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Speaker 1: we got a great show today. We got Peter King
Speaker 1: a little double dose of mm QB because we also
Speaker 1: ended things with Albert Breer and we'll get to those
Speaker 1: a little later. That was a special treat. How about
Speaker 1: how about Peter He was at the facility, he was
Speaker 1: he was great, came to the studio and he did
Speaker 1: a podcast with Josh McCown I want to listen to that,
Speaker 1: So you gotta give him some props for that. He
Speaker 1: said he really wanted to do one with mccownity. He's
Speaker 1: wanted to do one for a long time. He's a
Speaker 1: big podcast guy. He's uh, I am as wolf. He uh,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll make it three I am as
Speaker 1: well too. You can tell that Peter like the podcast
Speaker 1: platform per se and I think people enjoy it, and
Speaker 1: you know it's great for commuters. So I know, I
Speaker 1: know you're you're like a ten minute commute. I'm more
Speaker 1: like a fifty minute So a podcast get me through
Speaker 1: the week, So big fans. Yeah, and I hope people
Speaker 1: are loving this podcast. I think we're off to a
Speaker 1: great start. Props to our producer in the back jack Listen. Uh,
Speaker 1: like you said, we have a tremendous show in store
Speaker 1: for you this week. Before we dive in to this
Speaker 1: week's matchup, let's talk about last week as we always do.
Speaker 1: Jets now on a three game winning streak three and two.
Speaker 1: Take down the Cleveland Browns in Cleveland at the Dog Pound,
Speaker 1: another not so pretty win, to say the least, a
Speaker 1: gritty win. What did you take away from last week's
Speaker 1: game that was different than the Jaguars game? Well, that's
Speaker 1: just the word, Greens. This team continues to find different
Speaker 1: ways to win. A wire to wire domination of Miami
Speaker 1: Daniel Squander, or fourth quarter lead against Jacksonville. You come
Speaker 1: back in overtime, you make it happen with Chandler Canton zero.
Speaker 1: They played emotional in front of her home crowd, Greg
Speaker 1: Williams and a nice defensive game plan against Josh McCown
Speaker 1: and company. When the Jets scuffled offensively early, but the
Speaker 1: defense picked them up. Entering Week five, they had four
Speaker 1: takeaways against the Browns, they had three takeaways, they had
Speaker 1: three stops inside their own ten yard line. You're thinking
Speaker 1: about Marcus May's interception, Freddie Bishops uh fumble, recovery of
Speaker 1: a force lateral from a rookie quarterback into Shawn Kaiser,
Speaker 1: and then also tomorrow Davis making a heck of a
Speaker 1: play on fourth down that proceeds a ninety seven yard
Speaker 1: drive and McCown got going late two touchdown passes. So listen,
Speaker 1: wasn't pretty, don't matter and still win. Something Josh McCown
Speaker 1: said was that the office didn't play well consistently, but
Speaker 1: the offense played well when the team needed it most.
Speaker 1: Here we are with the A four mentioned Peter King
Speaker 1: at Monday morning quarterback, thank you so much for joining
Speaker 1: us in studio. So this is a special treat for myself, Anita,
Speaker 1: it's good to be here, guys, and uh, it's good
Speaker 1: to be here. You know, I thought if I came
Speaker 1: out to the Jets this year would be too to
Speaker 1: discuss some sort of black cloud, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was talking to Todd Bowles after the win in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: and I said, Okay, I'm gonna give you all. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you whatever shot you want to take, go ahead,
Speaker 1: take and take a shot at all must geniuses who
Speaker 1: uh basically we're you know, I thought, you go two
Speaker 1: and fourteen, three and thirteen, and he goes, oh, it's early.
Speaker 1: And he did not want to participate in that at all,
Speaker 1: you know, because I think he knows two things. Vengeance
Speaker 1: can't help you in this game, really, no matter how
Speaker 1: you feel personally. But I think the other part of
Speaker 1: it is he knows how fine a line it is.
Speaker 1: You know, the NFL is amazing week to week you watch,
Speaker 1: I mean, I I often think that that's so often
Speaker 1: the team that wins on Sunday is the you know,
Speaker 1: is just an incredible team and they're the they're the
Speaker 1: champs there that they're everything, and the vanquished they stink,
Speaker 1: they're no good. And yet you watch a game like
Speaker 1: Atlanta in Detroit, we're golden Tate ends up about seven
Speaker 1: inches from breaking the plane when his knee hits the
Speaker 1: ground and he's seven minutes away, seven inches away, and
Speaker 1: that decides that could well decide whether Detroit Lions or
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons go to the playoffs. Just yeah, so, but anyway,
Speaker 1: I think I Todd Bowles, I I'm I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: an admirer of the of the job that he does. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I think in the NFL today, when you don't
Speaker 1: have a really good long term quarterback, it's an I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a battle every week anyway, but when you don't
Speaker 1: have that guy, it becomes even more of a battle.
