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<v Speaker 1>So down love someone with de Hi Max, It's Delilah, Delilah.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just stopping my clinging clock. Did you hear it? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Let it clan, let it chime, let it, let it chime.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to talk about your new book, which

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<v Speaker 1>I am holding in my hot little hand. I got

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<v Speaker 1>an advanced copy of Unshakable. Yeah, it is Unshakable Hope,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just have to say I opened it up

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<v Speaker 1>and was like maybe five paragraphs in, and my heart

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<v Speaker 1>was was beating stronger, like like my daughter has asthma

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<v Speaker 1>and when she can't breathe, she has to take abuter

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<v Speaker 1>all and so one time, when she was two or three,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, I want to know what this does. So

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<v Speaker 1>I took a hit of it just to feel what

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<v Speaker 1>she feels when she takes the bull and it makes

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<v Speaker 1>your heart beat faster and you feel you can actually

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<v Speaker 1>feel the oxygen, your blood getting oxygenated. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>maybe five pages, not even not even five pages, five

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<v Speaker 1>or ten paragraphs into Unshakable Hope, and I had that

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<v Speaker 1>physical sensation, Max, of my heart beating stronger, and I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like my blood was getting oxygen eated with Hope.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to hear that. I mean, you know, hope

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<v Speaker 1>can can feel like it's in short supply. And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like if we can just give each other enough

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<v Speaker 1>hope to face these challenges of life that are so

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<v Speaker 1>unspeakably difficult, these uphill stretches that that we're called to climb,

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<v Speaker 1>h then we've done just such a great favor, one

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<v Speaker 1>for the other. Finding hope. It's not easy, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>at all. It's not that you're your gift of storytelling

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<v Speaker 1>and taking stories that you know are two or three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand years old and retelling them in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>that is easy to digest. It's like the albuticle from

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter and made her lungs able to absorb the oxygen.

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<v Speaker 1>Your gift of storytelling max makes us able to absorb

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<v Speaker 1>the wisdom. Well, I really appreciate that. I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, you know, I've I love to tell stories,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm mainly I'm I'm just an old preacher, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh And and so every week I I do what

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<v Speaker 1>you do every night. You have a much harder, harder

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<v Speaker 1>job than I do. But you know, every week I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find a way to encourage people. And uh so,

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<v Speaker 1>so one of the tools I've used over the years

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<v Speaker 1>is UH is teaching people the promises of God. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's about seven thousand promises of God in the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we and if we can learn to tap

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<v Speaker 1>into the power of these promises, I really think that

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<v Speaker 1>it it gives us access to hope that they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like an apothecary of of hope because whenever

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<v Speaker 1>we face particular challenges, if we can be acquainted with

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<v Speaker 1>with the promises of God, will find that there are

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<v Speaker 1>there are promises that match our problems and and getting

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<v Speaker 1>acquainted with these promises really gives us a place to go.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't mean it's going to be easy and and

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<v Speaker 1>there's not gonna be some hard, hard days, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think it does give us hope that that we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get through this challenge and I'm going to stand

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<v Speaker 1>on this particular promise to help me get through it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's UH. Like I said, when I opened the

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<v Speaker 1>book and started reading, that was what I was immediately

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<v Speaker 1>impressed with was your your ability to take those promises

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<v Speaker 1>and share them with us the reader. Even if you've

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<v Speaker 1>been a believer for years or decades, it's easy at

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<v Speaker 1>least for me, when you're in a circumstance to lose

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<v Speaker 1>sight of those promises, yeah, and to feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>circumstances so overwhelming. Yeah, it is. It's just I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>would never want to leave the impression that it's easy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that you're acquainted with really the dark

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<v Speaker 1>knight of the soul. Every one of your listeners has

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<v Speaker 1>gone through seasons in which they wondered if they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to make it through. And I don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think as a pastor even as a friend, I do

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<v Speaker 1>anybody any favor by uh, you know, leaving the impression

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<v Speaker 1>that it's easy. It's just, it's just all we can

