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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, Emily ABOUDI here you are listening to episode

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Speaker 2: one fifty five of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast where

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Speaker 2: I sit down with inspiring individuals to talk about big wins,

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Speaker 2: really takes to follow your passions. My mission is simple

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Speaker 2: to inspire you to be your best self, move with intention,

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Speaker 2: so excited to bring you my conversation with Acin ackman Man.

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Speaker 2: I have known Achen for a while and this conversation

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Speaker 2: what seems like forever. Growing up, Acen tells us in

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Speaker 2: coming to terms with his circumstance during that hurdle moment,

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting down with Acan Ackman. He is the co

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, no, I wasn't. I was just like really excited.

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Speaker 1: And uh, and I'm really like I have a lot

439
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: of energy, and when I'm screaming, my veins are like popping.

440
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if people can hear me.

441
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: I can't hear myself. Music's blasting. I had, Like it

442
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: was such a high, Like I was so excited and

443
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Speaker 1: nervous and at this point, you know, being an athlete

444
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: my whole life, I can channel my nerves and my

445
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Speaker 1: energy into action, and I like went all out and

446
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: I was like cramping while I was like screaming and

447
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: like and then it ended and it was just like this,

448
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: like such a high that I was so exhausted. Afterwards,

449
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, it just happened. That was awesome.

450
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: I can do this all the time. And then that's

451
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: like how it started in group fitness. And so I

452
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: transferred over to New York when I decided to move here,

453
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: and I came here also because Ford Models wanted me

454
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: here and I did well when I visited, so I

455
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: decided to move and then had me re audition that Crunch.

456
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Speaker 1: So I read auditioned at Crunch and they took me

457
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Speaker 1: on and I had a regular schedule and bit by

458
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Speaker 1: bit everything like actually my my Crunch sessions, they were

459
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: full immediately and whenever I would sub out, everyone would

460
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: be so upset. And that's kind of where it started.

461
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: And they were like, akin, you need to make you know,

462
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Speaker 1: a website or a Facebook page and let us know

463
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Speaker 1: when you can't you know when you're gonna sub at

464
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: six am and this and that, and I was like, Okay,

465
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Speaker 1: I'll do it. And I made a Facebook page and

466
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: they told me, they said, call us Akins Army and

467
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: and they told me the name. I was like okay,

468
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: and yeah, they're like call us Atkins Army.

469
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 4: I was like okay.

470
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Speaker 1: And then I started building that and I went on

471
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Speaker 1: Instagram and made Akins Army there as well. And then

472
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Speaker 1: they would ask for clothing or merchandise and and I

473
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'll do that too, and I would.

474
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Speaker 4: Go to American Apparel.

475
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Speaker 1: I made my logo photoshop an illustrator and like screenprinted

476
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Speaker 1: all these things on like Blank's merchandise at American Apparel,

477
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Speaker 1: and then I would give him out to everyone.

478
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Speaker 4: And that's kind of how it all started.

479
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Speaker 1: And then I made my website from the logo too,

480
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Speaker 1: and my now partner I would go to his office,

481
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Speaker 1: Lared and Partners.

482
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Speaker 4: He had this huge branding firm, so I'd be like.

483
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Speaker 1: Hey, can I like, can I download photoshop from you guys,

484
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Speaker 1: and like and what do you think about this logo.

485
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Speaker 4: And try to like, you know, get him in on it.

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Speaker 1: And he helped me with that too, and that's kind

487
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Speaker 1: of where I started convincing him to work with me

488
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Speaker 1: too and build what is now Army.

489
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Speaker 3: Wow.

490
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Speaker 1: But it was it was like a process and when

491
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Speaker 1: I when it was funny because at the time, like

492
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Speaker 1: none of these studios existed, like Soul Cycle was. I

493
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: didn't even know about it. I didn't know about Flywheel.

494
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, they were all recruiting me.

