Speaker 1: You're listening to jojos One Now with me, Jojo Ciua
Speaker 1: and iHeartRadio podcast. Welcome back to Jojo Cewan. Now, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, this this is going to be my favorite
Speaker 1: podcast ever because I got to talk about my favorite
Speaker 1: thing for the next however long I want, and and
Speaker 1: it's your choice how long you listen for. But today
Speaker 1: I am going to be talking all about the visual
Speaker 1: behind my first song, Karma. Now I say first song.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's not my first song. I've had a
Speaker 1: billion songs since I released Boomerang back in the day.
Speaker 1: But it is my first song. It's my first record,
Speaker 1: it's my first it's my first adult world serious not
Speaker 1: kids made. It is my first song, and I am
Speaker 1: so proud of it. I'm so excited about it. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited for it to be in the world's hands
Speaker 1: after two years. If you if you didn't listen to
Speaker 1: last week's podcast, go take a listen. I deep dive
Speaker 1: into the making of a song and all of that.
Speaker 1: But today I'm going to be deep diving into the
Speaker 1: music video. So let's freaking do it. Buckle up, put
Speaker 1: your seatbelt song, because we are going into Carmel world
Speaker 1: right now. And you definitely want a seatbelt for this one. Anyways,
Speaker 1: So let's start at the very end of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: I talked about this a bit in my last podcast,
Speaker 1: but I made this document that had a pitch for
Speaker 1: my label. One hundred and sixty page document every song
Speaker 1: date I wanted to come out, music video concept, what
Speaker 1: comes after it, the merch designs for it, the wardrobe
Speaker 1: for it. Like everything, right, everything from that doc has
Speaker 1: stuck to the plan, except for the dates. I mean,
Speaker 1: I originally had a schedule to come out March twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, and it's now March twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 1: it's all starting to come out. We're April twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: We get the DA a year later. I was just
Speaker 1: a year early. I was a year excited anyways. But
Speaker 1: I in that doc, the very first video that I
Speaker 1: came up with, very first song that I wanted to
Speaker 1: come out was Karma. I knew I wanted that to
Speaker 1: be first. I knew the power that that song has
Speaker 1: to come out first, to come out out of the
Speaker 1: gate it is. It's a head turner. Is it our
Speaker 1: best song musically? No? Is it the biggest head turner? Absolutely.
Speaker 1: And for me, I'm all about playing my card smart
Speaker 1: and being very calculated and being very what what do
Speaker 1: I want to get across? And for me, with Karma,
Speaker 1: it was about making a point. It wasn't about being
Speaker 1: Selein Down. I know I'm never ever going to be
Speaker 1: Selin Down. I don't I don't have the voice, you know,
Speaker 1: and I but I do have something that is a gift,
Speaker 1: that is being able to create visuals. And for me,
Speaker 1: I knew that with Karma as a song, I could
Speaker 1: create a strong visual and so honestly, I closed my eyes,
Speaker 1: played the song and I thought to myself, what can
Speaker 1: I do to this? And I knew I wanted some
Speaker 1: sort of contradicting element. I wanted either fire and water
Speaker 1: or I wanted dark and light. I wanted something that
Speaker 1: was contradicting, and initially it was fire and water, and
Speaker 1: up until the day of the video Shoe, it was
Speaker 1: still fire and water. The day of the video Shoe
Speaker 1: on set, I literally came up to the director and
Speaker 1: I was like, Hey, so, I don't think we need
Speaker 1: the fire anymore and he was like, we're literally filming
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, but no fire, It's not
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be too much, and he was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I mean it's your's your thing, so yep, I'm on it. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I'll get into that though. So originally my concept started
Speaker 1: as you know, I wanted to be on a yacht.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be at a party. We didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: know if it was gonna be a yacht yet, so
Speaker 1: I said I wanted to be at a party. I
Speaker 1: wanted to be with my girl. And then I saw
Speaker 1: my girl cheating on me, and I got really angry,
Speaker 1: and so I started to to you know, develop these
Speaker 1: fire powers, right, and I set the boat to fire.
