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Speaker 1: Good evening, America, Happy Monday.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the latest edition of Justin News, No Noise.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, John Solomon, reporting chairs always from the

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Speaker 2: nation's capital.

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Speaker 1: A busy day, though not so much in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 2: Rather overseas, where President trip has kicked off an extraordinary

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Speaker 2: foreign trip, visiting Japan earlier today in Malaysia over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: But it all comes as a backdrop to the President's

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Speaker 2: trade negotiations with Chinese leader Jiji Ping later this week.

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Speaker 2: The Trump administration has announced a number of big developments

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Speaker 2: on that front. First, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson says the

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Speaker 2: United States and China have reached a substantial framework in

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Speaker 2: trade talks already, further explaining that the President has given

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Speaker 2: a maximum leverage around the Rare Earth mineral policy, threatening

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent terrorifts if the Chinese and are implementing

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Speaker 2: end up implementing any kind of rare earth export controls on.

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Speaker 1: The United States.

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Speaker 2: Secretary Bessett also revealed that the two countries have reached

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Speaker 2: what he called a final deal on TikTok that would

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Speaker 2: allow the social media giant to remain operational in the

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Speaker 2: United States.

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Speaker 1: That deal will also be.

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Speaker 2: Made official after President Trump meets with Ejijiping on Thursday's

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Speaker 2: US investors owning eighty percent of the apps US operations,

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Speaker 2: with Chinese parent company by Dance owning a twenty percent stake.

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Speaker 2: The big question will be who owns the algorithm. We

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Speaker 2: should learn more about that over the next couple of days.

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Speaker 2: We also have some big news coming from the FBI

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Speaker 2: to get to dealing with the bureaus policy of building

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Speaker 2: alliances with local police departments. It's resulting in some major wins.

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Speaker 2: The most recent was Operation Chalk Line, which used fourteen

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Speaker 2: SWAT teams to penetrate street gangs that have been terrorizing

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Speaker 2: the cities of Milwaukee and Racine in southeastern Wisconsin. FBI

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Speaker 2: Deputy Director Dan Bongino praised it over the weekend. Officials

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Speaker 2: said the raids around Milwaukee were the product of a

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Speaker 2: year long investigation that brought state and federal partners together.

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Speaker 2: Pretty successful preperation, and by the way, the gangs they

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Speaker 2: took down had ties to international cartel sitting. Weren't just

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Speaker 2: even terrorizing in Wisconsin, they were all over the world.

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Speaker 1: That's just the latest example.

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Speaker 2: The partnerships known as Homeland Security task Forces that brought

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Speaker 2: together FBI and HSI personnel as well as task force

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Speaker 2: officers officers from local, state and federal partner agencies. The

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Speaker 2: target transnational organized crime activity. That's what they're bringing out,

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Speaker 2: things like drug trafficking and human trafficking. Big wins cities

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Speaker 2: are a lot saferer. There were five cities that had

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Speaker 2: major raids last week where those task forces were fast

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Speaker 2: at work.

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Speaker 1: All right, Great.

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Speaker 2: Time to bring in my amazing coast Amanda head from

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Speaker 2: more Headlines, Amanda, what.

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Speaker 1: Do you got cooking?

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Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, John, I want to get out to that

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Speaker 3: big mayoral race in New York City for just a minute,

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Speaker 3: because it has obviously been dominating.

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Speaker 4: The national conversation lately.

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Speaker 3: Not necessarily because it deals with the future of America's

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Speaker 3: biggest city. That of course is a huge consideration, but

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Speaker 3: it also deals with the future of the Democrat Party.

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Speaker 4: Which way should they go?

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Speaker 3: Should they come closer to the center and moderate their positions,

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Speaker 3: like some perceive the twenty twenty four results show, or

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Speaker 3: should they swing further to the left like others argue

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four election shows. And it seems that

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Speaker 3: we have our answer in as of New York City

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Speaker 3: Democrat mayoral candidate Zrun mam Dani. It's widely predicted that

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Speaker 3: Mamdani is going to be the next mayor of New

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Speaker 3: York City. And let's just say that some of his

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Speaker 3: policy prescriptions aren't that of your mom and dad's Democrat party.

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Speaker 3: Here he was explaining at a rally but held that

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Speaker 3: he held over the weekend.

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Speaker 5: We are going to freeze the rent for more than

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Speaker 5: two million rent stabilized tenants and use every resource at

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Speaker 5: our disposal to build housing for everyone who needs it.

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Speaker 5: We are going to eliminate the fair on every single

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Speaker 5: bus line, and we are going to create universal childcare

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Speaker 5: at no cost to parents.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean that all sounds great in theory, but who

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Speaker 3: is going to pay for it all? As the Great

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Speaker 3: Iron Lady said, socialism is great, and so you run

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Speaker 3: out of other people's money. So will it be the

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Speaker 3: white neighborhoods that mom Donnie has said that he wants

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Speaker 3: to tax more. Kind of seems like it, But this

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Speaker 3: is who the Democrats have decided is going to be

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Speaker 3: their standard at bear don't believe me. While here is

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Speaker 3: Governor Kathy Hochel at that very same rally, Alex arn

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Speaker 3: we take back America.

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Speaker 6: Thank you Queens, Thank you New York. I love it, Hud.

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Speaker 3: Alexisoeron, and we take back America.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, John, Maybe that.

