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Speaker 1: Friends Forever. What's up? And welcome inside Studio thirty four.
Speaker 1: This is the Fantasy Best Friends Forever. Greg Susman is
Speaker 1: still rehabby from the flu right now as we speak,
Speaker 1: but I'm here. Frank Stam at Rural Underscore Frank on
Speaker 1: Twitter joined as always, as always, this week it seems
Speaker 1: like always my good buddy Fantasy tags Jim Day, Jim
Speaker 1: as always. How are you doing? And how did you
Speaker 1: sleep last night? Hey, I'm doing Greg great, Frank, And
Speaker 1: uh yeah, my sleep is interrupted these days. Uh too
Speaker 1: too much stuff going on in my head. Well, I
Speaker 1: hope it's nothing like you know, I hope it's not
Speaker 1: like Corey who's in your head? You know, causing you
Speaker 1: to lose some sleep at night. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: you know, uh Corey, you know, tossing back and forth
Speaker 1: and uh Corey said this, Corey said that Mount Rushmore
Speaker 1: to this Mount Rushmore of that. I hope it's I
Speaker 1: hope it's not Corey that's keeping you up at night. Jim.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of responses yesterday in terms of
Speaker 1: when I asked people, you know, what, what do you
Speaker 1: want us to be talking about now in the month
Speaker 1: of j anywhere, you know, when we're talking about like
Speaker 1: that Cam Newton injury for next year still very early.
Speaker 1: Whether you want to hear more NBA content, you want
Speaker 1: to hear, you want to start, you know, dipping our
Speaker 1: toes a little bit into baseball. So we did. We
Speaker 1: did get a lot of feedback. I appreciate everyone reaching
Speaker 1: out and and giving me that. I think starting next week,
Speaker 1: hopefully Gregson will be returned by then. Not that I
Speaker 1: don't love doing the show with Jim, because I do,
Speaker 1: but I think once greg is back, we'll do a
Speaker 1: segment per day highlighting a baseball move that has happened
Speaker 1: in the off season and how it affects fantasy baseball
Speaker 1: so James Paxton to the Yankees, what it means for
Speaker 1: fantasy baseball value up or down? Guys like Paul Goldschmid
Speaker 1: going to the Cardinals, Uh Yasmani Grandal going to the
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers. So we'll kind of do like one player
Speaker 1: per day or like one move that has happened throughout
Speaker 1: the off season, just to kind of like, al right,
Speaker 1: slowly get ourselves back into yeah, back into the baseball spirit, Jim,
Speaker 1: because before you know it, the middle of February, we
Speaker 1: got pictures and catchers reporting about a month away from now.
Speaker 1: Before you it'll it'll it'll be close to baseball season,
Speaker 1: we'll have spring training, all these things happening. I did
Speaker 1: want to ask you you are you far into the
Speaker 1: Black Book, the Fantasy Baseball Black Book? Is there anything
Speaker 1: that you've learned to this point? Is do you have
Speaker 1: any questions? I'd be happy not not yet. I am
Speaker 1: still getting into it. I don't usually like to drive
Speaker 1: questions until I've read it through at least one full time,
Speaker 1: and then I start going through it again, and then
Speaker 1: I start putting down questions, and I'll have for people,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure I'll ask you guys plenty, But you know,
Speaker 1: first time around, I just like to read it. UH
Speaker 1: usually highlights some things that I think were important. Then
Speaker 1: I go through the entire book, and then I'll go
Speaker 1: back and do it again. Makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: As far as NBA content, I have no problem working
Speaker 1: some NBA into the show as well. I will, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of shameless plug here, throw this out there later
Speaker 1: on this afternoon. Every Thursday, we've been doing this, but
Speaker 1: today we're actually doing an even longer version. We're extending
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Speaker 1: f n T s y Our on the NBA's Twitch channel.
Speaker 1: So if you go to twitch dot tv slash NBA
Speaker 1: from four thirty to six pm this afternoon, you'll catch myself,
Speaker 1: Maria Marino, and Royce King. Really, you know, fun baseball
Speaker 1: basketball minds. Here we'll talk about the latest, like James
Speaker 1: Harden is on like one of the tears of the
Speaker 1: century gym and you know, you don't even have to
Speaker 1: be a basketball fan. You just go on Twitter and
Speaker 1: you see what's going on right now. It's insane. The
Speaker 1: guy has scored over fifty five points real life NBA
Speaker 1: points in back to back games. This is something that
Speaker 1: has only been done one other time in the NBA,
Speaker 1: and it was by Wilt Chamberlain. Mind you, the same
Speaker 1: World Chamberlain that was playing back then, when you know
Speaker 1: he's seven foot, everyone around him is not even close
Speaker 1: to that, and there was no three second violation, so
Speaker 1: you know, he was the only other person to do that.
Speaker 1: The run that James Harden is on right now for
Speaker 1: NBA purposes, he's just absolutely ridiculous. Like his price was
Speaker 1: up to fourteen thousand yesterday on Fandel and I ended
Speaker 1: up not playing him. I ended up not cashing him
Speaker 1: cashing last night and slightly because I didn't use Harden.
Speaker 1: But I don't know that I've seen really in any
Speaker 1: sport a player kind of take over like this for
Speaker 1: a DFS perspective, and their price gets to the point
Speaker 1: where I question it, but he's still meeting value. It's crazy, Jim,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen at all what's going
Speaker 1: on on the NBA. I do know that he's only
Speaker 1: the fifth player in NBA history, uh that over his
Speaker 1: last twenty games is averaging over forty points a game.
Speaker 1: Uh So he's only a fifth player in NBA history
Speaker 1: to ever do that. So he's definitely on a good
Speaker 1: stretch right now. And the guy has always been a baller.
Speaker 1: It's just you know, they're really starting to hit him now. Um.
Speaker 1: But you know, hey, look when when it comes down
Speaker 1: to it, you know, he's still got a long way
Speaker 1: to go to catch Will Chamberlain. Absolutely, absolutely, Um. But
Speaker 1: when it comes to just you know, getting back to
Speaker 1: the NBA. Look, this afternoon, go check it out Twitch
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Speaker 1: an Xbox or wherever you stream on, make sure you
Speaker 1: download Twitch and you watch us there. We'll play fantasy feud,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about fantasy basketball content. We'll talk about like
Speaker 1: the latest storylines to Marcus Cousins coming back. So um,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really excited about Cousins coming back to
Speaker 1: the NBA as well, especially with the Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 1: Last night, dream On Green after the game said quote,
Speaker 1: all hell is about to break loose. There's a lot
Speaker 1: going on in the NBA right now. We might work
Speaker 1: more of that into the show moving forward, but please
Speaker 1: make sure if you want some NBA content, we'll be
Speaker 1: doing that later on today. And just just for all
Speaker 1: these young guys, the neophytes that are in our chat room,
Speaker 1: if they don't understand what I meant about Will Chamberlain.
Speaker 1: You know, James Harden has twenty games in a row
Speaker 1: of forty plus. Uh Rick Barry was second with twenty two.
Speaker 1: Probably Bryant was next with twenty three. Elgin Baylor has
Speaker 1: thirty three. Will Chamberlain had five hundred and fifteen consecutive games,
Speaker 1: averaging forty points a game. Five hundred and fifteen. So
Speaker 1: you want to talk about a team player playing man.
Speaker 1: If DFS was around in Wilts game and I don't
Speaker 1: care how much you who could have charged for him,
Speaker 1: everybody would have been going for him. Yeah, that's absolutely right.
