WEBVTT - Smoke DZA | ROC Solid w/ Memphis Bleek 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:00.400 Yo. 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:03.120 Finally we're here Drink Chances, the fourth Annual. 0:00:02.800 --> 0:00:04.840 Black Effect Podcast Festivals. 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:06.920 We're gonna be there, No, we's gonna tear it up. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:08.480 You know there's a lot of black people there, so 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:09.360 you listen to the deep. 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:09.800 Black as hell. 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:10.880 Hey from twenty fifth. 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:12.440 Atlanta, Georgia. Please go get your tickets. 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:14.520 I'm telling you, go get your tickets. I know how 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:16.919 this happening. I've been going there. It's been going there, 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:17.720 You've been going there. 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:19.640 Go get your tickets. He's going down. 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:24.000 Drink Champs, fourth Annual Black Effect, Black Black, Black, Black Effect, 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:28.440 Dot Cost Slash Podcast Festivals. What up, y'all? This is 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.560 your main man, Memphis Bleak right here. Welcome to Rock Solid, 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.920 a production of iHeartRadio and the Black Effect Network in 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:41.120 partnership with my guys over at Drink Champs. You should 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:51.879 nobody knows. You should nobody knows. Yeah, yeah, y'all, you 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:55.120 already know what it is. Yours truly, m Greasy myth 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:59.160 Blizzle back in the building with another Rock Solid exclusive. 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:03.720 Got my brother here, my smoke partner. We should be 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:08.080 Smoke Champs, man, Young Relly ching binging up. It might 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:10.600 be smoke after this one, but you know, I got 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.520 my dog, Smoked Dizzer in the building with me. What's 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:14.280 up my guy? 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.800 Come on man, good pla ain't fighting the go one. 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.880 That's right man, Happy New Year, my brother, Happy New Year. 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.680 Singing y'all all out there at that wrestle MANI your 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.399 wrestling fast man. You know what I'm saying. What made 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.280 y'all get it? How did that even connect? 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:32.640 Like, you know, first and foremost shout out to my 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:33.800 brother west side Gun. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:39.479 Oh wait o, Lord, they bad the gun. They said, 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.559 you can't ban the snowman. How they banded the gun? 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:48.120 You know, you know, I'm gonna save that part of 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:52.240 the story for him to tell it. But you know, 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:57.960 we've been making some waves and shit got a little complicated. 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:01.560 I mean, so they did do my brother dirty on 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:03.480 that on that note, you know what I mean. But 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.120 we got into it, like you know, we since we 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:11.440 was kids. We love wrestling and being grown and being 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.959 able to actually purchase tickets. And some of these guys 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.560 are actual friends, you know, we support so we always 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:23.640 was front row at WrestleMania's or whatever. The premium main 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:27.880 event was a w ship t NA, but we got 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:29.440 the opportunity to do our own thing. 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:31.520 So you know we got fourth rope. 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.880 That's what's up man. That's dope, man. Congratulations on that 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:38.079 bro Tian hip hop and the wrestling was I ain't 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.320 never thought, but like you said, as a kid, we 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.440 always was in there with come on man, they had 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:49.520 what was my man animal steallna, my nigga got big 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.560 jaw stuff, all traded giant. You know what I'm saying. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.040 That's when I was in there with Coco b Wad. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.600 That's the ever that introduced me to wrestling. 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.440 My nigga, We all was a little niggas practicing that 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.800 shit on our little cousins like brothers like this, jumping 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:11.519 off the couch, elbowed in a neck nigga. Noah, that's 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.880 true man, that's what's up man. So you're doing the 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:17.360 music thing, man, what was to come up the moment 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.880 that you was like, let me get in, let me 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:21.639 take this music shit serious man. 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.120 Well, you know I came up in a battle circuit, 0:03:26.120 --> 0:03:28.880 in a battle circuit, but it was way before it 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:32.200 got commercial, wait, before the cameras really started to play 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.920 a part to it. But you know that gave me confidence. 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:37.880 But I when I really took it serious, I want 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:43.040 to say, it's uh hm hmm. I think once I 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:47.080 started writing for other people and getting some of those 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:48.320 ass cap checks. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.440 Ship, that a change that to make everything here. 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.400 That made my parents take me serious, you know what 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:54.640 I mean. 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:57.800 So that was why they're always the first haters. Yo. 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:00.920 That's literally your first group of haters, your moms or 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:05.680 your pops, like your brother all that they the first crazy. 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.920 But you know it was I was trying a lot 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:10.600 of shit, you know what I mean. And you know 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:13.240 my parents is is West Indians. So they wanted me 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:15.360 to get a job. Go get a job. 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:16.679 What are you doing? 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:20.839 Like it looked like I was just jerking wreck until 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:23.839 they've seen something, they seen my name on it. 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.040 It was like okay, oh yeah keep doing that. 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.400 Yeah you should pay all they want to make sure 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:29.160 that you got paid. 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.640 Yeah, like you figured it out after that. You know, 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.960 they've been on they've been on board ship. They're my 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:35.719 biggest fans. 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:38.760 Oh yeah, they become That's how all the haters off. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:39.760 Yo. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:46.760 Listen. My theory. My theory is the hater is your 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.680 biggest fan because they have to know everything about you 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:50.360 to hate you. 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:51.359 That's a fact. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.880 So they are your biggest fans in hindsight, you know 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.200 what I'm saying. So we gotta love it. And moms 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.920 and pops. You know, my mom's no, she was telling 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.520 me put them wraps down, now do that homework. Now 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:07.320 she looking like pick the fucking right what you're doing. 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:09.680 Did you talk about you in the pool? 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.360 Yeah? Yeah, my mom. 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.719 My mom's ain't she like you know, she's she's just happy. 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.120 I'm doing my own thing. My pops passed, but before 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:22.040 before he did, he was definitely my biggest fan. He'll 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.760 be mad at me, but he'll run into somebody and 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.080 I'll be the first person he Yo, you know smoke, doesn't. 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:30.080 He that's my son? That's right. He was proud. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:31.480 He was super proud. 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:32.840 That's all you want to do. That's all you want 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:34.960 to do is make your parents proud. Man. That's what sure. 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:39.320 So I might have this miscon screw out. Did you 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.800 did dipset put you in the industry? You got on 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:43.800 through them or a different Now? 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.360 I sol shites bub shout out to my. 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:52.400 Brother Purple City, right right. You know I always had 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.400 the haze on them always. He was the one that 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.040 introduced me to real weed. You know. 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.960 Yeah, for sure that way back in here, Da s 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.400 is for sure pivotal and and getting me a part 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.560 of the system, you know what I mean, and teaching 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:10.200 me how ship works. And I met Shies through Johnny Ships. 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.080 That's you know, that's the first person actually gave me 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:14.280 a shot, you know what I mean. 