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Speaker 1: I hope I haven't been unclear. Stephanie is next, another

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Speaker 1: long time contributor and friend of the show. She said,

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Speaker 1: where do you come up with your jokes? Stephanie, easiest

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Speaker 1: answer ever. I don't come up with him. If I

431
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Speaker 1: tried to come up with him, they'd suck. It's my opinion,

432
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Speaker 1: being funny on purpose is one of the hardest jobs

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Speaker 1: in the world. That's why when I'm funny, it's only

434
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Speaker 1: by accident. When I say stuff on these shows, it's

435
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: only because if you talk long enough, you're bound to

436
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: accidentally stumble into a funny joke. And that is my

437
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: theory on any good joke that I tell, whether it

438
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Speaker 1: be on the podcast or on Late Cake Live. I

439
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: have watched stand up comedians before. Those are people who

440
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Speaker 1: are trying to be funny and successfully being funny. The

441
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Speaker 1: good ones at least never got Dane Cook sidebar. I

442
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Speaker 1: know it's been a little while, but Damee Cook, there

443
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: was a period of time where that guy was selling

444
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Speaker 1: out arenas, not comedy clubs, with eight hundred people. Arenas.

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Speaker 1: You people, and I do mean you people were packing

446
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Speaker 1: arenas twenty thousand strong to go watch Dane Cook. I

447
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Speaker 1: have a low threshold for comedy, as I've told our

448
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: Bud Elliott before. I think Joe Dirt is hilarious, so

449
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Speaker 1: I do not have this refined, sophisticated English. Patient is great,

450
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Speaker 1: but Jaws is terrible. View of the world, and comedy

451
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Speaker 1: is the same way. So if if it's even remotely funny,

452
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Speaker 1: I'm laughing at it. I watched Dane Cook and I

453
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: never cracked a smile. So aside from Dane Cook, most

454
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Speaker 1: stand up comedians who are successful are funny. I watch

455
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Speaker 1: those people, I'm in all of them. That's crazy that

456
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Speaker 1: you can intentionally be funny and be successful at it.

457
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Speaker 1: When I'm funny, it may make you laugh. But believe me,

458
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Speaker 1: it was not scripted. If I tried to script it,

459
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Speaker 1: you'll know because you'll see that I just tried to

460
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Speaker 1: make a joke and it went over like the oh.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to say lead balloon because

462
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Speaker 1: everyone says lead balloon, but that's exactly what it goes

463
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Speaker 1: over as So thank you for the question, Stephanie. And

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Speaker 1: if you want to believe that I'm doing that on purpose,

465
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Speaker 1: I don't mind. I don't mind at all, but just

466
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Speaker 1: know kind of like expecting that money under your pillow

467
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Speaker 1: after you lose a tooth. That's kind of the world

468
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Speaker 1: we're living in right now, if you believe I'm writing

469
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Speaker 1: that stuff. Next up, this is guaranteed to be a

470
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Speaker 1: good question because it is sent to us by Josh,

471
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Speaker 1: and Josh says Josh, I'm a huge fan of the show. Well,

472
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Speaker 1: thank you, Josh. I'm a diehard Gator fan. My preseason

473
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Speaker 1: SEC Championship prediction was, Hey, get this Florida versus Texas

474
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Speaker 1: A and M. Alrighty, after watching what Mississippi State did

475
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Speaker 1: to LSU, though, it tells me they are a serious

476
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Speaker 1: contender to Alabama and could face Florida in the SEC Championship.

