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The phone 75 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: number is eight five five seven six eight one eight 76 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: eight three, or text the word cactus three two. Welcome 77 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: back to Verdicts with Ted Cruz. I am Michael Knowles, Senator. 78 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: This has been a big couple of days for you 79 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: and for the First Amendment. And for conservatives, especially heading 80 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: into the midterms, you had a major victory not in 81 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: the capital, but in another branch of government at the 82 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. Well, that's right, I final lawsuit against the 83 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: federal government and one a six three victory at the 84 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: US Supreme Court based on the First Amendment. And what 85 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: I was challenging is a part of McCain Finegold. Remember 86 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: McCain Finegold was the big so called campaign finance reform 87 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: bill that passed twenty some odd years ago, and it's 88 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: a terrible bill. It has all sorts of terrible provisions. 89 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court is struck down a bunch of those provisions. 90 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: Many of the provisions were designed with one thing in mind, 91 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: to protect incumbent politicians. And you think about it, campaign 92 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: finance laws are written by incumbent politicians and the one 93 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: thing they can all agree on is they don't want 94 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: anyone to beat them on election day, and so campaign 95 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: finance many of these provisions, including the provision I challenge, 96 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: are designed to make it hard for challengers to win. 97 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: In particular, what this provision said is, if you're a 98 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: candidate for office, let's say Michael Knowles decides to run 99 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: for Senate in the state of Tennessee, and you're a 100 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: first time candidate. You don't have a lot of name 101 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: I d but you've saved some money and you decide, 102 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: let's say you're a small business owner, and you decide 103 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: to put five hundred thousand dollars into the campaign to 104 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: loan your campaign five hundred thousand dollars to jump started, 105 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: to run your first ads, to get started. Well, what 106 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: McCain fine Gold provided is if you loan your campaign 107 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars on campaign day, you were capped 108 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: on what you could pay yourself back at two hundred 109 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars, and everything beyond that was essentially 110 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: a gift to the taxpayers. So if you loan your 111 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: campaign five hundred thousand dollars, you're out two hundred and 112 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. You can pay yourself back to fifty 113 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: but not a penny beyond that with money raised after 114 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: election day. The purpose of it was real simple. They 115 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: didn't want people loaning themselves money to run against incumbents, 116 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: and so I saw this as a practical matter when 117 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: I first ran for senate. So I ran for Senate 118 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, my opponent, David Duhurst, worth over two 119 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, a gazillionaire. He put over thirty million 120 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: dollars zone money and just wrote a massive check. I'm 121 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: sitting I don't have thirty million dollars. I've got no name, 122 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: I d no one's ever heard of me. I'd never 123 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: run like, I'd never been elected office. This was the 124 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: last thing I was elected to was student council. So 125 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: I'm running this, this grassroots campaign, and the week before 126 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: the primary campaign manager comes to me and says, okay, 127 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: the only way you can survive is if you liquidate 128 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: all of your quod net worth and drop it into 129 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: the campaign and alone. And so Heidi and I we'd 130 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: worked a number of years. We had one point two 131 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: million dollars in savings, and I went by the way. 132 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: I went to Heidi and said, sweetheart, what do you 133 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: think about putting our whole liquid net worth into the campaign. 134 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't advise this conversation. This is a dangerous conversation 135 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: to have with your spouse. Astonishingly, Heidi and second said, yes, 136 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: do it. We did. That got us into the runoff, 137 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,679 Speaker 1: which ended up getting me into the Senate. This law 138 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: was designed to say you can't pay yourself back. So 139 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: I filed a lawsuit challenging this provision of McCain fine Gold, 140 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:48,119 Speaker 1: saying it's unconstitutional, saying it restricts political speech. We won 141 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: in a three judge district court and won unanimously, and 142 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: then it went to the US Supreme Court, was argued 143 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: earlier this year, and just this week we won six three. 144 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: Chief Justice Roberts wrote a terrific opinion said this was 145 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: clearly designed to stifle political speech, to stop challengers from 146 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: taking on incumbents, to benefit career politicians, and so they 147 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: struck the law down, the result of which is it's 148 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: now easier for challengers to run for office and for 149 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: challengers to take on and beat career politicians. Well, it's 150 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: a great win. I'm glad that given the amount of 151 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: money you had donated to your own campaign to really 152 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: just to test this law, presumably you'll get back something 153 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: like ten thousand dollars these days in the Biden economy, 154 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: I think that'll pretty much just buy you a nice 155 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: steak dinner, but I hope you enjoy it to celebrate. 