495
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: They were all coming to Crunch and taking my class

496
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: there and recruiting me. And and so when I went

497
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Speaker 1: in and met Julian Elizabeth, I really like them and

498
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Speaker 1: their energy. So I went in and Julie offered me

499
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Speaker 1: the position, and I was like, well, okay, well I model,

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Speaker 1: and so I can't go too far away from where

501
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Speaker 1: I live because I like after the you know, after coaching,

502
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Speaker 1: I need to come back change and like run to

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Speaker 1: an audition.

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Speaker 4: So I need the mid days free.

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Speaker 1: I can work in the morning or in the afternoon,

506
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Speaker 1: and then I have to sub out whenever for any

507
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Speaker 1: gigs that I have because I'm also in that world.

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Speaker 4: And she was like okay, okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, I had thirty two

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Speaker 1: to thirty four classes a week there, and I was

511
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Speaker 1: on top of it still at Crunch doing my boot camps.

512
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Speaker 1: So I was teaching forty five hours a week. And

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Speaker 1: meanwhile I had told them that I needed these windows,

514
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Speaker 1: but that freedom gave me like the you know, the

515
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Speaker 1: the chance to go all in, and when I did

516
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Speaker 1: go all in, it kind of all changed.

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Speaker 2: Julian and Elizabeth obviously soul Cycle. I've had Charlie on

562
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Speaker 2: the show before. She's saying their praises as well. I

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Speaker 2: know both of you have a history with the company.

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Speaker 2: For you, when you started teaching that many classes a week,

565
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Speaker 2: did you at the beginning ask yourself like, am I

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Speaker 2: capable of this? Or did you always just have this

567
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Speaker 2: unwavering belief in yourself that you were strong enough to

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Speaker 2: handle what you were getting into.

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Speaker 4: Oh? My thing was like, I've been trained for this

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Speaker 4: my whole life.

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Speaker 1: And not to mention, if I'm going to be a

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Speaker 1: coach and I'm going to demand a certain level of

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Speaker 1: excellence from my athletes and I want them to have

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Speaker 1: a space to grow. I, as the coach, need to

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Speaker 1: show up and put in the hours so that my

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Speaker 1: athletes have a chance to actually grow into that expectation

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Speaker 1: or that vision that I have.

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Speaker 4: It's more for the people.

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Speaker 1: And it didn't start right away where it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: first they gave me like five six ams, you know,

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Speaker 1: five or six am, and then I had a nine

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Speaker 1: thirty PM.

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Speaker 4: So it was like, you know, they get me the midday.

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Speaker 1: Free, really, and so when I started being able to,

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Speaker 1: you know, sell out, because they also like not Julian Elizabeth,

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00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: but the training program would say like, well, you you know,

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Speaker 1: can sell out classes at Crunch where they have a

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Speaker 1: membership and it's free to train with you basically, but

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Speaker 1: can you sell out when it's you know, thirty two

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Speaker 1: per class?

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Speaker 4: And I was like, of course I can. I'm the best.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, and no one is going to

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Speaker 1: show up the way I'm going to show up, not

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Speaker 1: only just physically, but in terms of learning everything that

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Speaker 1: I need to know to be a coach. I'm always learning,

596
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: always growing, always building in every way because once my

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Speaker 1: athletes reach a.

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Speaker 4: Certain level, it's up to me to bring them even higher.

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Speaker 2: And I think this, I think this mentality is really interesting,

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Speaker 2: right because a lot of people struggle with saying a

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Speaker 2: sentence that you just said, like I am the best,

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Speaker 2: or I can do this, or just having that like

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Speaker 2: unwavering sense of self belief for you, I mean you

604
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Speaker 2: were at the beginning arguably despite being good at what

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Speaker 2: you were doing, like, you were still relatively early in

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Speaker 2: your career, especially compared to where you are now. So

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Speaker 2: where do you think that came from your background in tennis?

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Speaker 1: Well, when I went into sul cycle, I already had

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Speaker 1: like seven eight years of experience, you know, as a

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Speaker 1: group fitness coach.

