1 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Welcome back to the Betting Pros Podcast, brought 2 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: to you by bet MGM. I'm your host, Dan Harris. 3 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter at Dan Harris eighty. It is 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: time to talk about our best bets if we can, 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: given everything that's going on in week fifteen here in 6 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: the NFL season. Great guest today to do that with 7 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: me it is Read Wallach, senior editor over at bets Sided. 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: Find him on Twitter at his name at read Wallak. 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: By the way, did I pronounce her last? I didn't 10 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: even ask? Is that how you pronounce her? 11 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? All natural? That was great? 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, beautiful? No, no prap? What's that's w A L 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: l A h? Just you know on Twitter? 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: Read Thank you for joining me today in what I 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: admit is probably the most difficult like Thursday show to 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: talk about our weekend best bets because the COVID outbreak. 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: But I mean that's why I brought you on. I 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: want the best, you know. 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, this is this is when we thrive. 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 4: Adversity guy is getting ruled out left and right, spreads 21 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 4: up in arms from the openers. This is when you know, 22 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 4: the going gets tough, the tough get going. 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: This is gonna be I think we can be honest 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: about it. Okay, we're gonna recommend some bets, but obviously 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: COVID maytime. One of the bets that I'm going to 26 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: recommend already has been moving because of COVID news. They 27 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: can just before we start a quick so everybody listening, 28 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: you don't have to run and bet these right now. 29 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 3: Take your time, like see how things develop. 30 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: But as of right now, this is where we're going 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: to land on some stuff, and we'll do our best 32 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: to give some caveats. 33 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: All right, we're going to get into it. 34 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: This again is our three best bets of the weekend, spread, money, line, total, 35 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: whatever we want to do, and a couple of housekeeping 36 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: items before we do. 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He missed on the Jets getting 53 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: five and a half from the Saints and the Bengals 54 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: getting one from the forty nine ers. 55 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 3: I went two and one. 56 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: As everybody knows, I took the other side of that game. 57 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: Don't really know if that turn was the actual right side, 58 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,839 Speaker 1: but it was a winner in that one. Another game 59 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: that was probably the wrong side but was also a 60 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: winner for me was the Ravens getting two and a 61 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 1: half in that game. I did miss on the Falcons 62 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: and the Panthers under forty two and a half, So 63 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm now twenty one and twenty one on the year. 64 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: Let's do better. We'll start today. Read you are our 65 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: guest to get the first pick. 66 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 3: What do you got? 67 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'm going to go with the Patriots plus 68 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 4: two and a half against the Colts. I think that's 69 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: pretty much the market number as of this record, and 70 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: the three picks I made are as of now not 71 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: COVID effected, so hopefully that holds up. 72 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: But this one in particular really caught my eye. 73 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: These are two teams coming off of a buy in 74 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: Indianapolis and New England, and this was a pick them 75 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 4: in the look ahead market. So I find it fascinating 76 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 4: that this line has shifted two and a half points 77 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: towards the Colts. 78 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: This was a spot I was looking at back Indianapolis. 79 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 4: Actually, I think New England's a little overvalued in the market, 80 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 4: but now it feels like everyone feels that way because 81 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 4: now the line's gotten the other way. 82 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 2: So again, I make this a pick. So I'm gonna 83 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: play New England. 84 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: And really, you know Colts linebacker saying we want Mac 85 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: Jones to beat us after you know he only threw 86 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 4: three attempts against Buffalo, Well that might actually be a 87 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: problem because the Colts do have a good run defense. 88 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: But they're actually sixteenth in EPA per pass. 89 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 4: So I think mac Jones is going to have some 90 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 4: success through the air on the fast Track at Lucas 91 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: Oil Stadium, and listen, mac Jones. He doesn't make mistakes. 92 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: He's gonna go through the reads, He's going to go 93 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 4: through the progressions, make the easy pass, Carson Wentz. You 94 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: know that he's gonna make some turnover, He's going to 95 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: make some crazy passes. He's gonna give New England a 96 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 4: So I like New England as an underdog, and also 97 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 4: I think this is an amazing teaser. Spot got that 98 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 4: over a touchdown at eight and a half, So yeah, 99 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 4: give me New England. 100 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: I think that they're the better team and this should 101 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: be a pick them. 102 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 103 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: I love it as a teaser for sure. With two 104 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: and a half, you get it to eight and a half. 105 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: I do love that. I have a lot of trouble 106 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: with this game. 107 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: Read. 108 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: First of all, I've had a lot of trouble with 109 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: the paths the whole year, right because I've sort of 110 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: been on the whole Pats are overrated, then, like this 111 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: is just what it is. 112 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 3: They're not. 113 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: You know, if you have to make Macdones beat you. 114 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: I think Macdones is a fine rookie quarterback, but I 115 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: don't trust him to be able to carry the load 116 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 1: necessarily if you can't run the ball. But it is 117 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: interesting to me that this line is two and a half, Like, 118 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: you're right, this struck me as a pick them game, 119 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: so there must be money coming in though right on 120 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 1: the cults, I assume that sharp betters are backing the Colts, 121 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: which I don't fully understand. Like if you're getting to 122 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: do you think this gets to three? By the way 123 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: it's been sitting out there two. 124 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 3: And a half. 125 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 4: I feel like this is if this goes to three, 126 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: everyone starts immediately betting New England, and then it goes 127 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: back to two and a half. I feel like this 128 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: closes two and a half. Maybe it comes down a 129 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 4: little bit again. I just what happened over the bye 130 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 4: week that is changing this market to and half once. 131 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 4: I agree New England is overvalued in the macro of 132 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 4: the NFL, but in this particular spot, give me Bill Belichick. 133 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: As an underdog. 134 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 4: You know, I think mac Jones is able to keep 135 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 4: this game close enough where New England's a chance to 136 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 4: win at the end. 137 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, I mean, Buffalo had a 138 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: perfectly fine run defense and New England they knew they 139 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: were going to run. They ran the same play and 140 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: they just ran down their throats. So as good as 141 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: the Cults are, I mean, we saw again Leonard Fournette 142 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: have no trouble running the ball in the starly against 143 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: them as well. So yeah, man, it is weird, right 144 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: because both teams are off a bye, so you would 145 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: think what has changed suddenly to make this spread sort 146 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: of start to move and again now it's been hanging 147 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: at it two and a half for a little bit, 148 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: but you're right. Early on it was, you know, one 149 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: point or something like that. 150 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: It was very interesting. 151 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: I look, if I have to go away, I'm certainly 152 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: taking the Pats with the points for sure. If I 153 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: have to go away, I'm probably staying away from it 154 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: because man, I don't I just I don't know. I 155 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: don't have a good read on the Patriots team yet 156 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: or though or the Colts. By the way, the Colts 157 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: sometimes come out there and you're like, oh, you're the 158 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: best team in the NFL. I get it now, But 159 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: they also come out there and Carson Wentz is about 160 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: to throw a ball left handed, you know, right to 161 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: the linebacker and have it run back for a pick Sixugh, 162 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: the worst, the worst. So I'm I leaned towards their way, 163 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: but I agree with you. It's one of my favorite 164 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: teaser pieces to get the Pats definitely up to eight 165 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: and a half. 166 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: So all right, I like it there. I'm gonna be honest. 