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Speaker 2: Tight End Folks, Massachusetts native. My name is Gary Goleman, Gary.

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Speaker 1: Goldman, Gary Gorman. He's a gentleman, Gary Golvin, Gary Goleman.

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Speaker 1: In studio, we're looking at the Squish the Fish game,

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Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty five AFC Championship between England Patriots and

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Speaker 2: Who ever would have believed in the early part of

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Speaker 1: There's no way We're gonna be Miami, who were happy

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Speaker 2: We had not won a game in Miami in eighteen years,

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Speaker 2: that's my entire lifetime.

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Speaker 1: There was a feeling of momentum and death. Say so,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting the chilse.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting the chills that you remember that it was

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Play Games with Names is a production of Ihearts Radio

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games with Names, presented by Win Bett, and

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Speaker 1: on today's episode, we are talking the nineteen eighty five

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Speaker 1: Dolphins with Gary Goleman. Good episode Patriots before Tom Brady Talk.

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Speaker 1: The reason New england Ers are so funny, not just

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Speaker 3: It's because they're miserable.

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Speaker 1: They're happily miserable, Kyler. They they are happily miserable. Just

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Speaker 1: like I am. I am one of you New England,

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Speaker 1: And that's what we like to call the transition to

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Speaker 1: the next segment of what we're talking about in this episode,

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Speaker 1: the transition of Gary Goleman from football to comedy guy

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Speaker 2: narrowing it down to naming the studio.

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Speaker 4: We'll come to a consensus. A consensus may be met.

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Speaker 2: January twelfth, nineteen eighty six, Miami Orangepool Stadium, Miami, Florida.

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Speaker 2: Don Shula and Dan Marino our game away from heading

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Games and Names presented by win Bet. Today

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Speaker 1: we have a very special guest, Gary Goleman in studio,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chernobyl meltdown my word. Well, they knew they were

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Speaker 2: He hit it. He's got it today.

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Speaker 2: And so clearly Boston College is your spot. I let yeah,

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Speaker 1: Every kid and just to see talk about humble and yeah,

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Speaker 1: a good man.

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Speaker 2: His dad was.

442
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: It was a nut, but he was doing something right. Yeah,

443
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, you know you look at that.

444
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Marcus Allen was the NFL m VP because that

445
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: that was Raiders Allen.

446
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, Raiders Allen. Yeah, high knees. Yeah, he was

447
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 1: a stud. I remember a lot on the T. Yeah,

448
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: he played for a long time.

449
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: Hes a winner two, Yeah he was Yeah at usc

450
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 2: USC Yeah, they have the most, right with six or not.

451
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 1: We just had linerd On he was dropping right Liner

452
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: Liner the lefty. Yeah with Reggie Bush.

453
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Speaker 3: Oklahoma's got seven Oklahoma, Wow, Kyler.

454
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Speaker 2: In Ohio.

455
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: In usc all right, Alo, they all have a lot.

456
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 2: They're all very good.

457
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: The Celtics lose four two to the Lakers in the

458
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Speaker 1: eighty four finals. You remember this, I do.

459
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: Remember that because we won the first game by thirty

460
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: four points, I think, so it was they were already

461
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: burying the Lakers and they were gonna have to break

462
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: up the team. And then the Lakers won in six games,

463
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 2: which it was very depressing. But the Celtics came back

464
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 2: so strong in eighty six and put on the floor

465
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 2: one of the greatest teams of all time. And I

466
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 2: put them against up there with the with the last

467
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: Dance Bowls and some of the Warriors teams. I mean

468
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: they were, but the Lakers were incredible back then. And

469
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: then the other thing that was very sad was was

470
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: that the Bias then bias thing. So we won the

471
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 2: NBA Championship, but then we had the draft. Took him

472
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 2: second behind Brad Dougherty from UNC and he played at Maryland,

473
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: and I remember thinking, this guy is just as good

474
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 2: as and I'm not a person who exaggerates or hyperbole.

475
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,959
Speaker 2: I was like, this guy is as strong athletically as

476
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: as Michael Jordan. Will you have the drive? Who knows?

477
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: But then we found out. I remember my friend Mike

478
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: Murphy called me up. He said, Gary, did you hear

479
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: that Len Bias side? And I said, that's not funny?

480
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: How was it? How was that a funny joke?

481
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: And so I think, now that I think about it,

482
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: that's probably my JFK moment is finding out that Len

483
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: Bias died from CNN, which was like this brand new

484
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: news network at the time. And then yeah, and then

485
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: the fall, so the so the Patriots losing the Super Bowl,

486
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: and then the Fall the Red Sox lost to the

487
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: Mets and Bill Buckner's era. That was just like I

488
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: was literally crying, Like who cries over a ballgame? But

489
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: I cried that the Red Sox lost it. It felt

490
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: like like a death.

491
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Speaker 1: I cried when the goddamn rally monkey came and beat

492
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Speaker 1: my Giants. Really yeah, like three to two, right the.

493
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Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, Oh my gosh, Oh I got it. Yeah,

494
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's crazy. How fandom really in community?

495
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know the supporters as sports, I mean,

496
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 2: it was much more prevalent in our days. Sure, I

497
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 2: mean it's changed just because information and people have a

498
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 2: lot of different you know, interest these days.

499
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're and you can have different interests these days.

500
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: He used to be just sports, No.

501
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: But sometimes they're rooting for things such as the gambling outcomes,

502
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 2: but also how their fantasy teams been doing, which which

503
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: I played one year and the guys were so cutthroat

504
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 2: that I vowed never to do it again. And yeah,

505
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: you know, I played with Kyler. We have a we

506
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: have a Coast Productions fun team.

507
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: And how you doing, Jeels, I'm middle of the pack.

508
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm six and six right now. I need to do

509
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: a couple of trades. But I mean I'll go on

510
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: and just putting content. I'll go on thinking I'm doing

511
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: something smart, watching on a guy that you know might

512
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: have a oh yeah game coming up. Yeah, like thirty

513
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: guys got them waved already. They must have been on.

514
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: Like these guys are putting serious hours into this thing.

515
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that was the thing that they were

516
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: putting way more hours. I got a I gotta go

517
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: to the grocery. I have a life, goddamn it. Yeah,

518
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Kyler, you giggle, you're picking up all those

519
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: good little running backs.

520
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 2: Should I pull up the stands? No?

521
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: Leave it there there. Well, let's set to the stage

522
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: for the Miami Dolphins. Okay.

523
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 3: So the nineteen eighty five Miami Dolphins, uh led by

524
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 3: Hall of famers Don Shula Dan Marino, went to the

525
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,719
Speaker 3: Super Bowl year before right, yep again and lost to

526
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 3: the feig nine Ers and then also Hall of famer

527
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 3: Dwight Stevenson Center get some o line love. They were

528
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: coming off a season in Super Bowl, right, they lost

529
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers. That was the year Dan Marino

530
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 3: threw for forty eight touchdowns, so they were filing themselves.

531
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Speaker 3: Dan Marino held out in training camp this year more money,

532
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 3: and so the Dolphins had a bit of a slow

533
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 3: start and then they kind of picked it up late

534
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 3: in the season.

535
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: They were out.

536
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 3: They had seven straight wins, including a all time matchup

537
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Speaker 3: against the eventual Super bowlchampions, the eighty five Bears on

538
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,959
Speaker 3: a Monday night game, which at the time was considered

539
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: one of the greatest and most watched Monday night football

540
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 3: games of all time.

541
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Speaker 1: Surpassed by that Rams Chiefs Ones A couple.

542
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: Of years ago. Everyone was like, I think, yes, that

543
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 2: was some game. That was a crazy game.

544
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we played them on Sunday Night Football, like a

545
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: couple of weeks later, I think, or some primetime game.

546
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: It was forty to forty three.

547
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: It was yeah, no, they put up I mean, but

548
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: the Miami Dolphins at that time were a modern offense

549
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: like what we see now, throwing so much and and

550
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: whereas the Patriots were grinding it out and and that, Yeah,

551
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: that was the matchup in in that playoff game. This

552
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 2: was like the era. But mock Mock Dupa and Mock

553
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 2: Clayton would just they would make circus catches. And another

554
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: game that I remember from my childhood. I wonder if

555
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: you've ever seen highlights of this was the Chargers versus

556
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. It was Fouts, yes, Dan Fouts versus Dan Marino,

557
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: and it was either overtime or last second play, and

558
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: it was It was considered one of the one of

559
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: the great games of all time. Like the final score

560
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: was in the forties but maybe either a touchdown or

561
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: field goal separating, and it was just it was really

562
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: inspiring these guys. I remember Kellen Winslow being carried off

563
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: the field with two guys. Like remember that old thing

564
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: where there was no stretcher. You would just have your

565
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: teammates kind of you would put your arms around them

566
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 2: and they would kind of hobble you off the field.

567
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: The guys had jobs in the off season too.

568
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, it was like the Civil War

569
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: where they would just put a splende and you would

570
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 2: bite down on a stick while they while they chopped

571
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: off your foot.

572
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: Well, they'd obviously give you a shot of you know,

573
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: gramozel cough medicine.

574
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 2: That was your your number totally. They would get you

575
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: drunk first and then yeah and then amputatee and then

576
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 2: they would throw in some dirty ass alcohol into the yes, yes,

577
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: and then you would go back out there with missing,

578
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: missing a foot and an elbow.

579
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Speaker 3: So that game was called the in Miami Chargers one

580
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 3: forty one to thirty eight place January second, nineteen eighty

581
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: two in the Orange Bowl, which our game is in. Also,

582
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 3: it's a fun fact Dwite Stevenson was also in that

583
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: team too.

584
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Speaker 1: Wow, thank you, Kyla. You're a great producer here.

585
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: This is you're missing Jack.

586
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: You're missing Jack? Oh?

587
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: Really yeah, I'm filling in.

588
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: Oh killing in.

589
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: Well we got to look at four three. Yeah, that's

590
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: very nice that Kyler gave a shout out to Jack. Well,

591
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 2: what's what's your thoughts on the city of Miami. It's it's, uh,

592
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: it's not my speed. I'm a I'm a I'm a

593
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: stay at home guy, and so I don't really like

594
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: to stay out late in the party scene. But I

595
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: recognize that, I recognize the draw in terms of the

596
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: the uh quality of the personnel in the in the

597
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: clubs and the and.

598
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: The bars and and quality. Yeah, there's some high quality there.

599
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: And I understand that it's a very lucrative place to

600
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: live for a professional athlete because you don't have to

601
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: pay the state taxes. But I really I like the

602
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: Northeastern cities to live in, although I lived in Los

603
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: Angeles for six years and I loved it. Yeah, really

604
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 2: really good people. They say everybody's yeah, they got everybody's phony.

605
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: But if you find your group, you're finding some of

606
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: the best of wherever they came from.

607
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, I believe that, yes, but I love That's

608
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: what people always ask me, the difference between like East

609
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: Coast in LA West Coast. I'm from the Bay Area,

610
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: so it's completely different up there, but it's it's Yeah,

611
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: people on the East Coast are meaner.

612
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what you're getting right, Yeah, So

613
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: that exactly not a lot of bullshit. Yeah, there's no agenda.

614
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, no one wants to say hi because it's fucking

615
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: three degrees outside.

616
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: You got to shovel your goddamn car. They're more real.

617
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm getting off of you. I

618
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: and I only spent a small amount of time with him,

619
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Speaker 2: but he was very similar to you. When he's a

620
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: Bay guy, I shouldn't say he's a big guy. He's

621
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: a California lifelong person, lived in LA but Bill Walton

622
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: from the UCLA and I guess grew up in San Diego.

623
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: But then then Bill Walton.

624
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: And he just, I mean, has lived one of the

625
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: all time legendary lives in terms of his the time

626
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,239
Speaker 2: of his existence and the people he intersected with. And

627
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: he's just really like I remember telling him what an

628
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: inspiration he was, and he was like, I had great

629
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: coaches and great family and it sounds like you you

630
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: always come off so humble, but you've lived one of

631
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: the great lives so well. I mean, it's really nice.

632
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: It's refreshing. I appreciate that. But I'm just telling you,

633
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 2: you know, that's I believe that.

634
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And no one gets to anywhere by themselves, right,

635
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: and there's always a support system of something or a

636
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: group or a friend, a mentor coach. But it's nice

637
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: for people to hear that.

638
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that.

639
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 3: No, I mean, it's amazing. You brought up Bill Walton

640
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: because I just mentioned Jack, who normally does this. He

641
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 3: sets up these rundowns and he had Bill Walton in

642
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: the sports and really because Bill Walton signed with the Celtics. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

643
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm going to cut it. I

644
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: don't know about Bill Walton. We wanted to talk about it.

645
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: I love watching Bill Walton that like when it was

646
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: concerts and ship. Yeah, he's always talking about Grateful Dead. Yeah.

647
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: So you're you're in Boston, so you're getting a Pack

648
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: ten game at like ten o'clock and you got Bill

649
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: Walton talking about LSD and yeah about you know, the

650
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: Packed twelve.

651
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: Yes, it's more than color commentary. It's colorful. I honestly

652
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: watched just for me.

653
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: Too, me too. It's kind of like the the show

654
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: on T n T was Shack Yes, Carl, Yeah, I

655
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: don't even watch basketball. I know, I watched the halftime.

656
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: It's this weird sitcom. I love it. Yeah, I love it.

657
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: Charles Barkley is is the funniest athlete I have I've

658
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: ever seen. He's a great dude too.

659
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: Oh really he's that's so nice to hear. That's really great.

660
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: I've heard that. I've heard he's very he's very generous

661
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: and the earth. Yeah, he's so funny.

662
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: My word. He doesn't mean to be always funny though,

663
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: Oh really, no, not always.

664
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: Oh I just love him. What about these Pats?

665
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: Okay, so the nineteen eighty five Patriots, they're kind of identity.

666
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: There was a tough team. They were coached by Raymond Berry,

667
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: which a fun fact about him is he was one

668
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 3: of John Uniteds's favorite receivers back. He was playing Tom

669
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: Cult legend and was a teammate with Don Shula for

670
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: two years in Baltimore.

671
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: As wow, I didn't that makes sense.

672
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: So this is a great defense led by Hall of

673
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 3: Fame and notable jew Andre Tippet. As we mentioned, they

674
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: gave up only eighteen point one points per game and

675
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: had twenty three interceptions. They were both a top ten

676
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: defense and a both top ten offense as well. There

677
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 3: was a bit of a quarterback controversy we talked about

678
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: with Steve Grogan and Tony Eason.

679
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: You can see that they're a tough football team when

680
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: you're starting quarterbacks. Got under sixty percent completion percentage in

681
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: eleven touchdowns in seventeen Yeah.