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Speaker 3: Works in New York City where you say we're going

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Speaker 3: to have higher taxes for white neighbor but I know

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Speaker 3: a lot of states in this country where they would

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Speaker 3: say to them, don't try that around here.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 2: What's going to happen is that people are going to

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Speaker 2: change your residency. That billionaires will open up a place

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Speaker 2: in Florida and only stay in New York five months

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Speaker 2: a month. They won't pay their taxes, middle class won't

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Speaker 2: be able afford it. They're gonna leave, and you're gonna

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Speaker 2: have a ghost town that can't pay for anything in

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Speaker 2: New York. That's the dynamic that all the economists I'm

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Speaker 2: talking to are talking about.

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Speaker 4: You're a different Democrat party from when you started covering.

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Speaker 1: Politics, one hundred different.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a different Democrat party like that.

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Speaker 2: It looks more like Castro than it looks like of

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Speaker 2: the nineteen nineties. It's pretty remarkable, all right, Well, helping

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Speaker 2: to make sense of all that we just talked about

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Speaker 2: at the top of the show, joining us now. They're

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Speaker 2: great representative from the state of North Carolina. Congressman Mark Harris, Congressman.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you on the show.

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Speaker 7: Hey, John, It's great to be with you and Amanda today.

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Speaker 1: It is an honor to have you on.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about some of the things that

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Speaker 2: the President has achieved on this trip. Already deals with

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Speaker 2: Australia and Southeastern Asian nations to get us where Earth,

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Speaker 2: putting us back on a better footing after years of

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Speaker 2: China doing that, a framework of a trade in tariff

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Speaker 2: deal that could obviously Wall Street liked a lot today,

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Speaker 2: and then of course getting TikTok in American hands. China

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Speaker 2: ran wild for four years under Joe Biden, but it

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Speaker 2: feels like President Trump is starting to level.

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Speaker 1: The playing field. What are you seeing.

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Speaker 2: What do you expect to come out of the meeting

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Speaker 7: Well, John, one of the things that I'm seeing is

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Speaker 7: that we need not be too quick to forget that

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Speaker 7: Joe Biden and his leadership retreated from the world stage.

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Speaker 7: And what I think you're seeing happening this week, and

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Speaker 7: we've been seeing in these weeks leading up to now,

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Speaker 7: that President Trump is reasserting the bold leadership that the

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Speaker 7: a very strong way. And I'm very very hopeful. You

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Speaker 7: see the work that's already happened. He had a piece

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Speaker 7: deal that he simply was able to go and witness

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Speaker 7: just the other day. He's now meeting with the Prime

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Speaker 7: Minister of Japan. He's looking for more trade opportunities, I know,

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Speaker 7: some things to try to help our farmers here in

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Speaker 7: So there are things like that that he is doing

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Speaker 7: that I'm very very excited about. And then, of course,

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Speaker 7: much of this is leading up to the meeting that

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Speaker 7: of the week, and the framework is already it seems

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Speaker 7: very very grateful American leadership is back under this president,

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Speaker 7: and I think the American people ought to be very excited.

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Speaker 3: Congressman, there are a number of industries that are rich

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Speaker 3: in North Carolina. President Trump has often spoken and tweeted

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Speaker 3: about the furniture industry and bringing that back to States Lake,

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Speaker 3: North Carolina. But I also with President Trump having these

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Speaker 3: conversations with China, it also brings about the conversation of

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Speaker 3: That would really really go a long way in boosting

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Speaker 7: It, no doubt about it. Research Triangle part there in

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Speaker 7: Raleigh is a big area that we see this kind

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Speaker 7: And so this will be a big boom to our

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Speaker 7: on Thursday, I'll be a part of a groundbreak ceremonial

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Speaker 7: So just some amazing things that are happening that this

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Speaker 7: president is taking seriously, the trade efforts and really just

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Speaker 7: rebuilding our economy.

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Speaker 1: Remarkable.

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Speaker 2: So I know you've been very concerned about mifiprestoe, and

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Speaker 2: not only that it's widespread, this distribution, but the lack

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Speaker 2: talk about planned parenthood.

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Speaker 1: Or the media that covers it.

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Speaker 2: Can you give us a sense of what is possible,

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Speaker 2: what can be done to reign in this drugger, to

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Speaker 2: create some regulatory oversight in the next few months, because

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of women are growing concerned that

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Speaker 1: Women who don't get follow up from their doctors.

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Speaker 7: It is handed out way too easily, and I think

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Speaker 7: that many of us that have been a part of

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Speaker 7: time have been very concerned that when folks can actually

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Speaker 7: just go to their mailbox and get a pill to

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Speaker 7: terminate their pregnancy, that is extremely dangerous from the health

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Speaker 7: seen legislation introduced. I've been a part of it that

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Speaker 7: was disappointed recently when the FDA actually approved a generic

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Speaker 7: we've sent a letter calling for that to be reined

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Speaker 7: in and for those that are responsible for moving this

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Speaker 7: something very dangerous. It's something that we need to be

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Speaker 7: aware of. We need to make sure that women are

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Speaker 7: not in a position where they're going to find themselves

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Speaker 7: in a medical emergency as a result of taking this

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Speaker 7: very dangerous drug. Women bleeding out in other instances like

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Speaker 7: that occurring, and it needs to be when it is administered,

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Speaker 7: it must be under a doctor's care. I think that

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Speaker 7: is just a common sense regulation, and we've been pushing

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Speaker 7: common sense in this Congress, in this administration, and when

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Speaker 7: you look at Mafetterstron, this is something that we're allowing

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Speaker 7: to happen without common sense regulations being in place.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, sir.

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Speaker 3: Another social issue involving children. I know that North Carolina

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Speaker 3: has a majority red state most of the time anyway,

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Speaker 3: parental rights is a big issue.