Speaker 1: You know. Honestly, I kind of thought that you were
Speaker 1: getting into like something off the court too, because you know,
Speaker 1: I've kind of heard some stories about guys from back
Speaker 1: in mid day, like Will chamber Like James Harden's got
Speaker 1: a long way to go in terms of uh, you know,
Speaker 1: reaching Will Chamberlain's potential Wait, wait going wait to wait
Speaker 1: to go into the gutter there, right, I expect that
Speaker 1: from Corey, not from you. Yeah. Well, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta mix it up a little bit here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Sex sells. Jim. You know, I gotta I gotta work
Speaker 1: it in some way somehow. Hey, I only charged by
Speaker 1: the pound. Oh, Jim, Oh, Jim uh for the For
Speaker 1: the rest of to day, though, we are I want
Speaker 1: to get into some of these new offensive coordinator hire
Speaker 1: some really interesting stuff here um going on in the NFL.
Speaker 1: We'll have dr a of inside injuries the next segment.
Speaker 1: Jim will hop off for that segment. Then we'll get
Speaker 1: Jim back again in the final segment where we'll just
Speaker 1: kind of like wrap up this mock draft. We did
Speaker 1: the first three rounds yesterday. We might get into like
Speaker 1: rounds four or five and six a little bit in
Speaker 1: the final segment. But I did want to talk about
Speaker 1: some of these some of these o C hires Jim.
Speaker 1: In the NFL, the Lions they let go. It was
Speaker 1: kind of like a mutual parting of the ways with
Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooter. At the end of the season, his
Speaker 1: contract was up. They opted not to bring him back.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford under Jim Bob Cooter every year except this year.
Speaker 1: Really Stafford had been playing well, but it's very clear
Speaker 1: that the direction that they want to go in with
Speaker 1: matt Patricia is they want to play defense. Mind you,
Speaker 1: they still do need a defense, right Like he wants
Speaker 1: to He basically wants to be Rex Ryan's Jets. Like
Speaker 1: he wants to play defense. He wants to be a
Speaker 1: smash mouth football team. He wants to run the football. Well,
Speaker 1: there might not be a better o C to bring
Speaker 1: in then Darryl Bevil, former o C of the Seattle Seahawks. Look,
Speaker 1: he took a lot of criticism for the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: not running the ball with Marshall Lynch on the one
Speaker 1: yard line, and rightfully so, one of the dumbest things
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in Super Bowl history. But in terms
Speaker 1: of regular season output, and this comes per our guy
Speaker 1: Michael Florio on Twitter. You tweeted this out yesterday. Under Bevil,
Speaker 1: the Seahawks never finished higher than sixteenth in past attempts.
Speaker 1: While he was the o C of the Seahawks, they
Speaker 1: finished top three in rushing attempts four different times. So
Speaker 1: I'm seeing this, Jim, and I'm thinking a huge arrow
Speaker 1: up for carry On Johnson with Matthew Stafford and Kenny
Speaker 1: Golladay turning downwards. Oh, I agree with you, absolutely. Uh
Speaker 1: to Marvin Jones as well, You know, look, at this point,
Speaker 1: it really is gonna be the same thing that we
Speaker 1: saw this year. They're gonna run the ball heavily. That's
Speaker 1: what Patrician wants. Uh. You know, Cruder didn't want that,
Speaker 1: and that's why he's out. And I'm sure he's happy
Speaker 1: about that because they weren't running kind of offense he
Speaker 1: wants to run anyway. Um, you know, this is a
Speaker 1: good higher for what Patricia wants to do. I just
Speaker 1: don't know how long Patricia is gonna be there to
Speaker 1: do it because this this is this team doesn't have
Speaker 1: a good enough defense to be that type of team
Speaker 1: where they can dominate a game with their defense and
Speaker 1: running game. They just don't have the defense to do it.
Speaker 1: So I don't think this plan is gonna work. We're
Speaker 1: gonna see another off season and you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of the offensive players on Detroit are
Speaker 1: gonna fall in in fantasy drafts. There's no doubt in
Speaker 1: my mind, especially on the passing side. Carry On Johnson,
Speaker 1: you know, he's definitely gonna get a little bit of
Speaker 1: a lift, but it's still gonna come at what cost.
Speaker 1: How how many players are they going to be able
Speaker 1: to run a game if they can't pass successfully and
Speaker 1: don't even try. Yeah, I think that makes sense, Jim.
Speaker 1: Look that I have. I'm skeptical about their defense as well,
Speaker 1: and the Lions organization. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is an organization that goes out
Speaker 1: and spends a lot of money in free agency either.
Speaker 1: So they haven't been able to draft a lot of
Speaker 1: great defensive players. I mean, and Dominin Sue was awesome
Speaker 1: when he was there. He was also a head case
Speaker 1: and there's a reason why he's not with the Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions anymore. But they really haven't. They haven't done a
Speaker 1: great job. Like they've hit on a few guys. They
Speaker 1: got Darius Lay, but they don't They don't spend a
Speaker 1: lot in free agency, right, So, like, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know that the defense is gonna like have this
Speaker 1: big turnaround where I'm with you, I don't know that
Speaker 1: they could just play ball control and like run the
Speaker 1: football lot. I will say this, Jim, I love their
Speaker 1: offensive line coming into the year because they've invested in
Speaker 1: the offensive line. They have spent a little bit there
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, and in terms of drafting, they've
Speaker 1: they've invested in the offensive line, so I think that
Speaker 1: makes sense. Like if they want to kind of go
Speaker 1: you know what the Dallas Cowboys have been doing the
Speaker 1: past three years with with Dak Prescott and the old
Speaker 1: line and Zeke and you know, maybe don't expose your
Speaker 1: defense by having them on the field that much. If
Speaker 1: that's what they're trying to do, I get it, But
Speaker 1: I still see a lot of holes in that defense.
Speaker 1: They don't spend a lot of money, right, No, they
Speaker 1: don't spend a lot of money. And the other side
Speaker 1: of that coin is, you know, how will how will
Speaker 1: they fare if they get behind? Um? You know, will
Speaker 1: they at that point turn to Stafford and say, save
Speaker 1: us and try and win this game? Or then do
Speaker 1: they still try to grind it out on the ground.
Speaker 1: You know, in this in today's NFL, this is not work. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, the defenses that played, teams that played all
Speaker 1: the great defense defense this year, none in a made
Speaker 1: it to this place. The top four teams are the
Speaker 1: top four scorers of the season. And there's a reason
Speaker 1: for that. The NFL is changing, and teams that don't
Speaker 1: change with that go by the wayside way too quickly.
