WEBVTT - #180 - Hitmaka

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<v Speaker 1>Bulet Cap Podcast Special guests in here my guy Young

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<v Speaker 1>Bird aka hit Makers. Yes, yes, welcome, welcome, welcome, Manni

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<v Speaker 1>you have me. Of course, first of all, we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this. Is this a new chain? Yeah, this piece.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna lie when when I left Atlantic, I

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<v Speaker 1>left Atlantic a lot of people like my peers and

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<v Speaker 1>co producers, like it was a bunch of like people

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<v Speaker 1>in close friends talking down like, man, you know he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to empire, like it might not work out for him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Really, Atlantic was really the fume behind the

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<v Speaker 1>fire that was keeping him going. And I put so

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<v Speaker 1>much work in that. I just said it last year,

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<v Speaker 1>like like around this time, beginning the summer last year,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yo, for every Friday for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the summer, it's gonna be a new release and it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna rain hit some niggas and people were just laughing

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<v Speaker 1>at me. And then I would put this emoji up

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<v Speaker 1>and then literally every Friday for the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>whole summer, like I had a hit that came out

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. So I'm like, fuck, I'm just gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>it a change to love the chain. Yeah, bro, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Tory Lanez might get emotional over your chain. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Man, if he hears the story, now

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<v Speaker 1>he got it's the contact. Yeah, but it's like it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't never know that. Sh It's hard. H toy

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing. You know what I'm saying. What is what

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<v Speaker 1>is something like that? Run somebody all together like two

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<v Speaker 1>sixty Jesus man, that's a real uh you know Atlanta house? No,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, it's like a Lamborghini truck. It's a Louisville

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<v Speaker 1>real estate. Nice little four bedroom in Louisville, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Yeah, I've been working hard though, so

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<v Speaker 1>in LA. That'll get you attend on the side of

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<v Speaker 1>the mat four five nothing. I'm moving from LA. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>almost done. I'm building my house in Miami right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where it's at. I'm almost done with building

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<v Speaker 1>my crib. I'm moving in like August something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>No state tax man, that's gonna be epic. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to face state tax I mean, I know the

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<v Speaker 1>gun laws are way more. No, it is. You good,

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<v Speaker 1>it's staying your ground. It's all that stuff, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So you ain't got to worry about

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<v Speaker 1>that out here is ridiculous with like all the bs

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<v Speaker 1>that's going on in LA, Like they got to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out a happy medium with the gun laws in between,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, how they're trying to play

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<v Speaker 1>it because Nigga's acting crazy right now. Yeah, it's crazy

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<v Speaker 1>because like it's so hot in l A and they

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<v Speaker 1>make it so hard for you to like defend yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, but don't you like if you had

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<v Speaker 1>a gun in your crib? Like you straight though, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like I listen, I'm not the expert on the LA

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<v Speaker 1>gun laws. I just know that, like if you were

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<v Speaker 1>driving around with your piece, you got to have your

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<v Speaker 1>bullets separated from the gun and the trunk or some shit.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, well, what if someone runs up on

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<v Speaker 1>me and tries to fucking purpose to kill me? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to rants from fifteen hundred nothing. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he had linked up with some of the the shriffs

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<v Speaker 1>and deputies or whatever. I saw that. I saw that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there there's some people trying to kind of, like,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, have a happy medium because you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to like because you know, there's obviously places where

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<v Speaker 1>you could just roll around open carry and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not to get into politics. People feel how they feel,

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<v Speaker 1>but there has to be a happy medium, especially in

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<v Speaker 1>a place like LA where obviously it's an issue people

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<v Speaker 1>are being targeted. La not the same no more though, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I remember, like even before I think a golden

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<v Speaker 1>era was like supper Club and all that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>even before supper Club, like how I used to watch

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<v Speaker 1>Entourage and be like, man, like you would go to

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<v Speaker 1>the w you go to Roosevelt, you go to this

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<v Speaker 1>spot and it's popping. It ain't even that no more.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't even know, Like if somebody came to

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<v Speaker 1>visit me, like yo, ware to go get some chicks set,

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<v Speaker 1>Like where should we pop out? I couldn't even tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>People always hit me and they're like, yo, I'm in La.

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<v Speaker 1>Where Where? Where where's it at? I'm like, bro, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I be at the crib? Bro, I don't go.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm like, yo, go follow Sean Dickerson.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he's his IG page will tell you. Light room, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>highlight room. Good luck getting in there, though exactly they

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<v Speaker 1>don't be playing at the highlight Room. Good fucking luck

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<v Speaker 1>getting in man. So obviously you signed your situation when

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<v Speaker 1>Empire about a year and a half ago. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>a year and a half. It's on my contract almost

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<v Speaker 1>up and marches up and through that. Obviously you've put

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<v Speaker 1>out some dope music you got, you got artists that

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<v Speaker 1>you've signed under your imprint. You've gotten some big red

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<v Speaker 1>obviously shout out young Blue. You know. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know Blue. Yeah, but we don't know if this is

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<v Speaker 1>We know it's bel Air. I bought it because it

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<v Speaker 1>said Blue on it. Yeah, and we know that he's

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<v Speaker 1>he may or may not own that A part of

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<v Speaker 1>the blue, we don't know. But shout out to our

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<v Speaker 1>guy Blue man. You know. Coming to Empire was was

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<v Speaker 1>really dope. I really wanted to. Like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a little like hate, you know what I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>with me leaving or whatever, leaving a major label system.

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<v Speaker 1>So like I really was, like, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just in a position where I'm gonna show people that

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<v Speaker 1>the hits are following me. They don't have nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with what's happening inside the building internally or who

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<v Speaker 1>what CEO I might be working with or whatever. Like

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<v Speaker 1>the hits is following me. And my team. And as

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<v Speaker 1>you said, the first record that we did that went

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<v Speaker 1>crazy was the Blue Record with Chris and Changed Baddest.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to come out the gate smoking with that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I really appreciate old guys everybody over there. That

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<v Speaker 1>record was like a reoccurring record or whatever. The current Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it gets played over. Yeah. Still the record was top

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<v Speaker 1>ten for forty seven weeks out of the year last Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still very much. Uh. I mean here in LA

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<v Speaker 1>it still pops up as like a power every three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks because it researches so well, yeah, that's crazy. So

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<v Speaker 1>that was a big one and then shit, we ate

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch more after that. So your Atlantic situation, because

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<v Speaker 1>you were obviously producing so much music for a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the artists on the leg, but also you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously put put your single it was a hot box

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<v Speaker 1>stop box, stop box, hot box stop box close enough

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<v Speaker 1>hot box. Yeah, I think the title kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>kept it a little bit too. I remember there were

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<v Speaker 1>some awesome promo items for that song. Yeah, like we

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<v Speaker 1>had made a box that had like a little condoms

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever your vibe was supposed to be. Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>would you say that like like when you were in Atlantic,

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<v Speaker 1>did you have a song deal with them or you

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<v Speaker 1>had to like give them a certain amount of music

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<v Speaker 1>every because I know some producers have those situations like

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<v Speaker 1>I got a Homemie Miners got one of those three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred huh. So this is kind of my situation with

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<v Speaker 1>my career at Atlantic. I had a label deal, I

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<v Speaker 1>was vice president of A and R, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>a song deal of course. And then I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>honest at pretty much every record company and the music business.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a song deal with them right now, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Still, I have a song dealer Empire. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a song deal with Epic Records. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>song deal with Atlantic Records. Of something like that work

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<v Speaker 1>when you create enough leverage for yourself and you just

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<v Speaker 1>known for delivering records instead of positioning yourself to where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I want a hundredth grand a track, or

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<v Speaker 1>I want fifty grand in track, or you might go

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<v Speaker 1>in and say, all right, bet, I want thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>granded track, but you got to get thirty upfront. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get in bulk like costco so they pay you.