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Speaker 6: So you have.

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Speaker 3: Statewide a lot of parents who are standing up for

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Speaker 3: keeping the gender ideology crap out stuff, sorry out of schools.

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Speaker 3: But you have a few certain districts school boards who

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Speaker 3: are trying to push it in there.

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Speaker 1: Remarkable stuff.

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Speaker 2: It'll be an amazing day when you can go to

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Speaker 2: a big win for the American people. Congressman, great to

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Speaker 2: have you in the show today. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 7: Always great to be with you guys. Y'all have a

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Speaker 4: Welcome back, every geading to just the news and the noise.

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Speaker 4: We have said it before in the show. We said

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Speaker 3: The election integrity is the number one most underreported subject in.

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Speaker 3: When you think about it, practically everything in our country

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Speaker 4: Policies that those people we elect.

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Speaker 3: Ultimately implement, and we've had some ongoing issues with our elections,

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Speaker 3: great to have you back on the show.

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Speaker 8: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: Shutdown Shutdown.

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Speaker 3: You guys are rolling down the road a number of

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Speaker 8: Well, one of the things that we've been doing in

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Speaker 9: Enforcing our federal civil rights laws related to voting, and

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Speaker 9: they included the Help America Vote Act, the National Voter

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Speaker 8: And we've been asking states to produce the data.

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Speaker 9: And so this is an important task and tool that

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Speaker 8: This has met with some resistance by some.

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Speaker 9: State officials that Governor Newsom has gone nutso criticizing this,

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Speaker 9: I don't know why anybody should be concerned about federal

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing what happens when you start to enforce

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Speaker 2: really interesting. Give us an update on Wisconsin. I think Wisconsin,

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Speaker 2: If you're not going to comply, you're going to lose

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Speaker 2: Are they in danger of losing their funding? Who else

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Speaker 9: Well, I you know, since this thing is ongoing, I'm

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Speaker 8: It's going to go next. But we're very serious about it.

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Speaker 9: You've seen my boss Pam Bondi as well on the President.

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Speaker 8: Really the way to go.

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Speaker 9: So what's interesting is how we do so much in

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Speaker 8: A lot of federal funding, but they actually aren't.

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Speaker 9: You're not entitled to federal funding unless you're complying with

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Speaker 3: Harmine, A lot of people have argued that when it

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Speaker 4: It's not days, it's not weeks, it's not months.

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Speaker 3: But you still have states persisting where they mail out

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Speaker 4: Do you anticipate that that can be done away with?

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Speaker 3: What is the Civil Rights Division within the DOJ's responsibility

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Speaker 3: and making that happen. I know Congress has their role

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Speaker 3: to play, but what do you see as the future fight.

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Speaker 9: The primary place where the mechanics of voting are dealt

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Speaker 9: with under the Constitution is state legislatures. And so, you know,

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Speaker 9: we believe in federalism, We respect no that. The problem

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Speaker 9: is that in the twenty twenty and some other elections,

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Speaker 9: actually it wasn't the state legislatures. They kind of abdicated

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Speaker 9: their role, particularly during COVID, and you saw state supreme

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Speaker 9: courts overwriting those election laws passed.

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Speaker 8: By the state legislators.

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Speaker 9: That has happened in Pennsylvania and it's continuing to happen

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Speaker 9: in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 8: Actually, and then.

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Speaker 9: You have sometimes state attorneys general or state secretaries of

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Speaker 9: states saying, whoop, see, you know, we have an emergency,

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Speaker 9: so we're just going to make up some rules so

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Speaker 9: you're seeing states not complied with that federalism themselves, and

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Speaker 9: so you know that may be something that can be

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Speaker 9: addressed by the courts ultimately. So right now, you see

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Speaker 9: different litigants, particularly political parties, litigating these issues.

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Speaker 8: You see sometimes the United States Department of Justice will

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Speaker 8: way in on it expressing our viewpoint on it.

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Speaker 9: You know, we expressed our viewpoint on you know, at

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Speaker 9: a high level in the Voting Rights Act, for example,

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Speaker 9: in the Supreme Court Louis Anniversus Cala. And you know,

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Speaker 9: that's kind of our role is really is really at

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Speaker 9: that level as a national policy issueing interpretation of the Constitution.

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Speaker 8: But most of these laws are made at the state level.

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Speaker 9: Now, you know, Congress could address that issue. That's a

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Speaker 9: policy issue. I don't deal with policy so much in

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Speaker 9: my job, but Congress could address these issues by saying,

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Speaker 9: you know, we grant federal funding, you know, for particular purposes,

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Speaker 9: or we could tie some of the you know, federal

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Speaker 9: grants or relief that comes under some of these federal

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Speaker 9: voting statutes to certain minimum indusa of accuracy or competency

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Speaker 9: or a certainty. That could be something that Congress could

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Speaker 9: could do and I'm sure people are looking at doing

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Speaker 9: that at some point.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just comes up a lot when I talk

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Speaker 2: about everyday public people saying, well, how do I be

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Speaker 2: sure that I have eco protection of the law when

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Speaker 2: I vote in a state that does get illegal aliens

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Speaker 2: off the ballots or non citizens off the ballots. But

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Speaker 2: then Californians don't and they don't check the list. So

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Speaker 2: we just saw the effect of the saved database and

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Speaker 2: how much it can do for even a good state

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Speaker 2: like Texas to find non eligible, non citizen voters. Is

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Speaker 2: there any consideration that that should become the norm and

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Speaker 2: that not checking that database would create an une protection

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Speaker 2: for voters in states that they don't look for illegal

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Speaker 2: aliens or non citizens on the roles.

