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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we

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Speaker 1: rolled through the Tuesday edition of the program. I am

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Speaker 1: back home in Nashville, Tennessee. Appreciate again all the great

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Speaker 1: hospitality showed to me out in Phoenix. Home here. Buck

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Speaker 1: is in the South Pacific on his honeymoon, and we

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Speaker 1: have got a bevy of stories to dive into the

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Speaker 1: Brookings Institute. We finally got a response from the Brookings Institute,

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Speaker 1: which named this show in conjunction with Russia Limbaugh the

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Speaker 1: number three purveyor of misinformation in all of political talk.

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Speaker 1: We will discuss that we got a missile that was

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Speaker 1: fired in Michigan at an object we still can identify,

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Speaker 1: and we missed. Well. I am blown away by this.

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Speaker 1: We took one of our fighter jets up to shoot

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Speaker 1: down an unidentified flying object over Lake Huron in Michigan,

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Speaker 1: and we missed. Lucas Tomlinson with that report, meaning there

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Speaker 1: was just a missile flying around that landed somewhere in

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Speaker 1: Lake Huron. Can you imagine if you had been out

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Speaker 1: know if Lake Huron's totally frozen over right now to

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Speaker 1: where I got engaged by the way up at Mackinaw Island,

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Speaker 1: which is fabulous. How do we miss we missed? We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about it. Nicky Haley has announced her run officially

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Speaker 1: for president, joining Donald Trump. And is it John Bolton?

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Speaker 1: I can't even remember who else announced. I think it

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Speaker 1: was John Bolton. We'll discuss Nicky Haley, the impact. How

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Speaker 1: do we see it from there? The View aka the

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Speaker 1: dumbest show in all of television, had a whale of

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Speaker 1: a take on black quarterbacks in the wake of the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and in LA. While it didn't come down

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Speaker 1: very much, in January, it's at six point four percent

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Speaker 1: under Biden. In December it was six point five percent,

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Speaker 1: so it narrowly ticked down. This suggests that inflation is

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Speaker 1: going to be very stubborn and may well persist throughout

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Speaker 1: much of twenty twenty three. This is particularly galling for

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Speaker 1: many of you out there who are dealing with six

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Speaker 1: point four percent inflation and the average wage has not

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Speaker 1: increased anywhere near that level. So we will break all

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Speaker 1: of that down and more. We are scheduled to be

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Speaker 1: joined by Sarah Huckabe Sanders, Governor of Arkansas, and Vivek

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Speaker 1: Ramaswamy Woke, Inc. Author he is contemplating a run for president.

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Speaker 1: All of that coming in your direction, but I wanted

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Speaker 1: to start with the Brookings Institute. I don't know a

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Speaker 1: ton about the Brookings Institute. I haven't spent a lot

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Speaker 1: of time focused on them because I have a life,

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Speaker 1: and I don't spend very much time focused on think

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Speaker 1: tanks in general, because by and large, think tanks are

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Speaker 1: just funded by rich people who want their ideas to

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Speaker 1: get out there and otherwise are not willing to do

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Speaker 1: the work themselves. That's my general proposition on think tanks.

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Speaker 1: So what is really intriguing, in my opinion, associated with

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Speaker 1: this is the New York Times and the Brooking Institute

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Speaker 1: that most misinformed their audience, and they put this on

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Speaker 1: the front page of the Friday New York Times Business

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Speaker 1: And for all of you out there, you may have

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Speaker 1: heard me talking about this. I believe on Friday, I said, okay, buck,

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Speaker 1: and I endeavor every single day to be as honest

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Speaker 1: and transparent with you as we can, and the difference

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Speaker 1: obviously between facts and opinions. But opinions are only as

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Speaker 1: good as the facts upon which they are based. So

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Speaker 1: if you get a fact wrong, it undercuts your own

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Speaker 1: opinion because it's built on a foundation of inaccuracy. That's

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Speaker 1: a very basic explanation for what we try to do.

