WEBVTT - "Squish the Fish" with Gary Gulman | 1985 AFC Championship: Patriots vs. Dolphins 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.840 Today we have a very special guest, stand up legend 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:06.640 actor writer played at Boston College. 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:10.720 Tight End Folks, Massachusetts native. My name is Gary Goleman, Gary. 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:15.280 Goldman, Gary Gorman. He's a gentleman, Gary Golvin, Gary Goleman. 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.439 In studio, we're looking at the Squish the Fish game, 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:24.200 the nineteen eighty five AFC Championship between England Patriots and 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:26.800 Miami Dolphins. The AFC Championship. 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:28.960 Who ever would have believed in the early part of 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.160 the season that the Patriots would be here. 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:33.320 There's no way We're gonna be Miami, who were happy 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:34.240 to make the playoffs. 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:38.000 We had not won a game in Miami in eighteen years, 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:39.600 that's my entire lifetime. 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:41.839 There was a feeling of momentum and death. Say so, 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:42.839 I'm getting the chilse. 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:44.440 I'm getting the chills that you remember that it was 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:45.080 the Super Bowl. 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:51.160 Play Games with Names is a production of Ihearts Radio 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:55.760 Welcome to Games with Names, presented by Win Bett, and 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.920 on today's episode, we are talking the nineteen eighty five 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:06.360 AFC Championship between the new England Patriots and those Miami 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:13.240 Dolphins with Gary Goleman. Good episode Patriots before Tom Brady Talk. 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:18.240 The reason New england Ers are so funny, not just 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:22.039 the os, not just the os other reasons. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:23.160 It's because they're miserable. 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.560 They're happily miserable, Kyler. They they are happily miserable. Just 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.160 like I am. 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Writer Avid Hooper played at 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:28.000 Boston College, tight End Folks, tight End Folks, Massachusetts native 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:32.920 and born on third base is on Max right now. 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.840 His memoir Misfits Growing Up Awkward in the Eighties is out. 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:41.279 Also check it out. Welcome to Games and Names, Gary, 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:42.000 Thanks for having me. 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.359 I'm honored. I've been a fan of yours for a 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.359 long time. I've been We were talking about this earlier 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:52.080 in awe of your transition from kenn State University quarterback 0:04:52.560 --> 0:05:00.159 to a renowned receiver and a legendary man, because I'm 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.400 I'm a pebd Massachusetts City so and a huge Patriots 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.040 fan from it, and I can't wait to get into 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.520 this from the time I was six or seven years 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.640 old and the embarrassment of riches that you and your 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:14.240 teammates brought to us that New England fans, as you know, 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:18.640 will never appreciate because they're so spoiled. But we grew 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.440 up with just We were happy to make the playoffs 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.680 and it wasn't considered a failure if we didn't blow 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:26.760 out the opposing team in the Super Bowl. 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:30.599 Yeah, now, you know, we had an unbelievable run. But 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.880 with what you just said there, you started out as 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:38.360 a fan at six years old, right, And I came 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.960 to Boston in two thousand and nine. Patriots had three 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:44.800 Super Bowls on their belt. Yeah, Celtics just won a championship, 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.080 the Bruins were fighting. The Red Sox just did the 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.719 whole Crazy Kittens Boodle thing in two thousand and three. 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:51.480 So the city was vibrant. 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:55.640 Was sport. It was like sports. There's no fall, winter, spring. 0:05:55.720 --> 0:06:00.200 It's baseball season, football season, hockey season, or baseball season. Now, 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:03.040 in those tiers when I got there, we were kind of, 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:04.919 you know, we were flirting with the top of the 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.320 city just because we were all so good and we 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.360 had Tom Brady. Yes, in whatever year that was when 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:13.640 you were six years old, we're going to be Patriots. 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.120 In that era, I think they had to have been 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.800 four because there's a big Socks town, big Celtics town, 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.359 and then the cult following into the Bruins is always 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:21.920 the Bruins. 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.600 They were four, but because they were the only thing 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.080 on on Sunday if they sold out, That's what I 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:28.800 don't know if you ever knew about this, but if 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.839 the Patriots didn't sell out, they would black out the 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.240 game on television to sell tickets. That's where the NFL 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.440 was at the time. So we would root because we 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.160 couldn't afford to go to Foxborough and pay the pocket 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:41.840 and go to the game. So we would pray that 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.240 the people with money would go to the games so 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:46.120 that we could watch it instead of listening to it, 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:47.680 and that we would listen to it on the radio, 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:51.920 which is not the same. And so in nineteen seventy six, 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:56.120 I think it was whenever I started watching football, all 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.440 anybody wanted to talk about was how the year before 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.320 we almost beat the Raiders, but we got we got 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:04.760 robbed and Stabler had gotten away with something. So that's 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:06.480 what I grew up in, and that that we had. Well, 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:09.560 you have to understand about Boston fans is that for 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:12.880 most of our lives, other than the Celtics, we were 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.960 living this thing where we were going to be heartbroken. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.320 It was just a matter of how it was almost 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.560 It was very similar to growing up Jewish. Not our 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:25.520 history was that something horrible was gonna happen, just not 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:29.000 sure when and what it'll be Yeah, and that was 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.320 the Yeah, that was the thing with the Red Sox 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.000 and the Patriots that they would break your heart and 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.240 you were you were taught at a very early age 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.920 it don't go all in because they's it's Charlie Brown 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.520 trying to kick the football. And then by the time 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:47.320 you got there, everybody was so used to winning that 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.160 it became I don't know, I hope you didn't listen 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.880 to talk radio, but the most miserable Monday morning people, 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:56.800 even if the Patriots would win, they didn't win by enough, 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.760 and and they they had weakness is that they were 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.240 going to talk about for hours on Monday man. And 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.240 and so I I, at least over the years, have 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.920 been so grateful for what the teams have brought me. 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.640 But I think a lot of the newcomers got spoiled. Oh. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.360 I mean it's a it's it's it's a different beast 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:18.160 now in that. I mean, that's title town, yes, and 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.960 that's been built over thirty years and you've been a 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:23.360 part of that town before it was title town. 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.200 Yeah. I mean you still had the Celtics that had 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:26.280 the eight championships. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:27.360 Yeah, and we had. 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:30.800 Doug Flutie at Boston College who kept the hearts at 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.120 about the time we're going to talk about today about 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:34.319 the Miami Patriots game. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.240 But we we rallied around that. 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:39.240 Boston College football team because they were they were winning 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.000 in a way that the Red Sox and the and 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.439 the the Patriots hadn't hadn't down. They went out and 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.520 won a national championship that year, right, they won the 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.240 Cotton Bowl. The Cotton they won the Cotton Bowl and 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:53.960 the Miracle Miami Ericle Miami and and then so they 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.240 were ranked third in the in the country, which was 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:59.200 the one of the highest rankings in my lifetime. I 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.080 think when they had Mattie Ice, I think they were 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:04.480 ranked third at one point second. 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:05.360 I was at that game. 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.160 Really yeah, when matt Ryan lost his heisman. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:14.400 By the way, that's Kyler and his prominent beard. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.640 Earlier, whenever Virginia Tech talk comes up, I have to 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:19.120 chime in, so continued. 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:21.400 No, I got it, I got it, I understand. And 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:25.160 so yeah, that that was that was my history with 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.640 the sports and and yeah. 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:31.319 So let's let's get into it today. We're looking at 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:35.800 the Squish the Fish game, the nineteen eighty five AFC 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:43.400 championship between the New England Patriots and the seventies Miami Dolphins. 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:47.840 Dan Marino Miami Dolphins. I know, I meem that only 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:53.440 beat the eighty five Bears. Yeah that year, Yeah, Miami Dolphins. Yeah. 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:54.520 So why we picked this game? 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.560 Gary, Well, I think I live in the past to 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:01.240 the greatest tent and uh, if you see my book, 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:06.439 you'll you'll be confused, but also sort of amazed by 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:09.240 my memory of my childhood, Like going back to my 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:11.760 first day of kindergarten. I can remember the different lunch 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.360 boxes that were used and the kids and things that 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:18.679 were said. So the games as big as the eighty 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.719 five and I think it took place in January of 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.559 nineteen eighty six. I think it was the eighty five 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:27.679 eighty six seasons. So the Patriots had had been promising 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:31.560 every year they had they had good players. And that's 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:33.440 the thing that I think a lot of people miss 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.480 out on. If you if you have a winning team, 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:37.560 is that you're in love with a team. But when 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.080 you have a losing team, over the years, you fall 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.240 in love with certain players and you and it's it's 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:47.080 a very it's a very nice community. And I think 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.760 the players appreciate that they're they're expected to do their 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.840 best and that they're there for a long time and 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.920 you love them. And so we were. We were in 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:58.640 love with guys who had been on that team. There 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.680 was one guy, Julius Adams, who had been on the team. 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:04.520 It felt like my entire life. And and then Anthony 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:10.960 Collins and and Andre Tippitt jew Yes, yes, I wish 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.840 he had gone all I know. I wish he had 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.240 gone all the way into the Hasidism because I think 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:16.920 that would be a great look on him. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:17.800 He is a black belt. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.080 And we man did we love Tippett because if you 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.280 don't have a whole team of superstars, you cling to 0:11:23.320 --> 0:11:27.480 these superstars like Andre Tippett who just was doing what 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.880 he did on that team. And Steve Nelson was a 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.720 very special player who had been there his entire career. 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:36.960 So we just we just loved these guys. And who's 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:37.920 the other quarterback? 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:40.960 Was the quarterback in this game, and I think he 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:45.800 had been a Heisman like finalist at I think Illinois. 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:49.240 But he was a wonderful player and very charismatic. And 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.080 Grogan had been with us his entire career and we 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.800 adored him and he was very talented, but they could 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:57.439 just never get over the hump and they had bad breaks. 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.840 And so when they were making this run, they beat 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:03.640 the Raiders, which was like this redemption because the Raiders 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.920 had broken in our hearts and we hated the We 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.360 hated the Raiders like we hated the Yankees. The Raiders. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:12.079 The Raiders were a good football They were amazing, Yes 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:12.800 they were. 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:16.520 They were amazing, and and it might have been a 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:20.959 team with like Alzado and Matuzak. Maybe I'm not sure 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.600 who the Raiders personnel was that year, but I do 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:28.280 remember that the the the Miami Dolphins were a rival, 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.040 sort of like the Yankees, but also the Raiders were 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:35.120 everybody was the Yankees to us because we were constantly 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.920 being upset by these teams, and we had not won 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.600 a game in Miami in eighteen years. That's that's my 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:45.439 entire lifetime. I had never seen them beat Miami in 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:48.439 because I was fifteen when this when this whole thing 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.360 happened and the other thing. 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:51.760 And I don't know if you felt. 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.120 This way because you were playing and probably distracted by 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:57.920 other things, but it was like an extra holiday. If 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:02.960 the Patriots were were competitive back then, like everybody in 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.600 the community would get so excited. There were parties and 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.320 so it was like it was like another Christmas that 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:09.240 year especially. 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:10.679 And here's the other thing. 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.319 We were kind of we were kind of like, all right, 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:16.439 our Super Bowl was beating the Raiders. There's no way 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.960 we're going to beat Miami. And then my word, and 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:21.960 then and the only thing with the Squish the Fish 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:26.800 is that there are New Englanders who are still confused 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:32.920 by the dolphin not being a fish technically a mammal. 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.760 And I think we could have a very interesting argument 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.920 with a lot of older New England as to whether 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.600 Squished the Fish was was an accurate portrayals of the 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:45.400 of the dolphins taxonomy. 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:50.680 I mean, you tell me a Charlie from Summerville. Charlie 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.520 and the cat's in. 0:13:53.440 --> 0:14:00.280 The car in Somerville knows that the dolphins have been like, Nah, 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.240 does it swim in the ocean? 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:03.120 A fish? 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.160 It's a fish. It's a fish. Does it go good 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:11.040 with rice and soy sauce? It's a fish, kid, it's 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.040 a don't get the spotting up. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:16.880 So we have a segment. We'll get back into the game. Okay, 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:19.440 but we have a segment we go back into time. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:20.880 January twelfth. 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:23.280 I'm very good at this in eineteen eighty six, of course, 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.680 because it's a stighty five season, but it's the playoffs, 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.920 so that means it's January. And the number one movie 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:30.240 was Out of Africa. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:30.840 Do you ever see it? 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:31.200 Never? 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.520 Never saw it because it seemed too spot for me 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:35.240 at the time. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.640 I was like, this is a Nazi Fazi movie and it's. 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:42.960 Probably playing in Lexington and probably playing in Richie Rich Lexington. 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:43.760 I don't know. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:48.040 I don't know where that is. Lexington is a very 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:52.440 affluent community and in the movie The Fighter, they go 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:55.200 to a movie in Lexington because he doesn't want anybody 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.120 from Lowell to see him. And his girlfriend says, why 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.560 we going to Richie Rich Lexington to see a movie? 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.080 And it was they were seeing Labelly pac which was 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.280 a French subtitle movie. Anyhow, I'm giving too much information. 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.720 Out of Africa I never saw because at fifteen I 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:13.040 only saw movies that had like Ferris Bueller or Michael J. 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:16.480 Fox. And at the Rocky four comes out in a 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.520 couple of months in the Greatest, you know, the greatest 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:23.920 you know, I know it's not the it Fazi Rocky. Yeah, 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:28.280 but I was a kid watched, Yeah, eighties, it's so watchable. 