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Speaker 2: Come on man, good pla ain't fighting the go one.
Speaker 1: That's right man, Happy New Year, my brother, Happy New Year.
Speaker 1: Singing y'all all out there at that wrestle MANI your
Speaker 1: wrestling fast man. You know what I'm saying. What made
Speaker 1: y'all get it? How did that even connect?
Speaker 3: Like, you know, first and foremost shout out to my
Speaker 3: brother west side Gun.
Speaker 1: Oh wait o, Lord, they bad the gun. They said,
Speaker 1: you can't ban the snowman. How they banded the gun?
Speaker 3: You know, you know, I'm gonna save that part of
Speaker 3: the story for him to tell it. But you know,
Speaker 3: we've been making some waves and shit got a little complicated.
Speaker 3: I mean, so they did do my brother dirty on
Speaker 3: that on that note, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 3: we got into it, like you know, we since we
Speaker 3: was kids. We love wrestling and being grown and being
Speaker 3: able to actually purchase tickets. And some of these guys
Speaker 3: are actual friends, you know, we support so we always
Speaker 3: was front row at WrestleMania's or whatever. The premium main
Speaker 3: event was a w ship t NA, but we got
Speaker 3: the opportunity to do our own thing.
Speaker 2: So you know we got fourth rope.
Speaker 1: That's what's up man. That's dope, man. Congratulations on that
Speaker 1: bro Tian hip hop and the wrestling was I ain't
Speaker 1: never thought, but like you said, as a kid, we
Speaker 1: always was in there with come on man, they had
Speaker 1: what was my man animal steallna, my nigga got big
Speaker 1: jaw stuff, all traded giant. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's when I was in there with Coco b Wad.
Speaker 2: That's the ever that introduced me to wrestling.
Speaker 1: My nigga, We all was a little niggas practicing that
Speaker 1: shit on our little cousins like brothers like this, jumping
Speaker 1: off the couch, elbowed in a neck nigga. Noah, that's
Speaker 1: true man, that's what's up man. So you're doing the
Speaker 1: music thing, man, what was to come up the moment
Speaker 1: that you was like, let me get in, let me
Speaker 1: take this music shit serious man.
Speaker 3: Well, you know I came up in a battle circuit,
Speaker 3: in a battle circuit, but it was way before it
Speaker 3: got commercial, wait, before the cameras really started to play
Speaker 3: a part to it. But you know that gave me confidence.
Speaker 3: But I when I really took it serious, I want
Speaker 3: to say, it's uh hm hmm. I think once I
Speaker 3: started writing for other people and getting some of those
Speaker 3: ass cap checks.
Speaker 1: Ship, that a change that to make everything here.
Speaker 2: That made my parents take me serious, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: So that was why they're always the first haters. Yo.
Speaker 1: That's literally your first group of haters, your moms or
Speaker 1: your pops, like your brother all that they the first crazy.
Speaker 3: But you know it was I was trying a lot
Speaker 3: of shit, you know what I mean. And you know
Speaker 3: my parents is is West Indians. So they wanted me
Speaker 3: to get a job. Go get a job.
Speaker 2: What are you doing?
Speaker 3: Like it looked like I was just jerking wreck until
Speaker 3: they've seen something, they seen my name on it.
Speaker 2: It was like okay, oh yeah keep doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah you should pay all they want to make sure
Speaker 1: that you got paid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you figured it out after that. You know,
Speaker 3: they've been on they've been on board ship. They're my
Speaker 3: biggest fans.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they become That's how all the haters off.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 1: Listen. My theory. My theory is the hater is your
Speaker 1: biggest fan because they have to know everything about you
Speaker 1: to hate you.
Speaker 2: That's a fact.
Speaker 1: So they are your biggest fans in hindsight, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So we gotta love it. And moms
Speaker 1: and pops. You know, my mom's no, she was telling
Speaker 1: me put them wraps down, now do that homework. Now
Speaker 1: she looking like pick the fucking right what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Did you talk about you in the pool?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, my mom.
Speaker 3: My mom's ain't she like you know, she's she's just happy.
Speaker 3: I'm doing my own thing. My pops passed, but before
Speaker 3: before he did, he was definitely my biggest fan. He'll
Speaker 3: be mad at me, but he'll run into somebody and
Speaker 3: I'll be the first person he Yo, you know smoke, doesn't.
Speaker 1: He that's my son? That's right. He was proud.
Speaker 2: He was super proud.
Speaker 1: That's all you want to do. That's all you want
Speaker 1: to do is make your parents proud. Man. That's what sure.
Speaker 1: So I might have this miscon screw out. Did you
Speaker 1: did dipset put you in the industry? You got on
Speaker 1: through them or a different Now?
Speaker 2: I sol shites bub shout out to my.
Speaker 1: Brother Purple City, right right. You know I always had
Speaker 1: the haze on them always. He was the one that
Speaker 1: introduced me to real weed. You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure that way back in here, Da s
Speaker 3: is for sure pivotal and and getting me a part
Speaker 3: of the system, you know what I mean, and teaching
Speaker 3: me how ship works. And I met Shies through Johnny Ships.
Speaker 3: That's you know, that's the first person actually gave me
Speaker 3: a shot, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And around I want to.
Speaker 3: Say, oh four oh five, like the tail end of
Speaker 3: what everybody knew Purple City to be with ag and
Speaker 3: unlike you know, they was drifting off and doing their
Speaker 3: own thing.
Speaker 1: The second nicest nigga with glasses up straight up, rest
Speaker 1: of peace, my man, Batman was the first nigga with
Speaker 1: glasses man that he was nice. And then when I
Speaker 1: sing un constant where he came out, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: that's crazy.
Speaker 2: He's a rapping ass nigga.
Speaker 1: Word up, he's a rapper man.
Speaker 3: He's a rappers rapper for sure. For sure, I came
Speaker 3: in the tail end of that. And you know, Shites
Speaker 3: is still pivotal in my career today, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, that's.
Speaker 1: He's doing this thing in the wee game man, right, sure,
Speaker 1: that's what man. He was out here winning a round
Speaker 1: with them. That's when it was piff.
Speaker 3: He actually made the word piff in the in the
Speaker 3: Urban Dictionary is made by Shit's buff.
Speaker 1: So no fucking way, man, that's what's up man. So
Speaker 1: how did that link bridge the gap for you to
Speaker 1: link with currency? Man? A man burned up man.
Speaker 2: That's a good question.
Speaker 3: And I want to say, like nine, when we started,
Speaker 3: like doing south By Southwest.
Speaker 1: Damn, I was the first ones doing that.