Speaker 1: We do this cool dance and then I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: I messed up. It's not that serious, it's not that
Speaker 1: dramatic like everyone. I'm just gonna go. So then that's
Speaker 1: when I jumped off the boat. And then I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: I messed up again. I got to get out of
Speaker 1: this water. And then I like, I come out of
Speaker 1: the water and then I'm on this beast island situation,
Speaker 1: and then it's like shit, I messed up again. So
Speaker 1: then I just set the island of fire and it's
Speaker 1: like my Carra followed me and I just set the
Speaker 1: island fire. And originally it ended with me on the
Speaker 1: island on fire, and that was that was it. It
Speaker 1: was like boat firepowers, set the boat to fire, jump off.
Speaker 1: Then it was like island firepowers, set the island fire,
Speaker 1: and then I'm stuck there because you can only escape
Speaker 1: your karma so much. Essentially, So that was the original
Speaker 1: music video idea. And then I got to let that
Speaker 1: idea marinate for a very very long time. So all
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three, I actually had to not listen
Speaker 1: to any of my new music because any time I
Speaker 1: listened to it, I get too excited. I get ready
Speaker 1: to fill a video and to do a performance and
Speaker 1: to sing and to dance. I get I get so
Speaker 1: excited and so pumped up. But then I when I
Speaker 1: realized it wasn't gonna come out in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I have to slow down. I
Speaker 1: can't listen to this. I can't get excited. I can't
Speaker 1: I can't be stoked just yet. But then I got
Speaker 1: the official word that Karma was greenlit by my label
Speaker 1: to come out first and to do the music video
Speaker 1: and to make it massive and to go for it.
Speaker 1: And I said, Okay, here we go. So then I
Speaker 1: had a call with a director who's great, who I've
Speaker 1: worked with before, and it just it wasn't It wasn't
Speaker 1: necessarily the right vibe. She wasn't necessarily finding exactly the
Speaker 1: vision that I had in my head. It wasn't the
Speaker 1: level that I wanted to do. And then I finally
Speaker 1: asked her as a friend on like a sidebar. I
Speaker 1: was like, what's what's going on? I was like why
Speaker 1: because normally normally she does things massive And I was like,
Speaker 1: what's what's going on on? What's happening? Why? Why are
Speaker 1: you holding back on me with this? Like I'm finally excited?
Speaker 1: And she revealed me. She said, because there's not really
Speaker 1: a budget. And I was like, well, what do you
Speaker 1: mean there's not really a budget because at this point
Speaker 1: I was out of the budget conversation. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: And she said, there's not really a budget to make
Speaker 1: this vision that you have come to life. She's like,
Speaker 1: everyone loves this vision, but it's just not possible within
Speaker 1: the budget that we were given from label. And I said, oh,
Speaker 1: I said, don't's threat about that. I was like, I've
Speaker 1: been waiting for this one I was like, I will
Speaker 1: cover this video whatever it is, like, don't like make
Speaker 1: it like let's let's let's go. Like the best thing
Speaker 1: you can do is invest in yourself. And I've been
Speaker 1: waiting years to have this moment like I I will
Speaker 1: handle whatever we need to handle. And then it's still
Speaker 1: just still wasn't clicking. And so that's when I made
Speaker 1: a phone call to my other director friend. His name
Speaker 1: is Mark Klass, and Mark and I have done so
Speaker 1: many videos together. He is the director behind Dearie Am,
Speaker 1: Number One, You Bop Time to Celebrate World Party he did.
Speaker 1: I wanted him to do the J Team, but Nickelodeon
Speaker 1: did wouldn't let him do the J Team because he
Speaker 1: hadn't done a movie yet and they didn't want it
Speaker 1: to be his first. And I was like why, like
Speaker 1: he's freaking perfect for it, come on, and they just
Speaker 1: they were a little hesitant. I was like, all right, fine.
Speaker 1: But then then once I literally woke up and I
Speaker 1: was like what about Mark? I was like why didn't
Speaker 1: I realize that right away? And so called Mark and
Speaker 1: I was like, look, I don't know if you're interested,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're available, and he was like look,
Speaker 1: I'm so busy right now, but I will make it happen.