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Speaker 1: And so when I saw this story, it did not

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Speaker 1: only mention the Clay and Buck show, it also mentioned

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Speaker 1: the Russia Limboss Show, And obviously Russia has been dead

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Speaker 1: for almost two years now, and that is a long

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Speaker 1: time for a study to be looking at both Russia

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Speaker 1: Limboss Show and our show, not to mention that Rush

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Speaker 1: new shows. As you guys well know, they played Best

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Speaker 1: of Russia Limbaugh for months until Buck and I came

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Speaker 1: And my second thought, because that's a long time frame,

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Speaker 1: So that's a strange standard. That means, for instance, for

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Speaker 1: I want to know what you have classified as misinformation.

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Speaker 1: What is out there Brookings Institute, that you believe we

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Speaker 1: you that email yesterday. Brookings Institute finally got back to

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Speaker 1: buck up there it's called us top Purveyors of Misinformation,

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Speaker 1: and we said, you can come on any day this week.

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Speaker 1: You can speak to our audience, biggest radio audience in

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Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to directly confront us right in

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Speaker 1: That's misinformation, they said, and I quote they are not

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Speaker 1: Right we get attacked on this program for spreading misinformation,

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Speaker 1: our response is to immediately say, Okay, you made this attack,

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Speaker 1: you made this criticism. You are welcome to come on

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Speaker 1: the quote misinformation that they found from over a year ago.

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Speaker 1: this unholy alliance between the Brookings Institute and the New

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Speaker 1: us from being widely distributed on podcast. Listen to the

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Speaker 1: paragraph that I'm going to read you from the New

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Speaker 1: York Times article. The findings underscore the vital role Apple,

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Speaker 1: are disinformation peddlers, according to The New York Times. Now

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Speaker 1: what does that mean. What's a disinformation peddler? What if

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Speaker 1: we actually said that's untrue? Well, the Brookings Institute won't

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Speaker 1: New York Times and explain why and how we are

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Speaker 1: disinformation peddlers and what his goal was when he said Apple,

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Speaker 1: it an aim at these disinformation peddlers. Also said that

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Speaker 1: Happy Valentine's Day to everybody out there. As I said

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Speaker 1: by Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the Governor of the Great State

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Speaker 1: Governor Sanders, thank you for the time. She is a

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Speaker 1: true saint, that's for sure. Thank you for the time.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations belatedly on the big win in Arkansas, and Bob

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Speaker 1: and Saint Louis is gonna be really excited when you're

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Speaker 1: a Trump's VP. Thanks so much, and tell him go chief,

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Speaker 1: go chiefs. Indeed, I think I think she's great. I

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Speaker 1: think that Patrick Mahomes, by the way, for the record,

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Speaker 1: is going to end up with five Super Bowls before

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Speaker 1: all is said and done. We got a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: You can go check the transcript on here as we

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Speaker 1: roll through the program if you want to weigh in

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Speaker 1: major way in terms of changing what our country is

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Speaker 1: doing on a day to day basis. Tunnel of the Towers,

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Speaker 1: they did an absolutely phenomenal job of responding to one

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Speaker 1: they're continuing to fight the battle to make a big difference.

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Speaker 1: They don't ever want to forget to sacrifices. America's heroes

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Speaker 1: Glay Travis and Buck Sexton Welcome back in Glay Travis

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. It is Valentine's Day. I hope I

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Speaker 1: mentioned that off the top. If I didn't, and you're

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Speaker 1: out there driving around right now and you're like, uh oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's Valentine Day. And if you don't have a restaurant

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Speaker 1: reservation and you are trying to go in today and

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Speaker 1: just walk up to the front of the restaurant and say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a table for two, your wife or girlfriend is going

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Speaker 1: to know that you didn't even care about her enough

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Speaker 1: to make a dinner reservation, because you are probably not

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Speaker 1: going to be able to get seated, or you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to sit at the bar or a bar table,

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Speaker 1: or you're gonna be driving around the multiple restaurants trying

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Speaker 1: to get in. It's not a good spot to be in.

