain.

1333
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 5: I should say that.

1334
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 4: It's very specific to what I know about stax life,

1335
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 4: and I know a lot about his journey. I don't

1336
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 4: know everything, but I know a lot. And I see

1337
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 4: the chip on your shoulder, and it's a good chip.

1338
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 5: It's good. Jason Kidd does the same thing. Same ship.

1339
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 5: It's just good.

1340
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 4: It's like it's it's what it is, same ship.

1341
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 5: Is that all that? All that Oakland ship that I'm

1342
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 5: Atlanta's Oakland?

1343
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah?

1344
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 5: There at very.

1345
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: Very similar, bro very similar.

1346
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 2: Now you're talking raised language.

1347
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 3: Here we go, right oak the boy right there?

1348
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 5: It's real.

1349
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 4: You know, even if Phoene was she really wanted Tupac

1350
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 4: and Atlanta. It's it's a real there's a very Boots rally.

1351
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 4: And I got along really well man, if that makes

1352
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 4: sense to you. When I did Sorry to Bother you,

1353
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 4: that Oakland nigga and this the Cat nigga, we was very.

1354
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 5: Tight Miss Boots.

1355
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 2: Before we get out of here and work with him again,

1356
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: before we get out of your fatherhood?

1357
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 5: Everything is that what you guys?

1358
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? Everything? What does it mean? What does it talk

1359
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 3: to you? But what does it mean?

1360
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:35,919
Speaker 2: First?

1361
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 5: And form is what It's definitely taught me that they

1362
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 5: know more than us.

1363
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 3: What's the ages nine.

1364
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 4: And no Bravest nine and Nova will be twelve, no twenty. First,

1365
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 4: the irony is.

1366
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 5: The level of patience.

1367
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 4: Obviously that that we have to have and uh, and

1368
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 4: it's taught me man to you know, Maddie, when I

1369
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 4: was doing the freaking power Ship, I'd wake up and like,

1370
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 4: I get off. Maybe, especially those first two years we

1371
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 4: were trying to you know, establish the show and.

1372
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 5: I get off.

1373
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 4: And I love that they really pushed it towards Joseph

1374
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 4: season two right he was. They were able to develop

1375
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 4: Tommy Moore in season two of those first that first year,

1376
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 4: especially oh bro, So if I got off two am.

1377
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 4: You know, I'd be up and y'all know I'm already

1378
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 4: naturally rasped me. But then I'd have no voice the

1379
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 4: next day, and then I'd be holding nov and Brave

1380
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 4: the Brave wasn't born yet, holding over and Jay would be.

1381
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 5: Like, Man, you gotta go to this. I said no.

1382
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 5: So what it's taught me Mad is.

1383
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 4: Like, oh if I don't hold him, I knew the

1384
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 4: show was gonna be successful.

1385
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 5: This show ain't going nowhere.

1386
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 4: So the show's gonna take some years from my relationship

1387
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 4: with her, and if not my relationship in terms of

1388
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 4: intrinsic bond between she and I, then at least my

1389
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 4: relationship in terms of time allotted for us to hang.

1390
01:04:58,320 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 5: It's gonna take it, Matt.

1391
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 4: So for me, it has definitely taught me that my

1392
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 4: instincts couldn't have been taught, which is get all the

1393
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 4: time you can get while getting it.

1394
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 5: But now, Bro, I have to be so patient with this,

1395
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 5: especially with the girl.

1396
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 4: Man, you got three boys four, Yeah, you have another son, stack,

1397
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 4: you got a daughter, right, so you know how it goes.

1398
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 5: You know how it goes with the daughters.

1399
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 4: Yes, the level of because you got nephews stack the

1400
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,919
Speaker 4: level of maturity MB for the.

1401
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 2: Girls, I gotta I got a thirteen year old stepdaughter.

1402
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 2: She's sitting in the room all day, talking shit to

1403
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 2: both of us and listening to music and wearing clothes.