682
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: Interceptions, yeah, I mean, but look at Craig James was

683
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: oddly some you Yeah, and he was he was an carrier. Yeah,

684
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: and then he became a commentator for the college football

685
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: and on ESPN for a long time and he was

686
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: really yeah, really good. And Stanley Morgan, oh my gosh,

687
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: he was. Yeah, you would have loved him. He was

688
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: the records Yeah, and and for a team that didn't

689
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: throw very much, but if they threw, they were they

690
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: were throwing him. We had some really nice Sadly, we

691
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: lost a tight end named Russ Francis from that era

692
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: who played for the Niners as well. But he was

693
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: he was a man, a wonderful tight end back when

694
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: they used to block a lot.

695
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you know, I do Fox with with Rob

696
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: Gronk and we'll sit and talk and I always pick

697
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: his brain whenever because we'll watch all the games together

698
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: and I have all the TVs. Yeah, sitting there, you

699
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: got Howie Long. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sitting there and

700
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, gron what do you think about this kid?

701
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: He's more of an H back. Go Gronk, what do

702
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,479
Speaker 1: you think about this guy? He's more of an H back.

703
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: He really things that the true tight end position, there's

704
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: only like two to five, two to three that are

705
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: a traditional tight end that could sit up on the

706
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: end of the line of scrimmage block of nine technique. Right, wow,

707
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There's not many guys that

708
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, a lot of these guys. It's become

709
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: a pass catching position. Oh, it's an extra wide receiver. Yeah,

710
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You get big total livers

711
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: and then you're playing the personnel group game, and now

712
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: they don't have to block the ends anymore. They can

713
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 1: get up on you know, a smaller backer. Oh yeah, game,

714
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: it's completely changed.

715
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's so much faster it is. I can't

716
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: get over it sometimes, Gary, How was how was your

717
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: blocking when you put it awful? My blocking was My

718
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 2: blocking was awful. My technique was was awful. I relied

719
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: on being able to jump very high and I had

720
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 2: good hands, but my my blocking, I could never do it.

721
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: They used to call it a reach block. Yeah, and

722
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: that and that yeah, and that's a really that's a

723
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: really hard block. And also when I was in high school,

724
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: they didn't want you to use your hands. They wanted

725
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: you to block with your shoulder, so that yes, the flippers. Yeah,

726
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: so you would get called for a holy call. And

727
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: then when I got to college that you were allowed

728
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: to use your hands and get in there, and it

729
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: was it was a very difficult adjustment. And then the

730
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: other thing going from a high school to college was

731
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: that you you had to In high school, they.

732
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 1: Just threw the ball high you caught it.

733
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: In college, it was like, well, if the if you

734
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 2: have a rolled up corner, then you have to make

735
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 2: this dission, this decision, And I was like a rolled

736
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: up what now? I was It was really hard to

737
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: keep up with it with the playbook and it wasn't

738
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: as sophisticated as your playbook.

739
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: No, but at every every level that you go up, yeah,

740
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: it's a big jump. Yeah. I can remember, Yeah, going

741
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: from high school to junior college and I was a

742
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: jump just as athletes. Yeah, and you know you do

743
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: well in junior college you go to everyone was the best.

744
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 2: In their area.

745
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you go to that and it's like you

746
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: have to learn a new language.

747
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. But the idea that football players are any athlete

748
00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: are our meatheads is so false and insult thing because

749
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: the level of intellect and the decision making, the quickness.

750
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: Not to mention the kinetic genius that you guys have,

751
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: but anybody I know they make fun of gronk, but

752
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: anybody who can do these these reads is has it

753
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: has an intelligence. Maybe not for chemistry and physics, no,

754
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: but right, but for for the movement and also just

755
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 2: the decision making quickness is really impressive.

756
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: I played in the league for twelve years. I played

757
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: with some meat heads. Really, they couldn't follow the the.

758
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 2: There's there's like maybe one to three guys on a

759
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: team that are just either so big, so fast, I

760
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: see strong.

761
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: I see physically. They were able to dominate and do that.

762
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: They won't do it for a long time now, right,

763
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 1: you know because people learn your moves when you get

764
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: on film, yes, and people can prepare for it, yes,

765
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: but you know they can sneak out. There's some meat

766
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: heads that can sneak out a couple of years. All right,

767
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: all right, thanks for thanks for nobody. Also I also

768
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: say that too, Like, uh, I got a little disappointed

769
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: in Meryl Streep because I was a huge Meryl Streep fan,

770
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: still am. But when she went on the she won

771
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: an award for Best Actress or something. It was like

772
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: five years ago or something, and she goes she called

773
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: out the athlete community, like where the arts were this?

774
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: And I go, you know how artistic it is to

775
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: be able to have this vision, to be able to

776
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: set up a block, do a spin move that's like

777
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: that's a person's art.

778
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

779
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: You know, like you said that kinetic art, yeah, movement, yes, yeah,

780
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 1: you see some of these guys run. Yes, they're big, strong, fast,

781
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: but they have footwork like a ballerina.

782
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 2: It wasn't a coincidence that Jerry Rice dominated Dancing with

783
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: the Stars. Yeah, yeah, right right, because he's an artist. Yeah,

784
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: there were a lot of There were a lot of

785
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: players who who could have been equally impressive and dance

786
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: or things like that.

787
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Emmit Smithton boll too. Yeah, Oh my gosh, it

788
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: was awesome. Yeah, won great feet.

789
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get offered every single year to be on

790
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 3: that show.

791
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: I'm not going on Dancing with the Stars. Good for you.

792
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: If I got to go there, we got problems. I

793
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: love Dancing with the Stars. I'm a big fan, but

794
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: let me let me like doing this.

795
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: No, you can do your you can use your brain

796
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: in your mouth to do great things.

797
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: And Meryl Streep, you know, are still a fan. But

798
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: you know it hurt me.

799
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: No, I get that. That is hurtful. And there's part

800
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: of the country. I love UFC. In the NFL. Where

801
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: are the arts artistic? It is narrow. She didn't have

802
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 2: to she didn't have to take bring us down. Yeah,

803
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 2: exactly exactly.

804
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: So to wrap up this Patriots team, a little bit

805
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: of quarterback controversy. Grogan was up and down his whole career.

806
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: They drafted Tony Easton in a pretty incredible nineteen eighty

807
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: three draft class for quarterbacks. John Lway, Jim Kelly, and

808
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: Dan Marino was drafted actually after Tony Easton, so Eason

809
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: won the job start of the year. I believe two

810
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 3: and three separated his shoulder.

811
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: Say those guys again real quick, I'm sorry.

812
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: So the whole draft class, you know, just the three

813
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 3: guys that were before him, John Elway at first overall,

814
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: Jim Kelly at fourteen, who was after him. Dim Reno

815
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: was after Tony. So Tony Gyson was drafted to fifteen.

816
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: Little problem with his nose, if.

817
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. And wasn't the Bears quarterback

818
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: in that draft class too.

819
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 3: Also was Todd black Legs and Ken O'Brien. Where the

820
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: other people drafted in the first round. I don't know

821
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 3: about McMahon. I can come back on McMahon. So there's

822
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: a little controversy with the quarterbacks. Easton goes down to

823
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: the shoulder, Grogan comes in. They win six games in

824
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 3: a row, and then Grogan breaks his leg and a

825
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: lot overtime loss of the Jets and then Easton comes

826
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: back in and then finishes out the season. Also would

827
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: be remiss if we don't mention Hall of Fame Patriot

828
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: legend John Hannah.

829
00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: This is dog Hannah from Alabama, Hannah from a BAM.

830
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean that was how desperate we were for

831
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: superstars that we were in love with an offensive lineman guard.

832
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 1: He was different though.

833
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: That's tight though, Yeah, that's tight. I loved him. I

834
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: love I always clicked with the line like I love

835
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: Logan Mankins. Yeah, I love Logans. Yeah, of course, just

836
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: the dude. I like Matt Light and Matt they were

837
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 2: really good guys too. That the interesting wrestler. Yeah. The

838
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: interesting thing with the offensive lineman, and I'm sure this

839
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: is not unique to Boston College was how close they were.

840
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: And and and they were real family.

841
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: And because they're they're not getting all the all the

842
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: notoriety and everything like that that but they're doing all

843
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: the hardest work you got to win the game. And

844
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: they never touch a football.

845
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 1: No, they're the ultimate selfless team player. Yeah, don't say much.

846
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: They all hang out by each other. Yeah. Yeah, and

847
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: their average life expectancy is like thirty nine.

848
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like professionals. They're like wrestlers, right, they're they're

849
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: like professional wrestling.

850
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: It's changed. It's changed because you see him. All these

851
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: guys now, as soon as they're done, they shed sixty pounds.

852
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yes, yes, you know, yeah, more a lot

853
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 2: more information these days.

854
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: No, it's true.

855
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 2: You know. Back in the day, they yeah, keep it eating.

856
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 3: So John Hannah said of this season, my goal was

857
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 3: to play sixteen years. And during that season nineteenighty five

858
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 3: eighty six, I had a torn calf muscle, two torn

859
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: rotator cuffs, and they'd blown up knee. They repaired both

860
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 3: shoulders at the same time. When I went to get

861
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 3: my knee done, my cartilage looked like sand. My femur

862
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 3: was wearing down. I was told by the doctor that

863
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 3: if I had a job I could do outside of football,

864
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: I should go do that.

865
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: And that's what I did.

866
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 5: Wow.

867
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough. The shoulder, knee. Oh, surgeries, I can't imagine.

868
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:54,479
Speaker 2: I'm very lucky. Wow, twelve surgeries. It's like every off

869
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: season it's like going into the get a pit stop.

870
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: Man. When you know the radiologists and the nurses by name, Yeah,

871
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: hey Mary, are you doing it right? Oh? Man? Did

872
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: you give me a little extra scoop on that one?

873
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god? But I will say going, I have

874
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 2: gone under and those when you're counting down.

875
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: That's a man that feels good.

876
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: Just go sleep. Sleep The best note tossing and turning

877
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 2: just ten, I'm out, Michael Jackson and Prince is that?

878
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: What is that?

879
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 5: Was that too?

880
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: I think so?

881
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

882
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: RP Alright, Uh, let's set the stage of this game

883
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: first we get to the game. What was the whole

884
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: thoughts of the city of this team just tough team,

885
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: everyone's proud of it?

886
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: Or yeah, I mean it was like I said, it

887
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: felt like a holiday. Yeah, like like we didn't get

888
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 2: school off, but everybody was focusing on that and everybody

889
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: was in a good mood the way. Do you remember

890
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: like Wednesday before Thanksgiving at school, everybody's like even the

891
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: teachers who don't like you are being kind and looking

892
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: out for you. That's what it feels like in New England.

893
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: Maybe get when the when the when the Pat's Red

894
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: Sox Bruins or are going for a championship and we

895
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: we we were not that hopeful that we could win

896
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: in Miami, but there was a chance for a for

897
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 2: a miracle. We had seen what flute he had done

898
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: in Miami recently, and so we were, yeah, we were

899
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: all about this. I think, yeah, there was there was

900
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: maybe a destiny vibes and and sports radio was it

901
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: was basically this guy called Eddie Andandlman in New England.

902
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: He had a show in w hd H and it

903
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: was it was Sunday night, so one night a week

904
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 2: you would hear sports talk and then sometimes Sunday morning

905
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: they were shows. So it wasn't a it wasn't a

906
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: twenty four hour broadcast. There was one broadcast. And remember

907
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: he had a he had a song parody about this

908
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 2: team with all the players because some of the players

909
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: names rhymed like lip It and Tippett although it was

910
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 2: La pet but Andre Tippet, lip It and Tippet, and

911
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: Blackman's a sackman. The d doesn't play, it attacks, the

912
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: Dolphins will go down today to Raymond Berry's pats. That

913
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: was the song. I can't bet I'm getting the chills

914
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 2: that I.

915
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: Remember those that you remember.

916
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and so we and we hadn't won in

917
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: a while. The Red Sox hadn't made the playoffs since

918
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy five.

919
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: So that's ten years.

920
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: That's a lifetime nowadays, right if the Red Sox won

921
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 2: ten years without even making the playoffs and then and

922
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 2: the Patriots had beaten the Jets and then the Raiders,

923
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: so there wasn't there was a feeling of momentum and destiny.

924
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: But we never went in Miami. Eighteen consecutive years of

925
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: losing in Miami.

926
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: So that yeah, so we were ten years.

927
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: We were not we were not convinced they would win.

928
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: And then oh my word, it was the Super Bowl

929
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Speaker 2: for us.

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Speaker 3: So the lead up to this game we kind of

954
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: touch on all of it. Patriots were wildcard team, kind

955
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 3: of a road warrior, beat the Jets on the road,

956
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,040
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957
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,200
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958
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,200
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959
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 3: this was the first team to make it to the

960
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,040
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961
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,120
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962
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 3: it to the Super Bowl. And Gary mentioned too about

963
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 3: this Orange Bowl Jinx. The Pats were oh to eighteen

964
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 3: in the Orange Bowl.

965
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that they had never won there.

966
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: I just thought it was eighteen years in a row,

967
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: which makes sense because the team was not that sixty.

968
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 3: And maybe since nineteen sixty six. I don't know if

969
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 3: they had won one in the past. They did win

970
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: one on the road in Florida in Tampa, but it

971
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 3: was in Tampa onge.

972
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: The Orange Bowl. They owned us the Orange Bowl, I

973
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: mean wow.

974
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: And then leading up to this game from the Dolphins side,

975
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: because of the matchup they had with the Bears, and

976
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 3: everyone was viewing that that was such a matchup and

977
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: this was going to be an incredible Super Bowl over

978
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 3: Dolphins Bears the rematch. Ye offense, great defense, let's go.

979
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 3: So they were kind of looking at and they were

980
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 3: writing a I think a seven or eight game win

981
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: streak into this.

982
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 6: Wow.

983
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: And then also Squish the Fish was selling t shirts

984
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: and yeah, I remember that.

985
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

986
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good fun, it really is.

987
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: And then the game is not a the most remarkable gameplay.

988
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: I think the thing here is a lot of.

989
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: The anticipation kind that's remarkable. Yeah, that's called tough. You

990
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: want to be a tough team. You gotta run the ball,

991
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: you gotta stop. They just gotta cover kicks.

992
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they grounded out.

993
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: It was it was Craig James, Anthony Collins, and this

994
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: guy named Mosy Tatupu who was like a local, a.

995
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:46,280
Speaker 2: Local legend of Samoan legend and and also a Patriots legend.