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Speaker 1: Just telling you so it is Valentine's Day. If that

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Speaker 1: suddenly has snuck up on you, as I bet it

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Speaker 1: has to tens of thousands of men out there right

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Speaker 1: now who suddenly just thought, oh, yep, it's Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 1: It's here again, a day when only things can go wrong.

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Speaker 1: Think about that for a minute. Is there any other

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Speaker 1: holiday where you get less credit and have more risk

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Speaker 1: than Valentine's Day? If you do pull off a great

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, it's just kind of expected. If you screw

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Speaker 1: it up, it's all on you. And I would argue

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Speaker 1: it's the only holiday where men have all of the

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Speaker 1: onus on them and women have almost none. You want

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Speaker 1: to talk about sexism in America today, how is it

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Speaker 1: that we have a holiday we're basically men have to

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Speaker 1: let women know how much we like them. Personally. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: go over that well. But I consider my wife to

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Speaker 1: be fortunate because she gets to live with me every day.

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Speaker 1: That's what I always tell her. Valentine's Day. Every day

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Speaker 1: is Valentine's Day for you because you get to live

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Speaker 1: with me, And really, is there anything better in the

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Speaker 1: world than that gift that I give to you every

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Speaker 1: single day? But think about it now. I did learn

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Speaker 1: when I became when I became a dad, that when

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Speaker 1: your kids are young, Mother's Day is maybe more fraught

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Speaker 1: with peril than Valentine's Day, because then not only are

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Speaker 1: you responsible for Mother's Day, you're also responsible for your

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Speaker 1: little kids being thankful for their mother before they even

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Speaker 1: can be responsible for being thankful for their mother. My

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Speaker 1: kids have no idea how much time I've spent covering

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Speaker 1: for their asses on Mother's Day for like the last

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Speaker 1: fifteen years. I don't know at what age they become

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Speaker 1: responsible for themselves and they're on the hook for Mother's Day.

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Speaker 1: So you can maybe argue Mother's Day when I'm arguing here,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's true Valentine's Day. Certainly, Mother's Day

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Speaker 1: to a certain extent, way more pressure on men than women.

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Speaker 1: And Father's Day. I mean, you only know what Father's

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Speaker 1: Day is, just like a random day in June. They

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Speaker 1: usually put the US open golf tournament around it. Nobody

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Speaker 1: really fetishized his Father's Day. Right, Mother's Day, huge deal,

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Speaker 1: Father's Day whatever. You know, It's like summer will be

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Speaker 1: on vacation somewhere. We're gonna go out to the pool.

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Speaker 1: Here's the tie. Don't hang yourself with it. We love you.

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Speaker 1: I mean really, that's kind of you know, Father's Day

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Speaker 1: in general, Valentine's Day, this is just a relationship Minefield,

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Speaker 1: Why are you going to be broken up today? You

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Speaker 1: don't even know why. You thought the relationship was going well.

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Speaker 1: Next day, you know, you pull out the Outback Steakhouse

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Speaker 1: gift card after you made her wait for the blooming

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Speaker 1: onion for an hour and a half. That relationships over.

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Speaker 1: You didn't make a reservation, you took her to Outback

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Speaker 1: and you paid with a gift card. You're not You're

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Speaker 1: not marriage material. She's done with you. Just a PSA

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Speaker 1: big shift there. Brookings's tute. By the way, if you

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Speaker 1: hate the Brookings Institute, and I now hate the Brookings Institute,

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Speaker 1: they are my auntie. Valentine's Day gift, go subscribe to

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Speaker 1: our podcast right now. And if you've got like kids

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Speaker 1: or grandkids, go subscribe to our podcast from their phones.

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Speaker 1: If you can figure out how to do it and

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Speaker 1: say go listen to these guys, you're idiots, They'll make

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Speaker 1: you smarter. Be a good move. Valentine's Day also the

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Speaker 1: day that Nicki Haley has decided to tell America that

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Speaker 1: she loves us all and that she is the savior

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four. I believe we have a audio

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Speaker 1: here of Nicky Hayley's official video announcement that she is

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Speaker 1: running for president. She said she would never run against

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, so much for that. Here is Nicky Haley,

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Speaker 1: the first major I would say candidate to go head

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Speaker 1: to head with Donald Trump, just announced this morning. Listen.

