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Speaker 1: week at the Star in Frisco, and we are going
Speaker 1: to get into every single spit of it for the
Speaker 1: full hour, entire hour island right now, we have parked
Speaker 1: outside of island. We don't have time like to like,
Speaker 1: you know, bullcrap around the day. We got we need
Speaker 1: three hours, man, we don't need to do There's no
Speaker 1: shows after this. I think we're good. We're just gonna
Speaker 1: keep on rolling. Beam. I know, I know, we've we've
Speaker 1: got places to be, things to do. But guess what
Speaker 1: free agency is here. It's the good, the bad, and
Speaker 1: the ugly of NFL free agency. And we're gonna hit
Speaker 1: all three of those throughout the segments, and initially in
Speaker 1: the rundown that I sent out to you guys, I
Speaker 1: had the good first. I wanted to start off on
Speaker 1: a positive show. I don't think we can now, I
Speaker 1: don't think we can do that magic carpet. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the carpet that was ripped out from underneath
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, and that involves Randy Gregory. Gregor, at
Speaker 1: least earlier this morning, thought to have agreed to terms
Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys in a very not ludicrous, but
Speaker 1: a very large deal, I should say, got his money,
Speaker 1: got his bag, and he looked like he was coming
Speaker 1: back for the Dallas Cowboys. But Rob Phillips as of
Speaker 1: the last oh, this is mere pulling up to Rob
Speaker 1: pie Island. Yeah, Randy Gregory's going to Denver? What he's
Speaker 1: going to? The Denver Broncos apparently tap those brakes, right, spirt.
Speaker 1: So we're taping this at eleven thirty three Central time,
Speaker 1: and literally I think about eleven twenty five am Central time,
Speaker 1: we're finding out that Randy Gregory's apparently going to the Broncos,
Speaker 1: not to the Dallas Cowboys. I'm literally just pulling up
Speaker 1: to the Star right now and hearing that this is
Speaker 1: going down. So I'm I'm still trying to get some
Speaker 1: information on what happened, because as of I don't know,
Speaker 1: about an hour or two ago, he wasn't done, but
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were working on language and trying to trying
Speaker 1: to iron things out and finish it up. That's that
Speaker 1: was my understanding. And now, I mean, the Broncos are
Speaker 1: putting memes out on Twitter that they've got Randy Gregory.
Speaker 1: So that's where we're at right now. I mean, you
Speaker 1: wanted Pee Island. That's what he not a fun play.
Speaker 1: You mentioned how we were at eleven thirty three, it
Speaker 1: was like eleven twenty nine, and then hekma looked over
Speaker 1: at the screen that's got NFL network on and he
Speaker 1: just had the most dejected look on his face. Well,
Speaker 1: I thought it was wrong. I thought it was a
Speaker 1: type yeah, and uh it's not. And well let me
Speaker 1: just start from where I was. I mean, every the
Speaker 1: media is backtracking on it. Now is backtracking on this.
Speaker 1: Everybody had it though, Yeah, everybody had it. S I'm
Speaker 1: looking at the tweet from Schefter right now, Cowboys are
Speaker 1: resigning Randy Gregory because the agent put it out there.
Speaker 1: Exact money, Yeah, but now it's the same money, same deal,
Speaker 1: different place. It is Ultimately what it is, this is
Speaker 1: a yeah, this is uh yeah, that's that. There had
Speaker 1: to be some type of language in the contract something
Speaker 1: I was. I was on my way in here to
Speaker 1: just talk about loyalty and you know, and you know,
Speaker 1: the organization showing loyalty to you and then you in
Speaker 1: turn showing that loyalty back. I didn't, honestly, Isaiah, I
Speaker 1: didn't understand the contract from his standpoint because I'm looking
Speaker 1: at other guys signed bigger deals, and I'm saying to myself, like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, that is definitely a hometown deal for
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory to the Dallas Cowboys, and that says thank
Speaker 1: you for staying down with me and believing in me.
Speaker 1: But this flip flop over to Denver, obviously without pe
Speaker 1: telling us exactly what the language should have. What was
Speaker 1: that's in the contract that obviously flip flopped him at
Speaker 1: the last minute. I'm shocked. I'm shocked, I really am so.
Speaker 1: I just want to see what it is. But of
Speaker 1: all the free agents that we had, Randy Gregory was
Speaker 1: tops amongst the guy that you wanted to bring back
Speaker 1: because of his freaky athleticism, his ability to hunt the quarterback.
Speaker 1: And now it feels as though we are a sort
Speaker 1: of back too. I know we got Tank we gotta
Speaker 1: talk about, but in a way, I think Tank kind
Speaker 1: of solidified himself on one end as a run stopper
Speaker 1: and not so much as a guy that's, you know,
Speaker 1: after the quarterback, which he can do that as well.
Speaker 1: I want to take that away from him. But man,
Speaker 1: I'm shocked. I think everybody is who I think everybody is.
Speaker 1: Way to go, Denver. What are your thoughts, Isaiah? They
Speaker 1: needed him? I agree they really needed this one hurts.
Speaker 1: I'm happy for Randy Gregory as a person. Let's just
Speaker 1: get that out of the way. Got his bag overcame something.
Speaker 1: The story is still there. I still love Randy. He's
Speaker 1: still the guy. I wish he was a Dallas cowboy though.
Speaker 1: That's what hurts is I wish he was here. I
Speaker 1: wish he would have stuck with the initial thought process.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at a tweet from rap report and
Speaker 1: of course this is all just reports, but understanding insisted
Speaker 1: on contract language. Dallas did that Gregory did not like
Speaker 1: protecting themselves. So he heads back to Denver. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's it's all gonna come out now because the agent's
Speaker 1: gonna well, you know, people are gonna be contacting. They're
Speaker 1: gonna yeah, yeah, so Lang, which matters, it does. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to come No, you're good. I just
Speaker 1: I just they needed Gregory. They needed Gregory more than
Speaker 1: they needed d Law. And it's it's nice that they
Speaker 1: have d Law, but they needed Gregory. I will say
Speaker 1: that d Law was a want, Gregory was a need,
Speaker 1: and they got it backwards. Is it because of what
Speaker 1: Heckma just said, the pass rushing ability from Gregory as
Speaker 1: opposed to the run stopping ability from Lawrence? I think
Speaker 1: Gregory dropping down from twenty million dollars a year down
Speaker 1: to ten million dollars a year. I think he asked
Speaker 1: him acknowledging Lawrence. Yeah, d Law. That's sorry, d Law
Speaker 1: making that adjustment in the contract. Wise, he understood where
Speaker 1: where he was at. You know, he had he had
Speaker 1: to come to Jesus moment, and he had acknowledged that, hey,
Speaker 1: this is where I am uh and this is what
Speaker 1: my market is, and he took a deal that was
Speaker 1: bole to both him and the team. Gregory's deal needed
Speaker 1: to get done because now you don't have Gregory. Now
Speaker 1: you have to go get an end. You have to
Speaker 1: go get a rush in. And not only do you
Speaker 1: have to go get a rush in, its like, do
Speaker 1: you get a dominant rush in and spend that same
Speaker 1: money that you're going to spend on Gregory or do
Speaker 1: you spend that money that you're gonna spend on Gregory?
Speaker 1: Go'll get you a B. Wagner and and get somebody
Speaker 1: who can compliment d law right instead of But one
Speaker 1: of the two things have to be. You have to
Speaker 1: get a dominant player art getting somebody else. You have
Speaker 1: to get a goon. You have to get a goon
Speaker 1: at the defensive and position or at the mic linebacker position.
Speaker 1: One of those two. You can't just have okay guys
Speaker 1: at both Michael Parsons to Marcus Lawrence, Randy Gregory only
Speaker 1: played one hundred and forty snaps together this past season.