1404
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 2: We comeing out the room like, what the fuck are

1405
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 2: you wearing? Like it's it's there.

1406
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 4: And then their brain, their brain is so developed that

1407
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 4: and Novah's been fine with the clothing, she's not. But again,

1408
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 4: you're thirteen. Mine's not even twelve yet there's there's the uh,

1409
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,919
Speaker 4: where's my I want to I'm miss baby. It went

1410
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 4: fast with Novah, it went brave. Still Brave was on.

1411
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 4: They took me to UH to dinner to celebrate the

1412
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 4: Grammy nomination and uh and brave is still not. Yeah

1413
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 4: nine ballin Ballin' ballin great crazy basketball player, as is

1414
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 4: Jamal's son Heart my nephew Hart.

1415
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 5: They both can ball out, but.

1416
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 4: Nova volleyball transition out of baseball not softball. Mattrees baseball player,

1417
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 4: rock and rolling.

1418
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 5: Very gifted.

1419
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 4: Young lady played in her first played her first character

1420
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 4: played Raffiki and Lion King last year.

1421
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 5: Really, we've got a lot of gifts.

1422
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 3: Thank you for that.

1423
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 5: Thank you for that and.

1424
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 4: Brave Bill lay goals in five seconds, mad if he

1425
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 4: can't finish it in ten seconds, Like, they're very very

1426
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 4: gifted kids, but his to your point, there is still

1427
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 4: a child there.

1428
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 5: I'm like, I got some years.

1429
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 4: Well, nova, bro, I'm like, I hope she don't be

1430
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 4: eighteen tomorrow. So it's taught me patience. It's definitely taught

1431
01:06:53,960 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 4: me to really value their their their their feelings because

1432
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 4: as Maddie, they get to have feelings in ways that

1433
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 4: we didn't get to have feelings.

1434
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 2: And privileges that we couldn't talk and I didn't.

1435
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 3: We can't.

1436
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 4: We were They would tell you, actually don't speak unless

1437
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 4: spoken to, and it was we could express ourselves.

1438
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 5: We had to fun. I grew up having fun with them.

1439
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 2: Feelings my uncles.

1440
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 4: And nots were incredible for me and my cousins. But

1441
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 4: we definitely were not allowed and by the way, we

1442
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 4: were outside all day. We weren't allowed that, but we

1443
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 4: could be outside all day all day. Man, the kids

1444
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 4: can't go down the street to thee.

1445
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 3: They can't go.

1446
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 2: It sucks what happened. I think the world changed. There's

1447
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: a lot of weirdos, too many weirdos out there.

1448
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 5: Social media flush brought that.

1449
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 2: Out anywhere else, and then video game trafficking.

1450
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 3: They picking up kids and Yankee kids up all kind

1451
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 3: of shit and they safe.

1452
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 2: I missed that. I didn't mean to cut you out,

1453
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 2: but I just missed because I think about all the

1454
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 2: life you learned from that, just being outside, from that,

1455
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 2: as soon as we can get outside until the lights,

1456
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 2: was outside, drinking hose water, playing in the creek, playing

1457
01:07:59,040 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 2: in the woods, going.

1458
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 5: Back, fight fight.

1459
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: You learned everything by being outside and then become close

1460
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: to the dude. You You learned everything how to beat

1461
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: that for somebody. You know, all you learned, all that.

1462
01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 3: Shit is gone.

1463
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 2: It's terrible.

1464
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 4: So when you asked that, it's interesting to ask because

1465
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 4: I could imagine you asking that. If you and Stack

1466
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 4: had to show twelve years it's a different you know,

1467
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,839
Speaker 4: twenty years ago. For sure, it's a very different reality.

1468
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 4: And I'm in my mind thinking, wow, I remember moments

1469
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 4: where at least these kids are athletics, so they're not

1470
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 4: playing the video games all day.

1471
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:38,640
Speaker 5: But I remember moments.