Speaker 2: It was out there.
Speaker 1: That's around when it first started old Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we had the Smokers Club that was our
Speaker 3: brand that we was pushing at the time, and we
Speaker 3: did our first show in south By Southwest and spit
Speaker 3: It was on that show. Whiz was on that show,
Speaker 3: Jay Rock and Kendrick Lamar was on that show. Big
Speaker 3: Crit was on that show, and you know that started
Speaker 3: our brotherhood. But the first time I actually met Spitner
Speaker 3: was when he was on the Freshman cover and I
Speaker 3: think that was a little before we did south By
Speaker 3: Southwest and it was a session with Mickey Fax. And
Speaker 3: this is when Spitter was smoking blunts. I know he
Speaker 3: don't want to hear that, but smoking blunts, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Yeah, he was the first to the
Speaker 3: conversion of the Paper Paper.
Speaker 2: Gang but.
Speaker 3: To answer the question, you know, going to south By Southwest,
Speaker 3: that's what started the button brotherhood of all of us.
Speaker 2: And that's how I really like started kicking it.
Speaker 3: And then you know, moving to Dame, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, when Dame had d D one seventy two,
Speaker 3: that's where we.
Speaker 1: Really Oh yeah, I remember he was fucking with Dame. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: Dame and Spinner had drama too, yo, Chill, I forgot
Speaker 1: about that. Yo.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure they're good now, of course, you know,
Speaker 3: but yeah, that's where we really was, like you know,
Speaker 3: cutting records and just run around the city and just
Speaker 3: you know, kmarate.
Speaker 2: We really got built, dud. That was the foundation, man.
Speaker 1: That's what's something. Man, currency a good dude. Man, I
Speaker 1: was supposed to go out there to New Orleans and
Speaker 1: funk with him. I'm gonna make it out there real soon. Man,
Speaker 1: he got a Taple movie, trust me. I know by
Speaker 1: g fucking you from a legendary you know, every borough
Speaker 1: in New York got they Spinners got their legendary history.
Speaker 1: Top dogs like being from Harlem though, Like that's that's
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure because y'all put a lot of
Speaker 1: people came out of Harlem Man. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Might it's too many to name, but you know, the
Speaker 1: elite main niggas mas like puffing from Harlem. But I
Speaker 1: don't know how he adapted Harlem. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to happen the locks too. Lots
Speaker 1: from Yonkers if they adapt their Halem too. Y'all cheating
Speaker 1: my niggas is stealing artist. So we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: that on another episode. How harllm be just stealing niggas nigga? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all them to you because it's love. It is, you
Speaker 1: know it is. I'm not hating, but I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: We never took a queen's nigga, just like he's Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Queens took Brooklyn niggas they took, Yeah, niggas definitely think
Speaker 1: a z fro queens.
Speaker 3: I want to say, yeah, y'all, lord, y'all lost some
Speaker 3: y'all lost a few of the queens.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Niggas took niggas jack, But.
Speaker 3: It's love, you know, you know, it's it's a five
Speaker 3: Borough thing when we're out of New York. But you know,
Speaker 3: queens get the money. You know Harlem. You know what
Speaker 3: we do in Brooklyn. You know how y'all niggas give
Speaker 3: it up and then shout out to the brook.
Speaker 1: No more we making it Brooklyn, keep on making it.
Speaker 1: Were making it now. We got new mentality, y'all. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty six. We gotta get this money, baby,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But like I said, being from Harlem, you got May's
Speaker 1: dip set. Cam. You know, Cam is dip set fucking
Speaker 1: the locks. Big, you know, Big Al McGrath. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of legendary spiders, too many to name, too many, man,
Speaker 1: But like, what was the pressure like for you to
Speaker 1: at your name in that historical line up?
Speaker 3: Because you know, Bliss, it never really was no pressure
Speaker 3: to be honest, because you know, I knew where I
Speaker 3: was from, but I also knew, you know, I had
Speaker 3: my own path to make and lead. So like, I
Speaker 3: think it gave me more of a confidence to be
Speaker 3: a part of the group of names that you said,
Speaker 3: instead of really having pressure, because you know, when I'm
Speaker 3: everywhere I go, I'm waving a flag of Harlem, and
Speaker 3: obviously you know I'm a New York nigga. So I
Speaker 3: got a lot of friends that's from the South and
Speaker 3: the Midwest and the West Coast. So, you know, being
Speaker 3: a Harlem nigga, I always stand out because when niggas
Speaker 3: ask me where where I'm from, I say, that's right
Speaker 3: to say New York.
Speaker 1: That's right. Nobody says it's crazy. You could be in
Speaker 1: another country and you're like, yo, where you're from. Niggas
Speaker 1: say they borrow.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Let them figure out where
Speaker 2: that's Oh, New York. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So I think it gave me more of a confidence
Speaker 3: instead of a pressure to actually like live up to
Speaker 3: what other niggas was doing, because I feel like I
Speaker 3: not even I feel, I know, like I came.
Speaker 2: Up in it in the Internet era, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: So it's completely different to how you know, the guys
Speaker 3: that trailblazed the way came up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So, man, listen, y'all killed this. Listen. I go to
Speaker 1: my streams, I go to my Spotify and look at
Speaker 1: my old albums and be like, oh, my ship was
Speaker 1: weak on here, and then you look at me like
Speaker 1: they like, damn, but I went gold. The foot traffic
Speaker 1: was good, niggas digital traffic was bad. But for y'all
Speaker 1: to come up in that new era, y'all paving the
Speaker 1: way now for the like my next thingment whatever, go
Speaker 1: into the other brand deals, the merchandise, the the weed brands,
Speaker 1: like everything. How was that? Because I feel like you
Speaker 1: want of the main, like the main only artists in
Speaker 1: New York that really maintained his brand outside of music
Speaker 1: where it's not just about music. When they spoke, when
Speaker 1: they speak, smoke dizzer right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You know what's ill blizzled?
Speaker 3: Like I was talking to Rob Mark mean years ago,
Speaker 3: like cause I used to be thirsty to get on
Speaker 3: a Freshman cover Like that was like something that I
Speaker 3: had to have back then, and I never got it
Speaker 3: and all my friends got it, like niggas that was
Speaker 3: next to me, niggas that came up under me. I
Speaker 3: used to be like, what do niggas got against me?
Speaker 3: And then Rob told me it wasn't what people had
Speaker 3: against me. It was like yo, like what are you
Speaker 3: doing outside of rap? Like you gotta have something else
Speaker 3: other than rap to make a story for real this day?