Speaker 1: In those one hundred and forty snaps, their yards per
Speaker 1: play yards per a tent and QBR allowed would have
Speaker 1: led all thirty two NFL teams in those one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty snaps. Yeah, so they're good on the field together.
Speaker 1: And you know, remember we had this conversation about who's
Speaker 1: getting on the magic Micah bus, right, who's the magic
Speaker 1: who was getting on the bus. And we know Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons is on that bus already. We already said Trayvon Diggs,
Speaker 1: all right, now Tank is on that bus. Now I
Speaker 1: think they're obviously we want to have curse. These are
Speaker 1: guys that are standing on the outside that we're waiting
Speaker 1: to get on. But still this defense, even with everything
Speaker 1: that's happened in the off season, everything that's beginning to
Speaker 1: happen free agency wise, you gotta start to see where
Speaker 1: this team isn't getting any better on both sides of
Speaker 1: the ball. You've lost a key contributor on both sides already.
Speaker 1: Mary Cooper's gone. Yeah, then now Randy Gregory is gone.
Speaker 1: And so that's that's a that's gonna be that's gonna
Speaker 1: be big shoes to feel for a team no matter
Speaker 1: what that's looking for playmakers and we've just lost basically
Speaker 1: a big piece, a big cog in that and that
Speaker 1: will the Cowboys were prepared to sign Gregory to what
Speaker 1: was the what was the money? It was over five
Speaker 1: but it was really a two year, twenty eight million
Speaker 1: dollar deal because all of the money was already precent guaranteed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there was an out after the two years. I
Speaker 1: wonder if that's the change between Denver and Dallas. I
Speaker 1: wonder if Denver came in and say, you know what,
Speaker 1: that's really a two year deal. They're kind of protecting themselves.
Speaker 1: We're gonna just we're gonna make sure that this is
Speaker 1: a five year deal for you. It could be that
Speaker 1: could be the change, or it could be more upfront money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. Um, but that's interesting because you know,
Speaker 1: like with Michael Gallup's deal, and we'll get into Michael
Speaker 1: Gallup resigning as well. It's been a busy a few days.
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of like essentially a two year deal.
Speaker 1: If you really want to drill down on it. Tank
Speaker 1: is a two year deal too, technically, Yeah, so, but again,
Speaker 1: but they're still they were still willing to pay Gregory
Speaker 1: a nice chunk of change, and they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: bad contract. I mean, Von Miller's out there. Our mail
Speaker 1: back question today is a Darius Smith like how how
Speaker 1: active are they going to be and trying to get
Speaker 1: another guy to to Isaiah's point, because man, that you
Speaker 1: thought you had your your your edge rushing duo intact
Speaker 1: and now it's it's yeah, I'm with you. They're gonna
Speaker 1: have to do something, I think, unless they want to
Speaker 1: make it the top priority in the draft, which that's
Speaker 1: not how they operate. They operate by covering themselves before
Speaker 1: the draft and not being I mean, I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised if they go out and sign a wide receiver
Speaker 1: at some point too. Even though you know they lost um,
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson, you think, oh, well they'll draft a guy,
Speaker 1: you know, a handful of receiver. They got a lot
Speaker 1: of things to do, They got a lot of Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got a lot of holes to plug. And it
Speaker 1: seemed like they were on the right track in terms
Speaker 1: of obviously, um, you know, securing Gallop and you know,
Speaker 1: they made their move with Coop, which we knew was
Speaker 1: going to come down to that, and we didn't know
Speaker 1: what they was going to trade them. We thought they're
Speaker 1: gonna just get released, but they were able to trade
Speaker 1: away Coop and it seemed like, you know, we're hearing
Speaker 1: rumors about their ability to hopefully try to bring curse back,
Speaker 1: and it seemed like they were you know, they got
Speaker 1: d laws like Okay, they made it friendly to their
Speaker 1: cap and you know, we're gonna made it him happy,
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, these boys is they making some
Speaker 1: some moves man, as well as making some cap space
Speaker 1: right and now who that rug just got pulled out,
Speaker 1: that road got pulled out. Now they're in a situation
Speaker 1: where I think they're gonna have to sign it, you
Speaker 1: know with Zadarius, Yeah, somebody like that. You have to
Speaker 1: get him. You have to get a Bobby. You got
Speaker 1: to get a big, a big name like that on
Speaker 1: that side of the ball that is a leader, that
Speaker 1: is a leader and has a motor and has proven
Speaker 1: in this league. And that's it. And it is such
Speaker 1: a player that when you play an opposing team, they say, hey,
Speaker 1: you better freaking get this dude under control otherwise to
Speaker 1: erect the whole game. And I think coming into today
Speaker 1: you felt okay, even this morning, you felt pretty good
Speaker 1: about what things were lining up to be because you
Speaker 1: were putting yourself in a position to get your key
Speaker 1: pieces back and then also have a run at a
Speaker 1: potential couple names down the road that can make an
Speaker 1: impact in their own right. You only had lost guys
Speaker 1: like Cedric Wilson. That's that's we kind of expected that
Speaker 1: he was going to go get that back somewhere. William Connor.
Speaker 1: Williams was gone to the Dolphins two years, fourteen million
Speaker 1: for for Connor row number two, which both both guys
Speaker 1: were not expected back now. Cedric, because and I've been
Speaker 1: saying this, he was gonna get a nice deal. I
Speaker 1: didn't think he was to get it the first day
Speaker 1: of free agency, but he got it for him Connor,
Speaker 1: I think they were looking to change that left card
Speaker 1: position exactly. I think really the only thing we were
Speaker 1: surprised about, or that we were upset about, was Amari Cooper,
Speaker 1: and even then we had expected it. It wasn't really
Speaker 1: a surprise that he was surprised by d Law. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I was. I thought it was a pleasant surprise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a pleasant surprise, I thought. I mean, and Coop was
Speaker 1: I knew, we knew that Coop wasn't going to be
Speaker 1: back here. You wanted some kind of competence, compensation. Didn't
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get conversations. You got a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got something. So kudos of them for not just
Speaker 1: releasing him. Right, They got some value for him. So
Speaker 1: if you were going to make that move, now, let
Speaker 1: me standing. I did not want Coop to leave everybody.
Speaker 1: Everybody okay, cool, So I just want to make sure
Speaker 1: that people don't take the twister around. But if you're
Speaker 1: not that, you're gonna lose him. Minus will get something
Speaker 1: for him. Great job. They got some value there. Awesome, Okay,
Speaker 1: but they lost it right now. That receiver room is
Speaker 1: looking thin, scary, it's very scarce, and you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to go grab a veteran like Landry because who's leading
Speaker 1: that room. You gotta go grab a Landry. You gotta
Speaker 1: grab somebody that's that's proven, not necessarily has to be
Speaker 1: a necessarily a dog, but a contributor that is a
Speaker 1: proven leader in this league, because otherwise that room has
Speaker 1: no leadership. It's gotta be Ce Lamb and Michael gall
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I'm thinking. No, no no, no, before
Speaker 1: you do the mic flip, no, I mean Michael Michael
Speaker 1: Gallas for this fifth season, you know, and they just
Speaker 1: paid him sixty two millions. He's got to be a leader.