167 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't love a lot of games this weekend like 168 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: I did, Like I liked the Eagles, which were laying 169 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: four and a half against Washington before it moved to 170 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: seven because of all the COVID news, I'm sure, and 171 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: all the injuries stuff like that. So I will be 172 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: honest that a lot of my picks are a little lukewarm, 173 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: but we make picks. We're fine. I'm going to go 174 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: with the Packers laying five and a half to the Ravens. 175 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: It was four and a half when I looked at 176 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: it when it opened. It's a dead number. It's a 177 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: weird sort of number. But I think the bottom line 178 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: is I don't love what I hear out of the 179 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: Ravens camp about Lamar. I really don't. And even earlier 180 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: today it just said he's going to be like they're 181 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: going to take it right up until game time to 182 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: know whether or not he's going to go, So even 183 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: if he goes, he's going to be limited, Like this. 184 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: Is just what we're going to see. 185 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: And I think the fact that they signed Josh Johnson 186 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: sort of suggests, Okay, we are really concerned whether or 187 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: not he's going to be able to go. But if 188 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: he does go, if he doesn't go, as much as 189 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: this game is important to him, every game is important 190 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: to them, Like they're probably going to win this division 191 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: as much as every team is right there, and the 192 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: same sort of thing. I think in the end, they'll 193 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: probably be able to pull it out. You attack the 194 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: Packers for the most part on the ground, and I 195 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: think a big part of their ground game is the 196 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: fact that Lamar Jackson is so mobile. So if he 197 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: does play and his mobility is compromised, as I would expect, 198 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: that is going to affect it. And if not, like 199 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: you know, kudos to Huntley, but not sort of the same. 200 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: And really I just don't know how they expect to 201 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: stop the Packers. I know Aaron Rodgers had a quote 202 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: setback with the toe and everything like that, but what 203 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: you have is last week, I like the Ravens because 204 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, all their injuries to the secondary, 205 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: which is totally decimated by injuries, that's not as big 206 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: a deal against team like the Browns, who doesn't really 207 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: have that prototypical number one or number two receiver, number 208 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: three receiver, that's not how they. 209 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: Run their offense. 210 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: But here you've got DeVante Adams and you've got the 211 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: number two pass offense in terms of DVOA against the 212 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: twenty sixth defensive DVOA against the pass team in the Ravens. 213 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: So with their injuries with Lamar Jackson, this just strikes 214 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: me as a game here that the Packers, even in Baltimore, 215 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: are gonna roll. It's uncomfortable, right because it's on the road. 216 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: It's five and a half. That's just a dead number. 217 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: If Lamar Jackson was at full health, I would feel 218 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,559 Speaker 1: less comfortable with it. But he's gonna if he plays, 219 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: is gonna be limited, not gonna be able to run 220 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: as much. The passing game is not really working. And 221 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: if it's Huntley, like, good job coming back against the 222 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: Browns thankfully and covering that spread for me, But I 223 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: have no faith that he's gonna be able to really 224 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: attack this offense. So for now I like him at 225 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: five and a half. But I'm interested to hear your 226 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: thoughts on that. 227 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 4: I don't hate to play at all, and what you 228 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 4: mentioned about the Raven's decimated secondary that against Aaron Rodgers, 229 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, whatever tow is messed up, I mean, 230 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 4: he's gonna be able to get his you know, I 231 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 4: think that this number I think is sitting there. It's 232 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 4: kind of like a middle number where it's if Lamar plays, 233 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 4: is gonna tick down to maybe four. Ifdley plays, maybe 234 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 4: this goes up to seven, because like you said, five 235 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 4: and a half is kind of that dead zone where 236 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 4: it's an insignificant number. 237 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: So I don't hate the play. 238 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 4: I'm kind of feeling if Huntley plays, what about the 239 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 4: over Yeah yeah, maybe you got like I mean we 240 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 4: saw Miles Garrett that scoop and score. You know, maybe 241 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 4: Huntley makes a mistake, whereas if it's Lamar, maybe even 242 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 4: almost lower scoring, they go even closer to the best 243 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: less mistakes. So that's kind of how I'm looking to 244 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 4: attack it. If Huntley's ended up, if he ends up playing, 245 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: I'm gonna look probably towards the over because I think 246 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 4: you're right. 247 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: The Packers are gonna get whatever they want on offense. 248 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's forty three and a half, that's not you know, 249 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: you don't need any sort of crew that's low. 250 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 3: I mean, there are a lot of low totals. 251 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: This week, by the way, So I'm totally good with 252 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: that play. And yeah, I agree with you. I mean, man, 253 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: I'd almost rather Lamar play in this game because only 254 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: because I right, because I think that realistically, if he plays, 255 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: and you know, I love Lamar Jackson, but first of all, 256 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: he has not played well in several weeks, whether it 257 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: was the illness that he's been down, whatever that is 258 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: that he was on the injury report in the almost 259 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: three separate weeks, but his ankles just you know, it's 260 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: not gonna be one hundred percent. There's no way which 261 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: will limit them, and it's almost better than having Huntley's 262 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: additional mobility. 263 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 3: But either way, at five and a half, that's the point. 264 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: If Lamar plays and the spread goes to I'm still 265 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: fine laying five and a half even assuming that Lamar 266 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: suits up, given that he there's no way he's going 267 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: to be one hundred percent For a guy who relies 268 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: on his legs so much. 269 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 3: All right, number two, pick? What do you got? 270 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna go with the Steelers. I think this 271 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 4: number is ticking down. I had plus two that I 272 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 4: wrote down, but anything above pick, I'm on Pittsburgh in 273 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 4: this game. 274 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: This is a classic Mike Tomlin spine. 275 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 4: It's almost like we're beating a dead horse because you know, 276 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: the Steers keep being plays as underdogs. But Tomlin, he's 277 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 4: covering sixty six percent of his games as a dog 278 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 4: as a Steelers head coach. Make that over eighty percent 279 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 4: as a home underdog. And this Tennessee team, it's a 280 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: team I like to back as Underdog's not his favorite. 281 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: So this is kind of a spot where I like 282 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 4: to fade Mike Rabel. He is fourteen nineteen to one 283 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 4: as a favorite since taking over in Tennessee. So there 284 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 4: are some trends going in the Steelers favor. And also 285 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 4: just this is more of an eye test thing. I've 286 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 4: been fading the Steelers. I didn't believe in them earlier 287 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 4: in the year. It almost seems like Ben Roethlisberger's having 288 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 4: like this is the last stand. You know, he's trying 289 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: to will the team home Gunslinger mentality really just he 290 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: knows this as his last year. He's leaving it all 291 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: out there. So I kind of like that motivation for 292 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 4: the Steelers. They had some extra time to prep and 293 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: this Tennessee offense without Derrick Henry, who have they beaten 294 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 4: of late? They lost to the Texans, they got blown 295 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 4: out by the Patriots. They get to buy and beat 296 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 4: a dead Jaguars team, So I'm not. 297 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: Impressed with the Titans. 