Speaker 1: Moving on, jim That was one O c higher that
Speaker 1: we had yesterday. Darryl Bevil with the Detroit Lions. Also
Speaker 1: another interesting one here. The Broncos named Rich Skanarello new
Speaker 1: O c UH for their team respects him. I find
Speaker 1: this one interesting because he's never called plays at the
Speaker 1: NFL level. Now, he has called plays in college, and
Speaker 1: he's he was just the forty Niners quarterbacks coach, uh
Speaker 1: working with Kyle Shanahan as well, So again we're seeing
Speaker 1: another guy who hasn't necessarily done it at the NFL level,
Speaker 1: but because he has ties to a guy like Kyle Shanahan,
Speaker 1: he lands an O c job here with the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1: I just found it interesting because again he's never called
Speaker 1: plays at the NFL level, but Vic Fangio is a
Speaker 1: d offensive minded head coach. I thought that they would
Speaker 1: have brought in a guy with a little more experience,
Speaker 1: but again this is, you know, them trying to do
Speaker 1: something a little bit differently here. And to be fair,
Speaker 1: his work with the San Francisco forty Niners, what he's
Speaker 1: been able to get out of their quarterbacks the past
Speaker 1: couple of years, whether it was you know, Jimmy Garoppolo,
Speaker 1: Jimmy G. Gucci Garoppolo, Chris Venture's guy. Last year the
Speaker 1: final six seven games, he was awesome. And in this year,
Speaker 1: the combination of you know, Nick Mullins and pretty much
Speaker 1: whoever else they threw out there, it was formidable. Like
Speaker 1: he's done a good job as the quarterbacks coach there. So,
Speaker 1: you know, what did you think about this higher did
Speaker 1: it surprise you that they bring in a guy who
Speaker 1: hasn't called plays yet at the NFL level? Sure, a
Speaker 1: little bit, but you know, again, this is this is
Speaker 1: a guy who's you know, we're talking about a lot
Speaker 1: lately of the Sean McVeigh Tree. Well, you know, Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanon Tree is gonna have its own fruit real soon,
Speaker 1: and this is gonna be one of them. Like you said,
Speaker 1: he did a good job in San fran with all
Speaker 1: the injuries they had, kept those quarterbacks playing well. I'd
Speaker 1: like to see what he does at this level. And
Speaker 1: don't forget you know, he's got a really good guy
Speaker 1: working behind him that should be able will help him
Speaker 1: a lot if he's got any questions, and that's Mike
Speaker 1: monk Jack who's on the who's now their offensive line coach,
Speaker 1: We're talking about a guy who does have head coaching
Speaker 1: uh experience and been in this league for a while.
Speaker 1: So you know, if Scanerello has any issues at all,
Speaker 1: I'm sure Mike Munchak is gonna be there to help him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a great point. Munchack here has some experience at
Speaker 1: the NFL level, So yeah, they could bounce ideas off
Speaker 1: of each other. I just I just thought it was
Speaker 1: worth mentioning, especially what he's done. Again. That group included
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, C J Bethord, Bryant Bawyer, Nick Mullins. Over
Speaker 1: the past two years with the San Francisco forty Niners,
Speaker 1: they ranked ten in passing yards per game. The collective
Speaker 1: collective group also completed sixty point eight percent of their passes.
Speaker 1: That was per Denver Broncos dot com Skerrello is forty
Speaker 1: six years old. He does have twenty four years of
Speaker 1: coaching experience. I called plays at the collegiate level. It'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what they do with there. They
Speaker 1: I think that they'll be in the market to draft
Speaker 1: a quarterback. That guy, that quarterback I can see, you know,
Speaker 1: sitting sitting behind case Keenum for a year again, they
Speaker 1: signed Keenum to a two year contract, so uh, and
Speaker 1: a pretty lucrative contract over two years. So he I
Speaker 1: think he's going to start and at least play the
Speaker 1: majority of this year. And I think they'll kind of
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback and let that quarterback learn under under
Speaker 1: case Keenum and obviously us Generella what he's done and
Speaker 1: being a quarterbacks coach. But to be fair, and John
Speaker 1: Elway deserves all the criticism, Jim, they have not been
Speaker 1: able to draft quarterbacks like, yeah, you brought in Peyton Manning,
Speaker 1: but like Paxton Lynch was a disaster. I know they
Speaker 1: drafted like a few seventh round guys like brock Osweiler.
Speaker 1: Everything else outside of Peyton Manning has been a disaster
Speaker 1: in Denver. No, totally agree. I'm not a John that
Speaker 1: Way fan. In the front office. He has not not
Speaker 1: showing me he can evaluate talent at all, especially at
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, which if you have to find out,
Speaker 1: seeing as he's a former quarterback. Um. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with that. The one thing I will say, don't
Speaker 1: be surprised if they make an effort to try and
Speaker 1: trade for Nick Mullins um Scandrell could work with him.
Speaker 1: That they know each other quite well, and Scandrell loves
Speaker 1: this kid. He thinks he's one of the smartest guys
Speaker 1: that step on a football field. He knows the game
Speaker 1: so well, and he studies so hard and works so hard.
Speaker 1: So Scanderella really likes him. Don't be as, don't be uh,
Speaker 1: you know. I just think it's a really good possibility
Speaker 1: they go out and try and get Nick Mullins in
Speaker 1: the off season, and while he may start out, you know,
Speaker 1: backing up Keenom. If Keenom falters again this year like
Speaker 1: he did last year, don't be surprised if they make
Speaker 1: that change. I think that's a great point, because I
Speaker 1: do think Nick mollans can land somewhere as a starting
Speaker 1: quarterback with Jimmy g expected back with the San Francisco
Speaker 1: four Niners. Real quick, Jim, we would have about thirty
Speaker 1: seconds left. Darn Di Filippo hired as the Jaguars O C,
Speaker 1: the former o C of the Vikings. We know he
Speaker 1: was fired midseason. Is this a point to get Nick
Speaker 1: Foles because they work together in Philadelphia, might very well be.
Speaker 1: I just don't think it's a good fit. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's a good fit. Nick Foles with the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: Jaguars could very well be exposed. Jim's gonna hop off
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Speaker 1: Jim Day had to hop off because we have to
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Speaker 1: they have the latest, Doc, I'm I'm interested to see
Speaker 1: what's going on today with your video, because I did
Speaker 1: get a little update during the break. Whether you're blue,
Speaker 1: you're black and white, whatever color you are, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter because you're here and you're here to help us.
Speaker 1: That's right. I think we Uh great, I'm in color,
Speaker 1: in color, you look great, Doc. How's everything going. I'm
Speaker 1: doing great. I'm doing great. I actually were all white
Speaker 1: because just in case I was in black and white
Speaker 1: it looked better. But now I'm in color. So there
Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, there you go, finally figuring it out
Speaker 1: here looking great. Graces been scribbled out here on the
Speaker 1: lower they're trying to get rid of my man. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Doc, maybe we should get some kind of
Speaker 1: diagnosis from you were revolving Greg. He's dealing with the flu.
Speaker 1: Do you have any uh, you know, any advice for
Speaker 1: Greg right now? Uh? You know, Greg needs to take
Speaker 1: a lot of fluids and needs to take four milligrams
Speaker 1: of ibuprof in every six hours. That's that, that's what
Speaker 1: he has to do, and then just suck it up
Speaker 1: and suck it up. There you go, And I see
Speaker 1: Greg in the chat so fully he will take your
Speaker 1: advice because we know that he needs it. Doc. Let's
Speaker 1: move on here. We don't have a lot of injuries
Speaker 1: this weekend specifically, so we'll touch on one revolving around
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Patriots game, but then we'll talk
Speaker 1: about some other NFL players what their prognosis is looking
Speaker 1: like heading into next season in the off season, and
Speaker 1: then we'll get into a little bit of basketball stuff
Speaker 1: as well. The biggest injury on the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the football uh for the Chiefs this weekend, and I'm
Speaker 1: not sure really matters for Damian Williams will probably be
Speaker 1: the lead dog no matter what. But what's going on
Speaker 1: with Spencer were at this point? Is it just they're
Speaker 1: keeping him out because Damian Williams has been so good.
Speaker 1: It seems like he's been out for like the past
Speaker 1: five or six weeks with this hamstring injury? Is his
Speaker 1: Is he healthy enough to return and they're just kind
Speaker 1: of keeping him out right? Now, yeah, I mean this injury.