Speaker 1: CD's your guy now, right, But got stuff. But at
Speaker 1: some point we're gonna have the Ceede Lamb conversation. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have a real conversation about Ceedee Lamb whether he
Speaker 1: can be the number one. We're also going to have
Speaker 1: to start having a real conversation about Kellen Moore in
Speaker 1: his offense. This is a real conversation that has to
Speaker 1: be had going into twenty twenty two. So that way,
Speaker 1: we can't deal with any what the alternate facts are,
Speaker 1: you know, fake news going on with our team, because
Speaker 1: we're dealing with a lot of that right now. You
Speaker 1: talk about the rug being pulled from under us, that's
Speaker 1: all that was. Let's talk about d Law and the
Speaker 1: deal that he that he signed. Come to Jesus moment
Speaker 1: a reality check to go from nineteen million dollars to
Speaker 1: ten million dollars, dude, And not just that, but you
Speaker 1: cut his cap hit for twenty twenty two in half,
Speaker 1: which and I just had this conversation upstairs, like, well,
Speaker 1: that's why they should have tagged Randy Gregory, That's why
Speaker 1: they should have given him the franchise tack. No, because
Speaker 1: they didn't want to carry a twenty million dollars cap chart. Now,
Speaker 1: I guess you could have tagged him with the expectation
Speaker 1: of trying to get a long term deal done. It's
Speaker 1: not guaranteed when you tag somebody, just like Dalton Schultz,
Speaker 1: is not guaranteed they're gonna get a deal done with
Speaker 1: him before July fifteen. No, that's why they probably didn't
Speaker 1: want to do that. But that's why that's why Tanks
Speaker 1: deal is so big, because now you're opening up some cash,
Speaker 1: some space to get some other things done. They want
Speaker 1: to get jay Ron Curse done. That's another guy to
Speaker 1: watch for the next day to the show. If it's
Speaker 1: by the end of the show, I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 1: He's tweeting out already, thank you God, like he's he's
Speaker 1: sending these these cryptic tweets out there saying like something's happening,
Speaker 1: something's going on behind the scenes. So that's curse Twitter.
Speaker 1: It's just saves everything, it really has. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: the instantaneous that's breaking their own news. You're right before
Speaker 1: with the factor Chine, the dial up tone, all online
Speaker 1: morse code crazy. There's a lot going on. This is
Speaker 1: this is as crazy a legal tampering period day as
Speaker 1: I can remember. All let's do it is real quick.
Speaker 1: I know we probably got go to break he in
Speaker 1: a minute. What was your grade when you walked in
Speaker 1: today with the assumption that Kurse was going to be signed,
Speaker 1: because that hasn't happened, signed Hooker's back, right, and you
Speaker 1: got d law under under favorable contract, and you expected
Speaker 1: Gregor to be signed. What was your grade on the
Speaker 1: Cowboys offseason to part so far? I went being c
Speaker 1: to be with with the expectation of those those guys
Speaker 1: coming in. Okay, so you was at a B. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was probably like a B minus. I was right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I felt I didn't feel good about it, but I
Speaker 1: was okay with it. But it still kind of left
Speaker 1: a lot to be desired on the back end. There's
Speaker 1: still a long way to go until we build this role.
Speaker 1: I was at A based upon what I knew they
Speaker 1: were gonna do with Coop. I didn't obviously I didn't
Speaker 1: like that Coup decision. But if you're gonna get rid
Speaker 1: of Coup, they got valid. I think it's impossible to
Speaker 1: be given a grade. Yeah, I would give I'm almo
Speaker 1: as far as they're what they had in terms of retention, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would give an A. I was given an A
Speaker 1: because I didn't think that they were gonna be able
Speaker 1: to get both d Law and Greg back on the
Speaker 1: same roster, as well as get Cursed back and Hooker
Speaker 1: and you know what saying. I didn't think they're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to get all these guys batch. So in
Speaker 1: terms of what they're doing up their numbers wise, they
Speaker 1: were doing a hell of a job, right, And then
Speaker 1: it's an A on defense you throw in the Coop thing,
Speaker 1: and so it was a huge well yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: but I would probably I would probably say it be yeah,
Speaker 1: because I you know, I'm giving it an A basic part.
Speaker 1: We knew that Coop wasn't coming back. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: like the Coop being gone. No, I mean I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, what would it be now? Who? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: asked the question. I know you knew that. I think
Speaker 1: I'm dropping it down to a B minus because they
Speaker 1: can still they can reverse course, and they can still
Speaker 1: they can still make a big splash at half. I
Speaker 1: came into this with the expectation that they were going
Speaker 1: to make a ginormous splash, like a splash move somebody
Speaker 1: who's not on this roster. And I believe that now
Speaker 1: they even more so have to do that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's Yeah. I think it's an incomplete because I
Speaker 1: think they still have work to do now, especially to
Speaker 1: be complete until we get to training. But they weren't.
Speaker 1: They were going to focus on their own guys first think,
Speaker 1: and now you lost one, apparently the thing would And
Speaker 1: I have to say this about Coop. I was, I was.
Speaker 1: I was really numb about the whole Coop deal anywhere.
Speaker 1: I told you, I was like, look, man, how we
Speaker 1: didn't figure out a way to use him all the
Speaker 1: time that we had him, and we gave up to
Speaker 1: get him to then trade him away for a five
Speaker 1: or six. It basically said what we thought about him,
Speaker 1: or we gave up all our leverage in the negotiation
Speaker 1: portion of it. It was the leverage and the contract
Speaker 1: were the two biggest things that didn't give him return.
Speaker 1: Teams were scared away by the twenty million dollars a
Speaker 1: year over the next three years. I think I think,
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree, but I think it was more
Speaker 1: so the fact that teams knew that he was gonna
Speaker 1: be released. I think that into it, sure, I mean,
Speaker 1: and I think the only reason why Cleveland. Cleveland knew
Speaker 1: that he wasn't going to sign with them if he
Speaker 1: went free. So Cleveland was like, let me beat everybody.
Speaker 1: That's a great point. We got a mail back question
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago asking what the Jets do
Speaker 1: it because and it's technically this is not official yet,
Speaker 1: it's gonna get done. I'm confident of that. Uh, because
Speaker 1: the Jets, who would they sign? Would he signed with
Speaker 1: the Jets? No, so go ahead, and would you give
Speaker 1: up like a second round pick that wasn't going to
Speaker 1: happen because of the contract that that that's that's that's
Speaker 1: why deals like this don't happen that often when they
Speaker 1: do amark for a fifth round pick. Yeah, Cleveland was
Speaker 1: not destination for Mary Cooper. He was. No, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think he wanted to stay here. That's I'm
Speaker 1: pretty kind. Like he has said over and over again,
Speaker 1: he wanted to stay. He loves Dallas, wanted to stay
Speaker 1: in Dallas. So that's why do you think the rumor
Speaker 1: has any merit to it? What's that him and him
Speaker 1: in that conversation. None, No, no, I don't want to know.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think someone at all. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you asked that question though, because it's out there and
Speaker 1: a lot of people think it's a real thing. It's
Speaker 1: not a real thing at all. But we can we
Speaker 1: can get into Mary. But but what I was gonna
Speaker 1: say was, I when when I saw what they did
Speaker 1: with Tank, it made me wonder, could they have done
Speaker 1: that with Coop? Should they have done that with Cooper?
Speaker 1: They could have, they could have reworked. Not they to
Speaker 1: do that with Coop? I don't know if they see
Speaker 1: I don't know if they did. I wonder if they
Speaker 1: just decided, look, we got to save money and we're
Speaker 1: gonna yeah we've got a CD Lamb to fall back
Speaker 1: back on. We don't have that. We don't have that
Speaker 1: at the defensive end position. With what they thought was right,
Speaker 1: who's your starting three receivers opening day? Yeah, that's right now.
Speaker 1: I if Michael Gallup is good to go week one,
Speaker 1: which they're hopeful that he will be Ceedee Lamb, Michael
Speaker 1: Gallop and either an unnamed to be signed free agent
Speaker 1: Semi Phoko. I mean, no, I don't know where we're
Speaker 1: at right now. Signack oh no Brown did sign back?