Speaker 1: And that's why I think, I mean, I think having
Speaker 1: Josh McCown here this year has really been a huge
Speaker 1: help to this team because he he studies the ship
Speaker 1: when it needed to be steadied, you know. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're actually here at the complex because you're gonna be
Speaker 1: talking to Josh on your podcast. Yeah. Yeah, I I've
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to record him. I've been doing this
Speaker 1: for two years and I've always really wanted to record
Speaker 1: him because I think he has one of the most
Speaker 1: unique careers in recent NFL history. Um. I think it
Speaker 1: was now six years ago he was on the Hartford
Speaker 1: Colonials of the United Football League and after he finished there,
Speaker 1: that was that might have been it. You know. Okay,
Speaker 1: now you know families in Charlotte, Um, that's where We're
Speaker 1: going to be no matter where I am. But you know,
Speaker 1: maybe it's maybe it's over, and and you know, I've
Speaker 1: had a great time. I've been with a bunch of
Speaker 1: good teams, had a lot of enjoyment. But maybe it's over.
Speaker 1: And I honestly think that, you know, if it was over,
Speaker 1: and if he was coaching high school football now at
Speaker 1: whatever high school in Charlotte, he'd love life very nearly
Speaker 1: the same way that he loves life right now. And
Speaker 1: I know people say, well, geez, how could you say that,
Speaker 1: you know, the NFL and everything, Because Josh McCown is
Speaker 1: the kind of guy you'd be happy doing whatever he's doing.
Speaker 1: He's so honest for humility. I know the press have
Speaker 1: loved him ever since he entered the National Football League
Speaker 1: and to thousand two Greens and I talked about it
Speaker 1: all the time. He's the only remaining quarterback left in
Speaker 1: the two thousand to draft class. This is a fifteen season,
Speaker 1: and he just won three straight games for the first time.
Speaker 1: I love that stat. That is so hilarious. And the
Speaker 1: I didn't realize this until whose column did I read?
Speaker 1: It might have been Brian Costello. I forget George Willis.
Speaker 1: I think George Willis wrote and I didn't know he
Speaker 1: had never won the starting quarterback in the Brown Stadium.
Speaker 1: I would have thought he would have won five. You know.
Speaker 1: Then I started to I had a great stat. I
Speaker 1: had a stat in Monday Morning Quarterback Today, uh where
Speaker 1: I said, in their last forty nine games, the Cleveland
Speaker 1: Indians are forty and nine. In their last forty nine games,
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns are nine and forty. So maybe that
Speaker 1: explains why Josh McCown didn't have didn't have any home
Speaker 1: wins there. You know. So, Peter, something that you've touched about.
Speaker 1: You wrote about it that coach Bowls was your coach
Speaker 1: of the week, and you talked about that you admire
Speaker 1: the job that he does. Just if you could elaborate
Speaker 1: a little bit more on why you chose him as
Speaker 1: your coach of the week. You know, I kind of
Speaker 1: look at a lot of times I give those awards,
Speaker 1: and you know, I remember one year when I was
Speaker 1: doing this, somebody said, oh my god, Peyton Manning through
Speaker 1: for four and eight yards and four touchdowns. He had
Speaker 1: a perfect quarterback rating. I said, I could give Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning the Offensive Player of the Week. Every week. I mean,
Speaker 1: what good does that do? I mean, and I said,
Speaker 1: this is not exactly official, this is just what I
Speaker 1: want to do, and a guy who I think does
Speaker 1: a good job. Here's the reason why I think Todd
Speaker 1: Bowles first of all, the reason why I think Todd
Speaker 1: Bowles is not only a good coach period, but he's
Speaker 1: a good coach for this team at this time. Very
Speaker 1: simple and like I've always felt like, and I think
Speaker 1: it helps him having grown up in this area, he
Speaker 1: understands the kind of screwy mayhem there is around a
Speaker 1: New York team. Okay, it's you know, when I used
Speaker 1: to cover the Giants, Parcels would walk into a press conference.
Speaker 1: This is in the eighties. Obviously, he walked into a
Speaker 1: press conference and he'd say, alright, you subversives, what is
Speaker 1: it today? Eu fourie or disaster? You know? And I think,
Speaker 1: having having been around Parcels and having seen sort of
Speaker 1: that sardonic way, I think that Todd Bowls can look
Speaker 1: at it and basically say, hey, listen, you know I've
Speaker 1: I've lived in New York forever, Okay, in the area forever.
Speaker 1: I know everything about it. I know the pressures, I
Speaker 1: know the If you win, uh, you're going down the
Speaker 1: avenue of the of of of of heroes. If you lose,
Speaker 1: you're a bum. You're gonna get fired. I'll never forget
Speaker 1: the day that Eric Mangini got fired. And it was
Speaker 1: and I think it was the Post. It might have
Speaker 1: been the daily news the next day showed Eric Mangini
Speaker 1: walking out the door and they said, hey, coach, don't
Speaker 1: let it hit you on the way out, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying to myself, man, what a what a place?