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Speaker 1: Hold up here, what do you mean they're a contender

478
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Speaker 1: to Alabama? You picked A and M A and M

479
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: hasn't lost a game yet. All right, I digress. Let's

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Speaker 1: move on. It's not what he's asking. My question is,

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Speaker 1: do you believe Mississippi State is just smoke and mirrors

482
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Speaker 1: or are they good enough to make a serious run

483
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Speaker 1: and call some upsets? Well, they're obviously good enough to

484
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Speaker 1: cast some upsets. There's no one in the room, but

485
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it. Anyway, Hey, remind me to tell

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Speaker 1: you something about smoking mirrors in a second. All right,

487
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Speaker 1: that's on you, guys, cause there's no one in here

488
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Speaker 1: right now except for the dog who is still very

489
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Speaker 1: active outside. So the thing about Mississippi State is they

490
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Speaker 1: are the quintessential upset alert. You know. It's kind of

491
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Speaker 1: like if my little four year old nephew is swinging

492
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Speaker 1: a baseball bat and he's swinging it at my knees,

493
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Speaker 1: I have enough wingspan where I can reach out and

494
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Speaker 1: I can put my hand on top of his head

495
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 1: and I can keep him at arm's length and he

496
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Speaker 1: can't hurt me. That's kind of how Mississippi State will

497
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Speaker 1: feel to a team like Alabama, Alabama and Nick Saban.

498
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: They know they got an advantage on them at virtually

499
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Speaker 1: every roster position and position unit. But they're still dangerous

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Speaker 1: because if they if you just look away for a second,

501
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: if you let them within arms reach for a second,

502
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Speaker 1: they will club your shin with that baseball bat. And

503
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Speaker 1: then when you fall to the ground, they're not gonna laugh.

504
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: They're just gonna keep clubbing it and swinging over and

505
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Speaker 1: over and over again. And then afterwards they're gonna make

506
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Speaker 1: fun of you, and they're gonna deadpan comedy right there

507
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Speaker 1: on the field, and they're gonna talk about how they

508
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Speaker 1: couldn't schedule Green Bay so they had to settle for

509
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: you instead, and how they were surprised you played him

510
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Speaker 1: so simply defensively. But hey, they're happy to take advantage

511
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Speaker 1: of it. Michael Leach kind of said all these things

512
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Speaker 1: Saturday and in case you so, yeah, they'll worry everyone. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they are a threat to win the West.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that. In fact, I don't know that

515
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Speaker 1: we've gotten an answer about Mississippi State yet. Listen, this

516
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: is a team who bombed away on LSU. I happen

517
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Speaker 1: to think that the path is going to be a

518
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Speaker 1: little more difficult than that. They may play less talented teams.

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Speaker 1: For instance, maybe they'll play Arkansas Saturday, and Arkansas will

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Speaker 1: make it tougher on them defensively than LSU did. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna happen. I'm not calling upset alert.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I think Arkansas is going to

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Speaker 1: be a tougher out defensively than LSU was. So make

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Speaker 1: sense of that for me. But I do not believe

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Speaker 1: they are a threat to win the West. In fact,

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Speaker 1: if you were to put right now, given they have

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Speaker 1: a win under their belt, if you put their over

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Speaker 1: underwin total at seven and a half, I'd still absolutely

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Speaker 1: take the under. I'd probably take the under at six

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Speaker 1: and a half. Guys, this is probably a team that's

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Speaker 1: a lot closer to five and five, six and four

532
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Speaker 1: than they are eight and two. I know that maybe

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Speaker 1: if you had only seen Week one, which is all

534
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: any of us have seen, that's kind of hard to

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Speaker 1: believe because they look like world beaters. It is not

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Speaker 1: my belief that you can go through an entire regular

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Speaker 1: season down here, or especially a ten game conference schedule,

538
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 1: and have that kind of offensive imbalance. I just don't

539
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Speaker 1: think you're throwing for half a mile on someone and

540
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: running for a couple of inches. Don't think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna pan out that way. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, every week, we'll get a new

543
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Speaker 1: fresh set of data points, and maybe they'll score sixty

544
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Speaker 1: on Arkansas this weekend. Maybe they will. I don't know

545
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: that would have proven anything, but maybe they will. So

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00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: we'll kind of have to revisit this I guess as

547
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: the week's go on. Tristan had a pretty interesting question here.