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.520 And around I want to. 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.920 Say, oh four oh five, like the tail end of 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.359 what everybody knew Purple City to be with ag and 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:26.720 unlike you know, they was drifting off and doing their 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:27.160 own thing. 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:34.200 The second nicest nigga with glasses up straight up, rest 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:36.760 of peace, my man, Batman was the first nigga with 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:39.760 glasses man that he was nice. And then when I 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.560 sing un constant where he came out, I'm like, damn, 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:43.279 that's crazy. 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:45.919 He's a rapping ass nigga. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.000 Word up, he's a rapper man. 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.360 He's a rappers rapper for sure. For sure, I came 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.440 in the tail end of that. And you know, Shites 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.000 is still pivotal in my career today, you know what 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.360 I mean, Like, that's. 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:00.600 He's doing this thing in the wee game man, right, sure, 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:02.800 that's what man. He was out here winning a round 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:04.400 with them. That's when it was piff. 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.320 He actually made the word piff in the in the 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:11.680 Urban Dictionary is made by Shit's buff. 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:15.600 So no fucking way, man, that's what's up man. So 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.480 how did that link bridge the gap for you to 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:25.120 link with currency? Man? A man burned up man. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:27.120 That's a good question. 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.000 And I want to say, like nine, when we started, 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:35.360 like doing south By Southwest. 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:37.240 Damn, I was the first ones doing that. 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:38.320 It was out there. 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.400 That's around when it first started old Yeah. 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.400 Yeah, and we had the Smokers Club that was our 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:49.320 brand that we was pushing at the time, and we 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.080 did our first show in south By Southwest and spit 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.200 It was on that show. Whiz was on that show, 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.200 Jay Rock and Kendrick Lamar was on that show. Big 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:59.760 Crit was on that show, and you know that started 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:03.800 our brotherhood. But the first time I actually met Spitner 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:07.120 was when he was on the Freshman cover and I 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.840 think that was a little before we did south By 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:14.680 Southwest and it was a session with Mickey Fax. And 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:16.760 this is when Spitter was smoking blunts. I know he 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:21.320 don't want to hear that, but smoking blunts, you know 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.640 what I'm saying. Yeah, he was the first to the 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:25.720 conversion of the Paper Paper. 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:26.280 Gang but. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:32.280 To answer the question, you know, going to south By Southwest, 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:36.679 that's what started the button brotherhood of all of us. 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:39.000 And that's how I really like started kicking it. 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.160 And then you know, moving to Dame, you know what 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.440 I mean, when Dame had d D one seventy two, 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:45.199 that's where we. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:49.400 Really Oh yeah, I remember he was fucking with Dame. Yeah. Man, 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:55.680 Dame and Spinner had drama too, yo, Chill, I forgot 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:56.959 about that. Yo. 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.800 I'm pretty sure they're good now, of course, you know, 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:04.040 but yeah, that's where we really was, like you know, 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:06.680 cutting records and just run around the city and just 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:07.440 you know, kmarate. 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:11.280 We really got built, dud. That was the foundation, man. 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:14.080 That's what's something. Man, currency a good dude. Man, I 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:15.719 was supposed to go out there to New Orleans and 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.400 funk with him. I'm gonna make it out there real soon. Man, 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.079 he got a Taple movie, trust me. I know by 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:26.640 g fucking you from a legendary you know, every borough 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.800 in New York got they Spinners got their legendary history. 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:35.960 Top dogs like being from Harlem though, Like that's that's 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.960 a lot of pressure because y'all put a lot of 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.240 people came out of Harlem Man. You know what I'm saying. 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.960 Might it's too many to name, but you know, the 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:48.800 elite main niggas mas like puffing from Harlem. But I 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.920 don't know how he adapted Harlem. You know what I'm saying, 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.440 I don't know how to happen the locks too. Lots 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.880 from Yonkers if they adapt their Halem too. Y'all cheating 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:02.080 my niggas is stealing artist. So we're gonna talk about 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:06.120 that on another episode. How harllm be just stealing niggas nigga? Yeah, 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:10.080 all them to you because it's love. It is, you 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.559 know it is. I'm not hating, but I'm just saying. 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.280 We never took a queen's nigga, just like he's Brooklyn. 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:21.040 Queens took Brooklyn niggas they took, Yeah, niggas definitely think 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:22.280 a z fro queens. 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.240 I want to say, yeah, y'all, lord, y'all lost some 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:26.560 y'all lost a few of the queens. 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:29.160 You know what I'm saying. Niggas took niggas jack, But. 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:32.080 It's love, you know, you know, it's it's a five 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.320 Borough thing when we're out of New York. But you know, 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.520 queens get the money. You know Harlem. You know what 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.840 we do in Brooklyn. You know how y'all niggas give 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.520 it up and then shout out to the brook. 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.800 No more we making it Brooklyn, keep on making it. 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.720 Were making it now. We got new mentality, y'all. I mean, 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.400 it's twenty twenty six. We gotta get this money, baby, 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:55.559 you know what I'm saying. 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:56.360 I'm saying. 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.880 But like I said, being from Harlem, you got May's 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:04.360 dip set. Cam. You know, Cam is dip set fucking 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:12.080 the locks. Big, you know, Big Al McGrath. It's a 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:15.400 lot of legendary spiders, too many to name, too many, man, 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.400 But like, what was the pressure like for you to 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.280 at your name in that historical line up? 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:25.280 Because you know, Bliss, it never really was no pressure 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:28.240 to be honest, because you know, I knew where I 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.400 was from, but I also knew, you know, I had 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:34.840 my own path to make and lead. So like, I 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:38.200 think it gave me more of a confidence to be 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.360 a part of the group of names that you said, 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:44.240 instead of really having pressure, because you know, when I'm 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.160 everywhere I go, I'm waving a flag of Harlem, and 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.640 obviously you know I'm a New York nigga. So I 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.000 got a lot of friends that's from the South and 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.320 the Midwest and the West Coast. So, you know, being 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.320 a Harlem nigga, I always stand out because when niggas 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.600 ask me where where I'm from, I say, that's right 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:01.360 to say New York. 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:05.040 That's right. Nobody says it's crazy. You could be in 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.200 another country and you're like, yo, where you're from. Niggas 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:08.360 say they borrow. 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:10.800 You know what I mean, Let them figure out where 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.800 that's Oh, New York. Yeah, you know what I mean. 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.800 So I think it gave me more of a confidence 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.240 instead of a pressure to actually like live up to 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:23.040 what other niggas was doing, because I feel like I 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.360 not even I feel, I know, like I came. 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:27.199 Up in it in the Internet era, you know what 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:27.480 I mean. 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:33.480 So it's completely different to how you know, the guys 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.000 that trailblazed the way came up, you know what I mean. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:40.800 So, man, listen, y'all killed this. Listen. I go to 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.400 my streams, I go to my Spotify and look at 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.679 my old albums and be like, oh, my ship was 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.160 weak on here, and then you look at me like 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.800 they like, damn, but I went gold. The foot traffic 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:55.040 was good, niggas digital traffic was bad. But for y'all 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.080 to come up in that new era, y'all paving the 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.160 way now for the like my next thingment whatever, go 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:05.520 into the other brand deals, the merchandise, the the weed brands, 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:09.280 like everything. How was that? Because I feel like you 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.960 want of the main, like the main only artists in 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:16.200 New York that really maintained his brand outside of music 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.719 where it's not just about music. When they spoke, when 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:20.920 they speak, smoke dizzer right, you know what I'm saying. 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:22.200 You know what's ill blizzled? 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.760 Like I was talking to Rob Mark mean years ago, 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:27.360 like cause I used to be thirsty to get on 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.400 a Freshman cover Like that was like something that I 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.400 had to have back then, and I never got it 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.720 and all my friends got it, like niggas that was 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.880 next to me, niggas that came up under me. I 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.120 used to be like, what do niggas got against me? 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.959 And then Rob told me it wasn't what people had 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.360 against me. It was like yo, like what are you 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.920 doing outside of rap? Like you gotta have something else 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.480 other than rap to make a story for real this day? 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:55.160 Like yeah you nice, Yeah you talk that shit, but 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.920 what else? And from that day I was always thinking 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.120 about my what else because it got to be more 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:06.880 than just you know, rap, It's business, you know. 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:07.200 What I mean. 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:13.240 So putting all those components around, like the weed, the wrestling, 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.040 the fly ship, you know what I mean, Like it's 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:20.320 it's all different brands and ways that I could compartmentalize 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:23.200 and make money off these things. So I think just 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:27.240 having that mentality made it a little easier for me 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.680 to develop ship and actually keep it going. And obviously 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.200 I can't do it by myself because nothing great happens alone. 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.400 I mean, so I had a lot of partners along 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:37.440 the way and I still do. 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.360 So, you know, just taking that serious. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.400 You can making my notes look like I'm Steven a 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.680 blessing because every time you say something, I look down. 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.680 I'm like, yeah, that's going into my next note. K 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:54.920 I need an ESPN spot. 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:56.160 Now you're at this. 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.680 He's really good at this. Good look. And I was 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.360 gonna say, because you know, you said your business mind like, 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:06.240 that's what I was gonna say, because these kids out 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:10.240 here today don't really understand how important ownership is. Man Like, 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.840 speak to them about hindpoint ownership is behind your brand 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.280 and how that shapes your like your mentality shaped about 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.480 that because if you don't own nothing, then you're just 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.400 doing all the footwork as a slave trader. 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.720 And you know, because the ill part is you learn 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.440 how important ownership is. 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.760 Not owner shit, you know what I'm saying, right, and 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.040 ownership and I learned. I learned the hardway. 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:36.360 I learned from you know, just being impulsive and doing 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.120 shit when you just see that one number and you 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.120 just got to get to that, and just being impulsive 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.600 instead of just being like, you know what, own money 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.640 ain't good money and if I wait, I can get 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:51.960 triple at quadruple that. But you know, being young and 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:56.160 having a family, it makes you impulsive, especially being an artist, 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.680 a nigga from New York that got to keep up, 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.160 you know what I mean. At the beginning, I made 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:05.840 a lot of impulsive decisions that made me have to learn, 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.800 you fee what I'm saying. So going through that hitting 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.840 my head a couple of times, I was like, all right, 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:15.880 doing the same shit over and over and expecting different results. 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:19.560 This is insanity and I'm not a crazy nigga. So 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.800 slowed this down a little bit and focus on one 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.600 thing and then build a team around me to make 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:29.240 sure that these things don't happen against That's a fact. 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:30.680 Owning is very important. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.120 That's a fact. All these kids, they be so quick 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:36.040 they see the dollar. Yeah, don't think about the end results. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:40.840 That's how it all. My theory is, if somebody ready 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.760 to give you something up front, what they making on 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.360 the back end, how much is it worth you? Feel me? 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.480 Because nothing is free. If you're gonna give me this, 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.560 then I mean you got a profit. You're not giving 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.840 me this money to lose. You gotta think about it 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:56.720 that way. So you know, that's my thing when I 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.240 talk to these young boys about all that, Like you 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.800 was the first I heard, like, you know, when you 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:06.000 listen to the Southern rappers, like the pemp Seas, the 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:10.040 scar Faces, the you know, even out west and the Bay, 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.000 a lot of the Bay areas had that you know, chill, 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:17.480 the smoke adelic vibe, the like the pimp field you like, 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:21.919 I feel like the first East Coast consistent artists with 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:28.960 that as hell? Do you feel like you get enough 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.080 credit for that, for your contribution on the East Side 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:33.440 for that? 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.480 Oh damn, that's a good question, bro. 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:44.040 No, But to hear niggas like you say that when 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.760 I'm talking to niggas like kiss you know what I mean, 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:50.880 and other the niggas that I grew up on that 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:53.639 y'all inspired me. When I hear from y'all and let 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:55.639 me know, Okay, you're doing it right, you know what 0:17:55.640 --> 0:18:00.960 I mean? And nah, I don't feel like I get 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:03.119 that credit. But at the end of the day, my 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.280 story's still going. So I'm just I'm pushing. I'm not 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.640 really looking for the praise either, like, but to get 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.560 the acknowledgement, it's always it's always good to know that 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.200 I'm on my path, you know what I mean. 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:19.280 So I'm a firm believer whether one or one million, right, 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.960 because one could tell a million facts, you know what 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.880 I mean. So I'm a firm believer of that man 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:28.760 one person listening and know and see and can tell. 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:32.480 That's so all you need, man and integrity is everything. 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:34.360 You can hear it in the music. Niggas know when 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.720 you you authentic or you're faking it. 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:38.159 You know what I'm saying, see it because you know 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.760 when the cameras ain't on, can't fake were full sizing 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.880 everybody up the right, Are you really what you say 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:44.280 you are. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.639 That's the shit. Social media giving advantage to the to 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.600 y'all with where and out there you can hide a nigga. 