Speaker 1: You know, what a place. It's a tough spot. But
Speaker 1: like you said, he is a guy who just remained
Speaker 1: study whether he's winning or losing. And and if if
Speaker 1: I think he has the ability to stand up in
Speaker 1: front of these guys and to basically say hey, here's
Speaker 1: the way it is, and everybody trusts him. When he
Speaker 1: was with the Arizona Cardinals, I remember I knew a
Speaker 1: lot of guys on that team and one of the
Speaker 1: reasons I like when his name would come up and
Speaker 1: coaching interviews, I would always say, this guy is gonna
Speaker 1: be a good head coach for this reason. He's really
Speaker 1: imaginative on defense. He's the guy who basically got the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals to take all those you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a different time now, but like the day on Buchanan,
Speaker 1: you know, Tyrone Matthew, guys play him down in the box.
Speaker 1: Haven't be basically linebackers for you, So I mean he
Speaker 1: is not. He doesn't say, well, okay, um, let's bring
Speaker 1: in a practice squad linebacker because he weighs two forty
Speaker 1: two instead of let's take a safety who weighs to nineteen.
Speaker 1: But and and if we play the two two pound guy,
Speaker 1: then that safety, who's really a good player, is not
Speaker 1: going to be playing. Why would we do that. Let's
Speaker 1: take the really let's get as many really good players
Speaker 1: to be in the game at the same time. And
Speaker 1: I think he is just one of these common sense
Speaker 1: guys who doesn't really allow himself to view um, to
Speaker 1: view a situation like this as like if you were
Speaker 1: looking at this situation before the year, you know, Letting
Speaker 1: Decker go, letting David Harris go, Mangolds gone, all these
Speaker 1: other things, Brandon Marshall's gone, all these guys who you
Speaker 1: think either are going to be good somewhere else or
Speaker 1: I don't know how you're going to replace him. He's
Speaker 1: never one who who will think that way. He's just
Speaker 1: going to think, how am I going to win this Sunday?
Speaker 1: You know. And and it's kind of strange to say
Speaker 1: this because like, I don't think the Jets will beat
Speaker 1: the Patriots this week, but I think the Jets have
Speaker 1: turned into the intriguing kind of team that whoever plays him.
Speaker 1: And he told me this yesterday. He goes, if we
Speaker 1: just control our penalties, will play with anybody in this
Speaker 1: and he knows that he will because what happens, at
Speaker 1: least in my mind, with this team. And I saw
Speaker 1: him in Week two at Oakland and I just thought,
Speaker 1: if their defense doesn't play well, they can't win. I mean,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say they can't win. It's gonna be very
Speaker 1: very hard for them to win. But I think that game,
Speaker 1: to me now, when you look back, was an aberration,
Speaker 1: you know, the Oakland game, because their defense is pretty good.
Speaker 1: Their safeties and the young safeties I think are pretty
Speaker 1: You mentioned a defensive personnel and when immediate climbs immediately
Speaker 1: comes to mind for me, is Jamal Adams. You said
Speaker 1: playing an extra guy in a box. Well, Jamal obviously
Speaker 1: can plain it back as well, but you can drop
Speaker 1: them down. It's like having an extra linebacker down there.
Speaker 1: And you know, since you've been covering this forever, is
Speaker 1: that Todd is so imaginative as a play caller on defense,
Speaker 1: using multiple safety packages sometimes now the judgmenties and four
Speaker 1: safeties on the field. They got Marcus may back there.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's impressed early on. Terrence Brooks was a
Speaker 1: late acquisition. Mike mccagnet traded for him here at the
Speaker 1: end the training camp, and then Ronts Miles as well,
Speaker 1: So you know that Todd is shifting the pieces of round. See.
Speaker 1: I think the coaches that can do well in today's
Speaker 1: football are the coaches who can figure out a way
Speaker 1: to take their best eleven players and figure out a
Speaker 1: way to get all them on the field in some combination.
Speaker 1: And like I thought, one of the things that like,
Speaker 1: I really like what the Carolina Panthers did in the
Speaker 1: off season getting Christian McCaffrey and Curtis Samuel because it
Speaker 1: allows them to do I thought they had an incredible
Speaker 1: play McCaffrey's first touchdown in the NFL. They had an
Speaker 1: incredible play because they faked a jet sweep to Curtis
Speaker 1: Samuel and drew the attention to the other side of
Speaker 1: the field, then then ran to the left side of
Speaker 1: the field in what looked to be a read option.
Speaker 1: And on this read option you have either Jonathan Stewart,
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, nobody even sees Christian McCaffrey, and at the
Speaker 1: last possible second they just flip it to McCaffrey. What
Speaker 1: I mean is that one of the reasons why coaches
Speaker 1: like you know, Todd Bowles, and I think that now
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh. One of the reasons why Sean McVeigh is
Speaker 1: succeeding now in my opinion, is that he basically does
Speaker 1: so many disguise packages and people just simply the you
Speaker 1: line up and you say, I'm going to see something
Speaker 1: on this play that I haven't seen before. Because okay,
Speaker 1: and this I'll we'll steer back to the Jets. But
Speaker 1: I just wanted to make one of their points. Yesterday
Speaker 1: Sunday in the games, Davante Adams scored the winning touchdown
Speaker 1: against Dallas. And there's very few teams where a guy
Speaker 1: can come back to the huddle after one play fails
Speaker 1: and say to the quarterback, hey, run that exact play again.
Speaker 1: I know we can make it. And if you have
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, he has the confidence that he's gonna do it.
