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Speaker 1: in O R eight's a Miami hip hop pioneer put

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Speaker 1: d is new year CE. That's it's time for drink champions.

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Speaker 1: Drink up, motherfuck mother? Would it good? Be hoping swinter

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Speaker 1: stere be it's your boy in O R E. What up?

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Speaker 1: It is DJ E f N and this midle tim

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Speaker 2: When we started this show, we started it saying we

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Speaker 2: wanted to pay respect to icons, to legends, to people.

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Speaker 2: Are the man's of the people. When I tell you,

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Speaker 2: when we started this show, from the beginning, they said,

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Speaker 2: get this man. This man is like Jesus. He is

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Speaker 2: dominated the world of dance hall. Then took a hiatus

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Speaker 1: Did he come home?

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Speaker 2: He sell out Madison Square, going in towns too, every

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Speaker 2: man come to every man Bob.

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Speaker 1: They call him the world boss.

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Speaker 2: God son, and right now we are here to salute

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Speaker 2: and to pay respect.

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Speaker 1: Give him his flowers while he's here. The one the.

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Speaker 2: Only you guys will once a part of a group.

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Speaker 2: It was a group called Vib's Cartel. Correct, yes, or

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Speaker 2: three of us. But I was the best one.

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Speaker 1: To one.

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Speaker 2: Because who got you in the music? I heard it

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Speaker 2: was your uncles who got you in the music?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you still watch them, d J, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. They were like up and coming artists. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, I was the best one, so you'll never

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Speaker 1: hear of them. Oh even your uncles. Yeah, better than them.

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Speaker 1: But they inspired me, like seriously though, Like they got

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Speaker 2: We got that jay Z clip I want to I

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Speaker 1: I want to show you. I want to show you

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Speaker 1: this si f from yeah yeah yeah yeah. Just didn't

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Speaker 3: I almost had Vibes Cartel Rocket forget it in the

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Speaker 1: No, truly listening to Rtel. Of course I almost had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he tried three different uh cooks really yeah? Oh

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Speaker 3: what's song somewhere? Uh I need to forget? Yeah I

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Speaker 4: No, he was there, he came.

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Speaker 1: Vibes Cartel, Yes, I think he's talking about jay Z

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Speaker 1: talking about Movado. Nah, he said you but what which

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Do you realize how many,

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Speaker 2: Love you, like every artist that I've ever interviewed? Right,

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Speaker 1: So you got questions with you? I'm not even playing.

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Speaker 1: Do you realize how how popular you are? Yeah? Man,

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Speaker 1: of course? Right? But like I said, I put in

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Speaker 1: How was the Grammys? It's amazing. I've never been there before,

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Speaker 6: I know we talked about vibes can tell the name,

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Speaker 1: I'm still Adi is my favorite Dan Soul artists. He

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Speaker 2: Right, I got that written down there was a car

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Speaker 1: And Bojo grabbed a mic for you. Yeah, what happened there?

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Speaker 1: Nothing happened. That's Butcherbanton man. I mean, I was angry

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Speaker 1: He gave me one of the most profound how would

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Speaker 4: Bud, what don't those need you to slow it down?

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Speaker 1: I said, that makes sense, And that's when I think

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Speaker 1: I found that that balance between the art and commerce,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you. I've seen a guy

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Speaker 1: That's so let's let's let's subscribe to people. Which one

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Speaker 1: is this? Oh? This is the rampin shot. That's the

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Speaker 1: flavor one of my hit songs. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: This is my This is the Electric This is dangerous

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Speaker 2: It's like vodka you say, sixty two percent?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. It takes her off your chest. This

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Speaker 1: This is unstoppable okay, and you can't let any of

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Speaker 6: See how you just said unstoppable and unmarkable. Since when

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Speaker 1: You, always play with words, always play you know this? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? What age? Since I was

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Speaker 1: And the Garrison.

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Speaker 2: Was the summertime in the port More Yeah that song, yes.

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Speaker 1: So I grew up?