Speaker 1: No Brown, But but that it won't be that it's
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be either a third round, fourth round
Speaker 1: pick or more than likely they're gonna sign I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if they sign a free agent at some point.
Speaker 1: So we're thin, yes, right now, you're thin in a
Speaker 1: wide receiver room. Now you're all of a sudden thin
Speaker 1: at edge rusher. Now you're also thin and linebacker thin
Speaker 1: and tight end anymore? Hey, tight end's taking care of No,
Speaker 1: that's part of this thinking, right because he's a pass catcher.
Speaker 1: Like if they are we talking about you got one
Speaker 1: tight end you let Well that's a good point. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're not starting over a tight end now, not starting
Speaker 1: over there? So you thin? Sound fer thin minute? It's
Speaker 1: girl scout month, mint, I don't know, Summer, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it is. I think of a line then yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's part of the fact that you haven't signed anybody.
Speaker 1: All these guys are leaving and you haven't brought in
Speaker 1: anybody else. How much cat space that we have now?
Speaker 1: I think twenty eight million is what I'm looking at
Speaker 1: right now. Available. I think so under that may not
Speaker 1: be completely accurate, but that's what I've gotten here. Okay,
Speaker 1: so my math could be wrong, and that's not taking
Speaker 1: out the Randy Gregory supposed deal right that doesn't include
Speaker 1: Randy on the book set. My point was, if you
Speaker 1: if you move on from Coope, that opens up space.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this right, I'm not. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's ripe, but I'm saying it's a quantity thing. You retain,
Speaker 1: you create space for Dalton Schultz, Michael Gallup. It gives
Speaker 1: you more flexibility to fill out your roster. I don't
Speaker 1: like it, but I'm just saying that's why. I think
Speaker 1: that's the decision they made at that position. Extreme distaste
Speaker 1: for them, party ways with Coop. Yeah, well Michael Gallups
Speaker 1: gets a deal done. Congratulations from Michael Gallup. He deserves it.
Speaker 1: He's what you want. You want to be able to
Speaker 1: draft guys. They do well in your organization and you
Speaker 1: reward them. I will say, when I'm looking at these
Speaker 1: other contracts that are being handed out, I asked myself, well, Mike,
Speaker 1: did you not think that you know, where are you
Speaker 1: with your knee? And maybe that's the reason why he
Speaker 1: signed such a favorable deal to the Cowboys because he
Speaker 1: could have went out and got way more money a
Speaker 1: lot of than what he signed for. A lot of
Speaker 1: people were thinking it wasn't a favorable deal whenever he
Speaker 1: signed it, because he signed it so early, and it
Speaker 1: was like even before the legal tampering period even opened
Speaker 1: up free agency officially began that the numbers were kind
Speaker 1: of leaked out there. But like now that you're seeing this,
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilsons and Christian Christian Kirk south there and crazy yeah,
Speaker 1: Zay Jones even going back to Jacksonville, if they assigned
Speaker 1: Kirk and Jones those numbers up there, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe this is a team friendly deal more so
Speaker 1: than we thought initially. I mean, Christian Kurks getting what
Speaker 1: eighteen million from Jacksonville, Amar's was twenty That's why hear
Speaker 1: yourself say what you just said, Christian Kirk got eighteen
Speaker 1: million dollars. That's why free that's coming from an aggy too.
Speaker 1: I love my guy. That's this guy, but that's why,
Speaker 1: that's why, that's why fans look at the AMAR thing
Speaker 1: and guys, fans aren't happy because it's like, Okay, he's
Speaker 1: twenty million. Yes, he's twenty million, but he's a productive guy.
Speaker 1: And and to your point, you're right, they gotta they
Speaker 1: gotta recreate it. No, they gotta recreate the production. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about that when we come back on the other
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Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. We're gonna carry over this. We
Speaker 1: were talking in the middle of the break. Jip Jazz,
Speaker 1: you gotta help us out here. Jazz Jazz is running
Speaker 1: in in the back actually doing a fantastic job. I
Speaker 1: want to I want to hear what Isaiah's thought about
Speaker 1: is on the air. I want to hear what are
Speaker 1: you talking about I'm talking about to sign a guy,
Speaker 1: sign a leader in the way. Let me start by
Speaker 1: saying I don't know the man personally, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start by saying that, However, I don't get
Speaker 1: the sense that he is a leader of men in
Speaker 1: that room, speaking of speaking of Cede Lamb, I don't
Speaker 1: get the vibe that he's leading those guys in terms
Speaker 1: of their ability to overcome adversity, in terms of their
Speaker 1: ability to have a sound mind, in terms of their
Speaker 1: ability to be have emotional intelligence. I don't get that
Speaker 1: vibe from him. Now, he very well made possess those capabilities,
Speaker 1: I don't feel that. So I feel as if Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper was that guy for the Cowboys. I feel as
Speaker 1: if Amary Cooper was that level headed guy that could
Speaker 1: speak to those guys from a veteran standpoint and say, hey,
Speaker 1: chill out right, or this is a situation, or hey,
Speaker 1: this is where we need to approach this thing, or hey, guys,
Speaker 1: So everybody looks at him and sees that he's calm,
Speaker 1: cool and colle right, He's not spassing out emotionally. I
Speaker 1: don't see that they have that guy in the locker
Speaker 1: room now at that particular position. So when I say that,
Speaker 1: I believe that they need to go out and attain
Speaker 1: a veteran like a Jarvis Landry. Why do you think
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry was there in Cleveland with O'Dell. He was
Speaker 1: there to keep him under wraps. He wasn't there to
Speaker 1: be the most productive guy in a So you're calling
Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry level headed and veteran leaden compared to what
Speaker 1: you have on the roster right now. Yeah, And the
Speaker 1: thing is, let's just say Amari Cooper is probably never
Speaker 1: spassed out a day in his life. Just who he is,
Speaker 1: most probably say that he's always the call me voice
Speaker 1: in the room. But I think what you're pointing to
Speaker 1: is more of a maturity thing more than anything else.
Speaker 1: And you've seen guys come into the league that have
Speaker 1: maturity things that they do and then they mature into
Speaker 1: their role. Let's just talk about what Ceedee Lamb is
Speaker 1: carrying on his back, and that's those two aids. And
Speaker 1: with those two aids come the expectation of a whole
Speaker 1: organism Z. And he's in a pressure cooker right now.
Speaker 1: That's just the way it is. And so he has
Speaker 1: to produce they look he fell in their lap. And
Speaker 1: Kyle had to run from his apartment too, because he
Speaker 1: didn't think there was gonna be a snowball chance in
Speaker 1: hell that we're gonna be able to get cde Lamb.
Speaker 1: But here he is. And look as much as we
Speaker 1: look at Amari Cooper and his face being indifferent and
Speaker 1: not being that passionate leader that we're used to, he
Speaker 1: still top in the league and what he does. And
Speaker 1: I think that's where the fan base is divided. But
Speaker 1: now the expectation falls solely on cd Lamb, and it's
Speaker 1: and it falls solely on Michael Gallop. And you've had
Speaker 1: those sample sizes in games where you've relied on them
Speaker 1: and you didn't get the production that you were thinking
Speaker 1: that you could. So when you say the room is
Speaker 1: thin and you need a proven leader, I believe I
Speaker 1: can trust that I could go to the bank with that.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, this team, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to let your young guys at least have a peek
Speaker 1: a chance at being that leader. A couple of things
Speaker 1: to piggyback on that point, because you've spent not only
Speaker 1: is he carrying the eighty eight, you spent the seventeenth
Speaker 1: overall pick on CD Lamb. At some point, a seventeenth
Speaker 1: overall pick needs to be the number one receiver. He's
Speaker 1: got to be your wide receiver. One. You didn't spend
Speaker 1: a middle first round pick on a guy who's going
Speaker 1: to be a number two or number three the entirety
Speaker 1: of his career. Second point, Michael Gallup's getting sixty two
Speaker 1: million dollars, I mean he's getting the bag. He got
Speaker 1: the bag not to be a number two or number three.