Speaker 1: And in those situations, Aaron Rodgers has some freedom depending
Speaker 1: on what play is called. So he told Adams, did
Speaker 1: the same thing again, and he Adams did the exact
Speaker 1: same thing, and this time the ball was right there.
Speaker 1: He caught it, touchdown and the game. My point is
Speaker 1: not everybody has that kind of quarterback, so you have
Speaker 1: to capitalize on the imagination things that some of these
Speaker 1: coaches do. This is the great Peter King on One
Speaker 1: Day Morning Quarterback joining myself and Ethan Greenburg in studio.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the Patriots before. What's the formula for the
Speaker 1: Jets in week week six action? Here is they go
Speaker 1: in there in a three game winning straight playing the
Speaker 1: division uh division opponent. I lost their first division game
Speaker 1: against the Buffalo Bells. But New England will be in
Speaker 1: here and I would imagine the fans are gonna turn
Speaker 1: out and it's gonna be a festive atmosphere. In my life, Daniel,
Speaker 1: I think there's two things. Number one, be physical with
Speaker 1: the receivers. Um Gronkowski probably plays. Be physical with him,
Speaker 1: you know, hit him in the bump. Zone. Um, and
Speaker 1: when you can, you gotta hit Brady because in my opinion,
Speaker 1: Brady with time, he's more dangerous than any quarterback in
Speaker 1: football with time because he has so much confidence in
Speaker 1: throwing the ball into very small windows. You get four
Speaker 1: receivers out in the past pattern in the past sort,
Speaker 1: he's gonna find somebody at you know, if you give
Speaker 1: him three to three and a half seconds, So you
Speaker 1: want to disrupt his timing. And then I think on
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball, I heard every all
Speaker 1: the stuff before last week the Patriots defenses in crisis,
Speaker 1: but I really think it was more communication than anything else. Um,
Speaker 1: because Stefan Gilmour was making a huge number of mental errors.
Speaker 1: He's I think the Patriots vastly overpaid Stefen Gilmore, But um,
Speaker 1: he's a good player. And I just think that McCown
Speaker 1: right now, there's there's something you know when you look
Speaker 1: at Josh McCown. I think one of the things that
Speaker 1: if you're if you look at a quality of a
Speaker 1: quarterback that no matter what his receiver group is like whatever,
Speaker 1: if you're an accurate passer, then you can take new
Speaker 1: guys who you haven't worked with all that much and
Speaker 1: you can say that Germaine curse. You be there on
Speaker 1: a twelve yard out. If you're there, the ball is
Speaker 1: going to be there. If you're there, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: a completion. Are curly? Yeah, And so my feeling is
Speaker 1: that right now, I think that that is the way
Speaker 1: to try to beat the Patriots. The other thing is
Speaker 1: keep the clock moving. Um. A couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: last week whenever it was when when Buffalo won in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: You know, after the game, I was talking to some
Speaker 1: people with the Bills and and they said all week
Speaker 1: it was, you know, keep the ball away from Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1: And so the Bills in that game had a nineteen play,
Speaker 1: eleven minute and twenty second drive and so they got
Speaker 1: they got a field goal, which you know, they obviously
Speaker 1: they wanted seven points instead of three, but they were
Speaker 1: deliriously happy because that's one less drive. I don't even
Speaker 1: know how many drives the Falcons had, maybe ten or eleven,
Speaker 1: but without that long drive they would have had another one.
Speaker 1: And I think part of this game for the Jets,
Speaker 1: if if you could limit Brady to nine possessions in
Speaker 1: this game, I think the Jets have a real chance.
Speaker 1: What long drives are the key. We wish we had
Speaker 1: time for another quarter with you, but you gotta go visit,
Speaker 1: uh Josh McCown, and uh we'll continue reading you and
Speaker 1: following you on I'm QB dot com. And I just
Speaker 1: quickly wanted to ask you you didn't do a game
Speaker 1: story week one, you chose to do a podcast. How
Speaker 1: much you enjoying this platform? And where what's the store
Speaker 1: in the future? Jesus, You know what. I We have
Speaker 1: a lot of young people on my staff, on our staff,
Speaker 1: and I say to them all the time, um do
Speaker 1: everything because you have no idea where this business is going.
Speaker 1: And my whole thing is I enjoy doing this stuff.