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.000 But but here's the thing I think we're coming up on, 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.680 like the well maybe it'll be fifty years and twenty 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:38.560 twenty six of the most watched title fight of all 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:43.360 time Creed versus Balboa one. Yeah, I mean that that 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.160 was a great movie. Nobody gave Balboa a chance ever, 0:15:46.280 --> 0:15:48.480 and he took him. He took him fifteen rounds. He 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:50.800 was a mob enforcer. 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:52.280 I mean, was. 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:57.240 A leg breaker for a second rate loan shot. Rock 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:00.520 speed is what we need. 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:04.440 Rock. What's your favorite Rocky movie? Rocky one, Rocky one. 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:06.800 Yeah, I think, I mean I've definitely seen it over 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:11.040 one hundred times, and I just I think every performance 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:14.040 and every line in it is so good. Yeah yeah, 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.960 I like that. I I but Rocky five, I mean 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.080 they're also Rocky five was the worst one. But I 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.120 said that's the worst. I loved it too, Yeah, the 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.120 Tony Morrison right, yeah yeah. 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.880 But I was also younger, you know, like when you're a. 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.080 Kid, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're like you're not thinking 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:29.960 about Yeah. 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.720 So I remember first seeing Rocky Flourd. 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:37.640 It was like America versus Russia Underdog, Like I literally 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.680 that's literally inspired my my playoff Beard. 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:43.720 Wow. It was when Rocky went to and he didn't 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.040 want any distraction and he just had the Russian in 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:46.480 the mirror. 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.960 He just wanted to drag large, That's all he wanted. 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:51.960 So that was kind of like where I started. 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:53.880 That is awesome, man. 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.680 And was there a movie that you would watch repeatedly 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.880 during a season to psych yourself up or a. 0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:02.920 Or anything like that. There was in college? Okay, in 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:04.919 college I would watch Rudy Wow. 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:05.840 Yeah. 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:08.240 But but here's my issue with Rudy. 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.080 I always felt so sorry for the walk Ons that 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.120 I was like, why are you getting your at least 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:16.320 we're on scholarship. 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.639 Yeah, you know, my dad made me come here. Yeah, 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:21.600 at least we're getting a scholarship. 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:23.680 You are doing this out of love of this game 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.280 that is kicking your ass every day. I mean I 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.800 admire Yeah, I admire it, but I I I often 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:30.840 felt sorry for them. 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:35.200 Yeah, it was for me. I just I would get 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.960 so fired. I don't know why. I was a great 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.560 I love the soundtrack, Yes, that's awesome, and I love 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:47.000 I love Favreau in it, yes yeah yeah, And then 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:50.560 I I you know, the the grind part of him 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:52.520 now for the team. 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:53.160 I don't know why. 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:55.600 No, it's incredibly it's incredibly inspiring. 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:56.719 I got it. 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:58.960 I get it completely. It comes out that the guy 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:03.440 didn't wasn't anything like that. I talked to Montana over read. 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:04.160 A part of it. 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:08.080 It's like this Rudy movies, like Rudy Rocket, that's slap 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.320 dig I'm like, oh that's ah. 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:14.000 That's hilarious. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I've never heard a 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:15.720 good story about the actual Rudi. 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:16.680 Yeah. 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:20.199 That. Yeah, it was a great movie. Hollywood great, oh, 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.240 Hollywood Disney right, yeah. 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:27.920 Yeah. The number one song was That's What Friends Are? Yeah. 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.040 That was a very that was a very lovely Diane 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:31.720 and Friends. 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:35.280 Yeah. One of her friends was Elton John, Elton John, 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:39.440 John Warwick, Elton John TV Wan TV wonder. That was so. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.199 That was kind of it was kind of like the 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.399 we are the World ye, I think for for the 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:46.280 HIV AIDS. I think maybe was this, but it was uh, 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:47.720 we are the World's for AIDS. 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:51.240 No, no, no, that was for for uh famine in in 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:55.800 Africa in nineteen eighty four. And then this I think 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:59.520 raised awareness and money for HIV AIDS research. 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:04.040 That's good. Yeah, you know that, and that's I see that. 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:06.840 That shows are you know you're a generation before me. 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:08.000 I'm an old man. 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.720 It's a very nice way to say I'm an old 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.960 but like for me, no, it is a generation before 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.800 be the thing like ours would be like a TikTok. 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.240 Trend or nine to eleven right, well, yeah, nine to eleven, 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:24.280 Well that that would be like our JF like my challengation, 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.160 whereas mine was John Lennon's John assassination. 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.080 Yes, or like the challenge. I don't remember the challenge. 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.040 I kind of was a challenge. I was in ninth grade. 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.360 I think, Yeah, that was that was hard. 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:36.760 You don't remember the challenge? The challenger happened before you 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:38.720 were born. Oh what's the what's the other one that 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:42.560 had the teachers that was challenging? Think in Colombia, Colombia, 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:43.679 I think Columbia. 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:45.200 Yeah, wasn't there another one? 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:45.680 I don't. 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:49.119 I think I've lost track of my shuttles. This is 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:51.280 this is there one close by? This is by far 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:53.160 our darkest. Let's go back segment. 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:56.280 Yeah, Chernobyl meltdown my word. Well, they knew they were 0:19:56.280 --> 0:20:00.800 bringing on a depressive, so they covered the some dark 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.200 times in the in the eighties. You know, karate Kid 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:07.880 also came out during this work off. Edelman was born 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:10.679 May twenty second, eighty six. You're a Taurus like my 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:15.840 dad philgo Gemen. Oh, you're on the cosp Gemini gem 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:18.480 two sided, guy, You're two sided. But but here the 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:20.840 here's the thing, the side I'm getting today. Isn't it 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:24.080 incredibly humble? Down to earth young man? You were raised 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:26.120 well and had good coaches. Is that is that where 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.760 you're gonna rely on You're a kind person? Tight ship. 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:31.960 He's on the right level of microdosing right now. 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.160 He hit it. He's got it today. 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:41.960 Kyler, Well they started too. Oh wow, yeah, I remember that. 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:44.040 I used to love You're getting a car. You're getting 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.800 a car. Oh my gosh, it was. It was incredible. 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:50.240 She was in the sports World nineteen eighty five eighty six. 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:54.040 Oklahoma beats Joey Paz, Penn State and Orange Bowl for 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:54.879 the national title. 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:55.880 Are you college football guy? 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:56.240 Yes? 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.440 And so clearly Boston College is your spot. I let yeah, 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:02.400 I love boss in college. But I also remember watching 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:05.119 that game and every year New Year's Day was a 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:08.000 really special time to watch great to watch great college 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:11.159 football and the thing is is that I don't follow 0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:13.240 the Heisman like I used to. But I can remember 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:16.600 Bo Jackson winning the winning the Heisman, and then I think, 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.760 I want to say, Barry Sanders wanted a year or 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:22.640 two later or something like that at at Oklahoma State. 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:26.440 But yeah, doc on him. It's so good, right, Yeah, 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:28.920 his dad, it's their best running back of all time. 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:34.719 Jim Brown, me and they you, it's so funny. I 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:36.160 just love I love Barry. 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:38.560 I could watch highlights him and it's like he was 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:40.800 our Gail Sayers right one hundred, I mean. 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:45.120 Every kid and just to see talk about humble and yeah, 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:47.840 a man that like took it to a whole other level. 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:49.199 I don't even want to be on the field for 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:51.800 that two thousand yarder because I don't want the record. 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:54.800 Right, And and like I was saying, fans in Detroit, 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:58.160 I mean they they they've raised him to the level 0:21:58.200 --> 0:22:00.440 of a deity. I mean, they love him so much 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:02.720 because that he was all they had for so long. Yeah, 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:05.480 and he didn't switch teams. I mean, he's really a 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:06.359 commendable guy. 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:08.679 He really is. I mean, and you can see his 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:12.400 relationship with his sons from that dock. He's just he's 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:12.880 a good man. 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:13.480 His dad was. 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:16.040 It was a nut, but he was doing something right. Yeah, 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:18.040 you know, you know you look at that. 0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:21.800 Yeah, Marcus Allen was the NFL m VP because that 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:22.800 that was Raiders Allen. 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:26.440 Right, yeah, Raiders Allen. Yeah, high knees. Yeah, he was 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:29.760 a stud. I remember a lot on the T. Yeah, 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:30.840 he played for a long time. 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:33.760 Hes a winner two, Yeah he was Yeah at usc 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:37.040 USC Yeah, they have the most, right with six or not. 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:40.919 We just had linerd On he was dropping right Liner 0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:44.280 Liner the lefty. Yeah with Reggie Bush. 0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:48.440 Oklahoma's got seven Oklahoma, Wow, Kyler. 0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:51.080 In Ohio. 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:55.080 In usc all right, Alo, they all have a lot. 0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:56.720 They're all very good. 0:22:57.000 --> 0:22:59.720 The Celtics lose four two to the Lakers in the 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:02.080 eighty four finals. You remember this, I do. 0:23:02.080 --> 0:23:05.480 Remember that because we won the first game by thirty 0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:09.240 four points, I think, so it was they were already 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.240 burying the Lakers and they were gonna have to break 0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:16.560 up the team. And then the Lakers won in six games, 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:19.640 which it was very depressing. But the Celtics came back 0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.560 so strong in eighty six and put on the floor 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:24.159 one of the greatest teams of all time. And I 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.920 put them against up there with the with the last 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:29.760 Dance Bowls and some of the Warriors teams. I mean 0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:32.560 they were, but the Lakers were incredible back then. And 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:35.280 then the other thing that was very sad was was 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:38.440 that the Bias then bias thing. So we won the 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:42.480 NBA Championship, but then we had the draft. Took him 0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:47.440 second behind Brad Dougherty from UNC and he played at Maryland, 0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:49.560 and I remember thinking, this guy is just as good 0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:53.399 as and I'm not a person who exaggerates or hyperbole. 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:55.959 I was like, this guy is as strong athletically as 0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:58.960 as Michael Jordan. Will you have the drive? Who knows? 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:01.240 But then we found out. I remember my friend Mike 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:03.760 Murphy called me up. He said, Gary, did you hear 0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:06.000 that Len Bias side? And I said, that's not funny? 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:07.880 How was it? How was that a funny joke? 0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:10.480 And so I think, now that I think about it, 0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:13.720 that's probably my JFK moment is finding out that Len 0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:16.320 Bias died from CNN, which was like this brand new 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:20.080 news network at the time. And then yeah, and then 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:24.200 the fall, so the so the Patriots losing the Super Bowl, 0:24:24.560 --> 0:24:26.760 and then the Fall the Red Sox lost to the 0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:31.359 Mets and Bill Buckner's era. That was just like I 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:36.320 was literally crying, Like who cries over a ballgame? But 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:39.600 I cried that the Red Sox lost it. It felt 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:41.080 like like a death. 0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.120 I cried when the goddamn rally monkey came and beat 0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:48.760 my Giants. Really yeah, like three to two, right the. 0:24:50.359 --> 0:24:53.280 Right? Yeah, Oh my gosh, Oh I got it. Yeah, 0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:57.520 I mean, yeah, that's crazy. How fandom really in community? 0:24:57.800 --> 0:25:00.880 Oh yeah, you know the supporters as sports, I mean, 0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:05.159 it was much more prevalent in our days. Sure, I 0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:09.280 mean it's changed just because information and people have a 0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:11.919 lot of different you know, interest these days. 0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:14.320 Sometimes they're and you can have different interests these days. 0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:15.760 He used to be just sports, No. 0:25:15.960 --> 0:25:20.720 But sometimes they're rooting for things such as the gambling outcomes, 0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:24.160 but also how their fantasy teams been doing, which which 0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:27.600 I played one year and the guys were so cutthroat 0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:30.120 that I vowed never to do it again. And yeah, 0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:32.560 you know, I played with Kyler. We have a we 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:34.840 have a Coast Productions fun team. 0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:37.640 And how you doing, Jeels, I'm middle of the pack. 0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:39.560 I'm six and six right now. I need to do 0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:41.640 a couple of trades. But I mean I'll go on 0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:45.280 and just putting content. I'll go on thinking I'm doing 0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:47.920 something smart, watching on a guy that you know might 0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:51.240 have a oh yeah game coming up. Yeah, like thirty 0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.439 guys got them waved already. They must have been on. 0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.240 Like these guys are putting serious hours into this thing. 0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:58.040 Oh yeah, yeah, that was the thing that they were 0:25:58.040 --> 0:26:00.840 putting way more hours. I got a I gotta go 0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:04.760 to the grocery. I have a life, goddamn it. Yeah, 0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:08.040 I mean, Kyler, you giggle, you're picking up all those 0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:10.440 good little running backs. 0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:12.440 Should I pull up the stands? No? 0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:20.120 Leave it there there. Well, let's set to the stage 0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:22.080 for the Miami Dolphins. Okay. 0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:25.400 So the nineteen eighty five Miami Dolphins, uh led by 0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.679 Hall of famers Don Shula Dan Marino, went to the 0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:29.719 Super Bowl year before right, yep again and lost to 0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:32.359 the feig nine Ers and then also Hall of famer 0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:36.280 Dwight Stevenson Center get some o line love. They were 0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:37.840 coming off a season in Super Bowl, right, they lost 0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:40.000 the forty nine ers. That was the year Dan Marino 0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:43.520 threw for forty eight touchdowns, so they were filing themselves. 0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:46.840 Dan Marino held out in training camp this year more money, 0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:48.840 and so the Dolphins had a bit of a slow 0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:53.240 start and then they kind of picked it up late 0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:53.760 in the season. 0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:54.480 They were out. 0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:58.400 They had seven straight wins, including a all time matchup 0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:01.439 against the eventual Super bowlchampions, the eighty five Bears on 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:03.959 a Monday night game, which at the time was considered 0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.040 one of the greatest and most watched Monday night football 0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:07.080 games of all time. 0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:10.440 Surpassed by that Rams Chiefs Ones A couple. 0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:16.399 Of years ago. Everyone was like, I think, yes, that 0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:17.880 was some game. That was a crazy game. 0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.320 Yeah, we played them on Sunday Night Football, like a 0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:23.800 couple of weeks later, I think, or some primetime game. 0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:25.560 It was forty to forty three. 