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Speaker 1: On September sixth, nineteen eighty five, elkins biological father.

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Speaker 2: Elkin, who was pretending to be Peggy's brother but is

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Speaker 2: really her son.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, elkins biological father Elkin Simpson Senior, was killed in

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Speaker 1: a plane crash. At the time of his death, Elkin

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Speaker 1: Simpson Senior was in the process of divorcing Elkins's mother, Peggy,

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Speaker 1: but a final divorce decree had not yet been entered. Accordingly,

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Speaker 1: Peggy filed the wrongful death suit against the airline company

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Speaker 1: as a surviving spouse, from which at least two hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars was set aside for elkins benefit. Apparently, the

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Speaker 1: last of the settlement funds, approximately fifty thousand dollars, was

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Speaker 1: used by Peggy in around two thousand and five as

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Speaker 1: a down payment for a condominium she purchased in Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jonathan Walton and this is a bonus episode of

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Speaker 2: Queen of the Cohn The Athlete Whisperer, Episode eight. It's

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Speaker 2: a Very Crazy Family where my buddy Evan Goldstein and

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Speaker 2: I review a bunch of insane lawsuits and appeals filed

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Speaker 2: by Peggy and her son Elkin for various scammy reasons. Whoo,

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Speaker 2: this is like a novel here, so I'll tell you

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Speaker 2: that the cliffs notes Peggy's first husband died in a

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: But when he died in that plane crash, they were

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Speaker 2: separated for five years, but they were not officially divorced

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Speaker 2: on paper. They were just separated. But she had remarried

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Speaker 2: someone else while she was on paper married to this

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Speaker 2: guy who died in the plane crash. So five years

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Speaker 2: after they separate, the guy dies in a plane crash,

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Speaker 2: which is Elkin's biological father, the one who died in

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Speaker 2: the plane crash. Peggy, seizing that she's still married to

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Speaker 2: him on paper, tries to get the rights to the

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Speaker 2: settlement that the airline made in the lawsuit that was

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Speaker 2: filed for wrongful death in the amount of two hundred

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Speaker 2: dollars for herself. So in nineteen eighty five, Peggy is

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Speaker 2: newly married to doctor Forrest King and living in a

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Speaker 2: she plans to scam the airline and her previous husband's

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Speaker 2: Carey is actually a witness to this fraud in progress.

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Speaker 4: I remember Peggy said she was married to doctor King,

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Speaker 4: but she had to annul the marriage so that she

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Speaker 4: could get the benefits from Elkin's father. And it didn't

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Speaker 4: make sense to me, but that's what I was told initially.

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Speaker 4: But she was about to come into a large sum

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Speaker 2: She files a lawsuit trying to take possession of that

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Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars settlement.

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Speaker 1: Simpson versus King, Supreme Court of Georgia decided September eleventh,

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine. Appelly missus Forest King. That's Peggy was

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Speaker 1: named administratis. It sounds like a dominatrix, sounds sexual.

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Speaker 2: It's just a female administrator. This is a court in Georgia.

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Speaker 1: A Pelly, missus Forest King was named administratis of decedent

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Speaker 1: Elkin Stanley Simpson's estate.

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Speaker 2: Decedent is a term that's generally used in law governing

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Speaker 1: An application challenging the appelles appointment filed by the appellent

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Speaker 1: Monica Simpson was denied by the probate court.

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Speaker 2: So Monica was the woman Elkin Senor was gonna marry.

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Speaker 2: Monica was the woman Elkin's dad, Elkin. It gets confusing

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Speaker 2: because they're both named Elkin. He was going to marry her.

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Speaker 2: He'd been separated from Peggy for five years. They weren't

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Speaker 2: legally divorced on paper, but they were divorced for all

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Speaker 2: so obviously whatever. So Monica is the woman who fought

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Speaker 2: So she fought and the court denied her that, so

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Speaker 2: or administrator tricks under Georgia law for Elkin Senior's estate

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Speaker 2: so she could get her hands on that two hundred

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Speaker 1: The appellant appealed to the Fulton County Superior Court, where

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Speaker 1: the decendent were married in nineteen seventy.