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:54.280 A lot of these artists hid behind the Double Excel interview, 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.880 the saucemag interview. They video and then the camera cut off. 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.400 You never see these guys again. So to you as 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.000 a fan, you like, oh, he with that ship, and 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:07.520 then social media come out and you're like, wait a minute, 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:12.640 hold on niggas mushing this hood like he can't even 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.359 get out the car to go to the store, Like 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:19.040 wait one second. Like social media ruined it for a 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:20.920 lot of niggas from my era, but I feel like 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:23.760 they enhanced it for a lot of niggas for your. 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:25.959 Yeah, because the niggas from or some of the niggas 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.199 from my era, we just know that, you know, you 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.720 don't gotta be if you're not. I'm not a tough guy, 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:33.840 that's right. You fee what I'm saying, Like, that's not the. 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.880 Coolest rule the world. 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:39.720 Maybe you feel me, So I'm just like, you know, 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:44.359 I'm gonna always be unapologetically me because that's all I 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:45.240 know how to do. 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.000 Now, do I get angry? Yeah, nigga I'm human, you 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.320 know what I'm saying. So you know, niggas get mad. 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:53.359 But at the same time, I know how to carry 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:58.119 myself on social media because I know it's other people watching. 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:00.520 Like my kids follow me on social media. My niece 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:03.040 followed me, like, you know, I got I got kids 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:04.800 that's looking at me. 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:06.200 Yeah. 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.520 So it's like anytime I pull them in my stories, 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:10.640 my kids is the first person, the first people there. 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:11.760 So that's a fact. 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.600 I know I'm being watched. And not only that the 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:16.480 world is watching, you know what I mean, it's people 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:18.760 watching me that I've never seen a day in my life. 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:20.879 So I got to make sure that you know, I 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.560 represent the right way for my family at the very least, 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:24.080 you know what I mean. 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.320 That's a fact. That's a fact. Do you feel like 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:29.800 let me ask you in your opinion, because I get 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:32.840 this question a lot. People always ask me what project 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:36.600 or what record you feel like best represents you or 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:38.040 tell a story about you. 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:41.879 I would say an album. 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:46.160 I say my album with Pete Rock, Don't Smoke Rockete. 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:51.439 That was that was like the catalyst to me, like 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.000 being recognized by people I really. 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:54.280 Look up to. 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.119 You know, Pete Rock is a legend. 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.119 Because it was like, nigga, you got an album with 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:02.440 Pete Rock, how did you do it? 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:03.080 Fact? 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:05.720 I mean so, And Pete was like my Phil Jackson, 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:09.040 Like I was in the studio for every song with 0:21:09.119 --> 0:21:12.160 Pete and Pete will be like, nah, do it over? 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.120 Mmm you need Yeah. 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:18.200 He will push back like no know about that. Oh no, 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:20.520 that's that's it right there. Don't do nothing else. 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:23.600 And he was allowing me to challenge him like, nah. 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:26.119 Pete, I know you know everybody loved the drums, but 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:28.480 let's hold the drums on this one. He's like, you 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:30.200 know what, We're gonna name the song hold of Drums. 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:33.200 And that's like one of my most popular songs. 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:37.399 That's crazy, hold the drum. I told my niggas cheat 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:41.520 album gonna be called it's cheat fall. It's cheat fault. 0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:44.600 It's your Fall'm in here rapping this ship. Man, you 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:47.280 did this ship. It's your fault. So if they say 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:50.760 it's whack, it's cheat fault. If it's lick, it's back. 0:21:52.640 --> 0:22:03.680 I still cheat fun yo, like doing the brand and 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:06.879 the hip hop shit man, Like how do you stay 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:15.399 focused on different my high words get fucked up? Keeping 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:19.840 it separated like one from the other because I'm gonna 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.119 tell you I've been in this business. I had the 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:25.080 brands get low I done, have the brand Cush Gang. 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:27.840 You know, we got the rock Salid moving, we got 0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:30.480 the weed brand mind right. And I ain't got one 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:36.480 T shirt on nobody nothing because I'm not from that era. 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:40.280 You know, at Rockefeller we had somebody that did that. 0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:43.080 A whole department. You go down there and tell them, yo, 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:46.000 I want this done. You had boxes of T shirts 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.480 next week in the office waiting for you. You came 0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:51.639 up with a logo, you sent it downstairs, Bobby Dash, 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:56.399 run that shit downstairs. Boxes of hatbands, hats, T shirts 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:59.160 was waiting. So I never knew where to go out 0:22:59.200 --> 0:23:02.719 and get that plug that footwork for that. It's not 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:04.240 like the capsule spot. 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:07.760 See for us. 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:10.760 You know, I just utilize my buddy system, you know 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:14.400 what I mean, And like how I separate it is, 0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:17.920 sometimes you can't separate it. Sometimes the worlds just meet 0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:20.479 regardless as much as you try to separate them. Sometimes 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:24.040 it just makes sense to you know, cross brands certain things. 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:26.879 But I lean on my buddy system, you know what 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:30.080 I mean, Like, what good is your comrades if you 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:31.199 can't utilize them. 0:23:31.240 --> 0:23:33.440 It's not using them, it's utilizing them, like. 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:36.720 You know, Like for instance, West makes some of the 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:39.600 best merch in hip hop, if not the best merch. 0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.440 I wear his shit like I wear Blendciago, Gucci or. 0:23:43.359 --> 0:23:44.520 Anything else, you know what I mean. 0:23:44.560 --> 0:23:48.160 My man Steven Quasi, they got killoff season, the lever 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:51.040 shit I'm always and I'm wearing that shit. I'm paying 0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:53.160 top dollar too, you know what I mean. The same 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:55.400 way how I'm gonna spend with any of these other brands. 0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:58.480 It's not only to support my friends, but I like 0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:02.320 fly shit and I'm gonna utilize them niggas too the same. 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:03.160 Way, you know what I mean. 0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:07.440 So it's like you gotta you gotta build your farm 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:11.119 of people around you and all y'all. You know, we 0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:13.199 all feed off each other like we you know, we 0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:15.320 don't charge each other for features and no shit like that. 0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:18.320 Like nigga, We just working. 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:20.760 Keeping it, pushing, keeping it in the family is really 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:22.480 like the black dollar when you think about it, you 0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:23.840 know what I mean, We keep it in the family, 0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:25.320 we always gonna expand it. 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:28.119 That's what's up That bring me to a story. I 0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:30.879 remember being a young nigga. Right. It was probably like 0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:34.600 about twenty one, twenty two, and I'm walking in this 0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:37.639 is when we did h We was in Death Jam office, 0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:41.920 Rockefeller on fifty yeah, and I'm walking in the building 0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:44.000 coming in there. I got two three of my niggas 0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:46.320 with me, Jay coming out, and I'm like, yo, ho, 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.879 what's uthing? Man? I need I need more radio support. 