298 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 4: They're twenty third in EPA per play since Derrick Henry 299 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 4: went down. So again, this is not a team I'm 300 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 4: looking to back as a favorite on the road against 301 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 4: the Steelers, team that is facing their season right here. 302 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 4: If they lose this game, that's probably it for them 303 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 4: in the playoff race. So again, Roethlisberger's last stand, Tomlin 304 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 4: as a dog, all these things are putting me towards 305 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 4: the Steelers. Again, this is still in that one and 306 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: a half two range, great teaser spot, but I like 307 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: the Steelers at anything above a pick. I think that 308 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 4: they win this game. 309 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: So our consensus line at Betting Bros. Is one, but 310 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: there are twos out there still at bet MGM, for example, 311 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: there's two I'll give it to you two, because we've 312 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: got some twos out there as well. Yeah, you're welcome, 313 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: take the money a lot. It doesn't matter, whatever, it 314 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,719 Speaker 1: does matter. Yeah, So I think, first of all, I 315 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: mean I'm full on the I back Mike Tomlin in 316 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: the spot of you're an underdog, you know, get your 317 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: backs against the wall. When he's a favorite, run run 318 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: as far away as you possibly can, because that's what 319 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: does It's interesting here because I do think that this 320 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: is a game that does favor the Steelers in a 321 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: couple of ways. Number One, it's obviously like their defense 322 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: has just been getting you know, whether it's been injury 323 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: or not, like they've been getting torched. The Titans cannot 324 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: do that at this point, right, That is not how 325 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: they are winning games at this point. They're playing very conservatively. 326 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: But it's different when you're running back that you have 327 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: is you know, Deonta Foreman instead of Derrick Henry. They're 328 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: obviously down a j Brown Leo Jones just came back, 329 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: but they were not pushing the ball down field. They 330 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: have no interest in sort of having an explosive style 331 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: game which can exploit. 332 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: Whatever the Steelers deficiencies are on offense. 333 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: And on defense, and hopefully they get a little healthier 334 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: by the way, because they've obviously, you know, hopefully Watt's 335 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: able to play Hayden and you're right about like whether 336 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: it is just like hey man, Ben's out after this year. 337 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: Let's just go, you know, to the wall and do 338 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 3: what we can. 339 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: They are really just basically saying, like, you know what, 340 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: our offense seems to work better a little bit when 341 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: we go no huddle, when we hurry it up, when 342 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: we move it and just let Ben sort of find 343 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: what it is, and it does like they are able 344 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: to put up points here. And the Titans defense is good, 345 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: but they have been sort of punching above their weight 346 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: class a little bit in that it's been fluky. Like 347 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: we mentioned when they beat the Rams, right, it was like, 348 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: oh wow, you know they went and be the Red. 349 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 3: Like that was very fluky. 350 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: They had to pick six right, their defense sort of play. 351 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: That's how they've been getting away with this. When you 352 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: just look at how is our offense playing, how's their 353 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: defense playing, it's not that impressive of late, right, So yeah, 354 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't hate it, like I have been on the 355 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: wrong side like the Steelers against the Bengals in that 356 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: game where they went in there and I was like, 357 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: this is Mike toWin spot and they're gonna be pissed 358 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: off every getting and they've just got the doors. 359 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 3: Blown off them. I've been gun chat a little bit 360 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: with them. Go ahead. 361 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 4: Sorry, No, the Titans seem like a team. Again, I 362 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 4: don't like backing them as favorites. I like back in 363 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 4: those underdogs because they punch up and down to their 364 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 4: weight class. And again, I'm not saying the Steelers are 365 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 4: a good team. I don't think that they're doing anything 366 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 4: come playoff time or if they even make the playoffs, 367 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: but they can whire. The Titans should be laying points here, 368 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 4: Like what have the Titans done? They had three point 369 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 4: eight yards per play against the Jags. I get that 370 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 4: game was over the second started, but it's not like 371 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 4: the Titans have been some world beating nine to fourteen. 372 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 4: This is a different team than what started the year. 373 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 4: So I'm not rushing to back this offense right now, 374 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 4: going on the road to a hostile Hinz Field in 375 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 4: a must win situation. 376 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: This is a clear spots back with Steelers. 377 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: I don't disagree with what you're saying. 378 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna be on it because 379 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm terrified, but I agree especially and again another thing 380 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: where they're getting too not a. 381 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 3: Bad teaser piece as well, if you can tease them 382 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 3: up past that touchdown. All right. 383 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: So originally in the week I was gonna, I mean, 384 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: it's all gross right now, I was gonna go with 385 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: the Texans against the Jaguars because I feel like the 386 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: quote sharp side and when you look at the teams 387 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: like the Jaguars, I understood why they were at the 388 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: time three point favorites. But I was not going to 389 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: back an Urban Meyer team. And I think that he 390 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: sort of is the model buster in terms of terrible 391 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: teams that fire their coach, like especially this, like you 392 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: could definitely see a rally around the flag type of 393 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: effort from the Jaguars. So I went with an equally 394 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: ugly sort of dog that I've gone with, and it's 395 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: the Jets. And now when I took the Jets, and 396 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: when I logged it again in our betting pros app 397 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: they were getting ten. Right after that, right when I 398 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: decided I was gonna do it, we got the Jaalen 399 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: Waddell news that he is on the reserve COVID list 400 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: now ready. I don't know if you've seen anything. I 401 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: didn't see that he actually tested positive. I don't know 402 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: if he was just a close contact. But either way, 403 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: if you're put on the list on a Thursday, I 404 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: it does not sound like you're gonna be able to play. 405 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: Like. 406 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: He hasn't been ruled out as far as I right, 407 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: I didn't see he was ruled out, but. 408 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 4: You have to think probably out for this weekend. And listen, 409 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 4: he's a huge part of their offense. 410 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: He oh my god, he's uh to a his binky. 411 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 2: You know, he is his go to receiver. Not downfield. 412 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: He average is like four yards of catch, but he's 413 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 4: his go to guys. This really makes it a difficult 414 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: passing attack for this Dolphins team. I wonder how they're 415 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 4: going to adjust. Especially they're coming off of buy so 416 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: they were prepping for this game. They're trying to get 417 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 4: the playoff race. So yeah, no, continue with your handicap. 418 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean, so no, it's fine. So I headed at ten. 419 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: It's now the consensus line is nine and a half. 420 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stick with it because it doesn't really matter. Also, 421 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: I think there are a couple things. They've obviously got 422 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: COVID issues on that team. Every running back right now 423 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: it tested positive for COVID. They may be off. I'm 424 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: actually expecting Miles Gaskin to come off, maybe Savan Akhmed, 425 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, who knows. They maybe they'll get Malcolm brown back, 426 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: who knows. But they've got a COVID ish on that team, which, 427 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: by the way, suggests this is a game which I 428 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: might be fine to take now because I do think 429 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: look of Wattle tested positive, If DeVante Parker test positive, 430 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: if Mike a SICKI test, like, you've got issues there 431 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: going on with that team. And either way, I mean, look, 432 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: a receiver being out generally, it's not something that's going 433 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: to move this spread very much, right, Like that's the thing. 