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Speaker 6: How was life and water Ford? Could you describe that

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Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up like six of us, you

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't change how I was raised because it made

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Speaker 5: Can you say your uncles were inspiring you to do

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Speaker 2: So let me just go straight up for action. Who's

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Speaker 1: Vibes Garter. Don't get it twisted because you have to

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Speaker 1: remember Bean is a legend. I mean, was king the

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. These things come and go

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Speaker 1: just like life right here now a few years from now,

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Speaker 1: we're gone. So currently speaking, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: That's set by billboard, that's set by the fans, rolling stones,

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Speaker 1: the love is there, impact is there, influences there all right,

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Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, what's more left to be said?

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Speaker 6: One game and one thing I commend you for is

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Speaker 6: you never I haven't heard you talk bad on meaniever.

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Speaker 6: You always pay me up against es Guard. You just

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Speaker 6: hit them, just hit the Grammys, and you still pay

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Speaker 1: That's my top five. I told you Bounty being in

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Speaker 1: vibes Guard. That's it. But I've read a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of the comments, and a lot of comments were

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Speaker 2: saying that that's the reason why you already king is

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Speaker 2: because of your humbleness, Like you could use the opportunity

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Speaker 2: and said something wrong or said something bad about No.

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Speaker 1: No, God is the great test Man. God is the

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Speaker 1: great old You wouldn't have been like that. No, no,

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Speaker 1: all right, but you know what I mean. You learn,

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Speaker 1: you want some feal, you want some fever. You're offering,

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Speaker 1: but I need a ice please? So is this something

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Speaker 1: white clanberry white? Right? Okay, okay, yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 2: I'm a little hated and I've never heard of white

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Speaker 2: caroen Verby?

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Speaker 1: Now is that a Jamaican drink? Or is that universe? Okay?

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Speaker 1: You're taking it? Keep keep you see where? Yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 1: make it over head, that's right. I reflect that.

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Speaker 2: So when you were locked up, what was the most

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Speaker 2: thing that you missed more? Because I was about to

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Speaker 2: say recording or performing, but you got to record in jail, boy,

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Speaker 2: did you miss performing? I didn't get to record. I

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Speaker 2: can't figure out how to record. Yeah, because I ain't

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Speaker 2: gonna lie. Whatever iPhone you got.

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Speaker 1: Fives, I'm gonna record it. It's good for recording. How

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Speaker 1: many albums do you recorded in jail? A lot? I

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Speaker 1: mean we did. We did Iking, which is now re released.

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Speaker 2: Right, So, but you don't sound like you in prison.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to like we were listening to this city today,

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Speaker 1: Few years because I started recording, like in twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: No, I had an iPad the small one, a rectangular one.

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Speaker 2: Now, when you went to when you went to trial,

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Speaker 2: A friend of mine's different. I believe you went had

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Speaker 1: They knew he was going to be guilty. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about Buster Ribs. Yes, yes, yes, that's my G. I

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Speaker 1: So we came to Jamaica. Oh so he do music first? Okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: so he came to Well, we loved Buster Ryan right

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Speaker 1: So the Fever, the fever. You don't know the song.

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Speaker 2: Fever? Okay, hell y, hell ya, salu yo. Man, let

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Speaker 2: me tell you something, world boss man, we are son.

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Speaker 1: This is fever. Let's do that looking Fever they're looking fever. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So now if I'm a tourist, I've never been to Jamaica.

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Speaker 1: For? I don't know? To be safe, it's.

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Speaker 4: Good man, you can't go anywhere.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you love Dan soul and you want

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Speaker 2: Okay, I've been to Montego Bay.

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Speaker 1: Oh you've been there? Yeah, resort part.

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Speaker 6: But I want to talk about Alliance and you and

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Speaker 6: your introduction to Bounty Killer and that that part of

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Speaker 1: Oh that was crazy, man. Like I was in pot

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Speaker 1: the ghetto, we was like, where do you know Bounty Killer? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Like how you know it? Who are you? Yeah? Exactly

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Speaker 1: So it took us months because I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: all kind of classes. Listen, I'm alive. Anyway, we went

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Speaker 1: he made me famous. Big up. Bon Tekula should do that.