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Speaker 4: So that was one and two.

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Speaker 1: I have already been through times where I let other

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Speaker 1: people's limited thoughts affect mine or let them dictate who

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Speaker 1: I can be, and I was no longer doing that

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Speaker 1: and there was no space for that. And I was that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I know who I am and how I

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Speaker 1: show up and all the time that I put into.

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Speaker 4: This world.

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Speaker 1: It's literally my whole life. So in the way, nobody

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Speaker 1: has the experience I have. So that was my mindset

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Speaker 1: coming in. And then I was also not saying that

622
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Speaker 1: I'm you know, done learning able to also see and

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Speaker 1: learn from everything else that was happening around me and

624
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Speaker 1: everyone else that was also doing well in the in

625
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Speaker 1: the field.

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Speaker 2: It must have been crazy for you when you started

627
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Speaker 2: to sell out those fives, those sixes, because I remember

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Speaker 2: when we met, this is probably a little over five

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Speaker 2: years ago. Now, you were an instructor where if I

630
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Speaker 2: didn't sign up within thirty seconds of your class going live,

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Speaker 2: you don't sign up, you don't get in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And that was for Imagine.

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Speaker 1: That was for thirty four classes a week at Solo

634
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Speaker 1: Cycle and all the thirty four classes. So even like

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Speaker 1: the times that other people will say it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's the time slot, Like that time slot is bad, Like,

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Speaker 1: there are no bad time slots if you have a mission,

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Speaker 1: because the mission is not about me selling out. The

639
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: mission is to create a space for people to come

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00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: in and actually grow. And through teaching them a skill

641
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: and giving them the time to actually build the skill,

642
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: you get to build their mindset and then they can

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Speaker 1: go off. And I call people my champions, like champions

644
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: in all different walks of life, applying the same mentality

645
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: and philosophy that you learn in practice to raising your kids,

646
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: to leading your team, to running your company, to even

647
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: running a marathon. Like there's so many different ways that

648
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: you can use this. You train for life, and then

649
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 1: also the people that you get to surround yourself with

650
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: your team. Your community also gets to step with you

651
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: on that journey.

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Speaker 3: What year did you run the marathon?

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Speaker 4: I think we ran it twenty sixteen.

654
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Speaker 2: So let's just give the hurdlers like a little snippet

655
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Speaker 2: into your marathon story. What inspired you to.

656
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Speaker 3: Run a marathon?

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Speaker 2: And what would you not advise someone listening to this

658
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Speaker 2: podcast to do if they want to run a marathon.

659
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Speaker 4: So I got so I wanted to run the marathon.

660
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Speaker 1: So I started doing these things where I kind of

661
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: speak what I want out loud into the universe and

662
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: then the universe yeah, and the universe gives you the

663
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: opportunity or the shot. So I was like, I really

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Speaker 1: want to run the marathon. And then all of a sudden,

665
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: I get a DM from A six and they're like, hey,

666
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: you want to be on our team for the New

667
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: York Marathon. I was like, yes, yes, I do. And

668
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: then they had this whole program where you run with

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00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: a coach or you train with the coach, and I

670
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: was like, okay, but I don't have the time because

671
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: I have work, because I have, you know, thirty four

672
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: classes at sohul Cycle and then I have like eight

673
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: to ten more.

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Speaker 4: That I teach at.

675
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: Now I think I was either at Crntstale or I

676
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: had switched to Bandier with Army for the Akins Army anyway,

677
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: so I was.

678
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 4: Like, I don't have the time to do that.

679
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: And I literally ran twice or three times before the marathon.

680
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: Twice I did a four mile at Barry's and once

681
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: I ran on my own for ten miles and I

682
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not going to look at my watch.

683
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: I'm just going to run. And I was like that's

684
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: got to be twenty miles. And then I had to

685
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: really go to the bathroom, so I had to stop running,

686
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: and then it was ten miles so that was it.

