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Here we go one hand and catch at 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Oh baby, used film. Here's Craig Griolu, Paul 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: CALVC and three time pro bowler Kyle Vandenbosch. So, gentlemen, 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: this is the week of the scouting combine and no 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: we are not in Indianapolis. We do have a crew 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: in Indy where general manager Manias and four has already 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: addressed reporters. Head coach Jonathan Gannon will do so later 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: this afternoon. But this also marks the I guess the 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: unofficial starts to the offseason the new league years in 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. But this is the week, Paul, 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: where you basically have everyone in attendance in Indianapolis. You're 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: talking about general managers, players, college prospects. Oh yeah, agents 22 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: as well, and maybe some behind the scenes work towards 23 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: that new league year of March fifteenth off season. What 24 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: does this off season you speak of? Has the off 25 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: season started yet? Has there actually been any downtime whatsoever 26 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: for the Arizona CARDI speak, Yes, as we speak, there's 27 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: heavy construction going on above us here at Cardinals HQ, 28 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: the Dignity Health Training Center, and it's sort of apropos, 29 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: is it not. I mean there's there's heavy construction. It's 30 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: a hardhat zone in more ways than one right now, 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: with thirty or so penning free agents, with all these 32 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: draft picks, maybe future draft picks, depending on whether you're 33 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: gonna get rid of guys like DeAndre Hopkins. Monty was 34 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 1: asked about that. I mean you have a Bucky Brooks 35 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: and mel Kiper with two point on mock drafts out today. 36 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: I mean we got stuff everywhere, Drew. I mean, Kyle, 37 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: do you remember your scouting combine experience. There's gonna be 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: over three hundred draft prospects in Indianapolis you've got the interviews, 39 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: which I think is second most important. It's the medical 40 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: that this is the week four, and then of course 41 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: the television portion, which is the on field workouts later 42 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: this week. I do remember it was a whirlwind, but 43 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, I loved it testing. Getting an opportunity to 44 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: go out there and display show how hard you've worked, 45 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: get an opportunity to compete. I think that's what you know, 46 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: a lot of these coaches and general manners are looking 47 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: for is how you're wired. And you hear that with 48 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: Monti Asenford and Michael Bidwell talk about how some of 49 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: the changes are gonna make it. I know we're gonna 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: talk about that later to how they evaluate players, how 51 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: they decide who they're gonna draft. But you know, your 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 1: look for more a person that fits a mold and 53 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: will they fit into your vision and your organization more 54 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: so than how you know how they run, how high 55 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: they jump, um, even at times you know some of 56 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: the things on tape. You want a guy that is 57 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: a football guy, that's a football junkie that you can 58 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: mold that is going to be a good team player. So, 59 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: you know, I think so much is made of um. 60 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: You know, a guy that runs an unbelievable forty or 61 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: that can you know, jump through the roof. But to me, 62 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: I think you're looking for certain characteristics and players and 63 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: a lot of that will come out in this interview process. 64 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: Sou and you know, the combine, it has evolved so much, 65 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: but it's it's so much more than just player evaluation. 66 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,559 Speaker 1: There's coaches, they're trying to get jobs, there's um networking, 67 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: There's so much that goes on in this short amount 68 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: of time. I mean, I saw I think Derek Carr 69 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: is going there to meet with different teams, so um, 70 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of business that goes on 71 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: there as well. It is a job interview and specifically 72 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: for those college prospects. Now as we speak here on 73 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: this too. So the Cardinals have five draft picks, including 74 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: the third overall. They are projected don't officially have it, 75 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: but they are projected to have three compensatory picks based 76 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: off the free agents that they lost and gained a 77 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,239 Speaker 1: year ago. But when you look at that number three 78 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: overall pick, go back to Montie Austin Ford's introductory press conference, 79 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: he was asked about picking third overall. I hope we 80 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: don't pick third overall. Again, that's for one. The benefit 81 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: is that we're going to be ready to pick a 82 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: premium player that's going to be able to come in 83 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: here and have an impact on our team. There could 84 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: be calls on that pick, and every step along the way, 85 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: we're going to do much best for the team. And 86 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: so if we get a chance to drop back and 87 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: pick up additional picks that'll help build the team, we're 88 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: gonna entertain that. And Monti this morning reiterated that the 89 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: phones or his phone is open and available to perhaps 90 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: move down. Now, how far do you want to move 91 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: down so you don't get the third best edge rusher 92 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: or the third best corner Because at number three, given 93 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: the number of teams, Paul that have needs at quarterback 94 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: and are looking for that future quarterback, you're looking at 95 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: either Jalen Carter or Will Anderson, the top two premium 96 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 1: defensive players, and a lot of people you mentioned, Bucky Brooks, 97 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: mel Kiper Daniel Jeremiah, they put those two. Carter and 98 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: Anderson won two on their big board as far as 99 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: best talent available. Think about it, two of the top 100 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: three teams in this draft have their franchise quarterbacks theoretically 101 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: Justin Fields and Kyler Murray. So, for example, on Mel 102 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: Kuiper's two point on mock Draft today, es Chicago trading 103 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: out twice, trading down from one to two. Houston comes up, 104 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: gets their guy, They get Bryce Young who they want 105 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: it all along, and then all of a sudden, Chicago 106 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: trades out. They can't get an offer again, or they 107 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: get an offer they can't refuse. Indianapolis comes up and 108 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: grab CJ. Stroud. So what you really need for the 109 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, It's for one of these quarterbacks to make 110 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: a run up the board starting with the combine. Whether 111 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: it's Will Levis, whether it's the kid out of Florida, 112 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: any Richardson, Anthony Richardson, somebody needs to make that Mitchell 113 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: Trubisky run up the board, right and then all of 114 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: a sudden, without ever pointing another down and just throwing 115 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: on air and testing real well, a team gets intrigued 116 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: and is willing to come up. Think about that. What if, 117 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: for example, the Cardinals traded from three down to four 118 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: because Indianapolis needs a quarterback el Grande and then boom, 119 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: those two guys are still on the board. Jalen Carter 120 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: or Will Anderson. You've maximized and casting your pick at 121 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: number three and still have the pick of the best 122 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: player on the board beyond quarterback. There's gonna be plenty 123 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: of time Kyle here to sit there and debate whether 124 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: you want the edge rusher or you want the defensive tackle. 