434 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: It's half a point, and I assume that's why. But regardless, 435 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: Wattle certainly is the biggest part of that offense where 436 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: it is. And the Dolphins, man, I don't know, man, 437 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm interested your thoughts on them generally because when I 438 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: look at them, I knew they were better than this 439 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: team to start out one and so like they weren't 440 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: one of the worst teams in the NFL, and they're 441 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: rolling right now. But other than that, Ravens Win, Panthers, Texans, Jets, Giants. 442 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: It's not like they're world beaters or anything like that. 443 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: The Jets are terrible, and they're terrible this year against 444 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: the spread, right, they're three and ten, like so, the 445 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: Jets are not a team that you want to back. 446 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: And I made fun of Pat last week, who took 447 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: them against the Saints. I was like, there's no way 448 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm taking a bet. But regardless, and they've gotten Elijah 449 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: More but they are going to get Michael Carter back, 450 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: which I do think is you know, something that's at 451 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: least gonna make a difference because he's incredibly talented. He's 452 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: a big part of their offense going in. We don't 453 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: know again, what this Dolphins offense gonna look like. Who's 454 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: gonna be playing running back, if Wild's out, if they 455 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: have more COVID cases. And when it was eight and 456 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: a half, I leaned the Jets when I saw that, 457 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: because again, these two teams have played before. The Dolphins 458 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: won by seven points. They do not strike me as 459 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: a team who should be double digit favorites over anyone 460 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Now, again, this is nine and a half. 461 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: So whatever, But basically, this just doesn't seem like that 462 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: the Jets are a terrible football team, but they don't 463 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: like they don't mail it in right like Sala has 464 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: them playing still hard, they just don't have the personnel 465 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: and they randomly put up like spirited efforts here to 466 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: put up a game. I think this is the type 467 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: of game that even if the Dolphins sort of jump 468 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: out to a lead and get there, they don't have 469 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: the type of offense I think that's gonna be able 470 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: to put away apps in the defensive score. 471 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: I could see the Jets having a backdoor cover here. 472 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: So it's a second divisional game, right Like those games 473 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: are always just a little tighter than you think they 474 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: should be in this one. So it's disgusting, and I 475 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: hate backing the Jets, and I'm a Jets fan as 476 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: most people listen, No unfortunately, I was raised in Queens, 477 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: no choice. 478 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 3: But I don't. I'm not like a backer of them. 479 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 3: I never back them, but. 480 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,239 Speaker 1: This week, with it being ugly and especially at ten, 481 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: if it gets back to ten, great, but even in 482 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: nine and a half, given the COVID issues that the 483 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: Dolphins are dealing with, read I'm inclined to agree with them. 484 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 3: How do you see this Dolphins team? Generally? Like, is 485 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: this for real? 486 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: They're six and seven, They're on the precipice of the 487 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: playoff race, that got a schedule they can exploit. 488 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 4: Now I agree with you on hundred. I think the 489 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 4: Dolphins are incredibly overrated. I faded them unfortunately with my 490 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 4: Giants two weeks ago before the buye they were not 491 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 4: able to cover. Just this isn't a Dolphins team that 492 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 4: is beating Again, obviously we agree. I think we all 493 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 4: know the Jets are not a talented team. But again, 494 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 4: are the Dolphins a team you're rushing to back laying 495 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: ten points? 496 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: I know? And again, the Jets aren't the type of 497 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 2: team that take. 498 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 4: Me as a quick factor team such as I know 499 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 4: urban Meyer was just fired, but urban Meyer Jags. 500 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 2: That's like a quick team as a team that's gonna 501 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: come out and just lay an egg. 502 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 4: The Jets have a first year head coach is starting 503 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 4: to build a program. They have a rookie quarterback that's 504 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 4: going to at least give an honest effort. So this 505 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: isn't a Dolphins team that's gonna typically pull away. They 506 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 4: haven't really beat up on lesser competition. I think that 507 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 4: the spread is too high. I think that the Jets, 508 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: like you said, division second time around, I think that 509 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 4: the Jets get up of this game. And also it's 510 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 4: in Miami. Dolphins don't have much of a home field. 511 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 4: This is not a maybe Miami nightlife beats the Jets. 512 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 4: But it's not like the Jets are going into a 513 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: hostile Miami like we're about to make a playoff push crowd. 514 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 4: This is gonna be probably more Jets fans that you know, 515 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 4: all the New Yorkers going down to Florida for you know, 516 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 4: the winter. 517 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 2: Yea, there's probably be more Jet fans than Dolphins fans. 518 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 4: So yeah, at eight and a half, I was thinking 519 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 4: maybe tease Miami inside of three. 520 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 2: But now, all right, this is a no touch for me. 521 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: This line has gone way too high in my opinion. 522 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: I know the Jets are banged up, but again nine 523 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 4: and a half ten, I lean forwards New York staying 524 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 4: within this big number. 525 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 3: If they get If it goes back to ten, I 526 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: I'd like it. 527 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: And again that's that's how I I originally said, all right, 528 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: I'll take this when it got even at nine and 529 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: a half though I still think, Man, I still think 530 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: it's there, and I bet it now because you know 531 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: this is again one like be very careful about betting 532 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: early and. 533 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 3: So especially especially right now, especially right now. 534 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, well right generally speaking, like, I 535 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: don't have a problem if you want to make a 536 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: bet on Thursday, but for right now, goodness gracious, but 537 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: I do think if there is a game that you 538 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: feel comfortable with that you want to bet now, this 539 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: probably is one. 540 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 3: Because we know the. 541 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: Dolphins have a COVID issue going on right now, because 542 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: we've known it forever. So I think the likelihood of 543 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: COVID affecting that team is higher than it is any 544 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: other team almost except for the Browns right in the 545 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: Rams and stuff like that. So I'd be okay if 546 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: you're on the Jets side right now, because I do 547 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: think if anything, this is just going to hurt. 548 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 3: Probably the Dolphins. Coke from all right, read third bet? 549 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: What do you got? 550 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 551 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 4: I'm going with another underdog Bengals. This I got two 552 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 4: and a half. 553 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 2: Is that still work? 554 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 3: It is two and a half? 555 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 4: Two and a half another game that I can't really 556 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 4: understand what this line is, So last week in the 557 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 4: look ahead market. 558 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: And again this isn't like the end all be all. 559 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: It's sometimes a little arbitrary, but the look ahead market 560 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 4: for this game was Bengals minus three, so that's now 561 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 4: they're getting nearly three. 562 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 2: So we're getting a full on switch. 563 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 4: Let's just what happened in that time spam. They were 564 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow finger issues. He ended up slinging all over 565 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 4: the Broncos. He threw for over three hundred yard, slinging 566 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 4: all over the forty nine ers over three hundred yards 567 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 4: almost one in overtime. The Broncos be a lion team 568 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 4: that almost couldn't feel the full roster because. 