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Speaker 1: It's time for a new generation of leadership to rediscover

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Speaker 1: fiscal responsibility, secure our border, and strengthen our country, our pride,

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Speaker 1: and our purple. Some people look at America and see vulnerability.

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Speaker 1: The socialist left sees an opportunity to rewrite history China

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Speaker 1: and Russia or on the March. They all think we

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Speaker 1: can be bullied kicked around. You should know this about me.

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Speaker 1: I don't put up with bullies, and when you kick back,

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Speaker 1: it hurts them more. If you're wearing heels, I'm Nicki

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Speaker 1: Haley and I'm running for president? Does it hurt more

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Speaker 1: if you get kicked with heels? A boot would hurt?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure she's gonna lose that line a lot.

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Speaker 1: Use that line a lot. I think it depends on

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Speaker 1: the heel. How much of a pointy teller are we

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Speaker 1: talking about? Who are you kicking? Man? Getting kicked in

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Speaker 1: the groin? That really hurts woman getting kicked in the

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Speaker 1: groin not as much. That's her big signature takeaway line,

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Speaker 1: She's gonna kick you with her heels. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just don't see the Nicky Haley play here. Did

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Speaker 1: we invite her on the show yet? I think I

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Speaker 1: said we should invite her on the show. I like her.

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Speaker 1: She seems like a very likable person. South Carolina. I

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Speaker 1: think Tim Scott is gonna run from South Carolina. And

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Speaker 1: we now know Nicky Haley is gonna run. Here's who

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Speaker 1: I think is gonna be in the race. Trump we

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Speaker 1: know is in the race, DeSantis is in the race.

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Speaker 1: Pence is gonna run, Nicky Haley is now in. Tim

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Speaker 1: Scott is gonna run, Mike Pompeo is gonna run. So

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Speaker 1: I think those six people are eventually going to find

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Speaker 1: them themselves in the primary, and then there'll be a

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Speaker 1: lot of other people. We're gonna talk with Vivic Ramaswamy.

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Speaker 1: He's on a two thirty. He said he may run

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Speaker 1: for president. There'll be a lot of people. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Vivic Ramiswammy thinks that he's gonna win the presidency,

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Speaker 1: but there are a lot of things that I think

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Speaker 1: he could make a strong argument about. There are a

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Speaker 1: lot of people who run for president not thinking that

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Speaker 1: they really have any definite chance, but that, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe it could make sense going forward. They got a

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Speaker 1: small chance outside edge, but in larger context, they get

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Speaker 1: their stories out there, they increase the overall brand awareness

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Speaker 1: for them. There's really no downside to running for president.

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Speaker 1: Very few people run for president and emerge worse off.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like Nicky Hayley is going to be

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Speaker 1: running as potentially a VP candidate. I just do. And

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way about Tim Scott. I met

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Speaker 1: Tim Scott on Saturday. We've had him on the show before.

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Speaker 1: South Carolina Senator. Impressive guy. He was out in Phoenix

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Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl. Talk to him for a little while.

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Speaker 1: I don't think look you grabbed this transcript, you save it.

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Speaker 1: We're obviously here on Valentine's Day in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: First votes don't happen until January, eleven months from now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody has a chance in hell of

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Speaker 1: being nominated as a Republican except for Donald Trump and

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Speaker 1: Rond Santis. We're eleven months out from Iowa. I understand

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Speaker 1: that there are going to be a lot of people

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Speaker 1: throw themselves into this race. There will be ebbs and flows.

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Speaker 1: I will be stunned beyond belief if there is a

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Speaker 1: Republican nominee and it is someone other than Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: or Ron De Santis. I think this is a two

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Speaker 1: man race, and so I'm already looking at everybody else

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Speaker 1: who is entering the race and thinking, hey, do they

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Speaker 1: make sense as a vice presidential candidate? Who are the

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Speaker 1: ideal vice presidential candidates? I think, by the way, Glenn

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Speaker 1: Junkin also may run, so that would put him in

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Speaker 1: as a seventh candidate, major candidate, we should say, because

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Speaker 1: didn't Michael Bolton run or what John Bolton whatever, that

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Speaker 1: guy's name is, the guy with a mustache. I think

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Speaker 1: he's effectively running for president. I think I would get

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Speaker 1: more votes than him. He has a better mustache than me.