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<v Speaker 1>So with me as the way I produce, if I

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<v Speaker 1>was one hundred percent of producer or whatever. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>would just get all the money myself and they would

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<v Speaker 1>pay me for thirty songs upfront, which that probably like

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<v Speaker 1>a million dollar right there or whatever. But the way

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<v Speaker 1>I produce is that I have a bunch of co

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<v Speaker 1>producers that I work with. It's not just one person

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<v Speaker 1>or one man operation. So I'll go and then they'll

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<v Speaker 1>pay me for half of the songs up front, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they'll save the other half for my co producers

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, who realistically might not be getting seventeen to

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<v Speaker 1>five a track, you know what I'm saying. So, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's how it ends up being dope. So if my

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<v Speaker 1>song dealers forty grand at Epic Records, then I meet

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<v Speaker 1>a new producer, I bring them in, I produce something

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<v Speaker 1>on Epic. They're slayd in the system at forty grand

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<v Speaker 1>for that record. So at the very least, if they like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, take me away. When it's like, well I

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<v Speaker 1>got paid twenty grand for my record, you could be

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<v Speaker 1>on your first beat and have a track record inside

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<v Speaker 1>that building infrastructure. So if you keep working without me

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<v Speaker 1>or with me, and keep your foot on the gas,

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<v Speaker 1>you at twenty grand and track. Yeah, I do notice

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<v Speaker 1>like there are some producers that will not give the

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<v Speaker 1>co producers credit or they'll be like the big name

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<v Speaker 1>and then you'll hear the tag you won't like I do,

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<v Speaker 1>notice that you give a lot of love and credit

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<v Speaker 1>to the people you collaborate with. Hell yeah, because ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>like I programmed Beasts before, I've done all that or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've done stuff on my album, I've done stuff

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<v Speaker 1>on other releases that have come out. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same token, it was like, I'm just so creative and

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<v Speaker 1>I just work at such a high level with you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. I'm trying to make ten records

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<v Speaker 1>at night, so like to actually have as many songs

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<v Speaker 1>and have as many things going. I think I had

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and twenty seven placements last year, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably not physically possible to make two something songs a

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<v Speaker 1>year and maybe fire fire and react and get plaques

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<v Speaker 1>form and all the other stuff. I just saw. You

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<v Speaker 1>just hit a milestone. Was it a one hundred million sould? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm involved with one hundred million records sold that I've

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<v Speaker 1>either produced or co wrote, and that's super blessing. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a year ago I was at seventy so

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<v Speaker 1>you had thirty million in a year. Yeah, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean two hundred and seventy seven placements will do

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<v Speaker 1>that for You had the numbers kind of match up

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<v Speaker 1>to that, you know what I'm saying. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's like eleven billion streams and one hundred million, so

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<v Speaker 1>I get the plaque when two days. So you've been

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<v Speaker 1>like active since you were a kid. Yeah. Now was

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<v Speaker 1>Bloodline Records and DMX your initial introduction to I guess

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<v Speaker 1>the industry. Yeah, pretty much. That was like my first

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<v Speaker 1>record deal. And the crazy thing about that is that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the story, Like I started in Chicago with

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of guys that were like, well, it's people

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<v Speaker 1>that notable. So I can say bugs who works with

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<v Speaker 1>Kanye's my brother? Yeah, I just saw I just saw

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<v Speaker 1>him at the Push the show. Yeoh. He literally taught

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<v Speaker 1>me how to be a producer. Robson, Yeah, Like he

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<v Speaker 1>did everything with me. He produced my whole entire demo

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<v Speaker 1>which got me signed the Bloodline and he was basically

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<v Speaker 1>essentially what I am right now. But actually he was

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<v Speaker 1>programming and doing stuff like that then. But books basically

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<v Speaker 1>had relationships with no idea with Kanye with different people,

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<v Speaker 1>and my whole demo was produced by bugs no Idea

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<v Speaker 1>so far, and he's a great guy and we still

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<v Speaker 1>work together like he's still my mentor he's killing it

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Yeah, so like me books and then back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day, they were a group called L E.

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<v Speaker 1>P which transitioned to Infrared and they were like the

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<v Speaker 1>street guys behind us, and I had a bidding war

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Everybody wanted to sign me. Rockefeller wanted how

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<v Speaker 1>old are you at this time? Fourteen? Yeah, so Rockefeller

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to sign me, Tommy Boy wanted to sign me,

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<v Speaker 1>Depth Jam, just the whole DMX everybody. And the crazy

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<v Speaker 1>thing is how I ended up meeting DMX was Eve

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<v Speaker 1>stylists introduced me to DMX or whatever at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And the crazy thing is we ended up on meeting

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<v Speaker 1>at what these bitches want from a Nigga video set

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<v Speaker 1>at at Paramount Lot in Hollywood still to this day

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<v Speaker 1>in LA and I remember it. It was like fucking

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<v Speaker 1>Eliyah was there. Dragon, DMX met the man. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like a two day they shoot a crazy vibe. I

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<v Speaker 1>meet DMX and like DMX like they like trying to

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<v Speaker 1>introduce me to X and like back then, I was

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<v Speaker 1>like four foot four, like I was really like a

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<v Speaker 1>little guy, and uh DMX, like it was shortly, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go smoke this and and I'm all back. He

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<v Speaker 1>had like a few chicks with him and like open

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<v Speaker 1>his hand had a bunch of caliweed or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 1>he went smoked. I went out on the trailer and

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<v Speaker 1>they basically was like rap. He was like rap for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, all right, bet so I rapped and

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<v Speaker 1>I think I kicked like one of the Twister type flows.

0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I said, like on that vibe and he's like, shorty, relax,

0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand the fucking words you said. Give me

0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.440
<v Speaker 1>a different vibe. So I ended up spinning another verse,

0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.559
<v Speaker 1>which they went crazy for because I'm like a little

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<v Speaker 1>kid going crazy. But like I had so many bricks

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<v Speaker 1>in my wraps and all those stuff, like I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking super street shit and left my demo. The next day,

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<v Speaker 1>I came back to the video set and like DMX

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<v Speaker 1>was banging my demo out the trailer like loud, like

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<v Speaker 1>going crazy to it, and it was bugs with me.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all these same people, these same guys, and

0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:06.040
<v Speaker 1>I remember Kevin Lous walked up to me. He was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you ready for your life to change. I'm like, man, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you like your life by the change from this day.

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<v Speaker 1>And then DMX ended up signing me the Bloodline Records. Wow,

0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.760
<v Speaker 1>it was Bloodline through Death jam Yeah through Death. Shout

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<v Speaker 1>to Kevin Lyle, stand up guy, Yeah Man, shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to keV Man. Speaking of keV Man, I got song

0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.080
<v Speaker 1>deal with three hundreds. Still look at this all these

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<v Speaker 1>years later, to be it's crazy that I worked so

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<v Speaker 1>closely with Tina Davis, who was like with depth Ja

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a kid, and then now I worked

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<v Speaker 1>Impament or whatever, and it is what it is. So

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<v Speaker 1>you met DMX ended up signing with Bloodline. Obviously the

0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:38.959
<v Speaker 1>Bloodline thing probably didn't work out. I think it, like

0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:40.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of us had hoped it would have. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that X just wasn't ready to run his

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<v Speaker 1>own company like that or whatever, Like he was just

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<v Speaker 1>too big, like because that was like, uh, what was

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<v Speaker 1>that before? That was like right before the Great Depression? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is like cause and there was X

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<v Speaker 1>was that was that was that? Was that that what

0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:00.679
<v Speaker 1>these bitches want was on that album. Yeah, So it

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<v Speaker 1>was right after in the midst of that album and

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<v Speaker 1>right out there, I think this What comes to mind

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<v Speaker 1>is I remember being in Toronto when we were filming

0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Exit Wounds with Steven Seagal and all that other you

0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.280
<v Speaker 1>were there. Yeah, I stayed with X the whole time

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<v Speaker 1>while he did Exit Wounds. That's crazy. Yep, I remember that.

0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.760
<v Speaker 1>And wasn't Dragon in that movie. Yep, drag was in

0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.560
<v Speaker 1>a movie. Everybody was out there, like Toronto was crazy,

0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.839
<v Speaker 1>and like that's how like another thing went viral when

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<v Speaker 1>I was promoting thought Box. That's how dmxtle my first

0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:29.720
<v Speaker 1>piece of pussy. When I was like a kid, like

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<v Speaker 1>we had went to a club and like met a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of girls. We got back in a car, like

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I was in the back seat feeling up

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<v Speaker 1>the girls, she feeling on me. Whatever. We going to

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<v Speaker 1>my hotel room. I'm literally like putting my key in

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<v Speaker 1>a hotel and like the man is like a dog

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<v Speaker 1>in real life, Like he just opened up the door

0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.839
<v Speaker 1>of his suite. Was like, yo, ma, I think you

0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.480
<v Speaker 1>lover a person here. And she had never been to

0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the hotel or nothing, and she literally left me and

0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:59.000
<v Speaker 1>went in DMX room and got up purse DMX at

0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.840
<v Speaker 1>that time, he is, you know, the biggest motherfucker on

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<v Speaker 1>the planet. Yeah, Like, man, I don't know what we say,

0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.600
<v Speaker 1>like equivalent, what was he like? Right? You know what's

0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.240
<v Speaker 1>crazy because when I was a kid going to like

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<v Speaker 1>the Hard Knock Life Tour, I left, like, you know,

0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.599
<v Speaker 1>I loved jay Z, but like I was there to

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<v Speaker 1>see DMX. So DMX went on before Hove, which at

0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the time was kind of crazy because DMX was the

0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.000
<v Speaker 1>bigger artist at the time. You think they were like

0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:28.280
<v Speaker 1>swapping headlining. No, because it was that was the I

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<v Speaker 1>was a Rockefeller tour. It was a Hard Knock Life

0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:35.960
<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, So I remember DMX performed and just destroyed it.