0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:50.920 I'm telling this, nigga, I need niggas. You know this 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:53.600 when the merch the label wasn't the same Rockefeller. This 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:56.439 was at the tail end where you put that call in. 0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:59.359 It wasn't boxes and T shirts waiting no more, you 0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:01.359 know what I mean. And he was like, Yo, you 0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:03.960 gotta get your niggas to move around and start. You know, 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:06.199 none of your niggas got no plays. None of these 0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:08.640 niggas know how to move around. So I'm looking at 0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.639 my niggas like, now all my niggas know how to do? 0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:15.520 Is is? Shoot? It's that nigga was like, then you 0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:19.520 need new niggas. So I'm looking at him like, Nigga, 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.439 I can't get rid of by these my niggas, my 0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:26.000 childhood friends. I can't fork them for only knowing how 0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:28.919 to hold it down, and he was like, but we 0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.800 don't got no beef. Niggas don't neither Holy down or 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:40.320 nigga have to think like damn, even my new niggas 0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:46.920 ain't make no merch. I ain't got some new niggas. 0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:53.120 They ain't make no yo. They Florida at the range learning. 0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:58.680 Nigga. They preparing like if you go that, oh man, 0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:00.520 I gotta send you some Marco blizzle. 0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:02.240 Just I see you the mock up some way to 0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:02.800 get it done. 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.119 Just go come hold me down, man, put me in 0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:09.040 the game. Yo. The merch ship got you, I got you. 0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:13.280 We slipping dog you that nigga burn The man told me, yo, bro, 0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:15.720 I make I don't even want to you know you 0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:19.280 sometimes you're like talking personal conversations you because then they won't 0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:19.960 talk to you again. 0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:21.880 Bernie like that now killing him. 0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:24.560 He is destroying them. 0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:28.879 Niggas in a wheelchair right now performing though the niggas. 0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:31.280 I think he tores fibula and some ship like. 0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:35.240 No, niggas ain't even athletic. How you do that? A blank? 0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:42.719 You can't smoke a blood? Turn the fi yo? 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:42.719 Yo? 0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:43.280 Are you well? 0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:43.480 So? 0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:47.399 How you rolling up in the. 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:52.080 Yo. 0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:57.080 Niggas is not athletic. Those are like sports injuries. While 0:26:57.160 --> 0:26:58.119 nigga like, Yo. 0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.240 When I see that, I was like, how the fuck 0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.159 did he do that? But I've seen him on the internet. 0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:03.960 But then I also seen him in front of like 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:07.040 thousand people, Like last night, I said, get. 0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:11.080 Better, my nigga, Man, get the fib right. Damn. I 0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:14.160 remember I broke my ship Man in Miami got hit 0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:16.199 by a cab riding them scooters and they had to 0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:19.320 do summer jam in the wheelchair. I thought I was Big, 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.520 because God, my blessed. I seen when Big got his 0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:24.359 car accident. He had a show and he had the 0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:27.560 girl wheeling him around. So I thought I'd do that 0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:32.880 as summer jam. It wasn't that legend It wasn't that legendary. 0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:33.920 No one remembers. 0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:38.159 It wasn't that legendary. 0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:44.600 It was legendary in my mind. Remember th wor Yo, 0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:47.480 What keeps you grounded in this business? Being through you know, 0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:53.119 having all the relationships you have, being through all the situations, deals, independent, 0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.320 you know, records not going like you wanted to go? 0:27:56.720 --> 0:28:00.239 What keeps you grounded as an artist? The way you like? Man, 0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:03.600 I'm gonna still stay focused, you know what I'm saying 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:05.679 because a lot of niggas, you know, they tend to 0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:07.560 give up and not know how close they was. 0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:08.760 Yah, I ain't gonna lie. 0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:11.560 I'll be one of them artists like I used to be, 0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.560 where it's like, man, fuck this shit, and then it'll 0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.800 always be one thing to bring me right back. But 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:20.639 just being persistent, you know what I mean, and just 0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:24.119 knowing that this shit is a marathon for real, I 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:28.159 mean so like, and I guess keeping me grounded also 0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:31.840 is looking at people that actually gave up, you know 0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:37.000 what I mean, and not saying uh maliciously, like respectfully, 0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:38.920 like I don't want to be like this, nigga. 0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.360 I gotta keep it going, you know what I mean. 0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:46.000 And and obviously you know the people that believe in 0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.120 me that I'm actually doing this for them too, you 0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:49.520 know what I mean. 0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.920 So it's like I can't. I can't give up, nigga. 0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.640 I've been nigga, done came too far anyway, So it's like, 0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:57.520 I ain't coming this far to just come this far. 0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.560 That's a fact, feel me, that's a fact. That's a bar. 0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:03.160 I ain't come this far just to come this far. 0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.440 That's a boy, I think, Boy, French just said that. Right, 0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:09.040 there's new joint with him and Max, Yeah, with him 0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:13.440 in Max Man shout out the way the cokewave. See yeah, 0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:16.080 I'm fifty the coke wave. They got me back on 0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:23.920 the coke wave almost on the fifth flow, and I'm 0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:27.880 on the coke wave. Ship is bad music influencing the 0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:34.280 old hands now, YI, so out of everything, man, like 0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:37.360 you do the sports. Y'all got your sports entertainment thing. Man, 0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:41.320 you got the brand companies, you do the music. What's 0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:44.360 the most fun? You think? You can't say? All three? 0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:46.600 Nah, all three ain't the most fun. 0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:52.680 Because you know, obviously, nigga, we came up smoking bud 0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:55.080 so just to be able to move how we move 0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:59.160 with the weeds, like that's unfathomable. You can't, we can't 0:29:59.200 --> 0:29:59.720 fathom that. 0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:03.400 Hold on from New York. Y'all gonna wait till I 0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:07.920 move to legalize it. After y'all to locked me up 0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:13.720 in every county, then at every precinct, pay every fine, 0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.280 and every time I got locked up in always a 0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:21.680 school zone around where the fine go extra five hundred 0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.200 because you in the school zone. I got locked up 0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.480 on the GW and they said I was in the 0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:31.040 school zone. The fuck is there school on the bridge? 0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.960 Word like? And this is when they came out with 0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:38.400 the Mason jaws. Now they got just lit the al 0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:40.480 and the cop right there, the smoke going up. It 0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:42.600 looked like a cartoon to smoke on there. And he 0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:46.080 saw me. Nigga pulled me over lout. This is one 0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:48.080 of the funny stories. We're gonna go back. I'm sorry, 0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:52.960 but I gotta tell his story because got the Mason jaw. 0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:56.760 If you know a chia pet, that's what the Mason 0:30:56.840 --> 0:31:00.680 jaw felt like. Looking where to stash it car. That 0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:03.920 shit felt like it was growing as the cop was 0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:08.160 walking up, it was growing more like I just put 0:31:08.160 --> 0:31:10.880 the ship on the dashboard, like fucking ain't nowhere to 0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:14.600 put this ship caught. So of course he takes me 0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.680 out the car, take us to the precinct. We get 0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:21.320 down there. I got got the bleak on my own tatty. 0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:23.640 Then they could go to take pictures. You got tattoos, 0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:25.320 know how they hit you with that? Let me take 0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:27.160 pictures and they could take a picture of my tattoo. 0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:31.440 He looked and say, you Memphis bleak. I'm looking at 0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.560 the nigga like, well, I just so you think I'm 0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:35.760 a fuck I'm that much of a fan, nigga? You 0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.920 bugging like Nigga was like, come on, man, tore the 0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.840 ship up and let us go my nigga on some 0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:45.240 g ship Like I'm a fan, Nigga rocks for Why 0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:48.480 you ain't say that on the bridge, Like I ain't 0:31:48.480 --> 0:31:58.920 know that shit work. Hey, y'all heard of Rockefella, you know, 0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.720 but that we story you just said made me think 0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.160 about that. Man. But I was asking. 