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Speaker 1: I would have a better president. She'll chance than him.

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Speaker 1: His credit mustache is pretty fantastic. So I think Michael

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Speaker 1: Bolton slash John Bolton is in, but I'm not really

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Speaker 1: counting him as a major candidate. I'm already looking ahead

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Speaker 1: and thinking, Okay, Trump ORTA. Scantis is going to be

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Speaker 1: the nominee. Who is the best VP? And to me,

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Speaker 1: the best VP has to come from a state, given

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Speaker 1: how competitive things are right now, where you could potentially

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Speaker 1: deliver that state on the national ticket. Look, people can

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Speaker 1: sit around all day and tell you that we don't

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Speaker 1: know how things are gonna go. You tell me right now, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire, and Arizona Nevada. You tell me who wins

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Speaker 1: those six states will know who the president is the

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Speaker 1: other forty four. I'm not even focused on those six

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Speaker 1: states that I just ran through. Do any of them

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Speaker 1: have republican super popular official who could bring that state

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Speaker 1: with them? Maybe Snounu could in New Hampshire, especially if

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Speaker 1: and by the way, I'm presuming Biden as the nominee

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Speaker 1: for the Democrats, especially if people in the Granite State

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Speaker 1: are fired up about Democrats saying they're not going to

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Speaker 1: use New Hampshire as the first primary anymore because they're

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Speaker 1: going to start in South Carolina. Maybe John Sunu could

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Speaker 1: flip New Hampshire. I think that Brian Kemp could deliver Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Could Glenn Junkin deliver Virginia. If he could, then he

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Speaker 1: should be on every ticket. He should be the vice

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Speaker 1: president for Trump or de Santist period. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he could for presidential politics. I feel very good

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Speaker 1: that Brian Kemp would make Georgia not a competitive state.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Sonoonu might do it in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 1: No one that I can think of in Pennsylvania. Maybe

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Speaker 1: our guy Ron Johnson could help deliver Wisconsin to the Republicans.

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Speaker 1: I love Ron Johnson. I don't know if he'd want

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Speaker 1: to be vice president. He probably feels like he has

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Speaker 1: more control of his Senate career, but he potentially could

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Speaker 1: make a play in a big way in Wisconsin. Nevada,

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Speaker 1: I don't really see anything. I know we just elected

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Speaker 1: Lombardo as the Republican governor. There was a very tight race.

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Speaker 1: If he could deliver Nevada, I think you have to

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Speaker 1: consider him on the ticket Arizona. You guys know that

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Speaker 1: I love Nicky Haley. Could Nicky Haley deliver Arizona. Well,

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Speaker 1: she didn't win the governor's race, and we can get

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Speaker 1: into all that. I love her as a candidate, but

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Speaker 1: now who delivers the ticket. So to me, I look

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Speaker 1: at Nicky Haley and say, I like you. I like

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Speaker 1: your story, but South Carolina is voting red already. Same way,

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Speaker 1: by the way I feel about about Tim Scott. If

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Speaker 1: and you are running for president and I don't believe

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Speaker 1: you're going to be the nominee because you are not

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Speaker 1: Rhonda Santis or Donald Trump, then effectively you are competing

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Speaker 1: to be vice president. And if you're competing to be

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Speaker 1: vice president, if I was the Santis or I was Trump,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at New Hampshire, I'm looking at Pennsylvania, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at Wisconsin, I'm looking at Georgia, I'm looking at Nevada,

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Speaker 1: and I'm looking at Arizona, and I'm saying, is there

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Speaker 1: someone in any of those states that could deliver that

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Speaker 1: state to Republicans, and the one that I feel almost

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent confident of, Brian Kemp in Georgia. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they'd ever doubled down and go with,

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Speaker 1: for instance, Rhonda Santis and Brian Kemp to southern governor

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Speaker 1: red state guys, I think that that would be a

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Speaker 1: landslide win election. Trump is certainly not going to pick

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Speaker 1: Brian Kemp. I don't know who on the table there

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Speaker 1: of all those other states that Trump could pair with

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Speaker 1: that would make sense in terms of, hey, we're delivering

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Speaker 1: a brand new state. But that's where I think you

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Speaker 1: have to think strategically as all of these announcements come out.