Speaker 1: He needs to be a one A or one B.
Speaker 1: You have those two guys there. I have no argument
Speaker 1: against anything that either one of you guys are saying.
Speaker 1: In order to be a number one doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: you have to be a leader. No, you're You're right
Speaker 1: on that. That's what I'm talking about. I'm not talking
Speaker 1: about production. I don't question either one of their ability
Speaker 1: to produce on the field. I'm talking about a leader.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about what I'm supposed to be the quarterback
Speaker 1: that you just paid one hundred and forty billion dollars.
Speaker 1: In the room, though, in that room, in that room,
Speaker 1: when the when in that room, when Dak's not throwing
Speaker 1: accurate balls and the velocity is falling off and things
Speaker 1: aren't going their way, and they both in CD's throwing
Speaker 1: a hissy fit because he's mad and the balls not
Speaker 1: coming his way. Be a bad body language. Who's there
Speaker 1: to say, hey, hey, lock it up. You don't have that,
Speaker 1: You don't have it anymore. So if that's going to
Speaker 1: be your leader out there that has bad body language
Speaker 1: and who I don't know. As being said, I could
Speaker 1: just go off what I see, right, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: when when things aren't going well, you can visually see
Speaker 1: that he is angry about it. You can visually see
Speaker 1: that he's that he's up in arms about it. Who
Speaker 1: is in that room now, who's sitting on that bench?
Speaker 1: But we don't have any proof that Amari was actually
Speaker 1: that guy that we do not agree. We have nothing
Speaker 1: but assumptions. We have nothing but assumptions, absolutely, And there's
Speaker 1: also not any proof that anybody you bring in. You
Speaker 1: could go sign at James Washington. I know that name
Speaker 1: has been kind of floating around out there as well.
Speaker 1: You could go sign somebody like that, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that they're going to come in and be that
Speaker 1: guy either. Know, everything is a hope in this league
Speaker 1: everything in this league is hope. No. And that's but
Speaker 1: that's why, like part of me thinks I understand why
Speaker 1: there did it. I understand because at some point you
Speaker 1: got to make these decisions with the cap and I
Speaker 1: don't think it's so much about his personality and he's
Speaker 1: not you know, yeah, all that's with a Mari Like
Speaker 1: they did not touch his contract last year to give
Speaker 1: themselves the option to do this. Yeah, they knew coming
Speaker 1: up in the twenty twenty two this could be an issue,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't. If Michael galluper healthy, I'd feel better
Speaker 1: about it. He's not healthy right now. And so to
Speaker 1: your point, they are thin at the position and you're
Speaker 1: asking Ceede Lamb to step up into that role. I
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with that because he's seventeenth overall
Speaker 1: pick and he's been to the Pro Bowl. Like that's
Speaker 1: kind of the nature of the NFL and this cap
Speaker 1: y can't keep everybody together. You gotta have guys step up,
Speaker 1: and so I see why they did it from that standpoint.
Speaker 1: But you're not better without Amari Cooper. No, you're not.
Speaker 1: Just let me just say this, like I'm a sucker
Speaker 1: for a magic trick, you know, I love a good
Speaker 1: magic trick, Like Randy Gregory just pulled on the SAP.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, David Blaine has the best. Yeah, levit Ac,
Speaker 1: pick a card, shuffle them. You can't guess where it is.
Speaker 1: Like every single year we get caught up in the
Speaker 1: magic trick of this team is better because we did
Speaker 1: made this move in free agency, or we did this
Speaker 1: in the draft, and we come right back to the
Speaker 1: table saying all right, this team is better. All right,
Speaker 1: But now in the offseason, I'm here and Steven say, well,
Speaker 1: we had we thought that last year's roster was going
Speaker 1: to propel us to the Super Bowl. I don't know
Speaker 1: if coming off of the twenty twenty season any of
Speaker 1: us in this room thought that. I thought, hey, we
Speaker 1: could be leaps and bounds better. We can get a
Speaker 1: shot at the NFC East. But even playing in the
Speaker 1: NFC Championship, that seemed like a stretch throughout the season
Speaker 1: we're following falling for the But now in the tailpipe
Speaker 1: right now, and I'm just I just want to call
Speaker 1: it out and let's be real about it, because how
Speaker 1: did we get better with that move? How did we
Speaker 1: get better by letting said go now with the pieces
Speaker 1: that we're losing, all right, And so if we're saying, look,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna go in free agency, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: some guys in free agcy, we're gonna go into the draft.
Speaker 1: How much you were just asking who's going to be
Speaker 1: the starting receivers? Can the starting receiver next year take
Speaker 1: that production that Amari Cooper had. I think he did
Speaker 1: like eight hundred in something yards last year, nine touchdowns,
Speaker 1: seventy eight catches, seventy eight catches. Is that guy gonna
Speaker 1: have seventy eight catches to replace that production? Another question too,
Speaker 1: is without his presence affect that as Dalton Schultz get
Speaker 1: the production he got. I think he's I think he's
Speaker 1: a very good young tight end. But like that's I
Speaker 1: think he benefited from that too. I think that's another
Speaker 1: question asked. And Ceedee Lamb benefited from having Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: on the field, and Michael Galla benefited from having a
Speaker 1: Marie Cooper A little different. When you're a number two
Speaker 1: receiver here, you're not better and Coop for my next trick, well,
Speaker 1: you know, And that's that's where frustration from the fan
Speaker 1: base comes, right that, like on paper, someday or not,
Speaker 1: as it looks like they're headed towards a roster that's
Speaker 1: not gonna be as talent. It's certainly not going to
Speaker 1: be because but but that's why that playoff loss stunk
Speaker 1: so much, because everybody knew this was not And I
Speaker 1: think even if it were a similar roster and it
Speaker 1: was similar in talent, you wouldn't fall for the magic
Speaker 1: trick anyways, because you still didn't make it that far.
Speaker 1: You still didn't go that far, even with a talented
Speaker 1: roster and everything that you felt like was lining up,
Speaker 1: and you still didn't make it to an NFC championship game.
Speaker 1: You didn't make a push to the super Bowl. Because
Speaker 1: of that, I think you could have brought back all
Speaker 1: of these guys and then hit on four of your
Speaker 1: draft picks and you start fourteen and oh, fifteen and oh,
Speaker 1: and fans are still gonna be like winning the playoffs,
Speaker 1: find a way to win in the postseason, because the
Speaker 1: fan base's the same thing. We haven't sniffed the NFC
Speaker 1: championship in twenty six years. You haven't got there. You
Speaker 1: want to win the NFC East. I could tell you
Speaker 1: based off of the moves that the other teams wire making.
Speaker 1: We're gonna win the NFC East again. You'll see the
Speaker 1: T shirt in the grocery store. Hey, why chap malanners.
Speaker 1: They're they're firing up. They've got Carson went stop, just
Speaker 1: go on. You've been serious. If that's where we're like,
Speaker 1: people are sitting there gonna wait a minute, dog, how
Speaker 1: do how does that get us to a super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Because we see the difference when when it was championship time,
Speaker 1: they had an Aaron Donald to get a sack, They
Speaker 1: had a Von Miller to get a sack. They had
Speaker 1: an Odell Beckham that carried that first half before the
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup got warmed up. They had all of those pieces.