0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:06.040 You the most fun? 0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:08.440 Yeah, what you have the most fun or the most 0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:11.480 intriguing thing that that you wake up and drives you 0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:13.680 the most, give you that push. 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:15.360 Right now is the wrestling shit. 0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:17.960 I'm having the most fun in the world with that 0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:21.360 ship right now because it's like, you know, it's a 0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:25.720 new business and I'm getting to like mingle with people 0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:29.320 that I grew up watching and I'm learning not from 0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:33.600 a fan perspective, but from the business perspective, like behind 0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:37.520 the curtain actually being you know, one of the owners 0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.240 of a wrestling promotion, you know what I mean. 0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:41.440 And that's different. 0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:45.280 It's super different because we indeed, but we we work 0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:46.400 on a major. 0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:48.680 Structure. 0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:52.800 So I'm learning so much and I'm getting to put 0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:56.080 my knowledge of being a fan for forty one years 0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:59.080 to test. So I'm having the most fun with that 0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:03.880 shit and just creating matches and putting new wrestlers on, 0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.400 giving nigga shots, you know what I mean, and just 0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:07.320 being embedded. 0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:13.760 You we can signed wrestlers. Choke. That's a wrestler. Dog. 0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:18.160 Somebody in the hood think they got that max skill wrestler. 0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:22.120 We wrestler entertainment. Now you know what I mean. Yo, 0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:25.320 So ship you've been there. Let's go Top five all 0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:29.560 time wrestlers, Top five all time in order? No no, 0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:30.000 no order? 0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.240 All right, Well I'm gonna go. My number one is 0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:32.840 hoh Kogan. 0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:38.040 That's right. I don't care. Despite whatever, Yeah, despite the controversy. 0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:39.920 Niggas know they was a hooka. 0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.920 Baby I was, and not for nothing blues with that 0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.640 was my men, Like, oh, you know, I knew that 0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:46.400 was my man. 0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:49.400 I never been saying see and they said he was racist. 0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:53.320 Come on, dug you darker than me, you know what 0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.760 I mean? Like dog, you know what I mean? 0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:58.560 Like I went and had dinner women and all that, 0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:00.480 like a couple of year years ago. 0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:02.320 That was that was my man. 0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:04.320 And you know shout out the Nick his his son 0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.040 Nick Nick still home today. 0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:09.960 But Hogan, Chris Jericho. 0:34:11.320 --> 0:34:14.920 I love Chris Jericho because he got the the fucking 0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.280 art of reinventing, you know what I mean That Nigga 0:34:17.320 --> 0:34:22.480 reinvented for the last thirty years, just every year something different. 0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:27.960 And he didn't won every championship in every promotion, Stone Coat, 0:34:28.040 --> 0:34:30.920 Steve Auston, you know what I mean, Like he ushered 0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:36.120 in the ad an error in wrestling that. 0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:37.320 Nigga came in drinking a beer, crack a can of 0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:41.920 beer on your head. Yeah, straight with the bad leg too. 0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.960 I didn't got the stinky leg early. 0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:56.760 And the George, the George before, he just wasn't wrestling 0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:58.600 in them. But he's coming out with the George the 0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:03.080 can of beer in the middle, yo. I mean Undertaker. 0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:06.359 The Undertaker changed the game. They could come out, shake 0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:08.359 the rope on you and choke you out. 0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.000 Yeah, because we knew it wasn't it's it's not a 0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:14.319 human walk in the earth, that's like the Undertaker, But 0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:16.399 we all took him serious, you know what I mean, 0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:19.320 Like he had the art of making the fans believe. 0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:21.880 But it was rumors about him. They were saying they 0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:26.759 they doubled the Undertaker, like they put a new undertaker. 0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:26.879 Not an eye. 0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:29.480 So that was nineteen ninety five when they did an 0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:33.480 Undertaker first Undertaker thing for Summer Slant. They had Prome 0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:37.440 Tom Bryant Lee playing undertaker to confuse niggas. 0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:41.440 They said that with the Warrior too. Before that they doubled. 0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:46.280 But no, that's not true. That's just people just chatting. 0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:50.960 But on my number five is probably Sean Michaelson. 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:56.200 K. That's right, that's right. The Heartbreak Kid by nigga, 0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.560 fuck it, what was it? The Heartbreak Foundation was it? 0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:03.799 That's the heart Found found Yeah, that's Brad Hard and 0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:04.840 Jim and Anvil yo. 0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:08.880 See I was like tag team niggas because those niggas 0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:14.959 the Killer Bees, the Road Warriors, yeah, my nigga, yeah, 0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:19.920 the Road Warriors was yeah, before they merged, it when 0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:21.520 it was the w A. 0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:24.640 Yeah, before they went. 0:36:24.520 --> 0:36:27.239 To before they merged, it was w c W and 0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:30.080 w w F. Then they merged, they made it what 0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:31.640 w w E. All right? 0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:34.719 So w w E came because w w F is 0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:39.239 the World Wide Wildlife Federation, so they had likely they 0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:42.439 lost a dispute to them, so they had to take 0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:44.799 the f and turn it in the E and it's 0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:48.359 it's sports entertainment. Like they didn't w w E don't 0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:48.719 they not? 0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:52.960 Like insane? Man, I told you, Jake, the snake was 0:36:53.040 --> 0:37:00.480 my nigga. Nigga put the snake on you word, then 0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:03.720 you had my man an the move? Still eat the turnbuckle. 0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:08.440 You know, niggas, you're judging real life. 0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.920 Nah, chill, But niggas, you know what a lot of 0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:16.880 these young niggas what the iron sheet move? Put a 0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:20.160 little nigga in the cammebel clutch. That nigga dropping his 0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:32.360 flag nigga Like I'm going straight, I would be a 0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:36.919 doctor down. What's that you did to me? Remember back 0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:39.880 in the day niggas was practicing the moves or niggas 0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:42.320 in the hood like put a little nigga in the 0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:43.320 campbell clutch. 0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:45.520 I'm telling you that's how niggas was getting put to sleep. 0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:49.719 Yeah, what's my nigga? The ted dB man dollar dream 0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:53.719 on a niggas or my man? Damn when it was 0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:57.000 the fucking n w O. What's my man had to 0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:00.920 slick here with the tooth pick? Nah, that water juice, 0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:04.640 raise a ramot, put you in his young niggas dropping. 0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:08.759 I'm telling you you'll get a young nigga to get 0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:16.480 out the game. Yo. That she came in with the 0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:20.000 bent up shoes and kicked ass. 0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:21.279 And she was like that. 0:38:21.480 --> 0:38:24.120 Yeah, he was like that, my nigga. That's what's up, man. 0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:26.759 So let me ask you this. You gave me your 0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:31.600 top five wrestlers, top five all time smoking rap niggas. 0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:35.040 Oh, nobody asking me that. 0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:44.200 I ain't no order. I'm gonna go With's Khalifa. He 0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:51.120 gotta be up there, Yeah, he up there. Currency of course, 0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:52.319 gotta be. 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:58.040 Kiss kiss. 0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.960 Actually, I'm gonna put this, gotta put them together as 0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:03.080 a group, okay, kiss styles. 