548
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: With week one of SEC play in the books, it's

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Speaker 1: time for me to overreact. And here's my overreaction. Could

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Speaker 1: the SEC East be the better division in the conference

551
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time. Obviously it's

552
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: too early to tell, and the added cross division games

553
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: should make it clear at the end of the season,

554
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: but they seem neck and neck right now as usual,

555
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: and as most people probably did. Tristan. Now, as I

556
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Speaker 1: was reading the question, I scoffed at the notion. Then

557
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: I thought about it a little deeper. I like to

558
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 1: do seeding for these sorts of things. So if we

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Speaker 1: were to seed the conference, and we were to go

560
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: one versus one, two versus two, so on and so on,

561
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: which is the only way I would ever value bowl season.

562
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Speaker 1: By the way, it's always aggravated me that you could

563
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Speaker 1: have a conference. Let's say the ACC goes four and

564
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: two against the SEC and the bowl season, but the

565
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: top two teams from the SEC made the playoff, and

566
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: so you had teams that would have been the three

567
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: or four seed in the bowl rotation for the SEC

568
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: bumped up to the one and two spots, and you

569
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Speaker 1: have a situation where the ACC's number two team is

570
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Speaker 1: playing the SEC's number five team. I don't care about that.

571
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: That doesn't tell me anything about conference strength or for supremacy.

572
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: The only time you would have a true test is

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Speaker 1: if you had one versus one, two versus two, three

574
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Speaker 1: versus three. So let's just pretend the SEC divisions are

575
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Speaker 1: headed into bowl season. If we pair them up, like so,

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Speaker 1: who would we favor, Well, the one versus one, let's

577
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: just call it Alabama, let's call it Alabama Florida. Right now,

578
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: let's just do that. You can call it Alabama Georgia.

579
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Speaker 1: We'll call it Alabama Florida. I would favor Alabama there.

580
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: But then we get to the number two, and who's

581
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Speaker 1: the number two in the SEC West, I don't know.

582
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Speaker 1: We wouldn't say LSU right now, would we say Auburn?

583
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Speaker 1: Would we say A and M? Because either way we're

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Speaker 1: going if we're picking Auburn, for example, well they're facing Georgia.

585
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: Georgia is the number two over there right now, and

586
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: well those teams play Saturday, and George is favored by seven,

587
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: and you can shave off whatever you think they're giving

588
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: for home field, I can tell you it's about one

589
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: and a half this year. Well, that still means odds

590
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: makers would lean Georgia. I would have to slightly lean

591
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: Georgia there if we're putting Auburn in the number two spot.

592
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: If we're putting A and M there, I would still

593
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: lean Georgia. If we're putting LSU there, I would still

594
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: I think lean Georgia. Yes, I would. There's no thinking.

595
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: And then we get down to the three spot. The

596
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: three spots probably where you lean maybe back towards the

597
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: SEC West because it's Tennessee versus. And then we're filling

598
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Speaker 1: in the blank there again. If it's Auburn, I would

599
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: probably favorite Auburn. If it's A and M, probably favorite

600
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Speaker 1: A and M. If it's LSU, have probably favorite LSU.

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Speaker 1: It's tough to say. I do it with gritted teeth

602
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: because we are through one week where LSU was humbled

603
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: at the hands of Mike Leach's system. But then again,

604
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: that's kJ Costello. I don't think Jerry Garantano is throwing

605
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: for six hundred and thirty some odd yards this month,

606
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 1: much less than a game. I know that's harsh, but

607
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: search your hearts. You know it to be true. So

608
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: we start getting deeper there. Who's the fourth team? Fourth team?

609
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: Is it Missouri is at Kentucky? It's definitely Kentucky. In fact,

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00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: you could put Kentucky in the three spot if you

611
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: wanted to. But we're getting a little deeper there. And

612
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: if we were to have Kentucky play, oh, say Mississippi

613
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: State or Old Miss, well they play Saturday, don't they.

