1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now moved the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ. Bucky 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: back with you Buck. How you doing, Buddy man, I'm good. 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm good, just kind of handling quarantine. Had a good 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: little holiday weekend. Ready to get back at it. What 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: is the what does the holiday weekend look like for 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks? What are we what are we go going on? Well? 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: This More Day weekend, I did my radio show on Saturday. Um, 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: I went for a super long bike ride on Sunday, 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: like an hour and a half bike ride all over 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: the valley. Yeah, like silly stuff. Um. And then yesterday 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,319 Speaker 1: was day like Monday. More Day was actually a day 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: where I started catching up. Looked at some college state, 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: looked at some quarterbacks. Uh, we're gonna talk about quarterbacks, 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: to look at into one class, looked at some second 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: year players, and then just try to map out whatever 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: it is I'm gonna write about this week. So you know, 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: usual drill, same old, same old. Yeah. We got a 19 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: lot of sun. Man, it was nice. I'll tell you 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: what I enjoyed watching the golf match. Did you get 21 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: a chance to see that? And man, it was. It 22 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: was great and you know, I know we're gonna I mean, 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: we should just go ahead and talk about it. Like here, 24 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: here's what I think I learned from watching the match, right, Like, 25 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: I felt like there are a lot of people that 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,919 Speaker 1: were sitting on Twitter waiting to see Tom Brady falter. 27 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: And I think what we learned about Tom Brady, the 28 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: same thing that makes him great shows up in all aspects. 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: Because he was struggling that front nine. It was bad. 30 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: People were taking shots at him, people calling in, talking 31 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: to him, taking shots, and somewhere in there he settled 32 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: in and you saw the competitor come back, Like when 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: he knocked in that that Wed shot, Um, you kind 34 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: of saw him got got he got his confidence, you 35 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: got a swagger, and you saw a kind of residency. 36 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: And I think, look, man, I don't have any illusions 37 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: of him being a pro golfer, but I think the mindset, 38 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: I think it was a peak inside of the mindset 39 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: of an ultimate competitor, not only him, but even the 40 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: way Peyton Manning approached the way that he did it 41 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: like very studious, very meticulous, and as a approach. And 42 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: I felt like even though they were playing a different sport. 43 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: We gotta look at the person that was under the 44 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: helmet on game day. You know, I was thinking of 45 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: a couple of words when I was watching him, because 46 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: it used to see what you think on this because 47 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: I I I look at a lot of these successful 48 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: people really in all walks of life, and if you 49 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: look at some failures that they have to deal with, 50 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: we always talk about perseverance, right and overcoming things and 51 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: actually kind of a theme we're gonna use on the 52 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: TV show a little bit on Thursday. We're gonna talk, 53 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, the whole show about comebacks and how um 54 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: you know this country's kind of come back. We look 55 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: at players, teams, all these different facets of a comeback. 56 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: But when you look at failures and successful people, there's 57 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: two words that I don't think it talked about. Number 58 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: one is embarrassment and number two is anger. And I 59 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: thought when you when you could see Tom Brady, he 60 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: kind of went from like kind of chuckling, you know 61 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: how that yeah, I'm not hitting it real well to 62 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: you saw him get embarrassed. And then I think even 63 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: with Barkley, you saw a little little little of anger 64 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: that he had, and that's when that's how those guys 65 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: get like their focus right back in line and dialed in. 66 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 1: And you saw, I mean again, he's not you said 67 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be a professional golfer. But I think 68 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: we saw the kind of the best of Tom Brady 69 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: for a stretch there because of those two things, embarrassment 70 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: and anger. Yeah, so let's go back, because we talked 71 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: a lot about the last dance dock Um and how 72 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan would create these grudges and hold them to it, 73 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: Like when Berkeley kind of took that dig, tom Brady 74 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: gave it right back to him, and it might have 75 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: been just enough to poke the bear to get him 76 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: back on track. And those that of us that have 77 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: been close enough to the game to be around Tom 78 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: Brady either on the field and here him, you know 79 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: that he is a guy that doesn't mind engaging in 80 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: conversation with the opposition, and so I felt like that 81 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: kind of woke him up, and once he got going, 82 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: you saw the confidence kind of come back, and from 83 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: then on he was a pretty steady eddie player. And 84 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: so I just love the fact of seeing that. And 85 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: I also think you talked about compare editors. Competitors are 86 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: not afraid to put themselves out there because to play 87 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: on a national stage. They talked about the viewership or 88 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: whatever a DJ. I'm a guy that gets nervous um 89 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: just going to the te box when it's just the 90 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: first The first T is always the one where I 91 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: still get the butterflies because you're being watched by everybody, 92 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: and regardless of whether they know that you're not a 93 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: player or whatever, there's still some nerves and anxiety that 94 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: comes to addressing the ball, doing your wagon and going 95 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: through your routine and the only thing you hope, man, 96 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: I hope I don't hit a duster. I hope I 97 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: don't hit a duster duster. I'm hoping to make contact. 98 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: And so to see them settle in and to kind 99 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: of get it going to me, that was it was great, man. 100 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: It was really commendable to see them do it. Yeah. 101 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm notorious. I play. I play maybe two times a year, 102 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: but I'm notorious for the worm burner off T one. 103 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: It's just that thing is just rolling down the fairway. Yeah, 104 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: but it was, man, it was. It was fun to 105 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: watch that. Then thought I thought Peyton, you know, just 106 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: especially like the short game and all that he was 107 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: just dialed in. Everything was yeah, not too aggressive, but 108 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: very confident, very poised, and just the ball was pretty 109 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: true how he hit it. Yeah, it's funny. I would 110 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: be interesting interested to see if they flipped the parings 111 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: because Paid Manning is very much like Tiger Woods in 112 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: terms of like the meticulous nature. He isn't a guy 113 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: that necessarily paints outside the numbers. But putting Paid Manning 114 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: with someone who's not like him, like feel, I wonder 115 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 1: how that would have gone when they have the whole 116 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: by whole, shot by shot interactions and the conversations when 117 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: it comes to the advice as opposed to the way 118 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: that it was where you had Tom Brady going with 119 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: Phil or whatever. I just would love to see, like 120 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: the different matchups to see how people respond to having 121 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: different partners who may approach it a little differently than 122 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: they do. I thought the other thing that was interesting 123 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: was UM, and we're gonna get some football here in 124 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: a second. It's not gonna be a whole draft podcast here. 125 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about some of these top quarterbacks in 126 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: the coming drafts, as well as some guys we look 127 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,119 Speaker 1: to have breakout years. But UM on the Gulf front. 128 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting that, you know, Phil was 129 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: given a lot of instruction, but it was like Tiger 130 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: and and Peyton had their own language. They were talking 131 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: about numbers with speeds of puts like sevent on this 132 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: and ninety on that, like it was you could tell 133 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: they played together before. But the communication was it was 134 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: less as more like he would just Payton would just 135 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: get address the ball, like what am I aiming at 136 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: the left tower? And uh this you know, and then 137 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: boom two things of instruction. Phil was like diarrhea of 138 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: the mouth, like nine all these different things and the 139 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: grain of the I never I don't know anything about golf, 140 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: but I've never heard so much about the grain of 141 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: the grass. How you're going with her against the grain 142 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: of the grass? Um? But he was so wordy, and 143 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: I almost thought, man, I almost think less is more 144 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: what I know with me? I I suck at golf. 145 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: And there's nothing more annoying to me than to go 146 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: golfing with a good golfer who has to give me 147 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: nine five tips on every shot, Like, dude, tell me 148 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: where I'm aiming, tell me how hard I should hit it. 149 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: That's it, That's all I need. Yeah, It's funny because 150 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: if you go back and you think about the way 151 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: paid Manning played, Um, A lot of what they did 152 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: at Indianapolis was really really simple. It was simplicity with 153 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: execution and so um Like in talking to Reggie Wayne 154 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: about a rage, we're just talking about Look, man, we 155 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: do the same things over and over and over again. 