1472
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:44,200
Speaker 4: Where I'm sitting and listening to a conversation between adults,

1473
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 4: even if I'm not involved in the conversation between adults.

1474
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 4: Kids now get to go what.

1475
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 2: Say what interrupting and talking about we're talking. It's different dad,

1476
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 2: to be parents now right now, to be parents. My

1477
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 2: dad used to think playing video games will fuck up

1478
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 2: the color on the TV. Did he think that a

1479
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:02,560
Speaker 2: nick was crazy?

1480
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 3: He thought he.

1481
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 2: Would fuck the color up if we put the video

1482
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 2: game on the TV while he is at work. What

1483
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 2: he's saying, fucking my color up? Now you used to

1484
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 2: think to fuck the color. I don't know. I mean,

1485
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 2: he was off a lot of different drugs. So, but

1486
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: that was the one thing he thought was putting the

1487
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 2: video game on the TV. Fuck the color up.

1488
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 1: They used to tell us because the controls only went

1489
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: so far oh from the court, So they to tell us,

1490
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: did you sit there close to the TV, You're gonna get blind?

1491
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1492
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 3: Yeah at that point, you know what I'm saying. So

1493
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 3: they didn't play the game.

1494
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 2: I can't see where the ship so that might have

1495
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 2: been true.

1496
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the teeth, but the freaking the phones.

1497
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: Now, the kid's gonna be You said your daughter played

1498
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: Lion King. She did you play with in the movie or.

1499
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 3: The play the Broadway? No?

1500
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 5: No, no, playing school?

1501
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so okay, after because my godson is he

1502
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 1: in it? He played two years he played Simba and

1503
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: Uh Broadway in New York and The Lion King and

1504
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: The Original, The Best, The Original, and then he just

1505
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: got through doing Michael Jackie played Marlon and Michael Jackson Jackson.

1506
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: Now he's in the movie playing Marlon and Michael movie

1507
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,839
Speaker 1: that's been that's getting shot. That your nephew, my godson.

1508
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:07,839
Speaker 1: Hats off, bro, Yeah, shout out jack He's he's unbelievable kid, brolable.

1509
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:09,879
Speaker 5: That's super the hewed.

1510
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: Is he that's he's fourteen now and he made a

1511
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: song called black boy Joy.

1512
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 3: Y'all go check it out.

1513
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 5: He's just rocket.

1514
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 3: It's just good for the youth to hear.

1515
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 5: Spotify could go and get it.

1516
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, black boy Joy. He's super positive, good kid. Shout

1517
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: out to his mom, Shout out to his dad. Snap

1518
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: hunted like they're doing a great Where is he lim Memphis?

1519
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: Listen Memphis? So yeah, from Dayna.

1520
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: Well Mark, it's been a it's been an in depth,

1521
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 2: beautiful long overdue too.

1522
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 3: Bro. We can do.

1523
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 2: We sit here talk all night before we get out

1524
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 2: of here, and we got some quick hitters for you.

1525
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 2: So first thing to come to mind. Let us know

1526
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 2: five dinner guests U plus five did or alive? Who's

1527
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 2: at your table?

1528
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 3: I love this ship. That's a good question. I want.

1529
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:47,719
Speaker 5: It's a great question.

1530
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 4: This thing I want to Muhammad Ali is back there.

1531
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 4: I get to hang with him before he passed about

1532
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 4: two years. Shout out to may Mae Ali and his

1533
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 4: doorter for hooking that up. And and uh, Malcolm X

1534
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 4: is there for sure. Uh you know who I've always loved.

1535
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 4: You're gonna You're gonna trip on this. I've always wanted

1536
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 4: to just pick his brain. Davante from Joessy Beautiful mind,

1537
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 4: I just beautiful mind.

1538
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 2: Do you hear the crazy? But then you hear how

1539
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 2: talented and how smart he was?

1540
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a brains man all that.

1541
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 3: That's the that's the first first time.