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Speaker 8: Again, that's kind of a policy issue.

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Speaker 9: I'm a big supporter of checking this data and these

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Speaker 9: databases we know from what we've seen. I mean, that's

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Speaker 9: one of the reasons I'm requesting this data on behalf

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Speaker 9: of the Attorney General is to do the job for

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Speaker 9: the states. The states aren't doing it, and I mean

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Speaker 9: red states and blue states. They're not doing their job

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Speaker 9: to keep the voter rules clean. That's a fact you

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Speaker 9: see many anecdotes and instances.

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Speaker 10: I know many that I've examined.

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Speaker 8: Myself as a the lawyer for campaigns and for the

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Speaker 8: Republican Party when I was in my private role.

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Speaker 9: Before I joined the Department of Justice, where you see

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Speaker 9: wholesale really using ballots like mailers, like shoppers, like catalogs,

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Speaker 9: like people just get spammed with them, get they get

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Speaker 9: multiple ones.

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Speaker 8: It's difficult to people assume.

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Speaker 9: When they move and they register in a new state

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Speaker 9: or a new county that they're taking off the voter rolls.

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Speaker 9: Not so even if you inform the secretary of State,

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Speaker 9: in some states, they don't take you off. You have

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Speaker 9: to go to the county level. And you know, I've

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Speaker 9: had a couple of people in my family pass away

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Speaker 9: and one of the first things I did after the

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Speaker 9: funeral was contact my county registrar from you know, for

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Speaker 9: the family to make sure that they're removed. It would

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Speaker 9: be a disgrace to their memories to have someone else

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Speaker 9: vote their ballot for them.

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Speaker 8: And so this is something that citizens have to be

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Speaker 8: very proactive about. But secretaries of State, I mean one

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Speaker 8: of the people people don't really think about this.

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Speaker 9: But people rarely run for secretary of state, because that's

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Speaker 9: their ultimate goal in life. They're actually usually parking themselves

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Speaker 9: to be a center or governor, waiting to run for president.

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Speaker 11: Or what have you.

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Speaker 9: That's certainly the case in my former home state of California,

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Speaker 9: and so there's not a lot of accountability. We citizens

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Speaker 9: need to demand that accountability. We're entitled to that, and

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Speaker 9: so this is among the first administrations that's really focused

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Speaker 9: on this issue in a Republican administration. I'm proud to

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Speaker 9: be leading that effort and the administration is one hundred

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Speaker 9: percent behind us on this.

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Speaker 3: Harman, I'm interested to know what you think about any

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Speaker 3: of these cases that end up at the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 3: because with a six three breakdown on the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 3: with a lot of these cases they have ruled in

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Speaker 3: favor of the Trump administration and basically in the name

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Speaker 3: of elption integrity. Do you anticipate and do you want

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Speaker 3: to see these cases ultimately end up there and maybe

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Speaker 3: sooner so that that can be settled.

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Speaker 9: Well, we do have the one case before the court

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Speaker 9: right now that's very important, Louisiana versus Calai goes to

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Speaker 9: the important questions regarding equal protection when it comes to

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Speaker 9: drawing lines and states, and that's really about the Supreme

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Speaker 9: Court cleaning up its own owned, confusing jurisprudence in this

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Speaker 9: area that has dealt with, I think outdated methods of

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Speaker 9: analyzing the requirements under the Voting Rights Act and some

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Speaker 9: outdated criteria under a Jingles versus Thornburgh. That's an important

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Speaker 9: case that's going to be I think maybe possibly determined

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Speaker 9: by this one.

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Speaker 8: But in terms of other.

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Speaker 9: Cases before the Court, you know, I think that I

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Speaker 9: think it's important for the Court.

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Speaker 8: To really weigh in on.

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Speaker 9: Issues like election day versus election month versus letting the

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Speaker 9: ballots come in days and even weeks after the fact.

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Speaker 9: There's a lot of loosey goosey aspects of the law

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Speaker 9: called uokava, which has to do with overseas voters. And

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Speaker 9: what's interesting is Democratic Party has actually been coaching people

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Speaker 9: in some elections to go, if they're an overseas voter,

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Speaker 9: send their ballots into one of these battleground states when

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Speaker 9: and there's nobody on the other side at the registrar's

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Speaker 9: office or the Secretary of State testing whether that person

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Speaker 9: has ties to that state, and you know, whether they're

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Speaker 9: legitimately picking that state to vote and versus some other state.

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Speaker 9: So we really need to crack down on that kind

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Speaker 9: of a thing. And on the other end of that

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Speaker 9: same law, we need to make it very easy for

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Speaker 9: our military voters to be able to vote. And frankly,

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Speaker 9: there have been some military commanders out there in the

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Speaker 9: field who don't facilitate that.

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Speaker 8: So our young men and.

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Speaker 9: Women in uniform form don't give up their right to

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Speaker 9: vote when they go overseas, and so their commanders need

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Speaker 9: to be letting them print.

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Speaker 8: The ballots and sent them in download them.

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Speaker 9: I really dealt with that in the Arizona election last year.

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Speaker 9: It was kind of sad to see the number of

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Speaker 9: people who weren't able to vote for dumb reasons.

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Speaker 8: And so these are all things.

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Speaker 9: I want every single American, whatever their political affiliation, to

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Speaker 9: be able to vote if they're an American citizen in

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Speaker 9: in a federal election, and only once and only with

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Speaker 9: other American citizens.

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Speaker 8: It's pretty simple.