614
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: Kentucky plays Old Miss Saturday. So you know what, Tristan,

615
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: I think this question would probably be better saved for one

616
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: week from now, because, as you said, cross divisional matchups

617
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: gonna start telling us a lot. And I view every

618
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: game as a neutral site game this year essentially because

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Speaker 1: home field with the exception maybe of Columbia South Carolina

620
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: the other night, which sounded like it was on fire,

621
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: sounded like it was the Indianapolis five hundred. It sounded

622
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: like there were two hundred thousand people there. So good

623
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: job in Columbia. But aside from that, haven't really seen

624
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: home field matter all that much. I mean, granted, like

625
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: if you're Louisiana Tech and you're traveling to Brigham Young

626
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: to play tonight, yeah, that's a little different. You're probably

627
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: having to make four or five connections to get there,

628
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: but they fly direct in this conference to make it

629
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: sound as conceded as possible. So yeah, let's wait one

630
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: or two more weeks before we say that. Eric next

631
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: up with one of my favorite kind of questions because

632
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: he leads it with a little bit about himself. He said, Josh,

633
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: hello from the Middle East. I'm on my fourth tour

634
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: in the desert. But I love the show and the

635
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 1: perspective that you bring to it, especially when dealing with

636
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 1: insert team name here fanatics. I'm an FSU fan, so

637
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: despite growing up in Kansas, I've loved him since nineteen

638
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: eighty seven. My knowles have had it rough for several

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Speaker 1: years now. I'd love for you to address the following

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Speaker 1: question on your show, what three things must FSU do

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Speaker 1: to become a top five power program? Again. I get

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Speaker 1: a lot of these, I should point them out every time.

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Speaker 1: A ton of you listen, who are overseas, who are

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Speaker 1: in service, who are active duty. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for that. Let me give you the obligatory thank you

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Speaker 1: that you hear it all the time, but thank you

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Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart, and the listening audience

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Speaker 1: is hard. Secondly, I always just want to tell you

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Speaker 1: this when I record a show or when I do

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Speaker 1: a show. Sort of one of the devices, the mental

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Speaker 1: devices that I use when I do it, is I

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Speaker 1: try and envision. I've said this before. I think I

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Speaker 1: try and envision someone listening somewhere. Sometimes it's a truck

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Speaker 1: driver on a three day haul across the country. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: it is someone jogging. Sometimes it's someone trying to pass

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Speaker 1: the time at work. It's someone maybe in a lawnmower

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Speaker 1: every now and then. But a lot of time, what

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Speaker 1: I'm envisioning is an active duty military personnel member somewhere.

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Speaker 1: I get them all over the place. I get them everywhere,

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Speaker 1: from Japan to Germany. We got a ton of them

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Speaker 1: who listen in all parts of the Middle East. And

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Speaker 1: that's why I never do a show in a bad mood,

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Speaker 1: because it's stupid to ever be in a bad mood

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Speaker 1: when someone's paying you to talk about college football. That's obvious.

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Speaker 1: But the other obvious part is maybe you're the forty

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Speaker 1: think about, but what if you are their best form

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Speaker 1: of entertainment and most alleviating few moments from an otherwise

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Speaker 1: really really difficult job or chore a very stressful situation

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Speaker 1: they're in. That is how I envision the situation when

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Speaker 1: we're recording, Just to give you a little backstory there.

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much for the email. Eric. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to answer it in a second, but thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for the email and letting me know where

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Speaker 1: you are. And I always appreciate you guys doing that.

