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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntire.

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Speaker 2: What is up, straight fam, It's me Jason McIntire, Straight

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Speaker 2: Fire for Wednesday, May the eighth, And we got a

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Speaker 2: rarity in the NBA last night. Huh two blowouts, two snoozers,

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Speaker 2: two games were five minutes left, it was time to

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Speaker 2: go get a snack. Boston blows out Cleveland. We'll get

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Speaker 2: to that briefly later, but I'll chew on this Okac

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Speaker 2: Dallas game. I don't mind being wrong. I like the MAVs.

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Speaker 2: I bet the MAVs. MAVs kind of got run over

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Speaker 2: there in the second half. I'm not gonna overreact to

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Speaker 2: the young, energetic, vibrant to Okac thunder kind of just

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Speaker 2: winning all the hustle stats, offensive rebound sixteen, Every loose

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Speaker 2: ball seemed to go to them. Dallas was sloppy. Dallas

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Speaker 2: came out lacking urgency. And we see this often home

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Speaker 2: team juiced up crowd. We saw this with Minnesota and

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Speaker 2: Phoenix last round Game one. The crowd is just fired up.

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Speaker 2: Close game, first half, second half, Minnesota blowout City. Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is the thing with young teams, and I think

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Speaker 2: young teams are going to start to be the focus

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Speaker 2: for a lot of sports talk this week as OKC

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Speaker 2: wins by twenty two over Luca and Kyrie. Luca and Kyrie,

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Speaker 2: by the way, had to combine nine turnovers. The OKC

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Speaker 2: Thunder had a team total of nine turnovers. Kyrie had

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Speaker 2: four in the first quarter. Not a great game from him.

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Speaker 2: Luca was futured, But the young teams are really the story.

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Speaker 2: Now Minnesota up to nothing. They're six to zero in

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Speaker 2: to zero in the playoffs. And I think everybody's going, oh,

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Speaker 2: changing of the guard, and that's like kind of a

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Speaker 2: narrativey thing, and I'm gonna push back on it a

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Speaker 2: little bit. First, I want to just dig into the MAVs. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't think this series is over. I think Minnesota

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Speaker 2: get to that for best bet later in the pod.

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Speaker 2: I definitely don't think that's over. Another Knicks injury that

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Speaker 2: of the pod. But MAVs Thunder again, I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to overreact, and I think this was expected of OKA. See,

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Speaker 2: they had a long layoff, they had a cakewalk first round.

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Speaker 2: They were all excited first second round game and OKC

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Speaker 2: since goodness, gracious, you know the RUSS KD pairing when

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Speaker 2: they I think it was against the Warriors right before

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant left because Paul George didn't take him in

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Speaker 2: the second round, that's for sure. And you could just

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Speaker 2: tell early on. Okac's game plan was simple. We got

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Speaker 2: to get to the line. We gotta draw fouls, and

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Speaker 2: they got a friendly home court whistle SG eight and

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Speaker 2: Okase shot twenty two free throws in the first half,

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Speaker 2: twenty two insane. So to help out in the second half,

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Speaker 2: they collapsed on the drives and that's when SGA mostly SGA,

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Speaker 2: but also Williams, the kid, Jalen Williams had a good game,

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Speaker 2: good well, good fourth quarter. They would drive and kick

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Speaker 2: and it's just splash City. Wiggins three for four from Deep,

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Speaker 2: for three from Deep. I have it in my notes here.

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Speaker 2: In the third quarter alone, Dallas had cut it to

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Speaker 2: and that's when they would collapse to help on the

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Speaker 2: SGA drives and guys are open for three. I think

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Speaker 2: they had his five straight threes and they hit six

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Speaker 2: let's let SGA eat in the mid range. Fine by me,

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Speaker 2: go ahead take your twos. That's fine. Take Derek Jones,

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Speaker 2: a very good athlete. I think Josh Green did okay

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Speaker 2: definitely cooked. But overall, I don't think this is panic

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Speaker 2: six for nineteen one of eight from three, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: can panic. Clutching the knee all game long. Not great,

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Speaker 2: But overall, I think it's pretty simple. You guys stay

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Speaker 2: as Alexander played a masterful game, very smart, cerebral player.

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Speaker 2: now zero to five in game ones under Jason Kidd.

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Speaker 2: Not great now. Dallas fans are all in my mentions

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Speaker 2: because you know, I'm riding the MAVs and Luca, and

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Speaker 2: have played more, Hardaway, should have played less Hardway had

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Speaker 2: a rough game his first game back from injury. Oh

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Speaker 2: four from deep. He was jacket. He's like me in

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Speaker 2: like a mensley game. He gets the ball and Hardaway.