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Speaker 9: It's this way around the rest of the world, and

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Speaker 9: yet in America we're having our hard time complying with

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Speaker 9: this one person, one vote concept. One of the other

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Speaker 9: issues that's very interesting that is going to hopefully eventually

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Speaker 9: be decided by the court is this whole issue of

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Speaker 9: who gets counted in the census and how that gets

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Speaker 9: counted in terms of allocating congressional districts. Because if you have,

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Speaker 9: for example, of California, where there are millions of illegal aliens,

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Speaker 9: they're counted in the census. And then on top of that,

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Speaker 9: the Biden administration census counting actually used AI to smooth

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Speaker 9: out the way they're calling it to sort of estimate overestimate,

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Speaker 9: because they were saying, oh, you know, people who are here,

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Speaker 9: maybe they're not legal, or maybe they're not citizens. They're

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Speaker 9: afraid to report for the census, so we're just going

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Speaker 9: to like boost those numbers and smooth them out. Kind

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Speaker 9: of shocking. So this is something that needs to be

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Speaker 9: fixed by the courts, I think absolutely.

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Speaker 8: Like you said, it's also simple.

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Speaker 3: Harmie Dillon, Assistant Attorney General, Force of Rights. Thanks much

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Speaker 3: for being here, Thanks for your expertise, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely all right.

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Speaker 3: Everybody, very quick break back on the upside.

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Speaker 1: In back America.

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Speaker 2: A decade ago or so, the Freedom Caucus started in Congress,

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Speaker 2: and boy did it disrupt Congress. It began to demand

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Speaker 2: accountability for spending and shrinking government and regulatory reform, and.

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Speaker 1: It paved the way for the Trump two point zero

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Speaker 1: revolution that we're now going through now.

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Speaker 2: Now, that spawned a whole movement in the States, and

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Speaker 2: quite frankly, the state freedom case state freedom caucuses are

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Speaker 2: really turning up, so a lot quicker with greater effect.

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Speaker 2: Joining us now the president of the State Freedom Caucus Network,

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Speaker 2: Andy wrought to tell us about it.

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Speaker 1: Andy, great to have you on.

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Speaker 10: Thanks for having me John.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I know people.

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Speaker 2: Get frustrated because change in Washington is measured in inches,

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Speaker 2: but in the States it's being measured in miles. Big

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Speaker 2: big changes from tax reform to shrinking government doges at

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Speaker 2: the state lefl that are probably even more effective than

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Speaker 2: the federal doge. Tell us what the freedom Caucuses have done.

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Speaker 10: Well, let's step back a little bit.

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Speaker 12: A lot of people don't know that the Freedom Caucus

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Speaker 12: is just it is the most powerful conservative caucus in

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Speaker 12: the US Congress. But like you said, it's expanding into

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Speaker 12: the states. And what do I mean by that. Ron DeSantis,

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Speaker 12: former House Freedom Caucus founder, is now arguably the most

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Speaker 12: conservative governor of the United States. Raoul Labrador, former member,

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Speaker 12: is the Attorney general in Idaho and Now this election cycle,

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Speaker 12: we have House Freedom Caucus members Andy Biggs and Ralph

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Speaker 12: Norman running for governor in Arizona and South Carolina. What's

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Speaker 12: amazing about that is that the group I run, the

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Speaker 12: State Freedom Caucus Network, we're creating state freedom Caucuses in

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Speaker 12: the fifty state capitals. We've got thirteen of them so far.

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Speaker 12: And the reason I bring up Andy Biggs and Ralph

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Speaker 12: Norman is that we've got an Arizona Freedom Caucus and

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Speaker 12: we've got a South Carolina Freedom Caucus. If those two

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Speaker 12: gentlemen win, and I believe that they are very heavy

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Speaker 12: favorites to win their party's nomination, you now have a

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Speaker 12: Freedom Caucus governor and a state Freedom Caucus working in

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Speaker 12: the legislature the state legislature, and amazing things will then happen.

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Speaker 12: You'll be able to doge the agencies, you'll be able

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Speaker 12: to cut taxes, You'll be able to shrink the size

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Speaker 12: and scope of government. So those two states were really

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Speaker 12: excited about. But like I said, we're in thirteen other

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Speaker 12: states like Wyoming, Illinois, of all places, Maryland another blue state, Pennsylvania, Missouri, Montana, Louisiana,

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Speaker 12: on and on, and our goal is to eventually get

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Speaker 12: into all fifty states. Places like New Jersey and California

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Speaker 12: are going to take some time, but they do have

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Speaker 12: conservatives in those states and they need representation, so we'll

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Speaker 12: get there.

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Speaker 10: Eventually, we do.

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Speaker 6: Andy.

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Speaker 3: I talked about this at the top of the show,

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Speaker 3: this dynamic that we are seeing with the Democrat Party

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Speaker 3: where especially with candidates like Zorn Mamdani, it looks like

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Speaker 3: the other hand, you have Republicans who it seems like,

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Speaker 3: especially with issues like taxation, particularly property theft, whoops, a

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Speaker 3: little bit of faux father property taxes, that conservatives are

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Speaker 3: returning to the Constitution when it comes to these types

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Speaker 3: of ideas spreading even in states like you mentioned, like California,

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Speaker 3: do you think that those states look at red states

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Speaker 3: like Florida, where conditions are improving, let's say, and they

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Speaker 3: maybe would be a little bit more open minded to

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Speaker 3: those policies in their own Well, that may be a

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Speaker 3: step too far, because I think the blue states really

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Speaker 3: do want to bleed their taxpayers dry.