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Speaker 1: Brought you to him because oh yeah, but he lives

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Speaker 2: You a little political questions not so political, but why

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Speaker 1: In America is America. If you guys need visas to

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Speaker 2: They kick me out of London. I have a visa,

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Speaker 2: they kick me out. They didn't even let me get

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Speaker 1: We need visas for some beer. They kicked me right

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Speaker 6: And what does that mean for an artist coming from

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Speaker 1: I mean it feels good, man. And I think I

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Speaker 2: Because one of the things that that was said to

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Speaker 1: No. Yeah, so it was almost like that's that's like.

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Speaker 2: Man, So he was some of the things you was

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Speaker 1: World Stars know that jail man, I had fucking porn Hub.

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Speaker 2: You walked the Red Carpet and the Grammys, and I

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Speaker 1: It was like he had to be and it can. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: whatever I mean, I wasn't. I wasn't given the worst treatment.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't singled out. You know, sometimes people have to

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Speaker 2: And you're the world on the fucking balls. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: show it's about giving people their flowers when they could

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Speaker 1: Could think them, and they drinks while they could drink them.

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Speaker 2: Yo, man, welcome home, Yo, stay home, stay on top.

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Speaker 1: Of the game. We want to give you your flowers

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Speaker 1: face to face. Yeah it's yeah. Yeah, that's a camera. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Snoop Dogg said it's better than the Grammy because it

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Speaker 1: Tell them where you're from. He's from. Yeah, all around. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you man. It means a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you got your nickname is the war Angel as well?

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, And what's the war Angel?

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Speaker 6: Was the War Angel? Yes, So I want to go

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Speaker 6: instance like that.

432
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: With one of your inspiration. It was an unfortunate incident,

433
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Funny enough, Like I said,

434
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: Ninja Man is the first artist that I really listened

435
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 1: to and was like, I want to do this. It's

436
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: my job.

437
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 4: It's going to be my job.

438
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: So I guess we were bound to meet at some time.

439
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: They say worked the idol becomes a rival's Yeah, yeah,

440
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: so it happened. Yeah, so I mean, I guess that's

441
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: what brought me and his journey right there in that

442
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 1: time and space together. But yeah, we cool. We met

443
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: after that. We were actually in prison together, like two prisons. Yeah,

444
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: so we were in Spanish down prison and we were

445
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: in Towers Street in Kingston. I left in there as

446
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, So big up Ninja Man. But yeah,

447
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: that was a crazy point in my career. You know,

448
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: I was hungry. I could tell you I was hungry man,

449
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: and I wanted it any means necessary. Yeah, well, big

450
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: of Ninja. We're good like that.

451
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 5: And what about the Times of Bounty? Who all was

452
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 5: in the Alliance?

453
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I had the lyrical field at the Alliance

454
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: as well when I left, Because you but how long

455
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: were you with them? I was with Alliance some two thousand,

456
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: about two thousand and five, two thousand and six, Yes,

457
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: funny enough. You know what started that field with me

458
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: an Alliance. When I went to Beanie Man's wedding, Oh yeah,

459
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: he was was he grow Beanie was at it at

460
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: the time because remember Bounty being in Man married at

461
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: the time, socience was high. It was loving hip hop

462
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: and Jamake exactly. Angel that's being a man's wife. I've

463
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: known her for years, so I basically went to angel wedding.

464
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: But you were supporting her, yes, right, and trust me

465
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: Man that that was great. Yes, that caused it many

466
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: But did you do you did a record as well?

467
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: What he did a record? Yeah? What she was being

468
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: birth to a life? You know what's it was a

469
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: big it was a big song. Yeah, but that's what

470
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: started and we went and that's what Bert like the

471
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: emerging and so God's a gully because then stepped up

472
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: that gully.

473
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: Is that's who you guys win against, right, Yes, yes, okay,

474
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: but we're both from Alliance.

475
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, so when you have that problem, he stepped up

476
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 5: for Alliance.

477
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: Yes, he stepped up for Alliance because I was shooting everyone.

478
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 1: He was like the young brave one that at the

479
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: time the way I do. And that's when it started.

480
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: So it's over. It's over now. Yeahahn, because matter.

481
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 5: Went down for a while.

482
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, matter of fact, his son was

483
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: in the same person I was in two yeah yeah,

484
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: so yeah, show the guard. Yeah he's in town.

485
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 6: Do you ever do you ever look back at those times?