569 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 2: Of flu issues, and that was an easy win. They 570 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 2: were double died your favorites. 571 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 4: So why is this line flipping from Bengals minus three 572 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 4: to Broncos minus two and a half? I just I 573 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 4: can't get there with this number. I make the Bengals 574 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 4: one point favorites here. So I actually played the Bengals 575 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 4: on the money line earlier in the week and the 576 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 4: number keeps going against me, which maybe I'm missing something, 577 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: but here are just a few numbers that make me 578 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 4: stick by my Bengals piece Bengals are number two in 579 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 4: defensive rushing success rate this year. This is a Broncos 580 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 4: offense that's gonna lean on the likes of Javonte Williams 581 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 4: to kind of establish the run to set up Teddy 582 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 4: Bridgewater two pass the Broncos in that stat they're thirtieth. 583 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: So if Joe Mixon is able to. 584 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 4: You know, I know that he's kind of been on 585 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: the injury report, but if he's healthy enough to play, 586 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 4: he's gonna find success against this Broncos defense that is 587 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 4: going to get the likes of Jamar Chase open downfield, 588 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 4: t Higgins get Burrow going. So again, the Bengals have 589 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 4: a higher rated defense and pretty much all metrics. The 590 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 4: Broncos have a really concerning special teams metric and they 591 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 4: have a Denver boost with that they're outside the top 592 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 4: twenty five and special team special teams DVOA. So there's 593 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 4: a lot of metrics going towards Cincinnati. For me, maybe 594 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 4: I'm dead wrong, Dan, maybe you can help me out here, 595 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 4: but I bet the Bengals again another teaser piece. I 596 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 4: love give me the better quarterback with Joe Burrow. I 597 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 4: just think that this is a complete overreaction. I'm in 598 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 4: complete agreement with you. 599 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: And what's great about this read is that I have 600 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: faded the Bengals all year because I think that they 601 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: have been an overrated team. 602 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 3: And you know, you just look at DVA It's almost so. 603 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 1: Even last week. That was one of the reasons why 604 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: I looked at it. I was like, look, the forty 605 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: nine ers are like ninth in DVOA. You know that 606 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: the Bengals are always like, Oh, the Bengals are a 607 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: good team, and they're like eighteenth or nineteenth or wherever 608 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,959 Speaker 1: they are. I think they have been overrated. And I 609 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: was specifically worried about Joe Burrow's finger. He looked fantastic, Yeah, zero, 610 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: zero issues from it, zero, which I was so impressed. 611 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: I've been so impressed with Burrow the whole year. I 612 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: expected him to struggle early in the year as he 613 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: mentally sort of got. 614 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 2: Over the hurdle of the injury. 615 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: He's been fantastic, basically the most impressed player like with 616 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: him this year. But I completely agree with you, and 617 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: I said about this on Monday. We do like an 618 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: early look aheadline show where we're like, oh, what's your 619 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: instant reaction to this and again, I'm a guy who 620 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: basically has faded the Bengals, and even I think at 621 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: that point it might have been a pick em. Maybe 622 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: they were plus one or something. I was like, oh God, 623 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: give me them his dough like any day of the 624 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: week here. They are a much better team than the 625 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: Broncos in my opinion at this point, coming in like 626 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: regardless of anything, the fact that they're getting almost a 627 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: field goal, I love it as a teaser pieces we 628 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: I'll like get it to eight and a half, because 629 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: you saw last week, right they were on the verge. 630 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: It looked like the forty nine ers were gonna run. 631 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 1: With that because of flukey players by the way, like 632 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: punt funnels and stuff like that. 633 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 3: They just came right back. You know, they are able 634 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 3: to if they have to. 635 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: They can move the ball because of their three wide receivers, 636 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: because of Burrow, because of mixing, they can move the ball. 637 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: I think they win this game, out right, I really do. 638 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: I think they go into Denver. I don't get the money. 639 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean when a line moves like this read out 640 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: of curiosity, like do you think that's because there are 641 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: a ton of like quote big you know, sharp betters 642 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: coming in and betting the Broncos. 643 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: Is that why it's moving like this? 644 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like every situation is kind of its 645 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 4: own thing. And look, maybe there's an underlying COVID issue 646 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 4: coming like at this point, like you know, I'm almost 647 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 4: like scared of my own shadow when it comes to 648 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 4: like you know, it hasn't hit a key number of 649 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 4: three yet, so if it hits three, that's when I'm like, Okay, 650 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 4: maybe I'm missing something. But like to me, two and 651 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 4: a half, one and a half, maybe it's just money 652 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 4: coming in on the Broncos. Maybe it's a bigger better 653 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 4: really signing with the Broncos. But to me, I make 654 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 4: my own numbers. I trust my instincts here. I've watched 655 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 4: this game and again, if we're looking at last week, 656 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 4: for example, the Bengals closed this home underdogs there and 657 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: limited the Niners to twenty points in regulation. I know 658 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 4: they let up a touchdown overtime, but I'm gonna call 659 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 4: it twenty points. 660 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 2: They live. 661 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 4: They shut down that Niners offense in the second half. 662 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 4: They got back in that game because their defense could play. 663 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 4: And Trey Hendrickson he's on track to play this weekend. 664 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 4: I just I can't get to this number with the 665 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 4: Broncos based off of them blowing out the Lions. I 666 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 4: know they beat the Charges of the week before, two 667 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 4: weeks before that, but we saw them play a tougher 668 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 4: defense in the Chiefs and the Bengals defense is really 669 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: good this year. They are one of the most underrated 670 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 4: units in the league, and that's what I think actually 671 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 4: gives them the edge in this game. I think that 672 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 4: their defense is gonna hold off enough to get Burrow 673 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 4: his opportunities to take takeover. 674 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 2: So yeah, listen, I'm all over the Bengals in this one. 675 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: I'm with you, and I will say, there are threes 676 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: out there, man at points Bet at Fox Bet it's 677 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: three right. 678 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 4: Maybe I'm missing something and maybe I'm just dead wrong, 679 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 4: but again, give me Joe Burrow over Cheddy Bridgewater. 680 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: If that's what it really comes down to, you may 681 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: be dead. But I assume with everybody. 682 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: But I will say this like I don't have a 683 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: problem saying and I hope you don't either. When I 684 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: disagree with the bet like I have disagree I mean 685 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: Pat and I were on opposite sides. That was like 686 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: I don't usually do that. I don't usually say, okay, well, 687 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: I'm actually going to take the opposite side. 688 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: And we were. 689 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: Joking because of the fact that, like that game wound 690 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: up going into overtime, so of course neither one of 691 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: us could really hang our hat. 692 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 3: But I am with you on this bet. 693 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: Like this is not one where I'm like, yeah, I 694 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: could see that, or I'm not gonna bet it. Like 695 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: I like it, especially like it as a teaser piece, 696 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: but I don't understand it either. Didn't understand it on Monday, 697 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: don't right now. And that is coming from maybe the 698 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: world's foremost Bengals fader. So I really do like it. 699 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to go for my last one to a 700 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: total finding spreads this week. We're really tough. This one's 701 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: going to be and again, this one, I hope absolutly 702 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: a huge defensive sort of you know, COVID thing is 703 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: not really going to be affected by COVID, and it 704 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: is the Bills and the Panthers under Actually I'm going 705 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: to double check to make sure I have they're right. 