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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, February tenth, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the.

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast where we always believe in you.

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald, it's being your man, MG, markus Gring, joined

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Speaker 1: by Michael f Florio and LaQuan Jones. Wait, no for

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Speaker 1: you now you're doing the l Q bunny rabbit ears thing. No, man,

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Speaker 1: I thought we were cool.

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Speaker 3: It's back.

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Speaker 1: It's more. It's more from the Salnald you know, it's

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Speaker 1: more from the elbow sort of thing, not not the risk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more that.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, way to start the pod. Such a great anyway,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the off season.

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Speaker 1: Question Mark air quotes.

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Speaker 3: Is it.

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Speaker 1: One of my buddies and you know, in my group

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Speaker 1: chat texted, He's like, cy, now football season is over,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, loll no, no, no, it's the

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Speaker 1: portion of the season where they play games is over.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the silly season.

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Speaker 1: Now, like now, yes, you know we've gotten into hand

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Speaker 1: size season.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had the Senior Bowl. I think the Shrine.

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Speaker 4: Rookie breakdowns are already breakdowns are already happening.

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Speaker 1: You know, we haven't really gotten into free agency yet.

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Speaker 1: That's coming soon. What do we wish like a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks from.

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Speaker 2: The combine, Like, no, man, it's not over.

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Speaker 3: Makes May and June is the off season, man, May

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Speaker 3: and June.

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Speaker 2: That's it. That's it, you know, it's what I tell people, And.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that you know everybody listening was excited for

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Speaker 1: this peak behind the curtain. But like for those of

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Speaker 1: us who work here, like June first is when everybody flees,

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Speaker 1: because it's like that's like you get basically six weeks

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Speaker 1: from June first until training camp starts and and that's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then we're back in it again.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, today's show is going.

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Speaker 1: To be all about the Super Bowl, recapping Super Bowl sixty,

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Speaker 1: what happened in Santa Clara. Congrats to the Seahawks and

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Speaker 1: to Seahawks fans on their championship. As one of my

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Speaker 1: buddies who's a Seahawks fan told me, is like, it's

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Speaker 1: eleven years too long, but we finally get number two.

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Speaker 2: When I was like, congratulations, so good for you on that.

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Speaker 5: Man, thoughts, eleven years is too long. I've been watching

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Speaker 5: sports entire life. I've yet to see a single one

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Speaker 5: of my team win a championship. That's wild to me.

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Speaker 1: Because you know, I know I'm fortunate, but like every

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Speaker 1: team I root for has run a championship in my.

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Speaker 6: Life, I might be time to change teams, man, because.

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Speaker 3: The way I view it is one is going to

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Speaker 3: mean so much more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, sure, sure, so now I get that

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Speaker 1: that that is kind of a wild thing.

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Speaker 3: I hate it. I absolutely hate it. You should at

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Speaker 3: least change basketball teams.

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Speaker 1: No, yes, that's what That's the one you should hang

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Speaker 1: on to is the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: Like when the Knicks win.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Personally, I'm not keeping up with the Knicks, but I

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Speaker 6: just have buddies. Like I said, there are Knicks fans

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Speaker 6: and they just know nothing but sorrow and pain, and like,

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Speaker 6: as soon as the Knicks get good, the rest of

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Speaker 6: my group, Chad don't care about basketball.

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Speaker 1: I'm I feel like I'm not from New York. But

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Speaker 1: I would imagine Florio that if the Knicks win, like

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Speaker 1: that team, on that roster will basically be Kings of

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Speaker 1: New York for the rest of their lives.

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Speaker 3: All statues out front.

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Speaker 5: The Knicks a popular team in New York because, like Mets,

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Speaker 5: and Yankees are divided. Yankees and Jets are divided. There's

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Speaker 5: three hockey teams in the area. No one cares about

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Speaker 5: the Nets though, Like the Knicks are absolutely number one,

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Speaker 5: and it'sn't really a New Jersey team.

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Speaker 3: That's why. Yeah, they should have stayed there.

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Speaker 5: But I tell Nikola every year going into the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: if the Knicks ever do win a championship, I'm flying

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Speaker 5: back home because that celebration is going to be unmatched,

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Speaker 5: unlike anything anyone has seen before. Because They're just going

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Speaker 5: and want every single part.

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Speaker 1: Of it, you know what, and I will. I will

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Speaker 1: hardly endorse that. I will be fully behind your efforts. Look,

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Speaker 1: I might even throw you fifty bucks to get back and.

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Speaker 3: You want to come through. I don't even nick fan,

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Speaker 3: but you ca can enjoy the party just.

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Speaker 2: For the party. I might, I might.

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Speaker 1: That might be coming just to say I was there

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna talk super Bowl pretty much with this

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Speaker 1: entire show. There's actually surprisingly a lot of news headlines.

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Speaker 1: A lot of things have happened even during Super Bowl weekend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're a Patriot fan, I'm just gonna be

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Speaker 3: honest with you, you probably don't want to listen to this episode.

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Speaker 5: Look, you know the meme or the tweet where it

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Speaker 5: was like the haters doubt of me, like shout out to.

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Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, yeah, Patriot fans, you were allowed all year long.

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Speaker 5: And all everyone said was they're not battle tested, right,

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Speaker 5: they haven't played anyone to get here, and that held

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Speaker 5: People were holding their hat on, and maybe I'm just

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Speaker 5: a salty Bills fans. I kept feeling like, yeah, that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I do want it later on in the show

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Speaker 1: of talk about You know, I get it it's a

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Speaker 2: Lukwan, you and I.

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Speaker 1: Were in the same place watching the game. We were

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Speaker 6: Of emotions just bollowed up inside because honestly seeing Cooper

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Speaker 6: honestly I was rooting for the Seahawks. I told you that,

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Speaker 3: I'm a bit of rams fan.

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Speaker 6: I was happy to see this game fall out like

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Speaker 3: I'm for it. I love it, man.

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Speaker 6: I'm a Sam Donald fan now, and like in that game,

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Speaker 6: I mean even the play where Jack Smith Figigiba would

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Speaker 6: he didn't go out there and throw for two ninety

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Speaker 6: I'm happy with Sam Donald being on you know, any team.