Speaker 3: Like yeah you nice, Yeah you talk that shit, but
Speaker 3: what else? And from that day I was always thinking
Speaker 3: about my what else because it got to be more
Speaker 3: than just you know, rap, It's business, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean.
Speaker 3: So putting all those components around, like the weed, the wrestling,
Speaker 3: the fly ship, you know what I mean, Like it's
Speaker 3: it's all different brands and ways that I could compartmentalize
Speaker 3: and make money off these things. So I think just
Speaker 3: having that mentality made it a little easier for me
Speaker 3: to develop ship and actually keep it going. And obviously
Speaker 3: I can't do it by myself because nothing great happens alone.
Speaker 3: I mean, so I had a lot of partners along
Speaker 3: the way and I still do.
Speaker 2: So, you know, just taking that serious.
Speaker 1: You can making my notes look like I'm Steven a
Speaker 1: blessing because every time you say something, I look down.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's going into my next note. K
Speaker 1: I need an ESPN spot.
Speaker 2: Now you're at this.
Speaker 1: He's really good at this. Good look. And I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, because you know, you said your business mind like,
Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna say, because these kids out
Speaker 1: here today don't really understand how important ownership is. Man Like,
Speaker 1: speak to them about hindpoint ownership is behind your brand
Speaker 1: and how that shapes your like your mentality shaped about
Speaker 1: that because if you don't own nothing, then you're just
Speaker 1: doing all the footwork as a slave trader.
Speaker 3: And you know, because the ill part is you learn
Speaker 3: how important ownership is.
Speaker 2: Not owner shit, you know what I'm saying, right, and
Speaker 2: ownership and I learned. I learned the hardway.
Speaker 3: I learned from you know, just being impulsive and doing
Speaker 3: shit when you just see that one number and you
Speaker 3: just got to get to that, and just being impulsive
Speaker 3: instead of just being like, you know what, own money
Speaker 3: ain't good money and if I wait, I can get
Speaker 3: triple at quadruple that. But you know, being young and
Speaker 3: having a family, it makes you impulsive, especially being an artist,
Speaker 3: a nigga from New York that got to keep up,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. At the beginning, I made
Speaker 3: a lot of impulsive decisions that made me have to learn,
Speaker 3: you fee what I'm saying. So going through that hitting
Speaker 3: my head a couple of times, I was like, all right,
Speaker 3: doing the same shit over and over and expecting different results.
Speaker 3: This is insanity and I'm not a crazy nigga. So
Speaker 3: slowed this down a little bit and focus on one
Speaker 3: thing and then build a team around me to make
Speaker 3: sure that these things don't happen against That's a fact.
Speaker 2: Owning is very important.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. All these kids, they be so quick
Speaker 1: they see the dollar. Yeah, don't think about the end results.
Speaker 1: That's how it all. My theory is, if somebody ready
Speaker 1: to give you something up front, what they making on
Speaker 1: the back end, how much is it worth you? Feel me?
Speaker 1: Because nothing is free. If you're gonna give me this,
Speaker 1: then I mean you got a profit. You're not giving
Speaker 1: me this money to lose. You gotta think about it
Speaker 1: that way. So you know, that's my thing when I
Speaker 1: talk to these young boys about all that, Like you
Speaker 1: was the first I heard, like, you know, when you
Speaker 1: listen to the Southern rappers, like the pemp Seas, the
Speaker 1: scar Faces, the you know, even out west and the Bay,
Speaker 1: a lot of the Bay areas had that you know, chill,
Speaker 1: the smoke adelic vibe, the like the pimp field you like,
Speaker 1: I feel like the first East Coast consistent artists with
Speaker 1: that as hell? Do you feel like you get enough
Speaker 1: credit for that, for your contribution on the East Side
Speaker 1: for that?
Speaker 2: Oh damn, that's a good question, bro.
Speaker 3: No, But to hear niggas like you say that when
Speaker 3: I'm talking to niggas like kiss you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: and other the niggas that I grew up on that
Speaker 3: y'all inspired me. When I hear from y'all and let
Speaker 3: me know, Okay, you're doing it right, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? And nah, I don't feel like I get
Speaker 3: that credit. But at the end of the day, my
Speaker 3: story's still going. So I'm just I'm pushing. I'm not
Speaker 3: really looking for the praise either, like, but to get
Speaker 3: the acknowledgement, it's always it's always good to know that
Speaker 3: I'm on my path, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So I'm a firm believer whether one or one million, right,
Speaker 1: because one could tell a million facts, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So I'm a firm believer of that man
Speaker 1: one person listening and know and see and can tell.
Speaker 1: That's so all you need, man and integrity is everything.
Speaker 1: You can hear it in the music. Niggas know when
Speaker 1: you you authentic or you're faking it.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, see it because you know
Speaker 3: when the cameras ain't on, can't fake were full sizing
Speaker 3: everybody up the right, Are you really what you say
Speaker 3: you are.
Speaker 1: That's the shit. Social media giving advantage to the to
Speaker 1: y'all with where and out there you can hide a nigga.
Speaker 1: A lot of these artists hid behind the Double Excel interview,
Speaker 1: the saucemag interview. They video and then the camera cut off.
Speaker 1: You never see these guys again. So to you as
Speaker 1: a fan, you like, oh, he with that ship, and
Speaker 1: then social media come out and you're like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: hold on niggas mushing this hood like he can't even
Speaker 1: get out the car to go to the store, Like
Speaker 1: wait one second. Like social media ruined it for a
Speaker 1: lot of niggas from my era, but I feel like
Speaker 1: they enhanced it for a lot of niggas for your.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the niggas from or some of the niggas
Speaker 3: from my era, we just know that, you know, you
Speaker 3: don't gotta be if you're not. I'm not a tough guy,
Speaker 3: that's right. You fee what I'm saying, Like, that's not the.
Speaker 1: Coolest rule the world.
Speaker 3: Maybe you feel me, So I'm just like, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna always be unapologetically me because that's all I
Speaker 3: know how to do.
Speaker 2: Now, do I get angry? Yeah, nigga I'm human, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So you know, niggas get mad.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I know how to carry
Speaker 3: myself on social media because I know it's other people watching.
Speaker 3: Like my kids follow me on social media. My niece
Speaker 3: followed me, like, you know, I got I got kids
Speaker 3: that's looking at me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So it's like anytime I pull them in my stories,
Speaker 3: my kids is the first person, the first people there.
Speaker 2: So that's a fact.
Speaker 3: I know I'm being watched. And not only that the
Speaker 3: world is watching, you know what I mean, it's people
Speaker 3: watching me that I've never seen a day in my life.