687
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Speaker 1: And then we get to the race and I'm, you know,

688
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: sitting in with like we got access to the VIP

689
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: section with a six, so I was sitting in the

690
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: tent and some of the people on the team were like, oh,

691
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: like did you know, how did you train? And I

692
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't really run, but I cycle a lot.

693
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, what do you want to get

694
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Speaker 1: as your time? And I was like, I want to

695
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: get like three hours, three hours and fifteen minutes is

696
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: my goal.

697
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 4: And they laughed at me.

698
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: And they're like, if you didn't run, there's no shot

699
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: that you're doing that.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, this is what I needed. Thank you.

701
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 4: And then of course do you remember this. I think

702
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: you were with me.

703
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: I was with you.

704
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if I was with you at this

705
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 2: moment when the people were like, you're crazy. We were

706
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: on the bus together. We were on the bus together,

707
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 2: and I was just sitting next to you being like.

708
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: Who is this superhuman? Give them the outcome.

709
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: I did three eleven and and actually I was still

710
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: projected to finish in two forty five at mile eighteen,

711
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: but no excuses. But like my music died and I

712
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: had already like I was so sore. So I wouldn't

713
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Speaker 1: recommend you to go and run a marathon without running,

714
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Speaker 1: because it is I mean, my breathing is fine from cycling,

715
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: but you're you're using muscles that you don't use while

716
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: you cycle. So my legs were like I had to

717
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: talk to my legs. I was like, nope, we are

718
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 1: not stabbing. You get your shit together and you finish

719
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: this marathon. You do it under three fifteen, that's the goal,

720
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Speaker 1: and I did.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad that he said this. I'm just going to

722
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: reiterate it again.

723
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Speaker 2: No one on this podcast is advising anyone to go

724
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Speaker 2: run a marathon without running, just like going to put

725
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: that into the universe.

726
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 3: At least three times you should train.

727
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: So what that story basically established is you are a nut,

728
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: of course, But in all of your years of being

729
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 2: this active, what has your experience been working with either

730
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Speaker 2: like physical therapists or talking to doctors about like what

731
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: it is that you're putting your body through.

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Speaker 1: I haven't needed to really go to too many physical

733
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: therapists appointments or anything. I've been really good about my

734
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: mobility and flexibility and my pliability. Right after the back injury,

735
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: like it was, you know, the way you come back

736
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: from that is a first you don't do anything then,

737
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 1: and you just like my physical therapist at the time

738
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: was also a chiropractor, and he would basically realign me

739
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: every day, and that's all I could do at first,

740
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: realignment and electric stem and then I started to be

741
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,479
Speaker 1: able to stretch without pain. So that's all I did,

742
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: stretch and foam role and then I was clear to

743
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: swim and cycle and then that's all those things is

744
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: all I did, you know, So I kept that as

745
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: a part of my routine, and that's become Army Stretch

746
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: now and cycling is obviously huge in army. And then

747
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: the boot camps are also a lot of the movements,

748
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: especially at the base of it, are all corrective movements

749
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: that I did in PT.

750
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Speaker 4: And what I did growing up at IMG training.

751
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: So I developed this method that is, you know, it

752
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: is functional training for people's lives, and if you're.

753
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 4: Doing it correctly, it's going to really benefit you.

754
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: Talk to me about the transition from soul cycle to

755
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: going out on your own soul cycle.

756
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Speaker 4: I have to say it was really, really great.

757
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: I had a non compete obviously, and uh, and I resigned.

758
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: And then I said, because I'm not going to be

759
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: able to do anything for twelve months, we can activate

760
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 1: the resignition, but I can still stay and and teach

761
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: if you if you guys will have me, And they

762
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: did and and so the transition was pretty smooth. Initially

763
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: it wasn't all sold out, but I mean, but we

764
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: did have a great base and and so we had

765
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: to build that. The business side is different. Training coaches

766
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: is different. Teaching people your method and your language is different.