Speaker 1: Uh specifically, he by January is when we projected him
Speaker 1: to be back healed from this particular injury. Unfortunately, that
Speaker 1: does not put him back up to peak health. It
Speaker 1: puts him up to above average at seventy three percent.
Speaker 1: He's gonna need probably some more time off, which he's
Speaker 1: not going to get theoretically because now they're you know,
Speaker 1: deep into the playoffs, and so you know, this is
Speaker 1: the best he's gonna get. He's at seventy three percent.
Speaker 1: So taking the Spencer where it's you know, it's above average.
Speaker 1: I mean I think a lot of guys would probably
Speaker 1: take him at seventy, but his injury risk is twenty
Speaker 1: three percent. So I mean he's one and a quarter
Speaker 1: almost from an injury risk standpoint. So, you know, one
Speaker 1: way or the other, I think, uh, the fact that
Speaker 1: this is one game, This is not across five games,
Speaker 1: this injury risk and so the point is is that
Speaker 1: if you have Spencer where at seventy at above average
Speaker 1: and is peak for us, you know, he's probably a
Speaker 1: guy you want to get and you want to start here.
Speaker 1: You heard it there from Dr A. You know, naturally, Doc,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of just like a skeptic when I see
Speaker 1: a player kind of get wally pits, so to speak. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm what I think is, you know, this guy's Damian
Speaker 1: Williams is performing so well that you know, maybe they
Speaker 1: didn't need Spencer Weare. But it turns out, you know,
Speaker 1: based on the algorithms from inside injuries, that you know,
Speaker 1: Spen Spencer ware has actually needed this much time, So
Speaker 1: that is worth mentioning. It would be interesting to see
Speaker 1: if he does suit up this weekend. Also, Darryl Williams,
Speaker 1: the backup, has played well for the Chiefs as well,
Speaker 1: so you know they haven't necessarily needed Spencer Weare. That's uh,
Speaker 1: that's the main point here. Dr. I wanted to ask
Speaker 1: you about Ham Newton dealing with this shoulder injury right now,
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't really know what the specific
Speaker 1: so I'll let you get into that. But there was
Speaker 1: an interesting quote from the owner that says Cam Newton
Speaker 1: could basically sit out a season next year. It was
Speaker 1: something along line the lines of if he can sit
Speaker 1: out a year and come back in and be fully
Speaker 1: healthy rather than you know, constantly playing with the risk
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, why wouldn't we do that now. That
Speaker 1: was basically what the owner said about Cam Newton. Is
Speaker 1: this something to the level of the Andrew lux situation too? Like,
Speaker 1: how worried should we be about Cam Newton for the
Speaker 1: for I think you should be very very worried. I
Speaker 1: mean this is we talked about this before this last season.
Speaker 1: Is that when you have a torn rotator cuff and
Speaker 1: a throwing shoulder and a mobile quarterback, um, it really
Speaker 1: really impacts them. Now, this is a rotator cuff injury.
Speaker 1: This is not a laboral tear. Now, there could be
Speaker 1: a laboral tear as well as a rotator cuff. We
Speaker 1: don't know until we actually you know, they're keeping it
Speaker 1: very very hushush, but we do know that the basic
Speaker 1: primary problem is different than Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck had
Speaker 1: a really bad laboral issue going on, and Cam Newton
Speaker 1: has a bad rotator cuffage issue going on. Both of
Speaker 1: them are equally as important. However, Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: am very very skeptical that he will play any more
Speaker 1: than thirty percent of the nineteen season and what he
Speaker 1: may come back earlier, but he will be another year older,
Speaker 1: another year with all of the you know sort of
Speaker 1: of games that he's played. Uh, he really really is
Speaker 1: skeptical in our books and inside injuries. To play the
Speaker 1: full season in nineteen, definitely half the season is something
Speaker 1: that we're predicting that he'll probably miss. He should because
Speaker 1: in order to repair this properly, you do require almost
Speaker 1: a year of rest and healing. Because the rotator cup
Speaker 1: on the throwing shoulder, um, all it takes is one
Speaker 1: little tweak and one little tear. It starts sort of
Speaker 1: the you know, dominoes to fall, and so you do
Speaker 1: need a lot of risks to heal that thing structurally, um,
Speaker 1: especially on the throwing arm. So the owner actually sentiments
Speaker 1: were you know, in line with kind of what they
Speaker 1: were thinking. But the likelihood of that Cam Newton does
Speaker 1: not play a single game and take a single snap
Speaker 1: in nineteen is likely not going to happen because of
Speaker 1: the way he is and the way you know, et cetera.
Speaker 1: So you know, the likelihood is probably half to three
Speaker 1: quarters of the season he may miss. You're listening to
Speaker 1: dr a of inside injuries, and it's great to get
Speaker 1: your perspective on the matter here, Doc, because you know, yesterday,
Speaker 1: Jim Day and myself we're kind of just speculating on
Speaker 1: what could be. But it's it's awesome to hear like
Speaker 1: your professional opinion, um, regarding Cam Newton that you know,
Speaker 1: he could potentially miss half the season and that's something
Speaker 1: that's looking more and more likely. Again, you know, it's
Speaker 1: only January seventeenth. We have, you know, the entire off
Speaker 1: season program and training camps, so on and so forth.
Speaker 1: But you answered one of my questions that I had
Speaker 1: there regarding you know, the rotator cuff versus the labor
Speaker 1: from which you know, Andrew Luck versus Cam Newton, they're
Speaker 1: both equally important, but it does look like Cam Newton
Speaker 1: is going to miss significant time in the twenty nineteen season. Uh, Doc,
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about Will Fuller, And you know,
Speaker 1: the more we hear about the medicine and the technology
Speaker 1: that we have recovering from a c L s, it
Speaker 1: makes you you don't want to you don't feel good
Speaker 1: about a player coming off in a c L. Like ideally,
Speaker 1: if you're deciding between you know, two players, you might
Speaker 1: go in a different direction from a guy who's recovering
Speaker 1: from an a c L injury. But with the medicine
Speaker 1: that we have now, Um, you know, these guys are
Speaker 1: coming back sooner and sooner. Like the timetable for Willford
Speaker 1: that I've seen is anywhere from like six to nine
Speaker 1: months now. He did tear his his a c L
Speaker 1: on October twenty five, that was right after Week eight
Speaker 1: against the Miami Dolphins. We expect him to be fully
Speaker 1: recovered by the time, you know, training camp is opening
Speaker 1: up July August. Come that time, UM, So May seventh
Speaker 1: is when he it looks like he'll be recovered from
Speaker 1: this a c L with some limited rehabilitation. UM, you know,
Speaker 1: he'll probably start to get on the field again, meaning
Speaker 1: in terms of a very very light practice workout, probably
Speaker 1: in the gym and practice facility. Probably we're projecting right
Speaker 1: around the second week of May. Um. Now, from that
Speaker 1: point forward, um, you know, it could take another two
Speaker 1: months for him to completely get back into playing speed.
Speaker 1: And so we're looking at mid July to end of July,
Speaker 1: likely early August, where he had with out any setbacks
Speaker 1: and the surgery went well theoretically, um, and not a
Speaker 1: lot of postoperative issues. We we we do expect him
Speaker 1: to be back in full strength in the beginning of August.