Speaker 3: So I got to make sure that you know, I
Speaker 3: represent the right way for my family at the very least,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's a fact. That's a fact. Do you feel like
Speaker 1: let me ask you in your opinion, because I get
Speaker 1: this question a lot. People always ask me what project
Speaker 1: or what record you feel like best represents you or
Speaker 1: tell a story about you.
Speaker 2: I would say an album.
Speaker 3: I say my album with Pete Rock, Don't Smoke Rockete.
Speaker 3: That was that was like the catalyst to me, like
Speaker 3: being recognized by people I really.
Speaker 2: Look up to.
Speaker 1: You know, Pete Rock is a legend.
Speaker 3: Because it was like, nigga, you got an album with
Speaker 3: Pete Rock, how did you do it?
Speaker 1: Fact?
Speaker 3: I mean so, And Pete was like my Phil Jackson,
Speaker 3: Like I was in the studio for every song with
Speaker 3: Pete and Pete will be like, nah, do it over?
Speaker 1: Mmm you need Yeah.
Speaker 3: He will push back like no know about that. Oh no,
Speaker 3: that's that's it right there. Don't do nothing else.
Speaker 2: And he was allowing me to challenge him like, nah.
Speaker 3: Pete, I know you know everybody loved the drums, but
Speaker 3: let's hold the drums on this one. He's like, you
Speaker 3: know what, We're gonna name the song hold of Drums.
Speaker 3: And that's like one of my most popular songs.
Speaker 1: That's crazy, hold the drum. I told my niggas cheat
Speaker 1: album gonna be called it's cheat fall. It's cheat fault.
Speaker 1: It's your Fall'm in here rapping this ship. Man, you
Speaker 1: did this ship. It's your fault. So if they say
Speaker 1: it's whack, it's cheat fault. If it's lick, it's back.
Speaker 1: I still cheat fun yo, like doing the brand and
Speaker 1: the hip hop shit man, Like how do you stay
Speaker 1: focused on different my high words get fucked up? Keeping
Speaker 1: it separated like one from the other because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you I've been in this business. I had the
Speaker 1: brands get low I done, have the brand Cush Gang.
Speaker 1: You know, we got the rock Salid moving, we got
Speaker 1: the weed brand mind right. And I ain't got one
Speaker 1: T shirt on nobody nothing because I'm not from that era.
Speaker 1: You know, at Rockefeller we had somebody that did that.
Speaker 1: A whole department. You go down there and tell them, yo,
Speaker 1: I want this done. You had boxes of T shirts
Speaker 1: next week in the office waiting for you. You came
Speaker 1: up with a logo, you sent it downstairs, Bobby Dash,
Speaker 1: run that shit downstairs. Boxes of hatbands, hats, T shirts
Speaker 1: was waiting. So I never knew where to go out
Speaker 1: and get that plug that footwork for that. It's not
Speaker 1: like the capsule spot.
Speaker 2: See for us.
Speaker 3: You know, I just utilize my buddy system, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, And like how I separate it is,
Speaker 3: sometimes you can't separate it. Sometimes the worlds just meet
Speaker 3: regardless as much as you try to separate them. Sometimes
Speaker 3: it just makes sense to you know, cross brands certain things.
Speaker 3: But I lean on my buddy system, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, what good is your comrades if you
Speaker 3: can't utilize them.
Speaker 2: It's not using them, it's utilizing them, like.
Speaker 3: You know, Like for instance, West makes some of the
Speaker 3: best merch in hip hop, if not the best merch.
Speaker 2: I wear his shit like I wear Blendciago, Gucci or.
Speaker 1: Anything else, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: My man Steven Quasi, they got killoff season, the lever
Speaker 3: shit I'm always and I'm wearing that shit. I'm paying
Speaker 3: top dollar too, you know what I mean. The same
Speaker 3: way how I'm gonna spend with any of these other brands.
Speaker 3: It's not only to support my friends, but I like
Speaker 3: fly shit and I'm gonna utilize them niggas too the same.
Speaker 2: Way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So it's like you gotta you gotta build your farm
Speaker 3: of people around you and all y'all. You know, we
Speaker 3: all feed off each other like we you know, we
Speaker 3: don't charge each other for features and no shit like that.
Speaker 2: Like nigga, We just working.
Speaker 3: Keeping it, pushing, keeping it in the family is really
Speaker 3: like the black dollar when you think about it, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, We keep it in the family,
Speaker 3: we always gonna expand it.
Speaker 1: That's what's up That bring me to a story. I
Speaker 1: remember being a young nigga. Right. It was probably like
Speaker 1: about twenty one, twenty two, and I'm walking in this
Speaker 1: is when we did h We was in Death Jam office,
Speaker 1: Rockefeller on fifty yeah, and I'm walking in the building
Speaker 1: coming in there. I got two three of my niggas
Speaker 1: with me, Jay coming out, and I'm like, yo, ho,
Speaker 1: what's uthing? Man? I need I need more radio support.
Speaker 1: I'm telling this, nigga, I need niggas. You know this
Speaker 1: when the merch the label wasn't the same Rockefeller. This
Speaker 1: was at the tail end where you put that call in.
Speaker 1: It wasn't boxes and T shirts waiting no more, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And he was like, Yo, you
Speaker 1: gotta get your niggas to move around and start. You know,
Speaker 1: none of your niggas got no plays. None of these
Speaker 1: niggas know how to move around. So I'm looking at
Speaker 1: my niggas like, now all my niggas know how to do?
Speaker 1: Is is? Shoot? It's that nigga was like, then you
Speaker 1: need new niggas. So I'm looking at him like, Nigga,
Speaker 1: I can't get rid of by these my niggas, my
Speaker 1: childhood friends. I can't fork them for only knowing how
Speaker 1: to hold it down, and he was like, but we
Speaker 1: don't got no beef. Niggas don't neither Holy down or
Speaker 1: nigga have to think like damn, even my new niggas
Speaker 1: ain't make no merch. I ain't got some new niggas.
Speaker 1: They ain't make no yo. They Florida at the range learning.
Speaker 3: Nigga. They preparing like if you go that, oh man,
Speaker 3: I gotta send you some Marco blizzle.
Speaker 2: Just I see you the mock up some way to
Speaker 2: get it done.
Speaker 1: Just go come hold me down, man, put me in
Speaker 1: the game. Yo. The merch ship got you, I got you.
Speaker 1: We slipping dog you that nigga burn The man told me, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: I make I don't even want to you know you
Speaker 1: sometimes you're like talking personal conversations you because then they won't
Speaker 1: talk to you again.
Speaker 2: Bernie like that now killing him.