1542
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, special And and the and the brother. I

1543
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 4: check on him a lot, y'all know the brother. Now

1544
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 4: he's playing college ball with the one arm.

1545
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 3: We coached. I coached him in the opposite.

1546
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 5: So I've been talking to him.

1547
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 4: But I would love for a manual to not only

1548
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 4: be at that table, but to be able to because

1549
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:54,599
Speaker 4: because his tears would start when when when I put

1550
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 4: him on the spot by telling him how many of

1551
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 4: those greats at the table admire that he can do

1552
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 4: something that none.

1553
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 3: Of us can do. Most won't even have, most don't

1554
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 3: have the confidence to do with two arms. Crazy, right,

1555
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 3: Think about that.

1556
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: You got people that two arms that don't believe in

1557
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 1: the basketball skills he has.

1558
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 3: One and confidences through the roof. I love it. I

1559
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 3: love it. Bro and a good kid.

1560
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 5: I love talking to him.

1561
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 4: And and then I would say, I got Lastie, last

1562
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 4: Sie making a special seat.

1563
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 5: I never got to.

1564
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 4: I met Prince a lot so but I never got to.

1565
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 5: I never.

1566
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 4: It's so tough, Matt, because who I want to say,

1567
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 4: because I never got to meet this gentleman, and that

1568
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 4: being Michael Jackson. But but I want to say Quincy.

1569
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 4: I want to say Quincy. I never I met Quincy.

1570
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 4: Very quicken and passing. But I'm so musical. There's got

1571
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 4: to be somebody that's a musical giant there that can

1572
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 4: go back and forth between Davante and I think that's

1573
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 4: that's interesting like that.

1574
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 2: It's a nice table. It's interesting conversations. Some ship, right, yeah,

1575
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 2: some real ship.

1576
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 4: What was your mount was Davis to Broda would be

1577
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 4: Miles would be killing.

1578
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 3: Your mount Mount Rushmore. Of actors.

1579
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 5: Only get four slots or.

1580
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 3: For this, nigga said five.

1581
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 5: I'm okay.

1582
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,680
Speaker 3: He was trying to have been a new mountain. Okay,

1583
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 3: I ain't know.

1584
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 2: Dead over there tripping.

1585
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 4: Mount Rushmore. That's amazing. The one who made me want

1586
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 4: to become an actor. I saw him in a stack,

1587
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 4: still laughing at you. Nigga, usually come sit with me.

1588
01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: Come I have that in there comes sit.

1589
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 5: I feel they told me before you came in. You

1590
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 5: know what your name precedes. But God bless you though,

1591
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 5: oh the fact that you're here. God bless you Mount Rushmore.

1592
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 4: So the actor Stack who maybe one act I saw

1593
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 4: Raging Bull and I was blown so Robert Dinner on

1594
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 4: first almost.

1595
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 3: I was blown away.

1596
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 4: Denzel Uh, Meryl Street. God, I got one slot left.

1597
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 4: My honorable mentions would absolutely be Marlon Brandon and Steve McQueen.

1598
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 4: But and I really love Angela Bassett. But but I'm

1599
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 4: going to say rest in peace. Having just passed the

1600
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 4: range of James Earl Jones was crazy. I think about

1601
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 4: from Darth Vader two to to to Bingo Long traveling.

1602
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 5: To Conan too, to think it's coming to.

1603
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 4: To even Sandlot, guys Sandlot like like James Earl. Jones's

1604
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 4: range was just some Claudine right, but he played in

1605
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 4: Claudaine and long jefviy. I just think James was as

1606
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 4: special as they come, great White Hope, right, James O. Jones,

1607
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 4: So that that would be Those four were pretty magnificent.

1608
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 5: One album on repeat, damn it, only one? Only one,

1609
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 5: y'all truly all all to smoke. This is unbelievable. One album.

1610
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: I want to do two and you can do? You

1611
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 2: mar you do you want give me two?

1612
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you two.