156 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: The repetition was what enabled us to be successful. Uh. 157 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: For me, something tells me that Tiger and Peyton somehow 158 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: got together prior to and that they had worked out 159 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: They had worked out some things because they were very, 160 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: very comfortable playing with one another. Um, and you're right, 161 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: Tiger was very efficient with his word choice and by 162 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: the way that he hit a bad shot that Tiger 163 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: went had a bad shot pretty much the whole day, 164 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: I mean good night. I mean he was really really 165 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: on his game. I mean he was he was on 166 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: his game. Like but like I give Peyton and Tom 167 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: credit to go in an entire round with the limited 168 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: like wayward shots that they had there were way a bounce. 169 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: I give them credit because I can only hope for 170 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: the day what I can shoot sub nine and really 171 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: enjoy the room, you know, And I don't think I 172 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: couldn't break a hundred, but I'll tell you the h 173 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: my last golf story. I've told you some of my 174 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: golf stories. But I went down to play Pinehurst right 175 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: down of your neck of the woods down there and 176 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: not right outside of but um so we get to 177 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: eighteen and I shank my shank my drive, so you 178 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: gotta come. You're coming down the home stretch and there's 179 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: the eighteenth green and there's a restaurant that just kind 180 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: of wraps around it and people are sitting outside restaurant. 181 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: So I shank. I shank my drive and I think 182 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: I hit my second shot wayward as well. So now 183 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm kind of like off in the woods. But I 184 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: could still get there. I mean I could get to 185 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: the green from there, but it wasn't a good lie. 186 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: And I just walked over and picked up my ball 187 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: and put in my pocket. And the guys I was 188 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: playing with like, are you seriously not gonna finish out eighteen? 189 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I've had a nice, relaxing, enjoyable day. 190 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: Like hitting some lady who's eating a tuna sandwich in 191 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: the head. It's gonna leave me in a bad mood 192 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: for the rest of the day. So I'm done. I'm out. 193 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: But Mark did did remind me though I did Birdie fifteen. 194 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: I birdied fifteen. That was only Birdie that. I don't 195 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: even know if I had a part, but I had one. 196 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: Part was fifteen? Part five or part fourh gosh, I 197 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: can't even remember. Mark would know if I can't remember 198 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: if it was a three or four. All I know 199 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: it was part three. I was off the green. I 200 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: was off the green and I putted it from a 201 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: freaking mile off the green and it just found it. 202 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: It snaked its way into the hole. But that was 203 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: that was the only good shot I hit the whole day. 204 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: Look at you next time we can we can get 205 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: you in that Uh in that match? Like man, I no, thanks, Yeah, 206 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: that's a lot. I give him credit because I don't know, man, 207 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: the pressure of just being watched everybody. Tom never took 208 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: did Tom Brady. I don't think I ever took the 209 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: driver out. He was hitting it, he was so But 210 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: I said, I'm raising my hand because I subscribed to 211 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: the Tom Brady uh school of playing off. I never ever. 212 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: I don't even have a driver in my bag. No, 213 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm irons off to t I. Uh, I can 214 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: hit it pretty far like that. Yeah, it's something about 215 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: the big head of the driver that just makes me 216 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: want to absolutely whack a mole. And because of it, 217 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: I I just mess it up. I just can't do it, 218 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: miss it. We gotta play golf together. We gotta move 219 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 1: the sticks, golf outing marks marks. The big boss here, 220 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: he runs the whole show. He's I mean, he's got 221 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: like nine golf memberships. Ever, every time I call him, 222 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: he's on the golf course. So I mean he's gotta 223 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: be able to set that up for us. Yeah, we 224 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: can do it. That would be fun. How about that. 225 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: We could you know what, we could also bring a 226 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: couple of the A T N guys and play minuture 227 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: golf too. That would be fun play. But we let them, 228 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: We let them go up under the windmills. Yeah. Well, 229 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: the good thing is if a ball gets stuck, they 230 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: just walk right underneath the window and rabbit and check out. 231 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: That's good. That's nice. Um all right, buck, let's let's 232 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: get on track here with some football stuff. Talking about uh, 233 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: some second year players that we see taking a big 234 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: leap this year. Maybe not saying that a bad first year, 235 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: but just think we're gonna see a monumental jump here 236 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: in your number two. Who do you got? I mean, look, 237 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm on board us all over Twitter because I 238 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: wrote about Kylin Murray last week and how I think 239 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: he can be the m v P um we've seen. 240 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: The last two m vps were guys that in their 241 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: second season they just exploded. Uh. You talked about the 242 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: three P formula, play caller, playmaker protection. When I look 243 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: at what is around Cayler Murray, Um, you can check 244 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: off all the boxes. Cliff Kingsbury is more comfortable in 245 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: the NFL game. I thought you did a great job 246 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: making adjustments about the middle of the season, going for 247 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: more ten personnel to more of your traditional sets. Um. 248 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: He was able to blend in the air raid with 249 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: some traditional things and that offense click. Kylin Murray had 250 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: thirty five pass yards uh five d rushing yards. He 251 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: and Cam Newton are the only guys who have been 252 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: able to hit that number in NFL history as Rickie's 253 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: And then when you think about what they added around him. 254 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake came run the middle of the season, played 255 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 1: well for them, terrific hybrid playmaker. Catch it out the 256 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: backfield can run it. DeAndre Hopkins gives them a true 257 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: number one to go with Lara fris Gerald. And the 258 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: thing that I noticed last year, Kyler Murray didn't really 259 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: throw the ball down to field. Only eleven percent of 260 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: his passes were beyond twenty eight yards, but he had 261 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: the seventh most yards on those throws. And so now 262 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: with DeAndre Hopkins being a master of the fifty fifty balls, 263 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: I think those one on one situations on the outside, 264 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 1: he should really thrive. I think he is poised to 265 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: have a breakout year. All right, So you that's a 266 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: power statement you had talking about Kyler Murray being your 267 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: favorite for m v P. Let me let me give 268 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: you my Kyler Murray power statement, so to speak. If 269 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: you went through the last three drafts, and Orlovsky, our 270 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: buddy danil Lovsky was was texting me about this the 271 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: other day, saying, who would you take? So if you 272 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: go to the last three drafts, I think about that's 273 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: that's the Baker Mayfield, you know, Sam Donald, Lamar Jackson, 274 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Um, all those dudes. Right, then it's last 275 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:05,839 Speaker 1: year's group, which is Kyler Murray, UM, Dwayne Haskins, who else, 276 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: we got Minshew that that whole crew, and then you've 277 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: got this year. You know, obviously Joe Burrow and two 278 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: were the kind of the two headliners in this year's class. 279 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: So he said, over the last three classes, if you 280 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: could take one guy keeping minding Lamar's coming off m 281 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: VP Award, if you could take who would be your 282 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: first pick? And I said, I think I take Kyler Murray. 