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Speaker 12: California is trying to put a wealth tax on their

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Speaker 12: ballot for next year, and that's going to just drive

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Speaker 12: migration out of there, Californians are going to go to

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Speaker 12: Texas and Florida. So to think that California is going

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Speaker 12: to change their stripes is I think a little far fetched,

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Speaker 12: at least in the short term. But once all of

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Speaker 12: those wealthy people leave those blue states and come to

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Speaker 12: the Red States, I think it's a signal obviously that

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Speaker 12: the Red States are better. That being said, I do

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Speaker 12: want to make a point, and this is the most

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Speaker 12: profound point I can possibly make. No matter how corrupt

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Speaker 12: you think DC is, the fifty state capitals are even worse.

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Speaker 10: And people don't believe me when I say that.

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Speaker 12: But the reason why is because when you turn on

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Speaker 12: your TV or when you turn on your phone, most

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Speaker 12: of the things that you see are President Trump, Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 12: the Democrats in Congress, the war in Ukraine, what's happening

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Speaker 12: in the Middle East, the Federal Reserve, and inflation. Most

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Speaker 12: people don't know what's going on in their state capital

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Speaker 12: and the fifty swamps in those fifty state capitals. They

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Speaker 12: like it that way. They like operating in the dark.

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Speaker 12: And what happens is you have Democrats and liberal Republicans

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Speaker 12: conspiring together. Even in the red state to grow government,

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Speaker 12: and so what our state Freedom Caucuses are doing is

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Speaker 12: exposing all of that. And one of the places that

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Speaker 12: we've been most successful is in Wyoming. We only had

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Speaker 12: eight members of the Wyoming Freedom Caucus when they launched

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Speaker 12: just two years ago, but because they sounded the alarm,

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Speaker 12: they became a household name to all voters in Wyoming.

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Speaker 12: They are now in charge of the Wyoming State House.

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Speaker 12: The speaker is a Wyoming Freedom Caucus member, the pro

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Speaker 12: temp is a Freedom Caucus member. All of the chairs

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Speaker 12: of the powerful committees are Freedom Caucus members. So we

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Speaker 12: have the blueprint. We know, we've cracked the code. We

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Speaker 12: know how to do this, We know how to save

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Speaker 12: our states. We just have to replicate it in all

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Speaker 12: the other ones.

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Speaker 2: Freedom is contagious real quickly, and we only got about

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Speaker 2: thirty seconds. What's the big idea floating around the states.

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Speaker 2: It hasn't come to Washington, but one day.

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Speaker 12: Well, well, I think we've got to solve the redistricting problem.

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Speaker 12: Our Missouri Freedom Caucus was they were the only Republicans

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Speaker 12: in the state legislature that wanted to do redistricting.

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Speaker 10: The legend the swamp there didn't want.

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Speaker 1: To do it.

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Speaker 12: But because the Missouri Freedom Caucus and President Trump worked together,

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Speaker 12: they were able to deliver that, and now we just

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Speaker 12: got to do it in the other states.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet you're right. That's going to be a

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Speaker 1: big move.

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Speaker 2: We're seeing it more and more in every state around

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Speaker 2: the country. Eddie Roh, President of the State Freedom Caucus.

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Speaker 1: Thatwork.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you on. We'll be sure to get

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Speaker 2: you back on real soon again. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 10: Thanks for having me John, Yeah, great conversation.

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Speaker 2: All right, folks, after the break A law professor William

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Speaker 2: Jacobson always brings some big ideas with law fair. We're

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Speaker 2: learning so much about it. We're going to get tackle

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Speaker 2: that next with right at the.

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Speaker 6: Commercial Welcome back everybody.

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Speaker 3: President Trump is taking on the woke takeover of America's universities.

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Speaker 3: His new higher education reform plan draws a line in

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Speaker 3: the sand. No more taxpayer dollars for indoctrination, censorship, and

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Speaker 3: anti American propaganda.

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Speaker 4: So joining us now to talk about that and much more.

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Speaker 3: Cornell University law professor and founder of the Legal Insurrection Foundation,

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Speaker 3: William Jacobson, Sarah, thanks so much for being with us.

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Speaker 7: Great to be here, sir.

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Speaker 3: Seven years ago we heard the horror story of what

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Speaker 3: happened at Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I

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Speaker 3: talked to a lot of folks who say that anti

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Speaker 3: Semitism just lurks beneath the surface, no matter what time,

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Speaker 3: no matter what time it is, no matter what's happening,

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Speaker 3: anti Semitism is right there beneath the surface. Should we

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Speaker 3: have paid more attention than because now we have seen

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Speaker 3: an absolute snowball effect of this ramping up in the

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Speaker 3: last few years.

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Speaker 11: I think we should have. I mean that shooting obviously

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Speaker 11: is in a sense an outlier. I mean, there are

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Speaker 11: not that many violent outbursts like that, but the sentiments

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Speaker 11: behind it have spread like wildfire after October seventh, and

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Speaker 11: a lot of it's spread through social media, particular arly Twitter, Instagram, TikTok.

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Speaker 11: There really is a war against the Jews online, and

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Speaker 11: that's really the only way to describe it. The most

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Speaker 11: every ill on the earth is ascribed to Jewish control

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Speaker 11: things like that, and it's that sort of rhetoric that

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Speaker 11: causes a small number of people to snap and to

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Speaker 11: shoot up a synagogue or do other acts of violence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is amazing how a pandemic like it has

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Speaker 2: become a pandemic of anti semitism.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about some of

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Speaker 1: the successes. Over the weekend, a big deal was announced

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Speaker 1: with the UVA.