767
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,919
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot that goes into going off

768
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: on your own and with a team, because it's not

769
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: your on your own uh you partners, you have people

770
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: that depend on you. You you know, you set the

771
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: uh the example, and and so you have to build

772
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: this whole culture within and then that has to be

773
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: felt for the people that are on the outside of

774
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: that as well. So it's been a really, really great

775
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: experience in terms of learning and growing, not only as

776
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: a coach, but as a person and an entrepreneur.

777
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you launched shortly before the pandemic really kicked

778
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: in here, So what was that experience like for you?

779
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: I would assume that it felt comparable to when you

780
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: had those hernated discs in your back and you were like,

781
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 2: I worked so hard to get here, how is this

782
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: happening right now?

783
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 1: Well, actually it wasn't that. That thought process wasn't.

784
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 4: There at all.

785
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: It was more like, Okay, how do I figure out

786
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: to how do I figure out a way to keep

787
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: showing up. I didn't know that it was going to

788
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: be you know, nobody knew it was going to be

789
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: like a year. My thing was like, Okay, what can

790
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: I do today? I'm shutting down for the safety of

791
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: the community. And the athletes and the team, the internal team.

792
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: But then how do I keep showing up? Because we

793
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: were always meant to be digital, but we aren't there yet.

794
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: We haven't built out the app. So I'm like, okay,

795
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to go live. So we close on Friday

796
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: the thirteenth, Friday the thirteenth, and then Friday the fourteenth

797
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: or no, Saturday the fourteenth. I went on Instagram and

798
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: I just did two live sessions, one or two live

799
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: sessions and use their platform. And I used to do

800
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: that when I did BANDI Air. I used to do

801
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: lives and then everyone went on the lives and I

802
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: was able to reach more people, and I was like,

803
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: we got to keep this momentum with my athletes. It

804
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: wasn't even about like the brand is about the community,

805
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: you know. It's about showing up for the people and

806
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: making a space for them to get their mind right

807
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: and go and execute on everything that they want to

808
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: build outside of here as well. So I'm like, I

809
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: just need to keep showing up because I feel like

810
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: people a We've worked so hard to get here, not

811
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: as the brand but as athletes and be I feel

812
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: like people need it more than ever to get their mind, right,

813
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: So we did that and then.

814
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 4: And then we loop. I looped in the.

815
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: Whole team, and I was like, Okay, let's let's build

816
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: out a whole program with all our coaches around it

817
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: and try to keep everyone working and active and and

818
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, tell people that they're not alone and that

819
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,240
Speaker 1: we can still reach each other even when we're meant

820
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: to you know, be apart. Yeah, and there's all these

821
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: platforms out there that we can use, so we did that.

822
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: Then I posted stuff like all like some of the

823
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: workouts that I say, from Instagram on YouTube and then

824
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: so that like I made like an on demand thing too,

825
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: and just like tried these different platforms and then one

826
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty days of free content like that. Later

827
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: we were able to pivot and build the app on

828
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: the back end, but also change our pop up, which

829
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: is now the permanent space into a filming.

830
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 4: Like studio, a production studio.

831
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Speaker 1: So I mean it really for me at least, I

832
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: know everyone has different experiences through it, but for me,

833
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: I think probably because of everything that I experienced leading

834
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: up to being a coach, I was just excited that

835
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: there was other ways to do it. So there was

836
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, like I said in the beginning, there was

837
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: no obstacle. You just learned to look at it differently

838
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: and you just keep moving forward.

839
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Speaker 2: When I ask you, what is your purpose? What is

840
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 2: your answer?

841
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: My purpose is just to share my insight and to

842
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: bring whoever I can touch to a different baseline so

843
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: that they don't necessarily have to go through everything I

844
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: went through to get there.

845
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 4: But then they can take it from this baseline further.

846
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: I feel like my purpose transcends me and self is

847
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: just kind of like sharing insight and then teaching people

848
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: what I know, and through teaching them we can open

849
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: up our minds two more.