283 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: I think he would be my first pick just because 284 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: I can get everything athletically from him, and then I 285 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: get a dynamic thrower. I mean, and he's got a 286 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: chance to be literally has a chance to be you know, 287 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: top two or three throwers in the league. Oh yeah, 288 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm by the way. He's electric when he wants to 289 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: use his legs and take off and go um. And 290 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: he's in a system that's very comfortable for him. So 291 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: um yeah. I mean, I I'm with you on this one, Buck. 292 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: I think some people you got some blowback on that. 293 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: I saw it on social media, some people saying that, 294 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: you know what division he plays in. I'm like, hey, 295 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: greatness is greatness, doesn't matter who are you playing against. 296 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: If you've if you've got greatness, it's gonna come out 297 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: and I I'm in on this kid. Man, I'm with you. 298 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: I buy a Kyler Murray. You know, like I really 299 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: regret like in the draft and I think, um, still 300 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: coming from the old school of thought when it comes 301 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: to scouting. Look, I knew Tyler Kyler Murray's greatness from 302 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: watching him in high school and seeing the flashes obviously 303 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, but there was still something the old school 304 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: me was like, Look, man, he's sub six ft. You 305 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: normally don't go big on those guys or whatever. But 306 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: what Kyler Murray is you talked about electric. He's efficient 307 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: and explosive, and it's hard to find guys that are 308 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: like that. Um, it's kind of like the Barry Bonds 309 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: of hitting. Barry Bonds wouldn't get many pitches to hit, 310 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: but when he did, he knocked him out. Kyler Murray 311 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: is kind of like that. He doesn't run all the time, 312 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: but when he does, therefore explosive place. And then his 313 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: overall efficiency as a passer puts him in a unique 314 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: and special category, which is why you talked about him 315 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: being one of the top two passes in the league. 316 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: At some point. You absolutely can see that because what 317 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: he is is a guy who is really a deadly 318 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: accurate passer who also has two other stuff. Yeah, now 319 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. Alright, my my first guy, you're 320 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: going kind of top top, top of the ticket here. 321 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go down the board a little bit and 322 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: just give you a name that if especially if you 323 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: if you do the fantasy football thing. Um. Jay Sternberger, 324 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: the tight end out of Texas A and M who's 325 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: with the Green Bay Packers. They move on from Jimmy Graham. 326 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: He missed eight games last year, he was hurt, so 327 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna get a chance to be the guy. And 328 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: talking to people around the league, Buck, they love this dude. 329 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: They love him and he was very athletic. You saw 330 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: it at A and m Um, I think he's got 331 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: tremendous upside. He can also help you out in the 332 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: run game a little bit. But I know, and we've 333 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: we've been part of this group that's taken. You know, uh, 334 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: some shots at the Green Bay Packers were not putting 335 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: more around Aaron Rodgers in this draft class. You know, 336 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: they just really given a lot of weaponry. This kid 337 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: coming back playing a full full season and getting a 338 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: chance to be featured. He's gonna have a huge year. 339 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: Jay Sternberger man remember that name, you know, DJ. Part 340 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: of the reason why they may not have put more 341 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: playmakers around him is because maybe the Green Bay Packers 342 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: are doing like some of the these teams that we've 343 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: talked about, maybe they're lining up to be more of 344 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: a twelve personnel team, two tight ends to wide receivers, 345 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: and if you're going to do more of that, you 346 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: really don't need to have all of these other wide receivers. 347 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: Davante Adams is certainly their guy, but and the more 348 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: Matt la Floor wants to kind of put his stamp 349 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: on this offense. If you think about the way the 350 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: Rams and Kyle Shanahan has operated stretch bootleg play action, 351 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: Starnberger is a guy that he can split the scene, 352 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: he can run all those routes, he can climb over 353 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: the top on those deep overs. He could very well 354 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: be a big time breakout player. And you would have 355 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: to go all the way back to the last time 356 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: they've really had a legitimate tight end or come on, 357 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: I mean no, I'm talking about Jamichael. Jamichael Finley kind 358 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: of like the last big time young playmaker that he 359 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: had with him at Jackson. I mean those guys. I 360 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: play with those guys like he needs somebody better than that. 361 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: But those guys can certainly got him out. Oh No, 362 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: Bill and the Bible just dropped the Bubba Franks on 363 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: the Tech still line here, good, good, good, everybody. He's 364 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: the forgotten Miami tight end man ever forgot about Bubba 365 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 1: Franks kind of one of the guys that the originator, 366 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: one of those guys. All right, how you got next? 367 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Noah fan for the Denver Broncos 368 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: and the reason why Noah can really have a breakout year. 369 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: Last year he evers fourteen yards of catch, he had 370 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: forty receptions, three touchdowns. But it's what's around him that 371 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: could open up the field. With Jerry Judy and kJ Hamler, 372 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton, Uh, teams are going to have to make 373 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: a decision how are we going to defend the Broncos? 374 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: And with the running game, Uh, Philip Lindsay, Melvin Gordon, 375 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: Pat Sherman coming over a little more commendment to the 376 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: running game. I think Drew lock is going to find 377 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: comfort and work in the middle of the field. That's 378 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: why I think no offense numbers could go to sixties 379 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: sixty five receptions, seven to ten touchdowns as he becomes 380 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: a big part of the offense, as teams begin to 381 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: play more cover two in those things to slow down 382 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 1: some of the speed that they have on the outside. 383 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: Now that's track team, man. I feel like we've used 384 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: that that phrase a bunch, right. We talked about it 385 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: with Baltimore last year, building a track team. I think 386 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: Denver is doing the same thing. Man. This this is 387 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: why I'm so excited about this season because look at 388 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: how many teams have gotten so much faster and so 389 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: much more athletic, and then you've got guys like No 390 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: a fan who can take that next step as a 391 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: second year player. Um, we've we've said at the a 392 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: f C West is gonna be fun. Man. I think 393 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: you're gonna see some improved football in that division to 394 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: try and chase the world champs there in the Kansas 395 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: City Chiefs. Uh speaking of speed, My next guy, I'm 396 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: gonna go Marky's Brown with the Ravens. And you remember 397 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: last year going through the draft process, he wasn't healthy, 398 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: so you didn't get a chance to train, didn't get 399 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: a chance to run a forty, which he would have 400 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: ran a ridiculous forty we still saw him get on 401 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: the field last year. That will make some big time 402 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: impact plays for the Baltimore Ravens. I think that goes 403 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: to another level this year. I think he gets this 404 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: full offseason. I know it's a different offseason, but he's 405 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: got a chance to at least be healthy and lift 406 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: and run and train on his own. I think he's 407 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: ready to hit the ground running. He's gonna know the 408 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: offense inside. Now they're gonna know how to use him 409 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: even more. And now you bring in J. K. Dobbins 410 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: to go along with what they already have with Ingram, 411 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna run the ball as well as they ever 412 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: have buck which is gonna pull safeties down, which means 413 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna see a lot of Hollywood down the field. 414 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: I think Hollywood Brown is gonna have a big time 415 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: breakout year. I mean he should have breakout year because 416 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: I just don't know how you could possibly double team 417 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: him or roll a corner to his side and clouded 418 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: with a safety overtop. Just because the running game is 419 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: so dynamic, Uh, you have to commit extra bodies to 420 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: dealing with Lamar Jackson and all of the runners that 421 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: they have, and the way that the Ravens are playing, 422 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: they are looking for home run plays in the passing game. 423 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown wasn't fully healthy coming off the foot injury 424 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: and those things. I don't even think we've scratched the 425 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: surface at what he could be as a playmaker in 426 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: this offense. Looking at the video of Lamar Jackson and 427 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: Hollywood working on routes in the park, I just believe 428 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: that combination is going to be super explosive. Hollywood Brown 429 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: templus touchdowns. I think it's easy to fact forecast at 430 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: as this offense continues to grow. All Right, who you 431 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: got next? Man? The team that beat up the Baltimore 432 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: Ravens in the playoffs. Jeffrey Simmons for the Tennessee Titans. 