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Speaker 1: If I was building it.

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Speaker 1: Right, I just about to say, like, oh yeah, Sam

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Speaker 1: Drake May's two ninety five. In fact, it wasn't until

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Speaker 1: Drake May had almost three hundred passing yards in that game.

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Speaker 6: I do feel like Drake May made some big plays.

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Speaker 6: It just wasn't consistent and the turnoversus what killed them.

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Speaker 6: Like that was the play where I was like, oh

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Speaker 6: it's over, like emotionally, mentally, spiritually, it just was his

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Speaker 3: Remember last year the Mahomes the worthy throw.

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Speaker 5: just like that padding.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The the sports betting services I can't remember which one

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Speaker 2: You know, Sam Donald.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if what the vibes were when you

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Speaker 4: Right, like when as how they win games like Drake

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Speaker 1: Yeah at nineteen nothing, I'm like, I think it's pretty

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Speaker 3: Ten targets he was, Yeah, they locked him. They locked

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Speaker 6: Christian Gonzalez said, you were going to jail, do not pass,

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Speaker 2: Vay anything kind of surprised you, Floria.

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Speaker 5: Two things that didn't surprise me is Stefan Diggs getting

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Speaker 3: Right that I was like, that is the guy I

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Speaker 3: If you make it nineteen eight. The only way you have.

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Speaker 5: A chance of tying that game in three possessions is

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Speaker 3: Then you scored another touchdown, get the.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this was a Super Bowl that both teams shouldn't

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Speaker 1: saying this was like a terrible decision, but I think

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Speaker 1: they were better candidates. But it just seems like we

443
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,400
Speaker 1: are pretty much just resigned that it's.

444
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Speaker 5: Going to be an offensive Award now, like I didn't

445
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 5: want it to go to Jason Myers though, yeah a.

446
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Speaker 3: Kicker, like who else would be next in line? Yeah,

447
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 3: Like why not if he was. He's getting those kicks

448
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 3: because of Kenneth Walker. I mean exactly, he's putting them

449
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 3: in position to even get those cakes.

450
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Speaker 1: But if he misses those kicks, then it sets the

451
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Speaker 1: Patriots like, like, I just feel like we can't just

452
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Speaker 1: be like, well, he did his job because Kennth Walker

453
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Speaker 1: just did his job, Like, you know, like we got

454
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Speaker 1: to be more creative as a society than this, Like

455
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 1: we just can't hit folks.

456
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Speaker 2: We can.

457
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Speaker 6: MG's voting and kickers in your fantasy right, well, we're

458
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Speaker 6: trying to vote them out.

459
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Speaker 1: I've been I've been very plain about this, and I

460
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Speaker 1: want kickers in fantasy.

461
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Speaker 2: Like I've been straight up. I have not hit this

462
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 2: at all exposed.

463
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Speaker 1: Like the last time we had a defensive player as

464
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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl MVP was Von Miller in Super Bowl fifty.

465
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Speaker 2: Before that, in forty.

466
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Speaker 1: Eight was Malcolm Smith, against which, by the way, you know,

467
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: fight on forever USC linebackers for the Seahawks and Super

468
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Speaker 1: Bowls making big plays.

469
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Speaker 2: Malcolm Smith. So I'm just saying that they.

470
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Speaker 1: Show up in Super Bowls, but like I'm trying to

471
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm scrolling back, and since two thousand and six,

472
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Speaker 1: we've had two defensive players win MVP in a Super Bowl,

473
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Speaker 1: and like, I don't know, man, Like the Seahawks defense

474
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 1: was the story of the game, and yet somehow they

475
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Speaker 1: turn around again, like again, got a great game.

476
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Speaker 2: Shout out to.

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Speaker 6: Him, right, put a one thirty five. That was the

478
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 6: most Sinceterrell Davis in the Super Bowl game. Man, Like,

479
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 6: you gotta look at it.

480
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 3: It's historically wanted him to get a touchdown.

481
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Speaker 1: Though Devin Witherspoon had a sack.

482
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Speaker 6: He had the pressure if they didn't call that one back,

483
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Speaker 6: Oh my sack.

484
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Speaker 1: He had the pressure that basically led to that pick

485
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Speaker 1: six by nuos To at the end, he locked down

486
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Speaker 1: on the wider SERI like, Devin Witherspoon had a great game,

487
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Speaker 1: but like a ton of it doesn't necessarily lead to statistics,

488
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Speaker 1: doesn't show up in the box score.

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Speaker 5: Like if they gave it to a defensive player, I

490
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 5: thought he was going to be the one that got it. Witherspoon, Yeah, yeah,

491
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Speaker 5: but the issue is there was too many guys on

492
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Speaker 5: that defense that you could be like, this guy played great.

493
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Speaker 5: There was one guy on offense you could say that about.

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Speaker 6: I think I did tell Nick Schuk and media Row

495
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Speaker 6: that it was either going to be Witherspoon or Reek

496
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Speaker 6: Wool and it was one of those guys. But I

497
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Speaker 6: do think that their secondary deserves and a type of award,

498
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Speaker 6: but not Super Bowl.

499
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Speaker 1: I mean they were the most valuable to just make

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Speaker 1: another award, to keep making up fake awards instead of

501
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: just mumming people like why do we do why why

502
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Speaker 1: are we offensive player of the Year rings like this?

503
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Speaker 3: They were great?

504
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: Give the like Friday, it's like both of ours? Who

505
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 2: will keep it at my house?

506
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: Like they can just pass it around like the Stanley Cup, right,

507
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: like everybody on the defense gets a week with it

508
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: until the season starts again. Like why do we have

509
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: to keep pretzel braining this to make it an offensive

510
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: player award when clearly the story of the game was

511
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Speaker 1: how good the Seahawks defense was.

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Speaker 6: I was not going to get this valuable player, not

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Speaker 6: most valuable group players.

514
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Speaker 2: On the end of it, it's a made what we

515
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Speaker 2: did that we can do what we never did.

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Speaker 3: No, not a rule.