125 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: And of course within the division, it's everyone points to 126 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, you can be a game wrecker inside. But 127 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: at number three and given the needs and basically this 128 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: is going to be a brand new team in the 129 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: image of Monti and Jonathan Gannon. What do they want? 130 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: How do they see this offense and defense being molded 131 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: in their image to where maybe it is best to 132 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: move down to acquire more picks. Yeah, I mean my 133 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: first instinct is, you know, this team looking at next season, 134 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: This team is not one impact player away from competing 135 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: from being a playoff team. You know, if if the 136 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: offer is right, I think quantity is probably better than 137 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: quality at the top of the draft. But the Cardinals 138 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: sit in a great situation. It's like someone knocks on 139 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: your door and makes an offer for your house. You 140 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: know you listed as make me an offer. I'm not 141 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: looking to move. I don't want I want to stay 142 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: in my house, but you've got this position where I 143 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: don't need a quarterback. If somebody comes in and is 144 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: desperate and needs to come up to number three because 145 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: they fell in love with the way one of the 146 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: like Paulie said, one of the way one of these 147 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: guys was slinging it at their pro day. You know, 148 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: make me an offer, make me an offer. I can't refuse. 149 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: And that's a situation you're in. And if you sit 150 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: pat do you potentially have two uh you know, pro bowlers, 151 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: two guys that can get after the quarterback, two different 152 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: makers in the trenches on the defensive line, something this 153 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: team also needs. So it's it's a great position they 154 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: sit in. Um, you know, either one of these two players, 155 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: you know they project to be great impact players. Um, 156 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, can get after the quarterback, can be every 157 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: down players, can be can develop into Pro Bowl type 158 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: players and impact type players and win you games late 159 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: in a half, late in the fourth quarter. But you know, somebody, 160 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: somebody will fall in love with the quarterback and they will, 161 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: they will, you know, ransom the farm to try to 162 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: move up to get to that number three picks so 163 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: that they can get their guy. I mean, if Zach 164 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: Wilson can go number two overall recently, if Trey Lance 165 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: can go number three overall with the Niners given up 166 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: three first round picks. Anthony Richardson. I just did a 167 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: quick check. CBS Sports just put out a story. The 168 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: sports books are now installing Anthony Richardson. They're putting odds 169 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: him going number one overall. Well, think about that, Think 170 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: about how impressive he might be. Once upon a time, 171 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: JaMarcus Russell did it. I'm going to throw that football 172 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: right over them their mountains, right, Uncle Rico and just boom. 173 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: And so that would be great, absolutely outstanding for the 174 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals if they could somehow leverage that. And the 175 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: talk in Indianapolis and going into Indy about Bryce Young 176 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: is how much is he going to weigh? A couple 177 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: of years ago, Kyle, it was how tall is Kyler Murray? Now? 178 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: With Bryce Young, regardless of what he did at Alabama 179 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: and how successful he was, is he going to be 180 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: two hundred pounds? Because right now I think he's probably 181 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: about one nine ninety two, And that scares awful lot 182 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: of teams, even despite how successful he was. Right and 183 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: you know the reason Aaron Donald wasn't picked higher was 184 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: because he was undersized and wasn't big enough. I mean, 185 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: it's it's stupid to me, it's stupid. I mean I 186 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: would be a horrible GM because I would watch tape. 187 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: I would find out how these guys practice and if 188 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: their dudes, I'm drafting regardless of their measurables, regardless of 189 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: their forty or their vertical leap. I mean, if a 190 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: football player can play football and has put it on 191 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: film and has done it over and over and over 192 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: throughout his college career, you take that guy. I mean, 193 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: if he's a playmaker, he's a playmaker. There's plenty of 194 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: track guys that will show up at this combine and 195 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: just wow everybody and make make gms around the league 196 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: salivate because of how fast they can run, but they 197 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: haven't done squat. And to Pauli's point, you know, Trey 198 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: Lance had very little experience. I mean, he had barely 199 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: even played quarterback in college, and you know the Niners 200 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: are willing to ransom their farm to try to get him. 201 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: And I just think you you've got to find out 202 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: who the real football players are. And the only way 203 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: you do that is not from watching them, you know, 204 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: run a forty in tight, tight shorts, but from watching 205 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: their football film, seeing how they played, seeing what they 206 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: did in the fourth quarter of a big game, whether 207 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: they know looking for a place to hide or whether 208 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: they were thumping their chest saying you know, I'm the guy, 209 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to make the play and I'm going to 210 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: step up, because those are the guys that you need 211 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: on your team. You can be as athletic as anybody 212 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: in there, but remember you're throwing on air, whether it's 213 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: at the combine or at your pro day, and then 214 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: you're running a forty in T shirt and shorts, and 215 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: no one runs a forty during a game on Sunday. 216 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: So a lot of these drills you're just looking for 217 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: a baseline to compare player to player. But Lonnie austin Ford, 218 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: his first time as a general manager, now running a draft, 219 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: he was asked back at his introductory press conference what 220 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: he learned all those years with the New England Patriots. 221 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: Every day going to work was a masterclass education of 222 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: how to build a football roster and how to build 223 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: a winning organization. There are core beliefs that I believe 224 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: that I will take from there as I will take 225 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: from every step along my way that I planned to 226 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: bring here and put my own spin on it and 227 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: make it the card in a way. Of course, there 228 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: were those seethes previous three seasons with the Tennessee Titans 229 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: as well, and we already get a little bit of 230 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: a glimpse inside that draft room, if you will, as 231 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: far as where this process is headed for the Arizona Cardinals. 