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Speaker 2: We're starting to see universities realizing that it's in their

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Speaker 2: interest to create a new education culture, not the one

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Speaker 2: we've had to endure.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think this leads?

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Speaker 2: And is UVa's deal a sort of model that we

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Speaker 2: could see other universities engage on.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Well, what UVA essentially did is agree to actually

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Speaker 11: follow the law. Okay, the law says you can't discriminate

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Speaker 11: in hiring, you can't discriminate in terms of educational opportunities,

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Speaker 11: you can't discriminate based on race in admissions to the school.

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Speaker 11: And they've agreed to do that, and they've agreed to

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Speaker 11: introduce concepts that you would have thought would have been

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Speaker 11: there all along, like diversity of viewpoint things like that.

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Speaker 11: So the fact that UVA has taken those steps is

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Speaker 11: very significant because most of the schools reacting to Trump's

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Speaker 11: proposals are rejecting them out of hand. And the schools

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Speaker 11: are foolish because higher education is in a downward spiral

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Speaker 11: Gallup came out with polling just in September. This is

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Speaker 11: an old polling and it's by Gallup, which showed that

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Speaker 11: the lowest percentage ever of people thought that college degrees

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Speaker 11: are either important or very important. That's astounding. Pew just

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Speaker 11: came out with findings that a super majority of people

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Speaker 11: across political parties, across ethnic groups, across racial groups, believe

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Speaker 11: that higher education is heading in the wrong direction. So

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Speaker 11: higher education is losing the population, but it insists on

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Speaker 11: biting the hand that feeds it, and that's really a problem.

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Speaker 11: And Trump is offering them an off ramp, which is

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Speaker 11: just stop being so crazy leftists. You don't have to

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Speaker 11: be conservative, you don't have to be maga, But how

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Speaker 11: about moving a little bit towards the center, allowed diverse viewpoints,

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Speaker 11: et cetera. And I don't know if higher right is

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Speaker 11: prepared to do that. University of Virginia was and kudos

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Speaker 11: to them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they will likely be thriving because of it.

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you about the other side of

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Speaker 3: that situation, because.

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Speaker 4: You have a lot of Ivy League schools.

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Speaker 3: What other universities in trench liberal institutions like UC Berkeley,

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Speaker 3: UCLA that I think are still going to be resistant

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Speaker 3: to this, even if it hurts their federal funding, even

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Speaker 3: if it hurts their enrollment, even if it hurts their stature.

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Speaker 3: Are you concerned that there are institutions like that that

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Speaker 3: are just going to dig in, Well.

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Speaker 11: It's not so much a concern, it's a reality. I

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Speaker 11: think they will. And the universities in Calnia, the public

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Speaker 11: universities are in a really tough spot because Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 11: has said that if anybody takes a deal with Trump

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Speaker 11: public university, we're cutting you off at the state level.

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Speaker 11: So they've been put in a really impossible position. But

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Speaker 11: put California aside. These other universities, and they include Cornell

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Speaker 11: in them, I include other Ivy League schools. They're so

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Speaker 11: called top tier schools. They really need to reconsider whether

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Speaker 11: the model they have is sustainable. Whether a model where

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Speaker 11: the universities not only do not reflect society, but are

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Speaker 11: hostile to society, yet rely on society in the form

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Speaker 11: of the federal government to fund them, is that really

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Speaker 11: a sustainable model? And I don't think it's sustainable, And

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Speaker 11: I hope more of these schools would be reasonable. Trump

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Speaker 11: came out with this compact for Higher Education. But he's

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Speaker 11: open to negotiate on it. But I think it's seven

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Speaker 11: out of the nine schools he offered it to, including

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Speaker 11: MIT and Brown and a few others have already rejected it.

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Speaker 11: They said, we're not even going to talk about it.

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Speaker 11: You're impinging upon our independence. Well, I say, as somebody

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Speaker 11: who's in academia, who's at an Ivy League school, I say,

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Speaker 11: where has your independence gotten you? It's gotten you into

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Speaker 11: a really bad place where you have an unsustainable model

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Speaker 11: where you have purged conservatives from the faculty. You haven't

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Speaker 11: hired conservatives in twenty years, and this is not sustainable.

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Speaker 11: You just can't keep going this way. But they don't

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Speaker 11: seem to see it that way.

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Speaker 1: You're working on some of eos.

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Speaker 2: When we got about a minute left, I want to

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Speaker 2: ask about this combating anti Zionism, which is I think

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Speaker 2: a code word a lot of times for anti Semitism.

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Speaker 2: Tell us why you took this on and what it

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Speaker 2: will likely result in.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well, I mean, it wasn't something started by me,

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Speaker 11: but it's something that I certainly support, which is to

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Speaker 11: identify the anti Zionist elements who are trying to create

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Speaker 11: Zionist free zones on campuses. We saw that in UCLA

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Speaker 11: they actually set up checkpoints, and that's part of Trump's

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Speaker 11: push for diversity of ideologies. You cannot have Zionist free campuses.

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Speaker 11: That's not permitted, and so I think that's an important

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Speaker 11: initiative that has been started.

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Speaker 4: Professor William Jacobson, we love having you on. Thank you

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Speaker 4: so much for being here, sir, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely all right, everybody coming up after the break.

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Speaker 2: the next step.

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Speaker 6: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 1: John.

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Speaker 3: Last week, when I was out in California, I saw

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Speaker 3: a newslurb about a number of major airports across the

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Speaker 3: country who were refusing to air Homeland Security Secretary Christinomes

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Speaker 3: videos at the airport. Everybody knows when you're standing at

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Speaker 3: line at TSA, you see the secretary up there talking

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Speaker 3: and it's just a rolling video.