517
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Speaker 2: There's no rule there's nothing in the Ain't no rule, Ain't.

518
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Speaker 1: No rule of the book says a dog can't play basketball.

519
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Speaker 1: Like we can do whatever we want with this award. Okay,

520
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Speaker 1: we can do whatever we want with this award. It

521
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Speaker 1: doesn't let's open our minds. It's twenty twenty six. Let's

522
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: be more creative with this. We are better as a society.

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Speaker 5: We could stat that he joins the Hall of Famers

524
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Speaker 5: for to do it if he got that touchdown, the

525
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Speaker 5: sixth player ever and five of the well four of

526
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Speaker 5: the other five who have done it or Hall of Fame.

527
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Speaker 5: It's three games with one hundred yards and a touchdown

528
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Speaker 5: in the playoffs, he would have been the sixth to.

529
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Speaker 2: Ever do it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, unless something really I bet you that was

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Speaker 1: going through his mind.

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Speaker 3: I asked him that Monday.

533
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Speaker 5: He was like, I have no idea about stats, and

534
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Speaker 5: I was like, you know what, I don't believe you.

535
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm lie that unless something really changes, I

536
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Speaker 1: don't I don't really see Keneth Walker as a Hall

537
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Speaker 1: of Famer just yet. There's time, but not yet, not yet.

538
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Speaker 1: He's one of the guys we're going to talk about though.

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Speaker 1: As we take a break we'll come back. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker, We'll talk Drake May, We'll talk to some

541
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Speaker 1: of the other guys on the field and kind of

542
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Speaker 1: what we're thinking of them for fantasy in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: That's coming up next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

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Speaker 1: All right, so I've gotta give you our recap. I'm

545
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Speaker 1: sure you have seen red heard other recaps that you

546
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Speaker 1: know obviously want a lot more to x's and o's

547
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Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. It's Tuesday, man, I've probably

548
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: done this thing to Dell. One is going to spend

549
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Speaker 1: this forth though the next year. And you know, I

550
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Speaker 1: will caveat this entire segment of the show by saying, yes,

551
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Speaker 1: it is a small sample size, it is one game,

552
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Speaker 1: But a lot of times we are influenced by the

553
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Speaker 1: last thing we saw of a player, whether it's a

554
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Speaker 1: hot stretch down.

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Speaker 2: The season or a really bad game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's not forget everybody's opinion of Sam Donald

557
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Speaker 1: coming into this year was clouded by the fact that

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Speaker 1: he had a terrible playoff game last year against the Rams,

559
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Speaker 1: and that was the last thing we saw of him,

560
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Speaker 1: and that was the thing that stuck with everybody. Now,

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald is holding a Lombardi Trophy, So who's laughing?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: That being said, you touched on this a little bit

564
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Speaker 1: last segment, Glorio. Drake May, as a guy that is

565
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Speaker 1: I think consensus top three quarterback off the board in fantasy,

566
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Speaker 1: did not have a good postseason. Was sacked I think

567
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Speaker 1: twenty times in the playoffs. I know that it's not

568
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Speaker 1: all on him, but it's partially on him. He turned

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Speaker 1: the ball over a ton, including three times in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He had to go through a gauntlet of

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Speaker 1: defenses going from the Chargers to the Texans, to the

572
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Speaker 1: Broncos to the Seahawks, and did not fare particularly well

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Speaker 1: in those games. Does that make you think or rethink

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Speaker 1: how you feel about his fantasy potential next year?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Bit.

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Speaker 5: It was literally the worst playoff EPA by a quarterback

578
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Speaker 5: in the next gen stats era. So in the last

579
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Speaker 5: ten years, no quarterback has performed worse in the playoffs

580
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Speaker 5: over however many games they played in that year than

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Speaker 5: Drake May did. And I know a lot of Patriots

582
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Speaker 5: fans are being like, well, look at who they played.

583
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Speaker 5: And I know social media is dubbing him the schedule

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Speaker 5: online right now, but when you look at who they're

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Speaker 5: playing next season, it's a lot. And I'm not even

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00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 5: talking about wins and losses for the Patriots. I'm talking

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Speaker 5: about defenses that Drake May has to line up against. Right,

588
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 5: they have on the schedule the Denver Broncos, the Green

589
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 5: Bay Packers, the Vikings and Steelers, which are like so,

590
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Speaker 5: so they also play the Bears, the Lions, the Chiefs,

591
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 5: the Chargers, the Seahawks, and the Jaguars. Like that is

592
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 5: a much much tougher schedule than it was.

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Speaker 3: That's eight teams that made the player.

594
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Speaker 5: Yes defense is that he had struggles against this playoffs.

595
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Speaker 5: So if like Denver, the Chargers, the Seahawks are all

596
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Speaker 5: on next year's schedule, you add in the Jacks, who

597
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 5: are a very tough defense, and some of these others.

598
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 5: So to me, I still think Drake May is in

599
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 5: that top seven quarterback.

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00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: It's something I've talked a lot about.

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Speaker 5: I think after the top six or seven, depending on

602
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 5: how you feel about Jackson Dart, there's a drop off

603
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 5: at the position. I think he's belongs in that tier,

604
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 5: but I don't think he's like a slam dunk top

605
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 5: three anymore. Like for me, the top two are and

606
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 5: always will be Josh and Lamar. I'm not putting anyone

607
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 5: else ahead of them, but like.

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00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 3: May was comfortably going as three, I don't know if

609
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 3: I agree with that right now.

610
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 5: Like I still think if Jade and Daniels stays healthy,

611
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 5: I'd rather have Jaden.

612
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 3: For fantasy than Drake May and stuff like that.

613
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 5: So yeah, I think I know we're gonna hear the

614
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 5: shoulder injury and we're gonna hear all this stuff, but man,

615
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 5: it is hard to overlay. It's not like Drake May

616
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 5: just struggled. Like it was a historically bad run by

617
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Speaker 5: this Patriots offense, and to me, it's hard to just complete. Now,

618
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 5: if they rebuild that a line and stuff like that,

619
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Speaker 5: then the.