433 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons played nine games last year. I think if 434 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons doesn't get hurt in the run up to 435 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: the draft, we're talking about a top five player in 436 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: the draft, maybe the best defensive play in the draft. 437 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: The way that he is a disruptive force not only 438 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: against the run but against the pass. Well, now that 439 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: he is back and committed, uh, he understands the speed 440 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: of the pro game. I just think a full season 441 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: of Simmons on the inside is going to take this 442 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans defense up a Nutch. They could go from 443 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: good to great as he begins to impose his will 444 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: on opponents. I mean, what a value pick, right, I mean, 445 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: I know we said it at the time, like if 446 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: this he's healthy, he's top five pick all day. Um, 447 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 1: but I thought, man, not only even if you had 448 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: to ret shirt him, that's a good pick because of 449 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: what he can be potentially. But man, they got good 450 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: work out of him last year and that was kind 451 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: of like a little bonus what they're able to get 452 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: out of him last year. Now you're gonna get him 453 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: healthy through the whole offseason. He's got a chance to 454 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: be a perennial Pro Bowl player. I'm with you on that. 455 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm piggybacking you and following you on 456 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: a lot of these because, um, I had a different 457 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: player down I ended up switching it because I almost 458 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: this is like a forgotten guy, Quentin Williams. Remember what 459 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: we were saying about Quentin Williams coming into that draft. Yeah, yeah, 460 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 1: I mean we had Bosa over him, but it was 461 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: like he was in the conversation. Yeah, he was right there. 462 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: Two and a half sacks last year, did not really 463 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: have a big time impact at all for the Jets. Now, 464 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know how great he is is 465 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: a fit in Greg Williams defense. Um, but I just 466 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: think that Greg Williams has been a good defense accordion 467 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: in this league for a very long time. He's gonna 468 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: get more comfortable with him and how to use him, 469 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: and I think Quinn and Williams will be able to 470 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: make that adjustment. I just can't believe, you know that 471 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: we're not going to see a better version of this kid. 472 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: As dominant as he was in SEC, the best division 473 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: in college football. It couldn't block him. It didn't matter 474 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: who they were playing, Againt quinnin Williams was unblockable. And 475 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: I just have to believe that we're gonna see that 476 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: player emerge here and we're gonna see more from him 477 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: because that, I'll be honest with the buck that was 478 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: disappointing last year. I thought we'd see more out of him. Yeah, 479 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: when I talk the guys on the side, like just 480 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: maybe some immaturity, just send a trying to figured out 481 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: and it can be a big stage, going from Alabama 482 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: to New York and all the things that come along 483 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: with being in New York. JET. But I do believe 484 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: he is too good, too talented not to be the 485 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: player that we thought that he would be. You're right 486 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: about Greg Williams system. Uh Is he an ideal fit? 487 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I do believe the player is 488 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: certainly good enough to be a dominant player, and at 489 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: some point that talent is going to bubble up, and 490 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: I think hopefully this year we will kind of see 491 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: him play at his best. Yeah, anybody else you want 492 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: to add in? Hair Buck that that's a pretty good 493 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: list We've got, Man, that's a great list. Um. You know, 494 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: the thing that we've always said, most players have their 495 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: biggest improvement from the first year to the second year, 496 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: even without the offseason and the O T A S 497 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: and those things. I think because they finally understand the 498 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: speed of the game, the expectation, and the responsibilities that 499 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: come along with being a marquee player, they settle in. 500 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: I think this is the year that we see a 501 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: lot of guys kind of reached their potential in their 502 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: second season in the league. I think there's a bunch 503 00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: of guys in that group. We didn't even mention that 504 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: are gonna have a chance to make a big time 505 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: impact this year. UM, let's set some of these college 506 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: kids here. UM. We both have spent some time studying 507 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: the top three quarterbacks, the top three names, I guess 508 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: you should say, and I've got I'll tease that I've 509 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: got the first look series that's gonna be coming on 510 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com, where what I do is I'll watch 511 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: three games on a player, UM, and it's kind of 512 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: just my first exposure to him, my first impression, and 513 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: I'll do a little right up on them. And I 514 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: think the first one is coming either later this week 515 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: or early next week, is gonna be Justin Fields, the 516 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: Ohio State quarterback. But I spent time watching Trevor Lawrence 517 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: from Clemson, Justin Fields from Ohio State, and then Trey 518 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 1: Lance from North Dakota State. And I've seen you know, 519 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: you've seen these guys when you're studying other players, and 520 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: you kind of see the flashes, but you don't sit 521 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: down there for the first time and and and dig 522 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: in and watch three tapes. We'll obviously get a chance 523 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: to watch a lot more as we go through the 524 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: process and then through next year. But it's it's a 525 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: healthy exercise. I think during this time of the year 526 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: buck to get that first exposure these players. Well, when 527 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: we were working for a team DJ, this is what 528 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: we would do, like the month of June is what 529 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: we call doing quote unquote junior tape. What it is 530 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: is um the list come out. We we get a 531 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: feel for who are the players in our area. And 532 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: what you do is you go back and look at 533 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: last year's film on those guys. And part of the 534 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: reason why you're doing that is just first exposure. It's 535 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: also to help you set your schedule in terms of 536 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: who do I really need to see multiple times. I 537 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: need to see him early in training camp in August, 538 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: I need to see him again in the middle of 539 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: the year, and I have enough time. I need to 540 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: go back one more time at the end of the 541 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: year and see them. And so normally you want to 542 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: reserve those trips for your A listers, your top players, 543 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: and so your first Look series is really a microcosm 544 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: of that. It is he let me these are the 545 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: names that we're hearing. Let me get a glance at 546 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: them to kind of get a feel for what they are, 547 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: and I'm not married to what I say about them 548 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: in the summertime. But this is kind of like the foundation, 549 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: the jump off point for what my evaluation will be 550 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: as we kind due a look at them. Yeah, it's 551 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: just that first glimpse. Again, I just used that that phrase, 552 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: the first look. It's our first look at these players. 