232 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: A little bit too late for Monty to put his 233 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: stamp on how they evaluate players right now, but next 234 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: season there is going to be big change with respects 235 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: now the Cardinals look at the draft. Owner Michael Bidwell 236 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: explains on the Day Past podcast. You know, we've talked 237 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: about our system, which is about to be our former system, 238 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: a best player available for draft and things along those lines. 239 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: He comes from a completely different system, and I would 240 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: call it the new England system with a little bit 241 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: of a modification. And that's where they're looking for specific 242 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: type of players with specific types of characteristics, and they're 243 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: not worried about what everybody else thinks. And we're just 244 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: changing systems here. It's not going to look much different 245 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: this year. What Monty didn't want to do is because 246 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: a lot of scouting has happened, But going into the 247 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three college football season, we're going to make 248 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: that full change as soon as the draft is over, 249 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: and then the twenty four draft will look a lot 250 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: like a modified New England, modified Tennessee system. Don't know 251 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: what those changes will be, Paul, but it certainly sounds 252 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: like as opposed to all right, it's best player available. Yeah, 253 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: you don't want to leave talent on the board, but 254 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: what do we as the Arizona Cardinals want or see 255 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: in a player, whether it's this season or hopefully five 256 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: fifteen years down the road, that they can be the 257 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: centerpiece of the offense or defense. It's got to go 258 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: beyond the measurables. There's got to be that fit. There 259 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: has to be that playmaker on film. One of the 260 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: best things I've heard is what the gmmani asen Fort 261 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: told our Darren urban Acy Cardinals dot Com before he 262 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: left for the combine, where he said, you know what, yes, 263 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: we have a collapsed time frame and you know our 264 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: coaches are getting on board, but we're to go. And 265 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: then he went on to say, you know what, medicals 266 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: the number one thing, as you mentioned, their agree everyone 267 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: finds that boring. I get it, and then the interview 268 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: is very valuable. And then he says that I quote 269 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: the on field work, the testing, it's another piece of information, 270 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't say it's a driver of anything on 271 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: how and what we make our decisions to be. So 272 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,359 Speaker 1: to me, okay, you're going to factor in the measurables 273 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: obviously to a degree. But can they play? Do they fit? 274 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: Those are the two big questions that you need to answer. 275 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: And then once you determine, all right, what is our culture? 276 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: What are the coaches looking for? So this system that's 277 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: about to be the former system, well, you got to 278 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: get to know your coaches, and I think there's already 279 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: pretty good familiarity, and I think it's one of the 280 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: big reasons Jonathan Gannon was hired by many astin for 281 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: But they have to collaborate and figure out, Okay, what 282 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: does an Arizona cardinal look like on either side of 283 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: the ball, each position group. And then you can go 284 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: out and you can target guys this time of year, 285 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: and you can acquire those guys in free agency and 286 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: come the draft as opposed to you know what, this 287 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: guy six five runs a four three eight forty and 288 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: the three cone drill. Okay, let's take him, but he 289 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: might not be a great fit and he might not 290 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: have the mentality you need for the way you play ball. 291 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: I'll add this as well, Kyle, do you have the 292 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: passion for this game and all? The perfect example is 293 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker. He has the passion to play, as opposed 294 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: to some just play because they're big, they're strong, and 295 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: that's what they've been told their entire life. But do 296 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: you love the game? Will you put the work in 297 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: to be successful on Sundays? That's harder to figure out 298 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: ahead of time, it is, and that's why the interviews 299 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: are important. That's why you go talk to their college coaches, 300 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: That's why you talk to their high school coaches. That's 301 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: why you know, you know, especially with the number three pick, 302 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: if we stay there, you want to make sure that 303 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: this is somebody that you can depend on, that you 304 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: can build your team around. And look, this draft is vitally, 305 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: vitally important because for a number of reasons, but you know, 306 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: you can't you can't build a sustainable team. And that's 307 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: what we hear from monty As and Ford, and that's 308 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: what we hear from JG is you know, we want 309 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: to be a good team for years to come. You 310 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: can't do that through free agency. You can't do that 311 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: through trades. You've got to draft well. You've got to 312 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: draft the type of players that you know fit your system, 313 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: and you have to develop those draft picks. It's something 314 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: that's been lacking with this organization the last few years 315 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: is really it's not even necessarily we missed on a guy. 316 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: It's the development of the players and getting the most 317 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: out of them. And you hear JG say this, helping 318 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: guys reach their ceiling and not being happy with where 319 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: they're at, not writing them off, saying, you know, we 320 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: made a mistake here. This guy isn't the guy we 321 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: thought he was. We need to help this player reach 322 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: their ceilings. And you do that only by finding guys 323 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: that want to reach their ceilings, that aren't satisfied with 324 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: being a high draft pick or satisfied with being on 325 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: an NFL club. There's two types of players that make 326 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: your team good. Early on, it's you try to make 327 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: the team, and once you're a stablish you try to 328 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: make the team. You're trying to make the team better, 329 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: bring other players along with you provide that type of leadership, 330 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: and that's the type of culture that they're trying to establish. Here. 331 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: Can I give you a real time example. Look at 332 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: some of these mock drafts that have the Cardinals already 333 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: taking Tyree Wilson instead of will Anderson. Now, Tyree Wilson 334 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: might be a Hall of Famer for all I know, 335 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: but he hasn't even shown up in the combine yet, 336 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: whereas will Anderson just had twenty seven and a half 337 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: sacks and fifty four tackles for loss in two years 338 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 1: at Alabama, two time SEC Defensive Player of the Year 339 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: who was nicknamed by his teammates the Terminator. So go 340 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: to the film, make sure you don't make a mistake, 341 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: because ty Tyrie Wilson is gonna show up six six, 342 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: two seventy five. He's gonna look great, But who's the 343 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: better player. Wilson looks the part has the measurables, but 344 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: the production on the field that you've got to figure 345 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: out as well. Again, it's going to be a fascinating 346 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: look this week and the several weeks before we get 347 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: to the end of April and the Cardinals are on 348 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: the clock with that third overall e this is the 349 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals radio network and that strong safety from North 350 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: Carolina state number twenty four. Adrian Wilson. Yeah, I always 351 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: want to try to make myself that guy being a 352 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: guy that's gonna go out there and set a tone 353 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: for the defense. Put it up a little bit home boy. 354 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that dim moment. No, I game a stinger 355 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 1: down there. I want to I want to hit. That's 356 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: my job scrip. I always try to let my play 357 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: kind of dictate to the other guys, you know, how 358 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: how they should go about their business. Hey boy, I'm 359 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: gonna get this if I nothing's wrong boy tones the 360 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: boy I ain't really trash talking to me is to 361 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: me is making my point. Adrian Wilson came over the top. 362 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: That lowered the antlers. You've been wired in to. Adrian 363 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: Wilson a double long time Arizona Cardinal, first as a player, 364 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: then a front office executive. Hard to believe, but the 365 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: man who could stare you down, Paul stare right through you. 366 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: Maybe you know a pleasantry or two. As Darren urban 367 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: Rode on Easy Cardinals dot Com didn't smile often, at 368 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: least to those close to him. But Adrian Wilson, now 369 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers VP player personnel that made official on Monday, 370 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: Ate up no longer in Arizona Cardinal. He lightened up 371 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit after his playing career, 372 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: maybe to some little bit, but I smile. I hear 373 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: that montage executed so well by our Jim Amhandro, and 374 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: I just smile because you think of the many different 375 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: personalities that is Adrian Wilson, the man, right, the very 376 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: complex human being. Or the times in the locker room 377 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: during a game week you look across and I'd hold 378 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: up the microphone like you're talking today, and he'd just 379 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: stare you down like you said, gree and shake his 380 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: head absolutely not get away. I wouldn't even come across 381 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: the lock room. There were times during games where, I mean, 382 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: you think of some of the hits he leading. I 383 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: think of at Baltimore they hit on Todd Heap. I 384 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: think everyone remembers that every long time Cardinals fan just like, wow, Okay, 385 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: that's why you get paid the big bucks in the 386 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: NFL to take hits like that. And then you know 387 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: just the fact that he committed himself after his playing 388 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: career did two or three years where as he said, 389 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: I'm a grinder, and he went to work and he 390 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: did all the grunt work every other personnel intern does, 391 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: making runs through the airport, picking up VIPs, grinding all 392 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: the film. So look, congrats to a Dub not only 393 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: on an unbelievable Ring of honor career, but when he's 394 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: done in his post plane days and he appears to 395 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: be on track to one day be an NFL GM. 396 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: Twelve seasons with the Arizona Cardinals, a five time pro bowler, 397 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: same draft class as you, Kyle, as far as it 398 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: was you in the second round, a Dub in the 399 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: third round back in two thousand and one. Yeah, hats 400 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: off to him. Look, twenty two years with this organization. 401 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: He gave it his all, um, you know, and he 402 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: he had that calm demeanor after his playing career, but 403 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: you could hear there the way he played. And you know, 404 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: we just got done talking about what type of characteristics 405 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: uh gms look for in a player. I mean he 406 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: was Buddha Baker before Buddha Baker. I mean he was 407 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: flying all over the field, um, hitting anything that moved. Um, 408 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: you know, an offensive coordinators, Um, they they lost a 409 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: lot of sleep worrying about Adrian Wilson and what he 410 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: could do to that football team. And then you know 411 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: the statistics that he put up and the numbers he 412 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: put up for as long as he did. Um, what 413 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: an impressive playing career, and he's putting together an impressive 414 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: post playing career in the NFL. Um widely respected not 415 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: just by people in this building, widely respected by people 416 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: throughout the NFL for his knowledge, for you know, as 417 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: you talked about, for his work ethic, the way he 418 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: crins and the and you know you you you tip 419 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: your hat to him, and you wish him well. And 420 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: even though he will be wearing different colors and be 421 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: a part of a different organization, he will always be 422 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: an Arizona Cardinal. You go back to the Cardinal's Super 423 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: Bowl run in two thousand and eight, and you think, Okay, 424 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: how did that happen? What was the pivot point, the 425 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: turning point? In a lot of ways, it was Adrian 426 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: Wilson signing a second contract with the Arizona Cardinals. You know, 427 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: Kyle early two thousands Pro Bowl caliber players they got 428 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: around contract time. A lot of times they'd use the 429 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals as leverage and they go elsewhere. Adrianal said, Nope, 430 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay right here. We're gonna turn this thing around. 431 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna build this thing from the ground up, the 432 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: culture inside out, from this locker room, and we're gonna 433 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: put a winner on the field. And if you look 434 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: at when things started to turn, it was really in 435 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: sync with an Adrian Wilson made a commitment to the 436 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals and it's one of the many reasons his 437 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: name is up on that stadium. Well, what's the one 438 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: word that we have repeatedly talked about with Monteasin Ford 439 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: and Jonathan Gannon since their arrival. Accountability and abood whole 440 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: you accountable in that locker room. You need guys in 441 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: that locker room. And do your point, Kyle, as far 442 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: as what are the Cardinals looking for? That passion to 443 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: play the game, the willingness to do whatever it takes 444 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: to be successful, not individually but as a team. And 445 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: yes a dub has all the individual stats, but he 446 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: wanted to win here and did get this team to 447 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. And it's the way he played, like 448 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: you talked about and I talked about this last week. 449 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: There is nothing more selfless than throwing your body around 450 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: a football field. I mean, you're you're not worried about tomorrow. 