706 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: It's forty four and a half last time I checked it. 707 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna double check it right now. It's still 708 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: forty four and a half. 709 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: Very good. Okay, So I don't know. 710 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: Man to me, this strikes with his game where the 711 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: Bills are number one still in defensive DVOA. Like just overall, 712 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: Carolina's offense is horrific, right Like, I don't know is 713 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: are they gonna. 714 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: Split again Cam Newton and PJ. 715 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: Walker? 716 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: And I know Sam Darnold was designated to return from 717 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: injury reserve. I don't expect him to play, but even 718 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: if he does, I don't really care. That offense is 719 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: terrible without Christian McCaffrey. DJ Moore is a hamstring issue. 720 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: He's gonna play, but again that's a little scary. They've 721 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: got no running game whatsoever right now going on. And 722 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: for the Bills, I mean their they obviously need to 723 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: win this game. Their offense is not in sync right now. 724 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: Everything that's going on is just bad. Josh Allen has 725 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: this foot sprain and he's gonna play, of course. 726 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: And he's amazing. 727 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: But I do think that this is the type of 728 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: game where you can basically put like the Panthers will 729 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: put Gilmore Han Stefan Diggs and they'll give him some 730 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: help over the top. And I think, I think this 731 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: is just a game with the Patriots up next week, 732 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: which is a game the Bills are going to have 733 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: to win to have any sort of semblance right of 734 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: possibly taking the division, depending on what happens here on 735 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 1: Saturday night, of course, but they're gonna have to win. 736 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: They're gonna want to play this. They know they can 737 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: beat the Panthers. They're gonna want to play conservatively. I 738 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: think you're gonna Seean McDermott say, like, we've got to 739 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: get some sort of semblance of a run game going 740 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: because our passing game right now is not working. To 741 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: try to get Devin Singletary, who again every team abandons 742 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: like doesn't even try to run the ball against the box. Like, 743 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: I get it, but they haven't had a run game 744 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: all year. They need something, like they need to sort 745 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: of have some sort of balance. I think they try 746 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: to get it here, and I think that that's really 747 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: what we're going to get. So I think this is 748 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: a game again where the Bills kind of play it 749 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: tight and conservative, no faith whatsoever in the Panthers' ability 750 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: to put up points. 751 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: I was burned on the Panthers under last week. 752 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: I get it because I had the falcon, But I 753 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: do think that the Bills are not going to go 754 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: explosive here and try that. I think they're going to 755 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: get back to conservative game plan, keep everyone healthy, understand 756 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: that they can win this game without doing too much 757 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: rely on their defense. And I'll take the under here 758 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: forty four and a half, which, by the way, it's 759 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: like one of the higher totals of the week in 760 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: what is just a ridiculously low total here, So aileen under, 761 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: which always gets me a little nervous, even though I 762 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: like unders because, as our friend Chris Raybaund says, it's 763 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: like you're winning the game as soon as it starts 764 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: like automatically, and I know people hate it. So I'll 765 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: go under there and the Bills. 766 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 3: And the Panthers. 767 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm totally with you. 768 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 4: This was actually a game I was like, I have 769 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 4: like circle, I have like my little post it that 770 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 4: I like write down the bets I'm really looking to make, 771 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 4: like you know, certain numbers and stuff. This is a 772 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 4: bet that circled right there I was looking at especially 773 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 4: this morning. 774 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna ride this with you. 775 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 4: I mean, it's supposed to be freezing in Buffalo and 776 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 4: right we're talking, we're talking quick teams. 777 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: You know where we were talking about. Yeah, last segment. 778 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 4: The Panthers are a quick team. They fire their offensive 779 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 4: coordinator Joe Brady. The Cam Newton on back luster has 780 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 4: already came off. So I'm totally with you here. And 781 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 4: like you said, they play the Pats next week, maybe 782 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 4: you know, pull the plug a little early. Really go 783 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 4: ground and pound, try and just get out of this 784 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 4: with a win. You know, something like twenty eight to 785 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 4: three really sounds like like this sounds like a buffalo suffocating. 786 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 4: Just workman like, win and move on. So I'm totally 787 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 4: with you here with this total. 788 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,479 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. That's how I see it. Like they 789 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: know they're gonna win this game, they have to win 790 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: this game. They also almost can use this to like 791 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: work on some stuff and be like, all right, let's 792 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: not take any chances or go crazy. 793 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 3: Let's just get here. So let's recap very quickly, and. 794 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: Then I will also go through the remaining spreads and 795 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: we'll just give our very quick takes on it. You 796 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: are taking the Steelers, let's call it plus two, the 797 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: Bengals plus two and a half, and the Patriots plus 798 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: two and a half. Here against the Colts, I'm going 799 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: to take the Pack laying five and a half against 800 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens the Jets. I'll call it nine and a 801 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: half right now, even though if it gets to ten, 802 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: wait on it, I'll get honorable man. Yes, this will 803 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: give me a reason to continue to watch my poor 804 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: football team getting nine and a half. I'll call it 805 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: from the Dolphins and the Bills in the Panther's under 806 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: forty four and a half. 807 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 3: So read, if you're. 808 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: Cool, let's just run through the remaining spreads and see 809 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: where we're at. If you have any lean Saturday night. 810 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what you do with the 811 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: Raiders at this point, because forget about tonight. 812 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 3: Oh you do, guy? Right now, the spread is the 813 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 3: Raiders laying one. What are you doing doing? 814 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna bet the Browns. 815 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna wait a little bit, but I'm gonna be 816 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 4: on the Browns in some capacity. I mean, I doubt 817 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 4: it gets me again, this is like kind of a 818 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 4: COVID steam thought. There's no point in betting right now 819 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 4: on the Browns because it's only There's probably gonna be 820 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 4: more positives throughout the week. So what's the rush, Especially 821 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 4: it's sitting on wonderright now if I have to bet 822 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 4: the Browns minus one. Sure, but this just seems like 823 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 4: an overreaction and Raiders possible quick team Browns playing for 824 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 4: their lives, and everyone talks about. 825 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: How bad Baker Mayfield is. 826 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 4: I get all the weapons are gone, he's playing with 827 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 4: basically a practice squad. But if case Keenum is really 828 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 4: not that big of a downgrade from Baker Mayfield, then 829 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 4: this line is a complete overreaction. So I'll be on 830 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 4: the Browns in some sort of capacity. Probably just can't 831 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 4: take the money long. Yeah, I mean it is one 832 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 4: and a half. You know at my book, you know DraftKings, 833 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 4: and you're in Jersey, are you? I'm in New York, 834 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 4: but I I'm from Jersey, so I'm typically going back 835 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 4: and forth. 836 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: Got it? 837 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: So you should have Fandel at least, right, and oh 838 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: you do have probably yeah whatever you probably. 839 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: I go all over the place. Oh I shove. 840 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 3: It a yeah, all right, Well I'm from New York too. 841 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 3: We'll talk later. 