Speaker 1: And I was like, let freaking go. So that I
Speaker 1: called him, gave him my idea and I told him.
Speaker 1: I was like, look, I was like, no matter what
Speaker 1: anyone tells you, I was like, I'm I am going
Speaker 1: to fund this. I was like, I am going to
Speaker 1: make it work. Go make your budget, whatever, whatever the
Speaker 1: team can contribute, that is a phenomenal. I will handle
Speaker 1: it other than that, you know. And so he went.
Speaker 1: He made my vision come to life, and he gave
Speaker 1: us a treatment, and he gave us a budget breakdown,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be fine. We're gonna be great. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be worth it. And he made this treatment based off
Speaker 1: of that video idea, and uh it was. It was
Speaker 1: essentially perfect. Now I want to cut to you so
Speaker 1: we know we know this video is happening. We have
Speaker 1: our idea, the label approves it. I approve it, like
Speaker 1: we are all so stoked, all so happy. Then it
Speaker 1: comes time to audition dancers, and we auditioned dancers and
Speaker 1: we have great boys to be in the thing. And
Speaker 1: then we have great girls to be in the thing.
Speaker 1: Great girls come to the audition. I knew that Malia,
Speaker 1: who ends up being my girlfriend in the in the
Speaker 1: music video, I knew she was gonna be in it
Speaker 1: as the girlfriend. I was ready for that. I was
Speaker 1: comfortable with that. But then the other girl, the one
Speaker 1: in the red I we had the audition and no
Speaker 1: one else felt right at all. And so then we
Speaker 1: were having a meeting. We were having a meeting with
Speaker 1: the war team, the hair makeup team, my mom, the director,
Speaker 1: the choreographer, Richie, we were all having a meeting together
Speaker 1: and I was like, none of those girls felt right.
Speaker 1: I was like, I just don't know, Like, let me
Speaker 1: sleep on it. My mom actually said, what about Alexis.
Speaker 1: You always said you wanted her in a music video,
Speaker 1: and I had met Alexis, she was the Season seventeen
Speaker 1: winner of So You Think You Can Dance? And literally
Speaker 1: I told her, I said, I have songs coming out.
Speaker 1: I know I want you to be in the music video.
Speaker 1: Like I have this vision for a song that we
Speaker 1: had done and I was like, I have a vision
Speaker 1: for a video and it wasn't Karma, it was a
Speaker 1: different one. And I was like, but I want you
Speaker 1: to be in it, like I see it, I can
Speaker 1: picture it, I'm ready for it. And she said, okay,
Speaker 1: I would love that. And so then I, uh, when
Speaker 1: this that night happened and she didn't come to the audition,
Speaker 1: and so I thought, you know, maybe she maybe she
Speaker 1: changed her mind. Maybe she's not it's just not available,
Speaker 1: like maybe it just didn't know we had that meeting.
Speaker 1: And then I got in my car and I had
Speaker 1: a text from Alexis and she was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I had no idea that you had an audition, Like
Speaker 1: I didn't get it because of the height requirement. We
Speaker 1: put girls five six and taller because I'm five seven,
Speaker 1: five eight, five nine, I don't really know, and so
Speaker 1: we put five six and taller so that way that
Speaker 1: wasn't a massive heighth difference. And Alexis is like a
Speaker 1: really cute five two. I think she's really little, itty
Speaker 1: bitty baby. She in a little pollypocket and yeah, so
Speaker 1: she was like, she was like, I didn't get the
Speaker 1: audition because of the heighth requirement, Like there's ever a world
Speaker 1: like where you do like another audition, Like I would
Speaker 1: love to come, even if like it is fight, Like
Speaker 1: I still just love to be there and be in
Speaker 1: the room like please let me know. And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. We literally just had a meeting. We
Speaker 1: were talking about you, like we want you to do it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, can you come to the studio
Speaker 1: tomorrow and we can just dance. We can just kind
Speaker 1: of feel it, see if it works, if we have chemistry,
Speaker 1: because we had never danced together, but we knew each other.