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Speaker 3: Conversation changes, But as of today, I have concerns.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Will Campbell unfortunately ended up as kind of a

622
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: main character in that game because I think the stat

623
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Speaker 1: I saw he gave up a Super Bowl record fourteen

624
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Speaker 1: p ures, I think it was.

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Speaker 2: Like that was the most ever.

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Speaker 1: You know, I saw something this morning saying that, you know,

627
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel has no plans to move him from his

628
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: right guard position.

629
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: It was a left guard.

630
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Speaker 1: But whatever they don't plan to move him out of

631
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: out of uh his current position. So you know, the

632
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: the job now is just to get better in the offseason.

633
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: If you're Will Campbell.

634
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: To the point of how tough that game.

635
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: Was for Drake May, my sister, who.

636
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: Only has a passing interest in football, texted me in

637
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: like the early fourth quarter or something like that, and

638
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: basically it was like, Hey, She's like, I'm this is

639
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: a serious question what a performance like this? Like would

640
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: a team cut a player after a performance like this?

641
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: Cut a quarterback after performance at this? I'm like no,

642
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 1: I mean, like, like he's in year two, he's got

643
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: a four year kind like they spent the high draft.

644
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: I just went through all the you know, the reasons.

645
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: Why, Like he's a high draft anyway, he's got a

646
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: four year deal with a fifth your option. Like, nah, man,

647
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: like they're they're not gonna cut him.

648
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: You know.

649
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: She's like, Okay, you know, She's like, I just you know,

650
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: I just kind of wan.

651
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, I get it's been a bad day for him,

652
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: but now he'll be he'll be back and he'll be

653
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: the starter next year.

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Speaker 2: That's no thing. But yeah, I mean, it just kind

655
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: of goes to show what what sort of day it

656
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Speaker 2: was for Drake May at quarterback.

657
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Speaker 1: I would say I currently have him at three, but

658
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time looking at it yesterday

659
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Speaker 1: and like, I haven't.

660
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: Done a real reshuffling yet.

661
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: That'll probably happen in the next I don't know, a

662
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: few days or something like that.

663
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: Three is kind of high man.

664
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean like three was my initial like

665
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: into the regular season, like Bob, Bob, let's put this together.

666
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: So now it's like, yeah, I can't. I can't leave

667
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: him at three.

668
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: Josh and Lamar one and two for all three of us.

669
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 5: I'm guessing Joshua won Lamar two, yep, yeah, yeah, and

670
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 5: then there becomes the Burrows Stacks and whoever else.

671
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jadeen's in there.

672
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 6: Hurts like, yeah, he might be outside top seven, and

673
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 6: that's fine because again he's facing a hard scheduled next year.

674
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 3: And it's like he still remains a high end quarterback

675
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: for fantasy because he has his legs.

676
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 6: Like even in the Super Bowl, as bad as he played,

677
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 6: that's seventeen and a half fantasy points. So yeah, I

678
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 6: would look at that if it was a Week six

679
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 6: game like a well, he could have did better, but

680
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 6: I still got seventeen and a half points.

681
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: Screw it.

682
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

683
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: Clint Kubiak, to no one's surprise, is leaving Seattle to

684
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: go and be the head coach of the Raiders.

685
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: I mean, we've been waiting on.

686
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: This, right this This news sort of broke about a

687
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: week or so ago, and he confirmed it after the Super.

688
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: Bowl was over, So I mean, I know we have.

689
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: To sort of wait to see who replaces him with Kwan,

690
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: but who do you see an immediate impact? I mean,

691
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: the Seahawks offense took a big step forward this year.

692
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: Do you see a big immediate impact with this?

693
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

694
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 6: I mean just in terms of scheme, in terms of

695
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 6: them having the you know super Bowl hangover. You've seen

696
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 6: my rams in twenty two kind of look a little sluggish,

697
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 6: and having such a key piece removed from that staff,

698
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 6: of like who's going to replace him? They keep this

699
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 6: ball rolling, and like, I think the biggest impacts we'll

700
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 6: see is obviously with Sam with Jackson Smith the jig,

701
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 6: But if they bring back Kenneth Walker, I think he's

702
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 6: still final whatever they do with that run game. But overall,

703
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 6: I kind of look at this as like, oh, no,

704
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 6: like who's coming in, Like who will be the guy

705
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 6: in house stepping up or if they look elsewhere. I mean,

706
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 6: there's still some folks out there. I mean, for God's sakes,

707
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 6: we've seen Adam Gates come back to you know, football

708
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 6: out there so many years removed from the Jets.

709
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: Now he's in the Chargers.

710
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 6: I mean, we might start seeing guys from the past,

711
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 6: you know, having opportunities back in the NFL. But I

712
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 6: just look at this as like maybe we should be

713
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 6: a little hesitant with Jackson Smith the jig but coming

714
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 6: off the board in that early first round. I'm just

715
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 6: looking at it from a scope of like we saw

716
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 6: think Qubiac bring life to the Saints offense where they

717
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 6: became a scrappy offense. Now Kellen Moore is starting to

718
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 6: get better and better down there, no Leance now removing

719
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 6: k Kubiak. What does the Seahawks offense honestly look like?

720
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, as you mentioned Adam Gayes, I saw that headliner

721
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: just I just shook my head.

722
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 5: Seattle gonna get you know, like everyone's got a job.

723
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

724
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: Like that is sort of the problem, uh of going

725
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: deep in the playoffs and then losing your coordinators.

726
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: Is that? Uh yeah, all the all.

727
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: The chairs are filled at this point, right, everybody's kind

728
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: of settled. I mean, look, I'm sure there's somebody out

729
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: there who will jump at the chance. Maybe they end

730
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: up promoting somebody, right like they just they just hire

731
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: from within.

732
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: Who knows. But yeah, that's that's the downside.

733
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: Tanner Strane is out there. Jets was out there, old

734
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: Tanner Jets old.

735
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was more talent to work with in Seattle

736
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: right than he did. At least he'll at least have

737
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Bust didn't have a quarter work with with

738
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: the Jets.