1613
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 4: Ship on repeat, on repeat, I'm gonna I'm gonna say

1614
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson's off the Wall, Jones. I'm gonna say Michael

1615
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 4: Jackson off the Wall, and then I'm gonna sit.

1616
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 5: I just love this dude's voice. It's so amazing. What's

1617
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 5: the album? What's the album? Guys?

1618
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 4: Chris Stapleton's album, and it might be where I'm at

1619
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 4: these days?

1620
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 5: What's this album called? Know? The New One, the brand

1621
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:18,799
Speaker 5: New One? Higher?

1622
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 4: Chris Stapleton's Higher, because what I wanted to give you,

1623
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 4: Matt was where I'm presently at. So Chris Stapleton is

1624
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 4: on repeat and we in textas, so fuck it. Chris

1625
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 4: Stapleton's album is on heavy repeat. That albums called Higher,

1626
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:34,640
Speaker 4: and I think I've always kind of gone back to

1627
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson's Off the Wall and it just never gets old.

1628
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 5: I freaking love that damn Mary J. Blige album.

1629
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 1: No, My Life, My Life, that's you got to start there.

1630
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 4: That joint was k C shout out to marriage Pleasure

1631
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 4: riding that damn motorcycle stand riding that bike. I love that, Matt,

1632
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 4: that gave that sound right away. At this point, Jay

1633
01:16:58,160 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 4: and the kids have relegated me to riding in the

1634
01:16:59,880 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 4: neghborhood and you're.

1635
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 3: Part of the club.

1636
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 5: No, I was at one point.

1637
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was definitely me and Uh, Malcolm, Jamal Warner

1638
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 4: and uh and f Gary Gray will ride with us

1639
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 4: as well, Malcolm F Gary Grade. When I was in Cali,

1640
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 4: Matt and I was really riding Angela's crest.

1641
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 5: I was really too tempary.

1642
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 2: I was going at it too dangerous.

1643
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 5: It's too crazy.

1644
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 4: Because you know when I started stacking, wasn't there's no

1645
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 4: cell phones when I started riding the motorcycle. Now it's crazy.

1646
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 4: It's not the cyclist, right, The motorcyclists are usually pretty.

1647
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:29,799
Speaker 2: People on the phones on their cars.

1648
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 5: But it is a guilty pleasure.

1649
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 3: Bro.

1650
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 5: It is in sweets. I still really I always like

1651
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 5: my cookies, and.

1652
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like my get away from that. You the same?

1653
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,759
Speaker 5: What that caka pie for you? I'm a I'm a cookie.

1654
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 3: I make cookies. I baked cook You never give me

1655
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:54,320
Speaker 3: no cookies fire none. You lean in to say that

1656
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 3: what you mean.

1657
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 2: He talking about that? You peels bury out the the.

1658
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 5: Thing the butter that was look was that he was

1659
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 5: pissing and came off the bro.

1660
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 3: I got him oat mill pecan. Though I know what

1661
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 3: I do.

1662
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 5: I'm only old.

1663
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 4: I'm no other cooks. I'm an oatmeal guy, oat mill pecan,

1664
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 4: no rais. I don't do raised he the pecan.

1665
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 3: Would you hooked me up? Bro?

1666
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 1: I got you, Bro, I was I was holding. Somebody

1667
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,759
Speaker 1: asked because my MoMA gonna.

1668
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 5: Make some ship wrong stack for real.

1669
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 3: I just made a gumbo a couple of days ago.

1670
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 3: I'm like that in the kitchen.

1671
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 5: You are like that.

1672
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 3: I'm Judy's son, Judy.

1673
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 2: Judy's birthday this weekend, not even jud Judy Judy at

1674
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 2: happy birthday coming up on my birthday.

1675
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 3: The Texas birthday is on the twenty of this month.

1676
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 4: Birthday that's the day before nov the day before my daughter. Yeah,

1677
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 4: hay birthday all you birthday, Judy?