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Speaker 1: We've got an invite to Nicky Haley. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: that is how I would assess everything with the Nicky

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Speaker 1: to join us. Do you feel like we are winning

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Speaker 1: the battle against wokeism or do you feel like the

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Speaker 1: woke virus is still spreading. I think it is still spreading,

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Speaker 1: but it has reached a steady state. So we went

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Speaker 1: through a couple of years where it was just spiking.

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Speaker 1: Now it feels like we've actually stopped its momentum. But

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Speaker 1: we've just reached, unfortunately, a new steady state where we

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Speaker 1: just assume this has to now be part of our culture,

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Speaker 1: to assume that you have to at least in some

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Speaker 1: way take into account the person of someone's skin color

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Speaker 1: that your gender identity is an important part of what

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Speaker 1: we need to teach kids. And so, in a certain sense,

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Speaker 1: I think that we've lost the medium term battle as

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Speaker 1: we've just accepted these new norms, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: it has to stay that way forever. I just think

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Speaker 1: one of the things that the conservative movement needs to

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Speaker 1: do better in pushing back against this isn't just to

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Speaker 1: push back, but to actually offer an affirmative, alternative vision

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Speaker 1: of identity, an American identity, and I think that that's

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Speaker 1: part of what we've been missing for why we haven't

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Speaker 1: been able to dilute this to irrelevance so far, No doubt.

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Speaker 1: Nicky Haley kind of hinted at that in her announcement today.

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Speaker 1: I know that you're thinking about running for president as well,

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Speaker 1: why would you run? If you do run? And what

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Speaker 1: did you think of Nicky Haley's announcement today? So, actually,

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Speaker 1: truth be told, I haven't had a chance to see

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Speaker 1: her announcement speech, so I don't want to comment on

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Speaker 1: it without seeing it. Of its busy with a few

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Speaker 1: other things today. But look, to me, I just think

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Speaker 1: that we live in a moment where my generation, I

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Speaker 1: think most Americans actually are so hungry for a cause,

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Speaker 1: They're hungry for purpose and meaning and identity. At a

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Speaker 1: point in our national history, were the things that used

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Speaker 1: to fill that void, Things like faith, patriotism, hard work,

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Speaker 1: even family have receded, and that's what creates this black

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Speaker 1: hole of an identity that my generation, I'd say our

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Speaker 1: generation suffers frum and I think that as an opportunity

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Speaker 1: for the conservative movement. I think if we can fill

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Speaker 1: that vacuum, fill that void with a vision of American

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Speaker 1: national identity that runs so deep, that is how we

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Speaker 1: dilute the poison to irrelevance. And you know, in my mind,

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Speaker 1: if you look at people my age or younger, you

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Speaker 1: ask them what does it mean to be an American

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Speaker 1: in the year twenty twenty three, what do you get?

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Speaker 1: You get a blank stare in response. And I just

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Speaker 1: think that the Republican Party can do better. It can

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Speaker 1: deliver a powerful answer to that question. And then if

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Speaker 1: we do that, and only if we do that, can

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Speaker 1: we then face the actual challenges we face on the

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Speaker 1: global stage, like the rise of communist China abroad. And

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Speaker 1: so that's going to be That's going to be, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think the central point of I think it should

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Speaker 1: be the central point of this race. If I enter it,

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Speaker 1: That's exactly why I would be the one entering it.