Speaker 1: Where are our pieces? No reesus? Just say, dog, is
Speaker 1: we're at that point where you have to start asking
Speaker 1: the tough question, how do we make it better? I
Speaker 1: don't lean on them. I don't lean on them. I
Speaker 1: don't lean on Hope. That's not something that I rest on.
Speaker 1: You know. I think that the big moves have to
Speaker 1: be made. And I think the move today or like
Speaker 1: thereof the rug pool hurt that hurt man and anybody
Speaker 1: that's that's out there saying, oh I know Kyle you
Speaker 1: know the whole draft, and and you know some of
Speaker 1: the young talent. But I don't put expectations on Ricky's
Speaker 1: like that. I don't care whether they're especially unless they're
Speaker 1: a top ten pick. I don't put expectations on I'm
Speaker 1: going to come in and just be a beast and
Speaker 1: be a microL Parson. No, I don't. I don't. That
Speaker 1: was the exception. Not Yes, absolutely, by every sense of
Speaker 1: the imagination. Also, the rug pool today with with Randy Gregory,
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. It took when we had the
Speaker 1: draft show earlier and we expected Randygory on the roster.
Speaker 1: When we recorded, we were talking about and we said
Speaker 1: edge rushers off the board early. Now it's right back
Speaker 1: on the board now if he's not available and you
Speaker 1: don't go get a guy you're talking about maybe an
Speaker 1: address four. Let's answer this question. If you had to
Speaker 1: make one big splash signing what position edge rusher At
Speaker 1: the moment, edge usher, I would say edge rusher or
Speaker 1: interior offensive line. Those would be my two. Because I
Speaker 1: still feel confident you can find a receiver in the draft.
Speaker 1: I know you're talking about leadership, and that's that quality.
Speaker 1: I think the signings of Michael Gallup and then the
Speaker 1: elevation of of CD Lamb. That's got to be your
Speaker 1: leadership in that room. Now those two guys for the
Speaker 1: next couple of years, that's your core. Go get a
Speaker 1: young receiver that can learn underneath those guys. That's where
Speaker 1: I'm at. I'm counting on the draft for the line stuff,
Speaker 1: at least the interior part of it. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I don't know if it's the first round, but
Speaker 1: I mean, what what's the free agent landscape at that position?
Speaker 1: You know, there's a couple of Harts out there, there's
Speaker 1: a couple of guards out there. If you wanted to
Speaker 1: go get a veteran guard and draft your center, if
Speaker 1: let's say Tyler linder Bomb's there at twenty four, sure
Speaker 1: that I would be ecstatic by that. Actually, if you
Speaker 1: went and grabbed a guard and then had your center
Speaker 1: there and take take the center, or if you take
Speaker 1: your guard and go sign a veteran center, either one
Speaker 1: of those. But I would rather make a splash signing
Speaker 1: at one of those positions or at edge rusher, which
Speaker 1: one you choose, to know you got big one edge rusher,
Speaker 1: because I don't know who else is there other than tank.
Speaker 1: You're going edge edge. Yeah. And the reason I'm saying
Speaker 1: edges because you you lose a dynamic on your defense
Speaker 1: that allows you to get aft to the quarterback. We
Speaker 1: lost that. And I know Michael Parsons is special, but
Speaker 1: we play him all over the place. So if he's
Speaker 1: there are games we have him in the middle. There
Speaker 1: are other games that we have mid edge and we
Speaker 1: bump tank down. Now you don't even have that dynamic
Speaker 1: anymore because you need tank coming from off of the end.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I was so excited. I'm gonna go against
Speaker 1: the Green And I think if you're gonna make a
Speaker 1: big splash signing, you're just like making conversation. No, no,
Speaker 1: I mean going back. No. I think if I had
Speaker 1: to make a big splash signing, I know I gotta choose,
Speaker 1: it would be either at the linebacker position or it
Speaker 1: would be at the guard. Let's go we have let's
Speaker 1: just gonna have the conversation. I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 1: get do it. I think Bobby might. I mean I
Speaker 1: would love for Bobby to be here. You guys know that,
Speaker 1: but I think Bobby might if they have enough money
Speaker 1: done in the Charger land. I think they're gonna make you.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't know more than anybody. I'm interested in your
Speaker 1: thought process here. Bobby's what thirty one about to be
Speaker 1: thirty two. He's gonna he's gonna still demand sixteen million. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fine. Money is still going on. I'm sure he'd
Speaker 1: love to play with the Q. Yeah, but they afford money.
Speaker 1: The money is there. It might be there now, it's
Speaker 1: there now. I mean you can take the same deal
Speaker 1: from Randy Gregor if you add Bobby to this roster.
Speaker 1: It's it's a problem on defense. The problem is is
Speaker 1: how explosive is this offense? Because that for years, that's
Speaker 1: where you've laid your hat. You've laid your hat on
Speaker 1: the ability to move people off the ball on your
Speaker 1: offensive line and turns to your running game. Dak can't
Speaker 1: be successful without a solid running game. Let's just say
Speaker 1: it now, Dak needs a running game, which means you
Speaker 1: need an offense a line that can move people off
Speaker 1: the ball. So you better focus on being able to
Speaker 1: get an offensive line that can go ahead and just
Speaker 1: bullrush people down the field so Z can do what
Speaker 1: he does. So I'm gonna do what he does, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with old line. Okay, I'm gonna go to line.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say line. I would love to have a
Speaker 1: big time linebacker, but I'm gonna say old line because
Speaker 1: this team doesn't do anything anything. I don't care how
Speaker 1: well the defense players and gets the ball three and
Speaker 1: outs and all that stuff. It still has to come
Speaker 1: back to the offense. And if this offense can't run
Speaker 1: the ball, then they can't pass the ball. I don't
Speaker 1: disagree with you there, Yeah, I just don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's gonna be the fay. Oh I don't
Speaker 1: think so either, But oh, I'd like to amend my
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Speaker 1: time executive assistant who passed away last week. Um, it's
Speaker 1: tough day for a lot of people in the building,
Speaker 1: everybody the building. So I just wanted to throw that
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, as crazy as it's been that that
Speaker 1: certainly is at the front of a lot of people's
Speaker 1: minds here at the Star, and you even see the
Speaker 1: pictures and the slide shows on the screens throughout the building.
Speaker 1: So certainly our our prayers and condolences as a show
Speaker 1: and the full woman. Absolutely, yes, she was great. I
Speaker 1: mean every time you had an interaction with her, she
Speaker 1: was fantastic. So uh sad that that sad day around
Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. For sure, Glad you brought that up.
Speaker 1: I'm certainly I should have probably said that. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's been a it's been a crazy it has been
Speaker 1: a crazy morning. Okay, let's let's recap what's happened for
Speaker 1: those of you listening and have stuck around this long.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, buckle up? Uh Noah brown Back on
Speaker 1: a one year contract. Michael Callup agreed to a five
Speaker 1: year deal. That's really a two year deal. Malie Cooker
Speaker 1: signing this morning to your contract for Malie Cooker. That's
Speaker 1: pretty good for Dalton Schultz has been issued the franchise
Speaker 1: tag that was later last week. No. Cedric Wilson moving
Speaker 1: on three year contract with the Miami Dolphins. Connor Williams
Speaker 1: also with the Miami offense two years, fourteen million dollars.
Speaker 1: Jeremy Sprinkle is back. Do we have contract details? No?
Speaker 1: Nothing yet. Sorry. Jake McQuaid is back. No fist pump,
Speaker 1: long snapper, nothing. Randy Gregory onto Denver. They had to
Speaker 1: do that. We didn't say the good news. Thank Lawrence resigns.
Speaker 1: Greg's orline has been cut. Is that what there is?
Speaker 1: I don't know if I like calling somebody losing their job.