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Speaker 2: Eight, referring to Peggy and Elkin Senior's marriage in nineteen

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Speaker 1: Birth to a child, Elkin Simpson the second. The couple

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Speaker 1: separated in August nineteen eighty, but did not obtain a divorce.

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Speaker 2: The appellant here is Monica, the woman Elkin Senior was

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Speaker 1: In the course of their cohabitation, the appellant became pregnant,

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Speaker 1: Mister Simpson instituted divorce proceedings against.

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Speaker 2: The appelle meaning Peggy, and.

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Speaker 1: On June twenty fifth, nineteen eighty five, a final alimonium

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Speaker 1: property settlement agreement was entered into by the parties. The

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Speaker 1: agreement gave mister Simpson custody of Elkin the second and

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Speaker 2: Was so in Peggy's pending divorce from Elkin Senior, she

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Speaker 2: was going to get twenty five hundred dollars and that's it.

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Speaker 2: Full custody of her son, Elkin Junior was actually awarded

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Speaker 2: to his father, Elkin Senior, and not to Peggy, which

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Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty five, Peggy married and divorced another guy

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Speaker 2: get custody of for reasons I can only imagine but

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Speaker 1: The agreement was made in order of the Court on

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Speaker 1: August twenty second, nineteen eighty five. On September sixth, nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty five, before the final divorce decree was entered, mister

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Speaker 1: Simpson died in an airplane crash in Wisconsin. The appelly

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Speaker 2: And that to me just says she's a con woman.

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Speaker 2: She separated from this guy for five years, the divorce

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Speaker 2: is almost final, she married a whole other guy, and

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Speaker 2: then she's circling back to say, oh, I should get

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Speaker 2: this is my husband. He's still my husband. Yeah, like

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Speaker 2: how low? I don't know how low? Knowing full well

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Speaker 2: she's cheating the other woman who he was with and

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Speaker 1: The Fulton County Probate Court judge appointed the appelle as

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Speaker 1: eighty five. The appellant, as next friend of the decedent's

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Speaker 2: And this is Monica. Monica had the son, Tristan, Monica's

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Speaker 1: Subsequently, the appellant claimed to be mister Simpson's common law wife.

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Speaker 1: After a hearing, the probate Court found that no common

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Speaker 1: on behalf of Tristan to petition the court for Appelli's removal.

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Speaker 1: After Tristan was born, the decedent's parents voluntarily underwent blood tests,

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Speaker 1: which showed a ninety nine point seven percent probability that

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Speaker 1: the decedent was Tristan's father exactly. The trial court did

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Speaker 1: not air in the part of its order which granted

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at common law marriage in Georgia. Ooh, Georgia

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Speaker 2: You see score one for scammer Peggy. Peggy was still

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Speaker 2: she married a whole other guy. Meanwhile, the woman he's

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Speaker 2: It really is the system fucking the victim over god.

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Speaker 1: Ah. Mister Simpson's actions indicated that he was in the

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Speaker 1: going to have a child. Everything necessary for his divorce

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Speaker 1: from his estranged wife, Missus Forest King, was complete except

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Speaker 1: for the final decree one. He planned to marry the

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Speaker 2: And this just shows you the two kinds of people

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Speaker 2: She went and married again, even though that's technically against

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Speaker 1: The money that should be going to them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so ugh.

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Speaker 1: The fact that mister Simpson listed the appellant on his

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Speaker 1: the doctrine of virtual legitimation, and the appelle has no

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Speaker 1: judgment affirmed in part and reversed in part. All the

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Speaker 2: Here's where it gets interesting. Once Elkin becomes an adult,

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Speaker 2: the con Here's where it gets interesting. While they did

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Speaker 2: wrongful death, they did ear market for Peggy's son, Elkin,

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Speaker 2: who is all so Elkin's senior son, Elkin to get

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Speaker 2: when he's eighteen years old. So they put it into

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Speaker 2: an account with doctor Forest King's name, which is Peggy's

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Speaker 2: So years go by, apparently because of this lawsuit, nobody

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Speaker 2: tells Elkin he's got two hundred thousand dollars in an

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Speaker 2: sues his stepfather, doctor Forest King, and several crazy Appeals

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Speaker 2: follow This was filed in May of twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: Is still press in the United States Court of Appeals

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Speaker 1: for the Eleventh Circuit. Elkin King versus Forrest King Junior,

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Speaker 1: Elkin King brought a diversity suit against his former stepfather,

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Speaker 1: Forrest King Junior.