Speaker 1: He is destroying them.
Speaker 3: Niggas in a wheelchair right now performing though the niggas.
Speaker 3: I think he tores fibula and some ship like.
Speaker 1: No, niggas ain't even athletic. How you do that? A blank?
Speaker 1: You can't smoke a blood? Turn the fi yo?
Speaker 2: Yo?
Speaker 1: Are you well?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: How you rolling up in the.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 1: Niggas is not athletic. Those are like sports injuries. While
Speaker 1: nigga like, Yo.
Speaker 3: When I see that, I was like, how the fuck
Speaker 3: did he do that? But I've seen him on the internet.
Speaker 3: But then I also seen him in front of like
Speaker 3: thousand people, Like last night, I said, get.
Speaker 1: Better, my nigga, Man, get the fib right. Damn. I
Speaker 1: remember I broke my ship Man in Miami got hit
Speaker 1: by a cab riding them scooters and they had to
Speaker 1: do summer jam in the wheelchair. I thought I was Big,
Speaker 1: because God, my blessed. I seen when Big got his
Speaker 1: car accident. He had a show and he had the
Speaker 1: girl wheeling him around. So I thought I'd do that
Speaker 1: as summer jam. It wasn't that legend It wasn't that legendary.
Speaker 1: No one remembers.
Speaker 3: It wasn't that legendary.
Speaker 1: It was legendary in my mind. Remember th wor Yo,
Speaker 1: What keeps you grounded in this business? Being through you know,
Speaker 1: having all the relationships you have, being through all the situations, deals, independent,
Speaker 1: you know, records not going like you wanted to go?
Speaker 1: What keeps you grounded as an artist? The way you like? Man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna still stay focused, you know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: because a lot of niggas, you know, they tend to
Speaker 1: give up and not know how close they was.
Speaker 2: Yah, I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I'll be one of them artists like I used to be,
Speaker 3: where it's like, man, fuck this shit, and then it'll
Speaker 3: always be one thing to bring me right back. But
Speaker 3: just being persistent, you know what I mean, and just
Speaker 3: knowing that this shit is a marathon for real, I
Speaker 3: mean so like, and I guess keeping me grounded also
Speaker 3: is looking at people that actually gave up, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, and not saying uh maliciously, like respectfully,
Speaker 3: like I don't want to be like this, nigga.
Speaker 2: I gotta keep it going, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And and obviously you know the people that believe in
Speaker 3: me that I'm actually doing this for them too, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So it's like I can't. I can't give up, nigga.
Speaker 3: I've been nigga, done came too far anyway, So it's like,
Speaker 3: I ain't coming this far to just come this far.
Speaker 1: That's a fact, feel me, that's a fact. That's a bar.
Speaker 1: I ain't come this far just to come this far.
Speaker 1: That's a boy, I think, Boy, French just said that. Right,
Speaker 1: there's new joint with him and Max, Yeah, with him
Speaker 1: in Max Man shout out the way the cokewave. See yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm fifty the coke wave. They got me back on
Speaker 1: the coke wave almost on the fifth flow, and I'm
Speaker 1: on the coke wave. Ship is bad music influencing the
Speaker 1: old hands now, YI, so out of everything, man, like
Speaker 1: you do the sports. Y'all got your sports entertainment thing. Man,
Speaker 1: you got the brand companies, you do the music. What's
Speaker 1: the most fun? You think? You can't say? All three?
Speaker 2: Nah, all three ain't the most fun.
Speaker 3: Because you know, obviously, nigga, we came up smoking bud
Speaker 3: so just to be able to move how we move
Speaker 3: with the weeds, like that's unfathomable. You can't, we can't
Speaker 3: fathom that.
Speaker 1: Hold on from New York. Y'all gonna wait till I
Speaker 1: move to legalize it. After y'all to locked me up
Speaker 1: in every county, then at every precinct, pay every fine,
Speaker 1: and every time I got locked up in always a
Speaker 1: school zone around where the fine go extra five hundred
Speaker 1: because you in the school zone. I got locked up
Speaker 1: on the GW and they said I was in the
Speaker 1: school zone. The fuck is there school on the bridge?
Speaker 1: Word like? And this is when they came out with
Speaker 1: the Mason jaws. Now they got just lit the al
Speaker 1: and the cop right there, the smoke going up. It
Speaker 1: looked like a cartoon to smoke on there. And he
Speaker 1: saw me. Nigga pulled me over lout. This is one
Speaker 1: of the funny stories. We're gonna go back. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but I gotta tell his story because got the Mason jaw.
Speaker 1: If you know a chia pet, that's what the Mason
Speaker 1: jaw felt like. Looking where to stash it car. That
Speaker 1: shit felt like it was growing as the cop was
Speaker 1: walking up, it was growing more like I just put
Speaker 1: the ship on the dashboard, like fucking ain't nowhere to
Speaker 1: put this ship caught. So of course he takes me
Speaker 1: out the car, take us to the precinct. We get
Speaker 1: down there. I got got the bleak on my own tatty.
Speaker 1: Then they could go to take pictures. You got tattoos,
Speaker 1: know how they hit you with that? Let me take
Speaker 1: pictures and they could take a picture of my tattoo.
Speaker 1: He looked and say, you Memphis bleak. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the nigga like, well, I just so you think I'm
Speaker 1: a fuck I'm that much of a fan, nigga? You
Speaker 1: bugging like Nigga was like, come on, man, tore the
Speaker 1: ship up and let us go my nigga on some
Speaker 1: g ship Like I'm a fan, Nigga rocks for Why
Speaker 1: you ain't say that on the bridge, Like I ain't
Speaker 1: know that shit work. Hey, y'all heard of Rockefella, you know,
Speaker 1: but that we story you just said made me think
Speaker 1: about that. Man. But I was asking.
Speaker 2: You the most fun?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what you have the most fun or the most
Speaker 1: intriguing thing that that you wake up and drives you
Speaker 1: the most, give you that push.
Speaker 2: Right now is the wrestling shit.
Speaker 3: I'm having the most fun in the world with that
Speaker 3: ship right now because it's like, you know, it's a
Speaker 3: new business and I'm getting to like mingle with people
Speaker 3: that I grew up watching and I'm learning not from
Speaker 3: a fan perspective, but from the business perspective, like behind
Speaker 3: the curtain actually being you know, one of the owners
Speaker 3: of a wrestling promotion, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And that's different.
Speaker 3: It's super different because we indeed, but we we work
Speaker 3: on a major.
Speaker 2: Structure.