451 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: You're not worried about how you're gonna feel getting up 452 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: off the ground. You don't even think about you know, 453 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: what's going to happen in five years when I'm done 454 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: playing this game. You do it because your team needs 455 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: you to do it. And it's not always just about 456 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: you know a lot of times you could have a 457 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: nice form tackle and get a guy down, but the 458 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: energy it brings when you make a big play, When you, 459 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: as Paulie talked about, you have that big hit, it 460 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: changes games. It changes the outcomes of games, and it 461 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: lists the level of play of every single player. And 462 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: we've seen it with Buddha Baker, the way he does things, 463 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: the way he goes to buy his business, and when 464 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: he flies around the field and makes those big plays, 465 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: it lifts the entire team. And that's what Adrian Wilson 466 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: brought to this team as well. Adub made it very 467 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: clear and a lengthy thank you notes on social media 468 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: that this was his decision he wanted to leave, and 469 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: Paul as you mentioned, there is at some point, whether 470 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: it's next season or the seasons down the road, a 471 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: dub is going to be a general manager. Interviewed for 472 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: the vacancy here, did not get it and probably needed 473 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: to go elsewhere in order to get that spot. So 474 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers VP player personnel currently with the Cardinals. 475 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: That is a position held by Quentin Harris. You look 476 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: at that Cardinals front office with Monty, he brings in 477 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: assistant Dave Sears, who comes from the Detroit Lions. So 478 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: you're trying to see who fits within the organization a 479 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 1: different set of eyes, and who is Dave Sears. I 480 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 1: think we're going to get to know a lot more 481 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: about him in the coming weeks, especially this week at 482 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: the Scouting Combine. But one particular person who knows Sears 483 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: very well, Chris Spielman, Lion Special Assistant to the President 484 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: and CEO and chairperson. This a while back on Wolf 485 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: and Luke on Arizona Sports. He is as a talented 486 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: evaluator as I've been around, and I've been around a 487 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: lot of them in my football life. He is a 488 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: team guy. He is a leader because he led our 489 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: college department. He's a great communicator. He's not looking to 490 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: serve Dames Sears. He's looking to serve the Arizona Cardinals. 491 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: Probably one of the humblest, smartest football men I've been around, 492 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: the young guy. I think it's no surprise that he 493 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: was plucked from our staff people that know him and 494 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: had been around him. He knows what he's doing, and 495 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: he's excellent as a talent evaluator, and that's the key 496 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: pall as to evaluate talent, whether it's college draft prospects 497 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: or free agents who this team brings in to form 498 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three Arizona Cardinals NFL dot Com. Just 499 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: in an offseason ranking of last year's draft classes, Lions 500 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: had a top five draft class. You look at some 501 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: of the players they got in the Day two and 502 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: Day three of the draft, very impressive. You look at 503 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: the turnaround the Lions just executed right at the end 504 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: of this past season, narrowly missing the playoffs. Think of 505 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: the degree of difficulty in rebuilding the Detroit Lions and 506 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: Dave Sears is a big part of that and a 507 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: big part of trying to identify players who have the 508 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: mindset what Kyle was talking about. Do they love the game, 509 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: do they play the game all out? Do they give 510 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: you everything they have on every snap. They really made 511 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: that a focus of their draft classes to find that 512 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: kind of guy, and so I fully expect that to 513 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: be the mo That's what the Cardinals are trying to 514 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: do this week in Indie, drill down during these player interviews. 515 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,959 Speaker 1: And I like the fact that Dave Sears has been 516 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: there and done that most recently trying to identify those 517 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: kind of guy and having a very high success rate 518 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: with the Detroit Lions and what they've been able to 519 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: achieve with some of their young players in those draft 520 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: classes the last couple of years. And it's not just 521 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: the first round pick, Kyle, that's the pick that gets 522 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: all the attention, But who are you getting on Day 523 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: three in those latter half of those fourth through the 524 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: seventh round, or even some undrafted free agents that might 525 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: slip through the crack, but you see something, you foresee 526 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: something in them that they can contribute right away. Yeah, 527 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: And there's no part of the draft where those characteristics 528 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: are more important than the back end of the draft, 529 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: because these are the guys that are you know, they 530 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: could be starters, that could be Pro Bowlers, but these 531 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: are the guys that are filling out the back of 532 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: your roster. That you need to depend on. Into Paulie's point, 533 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, nobody wanted to play the Detroit Lions last year. 534 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: It's it's the Detroit Lions. But they were going to 535 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: beat you up. They were physical, and they came with 536 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: a certain mentality. And it didn't all just come from 537 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: the head coach. They brought in players that tried to 538 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: match the head coach and see that same type of energy, intensity, 539 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: the call for violence from the head coach. You know, 540 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: so you can anticipate that they're going to look for 541 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,479 Speaker 1: the same type of players from the same type of 542 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: mold that the Detroit Lions brought in last year, players 543 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: that understand, Look, football is a physical game. I'm going 544 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: to have to go out there. Training camp is not 545 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: going to be easy, you know. Week fifteen Wednesday practice 546 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: isn't always going to be a walk through. We're gonna 547 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: get after and you got to find those guys that 548 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: love that, that embraced that, and that's what the Lions did. 549 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: That's what Dave Sears was a part of. He was 550 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: a part of those decisions on which guys to take, 551 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: which guy's mentality matched the organization's vision, and he helped 552 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: bring them in and so you've got you know, you 553 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: can see that. That's why Dave Sears is here because 554 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: he has been around that type of turnaround and been 555 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: around that type of mentality and an organization. Heard about 556 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: just as much about the Lions at the end of 557 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: the season, the fact that they did not make the 558 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: postseason and one of those teams that no one in 559 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: the NFC wanted to face. So they are knocking on 560 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: that door this year. Cardinals want to get back into 561 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: that postseason. They want to be one of those seven 562 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: teams that have a chance at the Super Bowl. Interesting 563 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: to see who's going to be on the field for 564 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: those games this upcoming season. As we continue here on 565 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: the Cardinal's Red Sea Report presented by SIKI Your Ticket 566 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: to Great Seats. As I mentioned the new league year 567 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: March fifteenth, the starts of free agency. Cardinals have thirty 568 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: unrestricted free agents. How many of those are priority free agents? 