Speaker 1: And she came to the studio the next day and
Speaker 1: it was just, I mean, it was magic. I just
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew that she was the right one
Speaker 1: for it. And then ended up when I was like,
Speaker 1: if you're available, you got the job, and she was like,
Speaker 1: I will be there. So then cut to music video rehearsals.
Speaker 1: We have this idea, we have this costumes. I knew
Speaker 1: that I want to be some sort of beasty sea creature,
Speaker 1: and then we have the beast cousin sea creatures coming
Speaker 1: out of the water. We're in the yacht, all of
Speaker 1: everything is still stuck to the plant. Right then we're
Speaker 1: in rehearsals, and God, I wish I could remember the
Speaker 1: exact moment that this happened. But somewhere along the line
Speaker 1: of the first day of rehearsals, I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: I'm saying I was a bad girl. I did some
Speaker 1: bad things, but I'm seeing somebody else cheat. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I am the bad guy. I have to do the
Speaker 1: bad thing. And so then it was like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: how are we gonna do this bad thing right? And
Speaker 1: then my choreographer, Richie actually came up with doing it
Speaker 1: in the choreography and kind of getting with another girl
Speaker 1: while my girl was literally in my hands, and that's
Speaker 1: when we came up with that iconic that shah Na lie,
Speaker 1: that shaw Na cheet, that dance moment. And then you know,
Speaker 1: after that is when we went into the dance of
Speaker 1: the chorus and we decided we were like, it's it's
Speaker 1: all happening too fast, like we need a moment for
Speaker 1: it to breathe and to see what happened. And so
Speaker 1: then my videographer his name is Camer and he was
Speaker 1: there and I was like, well, give me a second,
Speaker 1: I can like freeze the song and like just like
Speaker 1: chuck it together quick on my phone and then we
Speaker 1: can have the producer like redo it. So then I
Speaker 1: did that and I played it and then Cameron, who's
Speaker 1: a videographer. He was he's also an incredible music producer,
Speaker 1: and he was like, do you want me to just
Speaker 1: like chuck that together fast, but like better than your
Speaker 1: awkward freeze frame pause, And I was like, oh my god, please.
Speaker 1: I was like I want a heartbeat, I want a breath,
Speaker 1: and then I wanted to fill back into the music,
Speaker 1: and he was like, literally, give me ten minutes. I
Speaker 1: got this, and I was like okay. So Cameron took
Speaker 1: the music, he gave us that extra ten seconds and
Speaker 1: we were like, oh my god, it's perfect. So then
Speaker 1: that night the director comes into rehearsals and we were like,
Speaker 1: all right, we have a full new pitch for you.
Speaker 1: It is me. That's the bad guy. It's me doing
Speaker 1: the cheating. We're still doing the firepowers, but now it
Speaker 1: actually made more sense because it was like, I'm setting
Speaker 1: this fire because I messed up, and I kind of
Speaker 1: just want to burn the evidence. And then and it's
Speaker 1: like it kind of follows me to the island and
Speaker 1: so I want to burn the evidence again. And then
Speaker 1: we have the next day of rehearsals, all going good,
Speaker 1: all going well. I'm trying to think if there was
Speaker 1: anything like that didn't go smoothly. But honestly, everything did.
Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, I did a crash course
Speaker 1: two weeks of like making sure my my body was
Speaker 1: in check, making sure I was eating properly, making sure
Speaker 1: that I was stretching so I wasn't gonna get tight,
Speaker 1: Like I did so much pre work for this video.
Speaker 1: But everything in the week like went so smooth, It
Speaker 1: was so put together, it was so great. And then
Speaker 1: we were on set day one, day one, and so
Speaker 1: day one we shot all of the stuff on the yacht,
Speaker 1: so all of the white. And then day two, so
Speaker 1: we shot all of the beast stuff, all the black,
Speaker 1: and then we did the nude stuff, the pool stuff.