156 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: What I'm really interested in is what does this mean, 157 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: practically for candidates who are running right now in the 158 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two midterms, how do you think it's going 159 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: to affect the landscape? So it has a big impact. 160 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: I got to tell you, in the Senate and in 161 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: the House, I cannot tell you how many current Senators 162 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: and current House members have come up to me said 163 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, Like like I have I loaned 164 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: my campaign hundreds of thousands of dollars or maybe even 165 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: a million dollars or more, and I've never been able 166 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: to repay myself. Like the level of gratitude among Republicans, 167 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: but even among Democrats. They can't admit it because their 168 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: side is a big fan of stifling the free speech, 169 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: but they're grateful. And you know, it's amazing. The corrupt 170 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: corporate media the way they cover this, Like the headlines 171 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: from all of the media is like, now it's legal 172 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 1: to bribes senators. I saw that headline. It's like, well, no, 173 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: the contributions to pay back the loan or under the 174 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: same contribution limits of twenty nine hundred dollars a person, 175 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: same limit applies. So the idea is eighty six contributions 176 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: at twenty nine hundred a piece, adds up to two 177 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So eighty six contributions were 178 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: just fine to pay yourself back, but the eighty seven 179 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: was clearly corruption. It was all a croc. By the way, 180 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: it's interesting if you look at the debate on the 181 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: Senate floor, both Pete Domenici and Kay Bailey Hutcheson, my 182 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: predecessor on the Senate floor, they were very candid why 183 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: they wanted this provision. They said, look, we don't want 184 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: someone to run against us and loan their campaign a 185 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: million bucks or five million bucks. They might beat us. 186 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: And it's interesting some of the coverage where they say, well, gosh, 187 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: this is benefiting the candidates because they can put the 188 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: money in their own bank account. The descent says you 189 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: can take the money and use it to buy a 190 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: car or join a country club. And this is the 191 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: classic classic leftist like the ultimate definition of evil is 192 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: joining a country club. I'm not a member of a 193 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: country club, but it's how the left defines it. The 194 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: one thing they seem to be omitting is it's your 195 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: damn money. Like this is not that that's the funny thing. 196 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: It's like, all right, you start out with in the 197 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: hypothetical five hundred thousand you had it to begin with, 198 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: you loaned it to the campaign that pays you back. 199 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: You got the same damn money you started with. None 200 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: of these leftists and the media acknowledge that at all. Now, 201 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: speaking of money flying around the Capitol, there is a 202 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: vote that just occurred. I think that seems to have 203 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: divided the right, the Republicans, the Conservatives, and it's this 204 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: vote over funding for Ukraine. And you voted for the 205 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: funding in Ukraine. There is a lot of confusion about 206 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: what this funding is for, what's included in the bill. 207 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: So what do you have to say about that? Yeah, look, 208 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: so we just had a vote on forty billion dollars 209 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: in additional funding for Ukraine, and there are a lot 210 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: of folks, a lot of grassroots activists, probably a lot 211 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: of viewers of this pod, who are skeptical of that funding. 212 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: I think the vote for the funding was the right 213 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: thing to do. I voted yes. I think there were 214 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: a total of eleven no votes, So it was a 215 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: relatively small group of Republicans that voted no, but it 216 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: was most of the Conservatives. And look, if you ask 217 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: a grassroots activist, I was up in Pennsylvania campaigning on 218 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday, and the activists there, they're like, all right, 219 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: forty billion dollars sounds like a ton of money. Anything 220 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: going to something in a foreign country sounds like a 221 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: waste of money. We got chaos in our southern border 222 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: and people are pissed off. How come these jerks want 223 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: secure the southern border and yet they want to send 224 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: money overseas and then people are frustrated at all the 225 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,599 Speaker 1: other things like inflation and the baby formula shortage and 226 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: everything else. They're like, focus on at home, not abroad. 227 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: I understand all the sentiments. Here's why I voted yes 228 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine. It is in America's national security 229 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: interest for Vladimir Putin to lose. If Russia wins, it's 230 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: bad for America. Now, as you know, we shouldn't have 231 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: been in this war. This war is unnecessary. Biden's weakness 232 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: caused it. Biden's waiving the sanctions on Nordstream too caused 233 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: this war. We talked a lot on this podcast about 234 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: Nordstream two, the sanctions legislation that I wrote that stopped 235 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: that pipeline, that prevented the war. Until Joe Bidenate came in, 236 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: waived the sanctions surrendered to Putin and caused the invasion. 