0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:40.760
<v Speaker 1>And you know, Jay's stage energy is different than DMX,

0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.880
<v Speaker 1>so it's like night and day. DMX just got to praying,

0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.280
<v Speaker 1>crying off stage and before that, Method Made and Raymond

0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.640
<v Speaker 1>were flying around. I went to the concert. I remember that, Yeah,

0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and when Hove went on, like it was cool, but

0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:55.000
<v Speaker 1>like me and my cousin left, you know what I mean,

0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.280
<v Speaker 1>shout out to Hope. But I saw Hope thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>so now obviously you get through the bloodline thing and

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<v Speaker 1>then you start catching a wave as a solo artist

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<v Speaker 1>young Berg. Now that's like I was Iceberg then with

0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:40.120
<v Speaker 1>in DMX era and then I became young Berg and

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<v Speaker 1>your was your first, uh what was your first like

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<v Speaker 1>big record as young Berg because you had a few.

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<v Speaker 1>Sexy Lady was the big record that I started here?

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<v Speaker 1>Who was on the hook? It was a guy named Junior.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of like similar to how like I create a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch well, you know, I've created a lot of records

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<v Speaker 1>like in my career, like a bunch of the singers

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<v Speaker 1>or people that were on my reference to Homi. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like they were just people that I were working with

0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:06.680
<v Speaker 1>artist or that turned into artists that I will work

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<v Speaker 1>with as well. And I still do that in my

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<v Speaker 1>career right now, Like I have a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 1>that are I meet his songwriters that I empower and

0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:15.880
<v Speaker 1>their dream is to be an artist. So that ends

0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.560
<v Speaker 1>up happening. But Sexy Lady is a crazy story because

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<v Speaker 1>remember club called Privilege, Yeah I heard of it. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>TK who now works for Hypnosis. You remember the promoter

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<v Speaker 1>TK that used to do Privilege, Well, man, he did

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<v Speaker 1>every crazy Listen when Sexy Lady came out, I was

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<v Speaker 1>like eighteen and is an intern in Phoenix. Okay, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was too. Actually I was going to say

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<v Speaker 1>you and I did did some clubs together, some eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>and up clubs in Arizona during that I was like

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen at the same time. And the funny thing is

0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:52.639
<v Speaker 1>my weed man at the time was a club promoter

0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:56.320
<v Speaker 1>at the club, and he ended up introducing me to

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Echo from Power one six or whatever and Echo

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<v Speaker 1>with just go and just like playing my record in

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<v Speaker 1>the club. And I used to come in there like

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<v Speaker 1>super young kid chin chill on, just wilding out or whatever.

0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.520
<v Speaker 1>And then we built like a group of people to

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<v Speaker 1>where a community to where like my manager would hand

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<v Speaker 1>out a clipboard everywhere, would get everybody's email, get everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>number or whatever, and tell them it was for parties,

0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:21.840
<v Speaker 1>but it turned into being a number for them to

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<v Speaker 1>call for Power one oh six to play my record.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh shit. So I went and Echo took me into

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<v Speaker 1>a mixing meeting at Power one oh six. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know nobody, and he went in there like, yo, this

0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.520
<v Speaker 1>record is reacting crazy in the clubs. This is this kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and they brought me in at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>mixing meeting. I went in there, I told my life

0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.760
<v Speaker 1>story pretty much. I cried through the water works on

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<v Speaker 1>them for a little bit at the end of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then next thing I know, it started off at

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Show. It was a light rotation and then before

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<v Speaker 1>I even got a record deal out in Power rotation

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<v Speaker 1>with that independent. Yeah, no, that's crazy. That doesn't happen.

0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:54.199
<v Speaker 1>That was crazy. That was like one of the that

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<v Speaker 1>was a wild thing. I've never seen it happen like that.

0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.400
<v Speaker 1>That's a very you. That's like a unicorn situation, man.

0:18:59.600 --> 0:19:01.840
<v Speaker 1>And with me not being from l A as well,

0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:04.399
<v Speaker 1>was even the kicks, Right, you're not from LA or

0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.800
<v Speaker 1>don't have a label behind you. Yeah, that's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't happen, man. Yeah, that's a crazy story. So

0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.320
<v Speaker 1>from there you get your deal. Yeap, that got you signed? Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>that got me signed. An epic shout out to Charlie

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<v Speaker 1>Walk Katie Welly, my bro Billy J who still manages

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<v Speaker 1>with me. Now. Basically my bro Billy J worked for

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<v Speaker 1>John Monopoly and we like in the same age, and

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<v Speaker 1>he literally hit up Katie he was looking for someone

0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.280
<v Speaker 1>else that was working in epic. Katie Welly ended up

0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.680
<v Speaker 1>answering the phone. Katie was an assistant at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Took me to Keith nafterly they came to like one

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<v Speaker 1>of my performances that I did out here in La.

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<v Speaker 1>It went crazy and then Ship I got a label

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<v Speaker 1>deal from there. What was the other record that you

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<v Speaker 1>had that all the bitches used to grind to? I

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<v Speaker 1>played Business the business, Oh my god. That was after

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<v Speaker 1>c So it started with just love that still you

0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:58.359
<v Speaker 1>can still play. You can still drop that Ship like

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<v Speaker 1>as a oh wow. Yeah, niggas like you were Drake

0:20:00.840 --> 0:20:03.960
<v Speaker 1>before Drake, like you were singing I'm like, bro, shut up, bro,

0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.639
<v Speaker 1>no Drake and Drake I was me. But the crazy

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<v Speaker 1>thing about it was that was after Sexy Can I. Yeah,

0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:14.679
<v Speaker 1>Sexy Can I was a moment. So it was Sexy Lady,

0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.040
<v Speaker 1>then Sexy can I. So look how I get the

0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:20.600
<v Speaker 1>Sexy can I record? I think, you know, ray J

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<v Speaker 1>was legendary. I think it's like a little he was

0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:27.000
<v Speaker 1>just he was a sniper back then. Like I loved

0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:29.880
<v Speaker 1>ray J so real Coxsmith, you know, I put him

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<v Speaker 1>on my ep and then from there we ended up

0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.840
<v Speaker 1>being cool and he hit me out the blue and

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Yo, I got this record. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>Sexy can I? You got, you got the Sexy Lady.

0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.600
<v Speaker 1>We do the Sexy can I. I'm like, bro, you

0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.600
<v Speaker 1>want to be the sexiest nigga in the world. Yo,

0:20:45.680 --> 0:20:47.879
<v Speaker 1>How I'm gonna go from Sexy Lady Sexy can I?

0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.320
<v Speaker 1>And I already had the song of Business right, so

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<v Speaker 1>like I was thinking, like I knew where I wanted

0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.919
<v Speaker 1>to go with my next record, and from there they

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<v Speaker 1>they flew me to New York because I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing the record Charlie Walker, I'll never forget it.

0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:02.680
<v Speaker 1>I come in this office. He's a president of EPIC.

0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:05.679
<v Speaker 1>He's dancing on top of a grand piano and Charlie

0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:07.720
<v Speaker 1>walks like a little dude, like he probably like five

0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:11.479
<v Speaker 1>five two. He's dancing. He's turned up to Sexy Cannot

0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:12.879
<v Speaker 1>playing a song. I don't know if he was like

0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:15.080
<v Speaker 1>playing a trick on me or whatever. So he's like, Yo,

0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:17.120
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be the biggest record of your career. It's

0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:18.919
<v Speaker 1>gonna be one of the biggest ones. D da da da,

0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:20.480
<v Speaker 1>And I was just like, I don't want to do it.

0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:22.199
<v Speaker 1>He's like, what's gonna take you to do this record?

0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yo, call Jason at Beverly Hills and buy

0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:27.959
<v Speaker 1>me an epic record Shane right now. And he called Jason.

0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.760
<v Speaker 1>It probably came out my budget or whatever, but they

0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:34.080
<v Speaker 1>made me an epic record chain and then where's that now?

0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I gave it to one of the homies I used

0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:38.360
<v Speaker 1>to wear it back in the day or whatever. That's

0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:40.800
<v Speaker 1>such a random chain, Like I got an epic record chain.