Speaker 1: We did all of that also on day one. We
Speaker 1: did it that night. So day one was like a
Speaker 1: seventeen hour day, and then day two was like a
Speaker 1: fifteen hour day. So we're on set and we're doing
Speaker 1: the first dance, and I told my director after that,
Speaker 1: that's when I had the conversation with him, like I
Speaker 1: don't think we need the fire anymore. I was like,
Speaker 1: because the dance happened, we don't need me to set
Speaker 1: this to fire. To jump off, I can just like
Speaker 1: dip out, like see everybody, and then it made sense
Speaker 1: to have my karma follow me and be with me
Speaker 1: in the pool scene, and then it made sense for
Speaker 1: her to follow me to the island. It kind of
Speaker 1: ended up being that I was the bad guy, and
Speaker 1: then the girl in Red, who is played by Alexis
Speaker 1: read she is, She is my karma, she is what's
Speaker 1: following me. She is the bad thing that I did.
Speaker 1: Then we're on set and I was like, you know
Speaker 1: what would beked up as if I at the end
Speaker 1: still made the wrong choice and I still went with
Speaker 1: the wrong girl. So then I was like, wait a second,
Speaker 1: this is all happening on set. I was like, here's
Speaker 1: the new vision. Everybody. I was like, I know, we're
Speaker 1: literally on set, but hear me and I think this
Speaker 1: is the winner. They're like what is? I was like,
Speaker 1: the whole thing becomes a flashback. The whole thing becomes
Speaker 1: a forward, and so you know, you see me with
Speaker 1: the girls, I make the wrong choice and then I'm
Speaker 1: like deuces. But then you know, after we get to
Speaker 1: the island, Red follows me, and then it's like we
Speaker 1: go back in time and then we're back on the
Speaker 1: boat and we have this moment again where We're doing
Speaker 1: that same style of dance but to a different part
Speaker 1: of music, and it's like we are back now in
Speaker 1: real time of like what choice is she gonna make?
Speaker 1: And I still make the wrong choice. That happened on
Speaker 1: set and that's where the story came together and everyone
Speaker 1: was like sold, we love it. It's psycho, but we
Speaker 1: love it. And I was like me too, I love
Speaker 1: it too. So I was like, all right, we gotta
Speaker 1: get Red in the pool with us. We got we
Speaker 1: gotta make this all happen, and we're like, okay, great,
Speaker 1: nailed it. So we had our first day on set.
Speaker 1: It was a great day, went smoothly. We went to
Speaker 1: the pool after we shout it at the director's pool.
Speaker 1: It was freezing outside and my outpha that I was
Speaker 1: wearing is basically nothing. I mean, I'm essentially nothing. It's
Speaker 1: all sheer and so it's so cold. But luckily the
Speaker 1: pool was heated to like eighty five degrees, so we
Speaker 1: were chilling in that department. And then for the pool scene,
Speaker 1: that actually took a lot of preparation. So the same
Speaker 1: way that we had rehearsals for the dance part of things,
Speaker 1: I had rehearsals by myself. For the pool part of things,
Speaker 1: I practiced how to backflop into the pool. I brought
Speaker 1: a GoPro out I filmed with a camera just at
Speaker 1: my pool figuring it out. And I really tried to
Speaker 1: figure out, like what the best way to jump backwards
Speaker 1: into the pool was. And I realized that the best
Speaker 1: way to do it and the best shot to get
Speaker 1: was just by backflopping. And I was like, Okay, here
Speaker 1: we go. We're just gonna backflop, like you'll be fine eventually,
Speaker 1: and here I am. I'm fine. Then I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: I want to get a shot where I'm singing underwater.
Speaker 1: So then I practiced singing underwater and I realized after
Speaker 1: I did it and I filmed it, and then I
Speaker 1: watched it back just at my house a couple days
Speaker 1: before the video shoot, I was like, oh, your bubbles,
Speaker 1: like you can't see anything. You can't see anything that
Speaker 1: you're singing. So then I had to figure out how
Speaker 1: to move my mouth underwater while making it look like
Speaker 1: I'm singing well not getting that like massive bubble overflow.