237 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: That being said, if Putin succeeds, it hurts America. It 238 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: is bad for America. Putin wants to reassemble the old 239 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: Soviet Union. We want our enemies to be weaker. We 240 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: don't want our enemies to be stronger. If Putin conquers Ukraine, 241 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: he will be stronger. He will have more of a 242 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 1: stranglehold over energy. That's bad for America. We've seen energy 243 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: prices skyrocketing. Putin controlling Ukraine gives him more of a 244 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: stranglehold over our energy prices, and that is we will 245 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: end up spending much more battling against Putin. If he wins, 246 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: then if we provide Ukraine the weapons to beat him, 247 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: of the forty billion, nine billion of it is replenishing 248 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: US military stocks. So in other words, it's it's replenishing 249 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: stingers and javelins and weapons that the American military has 250 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: that have been given to Ukraine. And our stocks are depleted. 251 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: And I don't know of anyone rational that can argue 252 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: against those nine trillion that we obviously should be have 253 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: the weapons necessary to defend ourselves. A total of twenty 254 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: four billion. Of this amount is military aid to Ukraine. 255 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: So it's bullets, it's missiles, it's stingers, it's javelins, it's 256 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: the weapons that Ukraine is using to win victories and 257 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: defeating putin in battles ongoing. That's good for America to 258 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: have the Ukrainians defeating Russia. There's an additional portion of this, 259 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: it's about four and a half billion dollars that is 260 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: focused in particular on food aid. And one of the 261 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: consequences of this war. You know, Ukraine is called the 262 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: bread basket of Europe, grows enormous quantities of grain. This 263 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: war has shut down that food production and that the 264 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: projections are that we could be facing massive famines throughout Africa, 265 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: throughout Egypt, throughout the developing world as a consequence of this. 266 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: I think providing some funding to prevent mass starvation and 267 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: mass famine makes sense. Now, there's also in this bill 268 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: about eight billion dollars that goes to the government of 269 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: Ukraine for economic assistance. I think that's crap. I would 270 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: delete that. I think it is almost certain a lot 271 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: of that is almost certain to go to waste. I 272 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: think some of it will go to corruption. You know, 273 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: some of that who knows, could end up in some 274 00:15:53,920 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: oligarch's yacht in the Baltic Sea. That's possible. It's also 275 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: the consequence of having a bill that is drafted by Democrats, 276 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: that's drafted by Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. 277 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: So I'm faced with a binary decision. I don't like 278 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: that eight billion. I would cut that waste, I would 279 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: get rid of it. But I think it would be 280 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: a mistake. I don't think it would be the responsible decision, 281 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: particularly when Ukraine is beating Russia, to say, Okay, we're 282 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: going to cut off your bullets and cut off your 283 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: missiles and put you in a position where the inevitable 284 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: result is putin wins. That's bad for America, putin wins, 285 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: and I don't want our enemies getting stronger because that 286 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: ends up hurting us. Well, I think I think this 287 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: is the strongest argument for the bill. I know a 288 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: lot of conservatives roll their eyes when the arguments for 289 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: funding the war in Ukraine are that Ukraine is this thriving, 290 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: wonderful democracy, and you know, in the abstract, we need 291 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: to defend you know, this flourishing republic, when in fact 292 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: it's obviously a lot of corruption. Probably some of that 293 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: money is going to go to that corruption. But I 294 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: like the way you're putting it. You're saying, Look, it's 295 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: a simple question. What is better for America. Is it 296 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: better for America at Vladimir Putin run Ukraine or for 297 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 1: Zalinski and the rest of these guys to run Ukraine. 298 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: One of the frustrating things is I think a lot 299 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: of the Republicans defending this, you were pretty kind a 300 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: second ago. I think they're eye bleedingly horrible. And how 301 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: they defend this, and they get up and say things 302 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: like we must protect democracy, we must protect international norms. 303 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: That's all hogwash, that's the kind of garbage, John Kerry says. 304 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: And so one of the problems is some of the 305 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: people who voted with me are saying things that I 306 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: think are imbecilic, and I hate their justifications. It's not 307 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: why I support the military a you know, it used 308 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: to be all Republicans were agreed, we support a strong military, 309 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: we stand up to our enemies. But let me give 310 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: you what I think is the single best argument for 311 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: this aid package. Listen, Rush is a very real danger. 