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Speaker 1: But but you know, it's not less about the question

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Speaker 1: of the who to me, and more about the question

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Speaker 1: of the what and the why? What agenda do we

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Speaker 1: stand for? Why do we stand for it? And just

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Speaker 1: to revive basic rules of the road in this country,

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Speaker 1: like merit, the idea that you get ahead not on

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Speaker 1: the color of your skin, but on the content of

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Speaker 1: your contributions, free speech and open debate, That too, is

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Speaker 1: part of what it means to be American. That the

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Speaker 1: people we elect to run the government. How about this one,

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Speaker 1: are the people who actually run the government rather than

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Speaker 1: a cancerous federal bureaucracy that metastasizes like a cancer. These

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Speaker 1: aren't even partisan ideas, though identify as a conservative. These

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Speaker 1: are basic rules of the road of what it means

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Speaker 1: to be American. And if we can answer that question,

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Speaker 1: then I think we're well on our way towards a

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Speaker 1: national revival. And you know, to tell you the truth,

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Speaker 1: this isn't a nine nine nine plan or a social

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Speaker 1: security reform package that I can put in a binder

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Speaker 1: in hand to another candidate to pursue. I think that

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Speaker 1: these are the kinds of ideas that you have to

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Speaker 1: have played a role in originating yourself in order to

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Speaker 1: actually fully realize this vision, which is why I'm taking

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Speaker 1: this so seriously. We're talking to the vec Ramaswamy, great author,

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Speaker 1: and as you are talking with him contemplating his own

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Speaker 1: run for president. You mentioned this idea of diversity and

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Speaker 1: inclusion which has metastasized. I think that's well said. Into

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Speaker 1: a situation where many people are being elevated above their

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Speaker 1: talent level. I think the Biden administration is a perfect

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Speaker 1: example of that. I've got a poll question up right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious how you would You can't take all three.

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Speaker 1: I think the only reason Kamala Harris got the VP

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Speaker 1: the only reason as well Mayor Pete is in this

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Speaker 1: administration is because he's a gay guy. And I think

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Speaker 1: They're doing very poor jobs at the at the job

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Speaker 1: of which they have. Which one of those you think

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Speaker 1: has done the worst job so far? Oh, that's a

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Speaker 1: very so I would give you Mayor Pete. Mary has

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Speaker 1: done the worst job because thankfully Kamala Harris has stayed

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Speaker 1: away from doing work as much as she possibly can.

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Speaker 1: People complain she didn't go to the border. My view

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Speaker 1: is the less work she does, the better it is

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Speaker 1: for the country. Yeah, weird way her not doing anything

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Speaker 1: substantive was actually a great form of national service. But

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Speaker 1: I think Pete has been in a very different position.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the software glitches that cause

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Speaker 1: planes in this country to not be able to fly.

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Speaker 1: You look in my home state where I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: you now from in Ohio, trains literally falling off tracks,

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Speaker 1: potentially creating environmental and public health disasters. But talking instead,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not making this up days ago about

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Speaker 1: construction diversity, instead obsessing endlessly about climate change when you

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Speaker 1: know what the things if people are going to die

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Speaker 1: of in this country and that community in Ohio or elsewhere,

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Speaker 1: it's not going to be climate change. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be cancer from spills and chemical spills of infrastructure that's

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Speaker 1: rotting and being poorly managed. And I just think that, Look,

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Speaker 1: if I did take a run at this for the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four cycle, I'm going after I think some

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Speaker 1: of the sacred cows of our time. I think affirmative

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Speaker 1: action is one sacred cow. I think this climate religion

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Speaker 1: is another. I think we need to take both of

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Speaker 1: them to the slaughterhouse. And the reason that we're not

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Speaker 1: doing it because we're hiding behind this identitarian view of

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Speaker 1: rewarding people and putting them in positions of power because

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Speaker 1: of the genetic characteristics they inherited on the day they're born,

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Speaker 1: And I think there's a separate problem altogether. You know

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Speaker 1: who you didn't ask them about. It was Joe Biden, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: person who we actually elected to the president of the

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Speaker 1: United States. And so the sad part of the people

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Speaker 1: who are really running the show are this managerial bureaucratic