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:27.760 It was yeah, no, they put up I mean, but 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:31.240 the Miami Dolphins at that time were a modern offense 0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.840 like what we see now, throwing so much and and 0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:38.040 whereas the Patriots were grinding it out and and that, Yeah, 0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:40.760 that was the matchup in in that playoff game. This 0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:45.440 was like the era. But mock Mock Dupa and Mock 0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:49.159 Clayton would just they would make circus catches. And another 0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:51.320 game that I remember from my childhood. I wonder if 0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:54.560 you've ever seen highlights of this was the Chargers versus 0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:59.919 the Dolphins. It was Fouts, yes, Dan Fouts versus Dan Marino, 0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:04.080 and it was either overtime or last second play, and 0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:06.000 it was It was considered one of the one of 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.200 the great games of all time. Like the final score 0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:12.560 was in the forties but maybe either a touchdown or 0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:16.040 field goal separating, and it was just it was really 0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:19.520 inspiring these guys. I remember Kellen Winslow being carried off 0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.280 the field with two guys. Like remember that old thing 0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.600 where there was no stretcher. You would just have your 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.000 teammates kind of you would put your arms around them 0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.200 and they would kind of hobble you off the field. 0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:31.760 The guys had jobs in the off season too. 0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:33.760 It was like, yeah, it was like the Civil War 0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:35.480 where they would just put a splende and you would 0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.200 bite down on a stick while they while they chopped 0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:38.960 off your foot. 0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:41.360 Well, they'd obviously give you a shot of you know, 0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:42.960 gramozel cough medicine. 0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.960 That was your your number totally. They would get you 0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.280 drunk first and then yeah and then amputatee and then 0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:53.600 they would throw in some dirty ass alcohol into the yes, yes, 0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:55.520 and then you would go back out there with missing, 0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:57.600 missing a foot and an elbow. 0:28:57.920 --> 0:29:01.640 So that game was called the in Miami Chargers one 0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.960 forty one to thirty eight place January second, nineteen eighty 0:29:04.960 --> 0:29:07.960 two in the Orange Bowl, which our game is in. Also, 0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.480 it's a fun fact Dwite Stevenson was also in that 0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:11.000 team too. 0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:14.520 Wow, thank you, Kyla. You're a great producer here. 0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:16.400 This is you're missing Jack. 0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:17.680 You're missing Jack? Oh? 0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:18.960 Really yeah, I'm filling in. 0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:20.080 Oh killing in. 0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:24.040 Well we got to look at four three. Yeah, that's 0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:27.000 very nice that Kyler gave a shout out to Jack. Well, 0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:31.600 what's what's your thoughts on the city of Miami. It's it's, uh, 0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:34.560 it's not my speed. I'm a I'm a I'm a 0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:36.920 stay at home guy, and so I don't really like 0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:40.680 to stay out late in the party scene. But I 0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:45.800 recognize that, I recognize the draw in terms of the 0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:49.440 the uh quality of the personnel in the in the 0:29:49.440 --> 0:29:51.160 clubs and the and. 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:56.080 The bars and and quality. Yeah, there's some high quality there. 0:29:56.080 --> 0:30:00.120 And I understand that it's a very lucrative place to 0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:04.120 live for a professional athlete because you don't have to 0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:09.040 pay the state taxes. But I really I like the 0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.520 Northeastern cities to live in, although I lived in Los 0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:13.880 Angeles for six years and I loved it. Yeah, really 0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:17.840 really good people. They say everybody's yeah, they got everybody's phony. 0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.000 But if you find your group, you're finding some of 0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.200 the best of wherever they came from. 0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:26.960 So yeah, I believe that, yes, but I love That's 0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:29.480 what people always ask me, the difference between like East 0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:33.280 Coast in LA West Coast. I'm from the Bay Area, 0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:37.400 so it's completely different up there, but it's it's Yeah, 0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:39.240 people on the East Coast are meaner. 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:41.360 Yeah, but you know what you're getting right, Yeah, So 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.760 that exactly not a lot of bullshit. Yeah, there's no agenda. 0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:47.400 Yeah, no one wants to say hi because it's fucking 0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:48.960 three degrees outside. 0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:51.680 You got to shovel your goddamn car. They're more real. 0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:53.680 But you know what I'm getting off of you. I 0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.720 and I only spent a small amount of time with him, 0:30:56.720 --> 0:30:58.800 but he was very similar to you. When he's a 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.360 Bay guy, I shouldn't say he's a big guy. He's 0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:05.320 a California lifelong person, lived in LA but Bill Walton 0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:08.080 from the UCLA and I guess grew up in San Diego. 0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.400 But then then Bill Walton. 0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:13.680 And he just, I mean, has lived one of the 0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:18.360 all time legendary lives in terms of his the time 0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.239 of his existence and the people he intersected with. And 0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.440 he's just really like I remember telling him what an 0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.880 inspiration he was, and he was like, I had great 0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:29.280 coaches and great family and it sounds like you you 0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.320 always come off so humble, but you've lived one of 0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:35.920 the great lives so well. I mean, it's really nice. 0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:39.040 It's refreshing. I appreciate that. But I'm just telling you, 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:40.800 you know, that's I believe that. 0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:44.600 Yeah, And no one gets to anywhere by themselves, right, 0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:47.400 and there's always a support system of something or a 0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:51.320 group or a friend, a mentor coach. But it's nice 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:52.560 for people to hear that. 0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:54.240 Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that. 0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:56.440 No, I mean, it's amazing. You brought up Bill Walton 0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.000 because I just mentioned Jack, who normally does this. He 0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:01.920 sets up these rundowns and he had Bill Walton in 0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:06.040 the sports and really because Bill Walton signed with the Celtics. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:07.280 And I was like, I'm going to cut it. I 0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:09.440 don't know about Bill Walton. We wanted to talk about it. 0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:11.600 I love watching Bill Walton that like when it was 0:32:12.520 --> 0:32:15.600 concerts and ship. Yeah, he's always talking about Grateful Dead. Yeah. 0:32:15.680 --> 0:32:18.120 So you're you're in Boston, so you're getting a Pack 0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:21.200 ten game at like ten o'clock and you got Bill 0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.480 Walton talking about LSD and yeah about you know, the 0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:25.200 Packed twelve. 0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.800 Yes, it's more than color commentary. It's colorful. I honestly 0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:30.080 watched just for me. 0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.600 Too, me too. It's kind of like the the show 0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.520 on T n T was Shack Yes, Carl, Yeah, I 0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:38.040 don't even watch basketball. I know, I watched the halftime. 0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:41.760 It's this weird sitcom. I love it. Yeah, I love it. 0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:45.840 Charles Barkley is is the funniest athlete I have I've 0:32:45.880 --> 0:32:47.760 ever seen. He's a great dude too. 0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:51.680 Oh really he's that's so nice to hear. That's really great. 0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:54.960 I've heard that. I've heard he's very he's very generous 0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:58.280 and the earth. Yeah, he's so funny. 0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:00.800 My word. He doesn't mean to be always funny though, 0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:02.320 Oh really, no, not always. 0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:06.960 Oh I just love him. What about these Pats? 0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:09.880 Okay, so the nineteen eighty five Patriots, they're kind of identity. 0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:12.520 There was a tough team. They were coached by Raymond Berry, 0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:14.880 which a fun fact about him is he was one 0:33:14.880 --> 0:33:17.440 of John Uniteds's favorite receivers back. He was playing Tom 0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:20.120 Cult legend and was a teammate with Don Shula for 0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:20.920 two years in Baltimore. 0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.000 As wow, I didn't that makes sense. 0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.000 So this is a great defense led by Hall of 0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:28.600 Fame and notable jew Andre Tippet. As we mentioned, they 0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:30.480 gave up only eighteen point one points per game and 0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:33.840 had twenty three interceptions. They were both a top ten 0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.440 defense and a both top ten offense as well. There 0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.080 was a bit of a quarterback controversy we talked about 0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:40.720 with Steve Grogan and Tony Eason. 0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.160 You can see that they're a tough football team when 0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:48.400 you're starting quarterbacks. Got under sixty percent completion percentage in 0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:51.160 eleven touchdowns in seventeen Yeah. 0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:55.920 Interceptions, yeah, I mean, but look at Craig James was 0:33:56.160 --> 0:34:01.480 oddly some you Yeah, and he was he was an carrier. Yeah, 0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:05.760 and then he became a commentator for the college football 0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:07.600 and on ESPN for a long time and he was 0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:11.040 really yeah, really good. And Stanley Morgan, oh my gosh, 0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:14.840 he was. Yeah, you would have loved him. He was 0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.640 the records Yeah, and and for a team that didn't 0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:20.920 throw very much, but if they threw, they were they 0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:24.480 were throwing him. We had some really nice Sadly, we 0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:28.120 lost a tight end named Russ Francis from that era 0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.600 who played for the Niners as well. But he was 0:34:30.880 --> 0:34:34.200 he was a man, a wonderful tight end back when 0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:35.160 they used to block a lot. 0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:37.960 Yeah. Yeah, you know, I do Fox with with Rob 0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:41.759 Gronk and we'll sit and talk and I always pick 0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.040 his brain whenever because we'll watch all the games together 0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:46.160 and I have all the TVs. Yeah, sitting there, you 0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:50.080 got Howie Long. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sitting there and 0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:52.080 I'm like, Yo, gron what do you think about this kid? 0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:56.120 He's more of an H back. Go Gronk, what do 0:34:56.160 --> 0:34:58.479 you think about this guy? He's more of an H back. 0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:02.160 He really things that the true tight end position, there's 0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.799 only like two to five, two to three that are 0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.640 a traditional tight end that could sit up on the 0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:11.000 end of the line of scrimmage block of nine technique. Right, wow, 0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:12.640 you know what I mean. There's not many guys that 0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:14.640 do that. Yeah, a lot of these guys. It's become 0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:18.560 a pass catching position. Oh, it's an extra wide receiver. Yeah, 0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.920 you know what I mean. You get big total livers 0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:23.799 and then you're playing the personnel group game, and now 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:25.960 they don't have to block the ends anymore. They can 0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:28.879 get up on you know, a smaller backer. Oh yeah, game, 0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:30.000 it's completely changed. 0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:33.080 Yeah. Yeah, it's so much faster it is. I can't 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.560 get over it sometimes, Gary, How was how was your 0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:38.279 blocking when you put it awful? My blocking was My 0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:42.600 blocking was awful. My technique was was awful. I relied 0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:44.600 on being able to jump very high and I had 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:47.720 good hands, but my my blocking, I could never do it. 0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:49.560 They used to call it a reach block. Yeah, and 0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:51.560 that and that yeah, and that's a really that's a 0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:53.680 really hard block. And also when I was in high school, 0:35:53.760 --> 0:35:55.640 they didn't want you to use your hands. They wanted 0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:59.480 you to block with your shoulder, so that yes, the flippers. Yeah, 0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:02.440 so you would get called for a holy call. And 0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:04.680 then when I got to college that you were allowed 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:06.239 to use your hands and get in there, and it 0:36:06.280 --> 0:36:09.719 was it was a very difficult adjustment. And then the 0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.279 other thing going from a high school to college was 0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:16.040 that you you had to In high school, they. 0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:17.359 Just threw the ball high you caught it. 0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:20.160 In college, it was like, well, if the if you 0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:22.359 have a rolled up corner, then you have to make 0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:25.399 this dission, this decision, And I was like a rolled 0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:28.680 up what now? I was It was really hard to 0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:30.759 keep up with it with the playbook and it wasn't 0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:32.680 as sophisticated as your playbook. 0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.160 No, but at every every level that you go up, yeah, 0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.480 it's a big jump. Yeah. I can remember, Yeah, going 0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:41.040 from high school to junior college and I was a 0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:44.480 jump just as athletes. Yeah, and you know you do 0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:47.319 well in junior college you go to everyone was the best. 0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:47.760 In their area. 0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:50.200 Yeah, and you go to that and it's like you 0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:51.440 have to learn a new language. 0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:55.560 Yeah. But the idea that football players are any athlete 0:36:55.640 --> 0:37:01.080 are our meatheads is so false and insult thing because 0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:04.400 the level of intellect and the decision making, the quickness. 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:08.160 Not to mention the kinetic genius that you guys have, 0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:11.799 but anybody I know they make fun of gronk, but 0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:15.520 anybody who can do these these reads is has it 0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:19.719 has an intelligence. Maybe not for chemistry and physics, no, 0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:24.960 but right, but for for the movement and also just 0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:28.280 the decision making quickness is really impressive. 0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:30.879 I played in the league for twelve years. I played 0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:35.200 with some meat heads. Really, they couldn't follow the the. 0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:38.360 There's there's like maybe one to three guys on a 0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:40.960 team that are just either so big, so fast, I 0:37:41.040 --> 0:37:41.960 see strong. 0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.239 I see physically. They were able to dominate and do that. 0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:46.239 They won't do it for a long time now, right, 0:37:46.600 --> 0:37:48.720 you know because people learn your moves when you get 0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.800 on film, yes, and people can prepare for it, yes, 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:54.000 but you know they can sneak out. There's some meat 0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:56.560 heads that can sneak out a couple of years. All right, 0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:59.440 all right, thanks for thanks for nobody. Also I also 0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.880 say that too, Like, uh, I got a little disappointed 0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:05.239 in Meryl Streep because I was a huge Meryl Streep fan, 0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.680 still am. But when she went on the she won 0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:12.040 an award for Best Actress or something. It was like 0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:15.000 five years ago or something, and she goes she called 0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.520 out the athlete community, like where the arts were this? 0:38:19.160 --> 0:38:21.680 And I go, you know how artistic it is to 0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:25.040 be able to have this vision, to be able to 0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:28.400 set up a block, do a spin move that's like 0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:29.879 that's a person's art. 0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:30.560 Oh my god. 0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:34.960 You know, like you said that kinetic art, yeah, movement, yes, yeah, 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:38.240 you see some of these guys run. Yes, they're big, strong, fast, 0:38:38.760 --> 0:38:40.799 but they have footwork like a ballerina. 0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:44.520 It wasn't a coincidence that Jerry Rice dominated Dancing with 0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:51.120 the Stars. Yeah, yeah, right right, because he's an artist. Yeah, 0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:52.799 there were a lot of There were a lot of 0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:58.480 players who who could have been equally impressive and dance 0:38:58.600 --> 0:38:59.640 or things like that. 0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:02.960 Yeah, Emmit Smithton boll too. Yeah, Oh my gosh, it 0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.160 was awesome. Yeah, won great feet. 0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:08.080 Yeah, you get offered every single year to be on 0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:08.439 that show. 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.319 I'm not going on Dancing with the Stars. Good for you. 0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:15.960 If I got to go there, we got problems. I 0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:18.560 love Dancing with the Stars. I'm a big fan, but 0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:20.279 let me let me like doing this. 0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:22.160 No, you can do your you can use your brain 0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.160 in your mouth to do great things. 