1678
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 5: Is your is your Monday?

1679
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 2: Is that still scorpio that the cunning in. Yeah, my

1680
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,719
Speaker 2: twin the twins are the six they just turned sixteen.

1681
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 5: That was about to say, they really, I don't like it.

1682
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 3: I don't like it.

1683
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 2: That's all today about six two sixty three girl friends

1684
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: condoms like they just turned sixteen.

1685
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 5: Which one of the most like pop.

1686
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 2: They both have different sizes of me. One's the loving

1687
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 2: side of me and one's the crazy side of me.

1688
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 2: But they both got sense.

1689
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 5: But they're very close.

1690
01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 4: They feel they've been there before Broy one hundred years age.

1691
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:19,799
Speaker 3: I met him when they was little.

1692
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 5: The tough kids.

1693
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to make them tough to me because,

1694
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 2: like we were talking about, like they don't get the

1695
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 2: bumps and bruises. So I used to let them fuck

1696
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 2: each other up. But as soon as one would hurt

1697
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:32,719
Speaker 2: the other one that they was like if one cry,

1698
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 2: the other would cry, stop and help.

1699
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:34,879
Speaker 3: It was.

1700
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 2: It was such a crazy bomb. But like I said,

1701
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 2: they didn't get that outdoor experience. So I had to

1702
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 2: toughen them up behind the gates.

1703
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you go over there, what's up? You

1704
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 3: up step what? This has been going on for a

1705
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 3: while now, you know what I'm saying.

1706
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 1: So that, but that's why they're so ahead of the

1707
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 1: game because he's been raising them like men for so long.

1708
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 4: So yeah, I try to not talk to Braven over

1709
01:19:58,800 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 4: like kids ever.

1710
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, like not the baby talk.

1711
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, childhood crush will take you back. Oh yeah, you

1712
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 2: got a childhood crush.

1713
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 5: Easy for me. And I ended up working with him.

1714
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 5: I bet y'all. Ain't never had nobody on that can

1715
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 5: say they ended up working with him.

1716
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody I had a child crush with. It turned

1717
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 1: out to be shipped ship damn sore. Ain't saying nothing.

1718
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 5: The motherfuckers my childhood crush.

1719
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 4: I had to The first one was was burning that

1720
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 4: standards Thelma from Good Time, and then uh, and then

1721
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 4: of course when when Janet was Charlotte ironically planning a

1722
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 4: character where I wasn't trying to get in get nothing

1723
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 4: from her because the character was gay, but you know,

1724
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 4: and Tyler Perrys for Color.

1725
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 2: That's what it was. I was trying to think, where.

1726
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,799
Speaker 3: You know if you need, you can cast me. Baby.

1727
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: You've been my crush. It ain't been no secret a

1728
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 1: crazy time. Then I see it for the first time.

1729
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: I'm with my wife. We're wearing a whole nother curntry.

1730
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: Uh Croatia she walked. I'm like, how you just come

1731
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: to Croatia.

1732
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 3: I ain't seen nothing. This is my question. Wait wait

1733
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 3: who Regina Hall?

1734
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: Oh yeah Regina, And she just walks in we're creating

1735
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: my time and say you bet not turn around.

1736
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm just seeing it. I just want to

1737
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 3: see if Matt was talking to her, because I know

1738
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:20,480
Speaker 3: Matt Nor.

1739
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 1: And Matt was he did she didn't go speak to

1740
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,960
Speaker 1: mass so I got off Regina. She walked, I lost

1741
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 1: my jaw dropped.

1742
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 2: Hers and yeah, she gonna walk right back like that

1743
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,600
Speaker 2: in Croatia all plays.

1744
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah man, yeah.

1745
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 2: The hall past to speak.

1746
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 4: We gonna do a movie called a movie called Also,

1747
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 4: We're gonna do a movie.

1748
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 5: I think Jane Kennedy also really like. I like Jane

1749
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 5: Kennedy Young. I like that Apolonia, right.

