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Speaker 3: And along those lines, we have the we spend more

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Speaker 3: We learned about all the fraud going on in Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Great to be with you, John, You laid it out perfectly.

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Speaker 1: I can add another few billion to your total. Remember

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Speaker 2: It's difficult to believe that all this is going on.

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Speaker 1: That's the point, and going back to how you started

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Speaker 3: They've never been punished. They never lose elections, they never

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, you go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what's going to change next year. We're going

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Speaker 1: to kick these people out. They've never faced a candidate

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Speaker 1: national media experience. I know my staff. I've been working

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Speaker 1: It is just too much to take for regular working

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Speaker 1: Yes? Please?

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Speaker 3: Tell me how when we come back, how this califraud

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Speaker 1: Callifraud dot com.

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Speaker 3: What's going to happen when people contact you with these

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Speaker 2: You know, we've seeing what's going on in.

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Speaker 2: So if you go to califraud dot.

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Speaker 3: talking to him. Now, Steve, Steve, So, after somebody types

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're collecting the stories people are writing in. Look,

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Speaker 1: This is like one of the startups done in my career,

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Speaker 1: Exactly and that's there was exactly. It's a job creation scheme.

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Speaker 2: You work in government at any level.

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Speaker 3: Califraud dot com is your friend C A L I,

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Speaker 3: F R A U D. It's a very simple website

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Speaker 3: And you see a white box and just type in

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for coming on. I really enjoy

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Speaker 1: Can talk even longer. Exactly all right, Thank you man,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for to Steve Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Merry Christmas is running for governor on the Republican side,

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Speaker 3: one of the top candidates and.

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Speaker 3: He's a great communicator, having hosted a show on Fox

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Speaker 2: He's got government experience.

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Speaker 3: He was a top advisor to the British Prime Minister

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Speaker 3: this story has been bubbling for some weeks. Now follow

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a fantastic example.

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Speaker 3: There is a property in Chevyott Hill and a man

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Speaker 3: He used fraudulent documents to get an eleven million dollar

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Speaker 2: Targeted for homeless housing.

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Speaker 3: Now, chevy At Hills is a very nice, upscale community

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Speaker 2: Right, nobody wants.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many homeless people suddenly moving into

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Speaker 3: There are so many people walking amongst us, business guys,

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Speaker 2: Now, who was.

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Speaker 3: ten days?

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Speaker 2: The uh, what's that? Current?

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Speaker 3: First uncovered this deal and the thing gets sold twice

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Speaker 3: in two weeks for one price more ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Than the last.

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Speaker 3: The Los Angeles County Affordable Housing Solutions Agency, Kevin Murray

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Speaker 3: was on the board.

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Speaker 2: He now resigns.

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Speaker 3: What did that agency do? They spent measure A sales

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Speaker 3: tax revenue on affordable housing?

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 3: So he's running He's on the board of an agency

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Speaker 3: that spends the tax money meant for homeless housing. You

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Speaker 3: voted for an increase in measure A funding just last

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Speaker 3: nov told you not to people did. And now we're

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Speaker 3: finding out that the guy running the agency paid took

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Speaker 3: twenty seven million dollars in tax money and paid the

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Speaker 3: first guy who bought it for eleven million ten days earlier.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure Steven Taylor wasn't keeping the whole twenty seven million.

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Speaker 2: Why would Kevin Murray spend.

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Speaker 3: The twenty seven million again, where did that money recirculate to?

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Speaker 3: Last week, a Bass representative told the staff at the

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Speaker 3: La County Affordable Housing Solutions Agency that Murray resigned November

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Speaker 3: twenty ninth. Of course, Murray is not commenting. Karen Bass

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Speaker 3: in her office not commenting. Murray has been placed on

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Speaker 3: leave by the Wineguard Center. A second executive, Ben Rosen,

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Speaker 3: the director of real estate development.

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Speaker 2: He's been placed on leave while.

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Speaker 3: The nonprofit conducts an internal review into its housing projects.

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Speaker 3: Right because nobody knew what was going on. So Rosen

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Speaker 3: and Murray blowed twenty seven million dollars on an eleven

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Speaker 3: million dollar property and it was fine by everybody at

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Speaker 3: the Line Guard Center until this story hit the media.

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Speaker 3: It's like, wow, we're gonna put them on leave and

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Speaker 3: do an investigation. And this is just outrageous. This place

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Speaker 3: used to be a nursing home now. People in a

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Speaker 3: nursing home are usually very docile, they don't really cause problems.

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Speaker 2: But homeless housing, oh, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Murray is claiming that he has no prior relationship with

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Speaker 3: Steven Taylor, no continuing relationship, and get this claim from

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Speaker 3: Kevin Murray, taxpayers paid fair market value for the property.

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Speaker 2: The fair market value was eleven million, ten million.