0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:43.639
<v Speaker 1>Literally have an epic record Shane with my face on

0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:45.479
<v Speaker 1>the back of it in my album title and all

0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:47.560
<v Speaker 1>that and shout out to Jason Beverly here. So in

0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:49.479
<v Speaker 1>order for you to get on Sexy Canna, they had

0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:52.280
<v Speaker 1>to provide you with the epic records chain. Yeah, damn,

0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and Sexy Can I ain't gonna lie it still is.

0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:57.760
<v Speaker 1>It's like diamond or some shit like that, like if

0:21:57.800 --> 0:21:59.919
<v Speaker 1>you kind of like, I don't even know how to

0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.800
<v Speaker 1>equated to added up because the sales was so different.

0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it probably sold like six million singles. But

0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 1>then you got to think about ring tones and then

0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:11.880
<v Speaker 1>see whatever, it was a bunch of shit going on. Yeah,

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:13.880
<v Speaker 1>it was a different, different era where you actually had

0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:17.160
<v Speaker 1>to ring back ring tone, you had to actually set

0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:20.159
<v Speaker 1>I remember going to the store and buying like a

0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:24.200
<v Speaker 1>single on a CD like that. Shit was crazy. Yeah,

0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:27.120
<v Speaker 1>they have the instrumental the remix. Yeah, so sexy Ken.

0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like it was a blessing though, because I'll

0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:34.000
<v Speaker 1>never forget when we did the final record. What year

0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:37.320
<v Speaker 1>was that? Eight damn yep yep. So when we did

0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:39.520
<v Speaker 1>when we were finalizing the record, I wrote my little

0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:44.320
<v Speaker 1>verses or whatever. I wrote my verses like in Miami,

0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and I went to the studio with my friend at

0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.400
<v Speaker 1>the time, the girl who sang the hook on the business, Casher,

0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and I went with and and ray J. We went

0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:55.120
<v Speaker 1>to Encore and ray J was there. It's like after

0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:57.199
<v Speaker 1>he did this Vivid deal or whatever, so like he

0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:00.639
<v Speaker 1>was on a different level, like he was we've all everyone'

0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 1>seen his dick by this time. Bro, he's in a

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:05.560
<v Speaker 1>different bag. So we go in there and like he's

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:08.800
<v Speaker 1>asking cash or like, yo, you mind if I play

0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:11.439
<v Speaker 1>these play these videos. He pulls out like DVDs and

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:13.760
<v Speaker 1>it's like vivid porns and ship or whatever, and like

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, bro, play that ship. I don't care, Like

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is different. It's my homie, Like this

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:20.600
<v Speaker 1>is my girl. Like it's just saying this ain't no

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:25.439
<v Speaker 1>super duper relationship. It's like my best friend. So Tierre

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:26.960
<v Speaker 1>Marie was there with him and I think that was

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:29.159
<v Speaker 1>his girlfriend at the time. While we're doing it crazy

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:33.359
<v Speaker 1>enough and he did that. We finished the record and

0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:36.440
<v Speaker 1>we went to Miami. We shot the video and upon

0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.200
<v Speaker 1>shooting the video, like the first take of the video,

0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:42.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm smoking up a blunt. It's probably like a roach.

0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Were about to shoot the first shot in hell at once,

0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:47.760
<v Speaker 1>and I throw it out the Lamborghini. The police that

0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.040
<v Speaker 1>was securing us on the set came and picked up

0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the roach and took me to jail before the first

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 1>shot of the whole video on sex. Yeah, we was

0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 1>in Miami because you threw a blunt out. Yeah, they

0:23:57.080 --> 0:23:59.120
<v Speaker 1>took me to jail. On the set of Sexy Ken

0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I I went into jail and the crazy to get

0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:04.679
<v Speaker 1>Shaquille and Ray j was partners, and Shaquille O'Neil ended

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:06.200
<v Speaker 1>up bailing me out of jail and so I could

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:07.800
<v Speaker 1>come back to the video. I didn't get out of

0:24:07.880 --> 0:24:10.439
<v Speaker 1>jail until probably wait, shaq bailed you out? Yeah, I

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't get out of jail until probably like I and PM.

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 1>So it's from like nine am like it out to

0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>night jail. Yeah. Oh man, Yeah, I recently had a

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty four hour little jail sit down. That shit sucks. Ye,

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:31.120
<v Speaker 1>that terrible. Using the toilet paper as a pillow. Yeoh bro,

0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 1>jail is not it? It is not it. Stay away,

0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>ladies and jentlemen. Damn that's crazy. Yeah, out shack man.

0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 1>And then obviously, like I feel like, at what point

0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:45.359
<v Speaker 1>in time did you make a conscientious effort to start

0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 1>branding hit Maker and start kind of not being necessarily

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:52.159
<v Speaker 1>the face of the music and working more behind the scenes. Probably,

0:24:52.200 --> 0:24:55.679
<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, I was still after like because you

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:57.400
<v Speaker 1>were doing like love and hip hop and shit, right,

0:24:57.520 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I was put after that after that, so like but sweet,

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 1>so boom, all that stuff happens, and my career kind

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.680
<v Speaker 1>of calms down as a rapper. I had the partner

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.000
<v Speaker 1>ways with Epic Records, and then I was just lost

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>in the sauce for a while. I didn't know I

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 1>was on. I just kept doing mixtapes. I ended up

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:17.439
<v Speaker 1>meeting DJ ill Will and Different I Will Yeah, and

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:20.679
<v Speaker 1>then doing mixtapes. And then when I finally made like

0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the Conscious Effort. The first song I think anybody ever

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:27.240
<v Speaker 1>heard me say hitmaker on was for a DJ Infamous

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 1>who's out of Atlanta. He had he had like a

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>collap album. And then I did it single with a

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:36.040
<v Speaker 1>song called double Cup. It was WITHJ I was doing

0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the hook, performing the hook, g Z and Ludacris. I

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:40.520
<v Speaker 1>remember that record, and that was a dope record. Time

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I said a hit maker and that was a record

0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I delivered to him. That was a hard record too.

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I remember that ship. I think I was living in Tampa.

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Was that like twenty fourteen, way before that. I think

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>that's like eleven in Vegas. That was yeah, that was

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 1>when I was in Vegas. I was like, I remember

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the song though, Yeah, shout out to Infamous. That was

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 1>like eleven. That was like mixtape Ara Juicy J. When

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:00.760
<v Speaker 1>Juicy had the mixtape Ship. It was like Bads and

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.359
<v Speaker 1>make You Dance Jay Like he was going crazy. He

0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.080
<v Speaker 1>was going crazy. So that's the first time you said

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:10.120
<v Speaker 1>hit maker, did you Because at a certain point in time,

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 1>like you said, like things kind of started to slow

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:14.360
<v Speaker 1>down for you in terms of like the young Berg thing,

0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Like obviously a bunch of shit happened. You kind of

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 1>had a stigma attached you. How hard was it to

0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>fight through that era of your career because some people

0:26:21.560 --> 0:26:24.119
<v Speaker 1>aren't built to survive some of the shit that you

0:26:24.280 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 1>had to go through. Yeah, it was pretty devastating, you

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, because like all I knew was music,

0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Like we just spoke, like I got my first deal

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:34.680
<v Speaker 1>at thirteen, I dropped your whole life. Yeah, I dropped

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>out of high school in ninth grade, and so all

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I knew was music or whatever. And then then go

0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:42.640
<v Speaker 1>through that and it not be something like a lot

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:44.880
<v Speaker 1>of the trial trip relations I went through went personally

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 1>my mistakes. It was about me being around the wrong

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:50.200
<v Speaker 1>people or me not surrounding myself with people that wanted

0:26:50.200 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 1>to see me win. So to no, it was like

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:55.240
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't self inflicted, Like it hurt even more so.

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Luckily I had enough finances or whatever, and my dad

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>believed in me a bunch or whatever of it. And

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I just decided, like, man, one day, like they just

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 1>don't want this shit for me, Like this shit is

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 1>still fired, but they just don't want it for me.

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>So then I just switched the whole player. That takes

0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of humility too, because we were just having

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 1>a discussion about an artist that we both know who's

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>a talented writer. But it's like egos a motherfucker, And

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:24.919
<v Speaker 1>it's very much like hard to take yourself out of

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>the spotlight. Like it's like it's still your shit, You're

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:31.479
<v Speaker 1>still getting your money off it, but it ain't your

0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 1>face attached to it. But I think at that point, man,

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:37.719
<v Speaker 1>I did all the craziest things that I wanted to do.