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<v Speaker 1>do some days, just to climb out of bed. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, climbing out of bed can be the victory.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I what I want to do is give

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<v Speaker 1>about rolling out onto the floor, rowing, just landing on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. You know what. A For example, here, here's

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<v Speaker 1>a promise from God. It's it's in Psalm thirty and

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<v Speaker 1>verse five, and it's just such a beautiful verse. It

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<v Speaker 1>says weeping may last for the night, but joy comes

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<v Speaker 1>with the morning. I've said, I've used that verse so

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<v Speaker 1>many times as I sit down and talk to somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>uh after church or in their living room when they're

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<v Speaker 1>passing through a tough time, and I just say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that weeping has come your way, but but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna last forever. It's really not the promise

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<v Speaker 1>the promises joy comes. It's not gonna come as quickly

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<v Speaker 1>as you might want, or even in the fashion that

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<v Speaker 1>you want. But would you be willing to just be

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<v Speaker 1>open to the possibility that joy is gonna come? And

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<v Speaker 1>and and and just that verse? I think De Lana

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<v Speaker 1>is an example of sometimes that's all we need somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to do is just say, Okay, weeping comes, but so

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<v Speaker 1>does joy. We don't need an explanation, you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>or even proof, just just a verse from scripture to

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<v Speaker 1>give us enough hope to roll over and fall out

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<v Speaker 1>of bed. When I first I was in my late

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<v Speaker 1>twenties when I came to know God. I had a

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<v Speaker 1>pastor that had me right versus on little note cards

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<v Speaker 1>and talk him in my purse, or put him in

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<v Speaker 1>the bathroom on the mirror, or he said, wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>know you visit most during the day, he says, if

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<v Speaker 1>you go to the coffee pot at work, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>talk one by the coffee pot. Yeah and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>from I said, well, then that would be putting it

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<v Speaker 1>in the refrigerator. But I did that. I took his

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<v Speaker 1>advice and I wrote up, you know, passages that were

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<v Speaker 1>important and I did that. And as I'm reading through

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<v Speaker 1>Unshakable Hope, your new book, um, I'm going to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to actually physically copy down some of these

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful promises and put them on note cards and stick

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<v Speaker 1>them in my pocketbook, and stick them on my refrigerator

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<v Speaker 1>and stick them, you know, on the mirror in the

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom when I brush my teeth, because I need to

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<v Speaker 1>be reminded of those promises right now. Yeah. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the story that we've heard from the Teachings of Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>is the story of the two builders, you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>who built his house on the rock and one who

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<v Speaker 1>built his house on the sand. What they have in

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<v Speaker 1>common is that both of them experienced the storm. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>What they're don't where their stories diverge is that one

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<v Speaker 1>house collapsed in the other house withstood the storm. So

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<v Speaker 1>the message there is that all of us face storms. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>young people, old people, rich people, poor people. Everybody faces storms.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people are destroyed by the storms, and and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we don't want to happen. You know, we've we've

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<v Speaker 1>got to help each other. We've got to help each other.

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<v Speaker 1>And and Jesus said, the difference is the person who

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<v Speaker 1>withstands the story arm is one who here's my teaching

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<v Speaker 1>and applies a life to it. So so the idea

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<v Speaker 1>is not just to hear, not just to know that

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<v Speaker 1>God has spoken, but to begin building your laugh on

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<v Speaker 1>top of a foundation you know that says okay, God

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<v Speaker 1>said this, And so my emotions those are sandy foundations.

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<v Speaker 1>But the rock, Yeah, the rock, that's what we need,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. That's what we need. I actually, um recently

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<v Speaker 1>had an experience that I know it's gonna work great

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm out doing public speaking again or preaching again.

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<v Speaker 1>Because my porch was soggy. I went out on my

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<v Speaker 1>porch and when I would step on it, it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of felt mushy. And so I kept saying, on my hobby,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta go to look at the porch, this one spot.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels kind of mushy. So he says, Okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have my friend DoD come over and we'll tear off

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<v Speaker 1>some of the decking and figured out. So they tear

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<v Speaker 1>off the decking. Comes in, he says, eight news. Good news.