739
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 6: He'll have one exactly that that that was unfair shake

740
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 6: I mean like that was a failed project with Justin

741
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 6: and now they rumined the bandaid. Move on, I mean

742
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 6: Tanner ing strand give him a shot?

743
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: Why not?

744
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: Man, We'll see.

745
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: So the expectations are zach Scharbonade not going to be

746
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: ready for week one. Not sure when exactly he's gonna

747
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: be ready to go. Obviously, Look, you tear an ACL

748
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: in the divisional round of the playoffs, you know in January.

749
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: We're not seeing you until several weeks into the season,

750
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: if at all. Kenth Walker Flourio has said he wants

751
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: to be back in Seattle. I would think with the

752
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: way he played throughout the playoffs that the Seahawks will

753
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: want him back.

754
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: In a world where George Holani.

755
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: Is the RB two for the Seahawks, does that make

756
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker a bonafide fantasy.

757
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: RB one.

758
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 5: A bonafide I think, like, I don't think he would

759
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 5: be an RB one like a like a Bijeon or

760
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 5: a Gibbs or someone like that, where you're like you're

761
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 5: an RB one every single week. I think he would

762
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 5: be more that borderline are, like he could finish any

763
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 5: week as an RB one, but his.

764
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: Floor is probably like just outside of the top twelve.

765
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 5: Because look, his performance was exactly what we said it

766
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 5: would be on the show last week. He had a

767
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 5: lot of runs for like one yard two yards and

768
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 5: it'd be a couple loss negative, and then he broke

769
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 5: out a few that were twenty thirty twenty, you know, Like,

770
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 5: so I think that's just who Kenneth Walker is. But

771
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 5: exactly to what we were saying last week, the more

772
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 5: shots you give him, the more chances of hitting a

773
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 5: home run you get.

774
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, I he would finish.

775
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 5: I think if he had a year two himself as

776
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 5: just like the lead clear cut lead.

777
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: Back, I'm very confident he would finish top twelve. It

778
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: might be a little bit up and down getting there,

779
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 3: but I do think he will get there.

780
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 5: Which look as a Kenneth Walker supporter, whether it's in

781
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 5: Seattle or elsewhere, I hope he gets an opportunity to

782
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 5: go because I do think like on the broadcast, they

783
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 5: were being like, he's a bad receiver.

784
00:35:59,640 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: I'm not.

785
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 5: I'm saying he's see him see, but I think he's

786
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 5: got some potential there that we haven't really seen. So

787
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 5: I I'm going to keep going to bat for the upside.

788
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 3: Of Kenneth Walker.

789
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: I mean twenty seven carries, right.

790
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: I know that getting twenty seven carries in a game

791
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: is not a thing that really happens much anymore in

792
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: the NFL. But man, if if I knew the Kenneth

793
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: Walker is going to get twenty two to twenty five

794
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: carries every single week, I'm fine taking him as a

795
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: top twelve back. You know, if you could promise me

796
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: that there at least that most weeks he gets twenty

797
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: two to twenty five carries. Uh, and maybe a couple

798
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: of targets in there. I don't expect much of the

799
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: target category. You give me a couple of targets. Yeah,

800
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: I would take him as a top twelve running back

801
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: for sure.

802
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 6: I agree. I agree because the only thing that will

803
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 6: probably make me second guess if I have another option

804
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 6: there at running back that I feel like will give

805
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 6: me more stability and durability because health will always remain,

806
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 6: you know, the question mark with Kenneth Walker. That's probably

807
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 6: why they had him and Zach Charbonay kind of the

808
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 6: one two punch this season. So as a top twelve back, yeah,

809
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 6: full send. But I'm definitely gonna take some inshorans and

810
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 6: I think, you know, Zach Charbonay at the end of

811
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 6: the rounds may not be a bad pick. You know,

812
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 6: he might be squeaking in you know, week six, week seven,

813
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 6: middle of the season type.

814
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 3: But I still have my concerns and hesitations with Kenneth Walker.

815
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 3: Can I throw some names out at you. I pulled

816
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: up Fantasy Pro's early rankings. Kenneth Walker's way too low.

817
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna throw the names and you tell me

818
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 5: where you would stop. Okay, So he's at eighteen right ahead,

819
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 5: of him Kyron Williams.

820
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: I'm taking Kyron, Okay.

821
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's crazy. Yeah, I guess it's I'd

822
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: try to say Kyron.

823
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what about trebon I think I want

824
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: I want Kenneth Walker.

825
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, how is he? R J Harvey, Kenneth Walker, Derrick.

826
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: Henry King, Henry probably Derrick Henry.

827
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: But it's close preestak athlete teer. We don't even walk playing.

828
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: I means, right now, at this exact moment, it's Kenneth Walker.

829
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: Uh. Then we get to the ones right, like it's

830
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs.

831
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, so want Jacobs.

832
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: I probably take Kenneth Walker over Jacobs. Really okay, ken

833
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 3: Walker over Jacob.

834
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 6: I'm usually the Jacob's guy, but this was the year

835
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 6: we saw a huge decline, like efficiency wise, and like

836
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 6: they're not afraid to hand the ball off to somebody else.

837
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he was fully healthy because like Mike Lafloor,

838
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: mettla Floor is gonna run. He's gonna run the ball

839
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: even probably when he shouldn't. Like I mean, there were

840
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: when they was just like let they just let Jordan

841
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: Love cook and he just was trying to feed Josh Jacobs, like.

842
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, because he's been a workhorse his entire career, Like

843
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 6: these injuries are starting to pile up, and it's like,

844
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 6: I don't know at twenty seven and almost twenty eight

845
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 6: years old next season, in.

846
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 5: The next four or like Bucky Saqua, Chase Brown, Omari

847
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 5: and Hampton.

848
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: Maybe Bucky. I think the others are going to go

849
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: ahead of Walker though, yeah, I think so eighteen is

850
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: way too low though, yeah, is wild.

851
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: That is again that you know, I'd be curious again

852
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: curious to see when those rankings hit, like where they

853
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: pre Charbonnet injury, you know, or whatever, So that that's

854
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: also worth kind of.

855
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 5: It's also only a very few amount of people have

856
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 5: done Like usually in season it's like one hundred and

857
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 5: something ranking.