842 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, So it's one and a half at FanDuel 843 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: and it's one off at DraftKings, so I might have 844 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: a fun, just to have some Saturday fun. I might 845 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: do a teaser where I get the Browns up to 846 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: seven and a half and the Pats up to eight 847 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: and a half and then just hopefully have a relaxed night. 848 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: We already talked about the Pats and the Colt, so 849 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: we know where you are there. The Texans and the 850 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: Jacks are now at five, like it's all over the place. 851 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: Actually it's three and a half for me. The Texans 852 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: getting three and a half from Jaguars at DraftKings. It 853 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: is four at bet MGM, it is five at Fandle. 854 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: So this is all over the place. I guess with 855 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: the Meyer unless I miss something from this morning, I 856 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: guess is what the Urban Meyer news. So let's call 857 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: it five at this point, what do you think about 858 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: the Jags laying five to the Texans? 859 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 4: So I kind of lean Jacksonville before this news at three, 860 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 4: I was leaning there. I probably wasn't gonna bet it 861 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 4: just because I want to know part of the team. 862 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 4: I just thought they were dead. Now this like dead 863 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 4: cat bounce from Jacksonville. I actually made the Jags four 864 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 4: and a half point favorites, just like just my number, 865 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 4: pure number, Urban Meyer. 866 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 2: You can only downgrade them so much. 867 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 4: So like I think the Texans are really really bad, 868 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 4: So I lean Jacksonville. 869 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: This morning, I woke up and saw the Urban Myer News. 870 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 4: I put them in a moneyline parlay with the Niners 871 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 4: at minus one fourteen, so like basically around even odd 872 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 4: just to get the Jacks in there. Because I like Jacksonville. 873 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 4: I really think you're gonna see a spirited effort from them. 874 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 4: So I lean Jacksonville. 875 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: It's a big number, but I still I think the 876 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: Texans are that bad. I mean, it's really tough for 877 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: me again because with Meyer there there is no spread 878 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: and there is nothing that would make me back to Jacks, 879 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: just because I would not feel comfortable regardless of what 880 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: the numbers say. I think there are certain coaches and 881 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 1: are certain teams where they kind of bust your models 882 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: because they're bad. Now, yeah, I don't know, man. I 883 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: lean towards the Jaguars, but I'm staying away from it 884 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: for me. How about the Eagles now? 885 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 3: Again, dude, when I looked at it four and a 886 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 3: half on Monday, liked it. 887 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: There bet it, you know. And again I didn't anticipate 888 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: all of this sort of stuff. And now it's seven. 889 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: Obviously Washington has a mess. I think they put twenty 890 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: one players as of this morning on the COVID list. Yeah, 891 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: Heineg's not on it, by the way, but he is 892 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: battling the knee injury. We don't know if Terry mclaurin's 893 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: even gonna be able to play here with a concussion. 894 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 3: But it's seven. What do you think? 895 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: Uh? 896 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 4: This was another one. I tease the Eagles. This is 897 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 4: yesterday again, I bet pretty early in the week. I 898 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 4: tried to at least, so some of these things are 899 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 4: already in. But I tease the Eagles with the Bengals 900 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 4: actually last night. I mean, look, seven and a half. 901 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,919 Speaker 4: It's tough to lay in a division game this number. 902 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 4: But what like, just don't bet this game, Yeah, because 903 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 4: you don't know who's gonna be out, who's gonna play. 904 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 4: I mean, last week we saw the football team's defensive 905 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 4: line just get absolutely gashed on the ground. The offensive 906 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 4: line is banged up. I just what are this football team? 907 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 2: You're gonna get a bare bones roster Eagles off a bye. 908 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 4: Hurts even has a sprained ankles, so we don't really 909 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 4: know what that's gonna be like, Eagles in the playoff race. 910 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: This just seems like a whole mess of a game. 911 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 4: Right now that you know there are other games to 912 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 4: bet on, I would stay away from this one, but 913 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 4: again I tease the Eagles down. 914 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 2: Get that basically as a money line. 915 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: How about the Cowboys laying ten and a half to 916 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 3: your Giants? Apparently? 917 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm a Giants fan. I don't have much to 918 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 2: say about this one. 919 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 4: But the Giants are quickly just becoming a just a 920 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 4: dumpster fire? 921 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 2: Again? Is this a quick team? 922 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 4: Mike Lennon out there. I don't think Daniel Jones is 923 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 4: gonna play again. I don't think he's been ruled out, 924 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 4: but it seems like his season's probably over. Cowboys, But 925 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 4: what kind of eff you're gonna get out of the Cowboys? 926 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 4: This division's pretty much over? Do they go on cruise control? 927 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 4: Eileen Dallas? 928 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 2: No real play here? 929 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 4: You know, if you have any thoughts, you know you 930 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 4: might have more of a Yeah, this just seems like 931 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 4: a complete stay. 932 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: Away, complete stay away for me as well. Yeah, now, 933 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: not something I want to go anywhere near. I'm glad 934 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: you feel the same. What about the Cardinals here that 935 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: obviously just lost Andre Hopkins, don't know about James Connor. 936 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: They're still laying thirteen points on the road in Detroit. Right, Yeah, 937 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet Detroit. It's pretty gross. 938 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 4: But I guess they should be getting guys back off 939 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 4: their flu list, not COVID list, that flu list. But 940 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 4: if you look at Arizona, first of all, I think 941 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 4: they really dropped the ball on Monday night. That was 942 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 4: pretty you know, I love the Cardinals last year and they 943 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 4: burned me, and then this year I started feeding them 944 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 4: because I didn't think they were as elite as their 945 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 4: record and they were burning me. 946 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 2: So I just can't seem to get them right. 947 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 4: But that was a real opportunity to announce yourself as 948 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 4: an NFC contender because no one's really talking about you, 949 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 4: and I thought it was a pretty concerning performance against Listen, 950 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 4: the Rams are good, but so you're at home, you 951 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 4: have an opportunity to close this division, really establish yourself 952 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 4: as the one seed. And Kyle, so maybe a letdown 953 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 4: here on a short week, and they also finished with 954 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 4: a difficult schedule. I believe it's Dallas and then Seattle 955 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 4: or Dallas and another division opponent. 956 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 2: So is this a looking at spot? 957 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 4: Are they really gonna get pumped up to go to 958 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 4: Detroit and play the lowly Lions. And Arizona's one bad 959 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,479 Speaker 4: spot on their defense is their rush to I believe 960 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 4: they're twenty ninth in defensive rush success rate. So lines, 961 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 4: they like to get that ball out of Jared Goff's hands. 962 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 4: Just run the ball. So give me the lines at 963 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 4: this huge number. I'm probably gonna wait and see if 964 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 4: this goes back to fourteen. I doubt it gets there. 965 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 4: I'd play this down to I'll say twelve. 966 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: And a half. Yeah they do. They get Indy and 967 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: then Dallas and then Seattle to close out the season 968 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: here four hours. So yeah, no, I agree, I I like, 969 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: I think the number is too high, but I agree. 970 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: I'd wait on it. Hopefully it gets up, but yeah, 971 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: it's too high for me. We talked about the total, 972 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: but what about the spread here in the Bills laying 973 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,439 Speaker 1: ten and a half at home against Patanthers. 974 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 2: I like the Bills. I like we said. 975 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 4: I think that this just sets up for a workman like, 976 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 4: just like kind of blowout. Like we've seen the Bills 977 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 4: beat up on bad teams too. You know, they cover 978 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 4: these big spreads when they're a better team. They really 979 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 4: make sure everyone knows they're the better team, So I 980 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,959 Speaker 4: lean Bills, even if it's mister Bitsky if he gets time. 981 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 4: I don't know what they're gonna do with Josh Allen. 