0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:06.799 I love smoking with them. Niggas ain't hearing stories. So 0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:07.880 that's that's three. 0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:17.000 You me. Oh shit, I'm in the Smoker Haulics. 0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:22.680 Four and then my fifth one, my fifth one, I'm 0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:25.760 gonna put dog in there because this nigga, Snoop. Always, 0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:27.960 for any time I ever smoke with this nigga, I'll 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:28.719 be coughing and ship. 0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:34.160 I got beef with Snoop. It's up. It's up. Every 0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:37.560 time I see Snoop, it's up. That nigga. Only nigga 0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:40.399 smoked me out where I'm like, yo, fair, I can't. 0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:43.880 I'm done. I'm too high. I can't smoke no more. Twice. 0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:46.319 You know how the first time it happened is like 0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:50.319 this shit ain't happening again. Next time I see this nigga, 0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:53.360 I don't care how many blunts you roll. This ship 0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:56.719 ain't happening again. And then I get up with him again, 0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:57.480 and I'm like. 0:39:57.520 --> 0:39:58.320 This happened again. 0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:04.040 Yo. I got a picture with Dazz and Snoop and Corrupt, 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:07.919 and the fucking picture is so much smoke in the room. 0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:10.680 The smoke looked like it's posing with us for the 0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:14.360 flick war. My nigga, Snoop, it's on, it's up. He 0:40:14.400 --> 0:40:17.880 don't even know it's beef. He don't even know it's beef. 0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:20.880 It's up soon, it's up. Soon as I see you 0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:26.960 for her, I was waiting for you. I was gonna 0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:29.960 be like, no, Snoop. But then now my top my 0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:34.919 top five smoking rappers from my era. I gotta put 0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:37.200 you put a group. I gotta put the dog Pound, 0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:42.000 gotta put Snoop. I gotta put my nigga exhibit. 0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:47.279 Got to missing one that I I bunched all two 0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:49.000 niggas up together on the weed ship. 0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:53.640 Who else I gotta put up there? Man, I gotta 0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:56.960 put red in Meth as a group too. Without redding Meth, 0:40:57.040 --> 0:41:00.319 I be smoking sticks his seeds in my weed. I 0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.879 felt like Biggie was talking to me. I still pick 0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.640 seeds out your wied. I felt like that ship was 0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:07.600 a straight shot at me because I was at some 0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:09.839 show and I'm throwing that ship. And then I heard 0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:13.440 the verse and I'm like that nigga was talking. Biggie 0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:16.839 shitted on me. That was about me. Yeah, and Rad 0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:18.520 and Meth we got the LA and they was like 0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:20.480 what you're smoking on? And I showed them. They like, 0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:23.879 come on, little Bro came with me and they took 0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.040 me to the Homie and I got some ship and 0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:28.680 that changed my life. So they gotta go up there. 0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:32.800 Who else from my era that was a major smoker, 0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:34.440 fucking hauling. 0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:41.680 Mm see. I think about backstage when it was you and. 0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:46.480 Jah No Joe's smoke all it, but jo Yo. I 0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:49.640 love my bros. Man, I love you Joe, you know 0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:53.320 I love you, You my nigga. But Joe still smoke 0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:57.200 dispensary weed. He don't care like you know, his levels 0:41:57.239 --> 0:42:01.200 to this ship y'all, don't he don't care. He's smoking. 0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:05.359 It don't matter like Roland, he don't care. So that's 0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:10.680 why now no he up there, he'll honorary mentioned. But no, 0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.759 I don't care because you're my man. No, no, you're 0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:17.319 my man. Who else I'm trying to think because it's 0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:20.319 a few niggas that I done burnt it down where 0:42:20.440 --> 0:42:29.200 we done blazed it. Mm yo, this one I was 0:42:29.320 --> 0:42:33.719 left field. Niggas would never think paused in his name 0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:36.480 though it's twenty twenty six. To you, my bro, you 0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:40.520 might have to change your name. Miss the Cheeks, you 0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:43.359 definitely got to change your name. It's twenty twenty six. 0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:46.400 I love you, my nigga. We can't call you mister Cheeks. 0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:48.480 Not in twenty twenty six. 0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:51.759 Nigga, I didn't even know he was a buddhahead like 0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:53.600 that what the lost boys? 0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:57.480 Yo? I was in Miami. One of the illest smoking 0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.480 sessions I had. I'm in Miami. It's me Miss the Cheeks, 0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:04.279 a corrupt wow like niggas would never think and know 0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:08.279 my niggas bro, like man Cheeks, you gotta pull up. 0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.040 We gotta talk about this new name. In twenty twenty six, 0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:16.680 we readvanced, I'm blizzle. We changing his name. Fuck that, 0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:19.719 that's my dog. He gonna wanna fight me. We ain't 0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:21.640 see me because he from back in the day. You know, 0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:23.920 niggas be like that, or see you and be like, yo, 0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.920 you owe me five minutes. You owe me five minutes. 0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:29.480 You know, see you and be like yo, five minutes. 0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:30.799 I ain't got nothing to do with. 0:43:35.480 --> 0:43:38.400 Nah, but cheeks up there. He'll smoking ass nigga too. Man. 0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:40.560 I gotta put him up there because he blowed down 0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:44.279 heavy with your boy. Word Another thing, man, what's your 0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:50.040 take on the direction you feel New York music scene 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:50.479 is going. 0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:53.040 Shit. 0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:02.640 That's a tough question because I want to take myself 0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:09.919 out of it and answer it non bias. I think 0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:11.240 it's it's interesting. 0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:12.919 Uh. 0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:15.600 I'm not really a fan of. 0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:19.759 Drill music like that, but I respect any you know, 0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:23.160 anybody getting money from the craft, and it's art, artists art. 0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:25.239 I think the way you might want to say it 0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.120 is the way I say it. I'm a fan of 0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:32.640 drill music, just not the actual real crime you're rapping 0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:36.000 about that in the music, because if it's a real crime, 0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:38.520 I don't like it. Now. I feel like an informant. 0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:41.680 You told me too much information, Like my daughter say, 0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:42.279 t M, I. 0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:46.440 You know, but but you know, I'm a fan of 0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:49.400 I'm a fan of people that's saying something. 0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:50.439 Yes, you know what I mean. 0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:54.440 So I like artists like Fergie Baby, I like I 0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:55.160 like jay. 0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:56.200 Wan, you know what I mean. 0:44:56.760 --> 0:45:01.080 I like cock Cash, I like Jimmy Badass Joey. 0:45:02.280 --> 0:45:06.440 So what I'm saying, And obviously you know Griselda clearly yo. 0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:09.279 The niggas I told I seen Bennie in Atlanta. I 0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:13.200 told that Nigga. Yah, niggas gotta have a plantation where 0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:16.920 y'all breathing these fucking artists like mutants like it gotta 0:45:16.960 --> 0:45:19.480 be because come on, man, how you just find it? 0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:24.280 Thirty eight stove God Like? First of all, we're still 0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:27.839 dealing with west Side Bennie. You know, we ain't even 0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:31.279 digest ya niggas yet, and y'all coming with new niggas now. 0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:33.160 But the ill part is the niggas that you name, 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.560 They've been around what I'm saying, Like Nigga, I got 0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:40.320 a record with Special six me Special Nipsey so special 0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:44.600 jumping YEA rest in peace was man. 0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:47.280 He was on his way. Bron every time I listen 0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:50.120 to that album, I'm like he was he was so 0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:53.560 he was that close taking this whole shit over. Bro, 0:45:54.160 --> 0:45:59.479 It's crazy the US up word. So another question, right, 0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:01.560 because you know how a lot of rappers be like, 0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:04.840 I'm not a rapper, I'm a hustler. I'm a hustler 0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:07.200 that rap. So do you feel like you're a rapper 0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:09.920 with a brand or do you feel like you're a 0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:13.760 brand that just raped ship? 0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:18.520 That's a great question. I'm both. 0:46:19.560 --> 0:46:24.200 I'm both, you know, regardless rapping out, I'm gonna find 0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:25.360 some way to get some money. 