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Speaker 1: It's like free market research too, So thank you. But

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Speaker 1: as for the question what things must FSU do to

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Speaker 1: become a top five power program, Well, you can't plant

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Speaker 1: seeds in the wrong kind of soil. That's obvious. Even

683
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Speaker 1: if you haven't gardened, that's obvious. So what kind of

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Speaker 1: soil do they have there right now? Because I'm worried

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Speaker 1: about it. I'm really worried about Mike Norvel and the

686
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Speaker 1: task he has at hand right now, because when the

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Speaker 1: season goes off the rails really early in a normal year,

688
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Speaker 1: it's dangerous. But look around right now and think about

689
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Speaker 1: what he is supposed to be in the middle of

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Speaker 1: He's supposed to be in the middle of a rebuild

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Speaker 1: down there. Now with the rebuild, you think, in your mind, Okay,

692
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Speaker 1: the seeds have been planted. Now we're just we're waiting

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Speaker 1: for the growth and the eventual harvest, and we just

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Speaker 1: have to wait. We have to have patience. That's true.

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Speaker 1: But what if the seeds aren't planted. What if you

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Speaker 1: don't have the right soil. And I'm not just talking

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Speaker 1: about the right players, I'm talking about the right culture

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Speaker 1: with which to put the players in my concern, my

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Speaker 1: biggest concern with FSU right now would be things have

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Speaker 1: gone sideways early. What if things become very tumultuous behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes. What if the locker room situation becomes cancerous.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know this to be true. I'm saying

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Speaker 1: this is a danger that I worry about. And what

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Speaker 1: if more harm than good is done this year? What

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Speaker 1: if you get to the end of twenty twenty in

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Speaker 1: the season and you say, if you, Mike Norvel, I'm

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Speaker 1: further away now than I was when I got here.

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Speaker 1: How is that even possible? What's possible to go backwards?

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Speaker 1: That's the bottom line. It's very possible, and that's what

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Speaker 1: I worry about. So the first thing that he has

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Speaker 1: to have is he has to have the right soil.

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Speaker 1: The second thing he has to have is the right

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Speaker 1: seeds to put in it. That's recruiting, So you got

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Speaker 1: to develop relationships in other words, and they got to

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Speaker 1: be able to put together top five classes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. Who are we trying to compete

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Speaker 1: against you? You're trying to go eight and four and

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Speaker 1: win a few games against Virginia and Wake Forest. What

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Speaker 1: are we trying to do? We're trying to go nine

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Speaker 1: and three. Are we trying to go twelve to zero?

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Speaker 1: We're trying to compete for a national title. Because you

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Speaker 1: said top five program. To do that, you got to

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Speaker 1: have top five personnel. You got to be able to

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Speaker 1: because Clemson has it and they're not underperforming. Alabama has

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Speaker 1: it and they're not underperforming. This isn't a situation where

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Speaker 1: you say, all right, let's just get close and then

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Speaker 1: we'll out coach them. No you won't, No, you won't.

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Speaker 1: I don't care how good at coaching job you're doing.

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Speaker 1: You better have the players. So that's part two, and

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Speaker 1: then part three is developing them and then executing in

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Speaker 1: the few games a year where you're in an absolute dogfight,

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Speaker 1: even when you have a loaded roster, that's really it,

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Speaker 1: and maintaining proper culture all the while having full program

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Speaker 1: by and having everyone in your corner. That's one of

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Speaker 1: the hardest intangible parts of this business if you're a

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Speaker 1: coach and this sport, if you're a fan and you're

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Speaker 1: just observing, is to understand what it's like at Alabama,

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Speaker 1: to understand what it is like at a Georgia, for example,

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Speaker 1: now where it used to be, and to understand how

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Speaker 1: thoroughly those machines are operating every aspect. You would be stunned.

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Speaker 1: Even from the outside. You think you know, and you

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Speaker 1: don't know how well oiled those machines are, how massive

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Speaker 1: they are, and how well oiled they are if anyone

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Speaker 1: gets out of line. It's like watching North Korean military exercises.

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Speaker 1: You watch all those things, and you see how how

746
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Speaker 1: perfectly in unison those soldiers march and those tanks move. Well,

747
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Speaker 1: there's a reason because if anyone's out of line, they

748
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Speaker 1: know what happens to them. That's the same way it

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Speaker 1: is if you're in that machine at Alabama or Georgia.