553 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: And we always talk about, you know, maybe this is 554 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: the right city, right. We always use the line, you know, 555 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: get him in the right neighborhood. Eventually we'll get him 556 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: in the right house. During the summer, I feel like, 557 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: let's get him in the right city. Man, let's just 558 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: get him in the right city. Kind of are you dude? 559 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: Are you not a dude? Then we'll go to the fall, 560 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: we'll try and get you in the right uh, you know, 561 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: the right neighborhood. And then we get the draft day. 562 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: We need to have you in the right home. Um. 563 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: But again, it's just that kind of first big picture 564 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: look at these guys. So why don't you fire away 565 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: here on the on the first one, Trevor Lawrence, somebody, 566 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: you've got a chance. And when we both got a 567 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: chance to see him up there at the at the 568 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: opening in high school, Uh, so you've seen this kid 569 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: for a long time. The hype was was incredible. Um, 570 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: but he was good enough to put a an undefeated 571 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: starter on the bench right that you're at Clemson. Uh, yeah, 572 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: he's he he came, he came with hype, and so 573 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: far he's lived up to it. But what have you 574 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: seen from when you really studied him? Look, man, he came, 575 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: he came into Clempson build as to cast me out, 576 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: and he certainly has lived up to it. Uh. Six six, 577 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: two twenty pounds. Uh. He's a rare combination of a 578 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: guy who has outstanding armed talent and explosive athleticism for 579 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: a guy that is his statue. You really don't see 580 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: guys that are six six that can move like he moves. Um. 581 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: I think the things that stand out to me, uh, 582 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: his movement skills, the fact that he's able to run 583 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: like quarterback re game quarterback design runs. Uh. They did 584 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: it this year more than last year, and he really 585 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: thrived at that. He is what I call a big 586 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: play hunter. He wants the big play. He wants to 587 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: push the ball down the field. He throws more fifty 588 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: fifty balls to his playmakers than anybody that I've seen 589 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: in recent years, and that includes Joe Burrow. Because Joe 590 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: Burrow made a living off of the ball. The reason 591 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: why he does it at Clemson, Clemson had a basketball 592 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: team on the outside. All of their receivers are six 593 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: two six three year taller. He throws it up, lets 594 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: him go, gets it, and trust him. I think. Um. 595 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: The thing that I absolutely love about his game he 596 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: has the back show to fade down. Aaron Rodgers has 597 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: made a living off of it in Green Bay. Trevor 598 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: Lawrence has that club in his bag. The one thing 599 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: that I worry about Trevor Lawrence, I think he's more 600 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 1: of a score than a shooter. Um. He is super talented. 601 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: He's a playmaker. I don't know how refined he is 602 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: in terms of a I'm gonna play Connect the Dots 603 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: football from the pocket meaning I'm gonna take the check down. 604 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna work at horizontally from east to west. I'm 605 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: gonna mixing some pushes down the field. To me, he's 606 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: a guy that is he's looking for the big ball 607 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: whenever it's there, and he's going to take it. And 608 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: I just wondered, is he refined enough to play a 609 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: discipline underneath game when teams take that away. The last 610 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: two games in the playoffs L s U in Ohio 611 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 1: State collectively, he was right around completion rate, and some 612 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: of that is due to them playing snug coverage on 613 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: the outside. Lawrence doesn't necessarily worked underneath areas like he 614 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: could or should when they take away the deep ball 615 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: and make him play with patients and discipline and this 616 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: this is that's fantastic book. I think it's great for 617 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: listeners to know that we talked about kind of what 618 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: you want to watch here, and we were talking to 619 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: this before we went on about another of these guys. 620 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: But which games did you watch? So that you can 621 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: go over which games you watched. Then I'll tell you 622 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: which games I watched, and we kind of see that 623 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: if there's any differences based off just the games that 624 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: you watch. So I watched him versus U n C. 625 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: I'll watch U v A the a c C championship game, 626 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: and then I watched L s U in Ohio State. 627 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: Also through in Georgia Tech two. Okay, you get a 628 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: nice study there, and I saw five game eval there 629 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: over the summer. Was nothing. There's nothing on TV, so 630 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: I just I just go through it all, right. I 631 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: watched Texas A and M early games South Carolina and 632 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: Ohio State, and we all saw, I mean, we've seen 633 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: the L s U tape so many times doing all 634 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: these guys for the draft that uh, and I know 635 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: he did not play as well in that game, So 636 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: I wanted I was gonna put that one aside and 637 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: watch these other three games. See what I came up with. Um, 638 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: this is this is what I really liked about Trevor Lawrence. 639 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: Everything is real crisp. He's got real crisp feet. Um, 640 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: he's real urgent in his movement. He's real sudden, he's explosive. 641 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: He's an explosive mover with with his quickness inside the pocket. Um, 642 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: he can really drive the football. Um, he's got a 643 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: quick delivery. He can tighten up his delivery. When he's 644 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: throwing things underneath, you can see him change it and 645 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: tighten it up a little bit and gets a little 646 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: bit long at times, but he has the ability to 647 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: tighten it up. He can anticipate and work in the 648 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: middle of the field. He's not here's no fear with 649 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: the way he plays. You talked about attacking. He loves 650 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: to attack down the field. Um. You talked about him 651 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: as a runner. Um, he's got big he builds up 652 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: that speed with that long stride. He's a tough kid. 653 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: He'll drop his shoulder, um, and and and show you 654 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: some of that toughness, which maybe not the best idea 655 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: going forward. UM. I don't see him get to the 656 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: number three in the progression very often. It's usually one 657 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: or two balls out or take off and go. Um. 658 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: There's times where his feet can trail his eyes a 659 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: little bit, where he's working through progression with his eyes 660 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: but his feet aren't following him there. So that's something 661 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: you can wrecked and you can work on. Um. He 662 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: can escape and create plays, which I love. Um. The 663 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: major knock that I had on him is I just 664 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: didn't think he was as accurate as I would have hoped, 665 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, just in terms of pinpoint accuracy, ball placement. 666 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: Some of them are completions, because he's got great guys, 667 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: but I didn't I didn't see an elite level accuracy. 668 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: And also on some of the deep balls. And this 669 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: is the product of what you discussed. When you have 670 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: big receivers like that, better to be under thrown than overthrown. Right, 671 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: you give you guys a chance. But there's several in 672 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: the in these games that I watched, there's several balls 673 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: or man, he's got guys, just put it out there, 674 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: let him go run underneath that. Um so some under 675 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: thrown balls there. So that was kind of my my takeaway. 676 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: I look, he's he's a fantastic prospect, but you know, 677 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't It wasn't the accuracy level that maybe I 678 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: would have expected. And again, this is just the three 679 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: games that I watched. DJ like, so I think we 680 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: see him very very similarly. Um I don't. I think 681 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: our descriptions are very close. I felt like the rouse 682 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: that he is absolutely a dimethrower, uh bang aids and slants. 683 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: His ability to run the r p O game or 684 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: the fake play action and hit the uh the skinny 685 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: post uh on time. He can throw all those in 686 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: breaking routes for someone with his stronger b arm. You 687 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: don't really see him throw many outbreaking routes. Outside the numbers. 688 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: You will see a sale or maybe a bench route, 689 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: but he doesn't really throw comebacks and those things or whatever. Uh. 690 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: It's funny, my notes. I have footwork and inconsistent rhythm, 691 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: like I I did feel like like his feet weren't 692 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: always in rhythm where you can just deal on time. 693 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: And now I'm saying that knowing that the talent is tremendous, 694 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: like the talent is off the charts. But I am 695 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: saying because we've heard comparisons to Andrew Luck and best 696 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: prospecting those things, I would say that Andrew Luck was 697 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: more refined and more polished at this stage, like and you. 698 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: Luck was was dealing the cards like a casino dealer, 699 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: like he understood how to kind of get from one 700 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: to two to three in rhythm on time. Trevor doesn't 701 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: necessarily play on time and on schedule all the time, 702 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: but his arm talent is so great that he's able 703 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: to make up for it. I will say this his escapability. 704 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: He is unique in his ability to escape to the 705 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: left and make accurate throws. Most right hand quarterbacks when 706 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: they go when they go left, the bad stuff happens 707 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: for Trevor. The big place happened when he escapes to 708 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: his left. M All right, let's let's get to justin 709 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: fields here. What what games did you watch and what 710 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: you see? Buck? So justin Fields was um Michigan game 711 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: Clemson playoff game, Michigan State, and it was one other 712 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: maybe Rutgers. I think Rutgers is what I have written. 