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Speaker 4: They play the same thing over and over again.

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Speaker 3: And I thought when I saw that, I was like,

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Speaker 3: oh boy, California airports for sure are going to jump

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Speaker 3: on that bandwagon.

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Speaker 4: To my surprise, last night when I went to Burbank.

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Speaker 3: Airport, good old little it's not a municipal airport, it

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Speaker 3: is bigger than a municipal airport. But they were playing

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Speaker 3: the video and I was quite impressed. They had it

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Speaker 3: on mute, but you know, it was there about that,

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Speaker 3: and I was worried I was going to have issues

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Speaker 3: coming into Reagan because of the lowered workforce.

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Speaker 4: But again no issue.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I know a lot of folks say

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Speaker 3: that the shutdown is hurting a lot of people, but

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Speaker 3: there are a lot of people in this country other

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Speaker 3: than it's not benefits people on Saturday who aren't feeling

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Speaker 3: it at all.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a big thing. It's not benefit.

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Speaker 2: It's going to become the first tangible kitchen table dinner

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Speaker 2: issue to be out there. And will Republicans make Democrats

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Speaker 2: pay for it? Or will they let the message be

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Speaker 2: muddled by the Democrats. Today a prominent Democrat, Congressman Golden

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Speaker 2: from Maine came in and said, my party is lying

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Speaker 2: to the American people. This is not about health subsidies.

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Speaker 2: This is about creating a shutdown to try to turn

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Speaker 2: the tables for twenty twenty six. First, kudos to the

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Speaker 2: congressman for speaking the truth. Secondly, will Republicans pick up

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Speaker 2: on that? And how will they make sure that when

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Speaker 2: these checks don't arrive, they make the Democrats pay for

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Speaker 2: the way Republicans used to pay for shutdowns. That's going

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Speaker 2: to be the big question.

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Speaker 3: And I think there's another line of messaging that Republicans

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Speaker 3: can seize.

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Speaker 4: And you and I talked about.

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Speaker 3: This earlier, and maybe it'll make its way into a

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Speaker 3: story that I write later in the week. But if

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Speaker 3: you take SNAP benefits away from illegal immigrants in this country,

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Speaker 3: how much longer could that program have subsisted for just Americans,

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Speaker 3: for natural worn Americans or naturalized Americans.

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Speaker 2: That is such a valuable statistic to have to be

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Speaker 2: able to show people because a lot of the debt

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Speaker 2: we're in, a lot of the excessive spending we suffer from,

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Speaker 2: a lot of these shutdowns are over things that actually

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Speaker 2: provide no benefit with the American publicans, So being able

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Speaker 2: to show how much longer SNAP could have existed if

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Speaker 2: we didn't have legal aliens, that's that's a good one.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to read that one.

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Speaker 4: Someone should write that. Let's see.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great idea.

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Speaker 3: All right, John, We'll finish up with a few somewhat

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Speaker 3: fun topics, although it wasn't fun for me a few

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Speaker 3: nights ago. But my Blue Jays are in the World

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Speaker 3: Series up against the La Daughters. Now, obviously I lived

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Speaker 3: in LA but my team I'm I'm I am devoted

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Speaker 3: to my husband and his team, the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 4: Here are you picking?

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Speaker 2: I think the Blue Jays are going to come back.

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Speaker 2: I think I think they had one bad night. They're

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Speaker 2: gonna They're gonna win this in six.

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be really, really fun. Yeap, all right, John,

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Speaker 3: this other story that I want to finish up with,

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Speaker 3: and I will admit that I have not been I've

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Speaker 3: never been a game or The last game I probably

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Speaker 3: played was Grand Theft Auto eight years ago.

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Speaker 1: You got me beat. Last one I played was pac Man, So.

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Speaker 3: I know you've played video games since then.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of people are celebrating the fact that

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Speaker 3: the video game Halo is releasing its first installment on

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Speaker 3: Sony PlayStation consoles. Our producer in our ear was saying

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Speaker 3: Xbox is dead and unprecedented development given the fact that

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Speaker 3: the series was exclusive to Microsoft's Xbox ever since two

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Speaker 3: thousand and now. President Trump has gotten involved in the

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Speaker 3: celebration because he jokingly ed that he presided at the

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Speaker 3: end on the end of the console Wars, and the

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Speaker 3: game Stop x account played into the joke by making

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Speaker 3: an AI photo that depicts President Trump shaking hands with

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Speaker 3: master Chief, the main character in the Halo series. So

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Speaker 3: everybody's getting in a little a.

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Speaker 1: New peace tale, but only in the gaming world.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, yeah, So are you gonna go out and

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Speaker 3: play some Halo on the PlayStation console?

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Speaker 1: Nope, No, I only have it atari. I'm not joking,

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Speaker 1: That's all I got. Wait, was did you not see

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Speaker 1: my first laptop typewriter?

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Speaker 6: The first typewriter is a president?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely all right, everybody that's going to do it for us?

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Speaker 3: Somebody fill us in on the whole PlayStation xboxing because

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Speaker 3: I literally neither one of us have forty to speak.

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Speaker 4: All right, everybody, thanks so much for being with us tonight.

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Speaker 3: Grant Sinchfield is going to take you through it the

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Speaker 3: next hour of headlines.

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Speaker 4: But tomorrow night we will be right back here at

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Speaker 4: the same time, same place. That is sixty in eastern

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Speaker 4: Right here, I'm really near his face.