0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:26.040 That's right. 0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:29.680 Hustler baby, So that's that's the hustler spirit. I mean, 0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:31.479 I'm a hallom nigga. Figure it out. 0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:35.239 Yeah, all the all the all the work. Yeah, all 0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:38.320 the work, Harlem all day. You couldn't even walk two steps, 0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:41.759 got it right? Your poppy poppy rights fiscal Bobby right, 0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:45.640 poppy like nigga, I came to buy some sneaker. Fuck, 0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:48.879 I don't want no coke today. 0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.680 They don't get hit with the rabbit food, you know, Jesus, 0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:53.799 that real zip and then go in the building, hit 0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:55.200 you the rabbit food, come out a. 0:46:55.160 --> 0:46:55.960 Whole nother building. 0:46:55.960 --> 0:47:04.279 You be looking for that nigga for three years, so 0:47:04.440 --> 0:47:06.799 you give up like it was just four hundred. Yeah, 0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:09.879 I mean, but I'm both, you know what I mean, 0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:12.440 Because I'm also I'm definitely a rapper, you know what 0:47:12.440 --> 0:47:14.920 I mean. Like it's like niggas that be on the Internet, 0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:20.520 in the Internet nigga. You made announcement on the Internet. 0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:21.680 You are Internet nigga. 0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:24.920 So I'm definitely a rapper. 0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:26.319 That's a fact, man. 0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:29.359 Respect man. So when it's all said and done and 0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:33.279 you're chilling, got that Jay grand kids running around, because 0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:35.120 you might be on Jay's by, they might not be 0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.719 a blood. You might get a paper game. You know 0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:40.320 what I mean? Me too, I might be there with you, 0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:45.600 but I don't know. It's it's hard, It's difficult, But 0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:49.000 you know what I mean. What you want your legacy 0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:53.960 to be outside of just being a Harlem, New York rapper, 0:47:54.000 --> 0:47:56.359 what do you want people to remember? Smoke for. 0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:04.880 Somebody that put that shit on, somebody that. 0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:12.840 Somebody that was authentic to his mission and just to himself, 0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:14.360 you know what I mean, A. 0:48:16.440 --> 0:48:18.479 Wordsmith, you know what I mean? 0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:24.640 And uh, just somebody that never I never hit the plug, 0:48:25.040 --> 0:48:25.480 you know what I mean? 0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:27.120 Like I'm always. 0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:32.840 I'm always uh, I'm always giving somebody a link, you 0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:33.279 know what I mean. 0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.440 Like I'm not trying to hide the plug. 0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:40.160 I've always shared my platform with anybody that was around me. 0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:43.879 So somebody that gave back, you know what I mean 0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:49.960 to the culture. And then you know, anytime, like I said, 0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:52.320 I said this in another interview, but this is about 0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:54.480 to be my shiit. Anytime you smoke some good weed, 0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:56.200 thank you to God. 0:48:56.880 --> 0:49:00.799 Oh that's what's up man? Hell yeah, man? What's one 0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:05.160 thing you It's a question people ask me. So I'm 0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:07.960 trying to figure the right way to ask you that 0:49:08.120 --> 0:49:12.160 you felt like and I took this thing from zero 0:49:12.840 --> 0:49:16.120 to a hundred that you're most proud of that you 0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:19.960 look back and say, this is exactly how I planned it. 0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:24.719 Wow, I think the smoke does a brand. 0:49:25.120 --> 0:49:29.080 Mm well, I mean that's definitely something I took from 0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:32.719 zero to one hundred. Whereas, like you know, sometimes when 0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:37.120 I'm telling stories and I'm like, damn, that really fucking happened. 0:49:37.719 --> 0:49:42.120 I mean, cause it's like I never sat with something 0:49:42.160 --> 0:49:43.840 for a little while, and it was just like I 0:49:43.920 --> 0:49:48.160 never celebrated a move for more than a day of 0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:51.000 it happening like the next day. I'm like, I'm trying 0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:53.600 to do new I'm trying to create new history. So 0:49:53.640 --> 0:49:56.680 I think the Smoke does a brand from zero to 0:49:56.719 --> 0:49:58.840 one hundred to see where it came with, where I 0:49:58.880 --> 0:50:00.840 started and where I'm at today. 0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:04.800 Yeah, I'm proud of that. 0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:08.560 That's what's up? Man? What's so? What's next? Man? What's next? 0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:11.200 What could people expect? What's next from Smoke? Man? You 0:50:11.280 --> 0:50:13.480 know what I mean? Like what you got, what you're 0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:17.200 working on? What people should expect? Like? Yeah, I mean 0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:19.440 twenty twenty six is the year the horse Man? 0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:21.279 Yeah for sure, money for sure. 0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:26.640 I mean definitely more music. I think I'm winding down 0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:29.080 with the music a little bit. I think I'm a 0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:33.520 I'm like on like a three year watch. Yeah, I mean, 0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:41.280 give or take, but definitely more music. Trying to collab 0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:44.120 with everybody that I love and respect. We need to 0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:46.279 get that uh, that blizzling dissititate. 0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:49.319 Let's do it man, Man, I'm working you know. 0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:49.680 What I mean? 0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:53.080 And you know obviously don't smoke rock too with Pete Rock. 0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:54.160 Uh. 0:50:56.680 --> 0:50:59.000 I got a crazy record that I'm about to drop 0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:03.759 with we talk about three with with three. 0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:06.400 Of the people that niggas love. You know what I mean. 0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:08.200 I'm gonna just say I got a record with a 0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:14.719 Currency West and Max b Oh, I'm gonna kick the 0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:18.319 year off. I mean so by the time, by the 0:51:18.320 --> 0:51:21.240 time this interview dropped that joint and be out. 0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:24.640 And then Fourth Rope. You know what I mean. Fourth 0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:27.239 Rope is really what That's what I need everybody to 0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:27.840 be invested in. 0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:30.839 Fourth turn jump off. Fourth. 0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:36.480 I got my flyweight champion and this guy right. 0:51:36.480 --> 0:51:42.160 Come on, man, come on man, no chair, what's up? 0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:46.920 I love man, Champion, take your jewelry. 0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:55.560 Man, the real the real one, give an opportunity to 0:51:55.560 --> 0:51:57.680 pro wrestles all over the place. It's been a blessing 0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:01.200 for us for real. So Real One just showing love. 0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:05.200 Appreciate y'all love talking about wrestlings. That's right, man, tag 0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:08.640 had you know karate and yea, these guys have been 0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:12.600 throwing wrestlers in their bars, so they got their own promotion. 0:52:12.760 --> 0:52:17.320 Now that's right out here. Hustling, man, work hard, that's right, man, 0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:18.520 definitely man. 0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:19.839 Mother fucking brother, the real one. 0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:23.920 But yeah, get on YouTube, subscribe to Fourth Rope, follow 0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:26.440 us on Instagram. Make sure you pull up to one 0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:28.360 of the shows. Can get some of that good merch. 0:52:28.760 --> 0:52:31.600 Can catch the real one live, catch the Hardy Boys, 0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:34.839 I Tag Team shipping his live cat Zilla to our 0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:37.680 World Champion live, and then the whole fourth Rope roster. 0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:40.399 I'm hoping to have you there this year. 0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:42.879 Tried to get it last year. 0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:48.120 Man, there I'm there right cheat Joe in the day. 0:52:49.080 --> 0:52:50.759 Now we go, We're gonna get it right. 0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:55.440 But yeah, man, just expect all cool ship man, cool 0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:57.640 authentic original. 0:52:58.760 --> 0:52:59.759 Culture ship man. 0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:02.480 That's exactly why I fuck with you, bro, That's why 0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:05.359 you're a solid nigga. Man. You always gonna be family. Man. 0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:09.040 We need more cool niggas in the world's fake tough 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:12.520 guy ship. Please stop, or we're gonna have a nigga 0:53:12.600 --> 0:53:16.440 throw you off the fourth rope on your hand, nigga, Please, 0:53:16.880 --> 0:53:21.000 you know what it is. It's rock solid Ducey Ji. 0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:25.320 Oh, shout out, Charlie Man, Josh Bishop, Joe Alonso. 0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:29.360 You already know he's silent, this rock solid smoke dizzer 0:53:29.680 --> 0:53:36.799 Fourth Rope Baby dou sy yin. For more podcasts from 0:53:36.840 --> 0:53:40.799 Our Heart Radio, visit our Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:43.279 or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at and 0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:46.520 You can follow me on any social media platform under 0:53:46.560 --> 0:53:49.920 the name Memphis Bleak. You see anybody Frauen flagging