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Like you got that out of your system? Yeah? Like bro,

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 1>like I've literally like entertained seven women at one time

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:45.679
<v Speaker 1>or just like you had an eight suit, yes, like

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:48.800
<v Speaker 1>wild out, bugged out stuff. You gotta breakwall first of

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>all seven women and you Yeah, that seems like it

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 1>could be stressful. It was just a party. It was

0:27:57.240 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 1>a party, yeah, like everybody was it really? Like are

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>you like lining them up? Like I think everybody had

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>attention on everybody. Okay, okay, it wasn't like specific to one,

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Like, it wasn't no rules

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>on it. It was just like we were all in,

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, like bang bros. Like they'll stack like ashes

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.760
<v Speaker 1>on top of it. Did you do that? I ain't

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:17.840
<v Speaker 1>do that. I was still young though. I was still like,

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>you gotta think this sexy lady, sexy? Can I raise

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>a eraror like you gotta remember I was like eighteen

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 1>nineteen on Explosive on the Chronic two thousand and one

0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 1>one riding Dick one. Look at my toes, and what's

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:33.600
<v Speaker 1>this the case for you? I'm not really a feet

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:36.880
<v Speaker 1>type of guy. I'm not fun neither am I neither

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>of my I'm not touching your feet. No, no no, no no,

0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 1>no no. I'll I'll suck at my wife's feet. But

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I would feel kind of strange if she wanted to

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>suck on my feet. I'd be like, I'm a grown

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>ass man, why are you sucking on my toes? I'm

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 1>good off both. I don't want to suck no toes.

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>You gotta suck myne So you had eight sims. You

0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you kind of got a lot of shit out of

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>your system. So you start running the behind the scenes

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>plays and it's so crazy because I remember I might

0:29:02.200 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>have been talking to it might have been like Geasy

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:12.479
<v Speaker 1>or somebody maybe in like twenty sixteen seventeen, where like

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I finally realized that hit maker was you the g

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>and I did that. I think that was around the

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>time I did nineteen forty two for G Easy. It

0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 1>was before that. It was before that, because I remember

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 1>him bringing you up and I'd already know who you

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>were in that right, because that was a later record.

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you did such a good job of like

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>because I'm you know, at the time, I wasn't living

0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>in LA and I wasn't like going to studio sessions

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 1>like I do now. I wasn't as like entrenched in

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 1>like the industry side of things, So I just would

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:42.959
<v Speaker 1>hear your tag and shit, and I had no idea

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>that it was. I'm like, oh shit, that was yeah,

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 1>that was that was interesting. I used to do like

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 1>different tags or whatever. That was also a struggle too,

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of people, like when you're coming up,

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 1>they didn't want my tag on. They shit, you know

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:55.840
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying now, People will pay me to put

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>my tag on they shit like approach me. I don't

0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 1>do that, but I've had massive people approach me and

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 1>be like, you put my tag on the package, I'll

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>get like thirty grand, thirty grand, But I don't do

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>it because it's hard to like not be able to

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 1>explain a record. All these records, I'm pretty much I'm

0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:12.160
<v Speaker 1>involved from the birth to the end. I'm the guy

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that has the demo, that does the demo with the

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:16.880
<v Speaker 1>co writer, that does everything, and then I'm the guy

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that mixes it and turns it into the labels. So

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I think, man, I was trying to sneak in. Another time,

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I got the hit maker shit off. I did my

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 1>hoes they do drugs, a record for King Louis, Juicy

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>J and Push your Teeth And that's when Push Your

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 1>te found out that I was young berg still and

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I was hit making at the same time or whatever,

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.080
<v Speaker 1>and that was another sneaky one, and infamous one came out.

0:30:39.080 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>And then after that I moved back to LA and

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I actually end up beating Vincent Herbert and this is

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>when like he had God got and he was over

0:30:47.760 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>an in the Scope and Tamar Braxton I ended up

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>working with her and did a record with her, and

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I signed my publishing deal with Mike Karen based off that,

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 1>and that's what brought me back to LA and it's

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I was, so I'm so connected from the love and

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 1>hip hop shit that was twenty fourteen. So that was

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.120
<v Speaker 1>after you moved back to LA. Yeah, So I moved

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>back to LA. I produced a couple cuts, and then

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I was working with a few different people doing the

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>whole APG Mike Karen move and then from there I

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>was at APG. Well, some life changing shit happened in

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 1>those moments. I ended up meeting Jeremiah. Like during that

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 1>time all you guys have had countless Yeah, Like I

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>ended up meeting j and then damn, Like before Love

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 1>and hip Hop, I didn't know Jay and I was

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:35.959
<v Speaker 1>just doing my cuts and like nobody knew that, Like

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>it was no way to be like man to associate

0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:43.719
<v Speaker 1>me with that or whatever. So I actually was like,

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 1>fuck it, I'm gonna do love and hip Hop because

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to like let people know that I that

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I was doing shit. And now in the process of

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>starting doing the love and hip hop, that's when I

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 1>meet Jeremiah that's when I was at APG at Mike

0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Karen Studio and popping. Okay, I stumbled across some of

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>that beats and I went and I did a hook

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>to it, and I named it Nicki and hit Maker,

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, yo, I'm gonna meet Nicki Minaj. I'm

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>telling you I'm gonna start working with it. Well, I

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>was just talking shit, hyping myself up. And then one

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>day I go to Glenwood Studio and a guy named

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Sounds who's like a producer, friend of mine or whatever.

0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>I was with him, just chilling with him and found

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>out my boy was like, Yo, Nicki Minaj in the

0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>other room. I'm like, oh shit, go tell I'm here.

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>I want to play some shit. When they came and

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>got me, I played it some shit and from there, like,

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 1>I got really close with Nicki and just was locked in.

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>So then I'm doing love and hip hop and I'm like, okay,

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna really we ain't start shooting yet, we were

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>about to start shooting. I'm like, okay, this shit makes

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 1>sense for me to start shooting this shit becuz I

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>could just go and tell everybody I'm working with Puffy.

0:32:44.280 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm working with Nicki Minaj whatever, and I was so

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 1>cool with them that they wasn't mad at me saying

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>it on TV? Was it like? Because I feel like

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.760
<v Speaker 1>the love and hip hop think can be good in

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 1>a bat like it could either be good for your

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>career or it can negatively affect what you got going

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 1>on because there is a stigma to love and hip hop. Like,

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 1>how did you how do you feel like it affected

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>your ship? It was drama, you know what I'm saying.

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>But that just come with the love and hip hop ship.

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>But to me, honestly, like because who I was on

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>that show on the show at the same time you

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>run ray J. Was that when like Molly mal was

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>on there and Molly Mal Soldier boy, little Fish Jesus ship.

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>That is pretty little think about it. That's what that

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>would omarion. So yeah, that was that first season and

0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>it was it was cool. I mean, you know ship

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>at that point, I didn't have ship, you know what

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I was trying to get my exposure. I

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>was somewhat trying to regroup. I had a couple of cuts.

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>But you know how it is when you're a producer

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and a songwriter. Initially You'll have a couple joints that

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>were like when a bona fide hit, It wasn't like

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>a holy ship moment, you know, and it was just like, Okay,

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>you got a single, you got a couple of placements

0:33:54.520 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And then from there I ended up. After that,

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I left, and then that's when Nikki came out. And

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 1>which records did you do for Nikki? Shit? Want some more?

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Buy a hard Shanghai? I don't know. I think like

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 1>five records on a pink remember, Yeah, that was like

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen. Yeah, that's crazy, man. Do you remember your

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 1>first like the first record that kind of changed things

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:22.800
<v Speaker 1>for you as quote unquote hitmaker, like that first plaque,

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>well plaques, I guess it was that. But the record

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:28.839
<v Speaker 1>that changed my whole career probably is Big Sean Bounce Back.

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:32.919
<v Speaker 1>And I was working this after Love and Hip Hop.

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I went on tour with Jeremiah and he was on

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>tour with j Cole and Big Sean and YG and like,

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I went on the whole tour with Jay and then

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>we got off tour and then I was just working

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 1>with Jay, continually working, and then I formed a somewhat

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 1>of relationship with Big Sean. So I was like, yo,

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 1>like I want to get you records like I've been

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 1>already vibing with Sean. Ended up getting him that record.

0:34:53.680 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Me and a lot of people don't know me and

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Jeremiah came up with the hook to bounce back or

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>whatever like. We just did it at my crib up basement.

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 1>I had like a big ass crib in Chatsworth. I

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:05.880
<v Speaker 1>bought like a seven seven thousand square foot crib in

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 1>it by myself. I didn't have much furniture. I was

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.080
<v Speaker 1>just in that thugging with girls every day, and I

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>set up a makeshift studio. J came to my crib.