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Speaker 2: All a diversity suit means is that it involves parties

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Speaker 2: in a plane crash in nineteen eighty five and his stepfather,

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Speaker 2: Peggy's third husband, is doctor Forrest King. And in November

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Speaker 1: Eighteen, Elkin King brought a diversity suit against his former stepfather,

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Speaker 1: Forrest King Junior, alleging that Forrest owed him a fiduciary

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Speaker 1: duty to disclose the existence of certain settlement funds arising

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Speaker 1: from the wrongful death of Elkin's biological father. Peggy filed

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Speaker 1: surviving spouse on behalf of herself and Elkin in nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty nine, when Elkin was approximately eleven. Peggy and the

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Speaker 1: airline company reached a settlement agreement from which at least

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Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars was set aside for elkins benefit.

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Speaker 1: Peggy's attorney suggested that the settlement fund should be placed

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Speaker 1: in an account in her then husband, Forrest's name. Peggy agreed,

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Speaker 1: and so the settlement fund's check was made out to

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Speaker 1: both Peggy and Forrest on behalf of Elkin. Forrest then

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Speaker 1: placed the settlement funds in a separate account entitled Elkin's Account,

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Speaker 1: with custodian of Forest King at Charles Schwab in Atlanta, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: The party's dispute whether Peggy was also a party to

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Speaker 1: the account. There's no evidence that a formal written trust

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Speaker 1: and Peggy divorce in approximately February nineteen ninety nine, when

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Speaker 1: Elkin was twenty years old. The party's dispute whether Forrest

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Speaker 1: turned over control of the account to Peggy following the divorce,

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Speaker 1: but it's undisputed that Forest's name was on the account

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Speaker 1: until at least the divorce. Apparently, the last of the

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Speaker 1: settlement funds, approximately fifty thousand dollars, was used by Peggy

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Speaker 1: in around two thousand and five as a down payment

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Speaker 1: for a condominium she purchased in Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that sentence is the most damning of this

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Speaker 1: Becaustically saying, my mom spent that last fifty thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: on this condo in Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: And if history is any indicator, what does that inf

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Speaker 2: for about the rest of the money. She probably spent

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Speaker 2: the rest of the money too, Yes, she spent the

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Speaker 2: last of it. So can you figure out why the

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Speaker 2: hell Elkin is suing doctor Forst King for this, not

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Speaker 2: his mother. Why are you assuing Doctor Forrest King? When

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Speaker 2: Peggy went out of her way to try to get

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Speaker 2: that money for herself, could not get that money for herself.

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Speaker 2: Instead got the money deposited into account that her and

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Speaker 2: doctor Force King held in trust for Elkin when he

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Speaker 2: turned eighteen. Nobody told Elkin about the account. I suspect

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Speaker 2: because by the time Elkin turned of age, there was

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Speaker 2: no money left.

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Speaker 1: Elkin testified in a deposition that he first learned about

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Speaker 1: the settlement funds in twenty seventeen from his maternal grandfather.

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Speaker 1: Elkin also testified that he would have taken control of

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Speaker 2: That's a gaping chasm of a whole in Elkin's story

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Speaker 2: and in Peggy's story. So Peggy didn't even tell him

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Speaker 2: about the account. She's his mother.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would, I would have taken I would have

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Speaker 1: I known about it, although my mother spent the last

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Speaker 2: Of it, and I think she's either in prison or

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Speaker 2: about to go to prison at this point, so maybe

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Speaker 2: he didn't want to bother her with this. Mom. I

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Speaker 2: know you're going to prison, but why didn't you tell

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Speaker 2: me about the two hundred grand I should have got

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Speaker 2: when I was eighteen? And keep in mind that account

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Speaker 2: had both Peggy's name and the name of Peggy's third husband,

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Speaker 2: doctor Forst King, who was Elkin's stepfather.

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Speaker 1: It does seem like a money grab here. Ah Forrest meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: existence of the settlement funds when Elkin was around seventeen

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Speaker 1: or eighteen years old. So it's like he said, she.