Speaker 1: I I there aren't many places anymore where you can
Speaker 1: hear conversations. And you know what, We're not going to
Speaker 1: break the ratings record for the Josh McCown podcast. We won't,
Speaker 1: but I will really enjoy it because I mean I've
Speaker 1: talked to him, not many of several times, and that
Speaker 1: I know that a conversation with him that if you're
Speaker 1: a football fan, you will listen to it and he'll say, Man,
Speaker 1: I'd love to get to know that guy. And that's
Speaker 1: what I try to do with these things, because I
Speaker 1: think everything is done, everything, every everything that people concentrate
Speaker 1: on is in the hundred and forty character take, you know,
Speaker 1: or now two character whatever Twitter is. But do I
Speaker 1: have one forty? Um, I don't even know how to
Speaker 1: get to two? Eight? You know what I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to eight. You know why I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, when I see those long tweets,
Speaker 1: I say, oh, this is crap. I want you know,
Speaker 1: there's something great about just the snippet, you know. But
Speaker 1: but anyway, my point is I love having the ability
Speaker 1: to be able to have a conversation just like you're sitting,
Speaker 1: just like we're down, you know, if we were doing
Speaker 1: something that had to be done. Okay, you got two
Speaker 1: and a half minutes, blah blah blah. And look, I
Speaker 1: do TV. I've done a lot of TV, and I
Speaker 1: understand the brevity and the quality of brevity and two
Speaker 1: and a half minutes, and I like it. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: But I also like the fact that, you know, shoot,
Speaker 1: I said, I did a seventy six minute podcast with
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Is the first time I've ever heard him
Speaker 1: not sound like press conference Tom and that to me
Speaker 1: is the in this medium really makes it worthwhile because
Speaker 1: I think it allows you to really kind of get
Speaker 1: to know a person rather than to get to know
Speaker 1: the real person rather than the sound bite dish person.
Speaker 1: Well said Peter. We thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: We're gonna let you now get to that podcast with
Speaker 1: Josh mcconomand we look forward to listening to that and
Speaker 1: maybe in the future we can check back with you
Speaker 1: later this season because I'd love to get some thoughts
Speaker 1: on the Hall of Fame, Joe Cleco, Kevin Well, why
Speaker 1: we even We discussed that at length, and let's see
Speaker 1: if the Jets can continue to surpre us. Sounds good,
Speaker 1: Thanks all for having you guys. All right, Green's good
Speaker 1: stuff there from p K. I always read that Monday
Speaker 1: Morning a Quarterback Calm. It's a long one, but he's
Speaker 1: got so much information in there, and he did have
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles as his head coach of the week. One
Speaker 1: thing I took away when we're previewing this matchup Jets
Speaker 1: Patriots here in week six is Peter said something very
Speaker 1: interesting about the Bills going to Atlanta and taking down
Speaker 1: that high powered attack. Is they we're able to hold
Speaker 1: out the football with time possession. They had a drive
Speaker 1: of over eleven minutes. And for the Jets, if they
Speaker 1: can hold onto the football, that means number twelve is
Speaker 1: on the sideline. Um, if you can shorten the game
Speaker 1: possession wise, I think that works to your Advan, because
Speaker 1: last week against Cleveland you come up with the three takeaways.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's got one interception. You know, last year I
Speaker 1: think he might have had five. He doesn't turn the
Speaker 1: football over. The one stat that really jumps out to
Speaker 1: you about the Patriots so far this season, no, is
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady has been sacked sixteen times. It's one
Speaker 1: more than all the last season. So maybe the Jets
Speaker 1: can manufacture some pressure when they are on the field defensively. Also,
Speaker 1: just to add on that is the less time tom
Speaker 1: Brady has to operate, the less points of Patriots and score,
Speaker 1: and they can put up a lot of points if
Speaker 1: you let them. They leave the league in total offense
Speaker 1: where they third in the NFL and scoring right now
Speaker 1: to like twenty nine points a game. So Brady has
Speaker 1: already passed for what yards? Yes, So the more Hannah weapons,
Speaker 1: Danny Amadola, you look at their backfield, Dion Lewis, James White,
Speaker 1: who leads the team in receptions. You know these line
Speaker 1: actors this week to Mario Davis playing a really high level.
Speaker 1: There only that he went back to Ohio this week,
Speaker 1: had a good game. They're gonna be in focus this
Speaker 1: week against those guys coming out of the backfield. Gronkowski
Speaker 1: didn't play against Tampa, He's likely to play against the Jets.
Speaker 1: And then Brandon Cooks gives you a new dimension as
Speaker 1: far as speed and things like that. So, uh, listen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this offense is they have options to say, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they do. They do. But the Jets defense has been developing.
Speaker 1: They were left for dead frankly when we left Oakland
Speaker 1: and took that cross the country trip home, but did
Speaker 1: a great job against Miami. Really how Jacks developed bay
Speaker 1: most of that game after an opening drive, and then
Speaker 1: last week they carried the team from most of the
Speaker 1: sixty minutes in Cleveland. I'm very curious to see who
Speaker 1: lines up on Rob Gronkowski. We talked about this earlier
Speaker 1: in the weeks that you would mean, but you know,
Speaker 1: is it Jamal Adams, is it is it Darren Ly?
Speaker 1: Is it a combination of the two because Darren might
Speaker 1: be bigger, but Jamal is faster. So I'm very curious
Speaker 1: to see how coach Bowls deploys his safeties. And you
Speaker 1: got Marcus May out there too, And you're right about
Speaker 1: deploying the safeties because the Jets, as we continue to
Speaker 1: note every week, are playing three safeties at times, four
Speaker 1: safeties at other times, so you know you're gonna want
Speaker 1: to get a lot of athletes out there on the field.
Speaker 1: And that was a great interception by May last week.