Speaker 1: So then what I figured is I had to empty
Speaker 1: my lungs go all the way to the bottom of
Speaker 1: the pool, sing the words come back up, and then
Speaker 1: also while doing that, also holding the beat of the song,
Speaker 1: so I would listen to the song above the pool,
Speaker 1: catch the beat, go under, sing for a bit, come
Speaker 1: back up, make sure I was still on beat. So
Speaker 1: then when we got to the set of the pool,
Speaker 1: did all that, but we could only do it in
Speaker 1: like forward increments because of the emptying my lungs getting
Speaker 1: down to the pool. By the time I was down
Speaker 1: there and they gave me the green light to start,
Speaker 1: and then I had to figure out where I was
Speaker 1: at in the song. We had to do that bit
Speaker 1: coming up and down and up and down and up
Speaker 1: and down, and it was It's not easy, but it
Speaker 1: was so worth it. And that is one of the
Speaker 1: parts of the video that everyone talks about, like the
Speaker 1: singing underwater, the singing underwater where you actually underwater, and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, we literally were underwater. Got it
Speaker 1: turned out so cool. I'm so happy with how that
Speaker 1: turned out. Then after that, we we came home, we
Speaker 1: fell asleep, and we woke up and we did it
Speaker 1: all again the next day. The next day. Day two.
Speaker 1: Day two started off awfully. I'm not gonna lie. My
Speaker 1: biggest fat peeve is hair and makeup. I hate sitting
Speaker 1: in the hair and makeup chair. Hair and makeup took
Speaker 1: five hours on day two. By hour three, I was done.
Speaker 1: I was over it. I was like, give me, like,
Speaker 1: let's go, Like I was just not having it anymore.
Speaker 1: So to be in that chair for five hours was
Speaker 1: very tortuous. And it was just like one thing after
Speaker 1: another after another, just look out to happening. And then
Speaker 1: the girl Alexis, who was red, this is kind of
Speaker 1: a fun story. She was supposed to she was supposed
Speaker 1: to leave set. She's supposed to wrap at about four o'clock.
Speaker 1: But that was so with the order of the day.
Speaker 1: Was going to be all the dancing on the sand
Speaker 1: and then all the dancing in the water and then
Speaker 1: the actual water tank of me coming out of the
Speaker 1: water and all that was good to go. But then
Speaker 1: I realized that the initial schedule didn't have us doing
Speaker 1: our red and blod b stance in the water, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, we need that, like we cannot
Speaker 1: not have that moment. And Alexis actually had a flight
Speaker 1: to catch and she was like, I planned on wrapping
Speaker 1: at four. I have a flight at eight, Like I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't stay And I was like, where do you
Speaker 1: have to be. I was like, I will get you
Speaker 1: wherever you have to be, like we must, we must
Speaker 1: have this moment of us doing this dance in the water,
Speaker 1: like we can't not have it. And she was like okay.
Speaker 1: She was like I just have to be somewhere in
Speaker 1: the morning, another state at like nine am. And I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'll get you there, Like where do
Speaker 1: I gotta get you? Like I will figure it out.
Speaker 1: And she's like Phoenix, Arizona. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe that's like a six hour car drive. I can
Speaker 1: get you there. Even if we wrapped at three in
Speaker 1: the morning, I can get you in a car and
Speaker 1: get you there. We ended up being able to wrap
Speaker 1: her at like eight o'clock, so we got her car service.
Speaker 1: They drove her through the night. It was totally fine.
Speaker 1: But she was like we really, like we can make
Speaker 1: it work. And I was like, yes, we can make
Speaker 1: it work. Like if you're fine to make it work
Speaker 1: like that, I will make it happen. I'll pay for it,
Speaker 1: like don't even sweat. She's like okay, let's freaking do it.
Speaker 1: And thank god we did because that dance in the
Speaker 1: water that few eight council was I mean, honestly, probably
Speaker 1: the most special part of the video, dancing in the
Speaker 1: water like that. It was about a three inch water pellett.
Speaker 1: I guess this is a good way to put it.