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>We did that record. I played it for Sean. He

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.640
<v Speaker 1>did it and he was like, yo, like I don't

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:20.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like I like this record, A lot

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>of people like it. Let's just throw it out there,

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know if it's a single, I don't

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.520
<v Speaker 1>think this, And I'm like, yo, this shit is out

0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:28.279
<v Speaker 1>of here, and there metro booming that added on the

0:35:28.320 --> 0:35:31.759
<v Speaker 1>record shot to Smash David, who also co produced the

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>record with me, and then from there he threw that

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 1>shit out and it was out of here, stupid, and

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 1>then it was in all types of Super Bowl commercials

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and licenses and sinks, and then I think it was

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 1>it performed his biggest record of his career, like sololy

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:46.319
<v Speaker 1>By hisself. I think it went number two on Hot

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:48.040
<v Speaker 1>one hundred, and the shit was like, no, it was

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:49.880
<v Speaker 1>a huge even time flying something like yeah, no, no,

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 1>what is what was that twenty seventeen or eighteen? I

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:57.280
<v Speaker 1>was like, twenty sixteen wasn't it? Was it? What album

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:58.879
<v Speaker 1>was that was that on? No? No, it was twenty

0:35:58.960 --> 0:36:02.399
<v Speaker 1>seventeen seventeen going into twenty eighteen, and then right then

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:05.080
<v Speaker 1>from there I end up becoming a vice president an

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:08.280
<v Speaker 1>R and Atlantic Damn. So when you're a vice president

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 1>of an R, because like I get really I think

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 1>I got a good grasp on the importance of an

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 1>A and R. But I feel like most people who

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>just hear that word don't really understand what an an

0:36:19.800 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>R brings to the table, what they do, what the

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:24.359
<v Speaker 1>job description is, because I see a lot of people

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>out here call themselves an rs, but they're they're not there.

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the fuck they're doing but taking

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.120
<v Speaker 1>pictures in the studio session exactly. So what would you

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 1>say is like the key role of like what an

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:37.080
<v Speaker 1>A and R, like a good an R brings to

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:40.319
<v Speaker 1>the table. To me, I think it's like it's one

0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>of two things. Like for me personally from what I've seen,

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:47.959
<v Speaker 1>Either you're a person like me who's a creative who's

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 1>going to come in that if necessarily not gonna make

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>the record with you or whatever, but it's going to

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:57.720
<v Speaker 1>be able to call a hit maker, call a metro booman,

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 1>call of this person, whatever you need, whatever, you're the

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>right people in the room together with you in the

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:04.239
<v Speaker 1>right place for this shit to happen for your shit

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>to be good creatively. Or you could just be a

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>guy that just knows the building and just gonna champion

0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 1>you in a building and knows how to connect all

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the dots. That's not creative, you know what I'm saying,

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 1>So linking me with the right video directly, you know

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.320
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Just putting all the the in the

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 1>building type of shit together. You know what I'm saying.

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>That's staying on a Guazi or standing on a Craig

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Calman and in a line raised face or in a

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 1>teen of David's face, like yo, this is my art.

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying like championing you inside the building.

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>There's just kind of like two different types of an rs.

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah for real, because like we think of like what

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you do right, You'll probably be like, Yo, I got

0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:41.320
<v Speaker 1>this young artist that would sound dope with this writer

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 1>that might sound dope with this producer, set up a session.

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Shit me personally, Hell now, if i'm your A and R,

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm making the songs with you. Yeah, but then you're

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the producer that Yeah, so I'm pretty much your producer.

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 1>If you get me a an R, I'm your producer.

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Damn yeah. Because I always feel like, you know, we

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.480
<v Speaker 1>hear people say what the fuck does an an R do?

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, it's there's a lot of shit, but it's

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.879
<v Speaker 1>also like some people are just holding titles. I feel like, yeah,

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>but if you and some people, that's because it's just

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 1>a big revolving door in the music industry as far

0:38:10.640 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>as like positions and shit like that or whatever, because

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>people have relationships. But to me, I would empower all

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 1>the young producers like myself or whatever like that, don't

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>be scared to get in a building. Being a building

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>has been super beneficial for me. I talk to a

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of people a lot of people be like, man,

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:29.840
<v Speaker 1>like it might stifle me creatively, and I'm like, hell no.

0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.240
<v Speaker 1>When I work with Atlantic, shit, they bought my studio

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 1>for me. They paid for me to be in a

0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:37.320
<v Speaker 1>studio twenty four to seven. So like I really I

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 1>went to the A and R meetings and I did

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.880
<v Speaker 1>all the different stuff or whatever, but it was just

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 1>like empowering me. Yeah, you gotta. It's like any situation

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>you got to figure out. How Like I don't use

0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 1>the word finesse, but kind of finessas in it like,

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>if you can have Atlantic pay for your fucking recording studio,

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>imagine how much more money you're gonna get out of

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:56.759
<v Speaker 1>that studio. And my deals are not exclusive with only

0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:58.879
<v Speaker 1>one company. I've never I've yet to do a deal

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:01.640
<v Speaker 1>to where it's just like, yeah, I'm only making records

0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 1>for this company and no other person can pay me

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 1>for a record. How cause you know, nowadays, I feel

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 1>like the producer market is more saturated than ever. It's

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:16.960
<v Speaker 1>kind of like DJ's Once Serrado came out, everybody could

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 1>be a fucking DJ, right, And I feel like nowadays

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:20.880
<v Speaker 1>with production, it's kind of the same with Splice and

0:39:21.000 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, shit like that. You know. So, if there's

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 1>like up and coming producers, how like, what would be

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 1>the advice you would give them to stick out and

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>to just kind of break through? Because I feel like

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:35.800
<v Speaker 1>there's once you break through a certain ceiling as a producer,

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:38.799
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<v Speaker 1>Let's get back to the podcast. Yeah, I think, man, shit,

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<v Speaker 1>be selfless. You know you don't sign help me as

0:40:30.920 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 1>many people as possible change their lives, you know what

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, Like, put as many people in position as

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 1>you can. That's why I work with anybody. I don't

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>have like a souper like, oh no, you can't come

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 1>make a record with me. Like if you hot and

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:43.880
<v Speaker 1>you dope, like and you a co writer and you

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 1>a co producer, I'm gonna welcome that in because it

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 1>might be a point to where I'm not HoTT and

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:51.000
<v Speaker 1>you could throw me a bone. I think it's just

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:54.319
<v Speaker 1>creating a whole community around yourself to where you can

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.520
<v Speaker 1>look back and you change so many people lives and

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 1>like a circle of successes like Dame and like they

0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:02.839
<v Speaker 1>talking about it, because like somebody can pull you right

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>up or and make sure you keep your relationships good

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 1>with all the people that you work with if you

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 1>just start, and it would be dope. And my thing

0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:12.200
<v Speaker 1>is like if you could catch one artist that you

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like is somebody that has the same driving mentality

0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 1>as you and y'all blow up together. Then that's super

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 1>beneficial to build an artist sound. And that's one thing

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 1>that I really didn't have the opportunity to do as

0:41:27.239 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>a producer because I was already operating on such a

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 1>high level once I was in a position that I

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:34.640
<v Speaker 1>was just working with everybody. But I didn't really like, well,

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing that now. I feel like with Tink or

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 1>whatever and all the stuff that we got going on,

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 1>But I didn't really come up with one guy like

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 1>how also, and you didn't come up with Tink she

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:49.839
<v Speaker 1>already for years. Yeah, But I'm just saying, like doing

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.360
<v Speaker 1>a whole album like how a Metro would do Future

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 1>or south Side, you know what I'm saying, all the

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>different you know, you kind of did that with the

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean I just in terms of doing the whole album,

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 1>the Jeremi Tie record, yeah, which, by the way, that

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:04.320
<v Speaker 1>shit was so criminally slept on. You know why I

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:07.399
<v Speaker 1>was fucked up two labels. Yeah, that's all every time

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:09.560
<v Speaker 1>it happens. I think that Depth Jam was kind of

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 1>like in a weird space at that time too when

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:14.839
<v Speaker 1>we put it out, and because I don't know if

0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 1>anybody was at the seat, you know what I'm saying,

0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.880
<v Speaker 1>remember like of that moment where nobody was actually the pressure.

0:42:19.880 --> 0:42:21.880
<v Speaker 1>It seemed like for a while def Jam was very

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck are they doing over there? It was

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>an interesting time. And then I be honest, the record

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 1>that we use is a single. The higher ups at

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Atlantic didn't want it to be the single on the

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:36.400
<v Speaker 1>group album. They wanted it to be the single on

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Ties album. And I'm like, nah, like Tye already got hits,

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.239
<v Speaker 1>we got Pineapple, we got this, when we got that

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:44.120
<v Speaker 1>one or whatever, like let's leave this for the group.