713 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: Now here's what Here's what I would say. He is 714 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: a time in a rhythm thrower. To me, he plays 715 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: a little more of the intermediate game, A plus playmaker, 716 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: excellent arm is. He's a time and rhythm pass it 717 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: with pop uh. He throws on time, He's accurate, he 718 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: throws with a variety of pace on his throws, and 719 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: he really does a good job of working to ten 720 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: to twenty yard box um digs, comebacks, all those things. 721 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: He throws it. I think he is a really good runner. 722 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: He's tough and explosive. He is better to me when 723 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: they play up tempo and they play with pace. He 724 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: just kind of it just kind of hits his wheelhouse. 725 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: My areas of concern with him blitz reaction versus changing coverage. 726 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: When teams brought pressure and they could change the coverage. 727 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: Many they would bring a variety of pressure up front, 728 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: but the coverage may go from man to zone to 729 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: hot coverage, and he's experienced with that. Because I thought 730 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: I saw some problems and then I think the bigger 731 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: thing and This is just one of those things that 732 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 1: just kind of hangs in the distance, Um, the stuff 733 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: that you hear about him from Georgia, not necessarily maybe 734 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: being like the most downt in worker. I just think 735 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: it needs investigation, that's all. I don't have anything to 736 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: really go by on tape. But it's just one of 737 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: the things that kind of came out of the program 738 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: at Georgia that they wanted him to take the job 739 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: from from but he didn't seize it, and he didn't 740 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: seize it because maybe he allowed from the outwork. All right, 741 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: So this is I want to I wanna go through 742 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: this a little bit because this is fascinating because the 743 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: games you mentioned, I watched Michigan, Michigan State Wisconsin. So 744 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: you watched Michigan and Michigan State, right, So we watched 745 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: a lot of same games, and this is what happens. 746 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: This is kind of a peak behind the curtain when 747 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: you go into a draft meeting. So you could have 748 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: two players who could see a player very similarly, and 749 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: you could see a player to scouts see a guy 750 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: very differently. So in this case, I want I want 751 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: to show you some of my notes here. Okay, Buck, 752 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: think about what you just said, right, I don't know 753 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: if you can see this at all, but UM see that. 754 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: Let me see if you can see it up there. 755 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can get here. Can you 756 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: see it now? So do you see things? I circled, 757 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: holds holds ball, right, holds ball sack. Uh see the rhythm. 758 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: See I've got rhythm down a couple of different places. 759 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: First read rhythm. Right, you talked about being a rhythm thrower. 760 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: Um can't does struggles to I d the blitz? You 761 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,399 Speaker 1: see that ye holds ball sack? You see that down there? 762 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: Like I was listening to you kind of go through 763 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: and and and talk about some of your notes. And 764 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: because we watched the same games, and because you know 765 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: this is it's kind of what you do, right, we 766 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: we kind of see some of the same things, have 767 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: some of the same concerns. But when he's in rhythm, 768 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: he's accurate. Um he can you know he he throws 769 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 1: an anticipation even though you'll see on a seventh step 770 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: rhythm comebacks, you'll see him back foot in the ground, 771 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: balls out on time, perfect placement. Um. But when you 772 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: have to see him, uh, you know he gets corner. 773 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: Cats are different looks that kind of come out of 774 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: the blue. He just struggled to get that, to feel that, 775 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: and to get through that. Um, I think he's outstanding 776 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: as a runner. He's very elusive as a runner. I 777 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: posted one play on on on Twitter. It shows his 778 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: ability to make people missing space. Um, he did a 779 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: good job down on the red zone. Really good ball 780 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: handling in the R P O game, very comfortable, and 781 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: that when he has to reset like he can move 782 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: and climb around. The difference I would say I would 783 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: give Lawrence the edge is that when Lawrence gets moved around, 784 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 1: he can then square up and still deliver the ball 785 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: inside the pocket in a in a nice posture and 786 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: a nice throwing posture. When he gets moved off of 787 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: his spot, he he wants this kind of drift and 788 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: get out of there, you don't see him then put 789 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: your feet back in the ground and then be able 790 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: to throw the football. So that's an area he could 791 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: he can improve on. But I thought, like Lawrence, this 792 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: this uh the same thing here with Justin Fields moving 793 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: to the left. Really good job squaring his shoulders and 794 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: being accurate when he's on the move out there. I 795 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: don't know if you notice that I put down everything's 796 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: out of a three quarter arms slot, so he's he's 797 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: a little bit lower with his but you know he 798 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 1: has a baseball background. Um he has a baseball I 799 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: know he played all the way up into college. He 800 00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: didn't get you, I need to see if he was 801 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: supposed to be a big time, big time proSP because 802 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 1: it was supposed to be a prospect or whatever. But like, 803 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: he has some of that. So maybe he gets some 804 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: of that from being able to throw from different platforms 805 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: and the like. Um, Man, it's funny how we saw 806 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: those things. But yeah, because man Blix reaction with changing coverage, 807 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: it just it just stunned them. And some of that 808 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: is in travel Lawrence, We're seeing a guy who was 809 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: a two year starter and justin fields it's a one 810 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: year starter. And so the experience factor, just the amount 811 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: of reps being in games and those things. And the 812 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: funny thing is I end up putting the same grade 813 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: on both of the guys. But I mean, I think 814 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: both guys have some work to do. When we talk 815 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: about comparing them to some of the greats that have 816 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: come out in recent years in the last decade, I 817 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: just think they have things that they certainly can work on. 818 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 1: I don't think they're finished products by any means, heading 819 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: into their final seasons or what could be their final seasons. 820 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: If I was going to use the one, the one 821 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 1: main difference, it's really simple, right, A simple word vision. 822 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: I think I I have Lawrence overfields because I think 823 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: Lawrence has a better vision, and that comes some of 824 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: it's I ding pressure. Some of that's also just missing 825 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: some opportunities justin fields misses when he has some opportunities 826 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: just just overall field vision. I don't think he's as 827 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: good as Lawrence in terms just how he sees the field. 828 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: It's funny because I have these guys described as shooter 829 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 1: and score. I think justin Fields is more natural in 830 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: the pocket and rhythm, so I think he's more of 831 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: a shooter. I think Trevor Lawrence is a better score, 832 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: meaning if the game breaks down, like he can improvise 833 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: and find ways and he just finds a way to 834 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: to to make these big plays or whatever. It's a 835 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: fascinating thing. And I think the thing that's really fascinating 836 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: about the two of them, they have always been linked together, 837 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: one in two whatever order. But I think they grew 838 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,280 Speaker 1: up within two miles of each other. So how uncommon 839 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: that that those guys are from Georgia and they've always 840 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: been so now it reminds me a lot of the 841 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: Julio Jones a j Green thing. They never can be separated, 842 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: just because they've always been kind of joined at the hit. 843 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: That's interesting. All right, let's get to the third one here. Uh, 844 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: this is trade lance M. We've talked about a little 845 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: bit before. But North Dakota State, Um, what games did 846 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: you watch and what did you see? Buck? I watched 847 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 1: Montana State, Nickels State, and in the championship game James Madison. Uh. 848 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: First thing that I put in my notes rock solid 849 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: quarterback prospect like rock solid, not not not a lot 850 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: to worry about with him, very good armtown athleticism. Dual 851 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: Threat has a game that works in any system. Shotgun, 852 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: under center, vertical, horizontal, bootlegs, play action, whatever it is, 853 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: he can do it. Um. I love him in the 854 00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: run game design run Scrambles, He's tough, he's physical. In 855 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: the passing game, he can catch rock and throw. You 856 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: see him with the bubbles and the swing passes. How 857 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: can police your percentage? Takes? The layups when the laps 858 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: are there, makes great decisions and in fact, in my 859 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: notes I said he is a perfect Kyle Shanahan quarterback. Um. 860 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: In fact, I wrote down, I won't even pull up 861 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: my notebook. I wrote down Jimmy Garoppolo because to me, 862 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: when I'm looking at him, he reminds me a lot 863 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 1: of Jimmy Garoppolo. When I watched Jimmy Garoppolo at Eastern 864 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: Illinois Rhythm Patients timing better runner. But looking at how 865 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo plays in San Francisco's offense, you put Tray 866 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: Lance in that offense. Tray Lance is a superstar. All right, 867 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: So let's let's do a little bit of this again. Here, 868 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,040 Speaker 1: show you a little bit of things that I circled 869 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 1: here about. Can you see yeah? Undergun, under centered, under gun, Yeah, 870 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: all of that. Hold on, let see see see you 871 00:40:52,400 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: see the um takes the layups. Isn't that funny? Yeah? 872 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: Like I mean, he does. It is easy to watch him, 873 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 1: like you almost get scared watch him because I'm like, man, 874 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: this dude, man, he man. He does a lot of 875 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: good things. The only thing that I knocked him on 876 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: a little bit. Um, he has some moments where he 877 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: was a little streaky with the accuracy and ball placement. 878 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 1: Likes he would skip some balls on the outside a 879 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: little bit, But I mean overall, like men, he's he's 880 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: an easy All three of these guys are pretty easy evaluations. 881 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 1: But he is definitely someone did man I could see 882 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: winning with because he takes care of the ball, he 883 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:43,479 Speaker 1: could run it. He's versatile, he's adaptable. Um, I think 884 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: whatever kind of offensive coordinator you are, and I just 885 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: think he works. I think he works in your system 886 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: scheme for him. All right, let me let me preface 887 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: this by saying three games, Right, I've watched three games 888 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,399 Speaker 1: on this kid, and maybe and maybe there's I'm sure 889 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: there are I'm sure there's other games where he's got 890 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: there's bad tape on everybody, right, I'm sure there's bad 891 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: tape out there. I didn't see a lot of negatives 892 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: with this kid when I watched him, and again I 893 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,840 Speaker 1: watched you see Davis Nichols and Delaware. I know the 894 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: level of competition, it is what it is. But the 895 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: stuff that we that you talked about, you know you 896 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: can play in any system. He play under ease in 897 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:22,160 Speaker 1: the gun. Um, he's got excellent ball handling. He's outstanding 898 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: with all that stuff. UM, But I want to before 899 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: I get to the rest of the notes, I want 900 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: to go through the checklist of the five things, because 901 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 1: we always say you gotta you gotta have your values, 902 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: what you believe in, and stick to him. So I 903 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: started when when I started evaluating and kind of doing 904 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 1: homework on guys that hitting, guys that missed at the 905 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: quarterback position, I kind of boiled down to my big three. 906 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: And I've since added two to this. And some of 907 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: it's from our discussions with these different coaches, with the 908 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: Urban Meyers, Davil Sweeney's, all these different guys UM, as 909 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: well as talking guys at the NFL level. But I 910 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: started with accuracy, decision making, and poise, the big three right, accuracy, 911 00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: decision making, poise. Since then, I've added playmaking, ability, and toughness, 912 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: So that gives you five pillars. Right. This kid's accuracy 913 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: of the games that I watched was was excellent, was 914 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 1: very good. His decision making is impeccable. I mean he 915 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 1: he does not put the ball in harms. So he 916 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: had one probably one turnover worthy thrown an throw a 917 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: pick this year, not one, not a single pick so, 918 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: decision making, outstanding poise. I mean he's very comfortable, very 919 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: calm with with his poise. His playmaking ability outstanding. I 920 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 1: mean he can create with his legs, he can extend 921 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 1: plays to throw, he can take off and run. You 922 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: can use him on design, QB power, all these different 923 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: quarterback run game you saw Carson Wentz do there, his 924 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: kid does the same thing. And the last thing is 925 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: the toughness. I've seen this kid drop his shoulder at 926 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: the four yard line and run over a safety uh 927 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: to get in the end zone. I mean he's he 928 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: is tough, you'll hang in the pocket. So he literally 929 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: hits everything on my checklist. So I go through and 930 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: look at some of the other notes. Here the big 931 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: thing I started this three times confident trust his eyes. 932 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: There is no hesitation when he sees it. If it's there, 933 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: boom take it. If it's not there, I'm off of it. 934 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: I'm working down my checkdowns, get the ball out. We 935 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 1: just keep moving the ball down the field. He's efficient. 936 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: I think you used the combination kind of efficient explosive 937 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,359 Speaker 1: like this kid can. He has got a loose arm, 938 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: he has the arm strength to beat coverage, and he 939 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: has he does a nice job of of those opportunities 940 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 1: to take it. He takes it, but he isn't too 941 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,760 Speaker 1: it's not too much. He's not over aggressive with it. Um, 942 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 1: they ran over the safety that was in the U. C. 943 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: Davis game. Oh he does that, he doesn't think, Yeah, 944 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: that's I think that's the thing. He kinda he kind 945 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: of sneaks like he's going out of bound and he 946 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 1: turns up and he and he just drums him. I 947 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 1: saw him. I saw him work full field more than 948 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 1: the other two guys did too. I saw him work 949 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: all the way across the field, get deeper into progressions. 950 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 1: Now he's playing with a really good team against teams 951 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 1: that aren't as good as his UM. So, I mean, look, 952 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: Ohio State and Clemson are gonna be better than just 953 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 1: about over where they line up against two. But there's 954 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: there was a distinctive different there. So I take that 955 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,760 Speaker 1: into account. Um. I thought he had really good vision 956 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: and feel down in the red zone. I thought he 957 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: threw with good touch. Um, if it's not there, he'll 958 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: take it and run. I mean, I just we used 959 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 1: the phrase right, don't scout the helmet. So if you 960 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 1: don't have reputation and you don't scout the helmet and 961 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: just watch three games. I just watched three games on 962 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: these three players. Based off the three games that I watched, 963 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: this kid was the most impressive of the three quarterbacks. 964 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: And again, people will lose their mind over that Trevor 965 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: Lawrence is outstanding, and Trevor Lawrence you know, is gonna 966 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 1: be the in the pole position coming into the fall. 967 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 1: But just off the small sample size, I thought this 968 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,800 Speaker 1: kid played better than Trevor Lawrence and justin fields and 969 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: the three games I watched. So here's a couple of 970 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: things to that statement. And um, like we've been at 971 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: this enough to understand like how the evaluation process goes. 972 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a starting point, right and so, um, 973 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,320 Speaker 1: when you see someone like this, and just so everyone understands, 974 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: like we will dub him as a small school player, 975 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: But what happens is when you see someone that plays 976 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: like this at a small school, you put a little 977 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: star in your nose. Because this means that I not 978 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: only need to go, um watch him again, but I 979 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: need to go see him in person. I need to 980 00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: really get a feel for who he is as a 981 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 1: player and who he's playing against. So I can just 982 00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: gotta have better context. But here's what I said about 983 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: North Dakota State. The last two quarterbacks that have played 984 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: there have played or playing in the National Football League, 985 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,919 Speaker 1: Carson Winston, Eastern State. Like, we've seen those guys play 986 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 1: and play in the league. The offense that they run 987 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: translates very well to the National Football League what they're 988 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,799 Speaker 1: asking their quarterbacks to do. It is an easy evaluation 989 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,839 Speaker 1: because when I turn off their film and I turned 990 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: on Sunday tape, it's the same. And even though the 991 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: league is morphing into more college football like stuff at quarterback, 992 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: it's still easy to see him play in a system 993 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: that we will dub more pro style and be like, Okay, 994 00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 1: I can see that working. The only reason why I 995 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 1: really didn't put tray Lance above those guys is because 996 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm a little more conservative when I see someone at 997 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 1: that level that I just kind of paused before going big, 998 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: even though I've had mentors tell me, oh no, go 999 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: big all times, like, regardless of the level, go big. 1000 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 1: The only reason that I've paused on trade Lance is 1001 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: because it's a little different apples or oranges. So when 1002 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: I looked at the grades, I'm still using an old 1003 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: grading scale. I had Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields at 1004 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: seven three. I have trade Lance at like seven one. 1005 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,320 Speaker 1: And so what we're talking about is the difference between 1006 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: maybe a top ten pick and a top fifteen, the 1007 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 1: top twenty pick. The separation isn't that great. But I 1008 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: just had him a notch below until I see him 1009 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: this year or whatever. But we're speaking the same language. 