Speaker 1: I've lost many jobs before. But to the discussions that
Speaker 1: we've had in this role, yeah, okay, we thought that
Speaker 1: he was going to be attached to the hip a fossil.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still not out of the question that
Speaker 1: he's back. Legatron, the greg the leg That was a
Speaker 1: concerning position. Yeah, it still is. There's nobody on the
Speaker 1: roster you talk about. Then they don't have a kicker
Speaker 1: or a punter really at the moment right now, but
Speaker 1: they have a long snapper. Hello, I get the ball
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, somebody snapping his angered still free? Yeah,
Speaker 1: hit it man. And that's that's another position where like
Speaker 1: they would like to resign him, you know, but I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. I appreciate their stance. They're saying, look, you
Speaker 1: think you can go get elsewhere. Yeah, go ahead and
Speaker 1: test the market. Let's see what market you had. Come home,
Speaker 1: they come home back. The Rams released their punter today.
Speaker 1: Who was the first team All Pro? Just real quick,
Speaker 1: I mean like five years ago. Remember how just that
Speaker 1: was such a stabilizing section of the roster. Yes, you
Speaker 1: had LP, you had Dan Bailey, you had Chris Jones,
Speaker 1: and you just knew who it was. It was just
Speaker 1: never had to worry about it. Now it's you know,
Speaker 1: there could be some change. They were both spots. Oh
Speaker 1: maybe they're about to go back to that because they
Speaker 1: have three fifth round picks and there's a shot that
Speaker 1: they go draft the kicker in that fifth round. Exciting
Speaker 1: that's on the table. Oh, that might be the mail
Speaker 1: back question for tomorrow. You want me to answer it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I pop on. I've never done a mailbag,
Speaker 1: but I'll do it. Are there some kickers out there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You like Cameron Dicker out of Texas Dicker the kick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he should go around the fifth round. Kate Yorke out
Speaker 1: of LSU. He got so excited. Isaiah's beside himself at
Speaker 1: the moment. He's a good kicker. K York who's product.
Speaker 1: He's training up here, all right. Yeah, so they've got
Speaker 1: guys that would be available if he cam Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: call him Cameron, Cameron Dicker. Now he's on a first
Speaker 1: dame basis. I'm trying to help my man recover over here.
Speaker 1: I got so excited about that. Back the whole show. Anyway,
Speaker 1: they've got a there's a punter from San Diego State,
Speaker 1: by the way, who's just a total badass, total badass.
Speaker 1: He's super fun to watch. So uh yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: they could go get a kicker and a punter in
Speaker 1: the fifth round and still have an extra fifth left
Speaker 1: over man, So you could potentially look at that as
Speaker 1: a possibility. But that's kind of the update as to
Speaker 1: what is happening with free agency at the moment. What
Speaker 1: has been your favorite so far? Let's talk about the
Speaker 1: good stuff, because we've been fifty minutes of this show
Speaker 1: moaning and complaining and talking about what could have been.
Speaker 1: What is the good things that you've seen from this
Speaker 1: free agency period so far, because of course, by the
Speaker 1: time we record again next week, everything's gonna change again.
Speaker 1: The good thing, for my stance is what they've been
Speaker 1: able to do with the cap space. Very surprising. They've
Speaker 1: been men. They kudos, kudos to them. I'm obviously I'm
Speaker 1: not happy about the coop thing, but the obviously that's
Speaker 1: the cap space is a positive from them. That's a
Speaker 1: part of it. Aside from the coop releasing, I think
Speaker 1: that they've done a magnificent job in regards to the
Speaker 1: cap and im and that's just as a hand hunts
Speaker 1: nice a little golf clap to those guys upstairs. I'm
Speaker 1: maneuvering money around and messing with the paperwork and the
Speaker 1: lawyers and all that jazz. Magnificent job. They are seventh
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now in cap space total cap
Speaker 1: space right this second, they are number seven. Going from
Speaker 1: almost late twenties to seven in a matter of a
Speaker 1: couple of days. Is all right, you know what, man,
Speaker 1: I really appreciate some of the other things that I'm
Speaker 1: hearing that they're doing. Guys that they're thinking about offloading.
Speaker 1: I can appreciate that from the front office, you know,
Speaker 1: making moves, not just allowing guys. And I think in
Speaker 1: the past you've seen cowboys just stay around for way
Speaker 1: too long, way past their productive peers. And I don't
Speaker 1: think that this front office is going to stand for
Speaker 1: that anymore. So the best apology is changed behavior and
Speaker 1: seeing them change their stands on some guys that they
Speaker 1: were high on. I like to hear it. You know.
Speaker 1: Our offensive line is we're worried about Connor Williams going
Speaker 1: to the Dolphins. That's one thing, But look how they
Speaker 1: feel about tearing steel and what I'm hearing about him
Speaker 1: possibly being a starter now at right tackle. I'm okay
Speaker 1: with that. We haven't mentioned Lyle Colin. No, we haven't.
Speaker 1: How do you guys feel about that? That's what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about that one way or another, doesn't appear like
Speaker 1: he's going to be back, whether he's a post to
Speaker 1: you one cut, whether he's traded. I said last week
Speaker 1: that I think that you need to bring him back.
Speaker 1: I still stand behind that. I don't think that you
Speaker 1: bring him back at the number that he was currently at,
Speaker 1: that he was at previously. But I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be hard to find that, you know. I just I
Speaker 1: just think it's I mean, I mean, you feel guys
Speaker 1: feel comfortable about steal and that's that's awesome. Right, he
Speaker 1: stepped up. But this office a line unless they make
Speaker 1: a big splash I still have question marks. I think
Speaker 1: tackle is a sneaky need. I wanted to talk about
Speaker 1: this this morning on the Draft Show. But I think
Speaker 1: tackle is a sneaky need because they're worried about his health,
Speaker 1: they're worried about his longevity and Lyle Collins. They're they're
Speaker 1: worried about him potentially being Lyle Collins again. And if
Speaker 1: he's not that, maybe try and shop him. Go out
Speaker 1: and look where else you can go and see who
Speaker 1: would take him, sign resign him under something that's more favorable. Right, well,
Speaker 1: he's not, he's not. His contracts still, Well, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like pull a d law, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like like you know, like I mean, I've been saying,
Speaker 1: like why couldn't you try him at left guard? Apparently
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem like something they they palatable want to
Speaker 1: do that. So now left guards the need to y'all's point,
Speaker 1: like they got to figure that out. I think Tyler
Speaker 1: Beyandis is probably gonna be your starting center, but maybe not.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, maybe that's a maybe that's a draft need.
Speaker 1: I think the only way to dress left guard next
Speaker 1: to him, And that's that's the reason why I say
Speaker 1: make a big splash at the left guard position. Right,
Speaker 1: Connor's gone, Um, kudos to him getting a contract, But
Speaker 1: like you need a big boy dog. That's the whole
Speaker 1: league knows a defensive line. When they step up, they're like, crap,
Speaker 1: I got this dude, and I look over there and
Speaker 1: I got I got Martin order god dog, and you
Speaker 1: worry a little bit less about beads. If yeah, you
Speaker 1: put two guys and you say I want him in there.
Speaker 1: Either way you want to pick what either side of
Speaker 1: beyantas you want to choose, he gonna have help if
Speaker 1: you have a if you have a goon at that position. Right.