Speaker 1: So you know, um, the fact that it's an a
Speaker 1: c L repair. It's very good because the technology and
Speaker 1: the recovery of a c L now is very very good,
Speaker 1: and so that's what we're projecting. It's probably going to
Speaker 1: be an end of July early August timetable. That's great
Speaker 1: news for Will Fuller owners in keeper or dynasty leagues,
Speaker 1: especially for Deshaun Watson and the rest of the past
Speaker 1: catchers for the Texans, because I've said this before, I
Speaker 1: do think the Texans have one of the best trios
Speaker 1: when these guys are healthy. Kiki QT dealt with a
Speaker 1: lot of hamstring injuries this year, so hopefully he can,
Speaker 1: you know, get over that heading into next year. But
Speaker 1: the combination of DeAndre Hopkins, will Fuller in Kiki QT.
Speaker 1: Just with Hopkins and Fuller on the outside what they're
Speaker 1: able to do and then Kiki in the slot, I
Speaker 1: think that would be one of the best trios in
Speaker 1: the NFL, you know, close to the levels of a
Speaker 1: team like Los Angeles Ran who have Cooks and Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup and Robert Woods. And speaking of Cooper Cup, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to get an update on him as well.
Speaker 1: It is a kind of a similar situation like we
Speaker 1: expecting to be ready come to come July August. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's uh, you know, a complete A c
Speaker 1: L tear and a wide receiver, same position. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very very similar. The only other issue is that
Speaker 1: he had a great two M c L injury on
Speaker 1: the same knee, and so that may delay his recovery
Speaker 1: because of that, because he's had multiple repeated injuries on
Speaker 1: that same knee and other ligaments. Um. But you know,
Speaker 1: the optimal recovery time for an A c L tear
Speaker 1: like this is right around thirty two weeks eight months,
Speaker 1: and then you have to go through a couple of
Speaker 1: months of rebilitation. So yes, probably around the middle to end,
Speaker 1: middle to end of July is what we're looking at
Speaker 1: for Cooper Cup. Speaking with Dr A of Inside Injuries, Doc,
Speaker 1: I want to put the wide receivers behind us here.
Speaker 1: I want to get back to the quarterback position. Just
Speaker 1: talking about Carson Wentz, you know, what was the final
Speaker 1: injury that he was dealing with. I know what was
Speaker 1: something to do with his bag. I feel like he
Speaker 1: you know, he had like some like fractures, micro fractures,
Speaker 1: something going on in his back. Is just something that's
Speaker 1: going to linger a long term or do we expect
Speaker 1: him to be all right for twenty nineteen. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: this is a fractured vertebra um and so um. You know,
Speaker 1: all those blocks on your spine and that protect the
Speaker 1: spinal cord um, there's a fracture of it's probably a
Speaker 1: very minor fracture of the top part of one of
Speaker 1: the vertebra um. But let alone, it's very difficult in
Speaker 1: a young person to really really fracture that vertebra. So
Speaker 1: you know it's it's um. You know it's going to
Speaker 1: require a complete healing, which you know definitely needs at
Speaker 1: least you know, sixteen to eighteen weeks of just you know,
Speaker 1: not doing anything because you put so much stress in
Speaker 1: your back by doing anything in regards to athleticism. So um.
Speaker 1: But if he also had a stress fracture in his
Speaker 1: back in college, and it's kind of if, it's kind
Speaker 1: of not clear if that was also with the vertebra, etcetera.
Speaker 1: But remember, Greg, I've always talked about when a player
Speaker 1: has a one injury on one extremity and it kind
Speaker 1: of causes issues in other parts of the body because
Speaker 1: the mechanics and the forces are thrown off. Well, this
Speaker 1: fracture may have been because of the ability to not
Speaker 1: completely step into throw and he's throwing a lot from
Speaker 1: the heel or the middle of his stance and if
Speaker 1: you put a lot of pressure on your back that way. Now,
Speaker 1: could that have completely been the cause, We don't know,
Speaker 1: but it definitely was something that contributed to it. And
Speaker 1: so this is what we're dealing with next year. This
Speaker 1: thing should be healed if they manage it correctly. However,
Speaker 1: this is a very highly recurrent type of injuries. So
Speaker 1: the likelihood of him playing all sixteen games next year
Speaker 1: is very low. He's likely going to play most likely,
Speaker 1: the you know, injury risk is so one will probably
Speaker 1: pay at least be out one fifth of the season
Speaker 1: next year. I'm gonna be sure to remember that heading
Speaker 1: into next year. You know, the quarterback position is one
Speaker 1: that is extremely deep. More and more ley starting to
Speaker 1: move into that super flex you can play two quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: But that is something that I do want to remember
Speaker 1: because I'm with you know, Carson Wentz a guy who
Speaker 1: likes to get up, get outside the pocket and make place.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he takes big takes big hits. We saw that
Speaker 1: when he tore his a c L in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: last year. It was because he was trying to run
Speaker 1: for a touchdown and die for it and ultimately ended
Speaker 1: up tearing his ah L. But yeah, he is a
Speaker 1: guy who takes a lot of hits. So you hear
Speaker 1: Doc saying that he could be expected to miss one
Speaker 1: fifth of the season next year. It's likely because you know,
Speaker 1: he's trying to make plays with his legs and he's
Speaker 1: taking these big hits. So pay attention. Remember that, um
Speaker 1: next year when we're drafting in fantasy football, Doc, I
Speaker 1: just want to ask you about a few players in
Speaker 1: the NBA. Greg likes to do this thing where he
Speaker 1: selfishly asked you about players on his team. I need
Speaker 1: to do that right now because I have Clint Capella
Speaker 1: on one of my fantasy teams and he's expected to
Speaker 1: missed of next four to six weeks with with an
Speaker 1: injury to his his right thumb. It's some kind of
Speaker 1: ligament damage. Now, did he tear a ligament in his thumb?
Speaker 1: And if so, you know I've seen reports that yes,
Speaker 1: it's four to six weeks, but he could potentially miss
Speaker 1: the rest of the season here, Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: depends how his recovery goes. This is what we've projected
Speaker 1: this as. It's not a tear, it's a it's sort
Speaker 1: of sprain of the one of the thumb ligaments. Uh um.