996
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 2: He could always be counted on to get you the

997
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 2: really tough yards. He was so tough and strong and

998
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: and beloved. There was this group called Mossy's Mooses, which

999
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 2: was like the equivalent of of Like they would make

1000
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 2: a big sheet, put it on and they were fans

1001
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: of this guy who only carried the ball four or

1002
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: five times, but he blocked. He blocked really hard. Yeah,

1003
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: and he was really important to everybody. We Yeah, the

1004
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: blue collar type players are just so beloved in New

1005
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 2: England after all these still that's a big thing. Yeah, yeah,

1006
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: the lunch pail guys, that's what they loved about. Julian Edelman,

1007
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: who was once quoted as saying, I love getting hit.

1008
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: Your young, dumb and full of cup. You don't know

1009
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 1: what you're thinking.

1010
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 2: Now.

1011
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of that. I'm like, oh, it's so stupid. No,

1012
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: but is this not just a perfect display of what

1013
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 1: your city is through football teams?

1014
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 6: Oh?

1015
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: Yes, totally tough, totally top fifty on the round. Yeah.

1016
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: And by the way, you could see that maybe if

1017
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 2: it was in a cold weather game. But to grind

1018
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 2: it out like that when in my end and it

1019
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: was just Tony Easton. He did not throw many many attempts,

1020
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: I mean, and he made most of them. And it

1021
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 2: was basically ball control. And then, and here's the thing.

1022
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: Growing up as a Patriots fan, they were always a

1023
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: run first team. They would run on third down and

1024
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 2: then and then punt on fourth down like they would

1025
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 2: maybe throw sometimes on third down position. But yes, totally,

1026
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: but they they would. Yeah, they weren't a team that

1027
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: would air it out very frequently. And and Grogan I

1028
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 2: thought had a good arm, but they just yeah, they

1029
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: were They were a ball control offense. Yeah, I can't,

1030
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 2: you know, I'm looking at everything. I'm looking at all

1031
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: the numbers. But Don Shula is a handsome guy. No,

1032
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: he had a gorgeous had a wavy hair, and and

1033
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 2: over the years I did. It just drives me crazy

1034
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: that the those old Dolphins guys get to celebrate every

1035
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 2: year when a team loses. It drives me nuts like.

1036
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: That that we had that.

1037
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 2: Yes, I wasn't the I know, but someday it has

1038
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 2: to happen, and if only to to shut those guys

1039
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: up because they're they're smug about it, and they they

1040
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: don't bring into the fact that they did not play

1041
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: a sixteen game regular season and the playoffs run as

1042
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 2: ard to us.

1043
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: That means it's probably never gonna happen. It may never

1044
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: happen because it's eighteen. It'll be eighteen probably in the

1045
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: next three years, right, and you know there's an extra

1046
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: playoff game less byes. Yeah, that's it's that's regardless if

1047
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: it was fourteen or whatever. That's that's an impressive stat

1048
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: just to have guys to be able to get up

1049
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: every week.

1050
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know how it is. No, I know,

1051
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: I know.

1052
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 1: The start of the season, you're excited because it's the start.

1053
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:39,959
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but.

1054
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: Then the days get short, man, it's tough, gets cold. Yeah,

1055
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: your body starts tot you got an ankle, your having

1056
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: all day? Yeah, you know, week seven to twelve, you're

1057
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: sitting there miserable.

1058
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: Sun's gone.

1059
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: You go into work, it's dark, you leave work, it's dark.

1060
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: You see you see the sun or the cloudy grace

1061
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: guys of Foxborough for that's depressing. It's very depressing. I

1062
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: used to have this little light me too. Yeah, the

1063
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: light in my locker the light box. Yes, it's supposed

1064
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: to give you the UV yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's

1065
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: really helpful. But it's and that's the vitamin D supplements.

1066
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: They were huge into that. That's yes.

1067
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, most people are vitamin D deficient. Let's do

1068
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: let's do a quick PSA. Yeah, get your vitamin D.

1069
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: Vitamin D, but you also have to have calcium to

1070
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: break down the vitamin D. So don't forget the calcium

1071
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,479
Speaker 1: as well. Oh and needs to be able to break

1072
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: it down.

1073
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So take a calcium supplement as well.

1074
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, because that's what helps the vitamin D get

1075
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: breaking down. That's really helpful.

1076
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 3: Let me wrap it this game. So final score was

1077
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 3: thirty one fourteen. We touched on the big things was

1078
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: Patriots out out rushed the Dolphins two fifty five to

1079
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: fifty six. They you mentioned Tony Easton only had twelve

1080
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 3: pass attempts, but he threw for three touchdowns. Dan Marino,

1081
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 3: you went twenty for forty eight, two touchdowns, two interceptions,

1082
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 3: and there was six total turnovers from the Dolphins for

1083
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 3: this game.

1084
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 2: That is something else. The Marino was as good as

1085
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: it ever got. I'm looking at the face masks and

1086
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 2: they're I mean they're similar to what people wear when

1087
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: they're fencing.

1088
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: Right they are. I don't know how they ever saw

1089
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: I mean that was that's what I grew up seeing.

1090
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, line right, yeah, and.

1091
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: They have those neck rolls and the huge shoulder pads.

1092
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: Now it's as small as you can. Did you wear

1093
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: any knee pets my first three years? I didn't, and

1094
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: they needed it with knee or thigh? Isn't that good

1095
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: just to be faster? I don't know why. I just

1096
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: thought it looked cooler.

1097
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 2: The vanity. Yeah, my word.

1098
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: It was more of all the studs on the team

1099
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: were doing it.

1100
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: I see, you know, I get it. To do that,

1101
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. That makes sense.

1102
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: And then you get a deep thigh bruise and Belichicks like,

1103
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: what the fuck are we go? Jesus So he would

1104
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 1: mandate us. He mandate us in practice, put it in games,

1105
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: you could take them out.

1106
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 2: Was there ever a point where you felt comfortable with

1107
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 2: somebody like that or is it always ill? Yeah?

1108
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, after like my second Super Bowl win, okay, and

1109
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: like a historic catch, then I felt like I could

1110
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: crack a joke at them.

1111
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1112
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: I just always every experience in to this day.

1113
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 2: My high school coach and anybody who coached me in college,

1114
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: I still call them coach, and I still want to

1115
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 2: make them proud and please them.

1116
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: I still Isn't it interesting?

1117
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 2: It is?

1118
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: But I mean, but they really were so meaningful to us.

1119
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: I mean, especially at our at our youngest ages, they

1120
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: mold your your outlook. And I don't think everybody should

1121
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: play a sport, but you should play something where you

1122
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 2: have to rely on somebody for mentorship and guidance and

1123
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: also something that somebody helps you improve at something.

1124
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's a great lesson, right I think

1125
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: there's so many life lessons, Like I have a six

1126
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: year old right now, and I love that she's in

1127
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: soccer teams, she does gymnastics, tennis. The life lessons you

1128
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: learn in a team sport or I think so much

1129
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: on a different page, just because in life, you're not

1130
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: going to go through this thing alone. And anything you do,

1131
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: you have a job, you are this a You're gonna

1132
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: need other people, and so you need to learn at

1133
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: a long young age how to work with people. You

1134
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: need to learn at a young age to rely on

1135
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: other people. You need to learn at a young age

1136
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: that people are going to rely on you. You need accountability.

1137
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: You're going to learn how to compete. You're going to

1138
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: learn how to set goals. You're going to learn how

1139
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: to sacrifice and all these things. Like as soon as

1140
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: she gets old enough where she can make her own

1141
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: decision that she don't have to play, but at least

1142
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: you'll have that instilled in her and she'll feel that

1143
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: and then she can go to what she wants. Yeah,

1144
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 1: I love it right now. It's not a this isn't

1145
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: a democracy a dictatorship.

1146
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 2: That's good. But I mean the other thing, And maybe

1147
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 2: it's obvious, but it was. It was unusual I think

1148
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 2: when I grew up in the nineteen seventies in a

1149
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: community that was that.

1150
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: Was mostly white people with people. Yeah, it was white

1151
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: tough people.

1152
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: And then but through basketball and football and and sports,

1153
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 2: I was able to interact with with people who didn't

1154
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: look like me. And it was really it was important

1155
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: to understand, now, they're no different than you, they want

1156
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 2: the same things, They work as hard as you do,

1157
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 2: sometimes harder, and and so that that was very helpful

1158
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 2: in that circumstances.

1159
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 1: Communities, culture.

1160
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I know a lot of people who who

1161
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: are in certain fields that never intersect with people who

1162
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 2: don't look like them, and they're.

1163
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: And and it's really they're missing out. And that's just

1164
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: and they they probably acted a certain way around people

1165
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 1: because they don't have experience. And that's what the sport does.

1166
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: It caused you to experience other people. Yeah, and I've

1167
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: been blessed that way with comedy as well. People have

1168
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 1: different backgrounds and interests and and and and who weren't

1169
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: even born in America. Frequently it's been really cool. And

1170
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: it's really cool because you guys have a common interest.

1171
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, so that's what brings you together. And that's

1172
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 2: and that's the other that's the other thing. They didn't

1173
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: care where you came from, as long as you could

1174
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 2: play or or loved the sport.

1175
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really special. A lot of stuff to

1176
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: be learned from sport. You know, it's definitely not for everyone. No,

1177
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: there's so many No. But it could also be music

1178
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: instruments or something like that.

1179
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 5: That.

1180
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the first thing that comes to mind when

1181
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: you think of this game? After the game, before the game,

1182
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: when you think of this game, I think of my dad.

1183
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 2: I think of my dad because I'm from a divorce family.

1184
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: So he would come on Sundays, and Sundays meant watching

1185
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: the Patriots with him, and he was such a good fan.

1186
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: I never heard him criticize the players.

1187
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: He would be disappointed, he would be sad, but he

1188
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: never said because a lot of New England fans say,

1189
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 2: don't don't follow the Red Sox, don't follow the Patriots,

1190
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: I'll break your heart. But my dad just loved these

1191
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 2: guys and these teams. And I remember how happy he

1192
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: was and how he wasn't a pessimist, which a lot

1193
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: of Bostonians are. He really believed in the team from

1194
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: week to week and it would be become disappointed. And

1195
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: we were just so thrilled by that game and so

1196
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 2: excited about the super Bowl. And the great thing about

1197
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: the mindset back then was that making it to the.

1198
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl was the super Bowl.

1199
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, a dream come true, and we were happy it

1200
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 2: wasn't It wasn't a failure if the team lost, is

1201
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: it now? I feel and I feel for the Buffalo

1202
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 2: Bills fans. Yeah, because it happens four times in a row.

1203
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 2: It's comical.

1204
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: And then what they're going through right now, Yes, you

1205
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: think that this is their time?

1206
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's heartbreaking, but but I just I feel for

1207
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 2: those fans because it's it's uh, you give your heart

1208
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: and soul.

1209
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: You really do those people. I'll tell you right now,

1210
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: those Buffalo fans, they haven't they haven't experienced a lot

1211
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: of success, and they still love their team. They love

1212
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: their team.

1213
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: They've never been.

1214
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: Leaked off so many different ways. Anytime, oh wow, anytime

1215
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: you go into Buffalo from three years old to one

1216
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 1: hundred years old, you're getting the finger after you leave.

1217
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 2: Was there ever something somebody yelled and not in the profanity,

1218
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: but something like I remember just certain things would be

1219
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: yelled from from opposing teams and they would like get you.

1220
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: Like really like Gary your hair or something.

1221
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: It would really be it would be like that hurt

1222
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: my feeling.

1223
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: You want to know what hurt my feelings? When it

1224
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: was a third and eight and all of a sudden,

1225
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: I see a pink dill do get thrown onto the

1226
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: field and it says Brady's dildo. That's what That's what

1227
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: traumatized me. And I sat and watched, Sorry that happened

1228
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: to you. I sit and watch the referees. They're sitting

1229
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: here having a discussion on how to get it off

1230
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: the field. One's kicking it off. They don't know what

1231
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: to do.

1232
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 2: It was that. That's what I remember from the Buffalo, Buddy,

1233
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1234
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: It was so big.

1235
00:59:54,320 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: Yes, as the Beastie Boys, I think toured with that.

1236
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: So the Patriots went on to Super Bowl ten or twenty,

1237
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: super Bowl twenty at their first in franchise history, the

1238
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: first X rated.

1239
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first extra Oh my gosh, truly, there was wow.

1240
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,959
Speaker 2: Literally that was on the field.

1241
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: I was actually impressed with the fan that imagination to

1242
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: sneak this thing in because it's not easy getting nuts

1243
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: into that stadium. No, that's really impressive.

1244
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I don't want to I don't

1245
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: want to make any any guesses that where it.

1246
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: Was hiding it. The Patriots lost to the Bears, the

1247
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: eighty five Bears with that Super Bowl shuffle, sweetness the

1248
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: Fridge or McMahon, that beautiful defense, that forty six defense,

1249
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 1: forty six to ten, but they were winning three Ryan,

1250
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: Buddy Ryan, they carried him off the field. Yep, carried

1251
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: him off the field. Yeah. I love Buddy Ryan. I

1252
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: like the Ryans too.

1253
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 2: I know U.

1254
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: I saw Rex at the Belmont when he was still

1255
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 1: the head coach of the Jets. Oh wow.

1256
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 2: And it was right after that whole foot thing, that Welker.

1257
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we were all there.

1258
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: That was really funny, man, it was that was next level.

1259
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: It was funny. We ended up losing though, but yeah,

1260
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: we were.

1261
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: He was.

1262
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: He was great about it. He's a fun guy.

1263
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1264
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: He seems like he has a really good sense of humor.

1265
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then his brother, I saw him, he's the

1266
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 2: same way. It's just it's such such rich in history

1267
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 2: of that family. Yeah. Really, this generation more than the

1268
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: the guys in the seventies and eighties. I do like

1269
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: seeing the guys after the game hugging each other from

1270
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: the opposing teams.

1271
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: It's basketball.

1272
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 2: I know it upsets the old school people, but these

1273
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: guys understand what they went through. And it's not like

1274
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: they're they're letting up because they're playing somebody they went

1275
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 2: to camp with or college with. They want to just

1276
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: for the sake of their own integrity and there and

1277
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: they and their egos beat them, and and so I

1278
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: I understand. It's like the boxers who hug at the end.

1279
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: Nobody understands what they went through. Like like I remember

1280
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 2: one of my favorite matches of all time was uh

1281
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 2: no Drago Balboa when when the Balboa I feel I

1282
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 2: feel he brought it was. It was gonna end, but

1283
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 2: he sped it up. He sped it up.