0:39:24.440 --> 0:39:26.200 And Meryl Streep, you know, are still a fan. But 0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:27.160 you know it hurt me. 0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:31.000 No, I get that. That is hurtful. And there's part 0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:34.160 of the country. I love UFC. In the NFL. Where 0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:38.200 are the arts artistic? It is narrow. She didn't have 0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:40.279 to she didn't have to take bring us down. Yeah, 0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:41.840 exactly exactly. 0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.920 So to wrap up this Patriots team, a little bit 0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:49.600 of quarterback controversy. Grogan was up and down his whole career. 0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:52.600 They drafted Tony Easton in a pretty incredible nineteen eighty 0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:55.960 three draft class for quarterbacks. John Lway, Jim Kelly, and 0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:59.520 Dan Marino was drafted actually after Tony Easton, so Eason 0:39:59.560 --> 0:40:03.160 won the job start of the year. I believe two 0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.320 and three separated his shoulder. 0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:07.600 Say those guys again real quick, I'm sorry. 0:40:07.680 --> 0:40:09.680 So the whole draft class, you know, just the three 0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:13.440 guys that were before him, John Elway at first overall, 0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:16.920 Jim Kelly at fourteen, who was after him. Dim Reno 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:20.120 was after Tony. So Tony Gyson was drafted to fifteen. 0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:22.279 Little problem with his nose, if. 0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.000 You know what I mean. And wasn't the Bears quarterback 0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:25.080 in that draft class too. 0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:29.279 Also was Todd black Legs and Ken O'Brien. Where the 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.600 other people drafted in the first round. I don't know 0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:35.480 about McMahon. I can come back on McMahon. So there's 0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.480 a little controversy with the quarterbacks. Easton goes down to 0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:43.040 the shoulder, Grogan comes in. They win six games in 0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:47.319 a row, and then Grogan breaks his leg and a 0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:49.480 lot overtime loss of the Jets and then Easton comes 0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:52.520 back in and then finishes out the season. Also would 0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:54.600 be remiss if we don't mention Hall of Fame Patriot 0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:55.600 legend John Hannah. 0:40:55.800 --> 0:41:00.560 This is dog Hannah from Alabama, Hannah from a BAM. 0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:03.440 Yeah. I mean that was how desperate we were for 0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:06.880 superstars that we were in love with an offensive lineman guard. 0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:08.439 He was different though. 0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:11.480 That's tight though, Yeah, that's tight. I loved him. I 0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:13.640 love I always clicked with the line like I love 0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:19.200 Logan Mankins. Yeah, I love Logans. Yeah, of course, just 0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:22.799 the dude. I like Matt Light and Matt they were 0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:26.440 really good guys too. That the interesting wrestler. Yeah. The 0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:30.080 interesting thing with the offensive lineman, and I'm sure this 0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.840 is not unique to Boston College was how close they were. 0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:36.080 And and and they were real family. 0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:39.360 And because they're they're not getting all the all the 0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:42.080 notoriety and everything like that that but they're doing all 0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.400 the hardest work you got to win the game. And 0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:45.719 they never touch a football. 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:51.919 No, they're the ultimate selfless team player. Yeah, don't say much. 0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.400 They all hang out by each other. Yeah. Yeah, and 0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:57.000 their average life expectancy is like thirty nine. 0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:01.800 Yeah, they're like professionals. They're like wrestlers, right, they're they're 0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:03.520 like professional wrestling. 0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:06.279 It's changed. It's changed because you see him. All these 0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:09.880 guys now, as soon as they're done, they shed sixty pounds. 0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:12.960 Yeah, oh yes, yes, you know, yeah, more a lot 0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:14.280 more information these days. 0:42:14.360 --> 0:42:15.080 No, it's true. 0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:17.400 You know. Back in the day, they yeah, keep it eating. 0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:20.320 So John Hannah said of this season, my goal was 0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:23.359 to play sixteen years. And during that season nineteenighty five 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:26.360 eighty six, I had a torn calf muscle, two torn 0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:30.040 rotator cuffs, and they'd blown up knee. They repaired both 0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:32.000 shoulders at the same time. When I went to get 0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.240 my knee done, my cartilage looked like sand. My femur 0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:37.480 was wearing down. I was told by the doctor that 0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:39.840 if I had a job I could do outside of football, 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:41.239 I should go do that. 0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:42.440 And that's what I did. 0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:43.719 Wow. 0:42:44.120 --> 0:42:49.280 Yeah, that's tough. The shoulder, knee. Oh, surgeries, I can't imagine. 0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:54.479 I'm very lucky. Wow, twelve surgeries. It's like every off 0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:57.440 season it's like going into the get a pit stop. 0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:03.960 Man. When you know the radiologists and the nurses by name, Yeah, 0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:06.719 hey Mary, are you doing it right? Oh? Man? Did 0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:09.200 you give me a little extra scoop on that one? 0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.560 Oh my god? But I will say going, I have 0:43:12.640 --> 0:43:15.359 gone under and those when you're counting down. 0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:17.439 That's a man that feels good. 0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:22.680 Just go sleep. Sleep The best note tossing and turning 0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:27.359 just ten, I'm out, Michael Jackson and Prince is that? 0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:27.920 What is that? 0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:28.399 Was that too? 0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:28.920 I think so? 0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:29.720 Yeah? 0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:33.160 RP Alright, Uh, let's set the stage of this game 0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:35.680 first we get to the game. What was the whole 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.839 thoughts of the city of this team just tough team, 0:43:38.920 --> 0:43:39.799 everyone's proud of it? 0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:42.560 Or yeah, I mean it was like I said, it 0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:45.160 felt like a holiday. Yeah, like like we didn't get 0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:48.280 school off, but everybody was focusing on that and everybody 0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:50.200 was in a good mood the way. Do you remember 0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:53.759 like Wednesday before Thanksgiving at school, everybody's like even the 0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:57.400 teachers who don't like you are being kind and looking 0:43:57.440 --> 0:43:59.520 out for you. That's what it feels like in New England. 0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.080 Maybe get when the when the when the Pat's Red 0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:06.920 Sox Bruins or are going for a championship and we 0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.759 we we were not that hopeful that we could win 0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:12.960 in Miami, but there was a chance for a for 0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:15.399 a miracle. We had seen what flute he had done 0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:18.520 in Miami recently, and so we were, yeah, we were 0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.640 all about this. I think, yeah, there was there was 0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:25.080 maybe a destiny vibes and and sports radio was it 0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:28.880 was basically this guy called Eddie Andandlman in New England. 0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.520 He had a show in w hd H and it 0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.520 was it was Sunday night, so one night a week 0:44:34.560 --> 0:44:38.640 you would hear sports talk and then sometimes Sunday morning 0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:40.239 they were shows. So it wasn't a it wasn't a 0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:43.920 twenty four hour broadcast. There was one broadcast. And remember 0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:47.120 he had a he had a song parody about this 0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:49.800 team with all the players because some of the players 0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:53.200 names rhymed like lip It and Tippett although it was 0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:55.799 La pet but Andre Tippet, lip It and Tippet, and 0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:58.960 Blackman's a sackman. The d doesn't play, it attacks, the 0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:02.319 Dolphins will go down today to Raymond Berry's pats. That 0:45:02.480 --> 0:45:04.400 was the song. I can't bet I'm getting the chills 0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:04.680 that I. 0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:05.800 Remember those that you remember. 0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:09.680 Yeah, and and so we and we hadn't won in 0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:13.319 a while. The Red Sox hadn't made the playoffs since 0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:14.520 nineteen seventy five. 0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:15.960 So that's ten years. 0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:18.719 That's a lifetime nowadays, right if the Red Sox won 0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:21.719 ten years without even making the playoffs and then and 0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:24.600 the Patriots had beaten the Jets and then the Raiders, 0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.600 so there wasn't there was a feeling of momentum and destiny. 0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:33.000 But we never went in Miami. Eighteen consecutive years of 0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:34.000 losing in Miami. 0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:37.400 So that yeah, so we were ten years. 0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:39.719 We were not we were not convinced they would win. 0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:44.000 And then oh my word, it was the Super Bowl 0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:44.359 for us. 0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:46.439 It was the Super Bowl to the Super Bowl, Yeah, 0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:47.520 super Bowl. 0:45:48.120 --> 0:45:48.640 Yeah. 0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.000 Games with Names is brought to you by my friends 0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.799 at wind Bet. 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And 0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:15.759 this was the first team to make it to the 0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:18.040 super Bowl from the wild Card and this is the 0:47:18.080 --> 0:47:21.120 first team to win all three road games to make 0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:23.839 it to the Super Bowl. And Gary mentioned too about 0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:26.760 this Orange Bowl Jinx. The Pats were oh to eighteen 0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:28.520 in the Orange Bowl. 0:47:28.680 --> 0:47:30.759 I didn't realize that they had never won there. 0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:32.640 I just thought it was eighteen years in a row, 0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:35.719 which makes sense because the team was not that sixty. 0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:38.120 And maybe since nineteen sixty six. I don't know if 0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:40.279 they had won one in the past. They did win 0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:43.160 one on the road in Florida in Tampa, but it 0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:44.719 was in Tampa onge. 0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:46.600 The Orange Bowl. They owned us the Orange Bowl, I 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:48.000 mean wow. 0:47:48.040 --> 0:47:50.160 And then leading up to this game from the Dolphins side, 0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:53.080 because of the matchup they had with the Bears, and 0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:55.319 everyone was viewing that that was such a matchup and 0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:56.960 this was going to be an incredible Super Bowl over 0:47:57.160 --> 0:48:01.480 Dolphins Bears the rematch. Ye offense, great defense, let's go. 0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:03.680 So they were kind of looking at and they were 0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:05.759 writing a I think a seven or eight game win 0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:06.560 streak into this. 0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:06.960 Wow. 0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:09.960 And then also Squish the Fish was selling t shirts 0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:11.520 and yeah, I remember that. 0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:12.160 That's amazing. 0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:15.279 Yeah, it's good fun, it really is. 0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:20.160 And then the game is not a the most remarkable gameplay. 0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:22.040 I think the thing here is a lot of. 0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:27.719 The anticipation kind that's remarkable. Yeah, that's called tough. You 0:48:27.760 --> 0:48:29.560 want to be a tough team. You gotta run the ball, 0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:32.080 you gotta stop. They just gotta cover kicks. 0:48:32.160 --> 0:48:33.160 Yeah, they grounded out. 0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:37.440 It was it was Craig James, Anthony Collins, and this 0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.719 guy named Mosy Tatupu who was like a local, a. 0:48:40.680 --> 0:48:46.280 Local legend of Samoan legend and and also a Patriots legend. 0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:48.239 He could always be counted on to get you the 0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:51.520 really tough yards. He was so tough and strong and 0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:55.160 and beloved. There was this group called Mossy's Mooses, which 0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:58.799 was like the equivalent of of Like they would make 0:48:58.840 --> 0:49:02.400 a big sheet, put it on and they were fans 0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:04.480 of this guy who only carried the ball four or 0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:08.640 five times, but he blocked. He blocked really hard. Yeah, 0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:11.960 and he was really important to everybody. We Yeah, the 0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:15.640 blue collar type players are just so beloved in New 0:49:15.680 --> 0:49:18.960 England after all these still that's a big thing. Yeah, yeah, 0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:22.840 the lunch pail guys, that's what they loved about. Julian Edelman, 0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:25.160 who was once quoted as saying, I love getting hit. 0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:28.520 Your young, dumb and full of cup. You don't know 0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:29.360 what you're thinking. 0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:31.879 Now. 0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:36.560 I'm thinking of that. I'm like, oh, it's so stupid. No, 0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:43.920 but is this not just a perfect display of what 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:45.760 your city is through football teams? 0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:45.960 Oh? 0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:51.440 Yes, totally tough, totally top fifty on the round. Yeah. 0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:54.440 And by the way, you could see that maybe if 0:49:54.440 --> 0:49:57.120 it was in a cold weather game. But to grind 0:49:57.160 --> 0:49:59.360 it out like that when in my end and it 0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:04.200 was just Tony Easton. He did not throw many many attempts, 0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:05.640 I mean, and he made most of them. And it 0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:09.359 was basically ball control. And then, and here's the thing. 0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:12.000 Growing up as a Patriots fan, they were always a 0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:15.480 run first team. They would run on third down and 0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:18.120 then and then punt on fourth down like they would 0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:22.320 maybe throw sometimes on third down position. But yes, totally, 0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:25.560 but they they would. Yeah, they weren't a team that 0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:27.920 would air it out very frequently. And and Grogan I 0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:30.399 thought had a good arm, but they just yeah, they 0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:33.680 were They were a ball control offense. Yeah, I can't, 0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:35.759 you know, I'm looking at everything. I'm looking at all 0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:38.640 the numbers. But Don Shula is a handsome guy. No, 0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:41.880 he had a gorgeous had a wavy hair, and and 0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:45.280 over the years I did. It just drives me crazy 0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:49.080 that the those old Dolphins guys get to celebrate every 0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:52.480 year when a team loses. It drives me nuts like. 0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:54.319 That that we had that. 0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:57.359 Yes, I wasn't the I know, but someday it has 0:50:57.400 --> 0:51:01.240 to happen, and if only to to shut those guys 0:51:01.320 --> 0:51:04.279 up because they're they're smug about it, and they they 0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:06.400 don't bring into the fact that they did not play 0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:09.759 a sixteen game regular season and the playoffs run as 0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:10.319 ard to us. 0:51:10.440 --> 0:51:13.239 That means it's probably never gonna happen. It may never 0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:16.120 happen because it's eighteen. It'll be eighteen probably in the 0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:18.000 next three years, right, and you know there's an extra 0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:24.400 playoff game less byes. Yeah, that's it's that's regardless if 0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:28.560 it was fourteen or whatever. That's that's an impressive stat 0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:31.359 just to have guys to be able to get up 0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:31.960 every week. 0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:35.160 Yeah, I mean, you know how it is. No, I know, 0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:35.560 I know. 0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:38.720 The start of the season, you're excited because it's the start. 0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:39.959 Yeah yeah, yeah, but. 0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:44.200 Then the days get short, man, it's tough, gets cold. Yeah, 0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:47.440 your body starts tot you got an ankle, your having 0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:51.440 all day? Yeah, you know, week seven to twelve, you're 0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:52.799 sitting there miserable. 0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:54.640 Sun's gone. 0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:57.560 You go into work, it's dark, you leave work, it's dark. 0:51:57.640 --> 0:52:00.919 You see you see the sun or the cloudy grace 0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:04.920 guys of Foxborough for that's depressing. It's very depressing. I 0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:07.680 used to have this little light me too. Yeah, the 0:52:07.719 --> 0:52:10.520 light in my locker the light box. Yes, it's supposed 0:52:10.520 --> 0:52:12.640 to give you the UV yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's 0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:15.879 really helpful. But it's and that's the vitamin D supplements. 0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:17.480 They were huge into that. That's yes. 0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:20.520 Oh yeah, most people are vitamin D deficient. Let's do 0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:23.279 let's do a quick PSA. Yeah, get your vitamin D. 0:52:23.440 --> 0:52:25.520 Vitamin D, but you also have to have calcium to 0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:27.840 break down the vitamin D. So don't forget the calcium 0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:30.479 as well. Oh and needs to be able to break 0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:30.839 it down. 0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:34.120 Okay, So take a calcium supplement as well. 0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:36.640 Yeah, okay, because that's what helps the vitamin D get 0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:38.400 breaking down. That's really helpful. 