Speaker 1: You know, probably the there is an ulner collateral ligament
Speaker 1: in his thumb. Uh and you also have a radio
Speaker 1: collateral ligament on the outside of the thumb. So you know,
Speaker 1: we're not sure which ligament this is. But you know,
Speaker 1: if this was a tear, um, he'd be missing a
Speaker 1: lot more time. I think this is a sprain. This
Speaker 1: is a Grade one thumb injury. But they're just being
Speaker 1: extra precautionary. It's on a shooting hand and obviously that
Speaker 1: is very very technical, and so they have to give
Speaker 1: enough time for it to you know, basically heal. We
Speaker 1: are showing three to four weeks optimal recovery time, so
Speaker 1: have you is when we're showing that he'll be he
Speaker 1: should be back if he doesn't have any setbacks, al right,
Speaker 1: So that's right around All Star breaks. So potentially we
Speaker 1: see him post All Star Break there in the second
Speaker 1: half or shortly after hopefully, because what he was doing
Speaker 1: on the court this year, you know, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a big void to fill for fantasy owners because you know,
Speaker 1: double double Machine blocks a lot of shots. It's just
Speaker 1: hard hard to come across centers on fantasy basketball right now,
Speaker 1: So click cappellare rooting for you. We need you back
Speaker 1: as soon as possible. Doc. I think this is one
Speaker 1: of the most interesting injuries that we've dealt with over
Speaker 1: the past couple of years in the NBA. Isaiah Thomas,
Speaker 1: you know, since his time with the Boston Celtics it
Speaker 1: ended kind of abruptly traded to Cleveland dealing with this
Speaker 1: hip injury. It seemed like he was never right. Last
Speaker 1: year he was also traded to l A that seemed
Speaker 1: like he was never and now we haven't seen him
Speaker 1: at all this season. Mind you you know it's January seventeenth,
Speaker 1: where you know, we're two three months into the NBA
Speaker 1: season right now, and we don't even have any updates
Speaker 1: like what is going on with Isaiah Thomas. It seems
Speaker 1: like this injury has just been so cryptic. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: very very hush hush um. You know, we've tried to
Speaker 1: find everything as much as we possibly can. What we
Speaker 1: do know if you do have indirectly, if you do
Speaker 1: have hip surgery. It's a great four injury. And now
Speaker 1: there's a couple of things that it could be. You know,
Speaker 1: one is it Uh, it could be a really really
Speaker 1: really bad laboral tear and the hip. There's a labor
Speaker 1: mom the hip as well, So it could be a
Speaker 1: laboral tear and the hip that um, you know has
Speaker 1: to be repaired. And you know, he'd probably had a
Speaker 1: few setbacks and so this is probably why they decided
Speaker 1: to do surgery, and now he has to Now the
Speaker 1: biggest thing is is that the labor has to heal. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, think of the hip as literally like a
Speaker 1: throwing labor shoulder labor im like Andrew Luck, right, and
Speaker 1: so um, you know this will require at least um,
Speaker 1: uh seven seven months of recovery. Uh most likely were
Speaker 1: we have of him coming back healthy to return on
Speaker 1: August the twenty five. So it's really really um one
Speaker 1: of these types of deals. Um. You know. Uh. The
Speaker 1: other thing that it could be is that sometimes you
Speaker 1: can have a chronic problem of the hip that maybe developmental.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, if there's that would lead to early
Speaker 1: osteoarthritis and they would have to decompress the hip joint
Speaker 1: in order to release it from an athlete's time. We've
Speaker 1: seen that before and athletes as well. Usually it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Usually the guys that are you know, shorter but much
Speaker 1: more athletic, like Isaiah Thomas is. So you know, unfortunately
Speaker 1: that's super hush shush. All we can say is that
Speaker 1: it's great for uh, it's a great for hip. It
Speaker 1: could be a significant label tear um that they have
Speaker 1: to repair August is what we're looking at. So all right,
Speaker 1: so even if we see Isaiah Thomas this year, he
Speaker 1: likely won't be one. I don't know if he plays
Speaker 1: it all. I've heard it there from Doc. Make sure
Speaker 1: you follow at Inside Injuries, that is Dr a Doc.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for coming on. Yeah, I take care
Speaker 1: of whis Greg healthy? Recovery? Okay, Greg in the chat,
Speaker 1: he's watching, he's listening. Get well. Greg. We need you
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Speaker 1: online if possible. If not, regardless, I still want to
Speaker 1: dive into the final couple of rounds of this mock
Speaker 1: draft that we didn't get into yesterday. Were we left
Speaker 1: off at the end of the third round. You know,
Speaker 1: talked a little bit about Damian Williams going to Corey
Speaker 1: at the end of the third round at pick three eleven,
Speaker 1: A J Green rounding out the third round. Jim, I
Speaker 1: was about to jump into the fourth round of this
Speaker 1: mock draft. I'm being told that you are indeed back.
Speaker 1: I'm back, He's back, He's back. Everybody all right. Fourth
Speaker 1: round of this raft started with Kenny Golladay, Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: Interesting here second pick of the fourth round, carry On Johnson,
Speaker 1: who I took we talk talk about earlier in the show.
Speaker 1: Devontae Freeman, Emmanuel Sanders, Julian Edelman, Cooper Cup, Marlon Mack, Derrick,
Speaker 1: Henry Jarvis, Landry Leonard, four Nett, Tarik Cohen, Jim, this
Speaker 1: is a loaded round. This to me, this is where
Speaker 1: the draft really got interesting because you got a lot
Speaker 1: of polarizing names. Like there were names like in this
Speaker 1: fourth round where I really wanted to see, like where
Speaker 1: were these guys gonna go in the draft, and they
Speaker 1: ended up going in the fourth round. Like Pat Mahomes
Speaker 1: lasted until the fourth round. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: just because like we're analysts and we want to wait
Speaker 1: on quarterbacks so on and so forth. But he's not
Speaker 1: gonna last to the fourth round in real drafts. Like
Speaker 1: he's gonna legitimately be a second round pick come next year, Jim,
Speaker 1: And a lot of drafts you will. But you know
Speaker 1: a lot of the real hardcore drafts, he'll still go
Speaker 1: fourth round or later, because you know, it's really got
Speaker 1: to a point where the heavy hitters, the guy that plays,
Speaker 1: guys that play a lot of different leagues against really
Speaker 1: tough competition, it's almost got to a point now where
Speaker 1: it's like they're all playing chicken on who's gonna grab
Speaker 1: a quarterback first, and they keep waiting and keep waiting
Speaker 1: and keep waiting. So we'll still see him drop to
Speaker 1: you know, six and seventh round in some drafts. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I agree with you on most ESPN, Yahoo, you know,
Speaker 1: any type of family or friends league or anything like that,
Speaker 1: you know he has a chance and some of those
Speaker 1: to even go in the first round. Jim, I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you about this. I know you're playing a
Speaker 1: lot of PPR formats. How does that percentage look and
Speaker 1: you play in a lot of leagues admittedly, um, how
Speaker 1: does that percentage look when it comes to like super
Speaker 1: flex in two quarterback leagues? Do you play in a
Speaker 1: lot of those formats? Because given how deep the position is.
Speaker 1: I really like playing in the super flex because you know,
Speaker 1: it forces people to not wait on quarterbacks as much.
Speaker 1: You know, like there's just so like legitimately you could
Speaker 1: go players deep at the quarterback position and find guys
Speaker 1: that you can start weekend and week out. To me,
Speaker 1: that lends itself to all right, we should start transitioning
Speaker 1: more into super flex and two quarterback leagues. No, I agree.
Speaker 1: I played then, you know, i'd probably say, oh, probably
Speaker 1: around my league's were probably uh, either two quarterback or
Speaker 1: super flex leagues, And I agree with it. To see
Speaker 1: when it comes to drafting. For me, anything that takes
Speaker 1: people out of their comfort zone and out of the
Speaker 1: what is considered the norm when it comes to drafting
Speaker 1: is what I like. I don't like cookie cutter drafts.
Speaker 1: I don't like, you know, being able to have a
Speaker 1: cheat sheet and just go down the list and and
Speaker 1: pick up a name and throw it in the draft.