Speaker 1: A big, big square of water and we got to
Speaker 1: splash around we It was slippery, but like, you'll be fine,
Speaker 1: we'll find it. I did get scared when we Alexis
Speaker 1: and I were doing our partner work in the water,
Speaker 1: because I, of course, you know, being the partner, I
Speaker 1: didn't want to affect how she does, and I of
Speaker 1: course want to be I have to be the supporting
Speaker 1: one when we're doing all that partnering work. I'm doing
Speaker 1: all the lifting and so having her life essentially in
Speaker 1: my hands. That was a lot of pressure in the water,
Speaker 1: but so sick, so worth it. Then we we wrapped
Speaker 1: up the day. We wrapped up the day in the
Speaker 1: water tank. I got into a tank that was about
Speaker 1: three feet deep of water. It was a square, said
Speaker 1: crisscross apple sauce, And I raised myself out, lowered myself down,
Speaker 1: and raised myself out, lowered myself down. Somehow, by some miracle,
Speaker 1: my hair and makeup stage, so I guess the five
Speaker 1: hours was worth it, but ah it was. So it
Speaker 1: was the most stressful five hours literally ever, but it
Speaker 1: was worth it. And then then we called that's a rap.
Speaker 1: And what's very strange is anytime we've done a music
Speaker 1: video and we've called that's a rap, every time, I
Speaker 1: cry every single time. I'm just so happy. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be done, i don't want to lose the day.
Speaker 1: I'm so sad, like there's so many feelings going into it.
Speaker 1: But for some reason, with Karma, they called that's rap,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah it is. We freaking did it,
Speaker 1: Like I felt so accomplished. I felt so satisfied. It
Speaker 1: was so much work. It was two days of rehearsal,
Speaker 1: two days of a video shoot, and it was done.
Speaker 1: Like we did it. We got there, my vision came
Speaker 1: to life. I felt so fulfilled and so overwhelmed with
Speaker 1: excitement that a tear wasn't ever in sight, which is interesting,
Speaker 1: that's very very rare thing for me. But then I
Speaker 1: mean the editing process of we've had forty two different versions.
Speaker 1: That's dramatic. We've had like thirteen, thirteen or fourteen different
Speaker 1: versions editing it. It's kind of funny. I have all
Speaker 1: my reaction videos because I was like, when we get
Speaker 1: the one, like I wanted to, like, I want to
Speaker 1: have my reaction on camera, and so my first reaction,
Speaker 1: like initially, I mean, I'm stoked, like the video is
Speaker 1: everything I ever wanted it to be, Like it turned
Speaker 1: out so great. I'm so happy, but like, here's all
Speaker 1: the changes. But I was so happy. But then after that,
Speaker 1: I mean, for takes two through twelve, I'm just like, no,
Speaker 1: still didn't get it. Still didn't get it, Still don't
Speaker 1: get it. Then finally my last like the last time
Speaker 1: that I like, the first time that I watched the
Speaker 1: final version of the video, I was like, Okay, finally
Speaker 1: we got it. Like I wasn't stoked at all. I
Speaker 1: was so proud and so happy, but I was like, finally,
Speaker 1: it's about time. Like I I wish I had a
Speaker 1: more exciting reaction because the way that I feel when
Speaker 1: I watched the video is like that's my baby coming
Speaker 1: to life. That is everything I've ever wanted to do.
Speaker 1: That is every bit of art that I ever wanted
Speaker 1: to create. And I think one of the things I'm
Speaker 1: most proud about with karma and the visual behind it
Speaker 1: is how much I actually did for it. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm a co director on it. I produced it, I
Speaker 1: financed it. I helped with hair and makeup. I did.
Speaker 1: Alexis the Beast, I did her makeup I did. I
Speaker 1: helped Richie with the choreography. I help with the wardrobe.
Speaker 1: I help on set. I help with the light. I mean,
Speaker 1: I help with the effects. I help with all of it,
Speaker 1: even down to the thumbnail of the music video. The
Speaker 1: thumbnail I made myself on Photoshop, and I put those
Speaker 1: photos together and I cut them out. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people that could do that job. But it
Speaker 1: is something that I love doing and I pride myself
Speaker 1: in doing, and so I think that's one of the
Speaker 1: things I'm most excited about. One things that I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie I'm scared about is Okay, I guess scared
Speaker 1: is the wrong word, because I'm not scared. I'm interested
Speaker 1: in is the world's reaction. You Know, when I posted
Speaker 1: the warning, the world how to reaction. When I posted
Speaker 1: the teasers, the world how to reaction. When I posted
Speaker 1: the song, the world had to reaction. So now when
Speaker 1: I share this video, what does the world's reaction look like.