Speaker 1: But again, the chances that happened against Brady are a
Speaker 1: little bit less likely because he's not gonna focus in
Speaker 1: on a on a player with his eyes and uh,
Speaker 1: very few times does he turn the football over. You
Speaker 1: gotta be sure tackling. Are you sure tacklers against the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I'm pumped for this game though it's a you know,
Speaker 1: my life stage should be hopping. Make sure to subscribe
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Speaker 1: QB's Albert Breer. Albert, thanks so much for joining us
Speaker 1: on the Official Jet Podcast game preview Jets Patriots this weekend.
Speaker 1: The Patriots were a team in the offseason that many
Speaker 1: thought had improved well. Right now in a three way
Speaker 1: tie for the a f C East along with the
Speaker 1: Jets and Bills. Just what's been your initial impressions of
Speaker 1: the Patriots team this year. Well, you know, I certainly
Speaker 1: think that we probably got ahead of ourselves with the expectations,
Speaker 1: and I'm guilty as anybody of that. And I think
Speaker 1: the main thing I was looking at coming into the
Speaker 1: year was, um, you know that I've never seen the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion ad an offensive piece like Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: and the defensive piece like Stefan Gilmore. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: I think you kind of work onto the assumption that
Speaker 1: those are gonna work out because of the you know,
Speaker 1: profile of those players, and um, you know, Cooks has
Speaker 1: been all right, Gilmore has been really up and down. Um.
Speaker 1: And in the meantime there the front seven has has
Speaker 1: had its issues. Um and um, the seconds taking some
Speaker 1: time to come together, you know, And I think ultimately, uh,
Speaker 1: the offense will be fine. And the offense for the
Speaker 1: most part, on balance, has been Tom Brady has been
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. He's taking it to a few more hits
Speaker 1: than they would have liked, but um, you know, I
Speaker 1: think you know that when you're talking a long game here,
Speaker 1: the offense will be okay. Um, The questions for them now,
Speaker 1: I think coming out of the first five games is
Speaker 1: whether or not the defense will be good enough in
Speaker 1: the long run. And you know, it's I mean, I
Speaker 1: look with them, it's it's different. The standards just different.
Speaker 1: The bar is a little higher. So and we're not
Speaker 1: talking about whether or not they're gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I think it's more are they going to be in
Speaker 1: a divisional round the championship game or are they gonna
Speaker 1: win the whole thing? You know? And and and these
Speaker 1: are the things that I think when you look at
Speaker 1: it could prevent them from winning another championship. You know,
Speaker 1: you look at whether or not the secondary is what
Speaker 1: they have paid for it to be, and then whether
Speaker 1: or not this front seven can be even average. Um,
Speaker 1: those are the big questions facing them now. Is they
Speaker 1: you know, as to get closer to the to the
Speaker 1: more critical parts of the season. Conversely, what do you
Speaker 1: think of the Jets so far? Obviously opened the season
Speaker 1: oh and two, then a wire to wire victory over
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins and their home opener, and then they
Speaker 1: found a way to win against Jacksonville game they squandered
Speaker 1: a ten point leading the fourth quarter, but one and overtime.
Speaker 1: And then they go to Cleveland and it was at
Speaker 1: times and not a pretty evolved game, but they found
Speaker 1: a way to win, largely largely because the defense comes
Speaker 1: up with three takeaways, they have a fourth down stop,
Speaker 1: and Josh McCown gets the offense moving late. So now
Speaker 1: here they are entering week six on a three game
Speaker 1: winning streak. Yeah, I don't think anybody would have guessed,
Speaker 1: um that you know, in the middle of October, they'd
Speaker 1: be sitting there, tied with the Patriots for first in
Speaker 1: the division, tied with Buffalo for first the division. That's
Speaker 1: where we are. You know. The thing that it sort
Speaker 1: of sticks out to me is, um, you know how
Speaker 1: a lot of this things that they did in March
Speaker 1: and April UM wound up being proven correct, you know.
Speaker 1: And I know there are a lot of people who
Speaker 1: felt like they were tanking. And look, I don't think
Speaker 1: there's any question that they were stripping down the operation
Speaker 1: and they were trying to turn the page on the
Speaker 1: previous era. Um. You know, But but you look at
Speaker 1: what's happened to the players who have left. I mean
Speaker 1: Rev's isn't on a team, Mangles not on a team.
Speaker 1: Bryan Claydy is retired, Um Decker and Marshall Um have
Speaker 1: been just average in their new spots, and now Marshall
Speaker 1: has hurt David Harris for the healthy scratch um for
Speaker 1: the Patriots last week. You go up and down and
Speaker 1: you see the guys that got rid of and those
Speaker 1: guys are doing almost nothing elsewhere. And then you look
Speaker 1: at the guys they brought men, and I think primarily,
Speaker 1: you know, you look at a guy like a you know,
Speaker 1: a Jermaine Curse who um comes in the trade for
Speaker 1: Sheldon Richardson, and you know he is producing for them,
Speaker 1: and so um, you know, you look at that. And
Speaker 1: then he added to the rookies they I didn't obviously
Speaker 1: think very highly. It's small Adams and Marcus May and
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think this is gonna I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a nine and seven or tenant
Speaker 1: six team or anything like that. But I certainly think
Speaker 1: through five games, you can see where a lot of
Speaker 1: the decision making, the logic of the decision making has
Speaker 1: become clear, and at the very least, I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're down there in New York, you
Speaker 1: can trust that that it looks like the operations headed
Speaker 1: in the right direction, whether or not that holds up
Speaker 1: long term. Who you know they've got, They've got some
Speaker 1: good young players there now and certainly it looks like
Speaker 1: they moved on from the older players at the right time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you like what mcagnant has done over the past
Speaker 1: few months. You mentioned obviously Adams and May. It starts
Speaker 1: there with the drafting, but then some of these late acquisitions.