858
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: This one is like fourteen.

859
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, that's true too. That's fair.

860
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 1: So you heard Lakwan where Travon Henderson is on this list,

861
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: he was really just not visible at all. Although I'll

862
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: say this, when I watched the game live, there's only

863
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: like one or two Travion touches that actually were memorable.

864
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: He ended up. I went back and looked he had

865
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: he had six carries, he had three catches. But like

866
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: when they tried to get him to the edge. He

867
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: actually was pretty good. I think he ripped off one

868
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: like seven yards, Yeah, like a seven yard run. He

869
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: had won this like for eight or nine. When they

870
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: tried to like bang him up the middle, it just

871
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: didn't work out.

872
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: But when he was getting to the edge, what was that?

873
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: He was great?

874
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: You know, But obviously they were heavy on using Formandre Stevenson. So, like,

875
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: how do you project Trevion knowing that Manre is going

876
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: to be back in New England next year.

877
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 6: I'm not drafting him and if I do, he'll probably

878
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 6: be like an RB three four, Like he won't be

879
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 6: a weekly starter for me, not even a flex. So, like,

880
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 6: I think we're trying to really paint this picture that

881
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 6: he could possibly be part of this one two punch.

882
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 6: But how many times have we seen New England kind

883
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 6: of just ignore him and kind of ignore his talent, because,

884
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 6: like you said, in that same game, we've seen him

885
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 6: rip off these seven these eight yard runs. But it's like, Okay,

886
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 6: let him get rhythm, give it to him again, like,

887
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 6: don't run him in between the tackles and do this

888
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 6: delay handoff. That was a terribly play by the way,

889
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 6: they almost got Drake May killed. But I look at

890
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 6: it as like for fantasy, we have to take what's

891
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 6: in front of us. Stevenson's going to be there next year.

892
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 6: They like Stevenson. Stevenson was actually good in the playoffs,

893
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 6: just not in this game against one of the best fronts,

894
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 6: the trenches that Seahawks were doing. They were just suffocating

895
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 6: the run game. So I think Stevenson to them, has

896
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 6: proven that he could be reliable, He can adapt and

897
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 6: fix the mistakes. We haven't seen that boy fumble very

898
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 6: very long.

899
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: That joke is well gone.

900
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 6: So it's like he is a service well back that

901
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 6: they rely on and they trust. So it's like Stevenson

902
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 6: is going to be there next year. I rather draft

903
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 6: him because I know he's going to fall. He's going

904
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 6: to fall into new depths because we're going to see

905
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 6: one practice video and then Henderson's ADP is going to

906
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 6: rise for whatever reason that the fantasy streets that morning

907
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 6: wanted to.

908
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: The other part of this, for better or worse, is

909
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: the Patriots every week aren't going to play a team

910
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: that basically controls a line of scrimmage with four because

911
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: that's essentially what the Seahawks did. They use a four

912
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: man rush most of the time. When they brought blitzes

913
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: then it was definitely a rap.

914
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 2: You know who.

915
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 5: This Patriot's backfield truly reminds me of uh the Seahawks.

916
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 5: Like Stevenson is better than Sharbonnay, but Traveon Henderson is

917
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker right, Like he's going to have carries where

918
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 5: he gets you a yard or loses you a yard

919
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 5: or but then he's gonna hit those home runs and

920
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 5: metrically everything says that he is the better runner of

921
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 5: the two, and it's not close. Right in the small

922
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 5: sample he had in the middle of the year where

923
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 5: he was the RB one for this team, those were

924
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 5: your best running performances of the season. Despite all that, though,

925
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 5: I agree with LQ like they're not it's too scary

926
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 5: with how much they favored Stevenson, and it's something I

927
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 5: know coaches like to move the sticks and play ahead

928
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 5: and they don't like those short yardage but like Travion

929
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 5: has game changing home run heaving ability. For me, it's

930
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 5: really because you know, I love him and I don't

931
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 5: want to be off of him. But if he's going

932
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 5: anywhere close to where his ADP was this year, I'm

933
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 5: probably gonna shy away, but I still one thousand percent

934
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 5: believe he brings league winning upside if given the chance

935
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 5: to take over that backfield.

936
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

937
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: I mean again, this goes back to my all thing

938
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: I always think about, and we talk about a lot,

939
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: especially around draft season, is forget the metrics and stuff

940
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: for a second, Like we have to listen to what

941
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: the coaches are telling us. And the Patriots coaches are

942
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: telling us, Uh, you know, they see Trevion Henderson right

943
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: now as a secondary option to ramondre Stevenson. Maybe we

944
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: get to training camp next year in the preseason, maybe

945
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: they tell us a different story.

946
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: But for now, that's kind of what it is.

947
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 3: He's lining up in the slot.

948
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: Oh, please don't.

949
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: Let's let's not do that.

950
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 5: Let's please do you know what he's coming He's lining

951
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 5: up in the slot, folks to the moon.

952
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: I have totally to just ignore that now, Like I

953
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: remember Antonio Gibson lining up in the slide. I got fooled,

954
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, I got fooled with that too many times,

955
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: you know, I remember like one of the first times

956
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: it happened. I think it might have been Oh was

957
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: it David Johnson? Oh, he was one for sure, one

958
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: for sure, And I think I went back and looked

959
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: and like even with him lining up in the slot

960
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: more than he previously did, like the amount of times

961
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: he actually did, it was still so six times, right,

962
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean it was just like it was like something

963
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: like it went from like two percent of his snaps to.

964
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 2: Like five percent of his snaps.

965
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't like a huge jump, and he wasn't

966
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: getting targeted a whole lot more and was targeted on

967
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: like two of them, right, The target number didn't the

968
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: target number didn't go up a whole lot more, And

969
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: it was just like for me, it was like, well,

970
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: at that time, David Johnson was sort of the gold

971
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: standard of pass catching running backs, right, And I'm like,

972
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: if his numbers are only going up minimally, Like what

973
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: am I? How am I gonna get excited about some

974
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: dude who's like barely getting on the field to begin with, Like, yeah,

975
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm not doing.