0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:40.840 Let me wrap it this game. So final score was 0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:43.320 thirty one fourteen. We touched on the big things was 0:52:44.800 --> 0:52:47.920 Patriots out out rushed the Dolphins two fifty five to 0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:51.000 fifty six. They you mentioned Tony Easton only had twelve 0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:54.160 pass attempts, but he threw for three touchdowns. Dan Marino, 0:52:54.840 --> 0:52:59.239 you went twenty for forty eight, two touchdowns, two interceptions, 0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:02.000 and there was six total turnovers from the Dolphins for 0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:02.439 this game. 0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:05.279 That is something else. The Marino was as good as 0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:09.120 it ever got. I'm looking at the face masks and 0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:12.680 they're I mean they're similar to what people wear when 0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:13.920 they're fencing. 0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:17.200 Right they are. I don't know how they ever saw 0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:20.920 I mean that was that's what I grew up seeing. 0:53:21.080 --> 0:53:22.759 Yeah, line right, yeah, and. 0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:25.520 They have those neck rolls and the huge shoulder pads. 0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:27.640 Now it's as small as you can. Did you wear 0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:30.200 any knee pets my first three years? I didn't, and 0:53:30.280 --> 0:53:33.480 they needed it with knee or thigh? Isn't that good 0:53:33.600 --> 0:53:35.320 just to be faster? I don't know why. I just 0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:36.080 thought it looked cooler. 0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:40.200 The vanity. Yeah, my word. 0:53:40.760 --> 0:53:43.080 It was more of all the studs on the team 0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:43.640 were doing it. 0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:45.799 I see, you know, I get it. To do that, 0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:48.359 I get it, I get it. That makes sense. 0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:51.320 And then you get a deep thigh bruise and Belichicks like, 0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:54.320 what the fuck are we go? Jesus So he would 0:53:54.360 --> 0:53:57.240 mandate us. He mandate us in practice, put it in games, 0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:58.080 you could take them out. 0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:01.560 Was there ever a point where you felt comfortable with 0:54:02.200 --> 0:54:05.880 somebody like that or is it always ill? Yeah? 0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:08.840 Yeah, after like my second Super Bowl win, okay, and 0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:11.600 like a historic catch, then I felt like I could 0:54:11.600 --> 0:54:12.520 crack a joke at them. 0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:12.880 Yeah. 0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:15.960 I just always every experience in to this day. 0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:19.400 My high school coach and anybody who coached me in college, 0:54:19.440 --> 0:54:22.120 I still call them coach, and I still want to 0:54:22.120 --> 0:54:24.399 make them proud and please them. 0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:25.800 I still Isn't it interesting? 0:54:26.160 --> 0:54:26.600 It is? 0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:30.040 But I mean, but they really were so meaningful to us. 0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:33.520 I mean, especially at our at our youngest ages, they 0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:36.680 mold your your outlook. And I don't think everybody should 0:54:36.680 --> 0:54:39.200 play a sport, but you should play something where you 0:54:39.280 --> 0:54:43.360 have to rely on somebody for mentorship and guidance and 0:54:43.840 --> 0:54:46.920 also something that somebody helps you improve at something. 0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:49.959 Yeah, you know, it's a great lesson, right I think 0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:52.400 there's so many life lessons, Like I have a six 0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:56.719 year old right now, and I love that she's in 0:54:57.160 --> 0:55:02.560 soccer teams, she does gymnastics, tennis. The life lessons you 0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:05.880 learn in a team sport or I think so much 0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:10.200 on a different page, just because in life, you're not 0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:12.600 going to go through this thing alone. And anything you do, 0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:15.080 you have a job, you are this a You're gonna 0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:17.040 need other people, and so you need to learn at 0:55:17.040 --> 0:55:19.600 a long young age how to work with people. You 0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:21.400 need to learn at a young age to rely on 0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:23.560 other people. You need to learn at a young age 0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:26.480 that people are going to rely on you. You need accountability. 0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:28.880 You're going to learn how to compete. You're going to 0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:31.200 learn how to set goals. You're going to learn how 0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:34.799 to sacrifice and all these things. Like as soon as 0:55:34.800 --> 0:55:36.399 she gets old enough where she can make her own 0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:38.560 decision that she don't have to play, but at least 0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:40.640 you'll have that instilled in her and she'll feel that 0:55:41.120 --> 0:55:43.520 and then she can go to what she wants. Yeah, 0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:45.879 I love it right now. It's not a this isn't 0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:47.560 a democracy a dictatorship. 0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:51.680 That's good. But I mean the other thing, And maybe 0:55:51.719 --> 0:55:54.839 it's obvious, but it was. It was unusual I think 0:55:54.840 --> 0:55:57.320 when I grew up in the nineteen seventies in a 0:55:58.160 --> 0:55:59.640 community that was that. 0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:03.759 Was mostly white people with people. Yeah, it was white 0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:04.400 tough people. 0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:08.560 And then but through basketball and football and and sports, 0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:11.280 I was able to interact with with people who didn't 0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:14.040 look like me. And it was really it was important 0:56:14.040 --> 0:56:16.040 to understand, now, they're no different than you, they want 0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:18.600 the same things, They work as hard as you do, 0:56:18.680 --> 0:56:22.920 sometimes harder, and and so that that was very helpful 0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:24.319 in that circumstances. 0:56:24.600 --> 0:56:25.920 Communities, culture. 0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:28.120 Yeah, and I know a lot of people who who 0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:31.480 are in certain fields that never intersect with people who 0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:32.840 don't look like them, and they're. 0:56:32.680 --> 0:56:35.279 And and it's really they're missing out. And that's just 0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:38.200 and they they probably acted a certain way around people 0:56:38.239 --> 0:56:41.919 because they don't have experience. And that's what the sport does. 0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:45.080 It caused you to experience other people. Yeah, and I've 0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:47.600 been blessed that way with comedy as well. People have 0:56:47.680 --> 0:56:51.879 different backgrounds and interests and and and and who weren't 0:56:51.920 --> 0:56:54.799 even born in America. Frequently it's been really cool. And 0:56:54.840 --> 0:56:58.000 it's really cool because you guys have a common interest. 0:56:58.160 --> 0:57:00.759 Yes, Yeah, so that's what brings you together. And that's 0:57:01.040 --> 0:57:03.640 and that's the other that's the other thing. They didn't 0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:06.000 care where you came from, as long as you could 0:57:06.080 --> 0:57:08.480 play or or loved the sport. 0:57:08.840 --> 0:57:11.400 Yeah, it was really special. A lot of stuff to 0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:14.799 be learned from sport. You know, it's definitely not for everyone. No, 0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:17.480 there's so many No. But it could also be music 0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:19.080 instruments or something like that. 0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:19.160 That. 0:57:19.280 --> 0:57:22.120 Yeah, what's the first thing that comes to mind when 0:57:22.120 --> 0:57:25.760 you think of this game? After the game, before the game, 0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:28.680 when you think of this game, I think of my dad. 0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:32.400 I think of my dad because I'm from a divorce family. 0:57:32.400 --> 0:57:35.200 So he would come on Sundays, and Sundays meant watching 0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:38.400 the Patriots with him, and he was such a good fan. 0:57:39.000 --> 0:57:41.080 I never heard him criticize the players. 0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:44.200 He would be disappointed, he would be sad, but he 0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:46.080 never said because a lot of New England fans say, 0:57:46.080 --> 0:57:48.480 don't don't follow the Red Sox, don't follow the Patriots, 0:57:48.520 --> 0:57:50.840 I'll break your heart. But my dad just loved these 0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:53.840 guys and these teams. And I remember how happy he 0:57:53.920 --> 0:57:57.000 was and how he wasn't a pessimist, which a lot 0:57:57.000 --> 0:57:59.800 of Bostonians are. He really believed in the team from 0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:02.400 week to week and it would be become disappointed. And 0:58:02.440 --> 0:58:04.640 we were just so thrilled by that game and so 0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:08.400 excited about the super Bowl. And the great thing about 0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:11.760 the mindset back then was that making it to the. 0:58:11.720 --> 0:58:13.480 Super Bowl was the super Bowl. 0:58:13.680 --> 0:58:16.320 Yeah, a dream come true, and we were happy it 0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:19.560 wasn't It wasn't a failure if the team lost, is 0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:21.560 it now? I feel and I feel for the Buffalo 0:58:21.600 --> 0:58:24.840 Bills fans. Yeah, because it happens four times in a row. 0:58:25.200 --> 0:58:26.160 It's comical. 0:58:26.360 --> 0:58:29.320 And then what they're going through right now, Yes, you 0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:30.760 think that this is their time? 0:58:30.960 --> 0:58:35.840 Yeah, it's heartbreaking, but but I just I feel for 0:58:35.880 --> 0:58:40.120 those fans because it's it's uh, you give your heart 0:58:40.120 --> 0:58:40.640 and soul. 0:58:40.680 --> 0:58:43.280 You really do those people. I'll tell you right now, 0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:47.200 those Buffalo fans, they haven't they haven't experienced a lot 0:58:47.200 --> 0:58:50.520 of success, and they still love their team. They love 0:58:50.560 --> 0:58:51.000 their team. 0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:53.120 They've never been. 0:58:53.120 --> 0:58:57.520 Leaked off so many different ways. Anytime, oh wow, anytime 0:58:57.520 --> 0:59:01.320 you go into Buffalo from three years old to one 0:59:01.400 --> 0:59:03.800 hundred years old, you're getting the finger after you leave. 0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:09.480 Was there ever something somebody yelled and not in the profanity, 0:59:09.520 --> 0:59:13.120 but something like I remember just certain things would be 0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:17.560 yelled from from opposing teams and they would like get you. 0:59:17.720 --> 0:59:20.560 Like really like Gary your hair or something. 0:59:20.640 --> 0:59:23.080 It would really be it would be like that hurt 0:59:23.080 --> 0:59:23.560 my feeling. 0:59:23.840 --> 0:59:25.360 You want to know what hurt my feelings? When it 0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:26.960 was a third and eight and all of a sudden, 0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:28.880 I see a pink dill do get thrown onto the 0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:32.880 field and it says Brady's dildo. That's what That's what 0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:38.200 traumatized me. And I sat and watched, Sorry that happened 0:59:38.200 --> 0:59:41.840 to you. I sit and watch the referees. They're sitting 0:59:41.840 --> 0:59:43.600 here having a discussion on how to get it off 0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:45.800 the field. One's kicking it off. They don't know what 0:59:45.840 --> 0:59:46.160 to do. 0:59:47.200 --> 0:59:51.160 It was that. That's what I remember from the Buffalo, Buddy, 0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:53.040 I'm sorry. 0:59:53.320 --> 0:59:54.080 It was so big. 0:59:54.320 --> 1:00:00.760 Yes, as the Beastie Boys, I think toured with that. 1:00:03.280 --> 1:00:07.160 So the Patriots went on to Super Bowl ten or twenty, 1:00:07.520 --> 1:00:12.560 super Bowl twenty at their first in franchise history, the 1:00:12.640 --> 1:00:13.920 first X rated. 1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:20.960 Yeah, the first extra Oh my gosh, truly, there was wow. 1:00:21.440 --> 1:00:22.959 Literally that was on the field. 1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:26.680 I was actually impressed with the fan that imagination to 1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:28.600 sneak this thing in because it's not easy getting nuts 1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:31.480 into that stadium. No, that's really impressive. 1:00:31.840 --> 1:00:35.080 I was gonna say, I don't want to I don't 1:00:35.080 --> 1:00:37.880 want to make any any guesses that where it. 1:00:37.920 --> 1:00:43.800 Was hiding it. The Patriots lost to the Bears, the 1:00:43.840 --> 1:00:47.240 eighty five Bears with that Super Bowl shuffle, sweetness the 1:00:47.320 --> 1:00:52.400 Fridge or McMahon, that beautiful defense, that forty six defense, 1:00:52.720 --> 1:00:55.439 forty six to ten, but they were winning three Ryan, 1:00:55.720 --> 1:00:58.840 Buddy Ryan, they carried him off the field. Yep, carried 1:00:58.880 --> 1:01:01.760 him off the field. Yeah. I love Buddy Ryan. I 1:01:01.840 --> 1:01:02.600 like the Ryans too. 1:01:02.800 --> 1:01:03.480 I know U. 1:01:04.120 --> 1:01:07.720 I saw Rex at the Belmont when he was still 1:01:07.720 --> 1:01:09.880 the head coach of the Jets. Oh wow. 1:01:10.160 --> 1:01:13.480 And it was right after that whole foot thing, that Welker. 1:01:13.560 --> 1:01:14.760 Oh my god, we were all there. 1:01:15.000 --> 1:01:17.880 That was really funny, man, it was that was next level. 1:01:18.040 --> 1:01:21.200 It was funny. We ended up losing though, but yeah, 1:01:21.240 --> 1:01:21.520 we were. 1:01:21.600 --> 1:01:21.880 He was. 1:01:21.920 --> 1:01:23.880 He was great about it. He's a fun guy. 1:01:24.120 --> 1:01:24.320 Yeah. 1:01:24.360 --> 1:01:26.520 He seems like he has a really good sense of humor. 1:01:26.880 --> 1:01:29.400 Yeah. And then his brother, I saw him, he's the 1:01:29.440 --> 1:01:33.480 same way. It's just it's such such rich in history 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:37.240 of that family. Yeah. Really, this generation more than the 1:01:37.520 --> 1:01:42.720 the guys in the seventies and eighties. I do like 1:01:42.880 --> 1:01:45.880 seeing the guys after the game hugging each other from 1:01:45.920 --> 1:01:46.880 the opposing teams. 1:01:47.160 --> 1:01:48.000 It's basketball. 1:01:48.240 --> 1:01:51.640 I know it upsets the old school people, but these 1:01:51.680 --> 1:01:54.600 guys understand what they went through. And it's not like 1:01:54.640 --> 1:01:57.960 they're they're letting up because they're playing somebody they went 1:01:58.000 --> 1:02:01.640 to camp with or college with. They want to just 1:02:01.920 --> 1:02:04.840 for the sake of their own integrity and there and 1:02:04.920 --> 1:02:08.600 they and their egos beat them, and and so I 1:02:08.840 --> 1:02:11.400 I understand. It's like the boxers who hug at the end. 1:02:11.440 --> 1:02:15.720 Nobody understands what they went through. Like like I remember 1:02:15.840 --> 1:02:19.480 one of my favorite matches of all time was uh 1:02:20.560 --> 1:02:27.240 no Drago Balboa when when the Balboa I feel I 1:02:27.280 --> 1:02:31.680 feel he brought it was. It was gonna end, but 1:02:31.960 --> 1:02:33.840 he sped it up. He sped it up. 1:02:34.600 --> 1:02:36.520 It was more diplomacy. 1:02:36.840 --> 1:02:40.520 But that didn't hurt. What what was the line. 1:02:42.440 --> 1:02:47.720 Can change? Yes, yes, change is good. Yeah, yeah that 1:02:47.840 --> 1:02:49.880 was when of That was a really good documentary. But 1:02:49.960 --> 1:02:55.439 getting back to after the game, after the game, yes, 1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:58.920 I understand what other guys go through, and there's a 1:02:59.040 --> 1:03:02.720 there's a respect. Yeah, there's always a respect because I've 1:03:02.760 --> 1:03:05.000 been in every situation on that field, a guy trying 1:03:05.000 --> 1:03:07.000 to make the team, guy trying to earn a role, 1:03:07.160 --> 1:03:09.680 the guy that's trying to keep up his expectations that 1:03:09.880 --> 1:03:13.080 the standards that he's made for himself have been on 1:03:13.120 --> 1:03:18.760 every side of that. Sure, but before game, oh yeah, 1:03:18.800 --> 1:03:21.000 we can't talk. No no, no, no, no, no no 1:03:21.280 --> 1:03:23.680 talk No. I can only sneer at you, thank you? 1:03:23.800 --> 1:03:27.160 Yeah yeah, no one hundred after. 1:03:27.000 --> 1:03:30.120 Game all shake your hand if we win. I would 1:03:30.320 --> 1:03:32.640 if we win. Frequently, when if we lose, I used 1:03:32.640 --> 1:03:35.400 to just literally get off. Yeah yeah, frequently I would 1:03:35.400 --> 1:03:38.040 box and I would I would tell my opponent I 1:03:38.120 --> 1:03:38.800 must break you. 1:03:39.600 --> 1:03:44.439 I must break you. That wasn't me. I mean, draga, 1:03:44.480 --> 1:03:44.760 what's it? 1:03:44.960 --> 1:03:47.760 I remember this one fighter had a prediction for the 1:03:47.800 --> 1:03:52.480 fight and his prediction was pain. Yes, Lang was one 1:03:52.480 --> 1:03:54.640 of the all time heavyweights. I don't care what you say. 1:03:55.000 --> 1:03:58.880 Some people love Tyson, other people Ali, but Lang one 1:03:58.880 --> 1:04:05.600 of the all time w you see champions. Yeah, you 1:04:05.720 --> 1:04:08.720 just talking about his wife talking about Oh my god, 1:04:08.880 --> 1:04:10.600 he had to go to l A yeah and get 1:04:10.600 --> 1:04:13.240 a little get a little brother life in to get 1:04:13.240 --> 1:04:16.040 his rhythm. Yes, oh my god, I love that woman. 1:04:16.120 --> 1:04:18.160 That was one of the low key, one of the best, oh, 1:04:18.240 --> 1:04:20.080 one of the the most watchable. 1:04:20.280 --> 1:04:21.600 I mean it was one of the best fights of 1:04:21.640 --> 1:04:22.000 all time. 1:04:22.080 --> 1:04:23.400 Yeah, and I love the training. 1:04:23.600 --> 1:04:26.240 There is no tomorrow, Julian, there is no there is 1:04:26.280 --> 1:04:26.920 no tomorrow. 1:04:27.320 --> 1:04:27.720 You know that. 1:04:27.840 --> 1:04:31.439 That's that was And once again, like my career goes 1:04:31.480 --> 1:04:32.640 into these rocky movies. 1:04:32.760 --> 1:04:33.880 Yes, you know what I mean. 1:04:33.920 --> 1:04:37.280 There's there is a time where you're doing the magazine covers, yeah, 1:04:37.520 --> 1:04:41.000 and you're you're living on cloud nine and the wrestling 1:04:41.000 --> 1:04:44.360 thunderlips thunderlips, Yes, and then all of a sudden you 1:04:44.400 --> 1:04:46.800 get hurt or something. There's something that happens, you lose 1:04:46.840 --> 1:04:49.640 your confidence and you gotta you gotta build it back. 1:04:49.800 --> 1:04:53.080 Confidence is every a big percentage of the game. How 1:04:53.080 --> 1:04:56.000 do you How do you build your confidence? It's a 1:04:56.080 --> 1:04:57.320 it's a constant struggle. 1:04:57.400 --> 1:05:01.240 But I do gain confidence by thinking of things that 1:05:01.320 --> 1:05:04.760 I initially I wasn't able to do and then do 1:05:04.880 --> 1:05:08.520 it easily without thinking. From tying your shoes to making 1:05:08.560 --> 1:05:11.240 free throws to dunking a basketball, all these things in 1:05:11.280 --> 1:05:13.560 your life that you're like, I can't do it, I 1:05:13.600 --> 1:05:15.840 can't do it, and then you don't give up. It's 1:05:15.880 --> 1:05:19.440 like that that San Antonio Spurs thing where you you 1:05:19.520 --> 1:05:22.840 hammer the stone every day and it doesn't even crack, 1:05:22.920 --> 1:05:25.959 there's no evidence, and then years later it cracks wide 1:05:26.000 --> 1:05:29.320 open and it's just like, keep pounding that rock every day. 1:05:29.400 --> 1:05:34.120 And so it's I think my confidence is that John 1:05:34.160 --> 1:05:37.919 Wooden idea, the preparation and giving it all and then 1:05:38.320 --> 1:05:40.200 what else can I What else can I do? Yeah? 1:05:40.240 --> 1:05:42.560 That pyramid of success, man, it still holds up and 1:05:42.560 --> 1:05:44.400 it was written in the fifties. Yeah. 1:05:44.520 --> 1:05:48.440 Yeah, for me, I always uh, you know, as an athlete, 1:05:48.880 --> 1:05:51.040 you know you deal with confidence because you you know, 1:05:51.360 --> 1:05:53.840 especially when when you play on a team like New 1:05:53.880 --> 1:05:58.000 England because there's there's a standard. Yeah, like you know, 1:05:58.080 --> 1:05:59.840 you know, if we don't win a super Bowl, it's 1:05:59.840 --> 1:06:02.200 a failure at least when we were playing when I was, 1:06:02.560 --> 1:06:04.840 when I was on that team. 1:06:03.840 --> 1:06:04.040 Yeah. 1:06:04.880 --> 1:06:07.760 So you for me, if I would ever lose the 1:06:07.840 --> 1:06:10.640 confidence if I dropped a ball or something, you know, 1:06:10.640 --> 1:06:13.120 I didn't perform a certain way in a game, or 1:06:13.200 --> 1:06:14.120 I missed a couple of. 1:06:14.040 --> 1:06:14.720 This or that. 1:06:15.240 --> 1:06:18.160 For me, I would just always go back to the fundamentals. 1:06:18.200 --> 1:06:19.920 I would think, I hear my dad in my in 1:06:19.960 --> 1:06:24.680 my head because my dad's very frank, He's very uh 1:06:25.080 --> 1:06:28.400 very He was a very tough guy on me. You know, 1:06:28.440 --> 1:06:30.000 he's the type of guy that you know, i'd go, 1:06:30.120 --> 1:06:31.400 where are you in the birth order? 1:06:32.040 --> 1:06:35.080 I'm the middle, Okay, tough, I'm the middle. Okay. 1:06:35.280 --> 1:06:37.560 My brother was seven years older than me too. It's 1:06:37.680 --> 1:06:40.080 like a different family, different family. So he used to 1:06:40.120 --> 1:06:42.880 like just Wally Molly wop me. Wow. 1:06:43.160 --> 1:06:44.960 You know, so my sister's three years younger. 1:06:45.000 --> 1:06:46.360 But you know, he was. 1:06:46.520 --> 1:06:48.320 He was the type of guy that I'd go, I'd 1:06:48.320 --> 1:06:50.800 go work out and he'd come back and I'd. 1:06:50.640 --> 1:06:54.880 Be dying and he goes, you beat those three kids. 1:06:55.320 --> 1:06:55.720 I'm talking. 1:06:55.800 --> 1:06:58.360 I was working about myself. Dad, He doesn't you're in 1:06:58.400 --> 1:06:58.840 the NFL. 1:06:58.920 --> 1:07:02.600 Now, there's three kids in high school right now that 1:07:02.640 --> 1:07:04.760 are training and that have a picture of you on 1:07:04.800 --> 1:07:09.000 their wall. Wow, that are thinking about taking your job. Wow, 1:07:09.080 --> 1:07:12.320 they are thinking about taking your house. And I think, like, 1:07:12.360 --> 1:07:15.440 that's the kind of stuff. So I always whenever I 1:07:15.520 --> 1:07:17.600 lost my confidence, I would always just go back to 1:07:17.680 --> 1:07:20.680 fundamental work. Yeah, work my way out of it, and 1:07:20.760 --> 1:07:24.520 just try to stack good days together, you know, just 1:07:25.600 --> 1:07:28.880 you're either getting better or you're getting worse. Sure, and 1:07:30.320 --> 1:07:33.320 if you break everything down in your day to day, 1:07:33.360 --> 1:07:36.600 if you could stack five good days together and you 1:07:36.760 --> 1:07:38.880 just keep on competing with That's what I had to 1:07:38.920 --> 1:07:41.320 do for me. And I had to keep myself in 1:07:41.360 --> 1:07:44.720 a happily miserable mindset, Like I have this whole thing 1:07:44.760 --> 1:07:48.160 where we have this merch I sell. It's called happily miserable. Okay, 1:07:48.640 --> 1:07:51.480 because I was miserable, But I needed to be in 1:07:51.480 --> 1:07:52.800 that mindset. 