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:46.840
<v Speaker 1>And I think that they just both were uninterested on

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:48.960
<v Speaker 1>pushing it like how it was and that shit is

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:51.839
<v Speaker 1>a fire great project. And it's crazy because I feel

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 1>like any time that happens where there's like two labels,

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>somehow it gets like it just happened with them. The

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:00.759
<v Speaker 1>six tape two with being on Black. I just talked

0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:02.800
<v Speaker 1>to Blast about this. I was like, Yo, there was

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>like hits on that album. It's just two labels, two

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:09.840
<v Speaker 1>men cooks in the kitchen. Man too many cooks in

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:12.799
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen, and like you know these motherfuckers, they're like, well,

0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 1>what about your ship? Yeah, And they didn't what we

0:43:15.760 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 1>said they wanted it to tie. You know what I'm saying,

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Like everybody, when you think about two different labels and

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:24.840
<v Speaker 1>two different artists on two different labels, their intentions is

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to keep the smash for them and their building, you

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:31.280
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, more so than share a smash

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:34.399
<v Speaker 1>with another label. I saw. I think it was last

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 1>year you had uh brought up a versus against Mustard potentially,

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people thought you were absolutely crazy.

0:43:41.840 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I know it didn't just him, well, he thought you

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:47.360
<v Speaker 1>were crazy. And it was funny because when I was

0:43:47.400 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>talking to I was like, you know what, like, wow,

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:54.919
<v Speaker 1>Mustard has bigger records. I mean, you know in terms

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 1>of like uh, the Rihanna, the fucking I'm not saying

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:00.840
<v Speaker 1>you don't. What I'm saying is I just thought that,

0:44:01.000 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>like people didn't really dive enough into real like realize

0:44:05.200 --> 0:44:07.240
<v Speaker 1>like what records you could bring to the test, Sleeper

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 1>records that people don't even know. I was involved with

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>John by Rick Ross and Lil Wayne. I'm involved in

0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 1>that record. Shot to al a producer Orlando like bro

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:19.800
<v Speaker 1>like he can what is it twenty records? I have

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:22.680
<v Speaker 1>three records as me at our points, he don't have

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:24.800
<v Speaker 1>any of those I have three records as me that

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:27.840
<v Speaker 1>our points. You just said the business like people like,

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:29.800
<v Speaker 1>come on, I still have three records as me, Like

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 1>that's easy. I just think I don't think people were

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:35.400
<v Speaker 1>giving you enough respect when you brought that up. You

0:44:35.560 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>know what it was. I think that, you know, me

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and him have a personal relationship and we've worked together

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:43.440
<v Speaker 1>and collaborated before, so I think that it probably may

0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>have rubbed him the wrong way just for somebody, like

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:48.080
<v Speaker 1>because he's been DJ Muster the whole time and I

0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.239
<v Speaker 1>was I was burg a nigga that was just in

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the studio bringing him records, writing records. We have plaques together,

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:57.759
<v Speaker 1>like I put Nicki Minaj on his single, like I've

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:00.880
<v Speaker 1>done records with him, but we had a fun It's

0:45:00.880 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 1>because it was some bad business that was done behind

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.360
<v Speaker 1>a record and he just has had it which record record,

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:10.359
<v Speaker 1>the Whatever you Need Record meets Meek featuring Chris Brown

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and Ti dollar Sign, And I came and brought to

0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 1>him that record first, like it was my record. I

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:19.279
<v Speaker 1>had to hook done Aaron Ray. Shout out to Aaron Ray. Yeah,

0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 1>he me and him wrote the hook on that record.

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:23.719
<v Speaker 1>The whole young lad who's a producer that works for

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:26.720
<v Speaker 1>me right now. We had the same beat, same samples,

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:29.719
<v Speaker 1>same everything or whatever. I gave Mustard the record and

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 1>me and Mustard to stopped working at the time. He

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:33.320
<v Speaker 1>went and sold the record and did it. You know

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. I remember, like fast forward the time.

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting at the ASCAP Awards or whatever, and I'm

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:40.359
<v Speaker 1>sitting next to Meek and all them, and I won

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 1>my award for dangerous or whatever I think, and then

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 1>like they called me back up there for whatever you Need,

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:49.280
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, what the fuck, this is my song whatever.

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:51.840
<v Speaker 1>So I ended up hitting up the powers that be

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:53.799
<v Speaker 1>and shout out to rock Nation. We ended up getting

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the squared away. So he just don't fuck with me.

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:57.279
<v Speaker 1>He just got to distaste for me anyway, so he

0:45:57.320 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 1>wanted to go and do that. But it's kind of

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 1>like yo, like fam like we all multi millionaires. So

0:46:01.840 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 1>that record Whatever you Need was a record you brought

0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:06.319
<v Speaker 1>to him. It's my record. It's not even you brought

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>to you. It was your record. And then he sold

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:11.319
<v Speaker 1>it without giving you any of the credit of one

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:15.400
<v Speaker 1>thousand percent Me and Aaron Ray. That's crazy. That seems

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 1>like a wild thing. To do in twenty twenty, twenty nineteen.

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 1>What was that? That was twenty eighteen? Yeah, eighteen. Yeah,

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:23.279
<v Speaker 1>it seems like a wild thing to do. I feel

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 1>like there's so much transparency. Like now it's like, dude,

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I have the session. Bro, Like this shit is dated

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and I got love for Musting Man, I ain't gonna yeah,

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Mustards are collaborated, We've done great work together. Whatever. He

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:34.359
<v Speaker 1>a cool guy. I don't got no bee for him

0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But my thing was just funny to me

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>because it's like, oh, like you're really bothered by this,

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:42.720
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like, who am I supposed

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:44.719
<v Speaker 1>to say I'm gonna do a versus with? Like it's

0:46:44.800 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 1>only a few different people. Like what I'm gonna say

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 1>that make rap music and R and B music at

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 1>a certain level that I make it. So I was thinking,

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:55.839
<v Speaker 1>what Mustard London on the track? Who can I really

0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:57.880
<v Speaker 1>say that's in a tier to actually be in a

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:01.480
<v Speaker 1>versus that does both of those. That's my type of

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:03.839
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Rain, Yeah, that makes sense.

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:06.799
<v Speaker 1>So I mean he took it personally, but I know him,

0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:08.879
<v Speaker 1>so I know why he took it personally and it's

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.319
<v Speaker 1>just funny to me, like it tickled me a little bit.

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:14.399
<v Speaker 1>I think the Versus thing, man, I really think it's

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 1>they got to figure something out because they've lost some

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 1>steam because I totally did not even realize the ugk

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:21.480
<v Speaker 1>ape on m j G shit was happening. Yeah, by

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:24.279
<v Speaker 1>the time I realized that happened and it already happened. Yeah,

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:26.080
<v Speaker 1>they got to reinvent it, you know, they got to

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 1>reinvent it. I feel they got to take it back

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 1>to the gram man, or they might have just got

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 1>the bag, you know, like, hey, we had a two

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 1>year run. Every business meant forever, and there's only so

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:39.759
<v Speaker 1>many verses you can do. Last time I checked, the

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:42.759
<v Speaker 1>whole game plan is to start a business, crank it up,

0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:46.359
<v Speaker 1>excel it. Yes, I think the only thing they gotta

0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:49.239
<v Speaker 1>they gotta try to do Usher versus Chris Brown, or

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:51.560
<v Speaker 1>they got to get like Kanye, right, Drake Usher verse

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Chris Brown. But they just did Kanye and Drake said,

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:56.959
<v Speaker 1>We're not doing a versus sell out of the whole stadium. Yeah,

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 1>that's not happening. Drake walked into it versus not knowing that.

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.920
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of how it felt on TV I was

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:04.879
<v Speaker 1>on vacation watching that shit, and I was like, oh,

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 1>but you got it. So I wasn't in my you

0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like, I wasn't in a way

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:11.879
<v Speaker 1>and I wasn't meaning no disrespect with that whole versus

0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 1>shit or whatever. But you gotta really, this is a

0:48:14.239 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 1>commentary what's going on in our culture right now. I

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:18.799
<v Speaker 1>work every day and I'm busting my ass for this shit.

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of like dall like for the last

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.879
<v Speaker 1>six years, like there's not been a summer off, there's

0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:26.720
<v Speaker 1>not been a not plaque had like for six years straight.

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:29.640
<v Speaker 1>One hundred million records. Man, it's a big deal. Yeah

0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:32.840
<v Speaker 1>for sure. So are you getting back to getting on

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:36.279
<v Speaker 1>the mic? No? Okay, so you got new music coming though?