486
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 6: And and I don't want to say regret. I never

487
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 6: regret anything, but maybe you want to do something different.

488
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 1: I know, I want to live in this universe, man,

489
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: and this universe brought me to where I am.

490
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 2: Well, right, it's a fire happening, right, and you got

491
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 2: one bottle of fever.

492
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: You could save one person, I understandle no no, I.

493
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 2: Say one person, yes, booju or bounty killing, save one

494
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: the fire moreal. I just want to let you know

495
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: he can save. He's gonna drink the fever himself.

496
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: I thought I could have sat. I saw that on

497
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 1: your program that when the person doesn't want to answer,

498
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: you drink.

499
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 7: That's I'm gonna take a drink.

500
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: It's a quick you're ready for hold on, hold on,

501
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: I want to go ahead. Hold on, my bad, you're

502
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 1: gonna you gotta step your ship up there.

503
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: That's what they make up these questions. But let's let's

504
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: talk about one of your friends.

505
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: Sean Storm that's my brother man friends. Yeah, real bro man.

506
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: Everything is great, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah.

507
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: His mom used to sell at the primary school that

508
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: I went to. He went to there to but I'm

509
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: older than him, so I was there before. So yeah,

510
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: we grew up in the same community, right, yeah, Okay,

511
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: that's my bro man. Okay, talk to him every day. Okay, yeah, yeah,

512
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: Why did you ask that though, even though it's you,

513
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just want to make sure I'm

514
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: one point.

515
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: I want to make sure I want point. I have

516
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 2: to call every Let me tell you something. Everybody wants

517
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: to be a part of this interview. Everybody man, because

518
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: you're so important to the people, you know what I mean,

519
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: and and like you know what I mean. I just

520
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: wanted to I just wanted to give your flowers, man,

521
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: because you know what I mean, Like, your story is

522
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: impeccable flowers received.

523
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 5: Right, Well, I want to ask you what influenced, if

524
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 5: any did you have a hip hop artist from over

525
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 5: here in the States.

526
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: Growing up, are used to listening to like KRS one, BDP,

527
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: Love the Browns, and I mean Slick Creck, a little

528
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: bit of Big that we loved, click crick in Jamaica.

529
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: Back in the day, we heard, yeah man the ruler,

530
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: the teacher. Yeah, come on, big up, slickman recruited big

531
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: chin and you know, back in the days, Jamaicans used

532
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: to love to wear those big, heavy gold chains, you

533
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: know what I mean them times the diamond and the

534
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: bling wasn't such a thing. But yeah, I'm on, you

535
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: call yourself the teacher too, right, Yeah? But yeah, well

536
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: I didn't call myself the teacher. The people gave me that.

537
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: People gave me World Boss. I only gave myself the

538
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: name Vibecartel and war Angel. Remember Bounty Killers, the warl Right,

539
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: so he needs the little war angels around. Yeah, yeah

540
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: did you. Yes, that's how we actually hooked up. I

541
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: met in terms of like I used to write, and

542
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: then he gave me the opportunity to do a song

543
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: with him called Galla Clad. Wait wait, you said used

544
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: to write. Yeah, I wrote like back in the day,

545
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: like the whole song. Yes, yes, yes, really, yeah that's cool. Yes,

546
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 1: that's Bounty Killer. We're gonna say that's uncool. No, No,

547
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying because had the team up right tests

548
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: around him, good writers too, Wow, you know what I mean? Yeah,

549
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: very good, right, test Man.

550
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 5: So you guys have more output. I feel like then

551
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 5: artists over here. Yeah right, you're right on every rhythm

552
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 5: that comes out, just.

553
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: Throwing it out. Did Neo ever get mad at you?

554
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: I've never met him. Your niggas match up his song? Yeah,

555
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: I know.

556
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 5: I know you're in the club thinking they're gonna hear.

557
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: You clear. That mean if I got okay.

558
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 8: Clear it right away, which we want for me to

559
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 8: not clear it, even if I was thinking about not

560
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 8: clearing it, which by the way, I was never thinking

561
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 8: about not clearing.

562
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: That's but he didn't clear it. He didn't know, That's

563
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

564
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 8: You was presented to me like this is that dude?

565
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 8: Oh and by the way, he did this with your song?