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Speaker 1: class underneath him. And that's the real problem. You don't

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Speaker 1: talking about merit and government at the very least, let

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Speaker 1: me make sure the people we elect to run the

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Speaker 1: government are the ones who actually run the government, rather

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Speaker 1: than this managerial class that's then staffed by people who

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Speaker 1: are putting their positions voters aren't voters weren't ready to

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Speaker 1: let Kamala Harris whether or not she was a black woman,

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Speaker 1: but are appointed to those positions in part because of

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Speaker 1: these non meritocratic criteria. That is a big part of

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Speaker 1: the problem. Last question for you, VVEC and I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you hanging out with us here. You were talking about

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Speaker 1: the lack of purpose, the fact that there may not be, necessarily,

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Speaker 1: especially among young people, a cohesive idea of what America is.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to talk on this tomorrow, but I was

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Speaker 1: reading this morning in the Wall Street Journal, and I

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Speaker 1: just want to hit you with these numbers. This is

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Speaker 1: the percentage of high school students in the past year

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Speaker 1: who experience persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness. Fifty seven

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Speaker 1: percent of girls in high school experience that, and thirty

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Speaker 1: percent of girls say they seriously considered attempting suicide. I mean,

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Speaker 1: those are staggering numbers. They are continuing to skyrocket. My

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Speaker 1: theory is an evact that it's connected to social media,

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Speaker 1: especially for teenage girls. How do we change this? So, look,

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Speaker 1: you're hitting on these are exactly the themes that motivate

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Speaker 1: me to maybe take this next step. There's this wave

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Speaker 1: of depression, anxiety, a mental health epidemic. Why do you

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Speaker 1: think that is? It is because we as human beings

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Speaker 1: are wired to be called to a higher purpose, and

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Speaker 1: so when we lose that sense of purpose and meaning

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Speaker 1: were lost, then we tell that next generation the next

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Speaker 1: thing that's actually even worse about this as we tell

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Speaker 1: them that you can't talk about it in the open.

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Speaker 1: So now you have a loss of purpose. On one hand,

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Speaker 1: you have a culture that teaches these kids that they

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Speaker 1: can't actually share their crue thoughts in the open. That's

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Speaker 1: the new censorious culture that we live in. And then

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Speaker 1: against that backdrop, what does social media do. It takes

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Speaker 1: those and picks at those insecurities and puts them on

892
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Speaker 1: algorithmic steroids. As in my view is, look, if you

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Speaker 1: can't smoke an addictive cigarette until the age of eighteen,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you should be able to use an

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Speaker 1: addictive social media product at least until the age of

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Speaker 1: sixteen either. That's our Polson point, but I think that

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Speaker 1: it's something that even the principled libertarian I used to

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Speaker 1: identify the libertarian I don't anymore. But even a principled

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Speaker 1: libertarian would say that that doesn't that principle of liberty

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Speaker 1: doesn't apply to these kids. Kids should not be able

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Speaker 1: to use addictive, toxic products at least until they're fully developed,

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Speaker 1: at least age sixteen for social media. But that's still

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Speaker 1: just symptomatic therapy. That's still a band aid. That deeper

904
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Speaker 1: cancer is the loss of purpose, the loss of meaning,

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Speaker 1: the loss of identity, I think we in the conservative

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Speaker 1: movement can do better, and I hope we'll play a

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Speaker 1: role in whatever way I can in leading us to

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Speaker 1: do better, in filling that void of purpose and then

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Speaker 1: creating a culture where we're actually able to have open

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Speaker 1: conversation again in this country rather than this culture of

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Speaker 1: thought suppression and censorship even in the next generation. Great stuff,

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Speaker 1: as always, How can people find you of AVEC if

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Speaker 1: they've liked what you've said today? Thank you? Find me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at vig Ramaswamy dot com. You know, just

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Speaker 1: spelled the usual way, and vic Ramaswamy dot com has

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Speaker 1: some information on my books, and stay tuned. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be making a decision in the relatively

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Speaker 1: in your term. Appreciate it a man, have a good day.

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