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Speaker 2: Said, kind of thing he said he said, and I

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Speaker 2: believe he said. Yeah. Well, because we have a well

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Speaker 2: documented history of Elkin lying to Dennis Rodman pretending to

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Speaker 2: be Peggy's brother for literally years. Yeah, I don't believe anything,

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Speaker 2: Elkin says. I believe doctor Forest King, who was a

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Speaker 2: doctor who has never been accused of any fraud or

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Speaker 2: took over. I believe doctor Forest King. Here.

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Speaker 1: On November thirty, twenty eighteen, Elkin sued Forest in the

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Speaker 1: Middle District of Florida. In his amended complaint, Elkin alleged

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Speaker 1: that Forrest converted Elkin's settlement funds, and that Forrest breached

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Speaker 1: fiduciary duties to Elkin under Georgia law because he won,

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Speaker 1: failed to disclose and concealed the fact of the settlement,

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Speaker 1: and two failed and refused to account for the settlement

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Speaker 2: Elkin is accusing Forest of stealing the money when he

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Speaker 2: says converted. In Georgia law, when you lawfully obtain another

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Speaker 2: theft by conversion is applicable. So when he said he

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Speaker 2: converted it, he's accusing doctor Forest King of stealing the money.

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Speaker 2: Which keep in mind here, doctor Forest King is a

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Speaker 2: rich man. He lives in a baller mansion in the

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Speaker 2: of Atlanta. And he's a doctor. He started his medical

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Speaker 2: management company, he started a sports management company that eventually

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Speaker 2: get to Peggy. He really did make a lot of

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Speaker 2: be a lawyer. He was a successful, good man. He's

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Speaker 2: got a lot of money. He doesn't need to be

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Speaker 2: stealing or swindling Outkin out of anything, nor do I

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Speaker 2: think he would. But this lawsuit's claiming he stole that money,

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Speaker 2: which I don't believe he did.

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Speaker 1: And like, let's say, in a world where you're wrong, right,

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Speaker 1: like he did, but so did his mother, So like that,

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Speaker 2: I agree if you want to give the benefit of

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Speaker 2: what's more likely it's a convicted con woman sitting in

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Speaker 2: prison stole the many yes, or this doctor who's never

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Speaker 2: done a bad thing in his.

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Speaker 1: Life, and the fact that he's not mentioning her.

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Speaker 2: We need a judge dread type society where people aren't

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Speaker 2: allowed to pursue this bullshit judge, jury and executioners. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you have three intelligent people saying, you know what, Elkin,

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Speaker 2: this doesn't make any fucking sense. Your mom's a convicted conwoman.

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Speaker 2: You're saying she spent some of the money, and now

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Speaker 2: you want to hold doctor Forrest King responsible. No, no, no, dismissed. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we need a judge dread society because these frivolous lawsuits

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Speaker 2: are clogging up the system and harming innocent people like

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Speaker 2: doctor Forest King. Another thing I want to point out

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Speaker 2: here is that doctor Force King was actually a loving

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Speaker 3: Doctor King was extremely nice and very kind.

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Speaker 2: Showrunner Andrina Hale again, who got to know doctor Forest

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Speaker 2: King and Elkin very well while producing American Gangster Trap

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Speaker 2: Queens That be Et documentary about Peggy.

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Speaker 3: Doctor King would not steal money from Elkin.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what happened to the money, but well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you had to guess what happened to.

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Speaker 3: The money, this is true, but to blame it on

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Speaker 3: doctor King, it's just like, yeah, I can't believe it.

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Speaker 3: And he's like, I feel like, you know, he suffered

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Speaker 3: that relationship with doctor King because you know, doctor Forest

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Speaker 3: when Alcoln was playing like bough like football in college,

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Speaker 3: watch him play, like he'd be there for his games.

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Speaker 3: So you're going to sue him.

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Speaker 2: The official phrasing is breach of fiduciary relationship. He's accusing

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Speaker 2: that's not true. I did tell him when he was seventeen,

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Speaker 2: and of course he did tell him. Doctor King's not

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Speaker 2: a scammer. No, you start a hard working doctor who

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Speaker 2: can make tons of money doing anything exactly. So, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's unfortunate.