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Speaker 2: I think took he got on the court and he

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Speaker 2: long night. So that would be my one concern. The

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Speaker 2: but I took a quick scan of every matchup. The

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Speaker 2: was in Indiana Pacers, and that you could put asterisks

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Speaker 2: by it because Damian Lilller got hurt and Giannis ever played.

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Speaker 2: But Bucks win game one lose the series. Other than that,

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Speaker 2: everyone else who won game one won the series. Now again, wait,

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Speaker 2: actually the Clippers won game one as well. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: the MAVs at home, and the MAVs came back and

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Speaker 2: won the series. When you've got Luka Dancic, you don't

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Speaker 2: You're not panicking about anything. He's that good. Now, he

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Speaker 2: hasn't been great in these playoffs. But I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's panic time for the Dallas Mavers now, Rob g

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say it's panic time either, but it's

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Speaker 3: there's definitely some silent alarms going off in Dallas. And

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Speaker 3: the biggest reason is something you pointed to quickly, and

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Speaker 3: in in game ones. I mean you mentioned Jason Kidd

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Speaker 3: five in game ones in his career. Last night, Obviously,

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Speaker 3: nineteen six and nine don't look terrible on their face,

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Speaker 3: And Tim Cato, who covers the team, put this out

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Speaker 3: late last night for the Athletic since that Game three

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Speaker 3: injury of his knee against the Clippers, Luca is shooting.

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Speaker 3: Let me get my math here, because I'm running in

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Speaker 3: suddenly forgot how to score. I don't think suddenly he

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Speaker 3: hell of a lot more than I think even I

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Speaker 3: expected coming into this series. I knew coming in that

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Speaker 3: he'd be able to at least be you know, eighty

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Speaker 3: Okac's defense, lou Dort and so on play with such

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Speaker 3: than what he already is. Because if Luka Doncic cannot

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Speaker 3: but even regular season version of Luca, then Dallas doesn't

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Speaker 3: is built specifically around his skill set, with Kyrie as

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Speaker 3: a complimentary piece. If Luka Doncic is gonna be shooting

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna push back on your your commentary about my

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Speaker 3: I can claim multiple teams already claimed the Nova Knicks.

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Speaker 3: Now I'm claiming the OKAC Thunder because what they are

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Speaker 3: just wipe them out of there in round one. For Minnesota,

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Speaker 3: we got to Denver and I'm like, well, you know,

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Speaker 3: That has been completely throw out the window. These two teams,

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Speaker 3: Minnesota and Oklahoma City are skipping every single step that

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Speaker 3: historically we've been told we have to follow. We've been

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Speaker 3: led to believe that there is no way a team

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Speaker 3: making a deep postseason run. It doesn't work that way.

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Speaker 3: You know, Steph's Warriors had to lose over and over

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Speaker 3: to the Clippers like this does not happen. And not

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Speaker 3: only are these teams performing well and as of now,

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Speaker 3: you know, in the midst of a deep playoff run,

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Speaker 3: but as you mentioned, they are just dominating the competition.

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Speaker 3: I mentioned it yesterday. Minnesota six and oh beating teams

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Speaker 3: by an average of fifteen and a half points per game.

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Speaker 3: seventeen points per game, and they've yet to allow a

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Speaker 3: they are doing is on par I know they're not,

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Speaker 3: They're different teams. It's on par with the twenty seventeen Warriors,

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Speaker 3: the two thousand and one Lakers, like some of the

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Speaker 3: great regular seasons, but in the playoff setting have come

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Speaker 2: I think part of the reason the Thunder's stats are

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Speaker 2: You know that that kind of deal. Rob, Like, if

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and you are not unique in that viewpoint, whether

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Speaker 3: Bill Belichick's defense suffocate Peyton Manning and force him into

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Speaker 3: three turnovers. Not because they wanted to see Tom Brady

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Speaker 3: check it down to a Mondola and Edelman for seven

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Speaker 3: yards and a crossing route over and over. No, you

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Speaker 3: were watching because you hope that somebody would beat him,

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Speaker 3: because you wanted to see Eli Manning pull the ups,

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Speaker 3: because you wanted to see Nick Foles do something that

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Speaker 3: we can expect. The reason why Floyd Mayweather is the

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Speaker 3: most marketable boxer in combat sports history not because he

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Speaker 3: was the most aesthetically pleasing fighter, not because he was

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Speaker 3: knocking everyone out like Mike Tyson, because you wanted to

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Speaker 3: see him lose. And when you have dominant teams in sports,

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Speaker 3: or you have dynasties in sports, people tune in to

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Speaker 3: enjoy the greatness, like that's part of it, because usually

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Speaker 3: have great players that are at the forefront of these teams.

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Speaker 3: Allah Shaq and Kobe Lebron and Stephen Kdie, Michael Jordan, whatever.