1:07:52.480 --> 1:07:54.360 Yeah, the underdog mindset. 1:07:53.960 --> 1:07:59.320 The underdog mindset, the world's falling mindset. Like I needed 1:07:59.360 --> 1:08:03.360 that for me to hone in and keep my focus. Sure, 1:08:03.680 --> 1:08:06.960 you know, So work was always my my way to 1:08:07.000 --> 1:08:09.840 get my confidence back. And if you want to improve 1:08:09.880 --> 1:08:12.960 on something, you know, Belichick would always say this, if 1:08:13.000 --> 1:08:15.720 you want to improve, you can't just go work hard. Yeah, 1:08:15.840 --> 1:08:18.599 you can't just go run. You can't just go lift weights. 1:08:19.400 --> 1:08:23.400 Yeah you're you're working hard, but you need to find someone, 1:08:24.320 --> 1:08:28.880 a mentor coach, a person that can tell you what 1:08:28.960 --> 1:08:29.880 you need to work on. 1:08:30.680 --> 1:08:34.120 Yes, and then you work hard at that. Wow, And 1:08:34.160 --> 1:08:37.320 that's how Yeah, you know what I mean. So that's 1:08:37.360 --> 1:08:42.320 how Like that's really inspiring always. But are you able 1:08:42.360 --> 1:08:47.639 to turn it off? And are you able to one 1:08:47.680 --> 1:08:49.600 thing that I always have a hard time? Wasn't It 1:08:49.600 --> 1:08:52.360 reminds me of Bob Knight where he would I remember 1:08:52.400 --> 1:08:54.360 in that book I read The Season on the Brink, 1:08:54.600 --> 1:08:56.240 where he would yell at a player and he said, 1:08:56.240 --> 1:08:58.240 why do I want you to be a better player 1:08:58.560 --> 1:09:02.040 than you want to be? And so there are certain 1:09:02.080 --> 1:09:05.360 mindsets which are hard to be around, especially after they're 1:09:05.600 --> 1:09:08.880 they're not playing athletes, because they hold everybody to high 1:09:09.120 --> 1:09:12.719 such high expectations. And then Kyler pays for it and 1:09:12.760 --> 1:09:15.920 it's true and and you and we have to be 1:09:15.920 --> 1:09:19.320 cause I find that with my my wife sometimes because 1:09:19.320 --> 1:09:22.559 she has artistic pursuits, and I tell her how I 1:09:22.560 --> 1:09:25.800 would go about it, and she's like, stop trying to 1:09:25.840 --> 1:09:29.200 make me be you and. 1:09:28.640 --> 1:09:30.160 And let me enjoy this. 1:09:31.160 --> 1:09:34.720 It's it's it's interesting because we we have this, we 1:09:34.760 --> 1:09:38.519 have this discipline that worked for us, and and we 1:09:38.560 --> 1:09:39.880 want to impart it on people. 1:09:39.960 --> 1:09:42.680 But it can be very off putting. I talked to 1:09:42.720 --> 1:09:44.040 my dad about that all the time. 1:09:44.160 --> 1:09:47.439 Yeah, you know, because I have like small businesses and 1:09:48.160 --> 1:09:52.280 you're managing people, and and I go to the factor 1:09:52.360 --> 1:09:55.920 of like how I was managed, Yeah, for twelve years 1:09:55.960 --> 1:10:00.760 of my life, right, and it was so successful beyond dreams, 1:10:00.920 --> 1:10:02.320 beyond dreams. Yeah. 1:10:02.880 --> 1:10:05.599 And I was never told the things I did well 1:10:06.760 --> 1:10:10.040 I was expected to, right, I was only told the 1:10:10.080 --> 1:10:11.280 things I needed to work on. 1:10:11.479 --> 1:10:15.080 Yeah, you know. And I and my dad's actually he's 1:10:15.560 --> 1:10:18.000 he's very similar to me. He's small business owners, so 1:10:18.000 --> 1:10:20.200 he's had a lot of experience with people. 1:10:20.920 --> 1:10:21.679 Was he athletic. 1:10:22.000 --> 1:10:24.000 He was, but his dad. 1:10:23.760 --> 1:10:26.120 Died when he was three, and his mom, you know, 1:10:26.320 --> 1:10:28.160 she was in and out of marriages. He grew up 1:10:28.160 --> 1:10:31.920 in a trailer park, so he became a mechanic. At fourteen. 1:10:32.439 --> 1:10:35.160 He had to help wow, help help out my mom, wow, Grandma. 1:10:35.320 --> 1:10:38.800 So he always talks me, you know, he always kind 1:10:38.800 --> 1:10:42.519 of lets me know that you can't live like what 1:10:42.560 --> 1:10:46.240 you're saying. You can't. You have to turn that off. Yes, yeah, 1:10:46.360 --> 1:10:48.120 you know what I mean. And it's and it's hard 1:10:48.160 --> 1:10:52.400 for me because I'm still transitioning, yeah, from something I've 1:10:52.439 --> 1:10:57.280 been doing for two decades, three decades, yeah. 1:10:56.920 --> 1:10:58.560 You know. And it's been like that since I was 1:10:58.600 --> 1:11:01.120 eight years old. Yeah, and it's changed when you get 1:11:01.120 --> 1:11:03.000 to be a professional and then it's all football. 1:11:03.040 --> 1:11:06.800 You don't have school anymore. You have football school, you know. Yeah. 1:11:06.880 --> 1:11:09.479 So like I mean, that's it's a part of life, 1:11:09.600 --> 1:11:11.720 is learning what you have to do to improve. And 1:11:11.800 --> 1:11:14.360 my dad's a good person that helps him with that. 1:11:14.439 --> 1:11:17.519 But I definitely need to be able to turn it off, sure, 1:11:18.040 --> 1:11:20.320 you know. And when you have a kid, it helps 1:11:20.320 --> 1:11:22.719 you with that, you know. My dad was a hard ass. 1:11:22.760 --> 1:11:24.920 My dad was very tough on me because that's what 1:11:25.040 --> 1:11:26.720 dads were like back and he didn't have any he 1:11:26.720 --> 1:11:29.320 didn't have anyone. Yeah, who would have trained him? Yeah, 1:11:29.439 --> 1:11:33.280 you know so, but he's now the complete opposite now 1:11:34.000 --> 1:11:38.320 now he's the softy. Are you hungry your grandfather? Yeah? 1:11:38.360 --> 1:11:40.479 Do you need anything. That's so nice. 1:11:41.040 --> 1:11:44.599 Oh look, let me let me rub your feet, like literally, 1:11:44.800 --> 1:11:45.479 that's great. 1:11:45.880 --> 1:11:49.880 So wow. I mean the pride he must have though, Well, 1:11:49.920 --> 1:11:50.360 it was a. 1:11:50.320 --> 1:11:54.280 Team effort my mom as well. You know, she's a 1:11:54.280 --> 1:11:55.240 stubborn little lady. 1:11:55.479 --> 1:11:57.960 But that's a special thing for mead to have a 1:11:58.000 --> 1:12:02.519 son who els areas. Yeah. My dad, uh, he was 1:12:02.520 --> 1:12:05.680 a huge part of it. Sure, no, I know, yeah. 1:12:05.520 --> 1:12:07.639 My dad's kind of like a Jewish mother. 1:12:08.880 --> 1:12:09.719 That's so cool. 1:12:09.960 --> 1:12:12.840 Literally, that's great. You know, nothing's ever good enough, but 1:12:12.880 --> 1:12:13.920 he's always comforting me. 1:12:14.160 --> 1:12:17.240 Yeah. Oh that's so nice. Oh my gosh. But in 1:12:17.240 --> 1:12:18.439 the same twisted kind of thing. 1:12:18.520 --> 1:12:21.080 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh that's interesting. 1:12:21.280 --> 1:12:24.880 Yeah. I was watching your stand up. Your mom cracks 1:12:24.920 --> 1:12:28.080 me up. Oh thanks man. Yeah, she's she's just quite hard. 1:12:28.280 --> 1:12:34.080 She really is a sweetheart's quite depression. Yeah, he's smiles 1:12:34.120 --> 1:12:36.760 the whole Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. She didn't never met 1:12:36.760 --> 1:12:40.800 a happier kid. Yeah. And then I held up this 1:12:40.840 --> 1:12:43.479 book called The Lonely Yeah yeah, yeah. 1:12:43.280 --> 1:12:46.679 The Lonely Trade. She's just the level of denial. 1:12:46.800 --> 1:12:50.599 But nobody understood back then, nobody knew so I I yeah, 1:12:50.600 --> 1:12:53.960 it's a product of that generation. Yes, exactly exactly, and 1:12:54.000 --> 1:12:57.040 we didn't have that relationship with our parents like kids 1:12:57.080 --> 1:12:59.040 do today where they can go to them and say, listen, 1:12:59.080 --> 1:13:01.760 I feel this way. If you were bullied, you kept 1:13:01.800 --> 1:13:03.559 that to yourself unless there was something you could do 1:13:03.600 --> 1:13:06.360 about it. So yeah, yeah, or try to figure out 1:13:06.360 --> 1:13:08.880 a way to solve these things by yourself, because they 1:13:08.880 --> 1:13:12.120 were working so hard, especially as single mom is is 1:13:12.200 --> 1:13:16.880 just this interesting warrior in America that or on the 1:13:16.920 --> 1:13:20.160 planet that they just have to have to get by 1:13:20.240 --> 1:13:23.520 and they don't have a lot of time for nonsense. 1:13:23.640 --> 1:13:26.160 So that's when my dad always tells me when. 1:13:26.200 --> 1:13:28.080 Yeah, Dad, I'm stressed out. You know a lot of 1:13:28.080 --> 1:13:32.000 shit going on. Yeah, you don't know what stresses I know, 1:13:32.400 --> 1:13:34.240 I go, what what are you talking about? 1:13:34.280 --> 1:13:36.639 Dad? I got you know, a lot of shit going Yeah, 1:13:36.720 --> 1:13:39.960 you know what stresses. It's when you have three deaf kids, 1:13:40.560 --> 1:13:43.040 fifty dollars in your bank account with two hundred dollars 1:13:43.040 --> 1:13:45.559 in bills. Wow, that's who my grandma was. My dad 1:13:45.560 --> 1:13:48.320 has three deaf brothers and sisters. Oh I didn't know that. 1:13:48.400 --> 1:13:48.719 Yeah. 1:13:48.760 --> 1:13:52.200 So and he's like significantly younger, but yeah, you know, 1:13:52.439 --> 1:13:55.120 he goes that's stress, and that's a single. Mom. 1:13:55.360 --> 1:13:59.840 Is your grandmother still alive? No, she passed, all right, Mary, Mary, 1:14:00.320 --> 1:14:03.200 God love her. She was the best. 1:14:03.439 --> 1:14:07.320 Yeah, let's get back to the old football then. Yeah, 1:14:07.520 --> 1:14:09.360 she had a tear over here and thinking about grandma. 1:14:09.479 --> 1:14:11.080 Yeah, I have one quick question, and I think one 1:14:11.120 --> 1:14:13.280 of your specials you mentioned your mom would go to 1:14:13.320 --> 1:14:15.240 a dentistry school to get her teeth done. 1:14:15.320 --> 1:14:16.559 Yeah, that's my newest special. 1:14:16.680 --> 1:14:17.320 Does that be you? 1:14:17.640 --> 1:14:19.320 The Boston University School of Dentistry. 1:14:19.400 --> 1:14:20.479 My grandma did the same thing. 1:14:20.560 --> 1:14:23.440 Really, Oh my gosh, that's incredible. 1:14:23.479 --> 1:14:24.479 And it was a nightmare. 1:14:24.560 --> 1:14:27.960 Yeah, it was. Yeah, teeth were these poor people couldn't 1:14:27.960 --> 1:14:31.280 afford dentistry. So our family, my mom had a lot 1:14:31.320 --> 1:14:33.120 of dental work. She would go to a school that 1:14:33.200 --> 1:14:36.360 had a school of university that had a school of dentistry, 1:14:36.400 --> 1:14:39.479 and these kids would take their mid terms, but it 1:14:39.520 --> 1:14:41.960 was my mother's my mother's bridge work and her and 1:14:42.000 --> 1:14:46.360 her molars and things, and they they weren't competent and 1:14:46.400 --> 1:14:49.400 she would be in great pain. And and that's what 1:14:49.400 --> 1:14:52.040 we had to do. Was really I feel for her, man, 1:14:52.240 --> 1:14:54.160 it was. And the other thing was we would have 1:14:54.200 --> 1:14:58.320 to drive into Boston, which was poor people have cars 1:14:58.320 --> 1:15:00.880 that don't work, so sometimes we break down. Would just 1:15:00.920 --> 1:15:02.880 be on the side of the road waiting for a 1:15:02.920 --> 1:15:05.720 triple A to come, and it was just, oh man, 1:15:05.760 --> 1:15:08.160 it was a it was a nightmare. 1:15:09.080 --> 1:15:10.320 That was before the big dig. 1:15:10.479 --> 1:15:13.920 We'd go over this thing called thest the Mystic, the 1:15:13.960 --> 1:15:17.479 Mystic River bridge, which everybody would call the Mystic River. 1:15:17.680 --> 1:15:20.360 We're going over the Mystic River and and I was like, 1:15:20.360 --> 1:15:21.760 who is this, mister river? 1:15:22.080 --> 1:15:25.880 And she was a Mystic river? The river We're driving 1:15:25.920 --> 1:15:29.280 over it to go into Boston. And you had to 1:15:29.320 --> 1:15:31.400 save up money to pay for parking. I remember that 1:15:31.520 --> 1:15:33.320 was part of it. Yeah. 1:15:33.600 --> 1:15:40.439 They on the pike when I was there. Yeah, the traffic. 1:15:40.600 --> 1:15:43.120 Yeah, and these four people who worked in the tobos 1:15:43.200 --> 1:15:45.679 were just miss miserable. Oh my gosh. 1:15:45.840 --> 1:15:49.720 But there's sweaters though, that Mass Pike sweater I love. 1:15:50.200 --> 1:15:52.200 I did love those. Oh my gosh, I would love 1:15:52.280 --> 1:15:52.840 one of those. 1:15:53.439 --> 1:15:53.960 Amazing. 1:15:55.920 --> 1:15:59.479 Tyler is an absolute delight, the whole staff here. 1:16:00.400 --> 1:16:03.479 I really enjoy you people, We enjoy you. 1:16:03.720 --> 1:16:06.479 Thank you. I really appreci I was hoping I was doing. 1:16:06.240 --> 1:16:08.439 A good job. Now you're doing killing it all right. 1:16:08.960 --> 1:16:11.880 Dann Marino the best to never win a Super Bowl. 1:16:12.680 --> 1:16:17.080 Who else are we thinking about in terms of I've 1:16:17.120 --> 1:16:21.280 got some names, Sanders, Barry, Sanders, Moss. Yeah, maybe the 1:16:21.280 --> 1:16:23.320 greatest quarterback to never won a Super Bowl? 1:16:23.360 --> 1:16:25.920 Is that possible? Although Jim Kelly was great, but he 1:16:25.960 --> 1:16:27.520 was better than Jim Kelly. 1:16:27.760 --> 1:16:31.680 Jim Kelly was. Man, That's that's a sad story. I 1:16:31.760 --> 1:16:33.240 know it's heartbreaking. 1:16:33.439 --> 1:16:34.759 I thought you're gonna say the cancer. 1:16:36.479 --> 1:16:39.200 Yeah that too, that too, I probably take the dip 1:16:39.200 --> 1:16:39.840 out of my lip. 1:16:41.640 --> 1:16:46.439 Also Junior, se Bruce Smith, Ladanyan Thomas, and philp Rivers. 1:16:47.280 --> 1:16:49.920 I forgot I played with you. He was a very 1:16:49.960 --> 1:16:50.799 special person. 1:16:50.920 --> 1:16:56.040 He was the nicest guy in the world. Yes, Like 1:16:57.520 --> 1:17:00.160 I remember he We were at Capitol Grill. 1:17:00.400 --> 1:17:02.120 My parents just came in. We were about to play 1:17:02.120 --> 1:17:03.800 in a playoff game, and I was taking him out 1:17:03.800 --> 1:17:07.960 to dinner on a Friday. This is in December maybe January, 1:17:08.840 --> 1:17:13.479 so it's freezing outside. Yeah, Junior rolls up in flip flops, 1:17:13.760 --> 1:17:16.920 shorts and he always wore this hat and his ukulelely 1:17:17.040 --> 1:17:17.559 on his back. 1:17:17.720 --> 1:17:20.280 Seriously serious because he used to be the Capitol girl. 1:17:20.520 --> 1:17:21.240 Every you know. 1:17:21.400 --> 1:17:24.040 That was his flip flops. Flip flops but Hawaiian. 1:17:24.320 --> 1:17:27.320 Yeah, he grew up in the tropics and he wasn't 1:17:27.360 --> 1:17:28.960 bothered by the mountains. 1:17:29.000 --> 1:17:32.040 This dud was the most manly man ever. Wow, manly 1:17:32.120 --> 1:17:35.840 man but soft hearted too. Yes, that's the way he 1:17:35.920 --> 1:17:38.120 came off. And he and he went up to my 1:17:38.240 --> 1:17:40.880 parents and we grew up in the Bay Area. There's 1:17:40.920 --> 1:17:44.599 a lot of Polynesian culture, so I grew up with 1:17:44.640 --> 1:17:46.640 a lot of Tongueans, a lot of Samoans, a lot 1:17:46.640 --> 1:17:49.000 of Hawaiians like that was part of my football team 1:17:49.040 --> 1:17:52.000 and my football life. Oh that's cool. So Junior sayou 1:17:52.200 --> 1:17:56.600 was a god like in California. Sure, because he was 1:17:56.640 --> 1:17:58.800 on the Chargers. He did, you know, the whole was 1:17:58.840 --> 1:18:02.280 a usc guy too, you sc guy. And you know 1:18:02.360 --> 1:18:03.639 I got to play with him. 1:18:03.640 --> 1:18:06.479 And he came up to my parents and he and 1:18:06.640 --> 1:18:08.719 he and he goes, mister and mister Edelman. 1:18:08.800 --> 1:18:12.439 I just want to say, you raised a very great 1:18:12.520 --> 1:18:15.040 young man play a long time in this league. And 1:18:15.040 --> 1:18:16.120 this was when I was a rookie and I was 1:18:16.160 --> 1:18:19.720 still wow. Yeah, it's incredible to have Junior say out 1:18:19.720 --> 1:18:22.479 come and my dad, you know, he's all shy and 1:18:22.479 --> 1:18:25.280 stuff like, yeah, watch this guy for a long time. 1:18:25.320 --> 1:18:27.760 This was his twentieth year in the league. Yeah, by 1:18:27.800 --> 1:18:29.759 the time I was playing with them. But I remember 1:18:29.800 --> 1:18:32.280 you stood out in the preseason. You were very promising 1:18:32.640 --> 1:18:35.519 link financial that was that was a big game. 1:18:35.800 --> 1:18:38.360 Yeah, because it was Tom's first game back from the 1:18:38.360 --> 1:18:39.599 a c L. That's right. 1:18:40.080 --> 1:18:43.920 Wes wasn't playing, That's right, My first game in the NFL. 1:18:44.240 --> 1:18:48.280 My word, any nerves, Oh so nice. I was very nervous. 1:18:48.479 --> 1:18:51.679 I was a very nervous. Yeah, because I cared so much, 1:18:51.800 --> 1:18:52.640 of course. 1:18:52.400 --> 1:18:55.360 Yeah, you know you get yeah, and so much was 1:18:55.360 --> 1:18:57.240 was you were so invested. 1:18:56.880 --> 1:19:00.280 So invested, and yeah, especially in that you know, you're 1:19:00.280 --> 1:19:03.200 playing for your job. Yeah, seventh round draft pick. Yeah, 1:19:03.560 --> 1:19:07.400 first preseason game. Yeah, well, didn't play, so they started 1:19:07.439 --> 1:19:09.360 me and they told me like right before the game. 1:19:09.560 --> 1:19:11.720 So it was kind of like it they test you psychologically. 1:19:11.760 --> 1:19:13.800 I want to see if you can. Yeah, you know, 1:19:13.920 --> 1:19:16.360 Kenny handle that we're gonna tell him twenty minutes before 1:19:16.360 --> 1:19:19.080 the game that he's gonna have to you know, because 1:19:19.080 --> 1:19:20.519 a lot of guys can't and they want to see 1:19:20.560 --> 1:19:22.439 it in the preseason of course, you know. 1:19:22.520 --> 1:19:24.439 And first play it was a kickoff. 1:19:24.479 --> 1:19:26.120 I went down, I made a tackle and they put 1:19:26.120 --> 1:19:29.400 me on a kickoff that day went made a tackle. 1:19:30.120 --> 1:19:32.120 Then the first punt return I took to the house, 1:19:34.080 --> 1:19:36.240 and then the first play. 1:19:37.400 --> 1:19:40.759 Did you think you were dreaming? I did, right, because 1:19:40.800 --> 1:19:43.080 I have I still have dreams where I where I 1:19:43.120 --> 1:19:47.000 score touchdowns that and to do that on that level 1:19:47.280 --> 1:19:50.200 because it's more competitive, my word, I can't imagine. 1:19:50.439 --> 1:19:52.920 You don't really know either when you're in camp. Yeah, 1:19:53.200 --> 1:19:55.120 there's a lot of thud. You're not taking to the ground. 1:19:55.120 --> 1:19:56.920 It's not like college or you know. 1:19:57.160 --> 1:19:57.439 A hit. 1:19:58.439 --> 1:20:01.599 But if Hard Knocks has show on us anything, it's 1:20:01.640 --> 1:20:05.200 that you might get cut even after having an incredible game. 1:20:05.360 --> 1:20:09.760 Yeah wow, yeah, all right, continue, I'm sorry, no, but 1:20:10.080 --> 1:20:12.760 it was just you score that and then you run 1:20:12.800 --> 1:20:14.280 back that the touchdown, and then. 1:20:14.120 --> 1:20:16.400 It was Brady's first game, so everyone was kind of 1:20:16.400 --> 1:20:21.480 like very nervous because you know, the knee thing. Yeah, 1:20:21.520 --> 1:20:24.320 and every like everyone's kind of on eggshells. Bill wanted 1:20:24.360 --> 1:20:26.560 to see our how we were playing, They wanted he 1:20:26.600 --> 1:20:29.920 wanted to see how Tommy was psychologically, because when you 1:20:29.920 --> 1:20:33.679 go through injury, that first live contact, when you're getting 1:20:33.680 --> 1:20:37.479 real bullets, it's different. You know, sometimes you you don't 1:20:37.479 --> 1:20:37.760 want to. 1:20:37.720 --> 1:20:39.080 Stick your foot and you know there's a lot of 1:20:40.439 --> 1:20:41.880 it goes back to the eye of the tiger. 1:20:42.280 --> 1:20:45.080 The tiger first play gives me the swing route. He 1:20:45.120 --> 1:20:48.080 throws me a little swing. I caught his first ball. 1:20:48.160 --> 1:20:50.080 I'm like, this is awesome, this is easy. 1:20:50.960 --> 1:20:54.400 Really. I ended up having a bunch of catches, and 1:20:54.520 --> 1:20:57.320 you know, I had a good game. And next week 1:20:57.520 --> 1:20:59.960 there is something to the ignorance of the brand new 1:21:00.200 --> 1:21:01.160 right where you don't know it. 1:21:02.439 --> 1:21:06.360 You know, next week it's against Atlanta and I'm still 1:21:06.400 --> 1:21:09.080 like on the verge of making the team like a 1:21:09.080 --> 1:21:10.719 house to punt. And I had a lot of production 1:21:10.800 --> 1:21:12.400 in the first game. I had a tackle. 1:21:12.720 --> 1:21:16.200 Yeah, but like we had like Randy Moss Wes Welker 1:21:16.280 --> 1:21:18.240 trying to galloway like there's. 1:21:18.040 --> 1:21:21.840 A numbers, but how many gays are on the team. Yeah. 1:21:22.240 --> 1:21:25.920 And so the next week I go and I'm returning 1:21:25.920 --> 1:21:28.400 to punt and I shake off a guy and another 1:21:28.439 --> 1:21:31.439 guy comes in and he my foot gets caught and 1:21:31.479 --> 1:21:33.439 I sprained my ink. I get a high end sprain. 1:21:33.680 --> 1:21:36.720 The worst first play the first play that I got 1:21:36.720 --> 1:21:39.200 in and I was out for three weeks. And now 1:21:39.200 --> 1:21:42.559 it's during cut, Yeah, and I'm sitting there stressed out, 1:21:42.600 --> 1:21:44.880 like I don't know if I had enough. You know, 1:21:44.920 --> 1:21:48.040 it's short term memory with guy. That was four weeks. Yeah, 1:21:48.160 --> 1:21:51.519 next up. And you know, Billy O'Brien was our o 1:21:51.680 --> 1:21:53.759 C at the time. I knew him in high school. 1:21:53.800 --> 1:21:55.880 You know, did you he went to Saint John's Prep. 1:21:56.080 --> 1:21:59.280 How was he? Can I tell the truth? Yes, he 1:21:59.360 --> 1:22:02.799 was an arrogant prick. He's an arrogant prick in high school. 1:22:03.360 --> 1:22:06.599 I mean, billios a fiery guy. I just he went 1:22:06.840 --> 1:22:09.160 Here's the thing. I went to the public school. He 1:22:09.200 --> 1:22:11.680 went to the private school same times preps. So I 1:22:11.720 --> 1:22:14.439 resented him to begin with, and then when he wasn't 1:22:14.439 --> 1:22:16.000 friendly to me, I was like, fuck this guy. 1:22:16.240 --> 1:22:18.120 No, yeah, he can come on. We used to call 1:22:18.200 --> 1:22:18.920 him te Kettle. 1:22:19.160 --> 1:22:21.559 But I knew his wife in college. I was friends 1:22:21.560 --> 1:22:25.080 with Colleen, who was the sweetest woman. So I'm I'm 1:22:25.120 --> 1:22:26.920 talking about how he was in high school, which a 1:22:26.920 --> 1:22:30.760 lot of football players are high school so I'm sure 1:22:30.760 --> 1:22:36.800 he changed. But what was it? Okay, all right, he's 1:22:36.840 --> 1:22:39.240 like that ass while you like, yeah, yeah, no, of course, 1:22:39.360 --> 1:22:41.640 of course I will say this. I respected him, and 1:22:41.680 --> 1:22:43.280 I knew how hard he worked as a as a 1:22:43.520 --> 1:22:45.599 player because he went to Brown. Yeah, and then he 1:22:45.680 --> 1:22:47.519 was a smart guy and he was serious. So I 1:22:48.120 --> 1:22:51.360 liked that, but I I just I don't know. It's 1:22:51.400 --> 1:22:56.839 probably two uh teenage two teenage boys who were like yeah, yeah, 1:22:56.880 --> 1:22:59.560 but we had a mutual friend who played with me 1:22:59.600 --> 1:23:02.240 at Bosson in college that this guy Mike Panos, who 1:23:02.439 --> 1:23:04.599 I don't know if you are, if you met him, 1:23:04.600 --> 1:23:08.160 you'd remember him. He's very charming. Anyhow, So you're in 1:23:08.320 --> 1:23:11.080 camp and oh, yeah, a three week injury. 1:23:10.800 --> 1:23:12.320 And he comes up to me, and the whole week 1:23:12.360 --> 1:23:15.600 of because cut day is there's a Friday, and then 1:23:15.600 --> 1:23:18.280 there's a week off. Yeah, where you establish a team 1:23:18.320 --> 1:23:21.240 and it's like the turks in there just taking lives, 1:23:22.200 --> 1:23:25.040 you know, which wants to see you get your playbook, 1:23:25.760 --> 1:23:27.639 you know that. Like you're sitting in the locker room 1:23:27.640 --> 1:23:31.000 and guys are just getting plucked. Of course, so you know, 1:23:31.040 --> 1:23:34.520 Billy Owould was messing with me like, hey, her Buffalo's 1:23:34.520 --> 1:23:37.639 got a good third corner, meaning like I was making 1:23:37.640 --> 1:23:39.559 the team, yeah, but I don't know if you're making 1:23:39.560 --> 1:23:41.880 the team yet. And I was sitting there like I'm 1:23:41.920 --> 1:23:44.920 like a little kid twenty two years old. Yeah, And 1:23:45.000 --> 1:23:47.000 finally I went home and I was sitting there by 1:23:47.000 --> 1:23:48.680 my phone the whole time, because they'll still call you 1:23:48.720 --> 1:23:49.040 when you go. 1:23:49.160 --> 1:23:52.479 Yeah, and they never got the call. Amazing, So how 1:23:52.479 --> 1:23:54.920 did you find out that just by kno getting a call, 1:23:55.040 --> 1:23:58.400 that's the worst. That's how that's worse. Yeah, at least 1:23:58.400 --> 1:24:01.839 call me tell me making it totally. No, they don't. Wow, 1:24:02.000 --> 1:24:04.400 you just come in and you just was there anybody 1:24:04.400 --> 1:24:06.559 who was the opposite of that, who was saying keep 1:24:06.600 --> 1:24:09.719 doing what you're doing. I remember my friend Mike Power 1:24:10.400 --> 1:24:13.800 was in the Houston Oilers and Warren Moon took him 1:24:13.880 --> 1:24:16.360 under his wing and said, you keep making those out 1:24:16.479 --> 1:24:19.920 passes because nobody else can make those ones the sideline 1:24:20.520 --> 1:24:23.160 from the pocket, and you keep making those, you're going 1:24:23.240 --> 1:24:25.439 to stand out. And so he made it very far 1:24:25.479 --> 1:24:28.519 in the in the cuts. But was there anybody who 1:24:28.560 --> 1:24:29.040 was like that? 1:24:29.400 --> 1:24:33.240 Fred Taylor really or Fred Taylor? Yeah, of course. So 1:24:33.760 --> 1:24:36.600 I didn't have a car yet. You know there'd be 1:24:36.640 --> 1:24:41.479 a for training camp, there'd be a six o'clock bus 1:24:41.720 --> 1:24:46.360 you could take from the team hotel Okay to the stadium. 