0:48:36.440 --> 0:48:38.520
<v Speaker 1>New single on the Way Down Bad is my new

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 1>single off my producer album Still. That's about the drop

0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:43.799
<v Speaker 1>shot to the ladies with the first single, thought Box

0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 1>and the homies that jumped on it, and then this

0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:48.680
<v Speaker 1>new single. Like how we was talking about me working

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 1>with songwriters that might empower to be artists or whatever,

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:54.960
<v Speaker 1>that's just so fired of me. I got Ivory Scott,

0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:58.040
<v Speaker 1>who I brought into the session. I was able to

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:01.319
<v Speaker 1>help him do a couple of things that was big

0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 1>with Empire. One we did Baddest together and then we

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:07.800
<v Speaker 1>did he did Peru and fire Boy, you know what

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So that's another way you could be an

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 1>a n R two. Technically, I put Ivory in a

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 1>room to go do Peru for that record. So from

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:18.920
<v Speaker 1>there he's on the record, Jeremiah and Fabulous on the record.

0:49:18.960 --> 0:49:22.080
<v Speaker 1>He's my normal collaborators. But man, I ain't gonna lie like.

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 1>This is one of the one summer smash video shots. Beautiful,

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:29.600
<v Speaker 1>The women were beautiful, had like thirty girls with me. Man,

0:49:29.640 --> 0:49:33.680
<v Speaker 1>it was just good vibes. Thirty Yeah, you gonna see it.

0:49:34.239 --> 0:49:37.799
<v Speaker 1>It's a nice it's a nice mix. Nice. Not quite

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:44.160
<v Speaker 1>the eight though. Yeah for the seven Nah, Nah, I

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:46.799
<v Speaker 1>ain't know that no more. That's over them days over. Yeah.

0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:49.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean I feel like we got a shout out

0:49:49.800 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 1>to my wife. You know, I got all that crazy

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:54.480
<v Speaker 1>shit out of exactly man. Yeah, super executive time. It's

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 1>executive time. Man. Do you feel like do you do

0:49:56.640 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 1>you feel like nowadays? Man? Like because you're in a

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 1>position that I think people look to you as like

0:50:04.920 --> 0:50:08.120
<v Speaker 1>a leader, as like somebody who could change an artist

0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:12.879
<v Speaker 1>or songwriters, like do you feel that weight on your shoulders? Nah,

0:50:13.320 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 1>it's happening organically, like man, like I've seen an interview

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:18.759
<v Speaker 1>with Dame Dash or whatever, and like I used to

0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 1>like I literally used to be saying this shit on

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:23.320
<v Speaker 1>my gram, Like, Yo, the name of my company is

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:26.840
<v Speaker 1>not trying records or not trying LLC because like literally,

0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 1>like me and my homies and my team, we go

0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:32.320
<v Speaker 1>to the studio and it's not like we're trying to

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:34.319
<v Speaker 1>make a song, you know what I'm saying, Or let's

0:50:34.320 --> 0:50:36.719
<v Speaker 1>make a song for Beyonce today, or let's make this,

0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:39.319
<v Speaker 1>or let's make a song with Taylor's. We just going there,

0:50:40.480 --> 0:50:43.520
<v Speaker 1>have some drinks, smoke a little bit, and just let

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 1>you have activity flow. And like that just turned into

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:48.719
<v Speaker 1>ten songs a night, ten songs a night. You do

0:50:48.840 --> 0:50:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that for years straight and then you just able to

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:54.960
<v Speaker 1>load everybody up. So I don't know, like I'm just

0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:56.839
<v Speaker 1>what was we talking about again? What was we saying?

0:50:57.320 --> 0:50:59.239
<v Speaker 1>What was the question again? I'm just saying, do you

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:00.799
<v Speaker 1>feel like the weight on your shoulders that like you're

0:51:00.880 --> 0:51:03.839
<v Speaker 1>kind of happening organically like all the stuff that I'm

0:51:03.880 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 1>doing or whatever, like even with me, like I think

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I was, well, I don't even think I know that.

0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 1>I kind of like I set out maybe four years ago,

0:51:13.680 --> 0:51:16.640
<v Speaker 1>five years ago, six five, six years ago, and I'm like, yo,

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna flip every record that I love from my

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:21.359
<v Speaker 1>childhood growing up, and I'm gonna make this sound. I'm

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be the puff Daddy of this generation. I'm gonna

0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 1>bring all these sounds back. And I really did it.

0:51:26.400 --> 0:51:28.879
<v Speaker 1>And then now you see, like ever, but it's turned

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:30.880
<v Speaker 1>into a thing now, you know what I'm saying. So

0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:33.319
<v Speaker 1>I just I was like, damn, well, I just need

0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:35.759
<v Speaker 1>to follow my first instinct. So whatever feels good and

0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:39.640
<v Speaker 1>whatever my my initial like reaction is, I just go

0:51:39.800 --> 0:51:42.239
<v Speaker 1>with it for real. That's stuff, man. Well listen, when's

0:51:42.239 --> 0:51:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the single drop? Oh? The single seventeenth this month? June?

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Next Friday, Yeah, next Friday. Fin the seth of Something

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 1>on Fire. When's the album coming out? The album's coming

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:52.600
<v Speaker 1>out in September. It was supposed to come out when

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:54.919
<v Speaker 1>I sold one hundred million records, but thank you God,

0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 1>that happened a little bit faster and I thought it

0:51:56.600 --> 0:52:00.839
<v Speaker 1>was gonna happen, so like shite, it comes out in September. Man,

0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:04.480
<v Speaker 1>it features everybody, the whole game, and salute to everybody

0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:06.840
<v Speaker 1>that they ever made a produced album. Salute to cal It.

0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I just seen an interview with south Side,

0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Salute to him doing a produced album. Shooting man. Anybody

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 1>to try to ship man, This ship is a nightmare.

0:52:14.440 --> 0:52:18.000
<v Speaker 1>It is so many different moving parts, different labels, different

0:52:18.080 --> 0:52:21.240
<v Speaker 1>legal teams, management, because Yo, you might know the artists

0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:22.840
<v Speaker 1>and the artist is like, yeah, of course I got you,

0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:25.120
<v Speaker 1>But then you got to talk to their fucking people,

0:52:25.200 --> 0:52:27.800
<v Speaker 1>and then that's when it's just really political. You know

0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:29.799
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. It's just getting everybody on the same

0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:31.760
<v Speaker 1>page and a lot of moving parts. So I salute

0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:34.319
<v Speaker 1>anybody that does this type of album. It's a great

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:36.400
<v Speaker 1>body of work. We already got one gold single with

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<v Speaker 1>thought Box. I'm about to put out this next single,

0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:41.279
<v Speaker 1>get another play. Wait, thought Box isn't gonna been the album,

0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:43.200
<v Speaker 1>is it? Yeah? I took it off. I took took

0:52:43.239 --> 0:52:45.880
<v Speaker 1>the records from Atlantic. Oh Ship, Yeah, shout out to Atlantic.

0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Did you do like a remix with like fucking ten chicks? Yeah?

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:52.560
<v Speaker 1>I did a remix with dream Doll, Mulatto, Chinese Kitty,

0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Dreazy and Young Young in May and the ship went

0:52:56.400 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 1>super do remember man, it was bigger than a record,

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:01.920
<v Speaker 1>my initial record. But the guys was a Buggie Meeque,

0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:06.359
<v Speaker 1>two Chains, the Mirror, and Tiger. I had them all

0:53:06.440 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 1>on the record, all five on Damn. Yeah, it didn't

0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:11.880
<v Speaker 1>work out. I think it was because the title was

0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:14.080
<v Speaker 1>called thought Box and you got five guys on the record.

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. That might move. But when

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<v Speaker 1>I was literally in Vegas just turned up on a

0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:22.000
<v Speaker 1>fucking We were working this back when the Poems had

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:23.759
<v Speaker 1>the studio on the Palms and we were just did

0:53:23.760 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 1>they get rid of that? Yeah? Yeah, that was a

0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:28.040
<v Speaker 1>great studio. That shit was amazing. We was in there working,

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:30.360
<v Speaker 1>just turned up and I'm like, man, Yo, the singles

0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:32.680
<v Speaker 1>not moving like I wanted to move. Fucking I'm gonna

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:34.239
<v Speaker 1>go put all girls on the song. But I'm not

0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:37.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna go reach for like Nikki or Cardi or the

0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 1>top tier usual suspects. I'm gonna come get all the

0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:42.560
<v Speaker 1>up and coming any girl that got over a million

0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Instagram followers that I like and I fucked with their music.

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go put them on a song, and I

0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:49.840
<v Speaker 1>felt like that way when they all press go at

0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:52.360
<v Speaker 1>the same time, it could turn into pandemonium and just

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:54.920
<v Speaker 1>it became a thing, and that's what happened there. It

0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:57.680
<v Speaker 1>is Man album coming out in September. Yes, single out

0:53:57.760 --> 0:54:00.799
<v Speaker 1>next Friday. Appreciate your time, bro for pulling up Man

0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:01.480
<v Speaker 1>my guy