976
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 3: That no more.

977
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 5: There's not many CMCs and gibbs is and you know

978
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 5: where like they could turn that usage into consistent production.

979
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: Most of them. It's just a little bump here and there,

980
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: and that's it.

981
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 2: The other thing that I'm not gonna find know. Ron

982
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: Rivera's not coaching in the NFL right now, But.

983
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: Like every year that Ron Rivera had a running back

984
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: who had any sort of hands at all, he would

985
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: always be like, yeah, we're gonna use them in a

986
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: CMC kind of role, and everyone be like, like he

987
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: can catch the football, Like that's excited. It's like I stopped.

988
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: He doesn't have his own playbook like had in Caroline.

989
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 1: Right, I stop getting excited about that too him. Like

990
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: you know, if Ron Rivera says they're gonna use him,

991
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: like Christian McCaffrey, like we should all just pump the

992
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: brakes and not get excited about that. Yeah, anything anything else?

993
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: Uh for next year? About as you took out of

994
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: this game, any other guys as year, maybe higher on

995
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: or fading after what you saw in the Super Bowl?

996
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: Right, good time, I'm fading.

997
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 5: I mean this has nothing to do with the Super Bowl, right,

998
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 5: But like I will not be the person drafting Stefan Diggs.

999
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 5: I mean, Cooper Cup has already kind of had behind him,

1000
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 5: but like.

1001
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, depending on Stefan Diggs's legal situation, no one may

1002
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: be drafting him.

1003
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Cardi b certainly is, and we found

1004
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 5: that out. I mean, so is that is that a

1005
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 5: for real thing?

1006
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean I saw the you know, the online shatter

1007
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: that maybe they were no longer an item, which it's

1008
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: got to be a rough day, man, Like you lose

1009
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: a super Bowl, you lose your superstar rapper girlfriend.

1010
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 4: Apparently you're about to lose your freedom, possibly possibly losing

1011
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 4: your freedom.

1012
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1013
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 5: The ruler that I saw was they spent one point

1014
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 5: two million on a super Bowl party and neither one attended.

1015
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: Neither one of them showed up. Yeah, that's crazy.

1016
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 5: Look, they could have lost a million to like monstars

1017
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 5: in the first half school.

1018
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 3: If I paid one point two million to that.

1019
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 2: Party, I'm going to the party.

1020
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: That's like one hundred bucks to them.

1021
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: Even if I'm just sitting in the corner sipping on

1022
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: Seltzer's like I'm going to the car.

1023
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: I'm going to the party, especially knowing the Digs has

1024
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 4: to deal with what he has to deal with.

1025
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 3: Now I'm not I'm drinking something harder than celtzon.

1026
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 5: Boo.

1027
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: All right, we'll split it forwards the next year.

1028
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: Next year, even it's take a break, come back and

1029
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: wrap up the show with I don't know, some sort

1030
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: of nonsense stick around for in the NFL Fantasy Football podcast.

1031
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: So, now that Super.

1032
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: Bowl sixty has wrapped up, super Bowl sixty one, those

1033
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: going to be in our backyard. It's going to be

1034
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: at so Fi Standia. It was very funny that obviously

1035
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: the game this year was on NBC, but obviously, you know,

1036
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: next year it's ESPN ABC that has It was very

1037
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: funny that ESPN did their wrap up, which I'm sure

1038
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: all of you who out there on social media know

1039
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: the three of us here could very well be employees

1040
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: of the Four Letter Network in the very near future. Uh,

1041
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: because business. But it's very funny that our I guess

1042
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: soon to be future corporate overload or lords uh did

1043
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: their Super Bowl sixty wrap up from Sofi Stadium in

1044
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: order to promote that they're going to have the next

1045
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: Super Bowl at They're going to be carrying it from

1046
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium. I was like, you know what, I don't

1047
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: hate it self. Promotion is not a bad thing. So

1048
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: we've gotten to the end of this Super Bowl in

1049
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: this NFL playing season.

1050
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure you have seen.

1051
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about already or at least two

1052
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: early rankings, we're getting rookie you know predictions. I know

1053
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: there've already been you know, draft predictions in mock.

1054
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: Drafts are also floating out here.

1055
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: I want to know right now, on February tenth, your

1056
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl participants, your winner, and if you want to

1057
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: get super saucy your MVP.

1058
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 3: Well, I'm just gonna name the AFC side, right like

1059
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 3: you don't need to.

1060
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: Know, you know, okay, all right, you're putting the.

1061
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 2: Forty nine ers in there on the NFC side, we know,

1062
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 2: a right, yeah.

1063
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: Stop, never stop anyway, AFC. I'm actually gonna go with Jacksonville.

1064
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Trevor Lawrence in the Super Bowl

1065
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 6: next year in LA against the Rams, and I think

1066
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 6: super Bowl MVP we'll go to Matthew Stafford obviously, all.

1067
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: Right, and then he rides off into the sunset at

1068
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: that point.

1069
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, all right, that's.

1070
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 6: Funkyle Lemon gets his you know, Super Bowl ring in

1071
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 6: his first year.

1072
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 3: You know we're already projecting that.

1073
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: Oh so you're so the Rams are drafting. I know

1074
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 2: he was. I think I think Daniel Jeremiah had Mackay Lemon.

1075
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 6: I see too many mock drafts and it makes too

1076
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 6: much sense where I'm like, Okay, he's.

1077
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: Never gonna have this.

1078
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: It's never gonna happen, but I could probably, you know,

1079
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 3: try to put it into the universe that it happens.

1080
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: All right, Florida. The Bills are playing whom in the

1081
00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 2: Super Bowl next year.

1082
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 3: So I'm going to pick the Bills.

1083
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna say what I've said for like five

1084
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 5: years in a row now and I've been zero for five,

1085
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 5: but I continue to believe it with everything that I

1086
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 5: have watching football, right like one of Josh Allen or Lamar.

1087
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: Jackson are winning a Super Bowl next year.

1088
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 5: I just think they are the two best quarterbacks walking

1089
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 5: the planet, and now they've changed what has been problematic

1090
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 5: a lot of the head coaching balls on that.