312 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: Putin is a very real danger, but there's a bigger danger, 313 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: and that's China. Communist China is watching this. She is 314 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: watching this, as you remember, And I said this on 315 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: the podcast when Joe Biden surrendered to the Taliban and 316 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: had the disastrous failure in Afghanistan. I said at the time, 317 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: the chances of Putin invading Ukraine have just risen tenfold. 318 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: And I said, the chances of China invading Taiwan have 319 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: risen tenfold because they've looked at the man in the 320 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: Oval office. They've taken the measure of the man. Well, 321 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 1: right now, she is watching what happens in Ukraine and 322 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: if Putin wins, and even more importantly, if Putin wins, 323 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: because America lost the stomach for supporting our allies decided, 324 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: you know what, even though the Ukrainians are heroically defeating 325 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: the Russians, even while outmanned little old Grandmother's throwing Molotov cocktails, 326 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: the Americans were so feckless we said, sorry, we're cutting 327 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: off your bullets and missiles. Good luck winning a war, 328 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 1: you know, with no bullets. I think the chances of 329 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: China invading Taiwan. Skyrocket dramatically and you want to talk 330 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 1: about profoundly dangerous. One of the reasons we don't want 331 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: China to invade Taiwan. If they invade Taiwan, it gives 332 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: communist China a stranglehold on semiconductors produced worldwide. Vast percentage 333 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: of the semiconductors produced in the world are produced in Taiwan. 334 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: It literally puts US in a position where we're dependent 335 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: on China for essential electronics. And they're one of two 336 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: outcomes in that. Either one they sell us chips that 337 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: they put spywear on to monitor everyone, and that's the 338 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: best case scenario. Best case scenario is China now has 339 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: spywear everywhere. Worst case scenario as they say, screw you, 340 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: no more chips for you. You know, it's like the 341 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: soup Nazi and Seinfeld. No soup for you, no chips 342 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: for you. That is a terrible outcome. And I believe look, 343 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: she is watching this. At the outset of this Ukraine war, 344 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: the Biden administration told Congress repeatedly said this war is 345 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: going to be over in two three days. Russia is 346 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: going to roll in conquered Ukraine. It's all going to 347 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: be over. Nothing to see here turned out the entire 348 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: Biden admin was spectactularly wrong. Every day this war drags on, 349 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: every Russian casualty, every dollar that the Russians pour down 350 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: a rat hole in this war A hurts Russia and Putin, 351 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: which is good for America, but b I think increases 352 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 1: the deterrence on China of further military aggression. So I 353 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: don't want America to project so much weakness that we 354 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: invite China to be aggressive an invader neighbors. And by 355 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: the way, invite Venezuela to do the same thing, Invite 356 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: North Korea to do the same thing, Invite a Rand 357 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: to do the same thing. There are a lot of 358 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: bad guys in the world. Yeah, that's a much stronger 359 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: argument than some of your colleagues. And I think if you, 360 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: if you just view foreign policy not just but primarily 361 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: view it through what is in the national interest of 362 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: the United States, that that's a reasonable way to approach 363 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 1: this question. And people's eyes won't glaze over in the 364 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: way that they do when you hear the peons to 365 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, democracy in the abstract, which in reality often 366 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: doesn't really exist. Now, speaking of democracy, speaking of the 367 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: will of the people, we get questions on this show, Senator. 368 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: We get questions all the time from our listeners, and 369 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: we never get to more than one or two of 370 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: them per show. So I've got a lightning round of 371 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: questions for you from the mail back from our great listeners. 372 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: Our listeners, of course, can join the Verdict Plus community. 373 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: They can subscribe on Apple podcast, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Play, YouTube, 374 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: my Space, I don't know. You can subscribe wherever leave 375 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: a five star review. Let's get to the first question. 376 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: I think probably the most pressing question. This is from Jonathan. 377 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: The Women's March was this weekend. We are seeing women 378 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: like Amber Heard, Jada Pinkett Smith, Meghan Markle, Kim Kardashian. 379 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: Is it time we start talking about toxic femininity? So look, 380 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: Jada Pinkett's Peggott Smith. It seems unfair to blame her 381 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: for the fact that that that Will Smith went and 382 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: took it, took a swing at someone. So I'm not 383 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: sure you know he has he has agency, so I'm 384 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: not going to blame her for that. Um, Amber Heard, 385 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: I'll confess I haven't watched this trial. I've seen like 386 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: snippets of it, and it seems a little bit like 387 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: watching a celebrity car crash. But but I haven't actually 388 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: watched it. I do not want to confess, Senator, that 389 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: I've watched this trial. It's riveting. It's riveting. It's the 390 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: best thing on television right now. I believe you. And 391 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: Johnny Depp seems like a weird dude. And I know, 392 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: like if twitters to believe, Amberhard is kind of really 393 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: bizarre and more in the wrong than people thought. But 394 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 1: I don't know that that that that is truly an 395 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: ignorant statement. Um, Kim Kardashian, she didn't done anything lately. 