Speaker 1: And that is something that I don't know yet and
Speaker 1: I won't know until it happens. But no matter what,
Speaker 1: I'm already onto the next project, already starting the next
Speaker 1: piece of art. And I kind of say, this version
Speaker 1: of me is like a chef's course dinner. You know,
Speaker 1: you're not going to Outback or Applebee's, where you know
Speaker 1: what you get in and you know you're gonna like it.
Speaker 1: You go into a chef's table where you're going in
Speaker 1: to a Michelin Star restaurant, so you can't change anything.
Speaker 1: But like most people are into it, and if you're
Speaker 1: not into it, you still talk about it. And so
Speaker 1: that's kind of how I like to explain this new
Speaker 1: version of me, this new chapter of my life is
Speaker 1: it is unrestrained, and it is a chef's course freaking dinner.
Speaker 1: We're also just getting started. You know, my goal is
Speaker 1: to create art. I can never ever ever say that enough.
Speaker 1: I'm not not trying to create the national anthem and
Speaker 1: the song of the world. I'm trying to art, and
Speaker 1: I'm trying to create visuals that makes people's heads turn
Speaker 1: and make people go, oh shit, she did that. That
Speaker 1: is my goal with this music, with this project, and
Speaker 1: I uh, I'm very excited for it. I'm very proud
Speaker 1: of it, very ready for it. Gosh, I've been waiting
Speaker 1: waiting two legit years, but I mean I have been waiting.
Speaker 1: I have been waiting since since Miley Cyrus said this
Speaker 1: with Bangers. I mean, I remember going to the Bankers
Speaker 1: too when I was eight years old, and I remember
Speaker 1: wanting to be that, and now here I am twenty
Speaker 1: years old, which is around how old she was when
Speaker 1: she did Bangers, and people people are saying, you're trying
Speaker 1: to do Ami Cyrus. No shit, of course I am.
Speaker 1: That's everything I've always wanted to be. And yes, I
Speaker 1: will never ever be Miley Cyrus ever, but one percent
Speaker 1: I am doing like I am. I'm one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent looking at what she did and taking inspiration.
Speaker 1: I would never ever deny that because that's literally what's
Speaker 1: happening anyways. I feel like that is pretty much my
Speaker 1: karma music video Deep Dive. I mean, it was a long,
Speaker 1: long four days, but it was the best four days
Speaker 1: of my life. The project did turn out exactly how
Speaker 1: I wanted to. From my changes from twenty to twenty two,
Speaker 1: the end of the year to literally the day of
Speaker 1: the music video shoot. Every little detail kept changing, but
Speaker 1: man didn't end up exactly the way that I wanted
Speaker 1: it to. I'm so proud, I'm so ready, I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: I'm so thrilled for the world to get to see
Speaker 1: it and for the world to get to judge it. Like,
Speaker 1: be my guest, have fun with it. If it gives
Speaker 1: you a highlight of your day, let it be that.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm totally cool with that. Ah troops, I love y'all.
Speaker 1: I got lots more good podcasts coming your way. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do a couple more deep doves on Karma for
Speaker 1: this week. I am doing so many things for the
Speaker 1: release of Karma, and so I want to do a
Speaker 1: podcast where I kind of, you know, bring you in
Speaker 1: and let you know everything now kind of went on
Speaker 1: in this week and all the ins and the outs.
Speaker 1: There's a lot happening. We're just getting freaking started. And
Speaker 1: I just want to say that I appreciate you. I
Speaker 1: hope you appreciate yourself. I hope you are proud of yourself.
Speaker 1: I hope you wake up every day and are like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I am me, and that's freaking baller
Speaker 1: because it is noise. Remember, no matter what Karma say,
Speaker 1: they're really good, but Karma's a bitch either way. Though,
Speaker 1: I love you and I appreciate you do this. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for listening, everybody. Be sure to follow
Speaker 1: us on Instagram and TikTok at Jojesua Now podcast. Be
Speaker 1: sure to write us a review and maybe if you're
Speaker 1: feeling to leave us five stars, I'll see you next week.