1284
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 1: It was more diplomacy.

1285
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: But that didn't hurt. What what was the line.

1286
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: Can change? Yes, yes, change is good. Yeah, yeah that

1287
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: was when of That was a really good documentary. But

1288
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 1: getting back to after the game, after the game, yes,

1289
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: I understand what other guys go through, and there's a

1290
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: there's a respect. Yeah, there's always a respect because I've

1291
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: been in every situation on that field, a guy trying

1292
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: to make the team, guy trying to earn a role,

1293
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: the guy that's trying to keep up his expectations that

1294
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: the standards that he's made for himself have been on

1295
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: every side of that. Sure, but before game, oh yeah,

1296
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: we can't talk. No no, no, no, no, no no

1297
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: talk No. I can only sneer at you, thank you?

1298
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no one hundred after.

1299
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 2: Game all shake your hand if we win. I would

1300
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: if we win. Frequently, when if we lose, I used

1301
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 2: to just literally get off. Yeah yeah, frequently I would

1302
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 2: box and I would I would tell my opponent I

1303
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: must break you.

1304
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 1: I must break you. That wasn't me. I mean, draga,

1305
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: what's it?

1306
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 2: I remember this one fighter had a prediction for the

1307
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 2: fight and his prediction was pain. Yes, Lang was one

1308
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 2: of the all time heavyweights. I don't care what you say.

1309
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 2: Some people love Tyson, other people Ali, but Lang one

1310
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 2: of the all time w you see champions. Yeah, you

1311
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 2: just talking about his wife talking about Oh my god,

1312
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 2: he had to go to l A yeah and get

1313
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 2: a little get a little brother life in to get

1314
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 2: his rhythm. Yes, oh my god, I love that woman.

1315
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: That was one of the low key, one of the best, oh,

1316
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: one of the the most watchable.

1317
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: I mean it was one of the best fights of

1318
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: all time.

1319
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love the training.

1320
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: There is no tomorrow, Julian, there is no there is

1321
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: no tomorrow.

1322
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: You know that.

1323
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:31,439
Speaker 1: That's that was And once again, like my career goes

1324
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: into these rocky movies.

1325
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 2: Yes, you know what I mean.

1326
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: There's there is a time where you're doing the magazine covers, yeah,

1327
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: and you're you're living on cloud nine and the wrestling

1328
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: thunderlips thunderlips, Yes, and then all of a sudden you

1329
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: get hurt or something. There's something that happens, you lose

1330
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: your confidence and you gotta you gotta build it back.

1331
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: Confidence is every a big percentage of the game. How

1332
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: do you How do you build your confidence? It's a

1333
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: it's a constant struggle.

1334
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 2: But I do gain confidence by thinking of things that

1335
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: I initially I wasn't able to do and then do

1336
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 2: it easily without thinking. From tying your shoes to making

1337
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 2: free throws to dunking a basketball, all these things in

1338
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 2: your life that you're like, I can't do it, I

1339
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: can't do it, and then you don't give up. It's

1340
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 2: like that that San Antonio Spurs thing where you you

1341
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 2: hammer the stone every day and it doesn't even crack,

1342
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,959
Speaker 2: there's no evidence, and then years later it cracks wide

1343
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 2: open and it's just like, keep pounding that rock every day.

1344
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 2: And so it's I think my confidence is that John

1345
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,919
Speaker 2: Wooden idea, the preparation and giving it all and then

1346
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 2: what else can I What else can I do? Yeah?

1347
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 2: That pyramid of success, man, it still holds up and

1348
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: it was written in the fifties. Yeah.

1349
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, I always uh, you know, as an athlete,

1350
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 1: you know you deal with confidence because you you know,

1351
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: especially when when you play on a team like New

1352
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: England because there's there's a standard. Yeah, like you know,

1353
01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, if we don't win a super Bowl, it's

1354
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: a failure at least when we were playing when I was,

1355
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: when I was on that team.

1356
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1357
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: So you for me, if I would ever lose the

1358
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: confidence if I dropped a ball or something, you know,

1359
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 1: I didn't perform a certain way in a game, or

1360
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: I missed a couple of.

1361
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 2: This or that.

1362
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: For me, I would just always go back to the fundamentals.

1363
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: I would think, I hear my dad in my in

1364
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 1: my head because my dad's very frank, He's very uh

1365
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: very He was a very tough guy on me. You know,

1366
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: he's the type of guy that you know, i'd go,

1367
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 1: where are you in the birth order?

1368
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm the middle, Okay, tough, I'm the middle. Okay.

1369
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: My brother was seven years older than me too. It's

1370
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: like a different family, different family. So he used to

1371
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: like just Wally Molly wop me. Wow.

1372
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 2: You know, so my sister's three years younger.

1373
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: But you know, he was.

1374
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 2: He was the type of guy that I'd go, I'd

1375
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 2: go work out and he'd come back and I'd.

1376
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 1: Be dying and he goes, you beat those three kids.

1377
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: I'm talking.

1378
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 2: I was working about myself. Dad, He doesn't you're in

1379
01:06:58,400 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 2: the NFL.

1380
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: Now, there's three kids in high school right now that

1381
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 1: are training and that have a picture of you on

1382
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: their wall. Wow, that are thinking about taking your job. Wow,

1383
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: they are thinking about taking your house. And I think, like,

1384
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: that's the kind of stuff. So I always whenever I

1385
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: lost my confidence, I would always just go back to

1386
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: fundamental work. Yeah, work my way out of it, and

1387
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: just try to stack good days together, you know, just

1388
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: you're either getting better or you're getting worse. Sure, and

1389
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 1: if you break everything down in your day to day,

1390
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: if you could stack five good days together and you

1391
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: just keep on competing with That's what I had to

1392
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: do for me. And I had to keep myself in

1393
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: a happily miserable mindset, Like I have this whole thing

1394
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: where we have this merch I sell. It's called happily miserable. Okay,

1395
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: because I was miserable, But I needed to be in

1396
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: that mindset.

1397
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the underdog mindset.

1398
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: The underdog mindset, the world's falling mindset. Like I needed

1399
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: that for me to hone in and keep my focus. Sure,

1400
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, So work was always my my way to

1401
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: get my confidence back. And if you want to improve

1402
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: on something, you know, Belichick would always say this, if

1403
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: you want to improve, you can't just go work hard. Yeah,

1404
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: you can't just go run. You can't just go lift weights.

1405
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah you're you're working hard, but you need to find someone,

1406
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: a mentor coach, a person that can tell you what

1407
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 1: you need to work on.

1408
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: Yes, and then you work hard at that. Wow, And

1409
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 2: that's how Yeah, you know what I mean. So that's

1410
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: how Like that's really inspiring always. But are you able

1411
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 2: to turn it off? And are you able to one

1412
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 2: thing that I always have a hard time? Wasn't It

1413
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 2: reminds me of Bob Knight where he would I remember

1414
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 2: in that book I read The Season on the Brink,

1415
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 2: where he would yell at a player and he said,

1416
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 2: why do I want you to be a better player

1417
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 2: than you want to be? And so there are certain

1418
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 2: mindsets which are hard to be around, especially after they're

1419
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 2: they're not playing athletes, because they hold everybody to high

1420
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 2: such high expectations. And then Kyler pays for it and

1421
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 2: it's true and and you and we have to be

1422
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 2: cause I find that with my my wife sometimes because

1423
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 2: she has artistic pursuits, and I tell her how I

1424
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 2: would go about it, and she's like, stop trying to

1425
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: make me be you and.

1426
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: And let me enjoy this.

1427
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 2: It's it's it's interesting because we we have this, we

1428
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 2: have this discipline that worked for us, and and we

1429
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 2: want to impart it on people.

1430
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 1: But it can be very off putting. I talked to

1431
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: my dad about that all the time.

1432
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, because I have like small businesses and

1433
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 2: you're managing people, and and I go to the factor

1434
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 2: of like how I was managed, Yeah, for twelve years

1435
01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 2: of my life, right, and it was so successful beyond dreams,

1436
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 2: beyond dreams. Yeah.

1437
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 1: And I was never told the things I did well

1438
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: I was expected to, right, I was only told the

1439
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: things I needed to work on.

1440
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. And I and my dad's actually he's

1441
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 2: he's very similar to me. He's small business owners, so

1442
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 2: he's had a lot of experience with people.

1443
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 1: Was he athletic.

1444
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 2: He was, but his dad.

1445
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: Died when he was three, and his mom, you know,

1446
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: she was in and out of marriages. He grew up

1447
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,920
Speaker 1: in a trailer park, so he became a mechanic. At fourteen.

1448
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: He had to help wow, help help out my mom, wow, Grandma.

1449
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: So he always talks me, you know, he always kind

1450
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: of lets me know that you can't live like what

1451
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 1: you're saying. You can't. You have to turn that off. Yes, yeah,

1452
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it's and it's hard

1453
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: for me because I'm still transitioning, yeah, from something I've

1454
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: been doing for two decades, three decades, yeah.

1455
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:58,560
Speaker 2: You know. And it's been like that since I was

1456
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 2: eight years old. Yeah, and it's changed when you get

1457
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 2: to be a professional and then it's all football.

1458
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,800
Speaker 1: You don't have school anymore. You have football school, you know. Yeah.

1459
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 1: So like I mean, that's it's a part of life,

1460
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: is learning what you have to do to improve. And

1461
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: my dad's a good person that helps him with that.

1462
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: But I definitely need to be able to turn it off, sure,

1463
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: you know. And when you have a kid, it helps

1464
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 1: you with that, you know. My dad was a hard ass.

1465
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: My dad was very tough on me because that's what

1466
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 1: dads were like back and he didn't have any he

1467
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 1: didn't have anyone. Yeah, who would have trained him? Yeah,

1468
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: you know so, but he's now the complete opposite now

1469
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 1: now he's the softy. Are you hungry your grandfather? Yeah?

1470
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: Do you need anything. That's so nice.

1471
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 1: Oh look, let me let me rub your feet, like literally,

1472
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: that's great.

1473
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 2: So wow. I mean the pride he must have though, Well,

1474
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: it was a.

1475
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: Team effort my mom as well. You know, she's a

1476
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: stubborn little lady.

1477
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 2: But that's a special thing for mead to have a

1478
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 2: son who els areas. Yeah. My dad, uh, he was

1479
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 2: a huge part of it. Sure, no, I know, yeah.

1480
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 1: My dad's kind of like a Jewish mother.

1481
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 2: That's so cool.

1482
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: Literally, that's great. You know, nothing's ever good enough, but

1483
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: he's always comforting me.

1484
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh that's so nice. Oh my gosh. But in

1485
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 2: the same twisted kind of thing.

1486
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh that's interesting.

1487
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was watching your stand up. Your mom cracks

1488
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 2: me up. Oh thanks man. Yeah, she's she's just quite hard.

1489
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 2: She really is a sweetheart's quite depression. Yeah, he's smiles

1490
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 2: the whole Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. She didn't never met

1491
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 2: a happier kid. Yeah. And then I held up this

1492
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 2: book called The Lonely Yeah yeah, yeah.

1493
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 1: The Lonely Trade. She's just the level of denial.

1494
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 2: But nobody understood back then, nobody knew so I I yeah,

1495
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 2: it's a product of that generation. Yes, exactly exactly, and

1496
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 2: we didn't have that relationship with our parents like kids

1497
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 2: do today where they can go to them and say, listen,

1498
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 2: I feel this way. If you were bullied, you kept

1499
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 2: that to yourself unless there was something you could do

1500
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 2: about it. So yeah, yeah, or try to figure out

1501
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 2: a way to solve these things by yourself, because they

1502
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 2: were working so hard, especially as single mom is is

1503
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 2: just this interesting warrior in America that or on the

1504
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 2: planet that they just have to have to get by

1505
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,520
Speaker 2: and they don't have a lot of time for nonsense.

1506
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: So that's when my dad always tells me when.

1507
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dad, I'm stressed out. You know a lot of

1508
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 2: shit going on. Yeah, you don't know what stresses I know,

1509
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 2: I go, what what are you talking about?

1510
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 1: Dad? I got you know, a lot of shit going Yeah,

1511
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 1: you know what stresses. It's when you have three deaf kids,

1512
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: fifty dollars in your bank account with two hundred dollars

1513
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 1: in bills. Wow, that's who my grandma was. My dad

1514
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 1: has three deaf brothers and sisters. Oh I didn't know that.

1515
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1516
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: So and he's like significantly younger, but yeah, you know,

1517
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: he goes that's stress, and that's a single. Mom.

1518
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 2: Is your grandmother still alive? No, she passed, all right, Mary, Mary,

1519
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: God love her. She was the best.

1520
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get back to the old football then. Yeah,

1521
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: she had a tear over here and thinking about grandma.

1522
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have one quick question, and I think one

1523
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 3: of your specials you mentioned your mom would go to

1524
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 3: a dentistry school to get her teeth done.

1525
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my newest special.

1526
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 3: Does that be you?

1527
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: The Boston University School of Dentistry.

1528
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 3: My grandma did the same thing.

1529
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,440
Speaker 2: Really, Oh my gosh, that's incredible.

1530
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: And it was a nightmare.

1531
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. Yeah, teeth were these poor people couldn't

1532
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 2: afford dentistry. So our family, my mom had a lot

1533
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 2: of dental work. She would go to a school that

1534
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 2: had a school of university that had a school of dentistry,

1535
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 2: and these kids would take their mid terms, but it

1536
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: was my mother's my mother's bridge work and her and

1537
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 2: her molars and things, and they they weren't competent and

1538
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 2: she would be in great pain. And and that's what

1539
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 2: we had to do. Was really I feel for her, man,

1540
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: it was. And the other thing was we would have

1541
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 2: to drive into Boston, which was poor people have cars

1542
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 2: that don't work, so sometimes we break down. Would just

1543
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 2: be on the side of the road waiting for a

1544
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 2: triple A to come, and it was just, oh man,

1545
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 2: it was a it was a nightmare.

1546
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 1: That was before the big dig.

1547
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 2: We'd go over this thing called thest the Mystic, the

1548
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 2: Mystic River bridge, which everybody would call the Mystic River.

1549
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 1: We're going over the Mystic River and and I was like,

1550
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: who is this, mister river?

1551
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 2: And she was a Mystic river? The river We're driving

1552
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: over it to go into Boston. And you had to

1553
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 2: save up money to pay for parking. I remember that

1554
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 2: was part of it. Yeah.

1555
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 1: They on the pike when I was there. Yeah, the traffic.

1556
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and these four people who worked in the tobos

1557
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 2: were just miss miserable. Oh my gosh.

1558
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 3: But there's sweaters though, that Mass Pike sweater I love.