Speaker 1: Um you mentioned curse with Son Sheldon Richardson. They get
Speaker 1: cursed back from Seattle and a second round pick. Jeremy
Speaker 1: Curley was on the stre he had sixty four receptions
Speaker 1: last year in San Francisco. He's coming here made an
Speaker 1: instant impact. They trade for a guy uh from Philly
Speaker 1: and Terrence Brooks who's come in here and fit in
Speaker 1: nicely with the other two safeties. Actually has a pair
Speaker 1: of interceptions. Cony Eale a late pick up as well.
Speaker 1: David Bass, a guy from Seattle, is coming in. He's
Speaker 1: got the two sacks, So not only a drafted and
Speaker 1: what do you think about all these late acquisitions, Well,
Speaker 1: it's something you've had to do, you know. I think
Speaker 1: especially when you look at the timing of the Harris
Speaker 1: move and the Decker move, UM, and put them in
Speaker 1: a tough spot from a roster standpoint, because you know,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna build a team of all first and
Speaker 1: second year players and so um, they've had to be
Speaker 1: creative with that. And again, I think bringing in a
Speaker 1: guy like to me, you know, I think part of
Speaker 1: the reason why he trade Sheldon. I think Sheldon's got
Speaker 1: potential to be one of the top five or six
Speaker 1: defensive lineman in the league if he ever puts it
Speaker 1: all together. I think one of the reasons why you
Speaker 1: get rid of Sheldon, um is because you knew that
Speaker 1: that there we're gonna be bumps this year, and the
Speaker 1: idea of having both Mo and Sheldon on the roster
Speaker 1: as the elder states, and it was kind of scary.
Speaker 1: You know that that that maybe that's not you know,
Speaker 1: the type of position that you want to either of
Speaker 1: those guys in, and so you know, you see, you
Speaker 1: see what you can get for each of them. Um.
Speaker 1: I think Sheldon was clearly the more tradeable commodity, and
Speaker 1: I liked how they took into account what kind of
Speaker 1: leader Jermaine Curse was in Seattle, because not only are
Speaker 1: you getting production from him, now, you're also putting him
Speaker 1: in the locker room. And he's one of the older guys,
Speaker 1: and um, you know, he's really kind of a guy
Speaker 1: who the offensive players can look to and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the type of guy we're gonna look up to,
Speaker 1: and this is the type of guy that we're going
Speaker 1: to emulate, you know, and UNDEFENSI, you've got some younger
Speaker 1: guys who are capable of doing that. All right, Albert,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us on the official
Speaker 1: JEZZ podcast game preview. You got a guy, all right.
Speaker 1: That was Albert Brier. Another phenomen interview. They're giving big
Speaker 1: kudos to Mike mccagnet, the general manager of the New
Speaker 1: York Jets, and the entire Jets personnel. Do you think
Speaker 1: that this Sunday is a litmus test? I asked about
Speaker 1: the defense, but I guess more about the team in general,
Speaker 1: because you know, it takes a couple of weeks to
Speaker 1: get things flowing, to get chemistry building, and everyone points
Speaker 1: to halftime in Oakland saying that's when the ship has
Speaker 1: turned for the New York Jets. So do you think
Speaker 1: this Sunday serves as a barrometer? It's a good question.
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say is that this is the sixth
Speaker 1: game of the season. Win or lose, you're either gonna
Speaker 1: be four and two or three and three. A lot
Speaker 1: of football left to be played New England, on the
Speaker 1: other hand, because a team, while Todd Bowles is accurate
Speaker 1: on this one, kings in the division until somebody knocks
Speaker 1: them off the ladder. They are the kings of the division.
Speaker 1: The Jets have been clear about that this week. Um,
Speaker 1: they haven't. Actually, I think if you talk, if you're
Speaker 1: in their locker room and you're listening to Bill Belijack
Speaker 1: in company, they don't consider themselves to finished product here
Speaker 1: early in the season either. So are you gonna find
Speaker 1: out a little bit more about the Jets this week? Certainly?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's different going up playing against
Speaker 1: the team that's been an NFL powerhouse for seventeen years
Speaker 1: or so, since Tom Brady took over in two thousand one.
Speaker 1: Uh And that's no shot at Cleveland or Jacksonville or Miami.
Speaker 1: Miami was a playoff team last season. But yeah, this
Speaker 1: this is a great test for the Jets. But win
Speaker 1: or lose, Greens ten games to go, you know, and
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles is taking the proper approach this week that
Speaker 1: you know it is a big game because it's in
Speaker 1: the next game. I know fans don't like that means
Speaker 1: a little bit different for it means a little bit
Speaker 1: of more stakes for people who are tailgate and they're
Speaker 1: coming in the MetLife Stadium and they're ready to take
Speaker 1: down the Patriots and believe that Jets the players want
Speaker 1: to win this game, but they want to win every week.