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<v Speaker 1>Point is just mushy in that one spot because the

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<v Speaker 1>decking had got wet and that had done d D

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<v Speaker 1>and we just need to get some new decking. Great.

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<v Speaker 1>A few hours later they came in they said, not

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<v Speaker 1>so great news. Uh, wasn't just a decking issue. Wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>just the top layer. Seems like the beams that run

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<v Speaker 1>under the porch that holds the porch up were not

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<v Speaker 1>continuous beams. The builder had sistered them together and had

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<v Speaker 1>not left enough space and and didn't use heavy duty screws.

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<v Speaker 1>He just nailed two or three boards together and they've collapsed. Great,

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<v Speaker 1>So now they not only have to take the decking off,

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<v Speaker 1>now they're going to have to replace some beams. The

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<v Speaker 1>next day, my husband comes in and he's white as

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<v Speaker 1>a sheet, and I said what he goes, well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more than just the decking or the beams.

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<v Speaker 1>The pads, the cement pads that had been poured to

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<v Speaker 1>hold the whole house. The porch is twelve ft wide

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<v Speaker 1>and it wraps around the whole house, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>metal roof above that is part of the house. The

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<v Speaker 1>paths that were poured under each post. Each post is

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<v Speaker 1>four five ft apart, should have been three or four

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<v Speaker 1>ft square. They were fourteen inches and with all the

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<v Speaker 1>bad weather, they had sunk down into the mud. One

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<v Speaker 1>of them had sunk down eight inches. Literally, my porch

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<v Speaker 1>was falling off, which means my house is compromised. But

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<v Speaker 1>all that to illustrate what you just said. So sorry

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<v Speaker 1>that happened to your house, but it is a perfect illustration.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the most important part of the house is

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<v Speaker 1>the foundation, right exactly. It's it's probably the most expensive. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But but if the foundation's not there, so I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the question would be upon what are we building our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been guilty of building my life on a relay,

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<v Speaker 1>aation ship. I've been guilty of building my life on pleasure,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and we've come to find that people and pleasure,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're terrific, I mean, golly yeah, but but they're

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<v Speaker 1>not stable foundations upon which to build a life. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I think that's a great question, Delilah, that we

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<v Speaker 1>could all ask ourselves right now today, upon what am

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<v Speaker 1>I building my life? And am I staking my hope

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<v Speaker 1>on a person, or upon a retirement account, upon my career.

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<v Speaker 1>If so those that's risky, that's really risk that's really risky.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, Max, I've noticed the last five

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<v Speaker 1>or ten years, people are building their hope or staking

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<v Speaker 1>their hope on political parties, on the current economy. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the silliest thing I ever heard. Yeah, the Bible comes

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<v Speaker 1>at the whole idea of hope very realistically. And and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a passage in the Book of Hebrews I talked

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<v Speaker 1>about in in this book on hope where the Scripture says,

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<v Speaker 1>for we have this hope as an anchor for the soul,

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<v Speaker 1>and not that word anchor, a N C H O R,

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<v Speaker 1>not anger, but a anchor. That speaks to me because

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up even though I didn't grow up on

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<v Speaker 1>the coast, I did grow up fishing, and I know

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose of an anchor. And you don't anchor a

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<v Speaker 1>boat to another boat. You don't anchor a boat to

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<v Speaker 1>a buoy, you don't anchor a boat to a tree.

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<v Speaker 1>You drop that anchor to the bottom of the waterbed

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<v Speaker 1>and you wait until it tugs against something that is

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<v Speaker 1>so rock solid that no matter what storm comes, You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be sucked out to see. And and this

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<v Speaker 1>is what we all need. We just need an anchor.