1559
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 2: I did love those. Oh my gosh, I would love

1560
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 2: one of those.

1561
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: Amazing.

1562
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:59,479
Speaker 2: Tyler is an absolute delight, the whole staff here.

1563
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: I really enjoy you people, We enjoy you.

1564
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 2: Thank you. I really appreci I was hoping I was doing.

1565
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: A good job. Now you're doing killing it all right.

1566
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: Dann Marino the best to never win a Super Bowl.

1567
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 2: Who else are we thinking about in terms of I've

1568
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 2: got some names, Sanders, Barry, Sanders, Moss. Yeah, maybe the

1569
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 2: greatest quarterback to never won a Super Bowl?

1570
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 1: Is that possible? Although Jim Kelly was great, but he

1571
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:27,520
Speaker 1: was better than Jim Kelly.

1572
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:31,680
Speaker 2: Jim Kelly was. Man, That's that's a sad story. I

1573
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 2: know it's heartbreaking.

1574
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:34,759
Speaker 3: I thought you're gonna say the cancer.

1575
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah that too, that too, I probably take the dip

1576
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: out of my lip.

1577
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 3: Also Junior, se Bruce Smith, Ladanyan Thomas, and philp Rivers.

1578
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 3: I forgot I played with you. He was a very

1579
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:50,799
Speaker 3: special person.

1580
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 2: He was the nicest guy in the world. Yes, Like

1581
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 2: I remember he We were at Capitol Grill.

1582
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 1: My parents just came in. We were about to play

1583
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: in a playoff game, and I was taking him out

1584
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 1: to dinner on a Friday. This is in December maybe January,

1585
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: so it's freezing outside. Yeah, Junior rolls up in flip flops,

1586
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: shorts and he always wore this hat and his ukulelely

1587
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 1: on his back.

1588
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 2: Seriously serious because he used to be the Capitol girl.

1589
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 2: Every you know.

1590
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 1: That was his flip flops. Flip flops but Hawaiian.

1591
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he grew up in the tropics and he wasn't

1592
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 2: bothered by the mountains.

1593
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: This dud was the most manly man ever. Wow, manly

1594
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: man but soft hearted too. Yes, that's the way he

1595
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: came off. And he and he went up to my

1596
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: parents and we grew up in the Bay Area. There's

1597
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 1: a lot of Polynesian culture, so I grew up with

1598
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 1: a lot of Tongueans, a lot of Samoans, a lot

1599
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 1: of Hawaiians like that was part of my football team

1600
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: and my football life. Oh that's cool. So Junior sayou

1601
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:56,600
Speaker 1: was a god like in California. Sure, because he was

1602
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,800
Speaker 1: on the Chargers. He did, you know, the whole was

1603
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: a usc guy too, you sc guy. And you know

1604
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:03,639
Speaker 1: I got to play with him.

1605
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 2: And he came up to my parents and he and

1606
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 2: he and he goes, mister and mister Edelman.

1607
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: I just want to say, you raised a very great

1608
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 1: young man play a long time in this league. And

1609
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: this was when I was a rookie and I was

1610
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 1: still wow. Yeah, it's incredible to have Junior say out

1611
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 1: come and my dad, you know, he's all shy and

1612
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 1: stuff like, yeah, watch this guy for a long time.

1613
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 1: This was his twentieth year in the league. Yeah, by

1614
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:29,759
Speaker 1: the time I was playing with them. But I remember

1615
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: you stood out in the preseason. You were very promising

1616
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 1: link financial that was that was a big game.

1617
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was Tom's first game back from the

1618
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 2: a c L. That's right.

1619
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: Wes wasn't playing, That's right, My first game in the NFL.

1620
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: My word, any nerves, Oh so nice. I was very nervous.

1621
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 1: I was a very nervous. Yeah, because I cared so much,

1622
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 1: of course.

1623
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you get yeah, and so much was

1624
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 2: was you were so invested.

1625
01:18:56,880 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: So invested, and yeah, especially in that you know, you're

1626
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 1: playing for your job. Yeah, seventh round draft pick. Yeah,

1627
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 1: first preseason game. Yeah, well, didn't play, so they started

1628
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: me and they told me like right before the game.

1629
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 1: So it was kind of like it they test you psychologically.

1630
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 1: I want to see if you can. Yeah, you know,

1631
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 1: Kenny handle that we're gonna tell him twenty minutes before

1632
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: the game that he's gonna have to you know, because

1633
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: a lot of guys can't and they want to see

1634
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: it in the preseason of course, you know.

1635
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 2: And first play it was a kickoff.

1636
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: I went down, I made a tackle and they put

1637
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: me on a kickoff that day went made a tackle.

1638
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 1: Then the first punt return I took to the house,

1639
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: and then the first play.

1640
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,759
Speaker 2: Did you think you were dreaming? I did, right, because

1641
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 2: I have I still have dreams where I where I

1642
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 2: score touchdowns that and to do that on that level

1643
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 2: because it's more competitive, my word, I can't imagine.

1644
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 1: You don't really know either when you're in camp. Yeah,

1645
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of thud. You're not taking to the ground.

1646
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: It's not like college or you know.

1647
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 6: A hit.

1648
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 2: But if Hard Knocks has show on us anything, it's

1649
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 2: that you might get cut even after having an incredible game.

1650
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, yeah, all right, continue, I'm sorry, no, but

1651
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 2: it was just you score that and then you run

1652
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 2: back that the touchdown, and then.

1653
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: It was Brady's first game, so everyone was kind of

1654
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:21,480
Speaker 1: like very nervous because you know, the knee thing. Yeah,

1655
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: and every like everyone's kind of on eggshells. Bill wanted

1656
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,560
Speaker 1: to see our how we were playing, They wanted he

1657
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: wanted to see how Tommy was psychologically, because when you

1658
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 1: go through injury, that first live contact, when you're getting

1659
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 1: real bullets, it's different. You know, sometimes you you don't

1660
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 1: want to.

1661
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 2: Stick your foot and you know there's a lot of

1662
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 2: it goes back to the eye of the tiger.

1663
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: The tiger first play gives me the swing route. He

1664
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: throws me a little swing. I caught his first ball.

1665
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is awesome, this is easy.

1666
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 2: Really. I ended up having a bunch of catches, and

1667
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 2: you know, I had a good game. And next week

1668
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 2: there is something to the ignorance of the brand new

1669
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 2: right where you don't know it.

1670
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: You know, next week it's against Atlanta and I'm still

1671
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: like on the verge of making the team like a

1672
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:10,719
Speaker 1: house to punt. And I had a lot of production

1673
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 1: in the first game. I had a tackle.

1674
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like we had like Randy Moss Wes Welker

1675
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 2: trying to galloway like there's.

1676
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: A numbers, but how many gays are on the team. Yeah.

1677
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: And so the next week I go and I'm returning

1678
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: to punt and I shake off a guy and another

1679
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 1: guy comes in and he my foot gets caught and

1680
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 1: I sprained my ink. I get a high end sprain.

1681
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 1: The worst first play the first play that I got

1682
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: in and I was out for three weeks. And now

1683
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: it's during cut, Yeah, and I'm sitting there stressed out,

1684
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 1: like I don't know if I had enough. You know,

1685
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: it's short term memory with guy. That was four weeks. Yeah,

1686
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: next up. And you know, Billy O'Brien was our o

1687
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,759
Speaker 1: C at the time. I knew him in high school.

1688
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 1: You know, did you he went to Saint John's Prep.

1689
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 2: How was he? Can I tell the truth? Yes, he

1690
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,799
Speaker 2: was an arrogant prick. He's an arrogant prick in high school.

1691
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,599
Speaker 2: I mean, billios a fiery guy. I just he went

1692
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I went to the public school. He

1693
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 2: went to the private school same times preps. So I

1694
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 2: resented him to begin with, and then when he wasn't

1695
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 2: friendly to me, I was like, fuck this guy.

1696
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 1: No, yeah, he can come on. We used to call

1697
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 1: him te Kettle.

1698
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 2: But I knew his wife in college. I was friends

1699
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 2: with Colleen, who was the sweetest woman. So I'm I'm

1700
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 2: talking about how he was in high school, which a

1701
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 2: lot of football players are high school so I'm sure

1702
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 2: he changed. But what was it? Okay, all right, he's

1703
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 2: like that ass while you like, yeah, yeah, no, of course,

1704
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 2: of course I will say this. I respected him, and

1705
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 2: I knew how hard he worked as a as a

1706
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 2: player because he went to Brown. Yeah, and then he

1707
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 2: was a smart guy and he was serious. So I

1708
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 2: liked that, but I I just I don't know. It's

1709
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:56,839
Speaker 2: probably two uh teenage two teenage boys who were like yeah, yeah,

1710
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,560
Speaker 2: but we had a mutual friend who played with me

1711
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 2: at Bosson in college that this guy Mike Panos, who

1712
01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 2: I don't know if you are, if you met him,

1713
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 2: you'd remember him. He's very charming. Anyhow, So you're in

1714
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 2: camp and oh, yeah, a three week injury.

1715
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: And he comes up to me, and the whole week

1716
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,600
Speaker 1: of because cut day is there's a Friday, and then

1717
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: there's a week off. Yeah, where you establish a team

1718
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 1: and it's like the turks in there just taking lives,

1719
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, which wants to see you get your playbook,

1720
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 1: you know that. Like you're sitting in the locker room

1721
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: and guys are just getting plucked. Of course, so you know,

1722
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,520
Speaker 1: Billy Owould was messing with me like, hey, her Buffalo's

1723
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 1: got a good third corner, meaning like I was making

1724
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 1: the team, yeah, but I don't know if you're making

1725
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: the team yet. And I was sitting there like I'm

1726
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 1: like a little kid twenty two years old. Yeah, And

1727
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: finally I went home and I was sitting there by

1728
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 1: my phone the whole time, because they'll still call you

1729
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 1: when you go.

1730
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they never got the call. Amazing, So how

1731
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: did you find out that just by kno getting a call,

1732
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 2: that's the worst. That's how that's worse. Yeah, at least

1733
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,839
Speaker 2: call me tell me making it totally. No, they don't. Wow,

1734
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 2: you just come in and you just was there anybody

1735
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 2: who was the opposite of that, who was saying keep

1736
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,719
Speaker 2: doing what you're doing. I remember my friend Mike Power

1737
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 2: was in the Houston Oilers and Warren Moon took him

1738
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 2: under his wing and said, you keep making those out

1739
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 2: passes because nobody else can make those ones the sideline

1740
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 2: from the pocket, and you keep making those, you're going

1741
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 2: to stand out. And so he made it very far

1742
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 2: in the in the cuts. But was there anybody who

1743
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 2: was like that?

1744
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor really or Fred Taylor? Yeah, of course. So

1745
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,600
Speaker 1: I didn't have a car yet. You know there'd be

1746
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 1: a for training camp, there'd be a six o'clock bus

1747
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 1: you could take from the team hotel Okay to the stadium.

1748
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 1: And so I'm sitting on my on the curb waiting

1749
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,440
Speaker 1: for the bus and Freddie t rolled out and he

1750
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,160
Speaker 1: has a cool old like dope car. He's like, yo,

1751
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 1: a young buck, come with me nice and he brings

1752
01:24:58,120 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 1: me in there and you can see he could see

1753
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 1: that I'm straight because it's such day to day. There

1754
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 1: was two practices a day when I first started, you

1755
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: have double days. You had run game in the morning

1756
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 1: passing the afternoon. So you have like two practices that

1757
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 1: you're thinking about going into the next day, you know,

1758
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 1: because you have to correct everything. Am I gonna get cut?

1759
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 1: I didn't make that block, I didn't make that this. Yeah,

1760
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: So he could see that I was going through my head.

1761
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 1: I was, you know, And he's in a different part

1762
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,640
Speaker 1: of his career where you know, listen is he's on

1763
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 1: the back nine. He's already a superstar. And he gets

1764
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 1: me in the car and he goes, hey, young buck,

1765
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of ups, there's a lot of downs.

1766
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: You just gotta be smoon, You'll be all right. Wow,

1767
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: it's all he said. He's a very very made a

1768
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 1: few words. Yeah that's all he said. And then we

1769
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: sat and he started taking me to practice a bunch

1770
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 1: and you know, but that's what I thought about, like,

1771
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 1: all right, I don't get too high on the highs,

1772
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: don't get too low on the low, Yes, is kind of.

1773
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 2: But but there's something about somebody with your personality and

1774
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 2: drive and humility that people want to look out for

1775
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 2: because you're that makes for a good teammate and and

1776
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 2: for a good person in the locker room to hang

1777
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 2: around with somebody who's not going to be an ego

1778
01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 2: and and so that's a that's a really great lesson.

1779
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 2: And you want to be that. You want to be

1780
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:17,960
Speaker 2: the for the rest of your life. You want to

1781
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: be the Fred Taylor to somebody's Julian Adaman.

1782
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 1: Well and that and that's you know, there were other

1783
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 1: players on the team, you know that weren't like that, sure,

1784
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: because you know this is.

1785
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 2: Blood, blood work. No, of course there's guys there like, hey,

1786
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 2: you're here to take a spot. Yeah, that wouldn't help.

1787
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's once I got to where I was

1788
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: at and I and I established a role and had

1789
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 1: some success, I'd always be tough with the young guys

1790
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:47,280
Speaker 1: because that was when I got there. Everyone the whole

1791
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 1: Patriot way was like making guys accountable, right.

1792
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course you're doing them a favor.

1793
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 1: You see, you see Teddy Bruski working his dick off,

1794
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: and if you're not. He's going to tell you you're not. Wow.

1795
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,560
Speaker 1: If you hear that from him, you're gonna be humiliated

1796
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: the whole day. Wow, you know what I mean?

1797
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,679
Speaker 2: So, like, yeah, I would handle it where I would

1798
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 2: call guys out, but I would always pull him the side,

1799
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 2: like Jacobe Myers, like he would always have.

1800
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 1: He was you know, he was a young player. You know,

1801
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 1: he was an undrafted guy and I saw that he

1802
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 1: could play. Yeah, he just needed you know. Like, so

1803
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 1: I would always bring him the side, and I'm like, yo, yeah,

1804
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 1: don't worry about that they're bitching on this. You just

1805
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: gotta do this, you know what I mean, because you

1806
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 1: know what he's going through. But if there's some little

1807
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 1: arrogant asshole, yeah, of course, yeah. You know there was

1808
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,439
Speaker 1: a few of those, right say, bro, yeah, coach, don't

1809
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 1: ask you a question, don't fucking talk in the room.

1810
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 2: Wow, you know what I mean.