396 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: I mean she seems Kim seems fine. She Uh the 397 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: SNL guy, I don't, I can't, I don't know. I'm 398 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: team Kanye. I know, what can I say? Uh? I 399 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: mean Pete david said, all right, how come that dude 400 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: gets all of these like hot women because of toxic femininity? Senator? 401 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: That is the evidence that something has gone wrong. Pete 402 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: Davidson was dating Kate Beckinsdale. I mean, you're talking underworld, 403 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: You're talking like super hot vampire in black leather trench coat, 404 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: and you're like, really this an l dude? Like wow? Um? 405 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 1: And who was the fourth one. Uh. The fourth one 406 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: was oh oh, the the former Duchess and future President 407 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: Megan Markle. I am happily in a Royal free zone. 408 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: I cannot stand their antics. They're sort of they seem 409 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: left wing as a matter of social virtue, socialist because 410 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: they've inherited hundreds of millions of dollars, and as best 411 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: I can tell, trivial and not focused on actually things 412 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: that matter. Although again I say that with a degree 413 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: of ignorance. Maybe they're doing wonderful things in charity that 414 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. But everything I see in the headline 415 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: seems to be inane vanities and trying to prove to 416 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: leftist that they're as woke as anyone wants them to be. 417 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: I've always been a great defender of Her Majesty the Queen, 418 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: but I now have a conspiracy theory that actually the 419 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: whole mexit phenomenon was a plot by the royal family 420 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: to send this woman and Prince Harry to America to 421 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: rise through the political ranks to become president, to undo 422 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: the American Revolution and return the United States to the Commonwealth. 423 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: I don't I can't prove it yet. You'll be back, 424 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: You'll you'll be back. I've seen Hamilton, and that's that 425 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: the That's that's what our predecessors says. That's true. Okay, Well, 426 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: now that we've covered that important topic. Uh, next question. 427 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: This one's a bit more trivial from Galen. I would 428 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: like to know Senator Cruiz's position on civil asset forfeiture, 429 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: the legalized theft of personal property by the government with 430 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: no crime alleged. Very good question. Um, I've got real 431 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 1: concerns about civil asset forfeiture. I think it is abused 432 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: with some frequency. UM. I think there is a role 433 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: for civil asset forfeiture for an asset that was used 434 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: in carrying out a crime. Um. That's where it's legitimately applied. 435 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: I think it can be abused. The threshold is far 436 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: less than than than convicting someone beyond a reasonable doubt. 437 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: And I think there's been lots of allegations of law 438 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: enforcement abusing it because they want to seize a bunch 439 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: of assets even if someone hasn't done anything wrong. I look, 440 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: my basic view is if you commit a crime, if 441 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: if you're living on a you know, in a fancy 442 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: mansion and selling drugs out of the mansion, you can 443 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: lose the mansion and that that's part of the criminal law, 444 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: and I think it is an appropriate ancillary to a 445 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: criminal conviction. But I have long been vocal about the 446 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: abuse of civil asset forfeiture, and I think it needs 447 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: to be rained in. There's a question that we've heard 448 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: a whole lot about with regard to this overruling of 449 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade. This has become one of the top 450 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: Democrat talking points. Questions from Pittsburgh, who says, do you 451 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: believe that interracial marriage would be at risk if Roe v. 452 00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: Wade is overturned? Absolutely not, It's utterly absurd talk. Last podcast, 453 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: I made fun of the New York Times, which suggested 454 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: that that if Roe was overturned, that there are several 455 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: states that would in fact ban in a racial marriage. 456 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: Which which what is it? I think I had some 457 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: sort of long that they were like crazy, moronic, full 458 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: of crap. I don't even remember. It was a whole 459 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: string of adjectives making fun of the New York Times 460 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: because they have this view that only Manhattan could have 461 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: of tripping contempt for the rest of the country. No, 462 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: no state wants to ban in a racial marriage. No, 463 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: there's no risk of that No, there's no risk of 464 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: the law allowing it. That that that's all an absurd 465 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: slippery slope. And I can quantify precisely the chances of 466 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: that happening, and it's zero point zero zero. What about 467 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: zero point zero zero zero point zero zero zero one? 468 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: I mean, is are you saying there's a chance