566
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 8: It was presented to me like that. So I'm like,

567
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 8: so what are we talking about right now? Of course

568
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 8: it's fine. What Why would I have a problem with this?

569
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 8: To this day, I can't, like you know, I can't

570
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 8: be over there and before misindependent without showing without giving props.

571
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: To what then he did? You know what I'm saying,

572
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: like you made Yeah? Yeah, man, Like ye say, he

573
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: broke the record back five and that's awful. The ship

574
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: that I was shrunting. I got to give you love

575
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: for that. Okay. In its defense as well, the publishing

576
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: was owned by some European guys, so they were holding

577
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: like we don't isn't isn't that so dope? The power

578
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: of the people they.

579
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: Make with the hits whatever, den't clear it or not,

580
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: that's it.

581
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: I think that's your record. Yeah, man, it's the biggest.

582
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: It's one of my biggest songs, man, trust me. It's

583
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: one of spices. Like anywhere she goes, she's like, yo,

584
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: I got the big hit with Cartel. This is my

585
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: first big song, she says that. And she's also from

586
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: Portmore by the way, Spice, we grew up together. Yeah

587
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: yeah man, so big up and the rumping shop, that's it.

588
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: That's that's the yes, yes, rough yeah, yeah yeah ump

589
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: you guys maybe we call it like a motel or

590
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: oh it's always like that, yes, yeah, sex shop, but

591
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: we said ramping shop. We rap broth. Yeah. So that's

592
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: where the concept came from, you know what I mean,

593
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: that's where we used to hang out in the name

594
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: me Popcorn family. You know, the girls used to come through. Yeah,

595
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: so that's how we gave it the name the ramping

596
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: shop and it's a real place.

597
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: I don't know I'm supposed to say it like this,

598
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 2: But and you bus popcorn right yeah?

599
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're going you said it properly saying

600
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: let's say.

601
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 9: It's just saying yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

602
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: Brought in the fame. Man. Very talented, you know what

603
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, big popcorn.

604
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 6: Did you did you think he exceeded your expectations or

605
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 6: did he meets your expect No?

606
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: He met it. And I mean he has way more

607
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: potential in him. Remember he hasn't even touched you as

608
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: soil there. Think about that. He's one of the biggest

609
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: artists out of Jamaica. Been all over the world. He

610
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: rolls with Drake. Oh, I'm seeing him in Canada. I'm

611
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: thinking that exactly. He's got that. Damn I didn't keep that. Yeah,

612
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: and he goes to you cells like gold in Uka

613
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: on a regular Yeah. Man, he's doing this thing. He's big.

614
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 2: If you if you if you get the headline Eastern

615
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 2: Parkway Parade, which you bring popcorn with you.

616
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: Unless he's walking through the border. Like I said, he.

617
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 10: Doesn't have a visa, but definitely like me, and we

618
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 10: travel all over the world.

619
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: We've been traveling. Like I said, I gave him his fame,

620
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: so of course if he gets his visa, start telling

621
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: it's on. Yeah yeah, but yeah. But now as it stands,

622
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: that's two well man ship. So why they won't give

623
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: him his visa. I never went to the embassy when

624
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: that was being you got your visa? No, because God

625
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 1: is the greatest. I told you. I've made like people

626
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: expected me to come out guns blazing, fucking up the

627
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: place literally and musically. But like I said, I'm just calm, chill,

628
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: like I feel blessed. I feel good, you know. I mean,

629
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm just showing love to everyone, whether you like me

630
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: or not. And that's where my blessing comes from. I

631
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: mean a lot of people surprised that I got the visa,

632
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. As a matter of fact,

633
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: I went to the German embassy first and got the

634
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: European one, the shn Yang. Then I went to the

635
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: US embassy got the US visa. In addition to that,

636
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: like I said, the Grammy nomination keeping Freedom Street the

637
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: biggest dance all show a blessing because we're just like yo,

638
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: God on your time right now, you know, I mean yeah.

639
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you're gonna make Freedom Street a festival.

640
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, We're for two days, every two.

641
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: Days everywhere, so we will be the next place you

642
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: want to do that.