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Speaker 1: If you get out of line, not going to be

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Speaker 1: a good time for you. All the more reason to

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Speaker 1: stay in line. If you observe that, if you have

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Speaker 1: a situation, or if you have an opportunity, like someone

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Speaker 1: like me has to observe that from somewhat of an

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Speaker 1: inside position, You're stunned they ever lose a football game,

756
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Speaker 1: because when you see what they do, and therefore you

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Speaker 1: see what it's going to take to compete against them,

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Speaker 1: it's such an impossible seeming task for a new coach

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Speaker 1: to build something that's even remotely comparable to what Saban

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Speaker 1: has at Alabama or what Dabbo now has at Clemson,

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Speaker 1: Kirby has it at Georgia. I mean, listen, that's kind

762
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Speaker 1: of the difference. Even with Lincoln Lincoln Riley it out

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Speaker 1: at Oklahoma. They're a very good program. There is still

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Speaker 1: a gap, a pretty sizeable between Oklahoma and those big boys.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they couldn't meet on a football field

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Speaker 1: any given Saturday in Oklahoma may pop one of them.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they couldn't do that. Of course they could.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the level that a program is flying at.

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Speaker 1: They're not flying at the level Alabama's flying at, it

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Speaker 1: takes a long time to get there, and if you

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Speaker 1: get there in a shorter amount of time, it means

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Speaker 1: you've hired a rock star head coach and you're on

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Speaker 1: the fast track for long term success. And at that point,

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Speaker 1: the bigger question is can you keep him? Because the

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Speaker 1: NFL is gonna come calling for anyone like that. All

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Speaker 1: the reason Saban's not there is because he's tried it

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Speaker 1: before and he's about to be seventy years old, and

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Speaker 1: that's not a new chapter he wants to write. Because

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Speaker 1: if Nick Saban were sixty again, Nick Saban would be

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Speaker 1: back to the NFL. I guarantee you he'd be back

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Speaker 1: to the NFL. We had really good questions this morning.

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Speaker 1: We have got a big show tonight. It is our

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Speaker 1: Prediction Special. We get all the predictions out of the

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Speaker 1: way on Thursday. We do the big predictions on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: So if you're a Georgia fan, or an Auburn fan,

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Speaker 1: or an A and M Alabama, or if you're just

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Speaker 1: interested in those games, we already have the full game

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Speaker 1: predictions breakdowns, picks against the spread are projected final score

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Speaker 1: well our projected margin of victory at least we do

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Speaker 1: all that. In the preview. We do basically just tell

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Speaker 1: you everything you need to know, and we give you

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Speaker 1: a full game capsule and you do with it what

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Speaker 1: you will. So we got a lot already on the

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Speaker 1: channel on the twenty four seven Sports YouTube channel. We'll

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Speaker 1: have more coming up tonight, so make sure you go

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Speaker 1: over seven hundred now, so we hit that milestone. We

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Speaker 1: want to get to one thousand. We will not rest

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Speaker 1: when we get to a thousand, but we especially won't

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Speaker 1: rest until we get there. Toni has challenged me, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't think we can do it by the end of

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Speaker 1: Prove Tony wrong. If nothing else in your life, make

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Speaker 1: it your goal to prove Tony wrong. He talks about

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Speaker 1: you bad behind your back, got about you. He really

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Speaker 1: makes fun of your cousin, So let's prove him wrong.

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Speaker 1: None of what I just said is true, but prove

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Speaker 1: him wrong anyway. So with that being said, Jordan's the

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Speaker 1: one who's editing the podcast today. It's out of Tany's

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Speaker 1: hands so he can't do anything about it. So thank

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Speaker 1: you to Jordan on the production side. Thank you to

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Speaker 1: you for listening. I'm Josh Pate. This has been the

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Speaker 1: Late Kick Extra. God bless have a great day and

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