1811
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 1: Let us get our work in yea, because there's some

1812
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: guys that are trying to be hands up coach. Yeah,

1813
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: you know, like you do that, you're kind of showing

1814
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:56,680
Speaker 1: off the other rookie that probably doesn't know what's going on,

1815
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: calling out to me. You're doing good. Because he ain't

1816
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 1: doing Oh wow, there's a whole dynamic in Yes, yeah,

1817
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 1: that's fascinating. Anyone take you under your wing during comedy?

1818
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there were there were so many, so many

1819
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: older guys and and even now, I mean, i've he's

1820
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 2: not that much older than me. But but jud Apatow

1821
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 2: has been such a great mentoring guide. I remember after

1822
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 2: my special airity called me up and he said, you're

1823
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 2: feeling hungover right now, like like let down and what

1824
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 2: else is there? And he said, Uh, you can get

1825
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 2: right out there and try to do even better and

1826
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 2: chase that high all over again.

1827
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 1: But it's a.

1828
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 2: Treadmill that you'll never get off of the only thing

1829
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 2: that we really have that's real is is our friends

1830
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 2: and our colleagues in this and our families and and

1831
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 2: chasing after fame and and that lifestyle is is a

1832
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 2: dead end. And I remember that was so helpful because

1833
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 2: I I didn't think there was anybody else who could

1834
01:28:56,360 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 2: have said that, you're feeling off after some things so

1835
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 2: great happening on HBO and the premiere and all the

1836
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 2: promotion that you do in the interviews, and somebody saying

1837
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 2: and you don't feel that good, right now when everybody's

1838
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 2: telling you should feel so good, that's normal, and don't

1839
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,720
Speaker 2: try to feel good right away. You don't have to

1840
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 2: outdo yourself. You just have to continue to do whatever

1841
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 2: you do to get out of bed and work hard

1842
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 2: every day. But you don't have to to please the world.

1843
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 2: And and sort of there's this thing with with fame,

1844
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 2: and I have friends who are who are involved in

1845
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 2: just having to stoke that fire all the time and

1846
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 2: keeping the public eye and it's relentless, and it's it's

1847
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 2: you have to have a really strong head on your

1848
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 2: shoulders to be able to maintain your integrity and your

1849
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 2: personality through that. And I've heard it compared to looking

1850
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 2: straight into I think Tom Hanks said, fame, you don't

1851
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 2: want to look at right.

1852
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: In the eye, like like the sun. It can burn

1853
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:55,640
Speaker 1: damage you.

1854
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 2: And I remember this this author that like John Updyke,

1855
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 2: said that this this fame is this mask that changes

1856
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 2: your face or burns your face or something like that.

1857
01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:09,240
Speaker 1: And it's a yeah, it's it's it's.

1858
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 2: A double edged sworded it affords us these incredible opportunities,

1859
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 2: but it can also be poisonous. It can be and

1860
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 2: I can I can relate to that from when you

1861
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 2: know we.

1862
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 1: Go out when Super Bowls. Yeah, like my close group

1863
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 1: around me. Yeah, like I you know, you have your

1864
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 1: people that or that see the real you always because

1865
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 1: you know when you go when when you're a person

1866
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 1: under a microscope, you're you're having to be on always. Yeah,

1867
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 1: especially when you leave the house for anyone you're at

1868
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 1: the gas station and ask you this. But I would

1869
01:30:44,120 --> 01:30:46,679
Speaker 1: get into these like we would call it the super

1870
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:52,600
Speaker 1: Bowl saddies, Oh wow, because you go all year yeah,

1871
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:58,519
Speaker 1: and for that one goal, and you would achieve that

1872
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 1: goal and like you're already thinking about the next year,

1873
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: how much harder it's going to be to a team

1874
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 1: that goal again because whenever you have success, now you're

1875
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 1: America's most wanted. Yeah, they're going to play their hardest.

1876
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot more studying going into your game. The

1877
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: people are watching you more, you know, they want to see, right,

1878
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 1: if you could do the you know. So yeah, there's

1879
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:24,719
Speaker 1: those expectations and those standards that you know you're sitting

1880
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 1: there like, man, fuck, we gotta do it again now,

1881
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

1882
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 2: And there are only three or four people on the

1883
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 2: planet who understand how you're feeling. You can't go to

1884
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 2: just anybody and say I won the super Bowl last week,

1885
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm kind of feeling kind of glum.

1886
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 1: Yeah it's true.

1887
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 2: Yeah wow.

1888
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 1: And then you feel bad because you're not happy because

1889
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 1: you just went of course, yeah, there's guilty, bad because

1890
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 1: am I just a miserable fuck?

1891
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:52,040
Speaker 2: No, no, not at all. You're you're you're a human being.

1892
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Gary, do you think if you played football in

1893
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 3: like now generation that you would have? Of course, worts

1894
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:02,719
Speaker 3: in general would have kind of stuck with it further,

1895
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 3: like with how people in mental health is a little

1896
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:06,519
Speaker 3: bit more open. Oh it's sports now.

1897
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting, It's it's possible.

1898
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 2: The only thing is that I think that in order

1899
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 2: for me to have succeeded, I needed to get that

1900
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 2: confidence that Julian was talking about earlier. And and that

1901
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 2: was a big What was interesting was when I stopped

1902
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 2: playing football and went to the coach, he insisted that

1903
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 2: I that I stick it out, and I was like,

1904
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 2: but I'm like the worst player on the on the team.

1905
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 2: But there's something to depression that is that is telling

1906
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:36,759
Speaker 2: you you the worst player on the on the team,

1907
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 2: and and and so with without that aspect, the confidence

1908
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 2: and and physically I was I could jump and jump higher,

1909
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 2: run faster than everyone at the tight end position. But

1910
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 2: mentally I felt like a like a grasshopper. I was

1911
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,679
Speaker 2: that I was, that I was incompetent, I was incapable,

1912
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:57,720
Speaker 2: and I would get overwhelmed and I would I would

1913
01:32:58,280 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 2: one of the things. I don't know if this ever

1914
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 2: happened to you, but I would get to the line

1915
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 2: of scrimmage knowing that the snap count and then fuck.

1916
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,799
Speaker 1: It up because I was so I was so.

1917
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 2: Anxious and we'd have to run and everybody and I

1918
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 2: was like, look at me, I'm I'm incoonfident and it

1919
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 2: just it builds on itself, and I think so.

1920
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 1: So it's it's.

1921
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 2: Possible that there's a that there's a universe where I

1922
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 2: was able to get my confidence back and feel that way.

1923
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 2: But I don't.

1924
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:31,799
Speaker 1: I think it was more likely.

1925
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:34,799
Speaker 2: That I that I made an informed decision.

1926
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. I still have I still have dreams

1927
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:39,600
Speaker 1: about it.

1928
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 2: It's funny, at fifty three, I still have dreams about

1929
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,040
Speaker 2: things that happened when I was eighteen or nineteen years old,

1930
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 2: and they have better results.

1931
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 1: No, it's it's a different generation. There's it's I worked

1932
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 1: with a sports therapist when I was.

1933
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 2: That was like an in its infancy when I was

1934
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 2: when I was playing, and I did have a really

1935
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 2: good therapist at the college who had worked with the

1936
01:33:59,120 --> 01:33:59,759
Speaker 2: other athletes.

1937
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was it was literally a lifesaver. I

1938
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 1: used to work with I think someone in college and

1939
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 1: then I you know, and then I was having some

1940
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 1: stuff going off the field that was starting to like

1941
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 1: mess with my game, you know what I mean, like

1942
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 1: as you're thinking about So then that's when I started

1943
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 1: seeing a therapist in Providence. I go over this that

1944
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:25,679
Speaker 1: like the oldest war in the country, what's it called?

1945
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 1: That one over in Providence. But there's scary every time

1946
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: I went because it's really dark. But I go see

1947
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 1: my doc over there, and and it helped. It helped

1948
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 1: me because it just allowed me to you know, open

1949
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:39,760
Speaker 1: up and it was very in it. It was an

1950
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 1: infancy in the league. At that time. I was the

1951
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 1: only guy in the team doing it.

1952
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 2: Wow.

1953
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,000
Speaker 1: Now it's you know, there's a lot of a lot

1954
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 1: more resources because the information, you know, So you know,

1955
01:34:50,439 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: I I needed someone to help me. You know, even

1956
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: I come off sometimes as a confidence strong like everyone

1957
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: needs someone no, of course know, and it doesn't have

1958
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: a therapist. Could be a friend, but it just got

1959
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 1: to be someone bounce for a long time. I'm sure

1960
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:08,520
Speaker 1: your father was part of that, was my Yeah, yeah,

1961
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:11,560
Speaker 1: that was my dad. Yeah, it was just different practices.

1962
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 3: Well, you and your dad talked to a rabbi weekly

1963
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 3: now too, Yeah.

1964
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 1: We sweet around. What's your rabbi name, Rabbi Hamilton. Oh,

1965
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 1: what a great Hollywood.

1966
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 2: Hamilton.

1967
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 1: That's that's amazing, Boston.

1968
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,759
Speaker 2: I have a very close friend who's a who's a rabbi,

1969
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 2: and and man, I can talk to them for hours. Right,

1970
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 2: They're just they know everything and and they're also so

1971
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 2: informed about other religions and philosophies and history and and

1972
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 2: and it's really they're really special people and resources for

1973
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 2: great for great wisdom.

1974
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: Great wisdom and and you know, great perspective. Yes, yes,

1975
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 1: we always we study the Torah and we'll take little

1976
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,400
Speaker 1: he'll have his little you know, his passage is and

1977
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:02,519
Speaker 1: we're going over each week and.

1978
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 2: Educate each other. But he'd be able to break it down.

1979
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:08,800
Speaker 2: That's wonderful. What a great time in life to explore that,

1980
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,320
Speaker 2: because for me it was from the time I was

1981
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 2: eight until thirteen. Yeah, and I couldn't appreciate what I

1982
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 2: was being given. I mean I did enjoy a lot

1983
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 2: of the a lot of the history lessons, and a

1984
01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 2: lot of the the the rituals and things like that,

1985
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,560
Speaker 2: but also I wanted to look out the window and

1986
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 2: be outside a lot during Hebrew School. But I think

1987
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 2: it's it's so incredibly valuable to have to have the

1988
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 2: lessons in faith at this point in our lives, definitely

1989
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 2: when we're grappling with especially as a dad. Yes, as

1990
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:48,599
Speaker 2: a kid, yeah, totally, totally. So many things were playing

1991
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:51,799
Speaker 2: when I was a kid. It was Atari Atari twenty

1992
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 2: six hundred. I saw your bit, you know, kids playing sports,

1993
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:56,719
Speaker 2: your compete with the best video games.

1994
01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1995
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, well that was the nineteen eighty five

1996
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 3: AFC Championship game.

1997
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:07,840
Speaker 2: We were here to talk about something.

1998
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was.

1999
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 2: No, oh, you know, this just gives us an excuse

2000
01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 2: we wanted to explore you. Come on, I really appreciate that, man,

2001
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:18,360
Speaker 2: This is uh. I was so looking forward to this.

2002
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:20,759
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't want a fanboy out or anything

2003
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 2: like that.

2004
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 1: But you've brought me so much.

2005
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 2: Joy over the over the years, and we're such a

2006
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 2: refreshing personality on in New England sports. And I've every

2007
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 2: interview i've seen you you give. And when I was

2008
01:37:36,160 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 2: a guest of a friend who was on the Seth

2009
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:40,640
Speaker 2: Meyers Show and it was right after the one of

2010
01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 2: the biggest moments of your life, and you were just

2011
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:45,760
Speaker 2: so humble and took a picture with me, and I

2012
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 2: remember thinking, this is a really real guy, and a

2013
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 2: nice guy and a humble guy who is very very

2014
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 2: compelling in terms of your personality and the way you

2015
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:58,719
Speaker 2: came off with Seth and everything like that. You're You're very.

2016
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:05,160
Speaker 1: Lovable now you I appreciate that. Okay, Well, hopefully you

2017
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:05,760
Speaker 1: can take it in.

2018
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 2: I know it's hard for men to appreciate compliments from

2019
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:11,680
Speaker 2: other men, but nah, I.

2020
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 1: Don't know you that very that much. And here you

2021
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 1: could tell you have a very contagious You're warm. Oh

2022
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:22,519
Speaker 1: I am, I am. I am a war I'm a

2023
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 1: warm I'm a warm, sensitive person.

2024
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 3: So very kind eyes we are.

2025
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:29,719
Speaker 2: I do have very kind eye Kyler.

2026
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:32,679
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you guys are great. Did we miss anything?

2027
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a couple of stuff for corrections. I'd

2028
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 3: be remiss if we don't talk about Tony Franklin, the

2029
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 3: Barefoot Cooker that this also, Julian, you mentioned the Red

2030
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 3: Sox won the World Series in two thousand and three

2031
01:38:43,360 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 3: was actually two thousand and four.

2032
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:44,800
Speaker 2: Four.

2033
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, Barry Sanders won his Heisman nineteen eighty eight and

2034
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 3: then Tony Easton he finished second Heisman voting. He lost

2035
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 3: to Michigan's Anthony Carter and he earned the nickname Champagne

2036
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:57,480
Speaker 3: Tony because he did play for the University of Illinois

2037
01:38:57,880 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 3: and then also Dancing with the Stars. Winners we had

2038
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:03,600
Speaker 3: at Smith, Donald Driver, Heinz Ward, and Rashad Jennings.

2039
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 2: Jerry didn't get one. Did Jerry not win?

2040
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:07,000
Speaker 3: I don't get Jerry one?

2041
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,720
Speaker 1: He was good though, Wow, he cut the rug.

2042
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 2: He could really.

2043
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:15,719
Speaker 3: Move and then one more. In the nineteen seventy six Patriots,

2044
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 3: you mentioned when eleven and three and lost twenty four

2045
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 3: to twenty one to the Raiders in the divisional round.

2046
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 3: It was a bad rough in the passer call in

2047
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 3: the Pats against Kenny Stabler on a third and eighteen

2048
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 3: that was panned as a bad call. Yeah, It's become

2049
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 3: known as the Ben Dreff game.

2050
01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 1: That was the ref right, Oh shit, when wait, we

2051
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:39,479
Speaker 1: say it again, what the ref game?

2052
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 3: That's the It's called the Ben Dreff game? Who was

2053
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 3: the ref? Because the Patriots lost because of a bad

2054
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:47,639
Speaker 3: rough in the passer in what year? Nineteen seventy six?

2055
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:48,960
Speaker 1: It would he murder him?

2056
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:49,839
Speaker 2: Probably?