Speaker 1: I hate drafts that are that easy. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I'm dead sent against, you know,
Speaker 1: taking tight ends out as their own position and adding
Speaker 1: them to wide receivers, because then most tight ends won't
Speaker 1: even be drafted and just don't give any extra draft
Speaker 1: value at all. So you know, I want things that
Speaker 1: are gonna make it harder, not easier. Jim, I couldn't
Speaker 1: agree with you more With the tight end thing. I
Speaker 1: see people talk about, you know, making the tight end
Speaker 1: position a wide receiver slash tight end flex. Guys, we
Speaker 1: have a flex position for a reason. Like the flex
Speaker 1: is there so that you know, you can start your
Speaker 1: wide receiver running back tight end like whatever additional player
Speaker 1: that you have. I mean, there have been teams that
Speaker 1: have successfully run the two tight end system in fantasy
Speaker 1: hell Mike Cardano, uh, you know here on the Fantasy
Speaker 1: Sports Network, he used to have three tight ends on
Speaker 1: his team. Now I wouldn't you know, I wouldn't condone
Speaker 1: doing that, But Jim taking taking the tight end position
Speaker 1: and making it wide receiver slash tight end is just
Speaker 1: more of the same with like and you know, I
Speaker 1: probably sound older than I am right now. It's very like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're giving in because oh, it's too hard
Speaker 1: on you know, come on, we don't want to start
Speaker 1: a tight end. You know, we gotta find ways to
Speaker 1: make things easier. No, shut the hell up, dude, Like
Speaker 1: we're gonna play with the tight end fantasy, Like if
Speaker 1: you turn the tight end into like wide receiver slash
Speaker 1: tight end, that is s a w FT soft Jim. Okay,
Speaker 1: I had to spell that out in my head as
Speaker 1: you would say that. Um. Yeah, no, I I agree. Again,
Speaker 1: I don't want to make an easier I want to
Speaker 1: make it harder. Um. And that's you know, if you've
Speaker 1: ever played in the league that I've started, outside of
Speaker 1: the best ball type things that we threw together this
Speaker 1: year on a rush, um, and any other league I've
Speaker 1: ever started, it's definitely not the norm um, you know.
Speaker 1: And I try to push it that way just because, Look,
Speaker 1: the draft is the most fun part of doing this
Speaker 1: to me anyway, And I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: feel the same because a lot of people tell me that. So,
Speaker 1: why do you want to do drafts that are all
Speaker 1: just cookie cutter drafts? Okay, this guy might be in
Speaker 1: front of that guy this draft and then behind him
Speaker 1: in the next day. Yeah, I got it. But you know,
Speaker 1: most of the rounds look pretty damn identical. Why do
Speaker 1: you want to do that. Let's have some fun, mix
Speaker 1: it up, change it up a little bit, and you know,
Speaker 1: make different positions more relevant. Yeah, and it's up to
Speaker 1: fantasy owners to try and find the next George Kittle,
Speaker 1: you know, try and find the next breakout tight end.
Speaker 1: I know, like there are few and far between, but
Speaker 1: that's what makes it so fun. Like for people who
Speaker 1: drafted George Kittle in the middle rounds this year and
Speaker 1: he ended up breaking out, Like, there's not a much
Speaker 1: better feeling than that, especially at the tight end position.
Speaker 1: You know, finding that guy in the middle rounds that
Speaker 1: breaks out. I mean, that's what makes this so fun
Speaker 1: and so challenging, you know, the test of trying to
Speaker 1: find that. So I don't agree with just taking it,
Speaker 1: you know, taking out the tight end position, making it
Speaker 1: a wide receiver slash tight end. You know, you want
Speaker 1: to give more value to the tight end. I know
Speaker 1: that there are some high stakes leagues that offer one
Speaker 1: and a half points per per reception for tight ends.
Speaker 1: You know, if that's something that you want to look into,
Speaker 1: try and do something like that, Jim, I thought also
Speaker 1: in this fourth round, I wanted to see where Devantay
Speaker 1: Freeman went. He ends up going in the fourth round. No,
Speaker 1: just kind of like, what's your early diagnosis here on
Speaker 1: the Falcons running back situation? I personally don't expect Tevin
Speaker 1: Coleman to be back, But edo Smith showed a little
Speaker 1: bit of something this year. Maybe he can be that
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman that that one be running back for the
Speaker 1: Falcons next year. How are you gonna feel about Devantay Freeman?
Speaker 1: Like is the fourth round? Does that sound like fair
Speaker 1: value for him? Yeah? If he comes back fully healthy,
Speaker 1: that's absolutely fair value for him. Because I don't expect
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman to be back. He'll want too much money.
Speaker 1: He still wants a chance and starting even though he
Speaker 1: didn't show anything year and that he could, He's still
Speaker 1: gonna want that chance and want to get paid like it. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a hard time getting those kind of numbers.
Speaker 1: You know, Smith, I don't know if he's really there,
Speaker 1: you know number two that could fill that Tevin Coleman
Speaker 1: role role because we haven't really seen him involved in
Speaker 1: the passing game as much, and you know, for that
Speaker 1: role you need somebody who's gonna catch some passes. So
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they go out and grab
Speaker 1: somebody else. I still see Smith is more of a
Speaker 1: backup justin Freeman on that you know, short yardage stuff
Speaker 1: on goal line work, things more of that nature than him,
Speaker 1: you know, being involved in heavily in the passing game.
Speaker 1: I know Corey the fantasy executive has thrown out the
Speaker 1: possibility of t J. Yelled In landing there. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like the pass catching running back t J. Yelled
Speaker 1: in a free agent. So I think that certainly makes
Speaker 1: sense based on what Jim Day is saying here the
Speaker 1: fifth round of this draft, Jim starts with alshon Jeffrey,
Speaker 1: Mike Williams, Are you interesting there, Darius Guice, Tyler Boyd, Sony, Michelle,
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett, Chris Carson, Kenyan Drake, DJ Moore, Chris Godwin,
Speaker 1: Derrick McKinnon, Allen Robinson, and no, Kenyan Drake did not
Speaker 1: go to you boy, Chris Venture. He actually went one
Speaker 1: pick before Chris Venture got sniped there. But Mike Williams,
Speaker 1: I know you were a big, big advocate. You were
Speaker 1: a big proponent of Mike Williams. And you know, after
Speaker 1: that game that we saw on Thursday night football against
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I put out a poll asking you know,
Speaker 1: where do you think Mike Williams is gonna get drafted
Speaker 1: next year? And I think I had the fourth and
Speaker 1: fifth in the sixth round as options, and then like
Speaker 1: another option is like later than that. But here you
Speaker 1: see the early fifth round. I think that's gonna make sense.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a guy that people are
Speaker 1: buying in on, has top twenty five wide receiver potential.
Speaker 1: I don't expect Tyroll Williams will be back with this team.
Speaker 1: Will We'll see what happens there. He's a free agent.
Speaker 1: But second pick of the fifth round. Is this too
Speaker 1: early for Mike Williams? Jim, Uh, it might be a
Speaker 1: little early, but you know it. Look, it really comes
Speaker 1: down to if you really want him on your team,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay for him, because his value
Speaker 1: definitely is gonna rise. But he didn't have the most
Speaker 1: consistent years. I'm not gonna argue that didn't have the
Speaker 1: year that I thought he would. I definitely thought he'd
Speaker 1: be more heavily involved each and every week, but he
Speaker 1: still put up decent numbers, scored a bunch of touchdowns.
Speaker 1: That's definitely not gonna change and probably should increase. I
Speaker 1: do not think Tyrolle Williams is back. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be able to command a big money spot with
Speaker 1: somebody else that they won't pay him, so I don't
Speaker 1: think he'll be back. So I definitely think that helps Williams. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, but in this round at that point, you know,
Speaker 1: I just don't know. You know, there were a couple
Speaker 1: other guys on the board that I probably would have
Speaker 1: taken over him at that point. Um, you know, and
Speaker 1: so Chris Godwin, Chris Godwin, I like Chris Codlin. But man,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I get this feeling that Sean Jackson
Speaker 1: is going to be back and that's gonna hurt Chris Godwin. Um,
Speaker 1: I keeps saying in my head, I can't get past it.
Speaker 1: I know all the reasons why he wants to get out.