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Speaker 3: But you also wanted to see them because you want

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Speaker 3: to see if anyone could take them down and if

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Speaker 3: there's a new champion every single year. Then what's gonna

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Speaker 3: bring in the casual fan that's gonna get you to

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Speaker 3: galvanize as a sporting viewership. You know, I think that

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Speaker 3: sports needs dynasties. They need these big, bad teams that

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Speaker 3: everybody can root against to keep the league moving forward.

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Speaker 2: I guess I have to talk about Celtics one twenty

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Speaker 2: Cavs ninety five. Don't need to spend too much time

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Speaker 2: on it. Boston dropped a forty burger in the first quarter,

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Speaker 2: never looked back, pulled away one handily by twenty five.

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Speaker 2: I don't see a path to victory here for Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: May they could steal one if the Celtics have a

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Speaker 2: poor shooting night. But this has sweep written all over it.

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Speaker 2: Not an overreaction to Game one. I'm telling you something's

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Speaker 2: up with Garland. He played poorly. Donovan Mitchell pumping in

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Speaker 2: thirty three. But other than that, like they just don't

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Speaker 2: have much. It's a horrendous matchup. They essentially have to

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Speaker 2: go small and it's just it's they don't have the horses,

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Speaker 2: Like they just don't have the guys. Jalen Brown had

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Speaker 2: thirty two. Derek White hit seven threes and had twenty

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Speaker 2: five points. Like Jason Tatum another quiet game, and it's

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Speaker 2: weird Tatum over five from three. All these people are like, ooh, Tatum,

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Speaker 2: can he carry them to the top? Like, can we stop?

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Speaker 2: He's been in the conference finals. I think forty years

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Speaker 2: he was in the finals. Once he's twenty five years old,

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Speaker 2: can we relax? It's like everybody's so excited to just

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Speaker 2: crown Anthony Edwards and Palla Bencarro and I get that

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Speaker 2: they're awesome. We have a lot more data on Tatum

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Speaker 2: and he's very very good. He's been very very good for.

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Speaker 1: A long time.

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Speaker 2: Like let's settle down that he was seven for nineteen

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Speaker 2: and didn't play well and coming off the bench. Peyton

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Speaker 2: Pritchard at sixteen and it's I don't know. I think

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Speaker 2: the Tatum stuff is wildly overblown. That being said, I

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Speaker 2: do have some concerns about the size. Next round, you

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Speaker 2: saw Cleveland collect some offensive boards five for MOBILEI now

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Speaker 2: if you look in the next round, you know there's

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Speaker 2: a chance they might face the next or Pacers, and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about that in a sec. And those

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Speaker 2: two teams hustle hard on the glass, I mean, no

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Speaker 2: disrespect harder Cleveland. Now, a lot of it was garbage

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Speaker 2: time in the fourth quarter. I think they brought on

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Speaker 2: the subs with like six minutes left. So I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to overreact to any of the numbers, but I

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Speaker 2: do see porzingis needed obviously in the finals, regardless of

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Speaker 2: who they play, and then I think in the conference

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Speaker 2: finals it would be very, very nice to have him

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Speaker 2: just to make sure they get back to the finals.

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Speaker 1: The only thing better than sitting on your couch watching

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Speaker 1: the games. He's making money while you do it. Here's

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Speaker 1: your best bet.

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Speaker 2: I do want to briefly talk about best bets, Fords,

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Speaker 2: because this is a challenging one. If you guys know,

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Speaker 2: I'm a Knicks fan, and we call game one, we

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Speaker 2: had the Pacers getting points. Game two, I don't think

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Speaker 2: you're gonna like this bet. Let me just quickly talk

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Speaker 2: through it.

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Speaker 3: First.

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Speaker 2: Number one, the nixt announce that Mitchell Robinson is all

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Speaker 2: sorts of busted up, and now Mitchel Robinson joins Bogdanovic

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Speaker 2: and joins Julius Randall on say good night. Their season

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Speaker 2: is over. Those are three of their top eight guys. Okay,

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Speaker 2: the Knicks bench in Game one, Yeah, they got out

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Speaker 2: scored forty six to three. If anyone on Earth thinks

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Speaker 2: that's sustainable, you aren't watching enough basketball. It's just it's not.

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Speaker 2: And I feel awful for the Knicks and what I'm

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Speaker 2: about to tell you, guys, it's just they cannot continue

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Speaker 2: this way, and if they do, they're probably gonna lose

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Speaker 2: a series. I don't know where you steal minutes from,

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Speaker 2: Like precious Achua Tiboteaux clearly doesn't trust him, and I

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Speaker 2: get that, you know, for he's a young guy and

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Speaker 2: he played four minutes like he's gonna have to probably

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Speaker 2: log fifteen at least. Hartenstein's not gonna last, and we

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Speaker 2: know he has trouble with fouls. He played McBride a

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Speaker 2: little bit, So what are you shrinking to seven? I

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Speaker 2: don't know that Simms is ready to go diacat. I

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Speaker 2: don't even know if he's playing in the postseason. Every

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Speaker 2: game is closed. Yeah, he's the big kid from Virginia.