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Speaker 3: Ten days later it's twenty seven million, and Kevin Murray says,

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Speaker 3: well that's fair. This is what we've got and Bass

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Speaker 3: was the broker on the deal. Keep voting the way

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Speaker 3: you're voting. Okay, We've got more coming up on The

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Speaker 3: in California? Speeding ticket or you run over someone with

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Speaker 3: your car and kill them. Well, in some cases, the

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Speaker 3: speeding ticket is worse. You could speed, no accident, no casualties,

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Speaker 3: You're just caught going too fast. In the other case,

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Speaker 3: you do something and you kill another motorist, a pedestrian,

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Speaker 3: a bicyclist, and you've done something wrong and they charge

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Speaker 3: you with a misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter, which can be either

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Speaker 3: a felony or a misdemeanor. So you're guilty of the

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Speaker 3: vehicular manslaughter, but you will get less well, you'll get

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Speaker 3: nothing on your public record potentially. Let me explain cow Matters,

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Speaker 3: which is another good news website on California. Since most

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Speaker 3: of the regular media has abandoned coverage, including just about

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Speaker 3: all the media here in Los Angeles, cal Matters has

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Speaker 3: found that there's something called a misdemeanor diversion program. This

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Speaker 3: was passing twenty twenty by the legislature, So a judge

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Speaker 3: can erase a misdemeanor case from existence what they call

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Speaker 3: low level crimes, so you don't have a stigma. Because

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Speaker 3: having a stigma, you have a conviction on your record. Well,

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Speaker 3: sometimes you can't get work, Sometimes you can't get an

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Speaker 3: apartment because nobody wants a criminal in the workplace. Nobody

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Speaker 3: wants to rent to a criminal, can't trust them. So

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Speaker 3: they extended this so that you could kill somebody while driving,

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Speaker 3: go to a diversion program and you have that vehicular

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Speaker 3: manslaughter charge. Wiped off the books as if it ever

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Speaker 3: happened again. You've actually killed someone. Here's an example. Alison Lyman,

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Speaker 3: she had a son named Connor twenty three. He's riding

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Speaker 3: his motorcycle. An oncoming car made a left turn, collided

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Speaker 3: with him, and Connor Lopez, a piano teacher, died in

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Speaker 3: the roadway. Very sad story. The DA's office charged the driver,

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Speaker 3: Harjeet's Cower, with misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter because she did not

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Speaker 3: yield to oncoming traffic and that caused the fatal crash,

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Speaker 3: killing Connor. And then a prosecutor broke the news to

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Speaker 3: Alison Lyman, the mun the mother, the case could be

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Speaker 3: wiped off car's record and sealed if Kaur asks for

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Speaker 3: a diversion program and a judge grants it. And Lyman said,

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Speaker 3: I'm forty three. I'll have to live the rest of

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Speaker 3: my life without my son, but there'll be no record

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Speaker 3: of it for her. One of the officers kept telling

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Speaker 3: her that it's a low level case, and Lyman said,

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Speaker 3: she took my son's life. But that's how they're seeing

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Speaker 3: low level again. It wasn't declared an accident. She was

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Speaker 3: at fault and charged with vehicular manslaughter and then it

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Speaker 3: gets wiped away. You know, you have to do community service.

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Speaker 3: That kind of nonsense. In twenty twenty, the far left

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Speaker 3: wing let all the criminals, Let all the criminals free.

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Speaker 3: State legislature created diversion for almost all misdemeanors, with few

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Speaker 3: requirements that defendants have to fulfill even if the prosecutor objects.

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Speaker 3: So defense attorneys are requesting diversion.

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Speaker 2: All the time.

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Speaker 3: That's how shoplifting and drug possession got legalized, and now

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Speaker 3: it extends to cases where somebody's died. In fact, how

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Speaker 3: matters I He hadifi three dozen drivers who avoided a

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Speaker 3: vehicular manslaughter conviction by going conviction by going to a

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Speaker 3: diversion program. So suddenly those three vehicular those excuse me,

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Speaker 3: those thirty six vehicular deaths weren't crimes anymore. It's as

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Speaker 3: if they never happened. I'm the people are still dead,

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Speaker 3: the victims, but none of the thirty six drivers are

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Speaker 3: at fault. You could get a misdemeanor charge if you

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Speaker 3: weren't drunk or driving extremely dangerous.

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Speaker 2: However, if you.

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Speaker 3: Get a traffic tickets, the traffic ticket stays on your record. Uh,

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Speaker 3: there was a young man in Los Angeles who fell

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Speaker 3: asleep at the wheel and ran over a bicyclist. He

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Speaker 3: got a red light ticket. A few months after the

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Speaker 3: judge granted diversion, and then he got a speeding ticket. Oh,

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Speaker 3: the speeding ticket, the red light ticket or on his record.

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Speaker 3: But the incident where he fell asleep and ran a

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Speaker 3: bicyclist over and killed.

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Speaker 2: Him, not on the record.

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Speaker 3: Here's a story about a driver involved in a fatal

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty crash. He got two tickets last year, then

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Speaker 3: a drudge grant some diversion, and he.

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Speaker 2: Got a speeding ticket.

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Speaker 3: Well, all those tickets, they're permanently on the record, not

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Speaker 3: the accident where he killed somebody.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I read the other day too that California has some

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Speaker 3: of the weakest DUI law, and I think we talked

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Speaker 3: about it on the air, some of the weakest DUI laws.

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Speaker 2: In the country.

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Speaker 3: And it's just startling because this is such an oppressive

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Speaker 3: nanny state. And yet when it comes to drunk driving,

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Speaker 3: when it comes to killing somebody, because you drove so

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Speaker 3: badly not so much, you don't go to jail and

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Speaker 3: your record is wiped clean. More coming up, now, here's

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Speaker 3: an update from the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey,

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