Speaker 1: I just think arians is gonna try and pull him
Speaker 1: back in. Um. But you know, it's like I probably
Speaker 1: would have went with Tyler Boyd there, just because he
Speaker 1: did have that big step up year this year. If
Speaker 1: A G. Green is back next year, um again fully healthy,
Speaker 1: I think board is in for another good year. Tyler
Speaker 1: Lockett is another guy I think I would take over him. Definitely,
Speaker 1: a couple of these running backs so to me, maybe
Speaker 1: around too early, I expect more of a you know,
Speaker 1: average draft position somewhere in the sixth round for Williams
Speaker 1: because at the most it's still speculation that he could
Speaker 1: still provide the kind of point you want to see
Speaker 1: out of a fifth round pick as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 1: because it really guy has to come down to Philip
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers trusting you more and throwing him more of
Speaker 1: those balls. Jim Darius Guys and Derrek McKinnon two running
Speaker 1: backs here coming off torn a c l s respectively. Uh,
Speaker 1: and you know Darry Sky's we got an update randomly
Speaker 1: in December that you know, he dealt with an infection
Speaker 1: that they were kind of like worried about, you know,
Speaker 1: his his prospects for next year. But now I'm seeing
Speaker 1: like things going a little bit more smoothly. I think
Speaker 1: like he's returned to like running and stuff. I think
Speaker 1: he's even taking a field already. So Darius Guys and
Speaker 1: Jerk McKinnon two interesting names, you know, Jerk McKinnon too.
Speaker 1: I think the forty Niners are gonna have a good
Speaker 1: problem on their hand. And you know, fantasy we might
Speaker 1: not love it. I could see a scenario where both
Speaker 1: of these guys both Jack McKinnon and Matt Breeda for
Speaker 1: the forty Niners being fantasy viable. We've seen it with
Speaker 1: Kyle Sannahan in the past, right, we were just talking
Speaker 1: about Freeman and Tevin Coleman together. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: have something similar here with Matt Breeda and Jack McKinnon. Oh. Absolutely. Look,
Speaker 1: going into this season, everybody was so high on McKinnon
Speaker 1: because he was supposed to be the big, you know,
Speaker 1: share guy in San Francisco. I didn't see it just
Speaker 1: because he's not built that way. He is definitely you know,
Speaker 1: a one a type of guy where he's pass catching
Speaker 1: back mostly and that's what you're gonna see. And don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, and Kyle Shanahan offense, you would love
Speaker 1: to have that pass catching back. Um Breeda showed enough
Speaker 1: that he's gonna still get early down work, a lot
Speaker 1: of goal line work. So for McKinnon, it's really gonna
Speaker 1: become that, you know, that mainstake guy where he's you know,
Speaker 1: getting six five six targets a game, uh and putting
Speaker 1: up numbers that way. And you know, if he gets
Speaker 1: fully healthy, then he's gonna do well in that offense.
Speaker 1: In that way. I can see him easily catching seventy
Speaker 1: balls in that offense because we know that Shanahan loves
Speaker 1: to get it to his running backs out of out
Speaker 1: of the backfield. So, uh, don't you know both of
Speaker 1: those picks are are good picks in the fifth. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna last till the fifth once we
Speaker 1: get into real drafting season, especially as we start to
Speaker 1: get more updates on where they are health wise. YEF,
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Speaker 1: nineteen for a ten percent discount. Jim the final round here,
Speaker 1: the sixth round that we did mark Ingram, Calvin Ridley,
Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin, Jordan Howard, James White, James Washington, Courtland Sutton,
Speaker 1: Will Fuller, Andrew Luck, Corey Davis, Christian Kirk, and Robbie Anderson. Jim,
Speaker 1: I know a player that you were targeting in this
Speaker 1: round and he went one pick before you was James Washington.
Speaker 1: And look a lot gonna happen between now and next year.
Speaker 1: But when Antonio Brown is traded, not if, because at
Speaker 1: this point I do think he's gonna get traded. James
Speaker 1: Washington is gonna be one of these guys that shoot
Speaker 1: up draft boards like You're not gonna be able to
Speaker 1: get him in the sixth round We've seen for years now, Jim,
Speaker 1: that the Steelers have been able to develop wide receivers.
Speaker 1: They just know how to draft them. Uh, they developed
Speaker 1: them well, I mean going back to the days of
Speaker 1: like Hines Wards, Antonio Holmes, Mike Wallace. Remember they drafted
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders, Antonio Brown, they drafted Juju Mark Tavis Bryant
Speaker 1: was fine when he was in Pittsburgh. James Washington could
Speaker 1: be the next man up, you know, in to fill
Speaker 1: that role. If Antonio Brown is gone, Juju moves up,
Speaker 1: he's the wide receiver. One. That means James Washington is
Speaker 1: the wide receiver too. I think you'll end up going
Speaker 1: higher than the sixth round. Yeah, at this point, it's
Speaker 1: all speculation, you know, That's what we're all doing here.
Speaker 1: So that's fine, um, And you're right if he gets
Speaker 1: into that number two roll. Look, he had a great preseason,
Speaker 1: came into the season with some high expectations, didn't quite
Speaker 1: meet up to that. The team like basically benched him,
Speaker 1: gave him some extra practice off to the side, worked
Speaker 1: hard with him for a couple of weeks, and they
Speaker 1: say that he came out of that making some you know,
Speaker 1: some more smart moves and starting to learn the offense
Speaker 1: a little better, so that's gonna be a big part
Speaker 1: of it. If he continues on that trend, then he
Speaker 1: will be the number two. And like you said that,
Speaker 1: they've consistently made you know, top wide receivers in this offense,
Speaker 1: no matter who it is. And again same thing with
Speaker 1: the running backs. His system just promotes good offense and
Speaker 1: these guys put up good points. So, you know, in
Speaker 1: in the sixth round at this point, I would easily
Speaker 1: take in James Washington if he was there, just on
Speaker 1: the speculation at all. But if it, you know, continues,
Speaker 1: and as we start to get more information on Brown
Speaker 1: and what's gonna happen there, You're right, I think he
Speaker 1: moves up a little. Do I think he moves up
Speaker 1: into like the fourth round, though I don't think he
Speaker 1: does that. I think the fifth round would be you know,
Speaker 1: probably the tops he's gonna see unless something major happens.
Speaker 1: Two other wide re siies have just caught my either.
Speaker 1: I thought we were interesting in this round. Will Fuller
Speaker 1: you heard from Dr earlier on in the show that
Speaker 1: he does expect will Floor to be healthy come training camp.
Speaker 1: And then Christian Kirk, I'm gonna be the slot wide receiver.
Speaker 1: We'll see Larry Fitzgerald comes back for the Cardinals. But
Speaker 1: we do know that dating back to his days at college,
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury works wonders with slot wide receivers. Jim wh
Speaker 1: only got about a minute left. What's on tap for
Speaker 1: the rest of your Thursday, you know, outside of the
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football friendz a. Uh got a little thirsty Thursday
Speaker 1: thing going on tonight or nothing special? Uh No, Actually,
Speaker 1: I got a couple of projects I'm working on and
Speaker 1: I need to get finished in, including a project that
Speaker 1: we're gonna be working on with Scott Angle starting next
Speaker 1: week for the Frenzy show. So you know, got got
Speaker 1: a lot of that to do. I got more baseball
Speaker 1: reading to do, so it'll be a lot of reading today.
Speaker 1: Jim Day's got a lot to do. He's working on
Speaker 1: projects with Scott Angle. Jim God, bless your soul working
Speaker 1: with Scott Angle. But he's also reading the Black Book
Speaker 1: and getting ready for fantasy baseball season. We'll have a
Speaker 1: little bit of that coming up for you next week.
Speaker 1: I want to thank Jim Day. Fantasy task coming up next,
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