982 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 4: I still like the Bills at pretty much any number. 983 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't I if I have to 984 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: go one way, I'll go with the Bills for sure, 985 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: because I can't see the Panthers sticking in this game. 986 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 3: Falcons getting nine and a half in San Francisco. 987 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: You mentioned already sort of doing the money line parlay 988 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: there right with San Francisco. 989 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 3: So what do you think about this with the spread through? 990 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 4: I lean San Francisco even at this big number. I think, 991 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 4: I really think Atlanta's bad, and I just and it 992 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 4: seems like Atlanta they again, it's they beat up on 993 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 4: their inferior opponents and then they lose to you know, 994 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 4: the better closer to elite performance are elite perform elite teams. 995 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 4: I don't know if San Francisco is there yet, but 996 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 4: this feels like a game where San Francisco continues to 997 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 4: get a little momentum here down the stretch. Everyone's talking 998 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 4: about them as like kind of that trendy. No one 999 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,399 Speaker 4: wants to see us team. 1000 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm. 1001 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 4: There yet, just because Jimmy Garoppolo, But yeah, it feels 1002 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,919 Speaker 4: like this is a real spot where San Francisco kind 1003 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 4: of beats up on an inferior opponent like Atlanta. So 1004 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 4: again I took the money line. Anything under ten. I 1005 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 4: think this is still pretty good. I don't hate the 1006 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 4: over either. I could see San Francisco really putting up 1007 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 4: some big points on Atlanta. 1008 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 3: All Right, the total, let me just pull it up 1009 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 3: so I can get it. Whatever it is. 1010 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 1: The consensus total is forty six, so all right, it's 1011 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 1: over there. 1012 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 3: Okay, very good. 1013 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: How about the Rams hosting the Seahawks. It's now down 1014 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: to four and a half. It opened it. I looked 1015 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: at it on Monday with seven. So obviously the COVID 1016 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: issues sort of, you know, I'm sure at least affecting that. 1017 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 3: So what do you think here at four and a half. 1018 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 2: I kind of like Seattle. 1019 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 4: I think that maybe Russ is starting to round it 1020 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 4: to form one last playoff push short week for LA. 1021 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,959 Speaker 4: Of course, the COVID issues, you don't really know who's 1022 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 4: gonna shoot off. I'm I'm probably not gonna end up 1023 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 4: betting this game, just because of all the uncertainty around it. 1024 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 4: But I do lean with Seattle catching four and a 1025 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 4: half and again getting Russ as a dog is kind 1026 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 4: of a almost an auto bet situation. 1027 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 2: You know, do you have a play? 1028 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I again, I'm kind of steering clear of 1029 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 4: this one, just because of all the uncertainty. 1030 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like them early in the week, and I 1031 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: bet it briefly at seven because it was Yeah, it 1032 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: was six and a half where I was in got 1033 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: the seven I went there. Now it's four and a half. 1034 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: I still I'm with you, though, I lean to them 1035 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,359 Speaker 1: at four and a half because Russ to me looked 1036 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: appreciably different when I in this most recent game, I think, 1037 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: than what he had looked like. Other than that, since 1038 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 1: he came back like he looks strong. The Rams are, 1039 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: you know, good effort here, but they're obviously beat up. 1040 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: They'll probably be without Beckham. Who knows what other COVID 1041 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: issues they're gonna be dealing with. So I do like 1042 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: getting the Seahawks here at four and a half. How 1043 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: about the Saints visiting the box on Sunday night? 1044 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 3: Eleven? Is the spread here? 1045 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I lean towards the Saints. 1046 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 4: I don't have a play on it just yet. It 1047 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 4: just Sean Payton's great as a dog. He's great in division. 1048 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 4: I don't have the numbers up in front of me. 1049 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,720 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure he's nineteen and ten straight up against 1050 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 4: the Bucks. Not that they're gonna win this game, but 1051 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 4: we saw earlier this year the Saints defense that is 1052 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 4: getting healthier gave Tom Brady a ton of issues. I 1053 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 4: think Tampa Bay is rolling though. I really think that 1054 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 4: they are the best team in the NFL. I don't 1055 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 4: think there's much debate there, and Tom Brady is gonna 1056 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 4: probably win. End up warning MVP, but this is a 1057 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 4: big number, primetime game. I think the Saints are gonna 1058 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 4: hang around in this one, and. 1059 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 2: I lean Saints. 1060 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm gonna play yet though, And 1061 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 4: I tweet out all my plays. I have a bet 1062 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 4: stamp on my time to my profile, so when I 1063 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 4: say I lean away, you could find these plays when 1064 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 4: I tweet them in real time very good. 1065 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 3: I like that. 1066 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm in agreement with you by the way that I 1067 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: leaned towards the Saints. They just always you know, they're 1068 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: gonna play them tough. They played them obviously, they won 1069 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,280 Speaker 1: the last game that they played, So this just strikes 1070 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: me as a game that's gonna be single. 1071 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 3: Digits, however it ends up with the Bucks. But yeah, it's. 1072 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: Also one that I'm not running to bet. I'm taking 1073 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: my time on it, and I'm gonna see last one 1074 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: Monday Night football. The Bears are getting three and a 1075 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: half at home against the Vikings. I did just come 1076 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: across that. I guess Bill. 1077 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 3: Laser was placed in COVID protocol. 1078 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: Don't know whether or not Laser is gonna be there, 1079 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: not sure that matters to whatsoever, but three and a 1080 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: half here getting it at home. 1081 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I've retired from betting Vikings games this year, 1082 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,760 Speaker 4: just for like my heart. Like, you know, it's college 1083 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 4: I bet a lot of college basketball. That's enough heartache 1084 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 4: for me. Vikings might be a little too much for me. 1085 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 2: Road favorite. I mean, they need the game, do the 1086 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 2: Bears care? 1087 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 4: I feel like maybe last Sunday Night was kind of 1088 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 4: a last ditch, like let's really go for it. This 1089 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 4: could easy be a game where they roll over. I 1090 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,919 Speaker 4: guess I lean Minnesota. Though, if I had to play 1091 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,439 Speaker 4: the side, like in a pick the pool, I'll probably 1092 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 4: be on Minnesota because I made them bigger favorites. Maybe 1093 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,240 Speaker 4: the over just because it seems like the Bears offense 1094 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 4: with fields kind of got a shot of life, maybe 1095 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 4: some speed. Maybe they kind of just like throw the 1096 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,239 Speaker 4: book out and just say that, like, let's just go 1097 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 4: for it. Let's like start going for all fourth down, 1098 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 4: maybe get a little crazy Vikings offense. We know, and listen, 1099 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 4: this game will probably go down to the wire because 1100 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 4: it's a Vikings game. 1101 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 2: So I lean Vikings, I lean over. 1102 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna stay away from it though, Yeah, unless 1103 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm just desperate to have a little something. 1104 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, on Monday night, I'm running away. I'm running away 1105 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 3: from it. I I just like, there's no way the Vikings. 1106 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean, if that game against the Steelers didn't just 1107 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: tell you can't bet on the Vikings no matter what, nothing, 1108 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 1: because they just they have no killer instinct, nobility to 1109 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: put away games. So that's where I Matt read. I'm 1110 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: so glad to finally have you on the podcast. I 1111 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Just remind everybody where they can check 1112 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: you out and your work. Yeah, check us out over 1113 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: at betsided. That'sfanside dot com. 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