1010 00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: He is in the conversation with those other two guys. 1011 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: How about that. I'm thinking back, I this will be 1012 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: a fun beside. Maybe somebody can do this. It's listening. 1013 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: Go back and look at one of these up. But 1014 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 1: I remember my first mock draft Carson Wentz's year. I 1015 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: think I had him going like three or he was 1016 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: a guy hadn't going to the top ten, and at 1017 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: the time it was like a little bit similar to 1018 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 1: this discussion of fringe first rounder, like this guy potentially 1019 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 1: could go in the first round. I remember that came 1020 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 1: out the week of the Senior Bowl and I was like, no, 1021 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 1: this dude, he I had him as the top quarterback 1022 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: and he was like way up there. People lose their 1023 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: minds because it's easy for us to say, don't scout 1024 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 1: the helmet um. But as a general public, you're like, 1025 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: I've been watching Trevor Lawrence play on the big stage 1026 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 1: week after week. I don't even know. But that's not 1027 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 1: even it. I've heard everybody tell me that he's going 1028 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: to be number one for the last two years. So 1029 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,600 Speaker 1: when you come with something different, what are you telling me? 1030 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,399 Speaker 1: Everybody else is telling me that he is the luck. 1031 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 1: He's the best thing that we've seen since Andrew Luck. 1032 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 1: So why all of a sudden now is it different? Yeah, yeah, 1033 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 1: that's what it is. And again we we've got You've 1034 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 1: got plenty of time that there's no nothing's written in 1035 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: ink right now, and we'll see how this kid does. 1036 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 1: All I know is if you're asking me, do I 1037 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,919 Speaker 1: like my quarterback to never lose football games and never 1038 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,720 Speaker 1: turn the ball over? Yeah, I'm into that. Call me crazy. 1039 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 1: I like that. I mean, one of you. I don't 1040 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: know if there's ever been a more impressive stat line 1041 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,360 Speaker 1: what this kid did. Go do yourself a favorite. Go 1042 00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: look up his numbers. Twenty eight touchdowns, no picks. I 1043 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: think it ran for over a thousand yards, a ton 1044 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,320 Speaker 1: of touchdowns on the grounds. Didn't by the way, I 1045 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 1: didn't lose a football game, one a national championship first 1046 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: year as starter. I mean, that's what you like. And 1047 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: I think I think we can say that for for 1048 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: most of these kids, like um, they take care of it, 1049 00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: they win at a high level, they understand it. I 1050 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: think the overall theme of the discussion. If I'm a 1051 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,719 Speaker 1: team in need of a quarterback, and I can't think 1052 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,800 Speaker 1: of many teams I feel good about this next class 1053 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 1: coming down to I feel I feel real good about 1054 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,720 Speaker 1: the three that could be in this next draft class. 1055 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,359 Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. Yeah, it's it's gonna be fun. Man. 1056 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,160 Speaker 1: It's again first look series, just getting the first look 1057 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: at these guys. Will do a deeper dive on as 1058 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: we go through the fall, and this will adjust and change, 1059 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: but it's exciting. I just I think it's definitely at 1060 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,839 Speaker 1: least you have to say this is the three there 1061 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: three dudes, man, Like, this is not this is not 1062 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: just Trevor Lawrence all by himself, Like there's this is 1063 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,879 Speaker 1: an incredible class so far, the first look at these 1064 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: three guys, and I think it's important that people understand 1065 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,000 Speaker 1: when we talk about his three dudes, it is a 1066 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 1: legit competition with three dudes, It's not like, oh, here 1067 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,439 Speaker 1: the first few, dad are going to go and we're 1068 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 1: just going to anoint Trevor Lawrence or whoever as number one. Like, no, 1069 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 1: we really need to see how this plays out, because 1070 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 1: this discussion next year draft time could be what Hey, 1071 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: Tredy Lawrence is legitimately the number one guy at the 1072 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,919 Speaker 1: position and we need to give him his just due. 1073 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: It'll be a fascinating, fascinating discussion, fascinating, fascinating thing to 1074 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,160 Speaker 1: track as we go through this season. How funny is 1075 00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,800 Speaker 1: it does to wrap that up to how funny is 1076 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,640 Speaker 1: it that literally some of the exact same words we 1077 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,400 Speaker 1: use and that takes layups like it's just funny. We 1078 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: all have our kind of just scouting language that we speak. Yeah, 1079 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: it's man, it's god, it's so it's so funny. It 1080 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: is funny though, when you have these moments, um, where 1081 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: you do use like language and you do see those 1082 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 1: same things or whatever. Either we've been around each other 1083 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 1: too much we're be getting to finish each other sitizens, 1084 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 1: or we've been in the game enough to kind of 1085 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 1: understand the trades day we we both liked no doubt, Um, 1086 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 1: all right, well we do want to remind everybody we've 1087 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,719 Speaker 1: got the TV show coming up that is six Eastern Thursday. Um, 1088 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,680 Speaker 1: you can check that one out. And we are going 1089 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 1: to have another baseball games. We have Dave Roberts, the 1090 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 1: manager of the Dodgers, is going to join us. And 1091 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,959 Speaker 1: why are we having another baseball guy on after John 1092 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,920 Speaker 1: Smoltz last week, Because this entire episode is going to 1093 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 1: be about comebacks and Dave Roberts knows about comebacks on 1094 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 1: a team. Keep play that stolen base there that helped 1095 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,359 Speaker 1: the Red Sox survive in advance and help them stay 1096 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: alive i should say, against the Yankees coming back from 1097 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: three down, uh to win a seven game series. So 1098 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: he's been a part of that, So we're gonna kind 1099 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 1: of tie that into our comeback theme. And then also 1100 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: as a part of a team that was unbelievable in 1101 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 1: the regular season last year, but couldn't you know, couldn't 1102 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: get it done in the postseason. It reminds us a 1103 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: little bit of what we saw last year with the 1104 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. So what lessons can the Ravens learn from 1105 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 1: from Dave Roberts experience. So looking forward to having him 1106 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 1: on the show. And uh, it should be a good one. 1107 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 1: What else you got bucking that you want to add 1108 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 1: before you get out of here? No, it should be going. 1109 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to talking to Dave Roberts and 1110 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: just kind of learning more about the crossover. Um and 1111 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 1: then look, man, really excited about the show. I think 1112 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 1: we're doing some really good things on the Movie Sticks 1113 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: TV show, especially when we're gonna do the themes. Comebacks, 1114 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,000 Speaker 1: people that overcome an adversity, bounced back players, bounced back teams, 1115 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: and position groups should be fun. There you go. Well, 1116 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us. I want to thank 1117 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,200 Speaker 1: everybody behind the scenes helping us keep this thing rolling. 1118 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 1: Here in the Bill does a great job of editing 1119 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: this down with all of us in different locations, so 1120 00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 1: special shout out to the Bill for all of his 1121 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 1: hard work. Uh during this period of time. That's gonna 1122 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:03,839 Speaker 1: do it for us. Thank you guys so much for listening. 1123 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,160 Speaker 1: We'll catch you next time right here on, Move the Sticks.