643
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: Uh well, we wanted to do it in England, but

644
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: we got an offer already wireless festival. Yes, so being

645
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: wireless and you know that summer, so I don't want

646
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: to fuck that up. So yeah in London okay, well yeah,

647
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: Live Nation okay, yeah. Yeah, so we're doing We're just

648
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: keeping it every year in Jamaica. That's that's one thing

649
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: for sure. It's going to be an annual event. All right.

650
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 2: Do you realize that you stopped you only the planes

651
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 2: traffic in Jamaica that night of the concert.

652
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was planes that was backed up, there was traffic.

653
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,439
Speaker 2: It was it was like one of the craziest nights

654
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: in Jamaica.

655
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: Do you know that? Yeah? Man, he'sn in Kingston. You

656
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: couldn't get a hotel room. All the rooms are booked,

657
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And what a lot of

658
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: the hotels did on that night. So say the room

659
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: is for like two fifty US. So for those two

660
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: nights you got to have a thought in the night. Wow,

661
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: they cut you in on that. No, the hotel that

662
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: I stay funny, you know, because actually stay at the hotel.

663
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: I've been there so long. Even my manager was like,

664
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: just by the hotel man, But they give me a

665
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: good rd. So I stayed there because my house is

666
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: in the hills, but it's too far. So if I

667
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: want to hide away from people and then I go there.

668
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: But I like to stay in New Kingston because that's

669
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: like being in Manhattan. You said, New Kingston part of

670
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 1: New Kingston banks and the hotels and the nice restaurants

671
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: and places.

672
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: You would like.

673
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, damn.

674
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 6: Let me ask a question since I were talking about

675
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 6: Freedom Street. You know, Freedom Street get reaches reaches here

676
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 6: and then you emerge out the stage and you just

677
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 6: sit there for me, yes, for maybe for one two minutes,

678
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 6: it seemed like five minutes.

679
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa, What did that feeling feel like for you?

680
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: I did it on purpose because remember I like to

681
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: prove them wrong. So if you if you want me

682
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: to jump this table, just say you can't jump. You

683
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So you to the table. So

684
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: when I was coming out the pea, usually I would

685
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: start making my signature slang from from black stage so

686
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: they'd be like yo, yo, all say you know you

687
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: know the thing? Yeahine like that would get the c

688
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: So I was like, nah, I'm coming out like Michael

689
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: Jackson style silence and let them do that. Yeah. So

690
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: I gave them like a good think about a minute. Yeah,

691
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: it seems like five.

692
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 6: Streaming on six before they canceled it.

693
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: And then I said yeah yo and Pandemonium yeah man,

694
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: and then we started It's crazy this is Mine. Yes,

695
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: I like Dreamstown. The drinks just appear out of nowise.

696
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, do you think you should have

697
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: on the Grammy? Yeah, yeah, of course why not?

698
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: It was me like you know, reading in the comments,

699
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: a lot of people agree with you. They think that

700
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: you should have won the graph of course.

701
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean that's Bob Marley. How many Grammys do you need?

702
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: Like you're the number one artists in the Jamaica verse, right,

703
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 1: number one. It's that sit some iTunes number and every

704
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: day looking at us like this literally, I mean, if

705
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: you look at this album that hardly moves some number one.

706
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: Let me, yeah, I moved a couple of times, goes

707
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: back up. Another artist, come move it, it goes back up.

708
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: That's Bob. How many Grammys you need, man, And if

709
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: you think about it, my story is an amazing story.

710
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 1: Thirteen years out of prism getting nominated for the album

711
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: that I did in prison, I mean, now getting a

712
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: us VSA walk in the red carpet, that's a real story.

713
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: And you know the Grammars is also political as well.

714
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful story. It's a success story.

715
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: And got a carpet that.

716
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: Was exactly that would have been an icing on the cake?

717
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 1: Am I bitter? No? No, that's Bob Marley and first,

718
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: and I think he was the only person who could

719
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: have beaten you know what I mean.

720
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 5: So the last time you're going to be no, exactly,

721
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 5: that's nothing.

722
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: But you asked a question like that.

723
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 2: But here's the here's the question that for me. For me,

724
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: I love this movie. But every time I ask somebody

725
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: from the island of Jamaica, they tell me they didn't

726
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 2: even see the movie.