1750
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:50,720
Speaker 3: Vanity, Apolonia?

1751
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 5: What's that?

1752
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 3: Wasn't nothing? That's our girl from last Dragon?

1753
01:21:54,560 --> 01:22:05,640
Speaker 1: Yes, huh many clown crazy.

1754
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 2: Beautiful and a baloney. Both of them was tough.

1755
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:08,759
Speaker 5: It was crazy.

1756
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris had oh man, didn't he remember lamar Odom

1757
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 2: told a story about Prince one time that he did

1758
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 2: he went to the house and he did some kind

1759
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,600
Speaker 2: of performance and and La Mar said he almost his

1760
01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 2: wrist almost went limp just looking at Prince. I said, oh, ship,

1761
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 2: that's too much information.

1762
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 3: But here you way too man.

1763
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't in those words. But go ahead, yeah,

1764
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 2: finish it off. Yeah, I feel you threw me off

1765
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 2: question PM right, Yeah, finish them off.

1766
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 5: If you could see.

1767
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 1: One guest on our show, because we know you're a

1768
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 1: big support of our show, who would it be?

1769
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 3: But you have to help us get your answer on

1770
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 3: the show.

1771
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 5: Done deal, killed deal.

1772
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 6: I love this ship, no say, because only y'all could

1773
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 6: really funk with him.

1774
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 4: Donald Trump second persons said that I think we should bro.

1775
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 3: We might. I might need because I got a lot

1776
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 3: of ship going on. I might need some cases. I

1777
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 3: got Mama's on the line like that. I might need, bro. Man,

1778
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 3: I ain't y'all.

1779
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,679
Speaker 2: It would be very interest conversation.

1780
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be finally a very he wouldn't be

1781
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 4: able to really duck and dodge.

1782
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 5: He wouldn't be able to do that. And that's the

1783
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 5: come with it I got.

1784
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 2: You know, I love having said that recently, Skip Bayless,

1785
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, I gotta have a conversation, have y'all, have

1786
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 2: y'all had President Obama. He's on the way, he's coming here.

1787
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 5: He's y'all have fun with him. Well, oh, man, basketball Cat.

1788
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,960
Speaker 2: We appreciate you, man, not just for your time today,

1789
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 2: but just what you've done for the world. It's been

1790
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: a blessing, man, and we're happy to hear that you're

1791
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 2: in a good space and your family's good and you're

1792
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 2: going to continue for another twenty years at least. At

1793
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 2: least bro, blessing us with your presence. Man, So appreciate

1794
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 2: your time.

1795
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 3: Excited to see Yeah, thank you guys.

1796
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: In that ghost form somewhere else, Yeah, somewhere said I'm

1797
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 1: gonna be the hit man in the back, chilling with

1798
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: my suit on.

1799
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,080
Speaker 3: Yes, fucking balls up.

1800
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Gilly, Gilly might be competing with you trying

1801
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 5: to be there.

1802
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 3: That's my boy. We can do it together and no

1803
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 3: competition for all of us, Bro, Just keep it peat.

1804
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 2: We got some T shirts, but we definitely want to

1805
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 2: give you our first hard copy. Yeah, first hard cop

1806
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 2: was not in this joint. We appreciate you, man, Thank you.

1807
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 3: Second man, of course, yeah, this is what me.

1808
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 2: Second, the second you'll be in the second book. Second, Bro,

1809
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 2: Hopefully we cook another one up y'all.

1810
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 5: Bro, y'all cook. And speaking of cooking, I'm proud of you'all.

1811
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 2: Mari Hardwick. Man, you can catch this and all the

1812
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 2: I love you too, bro, this moment, all the Smoke

1813
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 2: Productions YouTube and the Draft Cleans network. Man, We'll see

1814
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 2: y'all next week.

1815
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:09,800
Speaker 3: M hm.

1816
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm

1817
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:25,600
Speaker 4: Mm hmmmm