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Speaker 3: It's a very crazy family.

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Speaker 2: Back to my conversation with Evan following discovery, reading from

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Speaker 2: one of the many legal filings chronicling Elkin's quest to

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Speaker 2: sue his stepfather, doctor Forest King.

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Speaker 1: Forrest moved for summary judgment on October fourteen, twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: on both his statute of limitations to and on the merits.

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Speaker 1: In turn, Elkin moved for partial summary judgment on his

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Speaker 2: And what happens next in this crazy court case I

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Speaker 2: could have never predicted After the break, Welcome back to

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Speaker 2: Queen of the con My buddy Evan is reading from

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Speaker 2: the latest round of court filings in Elkins's attempts to

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Speaker 1: On August twenty four, twenty twenty, the District Court granted

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Speaker 1: summary judgment for Forrest with respect to Elkins's failure to

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Speaker 1: disclosed claim. We certified the following three questions to the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court of Georgia.

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Speaker 2: It baffles me how Peggy doesn't come up in any

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Speaker 2: of these questions. No, because she's the mother. Her name's

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Speaker 2: on the account. He almos on the track.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going pretty hard after this guy. He's just

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Speaker 1: like you know now on an appeal. This is twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, Like he wants he wants this to happen.

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Speaker 1: He wants money from Forest King, Forest King, you know,

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Speaker 1: sounds like he's got a lot of money. If the

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Speaker 1: is just enthralling sentence structure.

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Speaker 2: It is. But earlier it was admitted that doctor Forrest

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Speaker 2: King told Elkin about it when he was seventeen or so,

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Speaker 2: So that's disclosing. What else you remember when you were

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Speaker 2: seventeen if someone told you, hey, there's an account with

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Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars for you, Are you gonna forget that?

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Speaker 2: No way, I will definitely take it exactly. So someone's lying,

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Speaker 2: and I think it could be. And then if he

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Speaker 1: He only found out, like what recently that his mom

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Speaker 1: spent the last fifty thousand in that account, Like we're like.

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Speaker 2: Like, when was that?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: The only claim left for us to resolve is whether

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Speaker 1: the district court aired when it granted force rejudgment on

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Speaker 1: Elkin's breach of duty for failure to disclose claim.

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Speaker 2: I'm not surprised they're ruled in favor of doctor Force King.

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Speaker 2: I am not surprised that Elkin tried and tried and

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Speaker 1: Well it sounds like he's he's appealing it, and you know,

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Speaker 1: he's trying to hit it from different angles. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, that didn't work. Let's just keep throwing

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Speaker 2: Exactly. But it's puzzling why he would include in this

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Speaker 2: lawsuit that, oh, by the way, my mom spent the

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Speaker 2: last fifty thousand in the account, but I'm holding doctor

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Speaker 2: Force King responsible.

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Speaker 1: That's the giant mystery of this whole thing, this whole lawsuit.

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Speaker 1: It's just there's a just basic discrepancy there. It's like

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Speaker 1: you hold this guy accountable, but not your mom. Where

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Speaker 1: you're saying, oh, she spent like a considerable amount of

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Speaker 1: the two hundred thousand dollars, what a quarter of it?

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Speaker 2: You know. In the end, after the courts first ruled

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Speaker 2: in part and ruled in favor of Elkin. Then suddenly,

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Speaker 2: one month later, in June of twenty twenty three, Elkin's

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Speaker 2: attorney files emotion to withdraw from being Elkin's attorney. Then,

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Speaker 2: in August of twenty twenty three, doctor force King and

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Speaker 2: Elkin file emotion to dismiss the case entirely, which a

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Speaker 2: judge granted. So it's over now. Maybe doctor force King

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Speaker 2: paid Elkin off, or maybe Elkin came to his senses

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Speaker 2: and changed his mind about suing his stepfather. Or maybe Peggy,

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Speaker 2: who was released from prison a few months before this

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Speaker 2: case was dismissed, had something to do with it too.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to believe, but you can't say

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Speaker 1: with certainty, but it's definitely an interesting theory that would

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Speaker 1: add a lot more kind of another layer of the

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Speaker 1: onion on that whole scenario for sure.

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