569 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: How many do we want to see return in an 570 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals uniform. So we've hit halftime here on the 571 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals Red Sea Reports. Here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, 572 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: bake Field is trouble steps up. Zack by Zach Allen 573 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: back at the twenty yard Allen with a couple of 574 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: big plays here today. Shotgun stat Mayfield three step drop 575 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: hast time throws right side Pettitt down and complete. Zach Allen. Boy, 576 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: what a game he's had. This defense came to play today. 577 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: They came to play today, and they are Paul and Old. 578 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: Right now. Mayfield's gonna throw Pettitt in the year again, 579 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: this time by Allan Pettison complete, Zach Allen got a 580 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: hand up. Football hits the ground hit complete. Cardinals takeover 581 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: on downs, mad Roll rolled the dice, came up, snake guys. 582 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: Because of Zach Allen Alan playing maybe the best game 583 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: of his career Week four at the Carolina Panthers, Cardinals 584 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: win twenty six sixteen. And yes, it's a big reason 585 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: why Zach Allen what he was able to do in 586 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: that game, what he was able to do all season long, 587 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: outside of the last four weeks when a hand injury 588 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: kept him off the football field. But for two seasons now, gentlemen, 589 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: we've seen Zach Allen, I think, take major steps forward 590 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: in his career and now he is about ready to 591 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: get paid. He is one of the thirty unrestricted free agents. 592 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: Now some places you'll see the number at thirty three. 593 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: But remember JJ Watt is retiring, AJ Green is retiring, 594 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: Chris Banjo retired, now part of the Denver Bronco's coaching staff. 595 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: So the number is thirty. It is a lot, Kyle, 596 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: But for me, when you look at the names on 597 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: that list, Zach Allen stands first and foremost among all 598 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: those players. Yeah, and it's not necessarily where he's at. 599 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: His arrow is still pointing up. I mean, you can 600 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: see him every single year he's been here. He's improving, 601 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: The game is slowing down for him. He's more of 602 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: a factor in every game. I mean, just looking at 603 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: last year. Look, his numbers don't jump off of the 604 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: sheet at you just his production. But if you watched 605 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: the games, there's so many times he's in the backfield. 606 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: There's countless times where he's got the quarterback wrapped up 607 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: around the legs as he's throwing it. Um. He impacts games. 608 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: And again, it's not necessarily his tackles for a loss. 609 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: It's not necessarily his sack numbers, which have improved. It's 610 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: it's how he plays the game, and he plays it 611 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: the right way, plays with an edge plays with an energy, UM. 612 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: And you know you've got a little bit of a 613 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: glimpse into the type of person he is from from 614 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: the in season hard knocks and he's just a great 615 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: locker room guy. He's well liked, well respected. UM. I 616 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: think that, as you said, of the pending free agents, 617 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: I think he has to be the number one priority. UM. 618 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: And and again with this staff, I would think that 619 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: they could look at him and see him as a 620 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: player that's still ascending and that you're going to get 621 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: more out of. And he's a guy that can be 622 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 1: one of the key cogs that you build not just 623 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: build your team around, but build your scheme around. As 624 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: this scheme evolves, UM, you know under Jonathan Gannon, UM 625 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 1: you can and you know count on him to do 626 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: his job and scheme up things to help him be 627 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: more disruptive and more productive. And there's just the knee 628 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: paul at defensive line. When you look at the current roster, 629 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: who's under contract, who's not under contract, there is a 630 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: need on that defensive line, no doubt. Look, we documented 631 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: this and I think this is gonna change. This is 632 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: gonna be one big change with the new decision makers, 633 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: starting with gm, Manias and Ford. Over the last fifteen drafts, 634 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals in the first two rounds have taken 635 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: how many defensive linemen two if you don't include Kalis Campbell, 636 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: because that's all the way back in two thousand and eight. 637 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: Think about that. Robert Kimdici was one and then Dan 638 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: Williams the nose guard was the other, both very late 639 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: in round one. So Zach Allen as a top of 640 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: round three pick a few years ago and a guy 641 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: who's had some phenomenal games, remember twenty twenty, Yet that 642 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: game against the Eagles that was historic. He did something 643 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: only three or four defensive linemen had done. So we've 644 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: seen that was minus of JJ Watt. I'd be like, oh, 645 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: JJ Watts next to him. No, that wasn't the case 646 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: two years ago, twenty twenty one. And to Kyle's point, 647 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: you got to watch the games. How many times JJ 648 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: Watt was not in the game and Zach Allen was 649 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,280 Speaker 1: still busting through the double team and getting this close 650 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: right the quarterback pressure, maybe a quarterback hit. I can't 651 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: tell you how many times the first two thirds of 652 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: the season he'd come back to the bench and he 653 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: was frustrated because he was this close to getting yet 654 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,479 Speaker 1: another sack, and then finally the sack started to come. 655 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: He started to pile up some of the stats out there, 656 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: but he was creating a lot of stuff and a 657 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: lot of opportunities for other guys to get home because 658 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: he was such a penetrating force in the middle of 659 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: that defensive front. Day three pick. You want to keep 660 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: those draft picks. You want to reward them if they've 661 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: earned it, and I do believe Zach Allen has earned that. 662 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: Where is he on the list of things to do 663 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: this offseason? On to Michael Bidwall on the Dave Patch Podcast, 664 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: defensive line, especially in the NFC West, We're going to 665 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: need a really good defensive line, and you know, with 666 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: the retirement of JJ Watt, we've got a big to 667 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: fill there. We got to see if we can get 668 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: Zach Allen resigned and which we're interested in doing, and 669 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: get that going. And I think he wants to be here, 670 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: So I think there are gonna be a lot of 671 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: things on the to do list. Some other names on 672 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: the list of expected unrestricted free agents. Remember, the Cardinals 673 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: can resign their own between now and the start of 674 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: the new league year. But at this point you get 675 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: this close to free agency, a lot of those players 676 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: are going to see what their markets is, their value 677 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: is on the open market. But Kyle, you're looking at 678 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: a Byron Murphy, another draft pick. And then on the 679 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: offensive side, if you talk about in the trenches on 680 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: the offensive line, Calvin Beecham, yeah up there in age, 681 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: but a solid right tackle hor Nandez who came in 682 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: and played a stellar guard for the Cardinals in his 683 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: first season, his only season with the Cardinals. So you're 684 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: looking at d line and offensive line at least to me, 685 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: where this Cardinals team when you look at your own 686 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: free agents. Yeah, you know a lot of this we 687 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: already talked about. A big piece of the combine is 688 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: the medical part. While a lot of it is you know, 689 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: what is Bayern Murphy dealing with? What was his back injury? 690 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: Is it something that was just a blip and he's 691 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: fine and he's good to go go moving forward? You know, look, 692 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: it's got to be a consideration and all the decisions 693 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: the Cardinals making this upcoming season that the injury situation 694 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: last year was just out of control. And you know, 695 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: to me, that's why a player like Calvin Beecham, where 696 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: you know, he's not the fastest guy in the football field, 697 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: he's not the strongest guy in the football field, but 698 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: he was there every single week, a guy you can 699 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: count on and you don't have to shuffle your lineup 700 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: every single week at tackle. You know, the fact that 701 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,439 Speaker 1: he showed the heart to fight through injury and play 702 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,280 Speaker 1: through an ankle injury late in the season when games 703 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily matter and he could have easily mailed it 704 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 1: in and said, you know, I can't play this week, 705 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: I'm in too much pain. He fought through that. So 706 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: you know, I think some of those things will weigh 707 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: into the decision making process, Like, you know, is this 708 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: a guy that we know is going to be there 709 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: for us at least the majority of the Sundays. But 710 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: you know, going back to Byron Murphy, you know, it 711 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago the first quarter of the season 712 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: where he was playing at an elite level and it 713 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: didn't matter who the number one wide receiver was lined 714 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 1: up across from him. They weren't catching very many balls 715 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: and they weren't targeted very often because of how good 716 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: his coverage was. So he has that type of ability 717 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: you know, so these are some tough decisions, but I 718 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: would think, you know, Byron Murphy is a huge part 719 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 1: of it. Calvin Beach and Will Hernandez was solid specifically. 720 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: You know, you can envision this team being really physical 721 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: in the trenches on both sides of the ball, and 722 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: that's what Will Hernandez brings. He brought that a little 723 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 1: bit of nastiness to training camp. We saw it. He's 724 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: a physical player. He can open up holes in the 725 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: run game. So he would also be a valuable player 726 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: to bring back in my opinion, Beach him in the 727 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: last three seasons has started forty eight games. Wow, and 728 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: he has the respect of everyone in that locker room. 729 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: That's just one of the reasons why. To your point, 730 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: he was really banged up, dealing with multiple injuries the 731 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: last month of the season, wasn't practicing most Wednesdays and Thursdays. 732 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: Still found a way to get out there anchor that 733 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: offensive line, be the lone guy to start on the 734 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: offense the entirety of this season. Josh Jones was given 735 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: every opportunity in camp to beat out Kelvin Beecham. Didn't happen, 736 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: really wasn't even close. So at his age, I think 737 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: he's still a viable option at right tackle. You got 738 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: to look to the future. What is the future of 739 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: a Josh Jones. Will Hernandez still a lot to like 740 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: They're still in his prime. I think the underrated position 741 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: going into the offseason and the Cardinals might a either 742 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,800 Speaker 1: spend some real money on in free agency or a 743 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: high draft pick is center. I think just the team 744 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: has a newfounder appreciation for what a really skilled, experienced, 745 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: smart center can do for an offense. And if you 746 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: can find a younger guy with some upside in many 747 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 1: years to come in the league and pair him up 748 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray, especially if Kyler Murray wants to be 749 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: under center more, or at least the coaches want him 750 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: under center more. I think that's that's something I have 751 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: my eye out for. And when your head coach comes 752 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 1: from Philly, who has possibly the best center in the NFL, 753 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 1: and you know they had possibly the best offensive line 754 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL, but he was the best. He was 755 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: the one that led the group. He's the one that 756 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 1: got everybody on the same page. He's the guy that 757 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: can snap it and pull and climb up to a safety. 758 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: If you can find that type of center, a guy 759 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: that you can you know, that you know is going 760 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 1: to get your offensive line all on the same page, 761 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: that is going to get them in the right blocking 762 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 1: schemes and is going to be able to pick up 763 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 1: the blitzes and all of that. That is a huge asset. 764 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,720 Speaker 1: It's an underrated asset, but every offense, if it's gonna function, 765 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: you need a center that can operate that offensive line 766 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: and lead the group. A lot of conversations about the roster, 767 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: what the general manager wants, want, the head coach, and 768 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: visions as far as the offense and defense. One more 769 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 1: from owner Michael Bidwall as he talked about those conversations 770 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: on the Day Patch podcast number one. We spend a 771 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: lot of time talking about Kyler and what type of 772 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: offense we should be running, and how to protect him 773 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: and where we should be spending our money. We've got 774 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: a lot of money tied up in a couple of 775 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: different positions, and so I think you're gonna see that change. 