Speaker 3: So I'm learning so much and I'm getting to put
Speaker 3: my knowledge of being a fan for forty one years
Speaker 3: to test. So I'm having the most fun with that
Speaker 3: shit and just creating matches and putting new wrestlers on,
Speaker 3: giving nigga shots, you know what I mean, and just
Speaker 3: being embedded.
Speaker 1: You we can signed wrestlers. Choke. That's a wrestler. Dog.
Speaker 1: Somebody in the hood think they got that max skill wrestler.
Speaker 1: We wrestler entertainment. Now you know what I mean. Yo,
Speaker 1: So ship you've been there. Let's go Top five all
Speaker 1: time wrestlers, Top five all time in order? No no,
Speaker 1: no order?
Speaker 2: All right, Well I'm gonna go. My number one is
Speaker 2: hoh Kogan.
Speaker 1: That's right. I don't care. Despite whatever, Yeah, despite the controversy.
Speaker 1: Niggas know they was a hooka.
Speaker 3: Baby I was, and not for nothing blues with that
Speaker 3: was my men, Like, oh, you know, I knew that
Speaker 3: was my man.
Speaker 1: I never been saying see and they said he was racist.
Speaker 1: Come on, dug you darker than me, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like dog, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like I went and had dinner women and all that,
Speaker 3: like a couple of year years ago.
Speaker 2: That was that was my man.
Speaker 3: And you know shout out the Nick his his son
Speaker 3: Nick Nick still home today.
Speaker 2: But Hogan, Chris Jericho.
Speaker 3: I love Chris Jericho because he got the the fucking
Speaker 3: art of reinventing, you know what I mean That Nigga
Speaker 3: reinvented for the last thirty years, just every year something different.
Speaker 3: And he didn't won every championship in every promotion, Stone Coat,
Speaker 3: Steve Auston, you know what I mean, Like he ushered
Speaker 3: in the ad an error in wrestling that.
Speaker 1: Nigga came in drinking a beer, crack a can of
Speaker 1: beer on your head. Yeah, straight with the bad leg too.
Speaker 1: I didn't got the stinky leg early.
Speaker 3: And the George, the George before, he just wasn't wrestling
Speaker 3: in them. But he's coming out with the George the
Speaker 3: can of beer in the middle, yo. I mean Undertaker.
Speaker 1: The Undertaker changed the game. They could come out, shake
Speaker 1: the rope on you and choke you out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we knew it wasn't it's it's not a
Speaker 3: human walk in the earth, that's like the Undertaker, But
Speaker 3: we all took him serious, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like he had the art of making the fans believe.
Speaker 1: But it was rumors about him. They were saying they
Speaker 1: they doubled the Undertaker, like they put a new undertaker.
Speaker 2: Not an eye.
Speaker 3: So that was nineteen ninety five when they did an
Speaker 3: Undertaker first Undertaker thing for Summer Slant. They had Prome
Speaker 3: Tom Bryant Lee playing undertaker to confuse niggas.
Speaker 1: They said that with the Warrior too. Before that they doubled.
Speaker 3: But no, that's not true. That's just people just chatting.
Speaker 3: But on my number five is probably Sean Michaelson.
Speaker 1: K. That's right, that's right. The Heartbreak Kid by nigga,
Speaker 1: fuck it, what was it? The Heartbreak Foundation was it?
Speaker 3: That's the heart Found found Yeah, that's Brad Hard and
Speaker 3: Jim and Anvil yo.
Speaker 1: See I was like tag team niggas because those niggas
Speaker 1: the Killer Bees, the Road Warriors, yeah, my nigga, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Road Warriors was yeah, before they merged, it when
Speaker 1: it was the w A.
Speaker 2: Yeah, before they went.
Speaker 1: To before they merged, it was w c W and
Speaker 1: w w F. Then they merged, they made it what
Speaker 1: w w E. All right?
Speaker 3: So w w E came because w w F is
Speaker 3: the World Wide Wildlife Federation, so they had likely they
Speaker 3: lost a dispute to them, so they had to take
Speaker 3: the f and turn it in the E and it's
Speaker 3: it's sports entertainment. Like they didn't w w E don't
Speaker 3: they not?
Speaker 1: Like insane? Man, I told you, Jake, the snake was
Speaker 1: my nigga. Nigga put the snake on you word, then
Speaker 1: you had my man an the move? Still eat the turnbuckle.
Speaker 3: You know, niggas, you're judging real life.
Speaker 1: Nah, chill, But niggas, you know what a lot of
Speaker 1: these young niggas what the iron sheet move? Put a
Speaker 1: little nigga in the cammebel clutch. That nigga dropping his
Speaker 1: flag nigga Like I'm going straight, I would be a
Speaker 1: doctor down. What's that you did to me? Remember back
Speaker 1: in the day niggas was practicing the moves or niggas
Speaker 1: in the hood like put a little nigga in the
Speaker 1: campbell clutch.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that's how niggas was getting put to sleep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's my nigga? The ted dB man dollar dream
Speaker 1: on a niggas or my man? Damn when it was
Speaker 1: the fucking n w O. What's my man had to
Speaker 1: slick here with the tooth pick? Nah, that water juice,
Speaker 1: raise a ramot, put you in his young niggas dropping.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you'll get a young nigga to get
Speaker 1: out the game. Yo. That she came in with the
Speaker 1: bent up shoes and kicked ass.
Speaker 2: And she was like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like that, my nigga. That's what's up, man.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. You gave me your
Speaker 1: top five wrestlers, top five all time smoking rap niggas.
Speaker 2: Oh, nobody asking me that.
Speaker 3: I ain't no order. I'm gonna go With's Khalifa. He
Speaker 3: gotta be up there, Yeah, he up there. Currency of course,
Speaker 3: gotta be.
Speaker 2: Kiss kiss.
Speaker 3: Actually, I'm gonna put this, gotta put them together as
Speaker 3: a group, okay, kiss styles.
Speaker 2: I love smoking with them. Niggas ain't hearing stories. So
Speaker 2: that's that's three.
Speaker 1: You me. Oh shit, I'm in the Smoker Haulics.
Speaker 3: Four and then my fifth one, my fifth one, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna put dog in there because this nigga, Snoop. Always,
Speaker 3: for any time I ever smoke with this nigga, I'll
Speaker 3: be coughing and ship.
Speaker 1: I got beef with Snoop. It's up. It's up. Every
Speaker 1: time I see Snoop, it's up. That nigga. Only nigga
Speaker 1: smoked me out where I'm like, yo, fair, I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm too high. I can't smoke no more. Twice.