now? No? No, 469 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: not not even the dumb and dumber stand standard. I'm 470 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: not even saying there's a chance. There is zero chance. Yep. 471 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: From Kim, Let's be the last question. Why isn't the 472 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: Biden administration changing course? This, I think is a really 473 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: good political question. She says, the regime has dismal poll numbers, 474 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: worsening economics, and are obviously completely incompetent. So, even just 475 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: from a purely political perspective of self preservation, why isn't 476 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 1: the Biden administration changing on anything? So? I don't know 477 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: for sure, but I do have a theory, which is 478 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: that the kids are in charge. I think Biden is 479 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: truly checked out. I think his mental capacity is so 480 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: diminished that he's not running things. And when I really 481 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: became convinced of that, oddly enough, was at the State 482 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: of the Union and the state of the Union. Biden 483 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: was competent in reading what was on the teleprompter, but 484 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: any president looking at where things are now, it is 485 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: not rocket science to recognize that the Democrats are headed 486 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: to a blood bath in November. At this point, everyone 487 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: knows this. Republicans know this, Democrats know this. The State 488 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: of the Union was Biden's best opportunity to try to 489 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: change course. And by the way, we saw Bill Clinton 490 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: masterfully use State of the Union addresses to change course 491 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: and pull the Democrats path out of the gutter, Biden 492 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: didn't even try. I mean the question that was asked 493 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: that they're not trying to change course. They're doubling down 494 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: on crazy ass left wing radical Any principle would say, 495 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: hold on a second, let's not accept that we're headed 496 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: to a blood bath and losing the House. Let's not 497 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: accept that we're probably losing the Senate. Let's at least 498 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: try to hold onto a majority somewhere. They're not doing this, 499 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: and I think what is happening is you have people 500 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: like Ron Klaine, the chief of staff that's running it, 501 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: that they're like you're seeing the movie Doctor Strangelove. They're 502 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: like the guy with the cowboy hat, riding the bomb down. 503 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: They're just gonna take it all the way down and 504 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: blow the hell out of it. And if there were 505 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: a responsible principle running things, they'd at least try to 506 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: save them. For people who are unfamiliar with the term, 507 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: when you say principle, you're talking about the guy, the 508 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: elected guy, the person who's supposed to be in charge, 509 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: the elected official, and it's just it's fundamentally different. I've 510 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: been a staffer, but it is fundamentally different when your 511 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: name is on the ballot, when you are the elected official, 512 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: when you've got the election certificate. There's just an awareness 513 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: of Okay, let's think through what the consequences are, what 514 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: the next steps are. Any president who was aware of 515 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: his surroundings would at least try to save this. The 516 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: fact that they're not, I think the children, the staffers 517 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: are running it, and they're just like, strew it, screw 518 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: it all the way, let's go on like we don't care, 519 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: let's ram everything through. And oh well, if we lose 520 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: the House and Senate Cowboy hats On ride the bomb 521 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: all the way down, that is very scary. Well really, 522 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: I guess scary for them, it's wonderful news for conservatives. 523 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: We don't always get wins, especially when conservatives raut of power, 524 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: but there have been a lot of wins. Congratulations on 525 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: your court win, Senator, thank you all right, and before 526 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: I go, you have more to talk about. We've got 527 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: our wonderful show the Cloakroom with Liz Wheeler. Liz, what 528 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: are you guys going to talk about? Hi, Michael High, Senator, Yes, 529 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: we have a fascinating topic that we're discussing on cloak 530 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: Room today. So, in the wake of Nina Jenkowitz and 531 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: the Disinformation Governance Board coming down from the Biden administration, 532 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: there's this idea on the left that there's limits on 533 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: free speech, and they always use this phrase you're not 534 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: allowed to yell fire in a crowded theater as their 535 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: justification as the precedent that they point to for these 536 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 1: limits on free speech. And we are going to examine 537 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: the actual history of that phrase and whether or not 538 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: it actually does impose limits on free speech. You can 539 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: join us on Cloakroom if you go to Verdict with 540 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: Ted Cruise dot com slash Plus. It's for Verdict Plus 541 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: subscribers only. Verdict with Tedcruise dot Com slash Plus. If 542 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: you use my access code, which of course is Cloakroom. 543 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: You can get your first month free on your annual 544 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: subscription Verdict with Ted Cruise dot com slash Plus. Make 545 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: sure to go check out the Cloakroom. It's going to 546 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. Until next time. 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