776 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna I think you're gonna see us beefing up 777 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: the offensive line, the defensive line. We've got to get 778 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: help at corner. We've got to get a just more 779 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: protection for Kyler, and then we've got to be able 780 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 1: to rush the passers, especially in the NFC West. Three 781 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: more positions, Paul, I know you'll keep your eye on 782 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: these three positions. But for the second time now in 783 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: the last three seasons, the Cardinals have a vacancy at kicker, punter, 784 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: and long snapper. Yeah, I keep an eye on him 785 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,680 Speaker 1: because I keep an eye out not to get in 786 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: their way on the sideline. Do not want to get 787 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: between the punter or the kicker and the kicking net 788 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: because that'll be your own demise at your own expense, 789 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 1: and or the long snapper target practice if you walk 790 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: in between him and the holder on the sidelines. So 791 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 1: you learn that real quick. But look money as supported 792 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: at today during the press conference, he said, among other 793 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: things as well, that Isaiah Simmons fifthier option, they're still 794 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 1: deciding they have till May. They're going to take their time, 795 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: They're open for business on the number three pick. Undecided 796 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: on the future of DeAndre Hopkins, and so there could 797 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: be a lot up chain real soon in that locker room. 798 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: It's not just the unrestricted free agents have about the 799 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: current players on the roster as well. We continue we 800 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: do it every Tuesday all year round. It's the Cardinals 801 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: Red Sea Report, presented by Seki Your Ticket to Great Seats. 802 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: This is the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. I have a 803 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: system that I believe in and that's where we're going 804 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: to focus our time and attention. And we are going 805 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: to use traditional scouting methods. We are going to use 806 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: analytical scouting methods, and we are going to every step 807 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: of the way check our work, make sure we're not 808 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: missing something, and continue to add competition to this roster 809 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: at every opportunity that we have during the league year. 810 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,359 Speaker 1: Change is coming and we've already seen it this offseason. 811 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: New general manager, new head coach, new offensive coordinator, how 812 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: about just an offensive coordinator period, new defensive coordinator? Now, 813 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: just what kind of a roster is this team going 814 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 1: to put on the football field? And yes, this week 815 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: everyone looking at Indianapolis the twenty twenty three scouting combine. 816 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 1: General manager Money Austin Ford has addressed reporters, Paul, you 817 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: brought it up and our most recent segment as far 818 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: as some of the questions about the future of DeAndre Hopkins, 819 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: they have Mets don't know the future of d hop 820 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: as far as whether that is here or elsewhere, Isaiah 821 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: Simmons's future, that fifth round or that fifth year option 822 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: needs to be exercised by the first week of May 823 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: or not exercise, making him an unrestricted free agent at 824 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: the end of twenty twenty three. So, as we talked about, 825 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: it's not just those free agents, but what do you 826 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 1: do with the current players? Yeah, and you're opening a business, 827 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, and phone calls from the number three picks, 828 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: So look, in a lot of ways, it could be 829 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: fifty two card pickup. You're throwing them out there and 830 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 1: you're gonna figure out how this all fits. In fact, 831 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 1: if you're the coaches, the roster is so wide open, 832 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you even know what you want 833 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: to run yet. If you're truly that adaptable as a 834 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: staff on both sides of the ball, what is the 835 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,720 Speaker 1: identity of this team? What is the strength of this team? 836 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: How do you cater to the players? It's almost impossible 837 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: right now because it's such an unknown. What is his 838 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: final roster gonna look like? So look as far as 839 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: d hop goes, and if you can cash that in 840 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: for like a low first round pick or a high 841 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: second round pick, and I think you can argue all 842 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: day long. Look with some of the premier wide receivers, 843 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: number one wide receivers have done for some of those 844 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: teams who are real close to competing. For example, I 845 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: know the Cleveland Browns are all over DeAndre Hopkins right 846 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: now to pair them back up with Deshaun Watson. So 847 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes. But when Jonathan Gannon said 848 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: in his last meeting with the media they had yet 849 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: to talk to d hop I think they need to 850 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: cite his future first and where he fits second. And 851 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: then complicating all of this, Kyle is you don't know 852 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: about the status of Kyler Murray. Yeah, he's been in 853 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: the facility rehabbing, but when is he coming back? Is 854 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: at the start of the season, mid season, later in 855 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: the season. How do you construct a roster and try 856 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 1: to build towards this season or is it future seasons? Yeah, 857 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: I think you always prepare for the worst. I mean, look, 858 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: from all indications, Kyler's here all the time working on 859 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 1: his rehab. He's been diligent, so you know, you can 860 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: hope that he'll be back early in the season, the 861 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: start of the season, but hopes a real bad strategy. 862 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: So you know that's another area that needs to be addressed. 863 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: Who's going to be under center for our first game? 864 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: And you know there's a lot of unanswered questions. But 865 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: you know that's the exciting thing about NFL offseasons. You 866 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: start to put some of the pieces on the puzzle 867 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,360 Speaker 1: and start to get an idea of what your team's 868 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: gonna look like. For all the latest coming out of 869 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: Indianapolis and the scouting combine, Gotasy Cardinals dot Com special 870 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 1: thanks behind the scenes are executive producer Jim I'm a hundred, 871 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: technical director, Condy Fincher for Kyle Bannibosch, Paul Calbcon Craig 872 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 1: Riel Loup. We'll talk to you in one week's time. 873 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:21,280 Speaker 1: You're on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. You've been listening 874 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: to The Cardinals Red Sea Report fifteen ten five Fuckdown, 875 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 1: Zack Hurtz, Buda Baker with the sack strip the ball, 876 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 1: Mary's gonna score, touchdown, Oh Baby. 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