Speaker 1: So that's why I say spending money on the on
Speaker 1: the guard, and then you then you draft the backups
Speaker 1: for the for those for the tackle positions. And the
Speaker 1: only reason Tyler Biadish is not your starting center because
Speaker 1: I think they would rather just see if the draft
Speaker 1: board falls to him. If Tyler Linderbaum is there, he'll
Speaker 1: be your starting center next year. If he's not, it'll
Speaker 1: most likely be Tyler. Be honest, because I think I'm
Speaker 1: with you. They would rather upgrade the guard spot and
Speaker 1: let him play, rather than upgrade the center spot and
Speaker 1: still have a huge question mark over the guard spot
Speaker 1: to his left. Does Linderbaum have any flex? Could he
Speaker 1: play guard for you? Not? Really, No, he could is
Speaker 1: a cent. He's been a center in college. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't want him to do that, Okay, Yeah, he's he's
Speaker 1: too good of a center too. I mean, he'll be
Speaker 1: a starter wherever he goes. And I think the value
Speaker 1: is in a guy that's can be flex There is
Speaker 1: value in that. But that doesn't take away how good
Speaker 1: Linderbaum is. I'm not trying to take anything away from him.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that Beyondest has been on your roster now
Speaker 1: for two years. This is third year, all right, and
Speaker 1: I've seen, I guess in my experience where the organization
Speaker 1: doesn't just throw guys away based off of, you know,
Speaker 1: three years. They still believe that he can become a
Speaker 1: part of the future. And so that's why I think
Speaker 1: going to the left guard, like you said, it's probably
Speaker 1: gonna be in their future versus just bringing on Linda
Speaker 1: Bomb and cutting uh. I don't think they would cut him.
Speaker 1: He would be the backup because he's still on a
Speaker 1: rookie deal and he got him in the fourth round.
Speaker 1: It's not like he's eating up a massive amount of
Speaker 1: I don't see them going away from beyondih. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think that there's any games that we can
Speaker 1: circle and say beyond play like crape. You know there's
Speaker 1: a couple there's a couple of game you look at
Speaker 1: and say, yeah, he doesn't have the reps and he
Speaker 1: still needs to get his eyes right and all those
Speaker 1: type of things that strengths all those kind of things.
Speaker 1: But I don't think there's not any games where you
Speaker 1: just say this dude just getting his butt kicked the
Speaker 1: entire dog on game right Stepford, the freaking uh Jones
Speaker 1: that everybody, but I mean, he destroyed the whole left
Speaker 1: side of it. He was taking everybody out there. But
Speaker 1: I think at some point Isaiah even got got the
Speaker 1: business from yeah, Chris Jones brab me up the studios.
Speaker 1: But I think I mean to that point, sign a
Speaker 1: big time left guard, because your most valuable asset that
Speaker 1: you continue to stand behind us who Dak Prescott yep.
Speaker 1: So if that's your most valuable asset, then protect the interior.
Speaker 1: Protect the interior so that he has zero question marks
Speaker 1: and you have to get the ground game going. I
Speaker 1: go back to this. If they can't run the ball,
Speaker 1: this offense doesn't go. That's that's been my number one
Speaker 1: thing for a while. But I guess I was counting
Speaker 1: on Randy Gregory being back, and as of this taping
Speaker 1: of the show, he's headed to Colorado. So um, yeah,
Speaker 1: Harry and Lloyd, it's more That's that might be the
Speaker 1: most disappointing part of this whole thing, other than me
Speaker 1: wanting Gregory to be back and and loving him as
Speaker 1: a player and loving him as an off the field guy.
Speaker 1: The one thing about Randy not being here is now
Speaker 1: it opens up the need for edge again. And I
Speaker 1: said that earlier in the in the in the show,
Speaker 1: but you thought, at least with him being back, you
Speaker 1: thought your defense was was looking way better. You can
Speaker 1: go get a line back here, Hey, you can go
Speaker 1: go get your safeties back. And now it's like, ok,
Speaker 1: are we gonna have enough time to address the offensive line?
Speaker 1: Are we gonna have to use those those resources to
Speaker 1: go get an edge rusher again? It hurts and you
Speaker 1: can't and you can't just say, hey, Mica being able,
Speaker 1: because who are your linebackers now? Layton Vanderesh is a
Speaker 1: free agent. Yeah, that's what wouldn't totally rule out him
Speaker 1: coming back, but you're think I think it makes it
Speaker 1: more likely that he comes back with Randy Gunno Layton Vanderesh,
Speaker 1: just based off of the money and the allocated dollars
Speaker 1: on that side of the football. Don't you don't think
Speaker 1: it affects it? Yeah, that's that's a tough one. I
Speaker 1: think it does. But but going back to Randy Man,
Speaker 1: I just look this year. I don't want to confuse
Speaker 1: good with special. I see other teams that have special.
Speaker 1: T J. Watt He's special, right, the Bosu brothers, they're special.
Speaker 1: What we're getting is we're getting another guy to fill
Speaker 1: the role. Now that the deal would have been good
Speaker 1: for us as a team, but when are we going
Speaker 1: to get that special guy? It's it's third and eight
Speaker 1: step up and you and he coming, and we don't know.
Speaker 1: We don't have that yet, Micah. But he can't be
Speaker 1: the end all to be all, because if that's the case,
Speaker 1: then teams are gonna do double team him. Who's gonna
Speaker 1: be our other guy? And we still don't have that
Speaker 1: guy yet. Mike is your Swiss army knife who's coming
Speaker 1: from different spots, and honestly, like I mean, I've thought
Speaker 1: Michael was fabulous, but like he benefits from having Randy there.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tank there, Tank rushing inside that was that
Speaker 1: was the beauty of that. Everybody had a had a
Speaker 1: one on one opportunity. So do you would you spend
Speaker 1: money on Chandler Jones? I would. I have to get somebody, specially,
Speaker 1: we gotta get somebody. I gotta get somebody with some bend.
Speaker 1: I gotta get somebody that when when we need it,
Speaker 1: that has a respected official lines they're gonna be going against.
Speaker 1: And everybody did that for Randy Gregory. They knew that
Speaker 1: Randy's that's the thing about Randy that made him so special.
Speaker 1: Dog he'd come off that end and teams have to
Speaker 1: make a decision like call, don't call off side, Please,
Speaker 1: don't call offside. He's gonna be pissed off. Yeah side, Sure,
Speaker 1: No they call off side. He's like, I mean, moves galore,
Speaker 1: I mean answer all of that, man, And you cannot
Speaker 1: duplicate that, Nope, by just saying all we're just gonna
Speaker 1: hear next guy up. I just that's just not where
Speaker 1: we are. Edwarder just tweeted that the Broncos had Randy
Speaker 1: rated higher on their free agent wish list than Chandler Jones. Yep.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at an article right now where Chandler
Speaker 1: Jones was looked at by Denver and who said that,
Speaker 1: So hey, yeah, all right, I mean by the time,
Speaker 1: by the time we reconvene, we'll probably have more answers,
Speaker 1: but right now we don't. We were listening off a
Speaker 1: lot of questions. If there's something positive, I mean, beyond
Speaker 1: the tank space that he created with his new deal.
Speaker 1: I think Malie Cooker's a sneaky good signing because I
Speaker 1: think he played his best down the stretch and maybe
Speaker 1: he's your starter and maybe a year removed Heather year
Speaker 1: removed from the Achilles and he dono news, no news, no, okay,
Speaker 1: nothing right now. And then I mean, there's really nothing
Speaker 1: else in terms of curse yet and some of these
Speaker 1: other names you mentioned, lve nothing yet. But I guarantee
Speaker 1: you as soon as we sign off, as soon as
Speaker 1: we sign off here in the next ten seconds, it's
Speaker 1: going to come down. We will be back on Tuesday
Speaker 1: to break it all down for you. Back here from
Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco for Jazz in the Back. Rob
Speaker 1: Phillips Isaiah stand back for heck Ma Harrison. I'm Kyle
Speaker 1: Yeoman saying so long from the Star in Frisco. We'll
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