Speaker 1: You know how the first time it happened is like
Speaker 1: this shit ain't happening again. Next time I see this nigga,
Speaker 1: I don't care how many blunts you roll. This ship
Speaker 1: ain't happening again. And then I get up with him again,
Speaker 1: and I'm like.
Speaker 2: This happened again.
Speaker 1: Yo. I got a picture with Dazz and Snoop and Corrupt,
Speaker 1: and the fucking picture is so much smoke in the room.
Speaker 1: The smoke looked like it's posing with us for the
Speaker 1: flick war. My nigga, Snoop, it's on, it's up. He
Speaker 1: don't even know it's beef. He don't even know it's beef.
Speaker 1: It's up soon, it's up. Soon as I see you
Speaker 1: for her, I was waiting for you. I was gonna
Speaker 1: be like, no, Snoop. But then now my top my
Speaker 1: top five smoking rappers from my era. I gotta put
Speaker 1: you put a group. I gotta put the dog Pound,
Speaker 1: gotta put Snoop. I gotta put my nigga exhibit.
Speaker 3: Got to missing one that I I bunched all two
Speaker 3: niggas up together on the weed ship.
Speaker 1: Who else I gotta put up there? Man, I gotta
Speaker 1: put red in Meth as a group too. Without redding Meth,
Speaker 1: I be smoking sticks his seeds in my weed. I
Speaker 1: felt like Biggie was talking to me. I still pick
Speaker 1: seeds out your wied. I felt like that ship was
Speaker 1: a straight shot at me because I was at some
Speaker 1: show and I'm throwing that ship. And then I heard
Speaker 1: the verse and I'm like that nigga was talking. Biggie
Speaker 1: shitted on me. That was about me. Yeah, and Rad
Speaker 1: and Meth we got the LA and they was like
Speaker 1: what you're smoking on? And I showed them. They like,
Speaker 1: come on, little Bro came with me and they took
Speaker 1: me to the Homie and I got some ship and
Speaker 1: that changed my life. So they gotta go up there.
Speaker 1: Who else from my era that was a major smoker,
Speaker 1: fucking hauling.
Speaker 2: Mm see. I think about backstage when it was you and.
Speaker 1: Jah No Joe's smoke all it, but jo Yo. I
Speaker 1: love my bros. Man, I love you Joe, you know
Speaker 1: I love you, You my nigga. But Joe still smoke
Speaker 1: dispensary weed. He don't care like you know, his levels
Speaker 1: to this ship y'all, don't he don't care. He's smoking.
Speaker 1: It don't matter like Roland, he don't care. So that's
Speaker 1: why now no he up there, he'll honorary mentioned. But no,
Speaker 1: I don't care because you're my man. No, no, you're
Speaker 1: my man. Who else I'm trying to think because it's
Speaker 1: a few niggas that I done burnt it down where
Speaker 1: we done blazed it. Mm yo, this one I was
Speaker 1: left field. Niggas would never think paused in his name
Speaker 1: though it's twenty twenty six. To you, my bro, you
Speaker 1: might have to change your name. Miss the Cheeks, you
Speaker 1: definitely got to change your name. It's twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: I love you, my nigga. We can't call you mister Cheeks.
Speaker 1: Not in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: Nigga, I didn't even know he was a buddhahead like
Speaker 3: that what the lost boys?
Speaker 1: Yo? I was in Miami. One of the illest smoking
Speaker 1: sessions I had. I'm in Miami. It's me Miss the Cheeks,
Speaker 1: a corrupt wow like niggas would never think and know
Speaker 1: my niggas bro, like man Cheeks, you gotta pull up.
Speaker 1: We gotta talk about this new name. In twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: we readvanced, I'm blizzle. We changing his name. Fuck that,
Speaker 1: that's my dog. He gonna wanna fight me. We ain't
Speaker 1: see me because he from back in the day. You know,
Speaker 1: niggas be like that, or see you and be like, yo,
Speaker 1: you owe me five minutes. You owe me five minutes.
Speaker 1: You know, see you and be like yo, five minutes.
Speaker 2: I ain't got nothing to do with.
Speaker 1: Nah, but cheeks up there. He'll smoking ass nigga too. Man.
Speaker 1: I gotta put him up there because he blowed down
Speaker 1: heavy with your boy. Word Another thing, man, what's your
Speaker 1: take on the direction you feel New York music scene
Speaker 1: is going.
Speaker 2: Shit.
Speaker 3: That's a tough question because I want to take myself
Speaker 3: out of it and answer it non bias. I think
Speaker 3: it's it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm not really a fan of.
Speaker 3: Drill music like that, but I respect any you know,
Speaker 3: anybody getting money from the craft, and it's art, artists art.
Speaker 1: I think the way you might want to say it
Speaker 1: is the way I say it. I'm a fan of
Speaker 1: drill music, just not the actual real crime you're rapping
Speaker 1: about that in the music, because if it's a real crime,
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Now. I feel like an informant.
Speaker 1: You told me too much information, Like my daughter say,
Speaker 1: t M, I.
Speaker 3: You know, but but you know, I'm a fan of
Speaker 3: I'm a fan of people that's saying something.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So I like artists like Fergie Baby, I like I
Speaker 3: like jay.
Speaker 2: Wan, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I like cock Cash, I like Jimmy Badass Joey.
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying, And obviously you know Griselda clearly yo.
Speaker 1: The niggas I told I seen Bennie in Atlanta. I
Speaker 1: told that Nigga. Yah, niggas gotta have a plantation where
Speaker 1: y'all breathing these fucking artists like mutants like it gotta
Speaker 1: be because come on, man, how you just find it?
Speaker 1: Thirty eight stove God Like? First of all, we're still
Speaker 1: dealing with west Side Bennie. You know, we ain't even
Speaker 1: digest ya niggas yet, and y'all coming with new niggas now.
Speaker 3: But the ill part is the niggas that you name,
Speaker 3: They've been around what I'm saying, Like Nigga, I got
Speaker 3: a record with Special six me Special Nipsey so special
Speaker 3: jumping YEA rest in peace was man.
Speaker 1: He was on his way. Bron every time I listen
Speaker 1: to that album, I'm like he was he was so
Speaker 1: he was that close taking this whole shit over. Bro,
Speaker 1: It's crazy the US up word. So another question, right,
Speaker 1: because you know how a lot of rappers be like,
Speaker 1: I'm not a rapper, I'm a hustler. I'm a hustler
Speaker 1: that rap. So do you feel like you're a rapper
Speaker 1: with a brand or do you feel like you're a
Speaker 1: brand that just raped ship?
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I'm both.