850
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Speaker 3: Who inspires you to be great?

851
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of people that inspire me

852
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: and my mom and dad because of their unyielding and

853
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: basically at some point relentless trust and support in me,

854
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: my brother and sister, coaches that have come before me,

855
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: that I look up to, like Nick mil Terry, like

856
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: I said earlier, that he you know, is still on

857
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: the court coaching all day long and.

858
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 4: He's ninety years old. He's even on Instagram.

859
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: He does these like Nick nuggets now, which is like

860
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: I love it. He basically gives like a quote or

861
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: like a sentence a day his mindset and it's.

862
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: Like giving me content ideas here, so exciting to see

863
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: he's giving me content ideas too.

864
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: And he's ninety years old, so that's really exciting to see.

865
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 1: You know that you can, you can do what you love,

866
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: you know forever.

867
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Speaker 2: We we mentioned the phrase champions mindset earlier to you.

868
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: What does adopting a champion's mindset actually mean? And what

869
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 2: tips would you offer to someone who is in pursuit

870
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 2: of doing so.

871
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: I think a champion's mindset is someone who can see

872
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: that everything that ha happens is happening for you in

873
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: support of you. It's building you, it's sharpening you, it's

874
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: preparing you to actually live.

875
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,479
Speaker 4: The life you were meant to live.

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00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: And that means you know, at some points there's going

877
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 1: to be uncertainty, and as long as you're certain in

878
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: yourself and who you are and your mission, there's no

879
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: stopping you. And to that extent, I think a goal

880
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: is also you know, I think champion also thinks that

881
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: a goal is something that you aim at. It's not

882
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: always something you're going to achieve, Like my goal my

883
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: entire life until I switched to being a coach was

884
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: to be the number one tennis player. And even though

885
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: I didn't hit that target, that gave me a place

886
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: to aim at. And now you know, I'm doing something

887
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: that I didn't even imagine myself doing. If you would

888
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: have asked me what I wanted to be when I

889
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: was ten years old, you had my answer and it

890
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: wasn't this. You know, So just being open and uh,

891
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: and you know, staying in what you're doing, but letting

892
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: sometimes life guide you to where you're supposed to go.

893
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: For someone that has difficulty adopting kind of this fluid approach,

894
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 2: right like understanding or taking a step back and looking

895
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: at the bigger picture, I'm sure you you deal with

896
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: athletes that are kind of in this like limbo place

897
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: of limbo Sometimes.

898
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: What do you what do you say to them? How

899
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: do you adopt that mindset?

900
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: It's a process, I mean, it's it's if you've already

901
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: built certain mindset habits, uh, it's going to take a

902
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 1: little time to break it. So it starts with affirmations,

903
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: and and it starts with affirmations not only speaking it

904
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 1: out loud so that it can be yours, but also

905
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: applying action behind it. So take action, and in the action,

906
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: that's where you reset the affirmation.

907
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 3: And I think, like to your point, it's also setting smart.

908
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 2: Goals, right, Like if your goal to become the number

909
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: one tennis player, like that's a huge goal, but you

910
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 2: set smarter, smaller goals along the way prior to your

911
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: injury that we're going to help you to get to

912
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 2: where you want it to be.

913
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a process. I say this too.

914
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: It's like as an athlete, think about an athlete's trajectory,

915
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: Like you train multiple hours a day until you know,

916
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: most people are like eighteen nineteen twenty when they go

917
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 1: pro and they already have this fit like ten fifteen

918
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: years of experience coming into going pro and they're like

919
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: considered a rookie until they finally turn pro and then

920
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: they have to prove themselves again, you know. So there's

921
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: this whole journey and it's not something that happens overnight,

922
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: but you experience it and you accumulate things that you

923
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: want to take with you as you move forward, and

924
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: you don't have to take everything with you, or you

925
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: can look back and make sense of what's happened in

926
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: the past that used to stop you before. And I

927
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: think it's also rebranding things and not giving words and identity,

928
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: like identifying with something as like the.