Speaker 1: So is it a great test? It is a phenomenal
Speaker 1: test for this defense. Yes, this is the most Oakland's
Speaker 1: offense is good. I would say New England's offense is
Speaker 1: better than the Raiders offense. So through six games, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the best offense the Jets that based on
Speaker 1: the other side of the wall, while the Patriots stats
Speaker 1: haven't been there. What you want to see from the
Speaker 1: Jets offense. The test is you mentioned the Greens. Can
Speaker 1: they start fast? They have to start fast this week.
Speaker 1: And something that Jeremy Curly said is I spoke to
Speaker 1: him in the locker room this week, he said that
Speaker 1: the home crowd really does help the team get motivated
Speaker 1: try to start faster because the crowd is something that's
Speaker 1: almost like the pulse of a team. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's if that made sense to you, but if
Speaker 1: the craw if let's say that the team is stagnant
Speaker 1: to start, if the Jets a little stagnant and the
Speaker 1: crowd gets into it, that could energize the team to
Speaker 1: start to play faster. And I'm really excited for this
Speaker 1: Sunday and i think it will be the most festive
Speaker 1: atmosphere that we've seen so far. I met Life Stadium
Speaker 1: and before we head out here. On the Official Jets podcast,
Speaker 1: it's the staple question. I asked it every week and
Speaker 1: I'll ask it again. The single matchup that you're looking
Speaker 1: forward to this weekend, or a couple of players that
Speaker 1: you're pitting your hat on and saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: I think this person is going to do something because
Speaker 1: I'm saying this is one of your favorite Well, last
Speaker 1: week you told me that Marcus May was gonna get
Speaker 1: his first interception and it happened. Now saying you're a
Speaker 1: fortune teller, but so you were correctly you correctly predicted
Speaker 1: something last week, so I felt like I had to
Speaker 1: come back to it again. So I'm not taking the
Speaker 1: easy way out because I don't know what the game
Speaker 1: plans are downstairs. Because a lot of people would think, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: this guy's mansing up with this guy's guy's match up.
Speaker 1: You don't really know until the game on folds. The
Speaker 1: one thing that I do know, Greens is the Patriots,
Speaker 1: predominantly over the years, are a team that don't beat themselves. Now,
Speaker 1: they've had a lot of errors here early in the season.
Speaker 1: I watched that game against Tampa. You saw a couple
Speaker 1: of late hits and rough rough and the kicker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there are some things that very on patriot like.
Speaker 1: But with that being said, the Jets of Todd Bowles
Speaker 1: is happy about a lot of things going on here,
Speaker 1: and he should be, but he's taken steady approach because
Speaker 1: he knows there are things to clean up. And the
Speaker 1: one thing that the Jets can't do this week, they
Speaker 1: can't lose the turnover battle. And I'm looking at a
Speaker 1: yellow doorstop. You cannot have the number of flats the
Speaker 1: past three weeks, and that's something that really eats up
Speaker 1: at TB. He talked about it. Twenty seven penalties over
Speaker 1: the last three games they were able to win those
Speaker 1: three games. You get ton penalties against the Patriots and
Speaker 1: you lose the turnover paddle, you won't have a chance.
Speaker 1: With that being said, I expect the Jets to be
Speaker 1: in this game in the second half. I expect the
Speaker 1: atmosphere to be unbelievable. I'm also pumped up about the
Speaker 1: New York Jets and Atlantic Health System or partnering in
Speaker 1: the fight against pediatric cancer as part of the NFL
Speaker 1: and American Cancer Society's Crucial Catch Intercept Cancer campaign. So
Speaker 1: you know you'll be seeing that on Sunday, right. Just
Speaker 1: to clarify here, usually October is breast cancer Awareness month.
Speaker 1: The NFL has changed out his Crucial Cash so each
Speaker 1: team gets gets to choose what a cancer, whether it
Speaker 1: be breast cancer or in our case, pediatric cancer for
Speaker 1: the New York ches. Yeah, and then I read you
Speaker 1: know this, read a stat that's really hits home that
Speaker 1: between the ages of birth and fourteen or ten thousand
Speaker 1: new cancer cases involving kids each year, over ten thousand
Speaker 1: in the United States. So you know, whatever you can
Speaker 1: do if you're at home and position to help out
Speaker 1: here on Sunday, please do. And did you know that
Speaker 1: we have a player on this team that is a
Speaker 1: cancer survivor, Mike Panell, the actor cancer. Yeah. So they're
Speaker 1: big defensive tackle who's a house. You see him in
Speaker 1: a lot of short yardage situations and that's what we
Speaker 1: have here on the Official Jets Podcast. Game for you
Speaker 1: once again, Jets Patriots this Sunday, CBS one pm. Make
Speaker 1: sure to head out to Mattlife Stadium. Fer Eric Allen,
Speaker 1: I'm Ethan Greenberg. Ha