1:24:47.120 --> 1:24:49.519 And so I'm sitting on my on the curb waiting 1:24:49.560 --> 1:24:52.440 for the bus and Freddie t rolled out and he 1:24:52.479 --> 1:24:55.160 has a cool old like dope car. He's like, yo, 1:24:55.200 --> 1:24:58.080 a young buck, come with me nice and he brings 1:24:58.120 --> 1:24:59.599 me in there and you can see he could see 1:24:59.600 --> 1:25:01.760 that I'm straight because it's such day to day. There 1:25:01.800 --> 1:25:03.840 was two practices a day when I first started, you 1:25:03.880 --> 1:25:06.479 have double days. You had run game in the morning 1:25:06.520 --> 1:25:10.080 passing the afternoon. So you have like two practices that 1:25:10.120 --> 1:25:12.880 you're thinking about going into the next day, you know, 1:25:12.920 --> 1:25:15.519 because you have to correct everything. Am I gonna get cut? 1:25:15.600 --> 1:25:18.559 I didn't make that block, I didn't make that this. Yeah, 1:25:18.680 --> 1:25:22.120 So he could see that I was going through my head. 1:25:22.160 --> 1:25:24.120 I was, you know, And he's in a different part 1:25:24.160 --> 1:25:26.640 of his career where you know, listen is he's on 1:25:26.640 --> 1:25:30.920 the back nine. He's already a superstar. And he gets 1:25:30.960 --> 1:25:32.559 me in the car and he goes, hey, young buck, 1:25:32.760 --> 1:25:35.000 there's a lot of ups, there's a lot of downs. 1:25:35.960 --> 1:25:38.360 You just gotta be smoon, You'll be all right. Wow, 1:25:38.520 --> 1:25:41.920 it's all he said. He's a very very made a 1:25:41.960 --> 1:25:44.400 few words. Yeah that's all he said. And then we 1:25:44.479 --> 1:25:47.320 sat and he started taking me to practice a bunch 1:25:47.360 --> 1:25:50.160 and you know, but that's what I thought about, like, 1:25:50.200 --> 1:25:52.280 all right, I don't get too high on the highs, 1:25:52.320 --> 1:25:54.200 don't get too low on the low, Yes, is kind of. 1:25:54.800 --> 1:25:57.840 But but there's something about somebody with your personality and 1:25:58.560 --> 1:26:01.639 drive and humility that people want to look out for 1:26:02.080 --> 1:26:05.600 because you're that makes for a good teammate and and 1:26:05.760 --> 1:26:07.599 for a good person in the locker room to hang 1:26:07.640 --> 1:26:09.960 around with somebody who's not going to be an ego 1:26:10.520 --> 1:26:14.160 and and so that's a that's a really great lesson. 1:26:14.360 --> 1:26:16.439 And you want to be that. You want to be 1:26:16.520 --> 1:26:17.960 the for the rest of your life. You want to 1:26:17.960 --> 1:26:20.800 be the Fred Taylor to somebody's Julian Adaman. 1:26:20.520 --> 1:26:22.479 Well and that and that's you know, there were other 1:26:22.560 --> 1:26:26.599 players on the team, you know that weren't like that, sure, 1:26:26.680 --> 1:26:27.479 because you know this is. 1:26:27.600 --> 1:26:30.720 Blood, blood work. No, of course there's guys there like, hey, 1:26:30.720 --> 1:26:33.040 you're here to take a spot. Yeah, that wouldn't help. 1:26:33.160 --> 1:26:35.360 And yeah, that's once I got to where I was 1:26:35.400 --> 1:26:40.160 at and I and I established a role and had 1:26:40.200 --> 1:26:43.360 some success, I'd always be tough with the young guys 1:26:43.360 --> 1:26:47.280 because that was when I got there. Everyone the whole 1:26:47.320 --> 1:26:51.800 Patriot way was like making guys accountable, right. 1:26:51.760 --> 1:26:53.320 Yeah, of course you're doing them a favor. 1:26:53.680 --> 1:26:56.599 You see, you see Teddy Bruski working his dick off, 1:26:57.280 --> 1:27:00.360 and if you're not. He's going to tell you you're not. Wow. 1:27:00.520 --> 1:27:03.560 If you hear that from him, you're gonna be humiliated 1:27:03.560 --> 1:27:05.280 the whole day. Wow, you know what I mean? 1:27:05.360 --> 1:27:07.679 So, like, yeah, I would handle it where I would 1:27:07.720 --> 1:27:10.000 call guys out, but I would always pull him the side, 1:27:10.080 --> 1:27:12.720 like Jacobe Myers, like he would always have. 1:27:12.840 --> 1:27:15.479 He was you know, he was a young player. You know, 1:27:15.520 --> 1:27:18.840 he was an undrafted guy and I saw that he 1:27:18.880 --> 1:27:21.240 could play. Yeah, he just needed you know. Like, so 1:27:21.280 --> 1:27:23.719 I would always bring him the side, and I'm like, yo, yeah, 1:27:23.840 --> 1:27:26.320 don't worry about that they're bitching on this. You just 1:27:26.360 --> 1:27:28.360 gotta do this, you know what I mean, because you 1:27:28.479 --> 1:27:31.360 know what he's going through. But if there's some little 1:27:31.439 --> 1:27:35.320 arrogant asshole, yeah, of course, yeah. You know there was 1:27:35.360 --> 1:27:38.439 a few of those, right say, bro, yeah, coach, don't 1:27:38.439 --> 1:27:41.519 ask you a question, don't fucking talk in the room. 1:27:41.720 --> 1:27:42.559 Wow, you know what I mean. 1:27:43.240 --> 1:27:45.320 Let us get our work in yea, because there's some 1:27:45.360 --> 1:27:48.200 guys that are trying to be hands up coach. Yeah, 1:27:48.240 --> 1:27:52.280 you know, like you do that, you're kind of showing 1:27:52.280 --> 1:27:56.680 off the other rookie that probably doesn't know what's going on, 1:27:57.400 --> 1:28:00.439 calling out to me. You're doing good. Because he ain't 1:28:00.479 --> 1:28:05.040 doing Oh wow, there's a whole dynamic in Yes, yeah, 1:28:05.160 --> 1:28:08.080 that's fascinating. Anyone take you under your wing during comedy? 1:28:08.520 --> 1:28:10.800 Oh yeah, there were there were so many, so many 1:28:11.000 --> 1:28:14.880 older guys and and even now, I mean, i've he's 1:28:14.920 --> 1:28:17.479 not that much older than me. But but jud Apatow 1:28:17.520 --> 1:28:20.880 has been such a great mentoring guide. I remember after 1:28:20.960 --> 1:28:24.240 my special airity called me up and he said, you're 1:28:24.240 --> 1:28:27.840 feeling hungover right now, like like let down and what 1:28:27.880 --> 1:28:30.680 else is there? And he said, Uh, you can get 1:28:30.760 --> 1:28:33.800 right out there and try to do even better and 1:28:34.000 --> 1:28:36.040 chase that high all over again. 1:28:36.120 --> 1:28:36.599 But it's a. 1:28:36.560 --> 1:28:39.400 Treadmill that you'll never get off of the only thing 1:28:39.439 --> 1:28:42.519 that we really have that's real is is our friends 1:28:42.560 --> 1:28:46.360 and our colleagues in this and our families and and 1:28:46.600 --> 1:28:51.320 chasing after fame and and that lifestyle is is a 1:28:51.360 --> 1:28:54.160 dead end. And I remember that was so helpful because 1:28:54.160 --> 1:28:56.360 I I didn't think there was anybody else who could 1:28:56.360 --> 1:29:00.320 have said that, you're feeling off after some things so 1:29:00.439 --> 1:29:02.800 great happening on HBO and the premiere and all the 1:29:02.840 --> 1:29:06.719 promotion that you do in the interviews, and somebody saying 1:29:06.920 --> 1:29:09.960 and you don't feel that good, right now when everybody's 1:29:09.960 --> 1:29:13.200 telling you should feel so good, that's normal, and don't 1:29:13.240 --> 1:29:15.720 try to feel good right away. You don't have to 1:29:15.760 --> 1:29:18.519 outdo yourself. You just have to continue to do whatever 1:29:18.600 --> 1:29:21.639 you do to get out of bed and work hard 1:29:21.680 --> 1:29:24.880 every day. But you don't have to to please the world. 1:29:24.920 --> 1:29:29.360 And and sort of there's this thing with with fame, 1:29:29.400 --> 1:29:32.200 and I have friends who are who are involved in 1:29:33.040 --> 1:29:35.200 just having to stoke that fire all the time and 1:29:35.280 --> 1:29:39.240 keeping the public eye and it's relentless, and it's it's 1:29:39.560 --> 1:29:41.280 you have to have a really strong head on your 1:29:41.280 --> 1:29:44.280 shoulders to be able to maintain your integrity and your 1:29:44.320 --> 1:29:48.599 personality through that. And I've heard it compared to looking 1:29:48.760 --> 1:29:51.519 straight into I think Tom Hanks said, fame, you don't 1:29:51.520 --> 1:29:52.439 want to look at right. 1:29:52.320 --> 1:29:55.080 In the eye, like like the sun. It can burn 1:29:55.160 --> 1:29:55.640 damage you. 1:29:55.720 --> 1:29:59.000 And I remember this this author that like John Updyke, 1:29:59.080 --> 1:30:03.439 said that this this fame is this mask that changes 1:30:03.479 --> 1:30:06.840 your face or burns your face or something like that. 1:30:06.920 --> 1:30:09.240 And it's a yeah, it's it's it's. 1:30:09.080 --> 1:30:13.320 A double edged sworded it affords us these incredible opportunities, 1:30:13.640 --> 1:30:16.360 but it can also be poisonous. It can be and 1:30:17.479 --> 1:30:20.840 I can I can relate to that from when you 1:30:20.880 --> 1:30:21.840 know we. 1:30:21.720 --> 1:30:25.120 Go out when Super Bowls. Yeah, like my close group 1:30:25.200 --> 1:30:27.599 around me. Yeah, like I you know, you have your 1:30:27.640 --> 1:30:31.439 people that or that see the real you always because 1:30:31.479 --> 1:30:33.960 you know when you go when when you're a person 1:30:34.040 --> 1:30:37.360 under a microscope, you're you're having to be on always. Yeah, 1:30:38.040 --> 1:30:40.120 especially when you leave the house for anyone you're at 1:30:40.160 --> 1:30:44.120 the gas station and ask you this. But I would 1:30:44.120 --> 1:30:46.679 get into these like we would call it the super 1:30:46.680 --> 1:30:52.600 Bowl saddies, Oh wow, because you go all year yeah, 1:30:52.720 --> 1:30:58.519 and for that one goal, and you would achieve that 1:30:58.600 --> 1:31:02.280 goal and like you're already thinking about the next year, 1:31:02.920 --> 1:31:05.200 how much harder it's going to be to a team 1:31:05.200 --> 1:31:09.760 that goal again because whenever you have success, now you're 1:31:09.960 --> 1:31:13.160 America's most wanted. Yeah, they're going to play their hardest. 1:31:13.240 --> 1:31:16.000 There's a lot more studying going into your game. The 1:31:16.240 --> 1:31:19.240 people are watching you more, you know, they want to see, right, 1:31:19.439 --> 1:31:21.240 if you could do the you know. So yeah, there's 1:31:21.280 --> 1:31:24.719 those expectations and those standards that you know you're sitting 1:31:24.760 --> 1:31:26.639 there like, man, fuck, we gotta do it again now, 1:31:26.680 --> 1:31:27.120 you know what I mean? 1:31:27.320 --> 1:31:29.200 And there are only three or four people on the 1:31:29.320 --> 1:31:31.920 planet who understand how you're feeling. You can't go to 1:31:32.040 --> 1:31:35.280 just anybody and say I won the super Bowl last week, 1:31:35.280 --> 1:31:36.920 I'm kind of feeling kind of glum. 1:31:37.320 --> 1:31:38.479 Yeah it's true. 1:31:38.760 --> 1:31:40.360 Yeah wow. 1:31:41.000 --> 1:31:43.360 And then you feel bad because you're not happy because 1:31:43.400 --> 1:31:46.360 you just went of course, yeah, there's guilty, bad because 1:31:46.880 --> 1:31:48.439 am I just a miserable fuck? 1:31:48.680 --> 1:31:52.040 No, no, not at all. You're you're you're a human being. 1:31:52.840 --> 1:31:56.200 Yeah, Gary, do you think if you played football in 1:31:56.880 --> 1:32:00.240 like now generation that you would have? Of course, worts 1:32:00.280 --> 1:32:02.719 in general would have kind of stuck with it further, 1:32:02.960 --> 1:32:05.000 like with how people in mental health is a little 1:32:05.000 --> 1:32:06.519 bit more open. Oh it's sports now. 1:32:06.840 --> 1:32:08.960 Yeah, it's interesting, It's it's possible. 1:32:09.240 --> 1:32:12.439 The only thing is that I think that in order 1:32:12.479 --> 1:32:16.160 for me to have succeeded, I needed to get that 1:32:16.240 --> 1:32:20.760 confidence that Julian was talking about earlier. And and that 1:32:20.880 --> 1:32:22.880 was a big What was interesting was when I stopped 1:32:22.880 --> 1:32:26.240 playing football and went to the coach, he insisted that 1:32:26.320 --> 1:32:28.280 I that I stick it out, and I was like, 1:32:28.320 --> 1:32:31.000 but I'm like the worst player on the on the team. 1:32:31.160 --> 1:32:34.439 But there's something to depression that is that is telling 1:32:34.479 --> 1:32:36.759 you you the worst player on the on the team, 1:32:36.840 --> 1:32:41.040 and and and so with without that aspect, the confidence 1:32:41.240 --> 1:32:45.200 and and physically I was I could jump and jump higher, 1:32:45.560 --> 1:32:49.040 run faster than everyone at the tight end position. But 1:32:49.280 --> 1:32:52.920 mentally I felt like a like a grasshopper. I was 1:32:53.160 --> 1:32:55.679 that I was, that I was incompetent, I was incapable, 1:32:55.720 --> 1:32:57.720 and I would get overwhelmed and I would I would 1:32:58.280 --> 1:32:59.760 one of the things. I don't know if this ever 1:33:00.080 --> 1:33:02.519 happened to you, but I would get to the line 1:33:02.520 --> 1:33:07.439 of scrimmage knowing that the snap count and then fuck. 1:33:07.240 --> 1:33:09.799 It up because I was so I was so. 1:33:09.680 --> 1:33:14.920 Anxious and we'd have to run and everybody and I 1:33:14.960 --> 1:33:18.760 was like, look at me, I'm I'm incoonfident and it 1:33:18.920 --> 1:33:22.000 just it builds on itself, and I think so. 1:33:22.000 --> 1:33:22.920 So it's it's. 1:33:22.920 --> 1:33:26.040 Possible that there's a that there's a universe where I 1:33:26.080 --> 1:33:29.080 was able to get my confidence back and feel that way. 1:33:29.160 --> 1:33:30.120 But I don't. 1:33:30.479 --> 1:33:31.799 I think it was more likely. 1:33:31.680 --> 1:33:34.799 That I that I made an informed decision. 1:33:35.080 --> 1:33:38.479 I don't know. I still have I still have dreams 1:33:38.479 --> 1:33:39.600 about it. 1:33:39.600 --> 1:33:41.840 It's funny, at fifty three, I still have dreams about 1:33:41.880 --> 1:33:44.040 things that happened when I was eighteen or nineteen years old, 1:33:44.080 --> 1:33:45.160 and they have better results. 1:33:45.479 --> 1:33:50.040 No, it's it's a different generation. There's it's I worked 1:33:50.080 --> 1:33:52.320 with a sports therapist when I was. 1:33:52.560 --> 1:33:55.040 That was like an in its infancy when I was 1:33:55.120 --> 1:33:56.559 when I was playing, and I did have a really 1:33:56.600 --> 1:33:59.000 good therapist at the college who had worked with the 1:33:59.120 --> 1:33:59.759 other athletes. 1:33:59.800 --> 1:34:03.360 Yeah, and it was it was literally a lifesaver. I 1:34:03.439 --> 1:34:05.960 used to work with I think someone in college and 1:34:06.000 --> 1:34:09.360 then I you know, and then I was having some 1:34:09.400 --> 1:34:12.720 stuff going off the field that was starting to like 1:34:13.320 --> 1:34:16.000 mess with my game, you know what I mean, like 1:34:16.040 --> 1:34:19.920 as you're thinking about So then that's when I started 1:34:20.000 --> 1:34:23.360 seeing a therapist in Providence. I go over this that 1:34:23.640 --> 1:34:25.679 like the oldest war in the country, what's it called? 1:34:25.680 --> 1:34:29.880 That one over in Providence. But there's scary every time 1:34:29.920 --> 1:34:33.120 I went because it's really dark. But I go see 1:34:33.160 --> 1:34:35.559 my doc over there, and and it helped. It helped 1:34:35.560 --> 1:34:38.040 me because it just allowed me to you know, open 1:34:38.120 --> 1:34:39.760 up and it was very in it. It was an 1:34:40.040 --> 1:34:42.240 infancy in the league. At that time. I was the 1:34:42.280 --> 1:34:43.559 only guy in the team doing it. 1:34:43.600 --> 1:34:44.040 Wow. 1:34:44.520 --> 1:34:46.000 Now it's you know, there's a lot of a lot 1:34:46.040 --> 1:34:50.360 more resources because the information, you know, So you know, 1:34:50.439 --> 1:34:53.880 I I needed someone to help me. You know, even 1:34:54.439 --> 1:34:58.439 I come off sometimes as a confidence strong like everyone 1:34:58.479 --> 1:35:01.000 needs someone no, of course know, and it doesn't have 1:35:01.000 --> 1:35:03.479 a therapist. Could be a friend, but it just got 1:35:03.520 --> 1:35:06.000 to be someone bounce for a long time. I'm sure 1:35:06.040 --> 1:35:08.520 your father was part of that, was my Yeah, yeah, 1:35:08.720 --> 1:35:11.560 that was my dad. Yeah, it was just different practices. 1:35:11.720 --> 1:35:14.080 Well, you and your dad talked to a rabbi weekly 1:35:14.200 --> 1:35:15.040 now too, Yeah. 1:35:14.880 --> 1:35:18.400 We sweet around. What's your rabbi name, Rabbi Hamilton. Oh, 1:35:19.000 --> 1:35:21.439 what a great Hollywood. 1:35:22.880 --> 1:35:23.320 Hamilton. 1:35:23.439 --> 1:35:26.599 That's that's amazing, Boston. 1:35:26.800 --> 1:35:29.759 I have a very close friend who's a who's a rabbi, 1:35:30.000 --> 1:35:32.519 and and man, I can talk to them for hours. Right, 1:35:32.560 --> 1:35:36.920 They're just they know everything and and they're also so 1:35:37.040 --> 1:35:41.800 informed about other religions and philosophies and history and and 1:35:41.800 --> 1:35:46.160 and it's really they're really special people and resources for 1:35:46.280 --> 1:35:48.280 great for great wisdom. 1:35:48.120 --> 1:35:53.080 Great wisdom and and you know, great perspective. Yes, yes, 1:35:53.400 --> 1:35:56.880 we always we study the Torah and we'll take little 1:35:57.760 --> 1:36:00.400 he'll have his little you know, his passage is and 1:36:00.880 --> 1:36:02.519 we're going over each week and. 1:36:03.120 --> 1:36:05.559 Educate each other. But he'd be able to break it down. 1:36:05.920 --> 1:36:08.800 That's wonderful. What a great time in life to explore that, 1:36:09.040 --> 1:36:11.320 because for me it was from the time I was 1:36:11.439 --> 1:36:15.080 eight until thirteen. Yeah, and I couldn't appreciate what I 1:36:15.120 --> 1:36:18.080 was being given. I mean I did enjoy a lot 1:36:18.080 --> 1:36:21.439 of the a lot of the history lessons, and a 1:36:21.479 --> 1:36:25.240 lot of the the the rituals and things like that, 1:36:25.280 --> 1:36:27.560 but also I wanted to look out the window and 1:36:28.160 --> 1:36:31.960 be outside a lot during Hebrew School. But I think 1:36:32.000 --> 1:36:35.280 it's it's so incredibly valuable to have to have the 1:36:35.840 --> 1:36:40.280 lessons in faith at this point in our lives, definitely 1:36:40.360 --> 1:36:44.160 when we're grappling with especially as a dad. Yes, as 1:36:44.200 --> 1:36:48.599 a kid, yeah, totally, totally. So many things were playing 1:36:49.439 --> 1:36:51.799 when I was a kid. It was Atari Atari twenty 1:36:51.800 --> 1:36:55.040 six hundred. I saw your bit, you know, kids playing sports, 1:36:55.040 --> 1:36:56.719 your compete with the best video games. 1:36:57.560 --> 1:37:00.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:37:00.400 --> 1:37:03.080 Oh my gosh, well that was the nineteen eighty five 1:37:03.160 --> 1:37:04.479 AFC Championship game. 1:37:06.439 --> 1:37:07.840 We were here to talk about something. 1:37:07.840 --> 1:37:09.080 I can't remember what it was. 1:37:09.479 --> 1:37:12.240 No, oh, you know, this just gives us an excuse 1:37:12.280 --> 1:37:15.080 we wanted to explore you. Come on, I really appreciate that, man, 1:37:15.120 --> 1:37:18.360 This is uh. I was so looking forward to this. 1:37:18.439 --> 1:37:20.759 I didn't I didn't want a fanboy out or anything 1:37:20.800 --> 1:37:21.080 like that. 1:37:21.120 --> 1:37:22.639 But you've brought me so much. 1:37:22.560 --> 1:37:26.479 Joy over the over the years, and we're such a 1:37:26.520 --> 1:37:32.439 refreshing personality on in New England sports. And I've every 1:37:32.720 --> 1:37:35.880 interview i've seen you you give. And when I was 1:37:36.160 --> 1:37:37.960 a guest of a friend who was on the Seth 1:37:38.040 --> 1:37:40.640 Meyers Show and it was right after the one of 1:37:40.640 --> 1:37:42.880 the biggest moments of your life, and you were just 1:37:42.880 --> 1:37:45.760 so humble and took a picture with me, and I 1:37:45.840 --> 1:37:48.840 remember thinking, this is a really real guy, and a 1:37:48.920 --> 1:37:52.360 nice guy and a humble guy who is very very 1:37:52.400 --> 1:37:55.240 compelling in terms of your personality and the way you 1:37:55.280 --> 1:37:58.719 came off with Seth and everything like that. You're You're very. 1:37:58.680 --> 1:38:05.160 Lovable now you I appreciate that. Okay, Well, hopefully you 1:38:05.200 --> 1:38:05.760 can take it in. 1:38:05.880 --> 1:38:10.120 I know it's hard for men to appreciate compliments from 1:38:10.160 --> 1:38:11.680 other men, but nah, I. 1:38:13.400 --> 1:38:16.280 Don't know you that very that much. And here you 1:38:16.520 --> 1:38:20.479 could tell you have a very contagious You're warm. Oh 1:38:20.600 --> 1:38:22.519 I am, I am. I am a war I'm a 1:38:22.520 --> 1:38:24.320 warm I'm a warm, sensitive person. 1:38:24.400 --> 1:38:26.160 So very kind eyes we are. 1:38:26.320 --> 1:38:29.719 I do have very kind eye Kyler. 1:38:29.800 --> 1:38:32.679 Oh my gosh, you guys are great. Did we miss anything? 1:38:32.840 --> 1:38:35.639 Yeah, we got a couple of stuff for corrections. I'd 1:38:35.640 --> 1:38:37.640 be remiss if we don't talk about Tony Franklin, the 1:38:37.640 --> 1:38:41.439 Barefoot Cooker that this also, Julian, you mentioned the Red 1:38:41.439 --> 1:38:43.040 Sox won the World Series in two thousand and three 1:38:43.360 --> 1:38:44.439 was actually two thousand and four. 1:38:44.560 --> 1:38:44.800 Four. 1:38:44.960 --> 1:38:48.519 Yeah, Barry Sanders won his Heisman nineteen eighty eight and 1:38:48.520 --> 1:38:51.559 then Tony Easton he finished second Heisman voting. He lost 1:38:51.600 --> 1:38:55.000 to Michigan's Anthony Carter and he earned the nickname Champagne 1:38:55.040 --> 1:38:57.480 Tony because he did play for the University of Illinois 1:38:57.880 --> 1:38:59.840 and then also Dancing with the Stars. Winners we had 1:39:00.040 --> 1:39:03.600 at Smith, Donald Driver, Heinz Ward, and Rashad Jennings. 1:39:03.800 --> 1:39:05.880 Jerry didn't get one. Did Jerry not win? 1:39:05.960 --> 1:39:07.000 I don't get Jerry one? 1:39:07.280 --> 1:39:09.720 He was good though, Wow, he cut the rug. 1:39:09.840 --> 1:39:10.760 He could really. 1:39:10.560 --> 1:39:15.719 Move and then one more. In the nineteen seventy six Patriots, 1:39:15.720 --> 1:39:18.200 you mentioned when eleven and three and lost twenty four 1:39:18.200 --> 1:39:20.679 to twenty one to the Raiders in the divisional round. 1:39:20.840 --> 1:39:22.439 It was a bad rough in the passer call in 1:39:22.479 --> 1:39:26.080 the Pats against Kenny Stabler on a third and eighteen 1:39:26.840 --> 1:39:29.800 that was panned as a bad call. Yeah, It's become 1:39:29.840 --> 1:39:31.280 known as the Ben Dreff game. 1:39:31.760 --> 1:39:36.160 That was the ref right, Oh shit, when wait, we 1:39:36.160 --> 1:39:39.479 say it again, what the ref game? 1:39:39.560 --> 1:39:41.320 That's the It's called the Ben Dreff game? Who was 1:39:41.360 --> 1:39:43.559 the ref? Because the Patriots lost because of a bad 1:39:43.640 --> 1:39:47.639 rough in the passer in what year? Nineteen seventy six? 1:39:47.680 --> 1:39:48.960 It would he murder him? 1:39:49.360 --> 1:39:49.839 Probably? 1:39:51.120 --> 1:39:52.920 How do you get a rough in the passer? Like 1:39:53.360 --> 1:39:54.759 I've seen some of those hits. 1:39:54.880 --> 1:40:01.240 Yeah, those hits were not Yeah, nineteen seventies Sad Jack 1:40:01.320 --> 1:40:04.240 Lambert and no teeth, Oh my gosh, four army. 1:40:04.160 --> 1:40:07.920 People, it was awesome. Man, my school, oh. 1:40:07.800 --> 1:40:10.840 Wow, and sort of Thermon monson right, I think so, yeah, 1:40:10.920 --> 1:40:12.160 and Billy Crystal. 1:40:12.280 --> 1:40:16.439 Billy Crystal, Drew Carrey, Nick I didn't know that, Nick Saban, 1:40:16.760 --> 1:40:21.880 Nick Sabanu holds, Lou holds Wow. Michael Keaton, we have that. 1:40:22.439 --> 1:40:27.360 The National Guard. They were there May fourth, nineteen seventy 1:40:27.240 --> 1:40:30.880 They were definitely there Rough one. They used to be 1:40:30.880 --> 1:40:33.240 the biggest party day though really it was like a 1:40:33.320 --> 1:40:35.320 we used to celebrate it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:40:35.320 --> 1:40:37.519 I could see that. Chermania they called it. 1:40:37.600 --> 1:40:41.280 Oh because there was a stirt called street called Sherman Street, Wow, 1:40:41.479 --> 1:40:45.920 Germany on May fourth, Wow, Kent State Golden Flashes. So 1:40:46.000 --> 1:40:48.920 you just you just wrote your book a memoir. Yeah, 1:40:49.000 --> 1:40:52.320 it's a memoir of kindergarten through twelfth grade, and but 1:40:52.400 --> 1:40:55.599 includes a nice chapter on Hebrew School, does it. Yeah? 1:40:55.720 --> 1:40:57.519 I thought that I think you would you would find 1:40:57.640 --> 1:41:01.759 very very funny because my intention is that Hebrew School 1:41:02.920 --> 1:41:06.599 and then Jewish Summer Camp is this opportunity for Jewish 1:41:06.600 --> 1:41:10.240 boys to be around Jewish girls without gentile boys, uh 1:41:10.240 --> 1:41:13.479 competing for the gloves. So that Yeah, so it's like 1:41:14.320 --> 1:41:16.920 we were the Jewish boys were able to stand out 1:41:16.920 --> 1:41:20.160 a little bit and get get run the bases a 1:41:20.200 --> 1:41:20.960 little bit easier. 1:41:22.640 --> 1:41:24.280 Sometimes you get a load loaded deck. 1:41:26.640 --> 1:41:30.760 I got one last point too, on the point. So 1:41:30.800 --> 1:41:33.840 I had the pleasure of screening uh, your special that's 1:41:33.880 --> 1:41:36.519 streaming now on on that when we release it. 1:41:36.960 --> 1:41:39.280 Yeah, no, no, and uh, I can play that game. 1:41:39.360 --> 1:41:41.280 You talk a lot about the lack of Jewish hockey 1:41:41.320 --> 1:41:44.360 players in the Hall of Fame, and as a hockey 1:41:44.360 --> 1:41:47.160 player myself and a general well wisher of the Jewish people, 1:41:47.479 --> 1:41:49.599 I'd be remiss if I didn't call out some amazing 1:41:49.680 --> 1:41:51.720 young Jews that are playing in the NHL right now. 1:41:51.800 --> 1:41:54.400 No, I agree, but I will say that I was. 1:41:54.800 --> 1:41:58.320 I was talking in nineteen seventy eight. Now they're the 1:41:58.400 --> 1:41:58.960 Hughes brother. 