2057
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 1: How do you get a rough in the passer? Like

2058
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:54,759
Speaker 1: I've seen some of those hits.

2059
01:39:54,880 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, those hits were not Yeah, nineteen seventies Sad Jack

2060
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 2: Lambert and no teeth, Oh my gosh, four army.

2061
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 1: People, it was awesome. Man, my school, oh.

2062
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 2: Wow, and sort of Thermon monson right, I think so, yeah,

2063
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 2: and Billy Crystal.

2064
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 1: Billy Crystal, Drew Carrey, Nick I didn't know that, Nick Saban,

2065
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 1: Nick Sabanu holds, Lou holds Wow. Michael Keaton, we have that.

2066
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 1: The National Guard. They were there May fourth, nineteen seventy

2067
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:30,880
Speaker 1: They were definitely there Rough one. They used to be

2068
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 1: the biggest party day though really it was like a

2069
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 1: we used to celebrate it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

2070
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 1: I could see that. Chermania they called it.

2071
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 2: Oh because there was a stirt called street called Sherman Street, Wow,

2072
01:40:41,479 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 2: Germany on May fourth, Wow, Kent State Golden Flashes. So

2073
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 2: you just you just wrote your book a memoir. Yeah,

2074
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 2: it's a memoir of kindergarten through twelfth grade, and but

2075
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 2: includes a nice chapter on Hebrew School, does it. Yeah?

2076
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 2: I thought that I think you would you would find

2077
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:01,759
Speaker 2: very very funny because my intention is that Hebrew School

2078
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:06,599
Speaker 2: and then Jewish Summer Camp is this opportunity for Jewish

2079
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:10,240
Speaker 2: boys to be around Jewish girls without gentile boys, uh

2080
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 2: competing for the gloves. So that Yeah, so it's like

2081
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,920
Speaker 2: we were the Jewish boys were able to stand out

2082
01:41:16,920 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 2: a little bit and get get run the bases a

2083
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 2: little bit easier.

2084
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get a load loaded deck.

2085
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 3: I got one last point too, on the point. So

2086
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 3: I had the pleasure of screening uh, your special that's

2087
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 3: streaming now on on that when we release it.

2088
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, and uh, I can play that game.

2089
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 3: You talk a lot about the lack of Jewish hockey

2090
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:44,360
Speaker 3: players in the Hall of Fame, and as a hockey

2091
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,160
Speaker 3: player myself and a general well wisher of the Jewish people,

2092
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:49,599
Speaker 3: I'd be remiss if I didn't call out some amazing

2093
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:51,720
Speaker 3: young Jews that are playing in the NHL right now.

2094
01:41:51,800 --> 01:41:54,400
Speaker 2: No, I agree, but I will say that I was.

2095
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 2: I was talking in nineteen seventy eight. Now they're the

2096
01:41:58,400 --> 01:41:58,960
Speaker 2: Hughes brother.

2097
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:02,639
Speaker 3: Hughes brother, Yeah, really special, and Adam Fox won yes,

2098
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:03,200
Speaker 3: and Adam five.

2099
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 2: These guys will probably make the Hall of Fame and

2100
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:08,799
Speaker 2: make my joke dated. But I was talking in nineteen

2101
01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:11,080
Speaker 2: seventy eight to my dad, and I was playing hockey,

2102
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:14,839
Speaker 2: and he said, let's let's see how many Jewish players

2103
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:16,640
Speaker 2: there are in the Hockey Hall of Fame, because you know,

2104
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:19,639
Speaker 2: as a Jew, we really cling to the athletes who

2105
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,800
Speaker 2: stand out, the Sandy Cofaxes and the Hank Greenberg's and

2106
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:26,600
Speaker 2: the Julian Edelmans and the Dolph Chases.

2107
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 1: And so my dad said.

2108
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:30,559
Speaker 2: Okay, there is zero Jewish players in the Hockey Hall

2109
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 2: of Fami. He said, just for a point of comparison, Garre,

2110
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 2: more Jews have been the Messiah than have made the

2111
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 2: Hockey Hall of Fame. He said, You're more likely to

2112
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:40,960
Speaker 2: walk on water than you are to skate on it

2113
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 2: holding the Stanley Cup.

2114
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 1: So we know where you got your comedic.

2115
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:48,760
Speaker 2: My dad was telling me Dad, my dad was very

2116
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:50,840
Speaker 2: good joke. It was a good joke. My dad was

2117
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:53,679
Speaker 2: a very good laugher also, which it which helped my dad.

2118
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:57,280
Speaker 2: I think nobody would be more prouder of me.

2119
01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:59,840
Speaker 1: Than my than my dad. Phil Bellman was a really

2120
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 1: special guy.

2121
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 2: He was very kind, affectionate, generous man who really believed

2122
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:05,400
Speaker 2: in his son.

2123
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:08,639
Speaker 1: So yeah, it sounds like sounds like a bench.

2124
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:12,320
Speaker 2: He was really a mens Yes, the true definition of

2125
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 2: a mensch. Yeah, well yeah, I was really loved dad son.

2126
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah talk, Yeah, I got a good dead. Now we

2127
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 2: got a segment.

2128
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 1: Let's segue this bad boy to the scoring. The game

2129
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 1: presented by win Bet. The name of the game is

2130
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 1: Squished the Fish. We go through and we grade the

2131
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 1: steak Star power gameplay name, and we total up, we

2132
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 1: get the average and we see where it ranks within

2133
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 1: the games that we've done already. Gary, Okay, so the

2134
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 1: stakes of this game, this is to go to the

2135
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Zero to ten decimals? All right, what do

2136
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 1: you think we.

2137
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:50,760
Speaker 2: Should give this?

2138
01:43:51,479 --> 01:43:53,880
Speaker 1: I think it's an eight point eight eight point eight. Yeah,

2139
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 1: it's a very fair See that's another thing that I

2140
01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 1: felt about you. You're a fair man. Yeah. This is

2141
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 1: a team that never made the super Bowl and had never.

2142
01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:05,679
Speaker 2: Won in this stadium in eighteen years. That's that's a generation,

2143
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:08,840
Speaker 2: I think in some cultures. Yeah, that. That's a very

2144
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:15,120
Speaker 2: honest answer. Great answer, because we did have potentially maybe

2145
01:44:15,160 --> 01:44:17,639
Speaker 2: our next president come on here and just start screwing

2146
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:18,559
Speaker 2: up all the scores.

2147
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:20,800
Speaker 1: Mark Cuban, we had him, Oh wow, you know he's

2148
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:24,439
Speaker 1: running right now? Is he running? That's what that's what

2149
01:44:24,479 --> 01:44:24,800
Speaker 1: it says.

2150
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 3: I'd watch the spinoff series.

2151
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he went on put everything ten and ruined

2152
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:32,040
Speaker 1: the whole scoring program.

2153
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:37,639
Speaker 2: So so back to star Power was his game MAVs

2154
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 2: Heat Game five. Okay, that was a great game, Dirk.

2155
01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 1: Katie, Dirk second half star power in this game though, Gary,

2156
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,720
Speaker 1: all right, So we had Dan, Andre Tippott.

2157
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:52,479
Speaker 3: And Tippett Sula kind of down the middle. We've done

2158
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:55,840
Speaker 3: Pro Bowls like, you know, five Hall of Famers a

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Speaker 3: part of this game, right.

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01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 6: I was.

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01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 2: I mean you had hand him, but he didn't have

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01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 2: that star. I mean it's probably a seventy two point

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01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:07,800
Speaker 2: two very very very very fair scoring here. Yeah.

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01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:13,680
Speaker 1: And gameplay, gameplay, I mean, the running game was it

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01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:17,759
Speaker 1: was extraordinary, I think for the for the Patriots. Marino

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01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:21,639
Speaker 1: obviously had a bad game throwing, so I I mean

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Speaker 1: I'll give it overall in eight point zero.

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Speaker 2: Eight point zero and the name Squish the fish. Well,

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01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,600
Speaker 2: I mean in terms of accuracy, it has no accuracy.

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01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 2: But what rhymes with with mammal? That would or or

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01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:40,600
Speaker 2: uh camels.

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01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:43,559
Speaker 1: It's a verb. We would need a verb to do

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01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 1: to the to the trample of the mammal. But that

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01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 1: doesn't rhyme, that's not a that's maybe a slant.

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01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 2: Rhyme, but that that would have never taken off. But

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01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:55,240
Speaker 2: squish the fish is very memorable. And the image image

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01:45:55,680 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 2: Patriot destroying the dolphin, which is I mean, kind of

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01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 2: a hate crime when you think of how lovely the

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01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:05,679
Speaker 2: dolphin community is and and but so.

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01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 1: One of the animals that have said for fun.

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01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm gonna I'm gonna give it an eight

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01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 2: point seven for the name.

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01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is our total? Eight point one seven five?

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01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 1: Where does it stand in the games?

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01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 3: It fits between the twenty eleven AFC Division around they

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01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 3: can't Wait game, Jets Patriots, we did with Rich Eisen

2187
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 3: and the two thousand and seven Fiesta Ball thattually Big

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01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 3: Game with Boise State, Oklahoma and the Super Bowl twenty seven.

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01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 3: Company is a lot of fun.

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01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:42,160
Speaker 2: Love Isisen? Yeah? Julian, who is the like your closest

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01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 2: longest friend, Like do you have any friends you were

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01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:45,679
Speaker 2: friends with in grade school. Yeah.

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01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, my boy Kurt oh Man moves out here. You

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01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 1: went out he actually he got he took a job

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01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 1: in Boston. So like my first seven years there, I

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01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 1: was away from all, you know, everyone out here and

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01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:57,680
Speaker 1: there he moved out there. I know he's back in all.

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01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 1: Had a blast. Yeah, he was a and we we

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01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 1: became friends that my mom was babysitting his older sister,

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01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 1: you know, before we were born. We became friends like that, especial.

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01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 2: It's great when you have I have a friend, my

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01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:12,519
Speaker 2: friend Jason her which has been friends a sixth grade

2203
01:47:13,080 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 2: and and we have these like setups to jokes forty

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01:47:19,160 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 2: five years old. He'll just say it name, look at

2205
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:23,639
Speaker 2: somebody who looks like somebody we haven't seen.

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01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:25,479
Speaker 1: Language. You guys have a language.

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01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 2: You have a language. Yes, that's the exact right way

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01:47:28,040 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 2: to put it. And it's so I'm so grateful.

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01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm in a text group with like seven eight of

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01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 1: my friends from high school. Oh really, that's awesome. Yeah,

2211
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:40,519
Speaker 1: it's we stayed pretty connected. It's a great feeling.

2212
01:47:40,640 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 2: And then also you know our generation, I play video

2213
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 2: games here and there, and that's another way for us

2214
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 2: to right on and yeah, gets at the headsets.

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01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's really cool. You know I stayed close

2216
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 1: with those guys.

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01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 2: You know, it's great to hear.

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01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 1: Now all your friends are your your kids friends, right

2219
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:03,360
Speaker 1: so oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard about that. Yeah,

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01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 1: hold back until you Yeah we miss anything? Do we

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01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:11,640
Speaker 1: miss anything? No, we didn't miss anything. I think I

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01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:11,920
Speaker 1: got it.

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01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:15,519
Speaker 2: I got across my admiration for Julian, and you lived

2224
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:17,960
Speaker 2: up to every expectation I had in terms of your hand,

2225
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,320
Speaker 2: your hang, hangout.

2226
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 1: Ability, and you're the real deal man.

2227
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 2: So don't sure you, man, I do love that plug

2228
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,640
Speaker 2: Born on Third Base is now streaming on Max. And

2229
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 2: then my book Misfit. This is this is great. This

2230
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:32,360
Speaker 2: is a great. This is an excellent podcast. I'm so

2231
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,120
Speaker 2: honored and grateful to you had me on.

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01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 1: So so you.

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01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:39,719
Speaker 2: Say thank you Gary, I say thank you. Julian Kyler. Yeah, Leah,

2234
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:40,639
Speaker 2: sorry Lea, how.

2235
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 1: Do I forget the princess?

2236
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 2: Leah?

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01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, thank you, thank you. Well that was

2238
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:50,600
Speaker 1: that was a good episode.

2239
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 4: I wasn't there for the interview, but man, y'all killed it.

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01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:55,600
Speaker 4: You know, kind of met his new best friend. They

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01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 4: were these guys hit it all.

2242
01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 2: A little bit of a fan Gary, I feel like

2243
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:04,640
Speaker 2: my heart got warmer. It's very kind, nice guy. I

2244
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 2: feel like I just got shot in the heart with careness.

2245
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:16,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I you know, he he kept

2246
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:19,280
Speaker 2: on giving me the eyes of like he didn't want

2247
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 2: to get I've seen his act. I've seen his act. Okay,

2248
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:24,640
Speaker 2: we all know Gary Goleman. Okay, you know he's the

2249
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 2: self defeat. I saw that, and he he like didn't

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01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:28,320
Speaker 2: want to turn it on for me.

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01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:30,800
Speaker 3: Oh man, he wanted to be strong, he.

2252
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:33,240
Speaker 1: Wanted me, but then it made me vulnerable.

2253
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:35,719
Speaker 4: Low key therapy session for a few minutes.

2254
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 1: I felt like the vulnerability clicked together. I loved it.

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01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:43,400
Speaker 1: And as you know, we have the hot line up

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01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:48,080
Speaker 1: and running four two four two nine one two two

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01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:51,720
Speaker 1: nine zero hit me on the what is it? What's

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01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:54,840
Speaker 1: the Drake hot likely?

2259
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 4: And then there's also Pretty Ricky, a lesser known one

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01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 4: that was a hotline. Remember that one, Pretty Ricky, Reggae

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01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 4: Ricky and.

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01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:05,240
Speaker 2: This week.

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01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 1: Pretty Ricky. This week we are checking our messages for

2264
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 1: suggestions on what you all think we should name the studio.

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01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:22,880
Speaker 4: We're casting a wide net here you can comment ig Twitter, YouTube,

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01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:26,799
Speaker 4: everywhere to call in of course, TikTok anywhere. I'm scouring

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01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:29,400
Speaker 4: the comments. So first and foremost, we'll kick this off

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01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 4: with some suggestions from the comment section. First, we got

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01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:39,480
Speaker 4: the Gladiator Studio from r D six Hawkladiator.