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<v Speaker 1>We need we need an anchor for the soul. And

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<v Speaker 1>that would just contend that no other person can be

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<v Speaker 1>an anchor. No political party can be an really, no

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<v Speaker 1>religion can. And if you define religion just as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's philosophy about God, but but God himself, I really

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<v Speaker 1>believe can be that anchor. He can be that foundation,

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<v Speaker 1>and consequently we can have the promise of a solid

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<v Speaker 1>hope for our soul. I love the picture you chose

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<v Speaker 1>for the cover of the book. It's red and white

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<v Speaker 1>lighthouse on top of this massive rock and it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a stormy sky out to see. It's beautiful, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful. That's got to be on the East coast. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like something along the New England uh shoreline.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like something you see in Maine, uh, somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>along along that Coastline's beautiful, but such a beautiful representation

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<v Speaker 1>of of what a lighthouse us in the storms of life.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen your share of lighthouses, I'm sure right, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I used to draw and paint them. For I went

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<v Speaker 1>through a season of lighthouses where I probably drew and

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<v Speaker 1>painted twenty or thirty from from the East coast and on

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<v Speaker 1>on the West coast. Yeah, I would go visit them,

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<v Speaker 1>take pictures, learn their history, and then draw or paint them.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't recognize this one. Yeah, you spent a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of your life along the coastlines. I have never

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<v Speaker 1>not lived by the ocean. I've lived on both both

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<v Speaker 1>sides of the US. I have never lived in the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>I have always probably because I was born, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>less than two miles from the ocean. Uh. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>God just has shown mercy and he knows. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the water. But I've always lived Uh. Philadelphia was the

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<v Speaker 1>furthest inland I've ever lived, and that was only fifty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes to the Jersey Show. Are so Yeah, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>love But I love the story of the lighthouse. I

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<v Speaker 1>love what they what they do, and how they work.

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<v Speaker 1>And who knows how many lives have been saved by

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<v Speaker 1>the lighthouses. Ah, but how many millions of lives have

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<v Speaker 1>been saved by unshakable hope. Unshakable hope, You're a special,

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<v Speaker 1>special soul Delilah. Thank you. I know I've told you before,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've been listening to you, Kyle. They I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know over two decades? Could it be that longer? Or

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<v Speaker 1>longer I've been on the air, Max. This September will

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<v Speaker 1>be forty four years. How could that be if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not even I know crazy? Huh? How I found a

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<v Speaker 1>magical time clock to turn back the hands of time? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Just like my my porch, you know, with the eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>instrument pads sinking in the mud. My foundation quickly sank

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<v Speaker 1>in the mud. But your book unshakable. Hope, I hope everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who is going through a dark time right now

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<v Speaker 1>who might be forgetting the promises of God or might

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<v Speaker 1>be questioning them. I actually heard my own mouth saying, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe in God. I just don't believe he cares

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<v Speaker 1>about me right now. Yeah. And and you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I he better care about you. I mean, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say. You don't. I don't think we I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need a God. That sounded terrible for me to

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<v Speaker 1>say that. I mean it all disrespectful, but but God

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<v Speaker 1>sure is shooting better love us. He does, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know that. But your book reminded me of that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and he does. It's just that when your emotions take over,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of cancels out what you know to be true.

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<v Speaker 1>And this book Unshakable Hope for anybody who is going

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<v Speaker 1>through tough time and your faith has been shaken, you

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<v Speaker 1>need to read this book. And if you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>through a tough time, you should get this book, like

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<v Speaker 1>as preventive medicine, because you're gonna go through a tough time,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it true? We're all going to go through stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that old line they say if you're either coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of a hard time, you're in the midst of

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time, or you're just a calendar flip from

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time exactly. So just I take my vitamins

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<v Speaker 1>even when I don't have a cold, to kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, prevent them. I take that airborne stuff when

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<v Speaker 1>I fly on an airplane to prevent it. So I'm saying, Max,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who's not going through a hard time needs your

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<v Speaker 1>book Unshakable Hope, because because they're just that calendar flip

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<v Speaker 1>away from from something that might make them forget God's

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<v Speaker 1>promise that weeping may last through the night. But joy

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<v Speaker 1>does come in all right, Max. Thank you, God bless

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<v Speaker 1>you and your family, and God bless you for writing

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<v Speaker 1>unshakable hope. Thank you so much. You have a great day.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, honey,