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Speaker 2: Is he ready for high level minutes? In a big

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Speaker 2: time NBA playoff caip I don't know, and that's why

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Speaker 2: I'm concerned, and that's why I have the Pacers getting

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Speaker 2: the points and Pacers on the money line. Can I

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Speaker 2: And you guys know, I love Brunson, I love Heart,

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Speaker 2: I love the Villanova Nicks. I kind of sort of

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Speaker 2: think the Pacers are the side, and I like them

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Speaker 2: to bounce back here. I think Halliburton obviously we'll have

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Speaker 2: a wake up call and these Knicks and at some listen,

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Speaker 2: this isn't like you're sitting at a roulette table and

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Speaker 2: it's just been a string of red and you're waiting

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Speaker 2: for it to land black and it's red and you

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Speaker 2: just keep betting the other way keeping. I'm not doing that.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying the time between games is simple not

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Speaker 2: enough going forward, and I think the lack of rest

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Speaker 2: is going to catch up with Brunson and Devincenzo and Heart.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, guys, I'm being real here. What happens

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Speaker 2: if Brunson has an off game? We saw that in

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Speaker 2: Philly they need someone else to step up. Can Anonoby,

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Speaker 2: who's playing relentless defense? Could he give you like twenty

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Speaker 2: five I don't know. I don't think so. So now

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Speaker 2: you're relying on Heart who doesn't ever sit out, and Devincenzo.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just a tall order. So I do

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Speaker 2: think the Pacers cover. And I have some on the

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Speaker 2: money line tonight, and listen, I get it. I'm a

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Speaker 2: Knicks fan. It's tough to root against my guys, but

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Speaker 2: I think the Pacers are the side tonight. We will

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Speaker 2: come back tomorrow with an interview with a guest who's

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Speaker 2: one of the more popular guests we have. You guys

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Speaker 2: like him. We'll change it up a bit because we

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Speaker 2: don't want to get too heavy on the NBA. There's

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Speaker 2: just not a ton of NFL happening. I almost almost

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Speaker 2: wanted to talk about the Tennessee Titans picking up the

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Speaker 2: slot receiver Tyler Boyd from Cincinnati. I think it's weird.

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Speaker 2: I like that division. I like the Colts. That division

557
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: has long been a laughingstock. But the Jags obviously will

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Speaker 2: bounce back, right. We know that the Cults are going

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Speaker 2: to be very good with Steichen and with Anthony Richardson healthy.

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Speaker 2: And then it becomes like, oh, well, what are the Titans?

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Speaker 2: They lost Eric Henry? How can they be any good. Well, listen,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna find out if Will Levis has anything. Okay,

563
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Speaker 2: Will Levis. His receiving corps is now DeAndre Hopkins, Calvin Ridley,

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Speaker 2: who they spent a lot of money on, Treylon Burkes,

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Speaker 2: who I like a lot first round pick. He just

566
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Speaker 2: can't really stay healthy. And now I got Tyler Boyd

567
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Speaker 2: in this loot. That's four good receivers. Now, are any

568
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Speaker 2: of them true? One? I think Ridley can be one.

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Speaker 2: He showed it in Jacksonville and he was very, very

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Speaker 2: good in Atlanta. He's had some issues obviously off the field.

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Speaker 2: You know, he had the suspension for gambling. But I

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Speaker 2: think that's a good, good group of receivers. I think

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Speaker 2: Tennessee can be plucky. Obviously everybody's chasing Houston and c J. Stroud.

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Speaker 2: The Texans went out and had a really nice offseason,

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Speaker 2: adding some big, big time I think they had a

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Speaker 2: twelve free agents or something like that. Like, they've got

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys and it should be an extremely

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Speaker 2: extremely competitive division, which is something we haven't said about

579
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Speaker 2: that division in a while. For some reason, it has

580
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Speaker 2: suddenly just gotten great. The weakest division clearly now is

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Speaker 2: Falcon Saints, Panthers, and Bucks, and I think we would

582
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Speaker 2: all agree that even that division, Tampa got to the

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Speaker 2: playoffs last year. Right, Falcons added Kirk Cousins Saints they

584
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Speaker 2: were a bit of a letdown last year, and Bryce

585
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Speaker 2: Young gets a very good offensive coach who's fixed a

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Speaker 2: couple quarterbacks. I don't know where are the bad teams

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Speaker 2: in the NFL this year. Certainly on my Jets of course. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: that's enough for today. We are back tomorrow. Talk to

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Speaker 2: you then,