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01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:43,320
Speaker 1: I just that just brought me back to like day

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01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 1: Ball walking down the hallway. He always try to get

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01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 1: you the DS nuts comment. Day Ball was a D

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01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:51,919
Speaker 1: nuts guy full DSE nuts. Wow, I'm even more preparing

2274
01:50:52,040 --> 01:50:55,000
Speaker 1: for the AFC Championship. I'm not trying to talk about

2275
01:50:55,080 --> 01:51:01,400
Speaker 1: these nuts. And then Long would get up and he

2276
01:51:01,520 --> 01:51:04,719
Speaker 1: was also he'd be like, hey, you heard about Jamal.

2277
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you talking about?

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01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 2: Who? Jamal? Who? Jim Olden is caking your mouth?

2279
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:14,639
Speaker 4: Dude, I can't even go to Wendy's anymore with the boys.

2280
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 4: Oh you like Wendy's Wendy's nuts in your mouth?

2281
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:19,720
Speaker 1: You know I would have heard. I've heard them all.

2282
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 1: What was another whatever, let's keep going on.

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01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:27,680
Speaker 4: Then glad the ed old Den from Buck Hancho that

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01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:29,800
Speaker 4: was in the YouTube comments. I like that, that's got

2285
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 4: a good ring to it. Yeah, we got the Film

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01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:35,760
Speaker 4: Room from Cole Miller three nine three four. Yeah, a

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01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 4: little down the middle, straight line. But we do watch

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01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 4: film in here.

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01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 7: This film room, the house of jewels. House of Jewels

2290
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:46,280
Speaker 7: is solid. That could almost just be I could apply

2291
01:51:46,320 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 7: to the the entire just little seven to one one zero,

2292
01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:50,679
Speaker 7: shout out little.

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01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 4: I like that one.

2294
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 2: I like that.

2295
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:53,360
Speaker 1: It's kind of good.

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01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:56,599
Speaker 4: This bitpit is pretty good. From from Climba one point

2297
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:57,920
Speaker 4: five clambers.

2298
01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 3: Plan this explain the spit pit to me, like we're spitting?

2299
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:03,040
Speaker 3: What's happening here?

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01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:07,559
Speaker 4: I think we're dipping baby, Oh we're dipping and spitting baby.

2301
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 3: There we go.

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01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:10,959
Speaker 1: Hey, we do not recommend this for any.

2303
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:13,280
Speaker 2: Of our users. This is a terrible habit. This is

2304
01:52:13,320 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 2: a pd PSD or yourself as a school special babysd.

2305
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:23,640
Speaker 1: This is a p s at on not picking up

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01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:27,640
Speaker 1: bad habits. So all you kids out there, this is

2307
01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 1: bubble gum.

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01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 4: And then we Kyler and I I think all of

2309
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 4: us are in the room. Gotta gotta put our brains together,

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01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:37,640
Speaker 4: and uh the broajouts the bro joe. That's that's been

2311
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:41,760
Speaker 4: used when uh Dola Dola's he used to.

2312
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 1: Call the ping pong room downstairs of his house. That

2313
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: was like unfinished. We've already talked about this, I think

2314
01:52:48,080 --> 01:52:51,599
Speaker 1: on this podcast. But it was unfinished, and I kid

2315
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 1: you not. There was probably three hundred tens of Copenhagen

2316
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:02,600
Speaker 1: thrown out above gum bubble gum, and we.

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01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:04,840
Speaker 2: Would just that was the real spit pit. We'd be

2318
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:07,640
Speaker 2: spitting because it was under it was unfinished. It was

2319
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:10,600
Speaker 2: all cement. It was like we were in Russia, the

2320
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 2: best spitting on the walls, sweat, a little freaking bows, fucking.

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01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 4: Speaker feet just sticking to the floor.

2322
01:53:21,080 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 1: No, we were sliding cement with like yeah, it was

2323
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:26,320
Speaker 1: it was a little plays.

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01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 2: It was c but there was still there was so

2325
01:53:28,960 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 2: much dust and dirt that you would slide right on it,

2326
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It was fun.

2327
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 1: The wet's save the brojo. We'll save the bro jo.

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01:53:38,479 --> 01:53:38,880
Speaker 3: Got the game.

2329
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 4: We got the game room. I little little down down

2330
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 4: the middle, but this one from Amanas off the Judeo

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01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 4: instead of the studio judio little polarized, kind of tight. Okay,

2332
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 4: uh the room where Jewels dominates in pool. Still have

2333
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:54,280
Speaker 4: yet to get a dub off.

2334
01:53:54,120 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 2: Your brother, Yeah, but I've I'm not the dominant. If

2335
01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 2: anyone's out there listening, I actually want to hire a

2336
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:01,800
Speaker 2: pool coach.

2337
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm coachable. Sometimes I'm on and then sometimes I'm off.

2338
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:08,960
Speaker 1: I don't know where I'm hitting it on the ball

2339
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 1: correctly or if i am some you know, like sometimes

2340
01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm dialed but he got it's too inconsistent, and I

2341
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 1: don't know my mistake from when I hit my mistake,

2342
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 1: so then I can't make a correction in my head.

2343
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:24,720
Speaker 1: So pool people out there, YO, hit me up in

2344
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:25,840
Speaker 1: the DMS. Need a pool coach.

2345
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 2: Is the Black Widow?

2346
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 4: As a listener, come ill, I said that last night,

2347
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:31,719
Speaker 4: Black Black Widow, she rocks.

2348
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:33,480
Speaker 3: But also I think the real reason this is happening

2349
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 3: because Kurt Jules's friend has been stepping his game up significant.

2350
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 3: He's been running the table.

2351
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 2: The table we split last night.

2352
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:48,440
Speaker 3: Thurty boy, all right, you want to hear all right,

2353
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 3: let's hear.

2354
01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 4: Something twenty four line dropping soon in Tear Designs.

2355
01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:55,360
Speaker 3: Guys, all right, let's let's uh, let's let's crack open

2356
01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 3: some of these voices.

2357
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:58,200
Speaker 1: Let's hear these voice notes.

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01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:01,320
Speaker 8: First off, Jewel, thank you for everything you've done in

2359
01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 8: New England. But I see you need a name for

2360
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:06,720
Speaker 8: your studio, and I think the best option for you

2361
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:11,600
Speaker 8: is Edel Nuts nuthouse. So if that's an option there,

2362
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:13,320
Speaker 8: you guys go with that. At least get me a

2363
01:55:13,400 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 8: shout out on air, but a jewels. Thank you for

2364
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:19,960
Speaker 8: everything you've done. Man, you have been an absolute icon

2365
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:23,160
Speaker 8: in New England, a god amongst men. Some will say

2366
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:26,080
Speaker 8: so thank you, Julian, everything you've put on the field,

2367
01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 8: everything you sacrificed for. You know, some of us just

2368
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 8: wish you were still out there trying to make our

2369
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:33,919
Speaker 8: team a little bit better. But yeah, Edel Nuts Nuthouse,

2370
01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 8: what you need to do?

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01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:37,800
Speaker 1: Jack, Will you stop having your friends calling.

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Speaker 4: That glazing was crazy?

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01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:44,360
Speaker 3: But the real takeaway nuthouse.

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01:55:45,600 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 4: Nuthouse is decent. Edel Nuts Nuthouse sounds like it could

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01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:49,800
Speaker 4: be a good franchiseable restaurant too.

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01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 1: It is kind of nuttying here.

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01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:52,360
Speaker 2: It is a lot.

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01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:55,840
Speaker 1: I mean, if you were to cut into like a

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01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 1: middle of a nut and like you were, you know,

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01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 1: like those old like cartoons where they go in like

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01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:04,520
Speaker 1: the brain, and like you said, I don't know which

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01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:07,520
Speaker 1: one was that. There was some I don't know regards

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01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:12,120
Speaker 1: most of it like probably in the middle of or not. Yes, yeah,

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01:56:12,160 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 1: that's a good one.

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01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 4: I like that one.

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01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 3: He didn't live one.

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01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:16,960
Speaker 4: He didn't leave one.

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01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 1: Well, shout out to that guy that blaser. He yesked

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01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:22,400
Speaker 1: for a shout out. I can't give you a shout

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01:56:22,440 --> 01:56:23,760
Speaker 1: out here, you know.

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01:56:24,880 --> 01:56:27,760
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, this is Gustal for girls about the I'm

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01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 6: from Tekas. Gustavo's name for the studio would be the outhouse,

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01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:37,400
Speaker 6: because you're gonna talk and ship spin the ship, talking

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01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:40,440
Speaker 6: about the old ship, the new ship, every ship, all

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01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:42,800
Speaker 6: the ship. You know, fuck it. You know that's how

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01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:45,640
Speaker 6: it supposed to be. Don't when you're tired, you choulding

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01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:50,840
Speaker 6: on it, your dad or your uncle, brother son, whatever.

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01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 6: Always it's a good place to go talk. The ship

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01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 6: also known as the outhouse.

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01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:00,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, ou house, not bad, dude, Stava bringing the heat.

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01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:02,160
Speaker 2: The father.

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01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:03,120
Speaker 1: I like this guy.

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01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:07,640
Speaker 3: That's a that's an Internet translation transcription. Don't they're not perfect.

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01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 3: We haven't got to a final form of AI yet.

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01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:12,680
Speaker 4: I like thinking that is that it is Gustavo's father,

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01:57:12,760 --> 01:57:14,040
Speaker 4: though this guy rocks.

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01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:16,360
Speaker 2: Who's Gustava the outhouse?

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01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, yeh, out house, it's fun.

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01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:22,400
Speaker 1: Uh Gustav isn't that the guy from Beauty and the

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01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:29,200
Speaker 1: Beast gustav gustaff all right, that's another one, Gustavo's father,

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01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 1: good good one out.

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01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:35,320
Speaker 5: Hey jewels, big fans, man, big big fan. Appreciate it,

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01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 5: Appreciate you a lot. Recommendation for your new studio. I

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01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:46,720
Speaker 5: mean you are a squirrel squirrel man, so I would

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01:57:47,280 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 5: recommend the squirrel cave like bat caves.

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01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:55,520
Speaker 1: Just a thought. Squirrel cave. I like it, squirrel cave,

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01:57:56,720 --> 01:57:58,320
Speaker 1: I like it. Squirrels one living caves.

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01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little a little clunky.

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01:58:00,240 --> 01:58:04,800
Speaker 1: To but hey, Batman had a cave, we're bats leaving caves.

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01:58:06,280 --> 01:58:07,520
Speaker 2: What are squirrels living trees?

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01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:09,040
Speaker 3: Treehouse?

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01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:12,520
Speaker 9: The squirrel treehouse, squirrel treehouse. The tree we do, look,

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01:58:13,640 --> 01:58:16,600
Speaker 9: it could be if you cut like, we could be

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01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:19,360
Speaker 9: in a big tree in here. Likely all this wood grain,

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01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:21,440
Speaker 9: the lights coming through.

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01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:23,640
Speaker 1: A little holes might be onto something that will gain

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01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:24,320
Speaker 1: dash Man.

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01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:29,280
Speaker 2: All right's another one, Hey fellas, love to see that

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01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 2: we're back.

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01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 6: Named for the studio.

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01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:34,959
Speaker 1: I feel like if we're not calling it the Hall.

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01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:38,800
Speaker 5: Of Games and we're doing ourselves as disservice here.

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01:58:39,200 --> 01:58:42,040
Speaker 2: It spilled from New Hampshire, Love your jewels.

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01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:46,880
Speaker 1: What did he say Hall of Games? I didn't wreck.

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01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:50,200
Speaker 1: I didn't hear that the Hall of Games, the Hall

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01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:50,879
Speaker 1: of Games.

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01:58:51,640 --> 01:58:54,520
Speaker 9: It's Regal, some would say to Regal, I was going

2438
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:56,080
Speaker 9: to say, it's like a wing in Canton.

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01:58:57,600 --> 01:58:58,640
Speaker 1: The Hall of Games.

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01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, got the boy Watch, the boy Watch.

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01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:06,560
Speaker 3: Okay, well that's that's what we got, so some good stuff.

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01:59:07,160 --> 01:59:08,200
Speaker 2: Appreciate the calls.

2443
01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:10,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's kind of whittle it down to three and

2444
01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:13,040
Speaker 3: maybe put a Twitter pole or instat pole. What are

2445
01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:13,400
Speaker 3: you thinking?

2446
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:14,560
Speaker 2: Maybe five?

2447
01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:15,280
Speaker 1: Five?

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01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 6: Five?

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01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, if it's five nuthouse.

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01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:24,480
Speaker 4: Nuthouses up there, because it's got a double meaning, because

2451
01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:27,600
Speaker 4: you're nutty. What did you say, edel nut nuthouse, eedel

2452
01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:29,840
Speaker 4: nuts nuthouse. Those would be good on T shirts. I

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01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:33,000
Speaker 4: feel like, just go nuthouse, simplify it.

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01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 2: I like, uh, the spit pit.

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01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:40,000
Speaker 4: Spitpit's good, spit pit sneaky, sneaky good.

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01:59:40,840 --> 01:59:44,240
Speaker 3: Elden's good, edel Den. Hall of Games. You gotta give

2457
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:45,880
Speaker 3: one boring straight line.

2458
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:50,040
Speaker 4: We'll give them Regal the judio that's off. Yeah, we

2459
01:59:50,120 --> 01:59:52,600
Speaker 4: gotta give us offs in there too. All right, we'll

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01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:53,720
Speaker 4: put the Stay tuned for.

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01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:57,720
Speaker 3: The pole soon, Stay tuned for the pole. Leave comments jewels.

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01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:04,600
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I like it. I like the suggestion. Just

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02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:06,320
Speaker 1: reminds me too much. Of the family Jewels.

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02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:09,600
Speaker 4: I know we've probably heard that a million times.

2465
02:00:09,880 --> 02:00:12,320
Speaker 1: So may every little kid. You just think they were

2466
02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:14,640
Speaker 1: so funny. When I first we didn't, I'd be like, Hey,

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02:00:14,720 --> 02:00:19,040
Speaker 1: my name's Julian. People call me jewels. I'm like family jewels,

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02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:23,880
Speaker 1: Like what the fuck?

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02:00:24,400 --> 02:00:24,680
Speaker 4: God?

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02:00:26,280 --> 02:00:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, family jewels, I'm like balls, got them?

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02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:32,120
Speaker 2: Well?

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02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:36,720
Speaker 1: What an episode? Thanks again to Gary. That was a

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02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:39,040
Speaker 1: fun episode. It was awesome to get to know him

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02:00:39,040 --> 02:00:42,320
Speaker 1: a little bit. And that's been another episode of Games

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02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:46,680
Speaker 1: with Names, presented by when Bett. Remember to follow Games

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02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:51,760
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02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:56,000
Speaker 1: will see you all next week, guys. Games with Names

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02:00:56,160 --> 02:01:00,320
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