1091
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 3: So I think one. I think that's the AFC Championship game.

1092
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick the Bills.

1093
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say the Rams, but I'm telling you this

1094
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 5: right now, if Josh and Lamar gets to a super Bowl,

1095
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 5: they're not losing. So I'm gonna say Bills win. Josh

1096
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 5: is the MVP. If the Ravens make it, I'd pick

1097
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,959
Speaker 5: Lamar as the MVP. But I think one of those

1098
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 5: two teams is hoisting up the trophy in LA next year.

1099
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna get nuts.

1100
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: Not I thought I was gonna be crazier until I

1101
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: heard the Quons pick. But what well, no, I mean,

1102
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: because like I was gonna say Jags and Bears in

1103
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Okay, okay, I'll say Jags and Bears

1104
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 1: that you know. Kayleb Williams finally hits the four thousand

1105
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: yard passing.

1106
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 3: Mark for Chicago.

1107
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: Finally happens. Right, I was on it this year. Didn't happen.

1108
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: He was like, but he's like sixty yards short of

1109
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: it or whatever.

1110
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 2: So I think I think he gets that. Next year he.

1111
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: Comes back to Los Angeles where he won a Heisman Trophy.

1112
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 1: He wins a Super Bowl and a Super Bowl MVP,

1113
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: and all our friends who are Bears fans shout out

1114
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: to him. Get to go nuts.

1115
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 3: The era of USC quarterbacks it is.

1116
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: It is. We're gonna go from having no starters in

1117
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl to back to back starters in the

1118
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

1119
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1120
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: And then like, I don't know, it's gonna be a

1121
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 1: while for I think we get another one.

1122
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 5: That's all who do you guys think is the halftime

1123
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 5: show next.

1124
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 3: That's a great conversation. Actually, I do know.

1125
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: Something. It's not gonna be Jelly Roll.

1126
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 3: He's everywhere.

1127
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,959
Speaker 1: Somebody suggested and like, you know, they didn't have a name,

1128
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: but I heard suggested that that the league goes K pop.

1129
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 2: Because there are a.

1130
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: Lot of K pop fans out there, and not just

1131
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about like kids and teenagers, but

1132
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: like you know, they're probably a lot of your favorite

1133
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: fantasy analysts or sports writers that know way more about

1134
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: K pop than you realize, you know.

1135
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 2: So like there'll be a.

1136
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: Whole lot of people that if they name it, you know,

1137
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm not deep in that, you know,

1138
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say BTS just because that's the one I know,

1139
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: but Black Pink maybe I don't know. But like they'll

1140
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: announce it, and then like you'll see a whole lot

1141
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: of people that you didn't expect, just like throwing out

1142
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: like tunes, like giving you Spotify links and YouTube.

1143
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 2: Links of like all these things. Like my kids love the.

1144
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 3: K pod Demai Hunters, so I know they would be

1145
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: very happy with that. And and look, part of the

1146
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 3: little Soda Pop part of the.

1147
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: Bad Bunny thing was to appeal to an international audience,

1148
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: a wide ranging audience. Like you get a K pop

1149
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: group in there, it does the same thing. It brings

1150
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: in a huge international market.

1151
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: So why not.

1152
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 5: I've seen people say Drake, I hope not no, Nah,

1153
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 5: I want I'm gonna continue loss. I think one of

1154
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 5: these years jay Z is going to book himself.

1155
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,479
Speaker 3: Uh, and he's getting kind of up there.

1156
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 5: I jay Z and Friends is what I'm going to

1157
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 5: put my mond, like like he brings out like that

1158
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 5: whole era of music and like it's kind of what.

1159
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 2: It was, you know what.

1160
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: I The reason I don't think that's going to happen

1161
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: is because I think.

1162
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: They're trying to get sort of younger with it.

1163
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 6: Like I think, you know, I mean, my brothers cannot

1164
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 6: name a jay Z album and I was like, oh

1165
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 6: my god, a lost art.

1166
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 2: I look Florida, you will. I will never forget. I

1167
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: will never forget.

1168
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy ripping our hearts out at media row by

1169
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: telling us that Dre and Snoop and Eminem were like

1170
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: his parents' music and he didn't know any of those things.

1171
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 3: He also said Kendrick was ahead of his time. I'm

1172
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 3: sure he was listening to Kendrick the last couple of years.

1173
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: He also, like I asked him the name of who

1174
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: he was listening to, and he like ripped off five

1175
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: artists and I had maybe heard of one, So like

1176
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: that didn't help with me not being old.

1177
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift eventually is gonna do one, right.

1178
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 1: I don't think she'll ever do one, especially if especially

1179
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: that if Travis retires.

1180
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 3: It should have already happened.

1181
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 2: I just don't.

1182
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: I don't think she has an interest in it.

1183
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 5: I didn't think she would do it when she was

1184
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 5: at her peak, but I thought maybe if if that

1185
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 5: starts to wind, I.

1186
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 6: Thought she was going to do it the year Rihanna

1187
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 6: did it, Like I thought that would be the filling

1188
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 6: year for Taylor.

1189
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 2: But that would have been a weird That would have

1190
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: been a weird pairing.

1191
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 6: Not both at the same time. But yeah, with Rihanna

1192
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 6: out completely yet how about.

1193
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 3: How about this? How about a two man show, Bad

1194
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 3: Bunny and Kid Rock that's in the podcasting.

1195
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

1196
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: I mean, either everybody's gonna be happy and satisfied or

1197
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be super upset, you know, like that's you're.

1198
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: Gonna get me. I'm gonna be confused, why is this happening?

1199
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: Or everybody's gonna be super confused as to why exactly

1200
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: the new song bad Buddy, and carefully before we get

1201
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: ourselves in a whole lot of trouble. That'll do it

1202
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: for this edition podcast. They happy save and now they

1203
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 1: do good and live well.

1204
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 3: Enjoy the week.

1205
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: Everybody, take a deep breath, exhale a little bit, and

1206
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: then we get back with the silly season.

1207
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: And we talked to you on Thursday.

1208
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 3: It all about