1:41:59.040 --> 1:42:02.639 Hughes brother, Yeah, really special, and Adam Fox won yes, 1:42:02.640 --> 1:42:03.200 and Adam five. 1:42:03.320 --> 1:42:05.400 These guys will probably make the Hall of Fame and 1:42:05.439 --> 1:42:08.799 make my joke dated. But I was talking in nineteen 1:42:08.840 --> 1:42:11.080 seventy eight to my dad, and I was playing hockey, 1:42:11.439 --> 1:42:14.839 and he said, let's let's see how many Jewish players 1:42:14.840 --> 1:42:16.640 there are in the Hockey Hall of Fame, because you know, 1:42:16.680 --> 1:42:19.639 as a Jew, we really cling to the athletes who 1:42:19.680 --> 1:42:22.800 stand out, the Sandy Cofaxes and the Hank Greenberg's and 1:42:22.800 --> 1:42:26.600 the Julian Edelmans and the Dolph Chases. 1:42:27.000 --> 1:42:28.360 And so my dad said. 1:42:28.160 --> 1:42:30.559 Okay, there is zero Jewish players in the Hockey Hall 1:42:30.600 --> 1:42:32.880 of Fami. He said, just for a point of comparison, Garre, 1:42:33.240 --> 1:42:36.160 more Jews have been the Messiah than have made the 1:42:36.160 --> 1:42:38.360 Hockey Hall of Fame. He said, You're more likely to 1:42:38.439 --> 1:42:40.960 walk on water than you are to skate on it 1:42:41.680 --> 1:42:42.960 holding the Stanley Cup. 1:42:44.439 --> 1:42:45.880 So we know where you got your comedic. 1:42:46.560 --> 1:42:48.760 My dad was telling me Dad, my dad was very 1:42:49.080 --> 1:42:50.840 good joke. It was a good joke. My dad was 1:42:50.880 --> 1:42:53.679 a very good laugher also, which it which helped my dad. 1:42:53.800 --> 1:42:57.280 I think nobody would be more prouder of me. 1:42:57.320 --> 1:42:59.840 Than my than my dad. Phil Bellman was a really 1:43:00.000 --> 1:43:01.040 special guy. 1:43:01.080 --> 1:43:04.840 He was very kind, affectionate, generous man who really believed 1:43:04.880 --> 1:43:05.400 in his son. 1:43:05.560 --> 1:43:08.639 So yeah, it sounds like sounds like a bench. 1:43:08.880 --> 1:43:12.320 He was really a mens Yes, the true definition of 1:43:12.360 --> 1:43:16.240 a mensch. Yeah, well yeah, I was really loved dad son. 1:43:16.760 --> 1:43:22.360 Yeah talk, Yeah, I got a good dead. Now we 1:43:22.400 --> 1:43:23.080 got a segment. 1:43:23.400 --> 1:43:26.800 Let's segue this bad boy to the scoring. The game 1:43:26.880 --> 1:43:30.960 presented by win Bet. The name of the game is 1:43:31.000 --> 1:43:35.080 Squished the Fish. We go through and we grade the 1:43:35.120 --> 1:43:38.800 steak Star power gameplay name, and we total up, we 1:43:38.840 --> 1:43:40.840 get the average and we see where it ranks within 1:43:41.120 --> 1:43:44.720 the games that we've done already. Gary, Okay, so the 1:43:44.760 --> 1:43:46.519 stakes of this game, this is to go to the 1:43:46.560 --> 1:43:49.720 super Bowl. Zero to ten decimals? All right, what do 1:43:49.760 --> 1:43:50.200 you think we. 1:43:50.120 --> 1:43:50.760 Should give this? 1:43:51.479 --> 1:43:53.880 I think it's an eight point eight eight point eight. Yeah, 1:43:53.960 --> 1:43:56.880 it's a very fair See that's another thing that I 1:43:56.960 --> 1:43:58.960 felt about you. You're a fair man. Yeah. This is 1:43:58.960 --> 1:44:01.960 a team that never made the super Bowl and had never. 1:44:01.880 --> 1:44:05.679 Won in this stadium in eighteen years. That's that's a generation, 1:44:05.800 --> 1:44:08.840 I think in some cultures. Yeah, that. That's a very 1:44:09.840 --> 1:44:15.120 honest answer. Great answer, because we did have potentially maybe 1:44:15.160 --> 1:44:17.639 our next president come on here and just start screwing 1:44:17.720 --> 1:44:18.559 up all the scores. 1:44:18.760 --> 1:44:20.800 Mark Cuban, we had him, Oh wow, you know he's 1:44:20.840 --> 1:44:24.439 running right now? Is he running? That's what that's what 1:44:24.479 --> 1:44:24.800 it says. 1:44:25.560 --> 1:44:27.200 I'd watch the spinoff series. 1:44:27.600 --> 1:44:30.840 Yeah, and he went on put everything ten and ruined 1:44:30.840 --> 1:44:32.040 the whole scoring program. 1:44:32.080 --> 1:44:37.639 So so back to star Power was his game MAVs 1:44:37.680 --> 1:44:41.439 Heat Game five. Okay, that was a great game, Dirk. 1:44:42.160 --> 1:44:45.639 Katie, Dirk second half star power in this game though, Gary, 1:44:45.720 --> 1:44:48.720 all right, So we had Dan, Andre Tippott. 1:44:48.360 --> 1:44:52.479 And Tippett Sula kind of down the middle. We've done 1:44:52.479 --> 1:44:55.840 Pro Bowls like, you know, five Hall of Famers a 1:44:55.880 --> 1:44:57.080 part of this game, right. 1:44:57.200 --> 1:44:57.439 I was. 1:44:57.560 --> 1:44:59.400 I mean you had hand him, but he didn't have 1:44:59.439 --> 1:45:04.080 that star. I mean it's probably a seventy two point 1:45:04.160 --> 1:45:07.800 two very very very very fair scoring here. Yeah. 1:45:08.880 --> 1:45:13.680 And gameplay, gameplay, I mean, the running game was it 1:45:13.920 --> 1:45:17.759 was extraordinary, I think for the for the Patriots. Marino 1:45:17.800 --> 1:45:21.639 obviously had a bad game throwing, so I I mean 1:45:22.240 --> 1:45:24.880 I'll give it overall in eight point zero. 1:45:24.920 --> 1:45:29.880 Eight point zero and the name Squish the fish. Well, 1:45:30.000 --> 1:45:33.600 I mean in terms of accuracy, it has no accuracy. 1:45:33.680 --> 1:45:37.320 But what rhymes with with mammal? That would or or 1:45:37.640 --> 1:45:40.600 uh camels. 1:45:41.080 --> 1:45:43.559 It's a verb. We would need a verb to do 1:45:43.640 --> 1:45:45.800 to the to the trample of the mammal. But that 1:45:45.840 --> 1:45:51.080 doesn't rhyme, that's not a that's maybe a slant. 1:45:49.560 --> 1:45:51.519 Rhyme, but that that would have never taken off. But 1:45:51.560 --> 1:45:55.240 squish the fish is very memorable. And the image image 1:45:55.680 --> 1:46:00.000 Patriot destroying the dolphin, which is I mean, kind of 1:46:00.160 --> 1:46:01.960 a hate crime when you think of how lovely the 1:46:02.000 --> 1:46:05.679 dolphin community is and and but so. 1:46:05.720 --> 1:46:08.040 One of the animals that have said for fun. 1:46:07.960 --> 1:46:12.160 Yeah, and I'm gonna I'm gonna give it an eight 1:46:12.240 --> 1:46:14.920 point seven for the name. 1:46:15.280 --> 1:46:19.400 Yeah, what is our total? Eight point one seven five? 1:46:19.439 --> 1:46:22.400 Where does it stand in the games? 1:46:22.680 --> 1:46:26.360 It fits between the twenty eleven AFC Division around they 1:46:26.360 --> 1:46:29.360 can't Wait game, Jets Patriots, we did with Rich Eisen 1:46:29.560 --> 1:46:32.280 and the two thousand and seven Fiesta Ball thattually Big 1:46:32.280 --> 1:46:36.120 Game with Boise State, Oklahoma and the Super Bowl twenty seven. 1:46:36.120 --> 1:46:37.439 Company is a lot of fun. 1:46:37.880 --> 1:46:42.160 Love Isisen? Yeah? Julian, who is the like your closest 1:46:42.280 --> 1:46:44.120 longest friend, Like do you have any friends you were 1:46:44.120 --> 1:46:45.679 friends with in grade school. Yeah. 1:46:45.920 --> 1:46:48.280 Yeah, my boy Kurt oh Man moves out here. You 1:46:48.280 --> 1:46:50.760 went out he actually he got he took a job 1:46:50.800 --> 1:46:53.240 in Boston. So like my first seven years there, I 1:46:53.320 --> 1:46:55.040 was away from all, you know, everyone out here and 1:46:55.120 --> 1:46:57.680 there he moved out there. I know he's back in all. 1:46:58.120 --> 1:47:01.280 Had a blast. Yeah, he was a and we we 1:47:01.360 --> 1:47:03.960 became friends that my mom was babysitting his older sister, 1:47:05.120 --> 1:47:08.160 you know, before we were born. We became friends like that, especial. 1:47:08.560 --> 1:47:10.200 It's great when you have I have a friend, my 1:47:10.240 --> 1:47:12.519 friend Jason her which has been friends a sixth grade 1:47:13.080 --> 1:47:19.160 and and we have these like setups to jokes forty 1:47:19.160 --> 1:47:22.000 five years old. He'll just say it name, look at 1:47:22.000 --> 1:47:23.639 somebody who looks like somebody we haven't seen. 1:47:24.200 --> 1:47:25.479 Language. You guys have a language. 1:47:25.479 --> 1:47:28.000 You have a language. Yes, that's the exact right way 1:47:28.040 --> 1:47:30.280 to put it. And it's so I'm so grateful. 1:47:30.400 --> 1:47:34.000 I'm in a text group with like seven eight of 1:47:34.040 --> 1:47:37.360 my friends from high school. Oh really, that's awesome. Yeah, 1:47:37.400 --> 1:47:40.519 it's we stayed pretty connected. It's a great feeling. 1:47:40.640 --> 1:47:43.240 And then also you know our generation, I play video 1:47:43.360 --> 1:47:46.040 games here and there, and that's another way for us 1:47:46.080 --> 1:47:49.960 to right on and yeah, gets at the headsets. 1:47:50.120 --> 1:47:53.439 Yeah, oh that's really cool. You know I stayed close 1:47:53.520 --> 1:47:54.320 with those guys. 1:47:55.360 --> 1:47:56.280 You know, it's great to hear. 1:47:56.439 --> 1:47:59.240 Now all your friends are your your kids friends, right 1:47:59.360 --> 1:48:03.360 so oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard about that. Yeah, 1:48:03.640 --> 1:48:08.840 hold back until you Yeah we miss anything? Do we 1:48:08.880 --> 1:48:11.640 miss anything? No, we didn't miss anything. I think I 1:48:11.680 --> 1:48:11.920 got it. 1:48:12.120 --> 1:48:15.519 I got across my admiration for Julian, and you lived 1:48:15.560 --> 1:48:17.960 up to every expectation I had in terms of your hand, 1:48:18.320 --> 1:48:20.320 your hang, hangout. 1:48:19.880 --> 1:48:22.360 Ability, and you're the real deal man. 1:48:22.400 --> 1:48:25.479 So don't sure you, man, I do love that plug 1:48:25.520 --> 1:48:27.640 Born on Third Base is now streaming on Max. And 1:48:27.680 --> 1:48:30.000 then my book Misfit. This is this is great. This 1:48:30.080 --> 1:48:32.360 is a great. This is an excellent podcast. I'm so 1:48:32.400 --> 1:48:34.120 honored and grateful to you had me on. 1:48:34.240 --> 1:48:35.439 So so you. 1:48:35.360 --> 1:48:39.719 Say thank you Gary, I say thank you. Julian Kyler. Yeah, Leah, 1:48:39.760 --> 1:48:40.639 sorry Lea, how. 1:48:40.520 --> 1:48:41.920 Do I forget the princess? 1:48:44.000 --> 1:48:44.280 Leah? 1:48:44.600 --> 1:48:49.120 Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you. Well that was 1:48:49.600 --> 1:48:50.600 that was a good episode. 1:48:51.200 --> 1:48:53.519 I wasn't there for the interview, but man, y'all killed it. 1:48:53.800 --> 1:48:55.600 You know, kind of met his new best friend. They 1:48:55.640 --> 1:48:56.880 were these guys hit it all. 1:48:57.000 --> 1:49:00.840 A little bit of a fan Gary, I feel like 1:49:00.880 --> 1:49:04.640 my heart got warmer. It's very kind, nice guy. I 1:49:04.680 --> 1:49:10.840 feel like I just got shot in the heart with careness. 1:49:12.920 --> 1:49:16.760 I don't know, man, I you know, he he kept 1:49:16.800 --> 1:49:19.280 on giving me the eyes of like he didn't want 1:49:19.320 --> 1:49:22.120 to get I've seen his act. I've seen his act. Okay, 1:49:22.120 --> 1:49:24.640 we all know Gary Goleman. Okay, you know he's the 1:49:24.680 --> 1:49:27.280 self defeat. I saw that, and he he like didn't 1:49:27.320 --> 1:49:28.320 want to turn it on for me. 1:49:28.560 --> 1:49:30.800 Oh man, he wanted to be strong, he. 1:49:30.840 --> 1:49:33.240 Wanted me, but then it made me vulnerable. 1:49:34.040 --> 1:49:35.719 Low key therapy session for a few minutes. 1:49:35.840 --> 1:49:39.320 I felt like the vulnerability clicked together. I loved it. 1:49:39.720 --> 1:49:43.400 And as you know, we have the hot line up 1:49:43.760 --> 1:49:48.080 and running four two four two nine one two two 1:49:48.880 --> 1:49:51.720 nine zero hit me on the what is it? What's 1:49:51.760 --> 1:49:54.840 the Drake hot likely? 1:49:55.720 --> 1:49:58.280 And then there's also Pretty Ricky, a lesser known one 1:49:58.760 --> 1:50:03.040 that was a hotline. Remember that one, Pretty Ricky, Reggae 1:50:03.080 --> 1:50:03.960 Ricky and. 1:50:04.000 --> 1:50:05.240 This week. 1:50:06.560 --> 1:50:12.080 Pretty Ricky. This week we are checking our messages for 1:50:12.240 --> 1:50:16.479 suggestions on what you all think we should name the studio. 1:50:17.160 --> 1:50:22.880 We're casting a wide net here you can comment ig Twitter, YouTube, 1:50:22.920 --> 1:50:26.799 everywhere to call in of course, TikTok anywhere. I'm scouring 1:50:26.840 --> 1:50:29.400 the comments. So first and foremost, we'll kick this off 1:50:29.439 --> 1:50:33.280 with some suggestions from the comment section. First, we got 1:50:33.680 --> 1:50:39.480 the Gladiator Studio from r D six Hawkladiator. 1:50:41.479 --> 1:50:43.320 I just that just brought me back to like day 1:50:43.320 --> 1:50:46.080 Ball walking down the hallway. He always try to get 1:50:46.120 --> 1:50:48.080 you the DS nuts comment. Day Ball was a D 1:50:48.280 --> 1:50:51.919 nuts guy full DSE nuts. Wow, I'm even more preparing 1:50:52.040 --> 1:50:55.000 for the AFC Championship. I'm not trying to talk about 1:50:55.080 --> 1:51:01.400 these nuts. And then Long would get up and he 1:51:01.520 --> 1:51:04.719 was also he'd be like, hey, you heard about Jamal. 1:51:05.720 --> 1:51:06.760 I'm like, what are you talking about? 1:51:07.160 --> 1:51:10.439 Who? Jamal? Who? Jim Olden is caking your mouth? 1:51:12.720 --> 1:51:14.639 Dude, I can't even go to Wendy's anymore with the boys. 1:51:14.960 --> 1:51:17.519 Oh you like Wendy's Wendy's nuts in your mouth? 1:51:17.640 --> 1:51:19.720 You know I would have heard. I've heard them all. 1:51:20.960 --> 1:51:23.360 What was another whatever, let's keep going on. 1:51:23.360 --> 1:51:27.680 Then glad the ed old Den from Buck Hancho that 1:51:27.760 --> 1:51:29.800 was in the YouTube comments. I like that, that's got 1:51:29.840 --> 1:51:31.920 a good ring to it. Yeah, we got the Film 1:51:32.000 --> 1:51:35.760 Room from Cole Miller three nine three four. Yeah, a 1:51:35.800 --> 1:51:38.400 little down the middle, straight line. But we do watch 1:51:38.439 --> 1:51:39.120 film in here. 1:51:39.439 --> 1:51:42.360 This film room, the house of jewels. House of Jewels 1:51:42.800 --> 1:51:46.280 is solid. That could almost just be I could apply 1:51:46.320 --> 1:51:49.479 to the the entire just little seven to one one zero, 1:51:49.600 --> 1:51:50.679 shout out little. 1:51:51.400 --> 1:51:52.040 I like that one. 1:51:52.120 --> 1:51:52.439 I like that. 1:51:52.640 --> 1:51:53.360 It's kind of good. 1:51:53.400 --> 1:51:56.599 This bitpit is pretty good. From from Climba one point 1:51:56.640 --> 1:51:57.920 five clambers. 1:52:00.040 --> 1:52:02.280 Plan this explain the spit pit to me, like we're spitting? 1:52:02.320 --> 1:52:03.040 What's happening here? 1:52:03.080 --> 1:52:07.559 I think we're dipping baby, Oh we're dipping and spitting baby. 1:52:07.600 --> 1:52:08.280 There we go. 1:52:08.560 --> 1:52:10.959 Hey, we do not recommend this for any. 1:52:10.760 --> 1:52:13.280 Of our users. This is a terrible habit. This is 1:52:13.320 --> 1:52:19.439 a pd PSD or yourself as a school special babysd. 1:52:20.360 --> 1:52:23.640 This is a p s at on not picking up 1:52:23.720 --> 1:52:27.640 bad habits. So all you kids out there, this is 1:52:27.720 --> 1:52:28.280 bubble gum. 1:52:28.560 --> 1:52:31.400 And then we Kyler and I I think all of 1:52:31.479 --> 1:52:34.439 us are in the room. Gotta gotta put our brains together, 1:52:34.560 --> 1:52:37.640 and uh the broajouts the bro joe. That's that's been 1:52:37.720 --> 1:52:41.760 used when uh Dola Dola's he used to. 1:52:41.800 --> 1:52:44.360 Call the ping pong room downstairs of his house. That 1:52:44.520 --> 1:52:48.040 was like unfinished. We've already talked about this, I think 1:52:48.080 --> 1:52:51.599 on this podcast. But it was unfinished, and I kid 1:52:51.720 --> 1:52:57.360 you not. There was probably three hundred tens of Copenhagen 1:52:58.320 --> 1:53:02.600 thrown out above gum bubble gum, and we. 1:53:02.640 --> 1:53:04.840 Would just that was the real spit pit. We'd be 1:53:05.080 --> 1:53:07.640 spitting because it was under it was unfinished. It was 1:53:07.720 --> 1:53:10.600 all cement. It was like we were in Russia, the 1:53:10.680 --> 1:53:18.120 best spitting on the walls, sweat, a little freaking bows, fucking. 1:53:17.920 --> 1:53:20.360 Speaker feet just sticking to the floor. 1:53:21.080 --> 1:53:25.280 No, we were sliding cement with like yeah, it was 1:53:25.320 --> 1:53:26.320 it was a little plays. 1:53:26.520 --> 1:53:28.800 It was c but there was still there was so 1:53:28.960 --> 1:53:33.000 much dust and dirt that you would slide right on it, 1:53:33.120 --> 1:53:34.160 you know what I mean. It was fun. 1:53:35.360 --> 1:53:37.240 The wet's save the brojo. We'll save the bro jo. 1:53:38.479 --> 1:53:38.880 Got the game. 1:53:39.120 --> 1:53:40.840 We got the game room. I little little down down 1:53:40.920 --> 1:53:44.080 the middle, but this one from Amanas off the Judeo 1:53:44.280 --> 1:53:50.000 instead of the studio judio little polarized, kind of tight. Okay, 1:53:50.200 --> 1:53:53.160 uh the room where Jewels dominates in pool. Still have 1:53:53.320 --> 1:53:54.280 yet to get a dub off. 1:53:54.120 --> 1:53:58.280 Your brother, Yeah, but I've I'm not the dominant. If 1:53:58.360 --> 1:54:01.040 anyone's out there listening, I actually want to hire a 1:54:01.160 --> 1:54:01.800 pool coach. 1:54:01.920 --> 1:54:06.960 Okay, I'm coachable. Sometimes I'm on and then sometimes I'm off. 1:54:07.040 --> 1:54:08.960 I don't know where I'm hitting it on the ball 1:54:09.960 --> 1:54:13.160 correctly or if i am some you know, like sometimes 1:54:13.200 --> 1:54:16.160 I'm dialed but he got it's too inconsistent, and I 1:54:16.479 --> 1:54:20.000 don't know my mistake from when I hit my mistake, 1:54:20.080 --> 1:54:22.040 so then I can't make a correction in my head. 1:54:22.160 --> 1:54:24.720 So pool people out there, YO, hit me up in 1:54:24.720 --> 1:54:25.840 the DMS. Need a pool coach. 1:54:26.200 --> 1:54:26.920 Is the Black Widow? 1:54:26.960 --> 1:54:29.080 As a listener, come ill, I said that last night, 1:54:29.560 --> 1:54:31.719 Black Black Widow, she rocks. 1:54:31.800 --> 1:54:33.480 But also I think the real reason this is happening 1:54:33.480 --> 1:54:36.720 because Kurt Jules's friend has been stepping his game up significant. 1:54:37.520 --> 1:54:38.480 He's been running the table. 1:54:38.640 --> 1:54:40.760 The table we split last night. 1:54:42.080 --> 1:54:48.440 Thurty boy, all right, you want to hear all right, 1:54:48.480 --> 1:54:48.920 let's hear. 1:54:48.840 --> 1:54:52.840 Something twenty four line dropping soon in Tear Designs. 1:54:52.960 --> 1:54:55.360 Guys, all right, let's let's uh, let's let's crack open 1:54:55.400 --> 1:54:56.160 some of these voices. 1:54:56.840 --> 1:54:58.200 Let's hear these voice notes. 1:54:58.960 --> 1:55:01.320 First off, Jewel, thank you for everything you've done in 1:55:01.400 --> 1:55:04.080 New England. But I see you need a name for 1:55:04.240 --> 1:55:06.720 your studio, and I think the best option for you 1:55:06.880 --> 1:55:11.600 is Edel Nuts nuthouse. So if that's an option there, 1:55:11.640 --> 1:55:13.320 you guys go with that. At least get me a 1:55:13.400 --> 1:55:16.760 shout out on air, but a jewels. Thank you for 1:55:16.840 --> 1:55:19.960 everything you've done. Man, you have been an absolute icon 1:55:20.080 --> 1:55:23.160 in New England, a god amongst men. Some will say 1:55:23.200 --> 1:55:26.080 so thank you, Julian, everything you've put on the field, 1:55:26.120 --> 1:55:28.800 everything you sacrificed for. You know, some of us just 1:55:28.880 --> 1:55:30.400 wish you were still out there trying to make our 1:55:30.400 --> 1:55:33.919 team a little bit better. But yeah, Edel Nuts Nuthouse, 1:55:34.080 --> 1:55:34.760 what you need to do? 1:55:35.920 --> 1:55:37.800 Jack, Will you stop having your friends calling. 1:55:37.840 --> 1:55:41.200 That glazing was crazy? 1:55:41.240 --> 1:55:44.360 But the real takeaway nuthouse. 1:55:45.600 --> 1:55:48.360 Nuthouse is decent. Edel Nuts Nuthouse sounds like it could 1:55:48.360 --> 1:55:49.800 be a good franchiseable restaurant too. 1:55:49.880 --> 1:55:51.000 It is kind of nuttying here. 1:55:51.440 --> 1:55:52.360 It is a lot. 1:55:54.320 --> 1:55:55.840 I mean, if you were to cut into like a 1:55:55.920 --> 1:55:59.080 middle of a nut and like you were, you know, 1:55:59.200 --> 1:56:02.720 like those old like cartoons where they go in like 1:56:02.800 --> 1:56:04.520 the brain, and like you said, I don't know which 1:56:04.560 --> 1:56:07.520 one was that. There was some I don't know regards 1:56:07.600 --> 1:56:12.120 most of it like probably in the middle of or not. Yes, yeah, 1:56:12.160 --> 1:56:12.720 that's a good one. 1:56:12.880 --> 1:56:13.360 I like that one. 1:56:15.480 --> 1:56:16.320 He didn't live one. 1:56:16.360 --> 1:56:16.960 He didn't leave one. 1:56:17.040 --> 1:56:20.720 Well, shout out to that guy that blaser. He yesked 1:56:20.800 --> 1:56:22.400 for a shout out. I can't give you a shout 1:56:22.440 --> 1:56:23.760 out here, you know. 1:56:24.880 --> 1:56:27.760 Oh yeah, this is Gustal for girls about the I'm 1:56:27.760 --> 1:56:33.200 from Tekas. Gustavo's name for the studio would be the outhouse, 1:56:33.240 --> 1:56:37.400 because you're gonna talk and ship spin the ship, talking 1:56:37.400 --> 1:56:40.440 about the old ship, the new ship, every ship, all 1:56:40.520 --> 1:56:42.800 the ship. You know, fuck it. You know that's how 1:56:42.800 --> 1:56:45.640 it supposed to be. Don't when you're tired, you choulding 1:56:45.760 --> 1:56:50.840 on it, your dad or your uncle, brother son, whatever. 1:56:51.480 --> 1:56:54.400 Always it's a good place to go talk. The ship 1:56:55.720 --> 1:56:57.280 also known as the outhouse. 1:56:57.840 --> 1:57:00.960 Yeah, ou house, not bad, dude, Stava bringing the heat. 1:57:00.960 --> 1:57:02.160 The father. 1:57:02.480 --> 1:57:03.120 I like this guy. 1:57:03.400 --> 1:57:07.640 That's a that's an Internet translation transcription. Don't they're not perfect. 1:57:08.040 --> 1:57:10.040 We haven't got to a final form of AI yet. 1:57:10.160 --> 1:57:12.680 I like thinking that is that it is Gustavo's father, 1:57:12.760 --> 1:57:14.040 though this guy rocks. 1:57:14.920 --> 1:57:16.360 Who's Gustava the outhouse? 1:57:16.520 --> 1:57:19.080 I don't know, yeh, out house, it's fun. 1:57:19.280 --> 1:57:22.400 Uh Gustav isn't that the guy from Beauty and the 1:57:22.480 --> 1:57:29.200 Beast gustav gustaff all right, that's another one, Gustavo's father, 1:57:29.440 --> 1:57:30.360 good good one out. 1:57:30.480 --> 1:57:35.320 Hey jewels, big fans, man, big big fan. Appreciate it, 1:57:35.640 --> 1:57:42.320 Appreciate you a lot. Recommendation for your new studio. I 1:57:42.440 --> 1:57:46.720 mean you are a squirrel squirrel man, so I would 1:57:47.280 --> 1:57:50.080 recommend the squirrel cave like bat caves. 1:57:50.880 --> 1:57:55.520 Just a thought. Squirrel cave. I like it, squirrel cave, 1:57:56.720 --> 1:57:58.320 I like it. Squirrels one living caves. 1:57:58.480 --> 1:58:00.640 Yeah, it's a little a little clunky. 1:58:00.240 --> 1:58:04.800 To but hey, Batman had a cave, we're bats leaving caves. 1:58:06.280 --> 1:58:07.520 What are squirrels living trees? 1:58:08.480 --> 1:58:09.040 Treehouse? 1:58:09.520 --> 1:58:12.520 The squirrel treehouse, squirrel treehouse. The tree we do, look, 1:58:13.640 --> 1:58:16.600 it could be if you cut like, we could be 1:58:16.720 --> 1:58:19.360 in a big tree in here. Likely all this wood grain, 1:58:20.520 --> 1:58:21.440 the lights coming through. 1:58:21.320 --> 1:58:23.640 A little holes might be onto something that will gain 1:58:23.760 --> 1:58:24.320 dash Man. 1:58:24.920 --> 1:58:29.280 All right's another one, Hey fellas, love to see that 1:58:29.400 --> 1:58:30.360 we're back. 1:58:31.600 --> 1:58:32.520 Named for the studio. 1:58:32.720 --> 1:58:34.959 I feel like if we're not calling it the Hall. 1:58:35.320 --> 1:58:38.800 Of Games and we're doing ourselves as disservice here. 1:58:39.200 --> 1:58:42.040 It spilled from New Hampshire, Love your jewels. 1:58:43.240 --> 1:58:46.880 What did he say Hall of Games? I didn't wreck. 1:58:47.000 --> 1:58:50.200 I didn't hear that the Hall of Games, the Hall 1:58:50.280 --> 1:58:50.879 of Games. 1:58:51.640 --> 1:58:54.520 It's Regal, some would say to Regal, I was going 1:58:54.600 --> 1:58:56.080 to say, it's like a wing in Canton. 1:58:57.600 --> 1:58:58.640 The Hall of Games. 1:58:59.400 --> 1:59:03.040 Yeah, got the boy Watch, the boy Watch. 1:59:03.840 --> 1:59:06.560 Okay, well that's that's what we got, so some good stuff. 1:59:07.160 --> 1:59:08.200 Appreciate the calls. 1:59:08.600 --> 1:59:10.560 Yeah, let's kind of whittle it down to three and 1:59:10.640 --> 1:59:13.040 maybe put a Twitter pole or instat pole. What are 1:59:13.080 --> 1:59:13.400 you thinking? 1:59:14.040 --> 1:59:14.560 Maybe five? 1:59:15.080 --> 1:59:15.280 Five? 1:59:15.400 --> 1:59:15.600 Five? 1:59:15.720 --> 1:59:19.760 Okay, okay, if it's five nuthouse. 1:59:20.240 --> 1:59:24.480 Nuthouses up there, because it's got a double meaning, because 1:59:24.640 --> 1:59:27.600 you're nutty. What did you say, edel nut nuthouse, eedel 1:59:27.680 --> 1:59:29.840 nuts nuthouse. Those would be good on T shirts. I 1:59:29.880 --> 1:59:33.000 feel like, just go nuthouse, simplify it. 1:59:33.920 --> 1:59:36.040 I like, uh, the spit pit. 1:59:36.560 --> 1:59:40.000 Spitpit's good, spit pit sneaky, sneaky good. 1:59:40.840 --> 1:59:44.240 Elden's good, edel Den. Hall of Games. You gotta give 1:59:44.280 --> 1:59:45.880 one boring straight line. 1:59:45.920 --> 1:59:50.040 We'll give them Regal the judio that's off. Yeah, we 1:59:50.120 --> 1:59:52.600 gotta give us offs in there too. All right, we'll 1:59:52.600 --> 1:59:53.720 put the Stay tuned for. 1:59:53.720 --> 1:59:57.720 The pole soon, Stay tuned for the pole. Leave comments jewels. 1:59:58.640 --> 2:00:04.600 Mm hmm. I like it. I like the suggestion. Just 2:00:04.680 --> 2:00:06.320 reminds me too much. Of the family Jewels. 2:00:06.880 --> 2:00:09.600 I know we've probably heard that a million times. 2:00:09.880 --> 2:00:12.320 So may every little kid. You just think they were 2:00:12.400 --> 2:00:14.640 so funny. When I first we didn't, I'd be like, Hey, 2:00:14.720 --> 2:00:19.040 my name's Julian. People call me jewels. I'm like family jewels, 2:00:22.960 --> 2:00:23.880 Like what the fuck? 2:00:24.400 --> 2:00:24.680 God? 2:00:26.280 --> 2:00:29.320 Yeah, dude, family jewels, I'm like balls, got them? 2:00:31.920 --> 2:00:32.120 Well? 2:00:32.680 --> 2:00:36.720 What an episode? Thanks again to Gary. That was a 2:00:36.800 --> 2:00:39.040 fun episode. 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