Speaker 3: I'm both, you know, regardless rapping out, I'm gonna find
Speaker 3: some way to get some money.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: Hustler baby, So that's that's the hustler spirit. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm a hallom nigga. Figure it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the all the all the work. Yeah, all
Speaker 1: the work, Harlem all day. You couldn't even walk two steps,
Speaker 1: got it right? Your poppy poppy rights fiscal Bobby right,
Speaker 1: poppy like nigga, I came to buy some sneaker. Fuck,
Speaker 1: I don't want no coke today.
Speaker 3: They don't get hit with the rabbit food, you know, Jesus,
Speaker 3: that real zip and then go in the building, hit
Speaker 3: you the rabbit food, come out a.
Speaker 2: Whole nother building.
Speaker 3: You be looking for that nigga for three years, so
Speaker 3: you give up like it was just four hundred. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, but I'm both, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Because I'm also I'm definitely a rapper, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. Like it's like niggas that be on the Internet,
Speaker 3: in the Internet nigga. You made announcement on the Internet.
Speaker 1: You are Internet nigga.
Speaker 3: So I'm definitely a rapper.
Speaker 2: That's a fact, man.
Speaker 1: Respect man. So when it's all said and done and
Speaker 1: you're chilling, got that Jay grand kids running around, because
Speaker 1: you might be on Jay's by, they might not be
Speaker 1: a blood. You might get a paper game. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Me too, I might be there with you,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. It's it's hard, It's difficult, But
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. What you want your legacy
Speaker 1: to be outside of just being a Harlem, New York rapper,
Speaker 1: what do you want people to remember? Smoke for.
Speaker 2: Somebody that put that shit on, somebody that.
Speaker 3: Somebody that was authentic to his mission and just to himself,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, A.
Speaker 2: Wordsmith, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: And uh, just somebody that never I never hit the plug,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like I'm always.
Speaker 3: I'm always uh, I'm always giving somebody a link, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not trying to hide the plug.
Speaker 3: I've always shared my platform with anybody that was around me.
Speaker 3: So somebody that gave back, you know what I mean
Speaker 3: to the culture. And then you know, anytime, like I said,
Speaker 3: I said this in another interview, but this is about
Speaker 3: to be my shiit. Anytime you smoke some good weed,
Speaker 3: thank you to God.
Speaker 1: Oh that's what's up man? Hell yeah, man? What's one
Speaker 1: thing you It's a question people ask me. So I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure the right way to ask you that
Speaker 1: you felt like and I took this thing from zero
Speaker 1: to a hundred that you're most proud of that you
Speaker 1: look back and say, this is exactly how I planned it.
Speaker 2: Wow, I think the smoke does a brand.
Speaker 3: Mm well, I mean that's definitely something I took from
Speaker 3: zero to one hundred. Whereas, like you know, sometimes when
Speaker 3: I'm telling stories and I'm like, damn, that really fucking happened.
Speaker 3: I mean, cause it's like I never sat with something
Speaker 3: for a little while, and it was just like I
Speaker 3: never celebrated a move for more than a day of
Speaker 3: it happening like the next day. I'm like, I'm trying
Speaker 3: to do new I'm trying to create new history. So
Speaker 3: I think the Smoke does a brand from zero to
Speaker 3: one hundred to see where it came with, where I
Speaker 3: started and where I'm at today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm proud of that.
Speaker 1: That's what's up? Man? What's so? What's next? Man? What's next?
Speaker 1: What could people expect? What's next from Smoke? Man? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like what you got, what you're
Speaker 1: working on? What people should expect? Like? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six is the year the horse Man?
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, money for sure.
Speaker 3: I mean definitely more music. I think I'm winding down
Speaker 3: with the music a little bit. I think I'm a
Speaker 3: I'm like on like a three year watch. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: give or take, but definitely more music. Trying to collab
Speaker 3: with everybody that I love and respect. We need to
Speaker 3: get that uh, that blizzling dissititate.
Speaker 1: Let's do it man, Man, I'm working you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean?
Speaker 3: And you know obviously don't smoke rock too with Pete Rock.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I got a crazy record that I'm about to drop
Speaker 3: with we talk about three with with three.
Speaker 2: Of the people that niggas love. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just say I got a record with a
Speaker 3: Currency West and Max b Oh, I'm gonna kick the
Speaker 3: year off. I mean so by the time, by the
Speaker 3: time this interview dropped that joint and be out.
Speaker 2: And then Fourth Rope. You know what I mean. Fourth
Speaker 2: Rope is really what That's what I need everybody to
Speaker 2: be invested in.
Speaker 1: Fourth turn jump off. Fourth.
Speaker 2: I got my flyweight champion and this guy right.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, come on man, no chair, what's up?
Speaker 2: I love man, Champion, take your jewelry.
Speaker 1: Man, the real the real one, give an opportunity to
Speaker 1: pro wrestles all over the place. It's been a blessing
Speaker 1: for us for real. So Real One just showing love.
Speaker 1: Appreciate y'all love talking about wrestlings. That's right, man, tag
Speaker 1: had you know karate and yea, these guys have been
Speaker 1: throwing wrestlers in their bars, so they got their own promotion.
Speaker 1: Now that's right out here. Hustling, man, work hard, that's right, man,
Speaker 1: definitely man.
Speaker 2: Mother fucking brother, the real one.
Speaker 3: But yeah, get on YouTube, subscribe to Fourth Rope, follow
Speaker 3: us on Instagram. Make sure you pull up to one
Speaker 3: of the shows. Can get some of that good merch.
Speaker 3: Can catch the real one live, catch the Hardy Boys,
Speaker 3: I Tag Team shipping his live cat Zilla to our
Speaker 3: World Champion live, and then the whole fourth Rope roster.
Speaker 3: I'm hoping to have you there this year.
Speaker 2: Tried to get it last year.
Speaker 1: Man, there I'm there right cheat Joe in the day.
Speaker 2: Now we go, We're gonna get it right.
Speaker 3: But yeah, man, just expect all cool ship man, cool
Speaker 3: authentic original.
Speaker 2: Culture ship man.
Speaker 1: That's exactly why I fuck with you, bro, That's why
Speaker 1: you're a solid nigga. Man. You always gonna be family. Man.
Speaker 1: We need more cool niggas in the world's fake tough
Speaker 1: guy ship. Please stop, or we're gonna have a nigga
Speaker 1: throw you off the fourth rope on your hand, nigga, Please,
Speaker 1: you know what it is. It's rock solid Ducey Ji.
Speaker 3: Oh, shout out, Charlie Man, Josh Bishop, Joe Alonso.
Speaker 1: You already know he's silent, this rock solid smoke dizzer
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