929
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 4: The end all.

930
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: Like I think a lot of people don't identify with

931
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: being an athlete until you change what an athlete means,

932
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 1: Like an athlete is someone who is a professional mover.

933
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: And at this point, everyone, all of you are professional movers.

934
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: You know, we've been moving our whole lives. So to

935
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: be a pro athlete and a specific thing, then you

936
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: move in a specific way that builds new neuromuscular pathways

937
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: so that all that movement starts becoming second nature.

938
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 4: You know.

939
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: So if you think about it, we're all athletes and

940
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: now if you're training a certain way, now you're trying

941
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: to perfect that certain training or movement and then you

942
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: can excel in it.

943
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 2: I love what you said before about the idea that

944
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: you don't have to take everything with you, because I

945
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 2: think a lot of people struggle with that for sure.

946
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean people hold on to like things like I

947
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: didn't get picked in middle school for the dodgeball whatever.

948
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, let that go. That's not something you

949
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: need to take with you. What happened then doesn't define

950
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: what's going to happen now, you define what's going to

951
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: happen now with the mindset you go into.

952
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 3: Now what excites you right now?

953
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: We are going to open soon. So I'm excited about that.

954
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: It feels like we're coming out of this kind of

955
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: limbo phase and that there seems to be that light

956
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: that I know a lot of people have been talking

957
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: about at the end of the tunnel. I'm just I'm

958
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 1: excited to see where this goes.

959
00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: When someone comes to your Instagram page, they see a coach,

960
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 2: they see a guy that's got a lot of people

961
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: following him for fitness advice and so on and so

962
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: forth and doing some crazy stuff. When you look in

963
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 2: the mirror, what is it that you see looking back.

964
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: At you, I'm actually like, I'm pretty much that guy

965
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: that you see on on Instagram. I am I like

966
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: I even the things I say, it's all also personal.

967
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm someone who's you know, also growing and someone also

968
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: sometimes makes mistakes and learns from him. And I'm you know,

969
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: a dog dad, I'm an uncle, I'm a brother. You know,

970
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that I am, and I

971
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: bring everyone that I love into what I love to

972
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 1: do as well.

973
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: So all right, accin right now, you have an opportunity

974
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 2: to offer the act in a piece of advice when

975
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: he finds out that he is not going to be

976
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: able to go pro looking back on it, what do

977
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: you tell him?

978
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know.

979
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if I told myself something, then that

980
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: would it be different now, Like I like everything that

981
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 1: I had to grow through, so I don't think I

982
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: would tell myself anything, so that nothing changes.

983
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 3: I'm so appreciative for your time. I'm so appreciative to

984
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 3: know you Akin. How do the hurdlers follow along with you?

985
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 3: How do they keep up with Army? Give me all

986
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 3: the details?

987
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: Well, you gotta you're in the Army. Well you've always

988
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: been in the Army. So if you're not on the app,

989
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: you gotta go on Army dot com or download the

990
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: app in the app store and train with us. And

991
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: there's going to be many different ways to train with

992
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 1: us going forward. The live in person is opening safe

993
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 1: in that capacity. We also have Zoom globally, so wherever

994
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: you are in the world, you can join our Zoom lives,

995
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: and then we also have our digital platform with a

996
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: whole VOD library. I think we have over eight hundred

997
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: sessions there with many different programs. A reminder that it

998
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: is pretty tight. Like it is, it's hard, but you're

999
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: not meant to do it all at once. Just like

1000
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 1: my goal as wanting to be the number one tennis player,

1001
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to happen all at once. It's not

1002
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: like you decide that one day and the next day

1003
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: you're it. So don't be so hard on yourself. Show up,

1004
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: do what you can do what you can do your

1005
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: best is valid and that's gonna unlock something for tomorrow.

1006
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: Thank you for your time. I'm over at Emily a

1007
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: Body and at Hurdle Podcast. Another Hurdle conquered. Catch you

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00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: guys next time