727
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: No legend Bob Marley movie. Like ever you're talking.

728
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: I asked somebody, did you see the Bob Marley movie,

729
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: like a person from the yard. They will be like yeah,

730
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: they were like, no, I didn't see it.

731
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: I mean I've seen clippings of it though like a

732
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: lot of clips. I need to understand this cause you

733
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: playing this to me.

734
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: Why are people and I think you you you explained

735
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 2: it to me a little bit. You said, I think

736
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 2: people from Jamaica knows Bo's story so much they didn't want.

737
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,720
Speaker 1: It to be any iconic. But for for us, like if.

738
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 2: A biggie movie just come out, right, I'm from Queen's

739
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm not from Brooklyn, but I'm gonna go see a

740
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: biggie movie.

741
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: Why isn't the things he feels they need to tell

742
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 1: me where he's from.

743
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: Why don't people from the yard go watch Ball's movie?

744
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: I don't understand it. I mean it's personal, man, because

745
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, we know about we know,

746
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: we grew up hearing his life story. Even a lot

747
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: of people in Jamaica who did watch the movie, they

748
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: were like, oh, why did why didn't Cindy breakspeare? Which

749
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: is which is Julia Gonsman? Why didn't she get more

750
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: time in the film? Oh it is because Richard did

751
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: the film. So yeah, so it's that serious. Yeah yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,

752
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, there's no people have their favorites, man,

753
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: because Bobby is that big.

754
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 2: Right now, what is the difference between reggae and dance hall.

755
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, the beats, you know what

756
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Dan Saul. As a matter of fact, Dan

757
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: Saul came about on reggae beats until he found it

758
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: on nats. Some would say, with in in eighty six

759
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: we changed the beat itself. But yeah, yeah, but reggae

760
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: is more political, more social, you know what I mean,

761
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: more against the system, more rebellious. Well, Dan Saul is

762
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: just like sex, drugs, you know what I mean, like violence.

763
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 4: I mean, it's deeper than that.

764
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: That's many layers obviously, yeah, obviously, because you know what

765
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: I mean. But yeah, I think Dan Saul is Reggae's

766
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: like unruly cousin, you know, the one from the Projects. Yeah, yeah,

767
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: that's Dan Saull. Younger cousins, Yeah, the younger, very young reggae,

768
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 1: the older big brother like, yeah, he smokes pipes, yes, yes,

769
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: the younger dance That roller dance is of O G

770
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 1: now too, Yeah, of course it is. I's been around

771
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: since the seventy what's my man name?

772
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: I told you to sh the picture of and I

773
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: called him doctor.

774
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: But he's not a.

775
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: Doctor, multa multi right. I've seen to you ever you

776
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: think you ever do his show?

777
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm not afraid to do more show what

778
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: is iconic in Jamaica as well, you know, especially among

779
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: the Rastafi the reggae community.

780
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 2: So he was saying, like, how how much of reggae is.

781
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: The o G?

782
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: But I guess we kind of like like stepped on

783
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: that already, right few that Yeah, we can't know.

784
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: You can't dispel that. That's plus it's coming from it's

785
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: coming from a legend too. Yeah, but he's right, reggae

786
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: is the og man. Right. Yeah. Well, I think and

787
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: this is the topic that's been discussed, it's been going

788
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: on for years. Should Dancehall have its own category? And

789
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: I think yes, because Sean Paul is a reggae, we

790
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: need more classify him as dance yes, and he's international, right,

791
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So we have the we

792
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: have the criteria. We have big International Dance All Stars

793
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: as opposed to what Junior Gong who's reggae, as opposed

794
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: to a Bob Marley who was reggae, you know what

795
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, So I think we could have our

796
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: own catch and you Bounty Dancehall Dance Sall Butcher was

797
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: danceaull as well.

798
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 5: Liked and the artists could go back and forth.

799
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can do because I have reggae track well,

800
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's a thin line,

801
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, it's there.

802
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 6: Nonetheless, when you said was dancehall, would you ever do

803
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,479
Speaker 6: an album like a til Shallow album but on your own?

804
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: You know I mean when I say it was, maybe

805
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: that's a strong choice at first, but what I mean

806
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: he was only dance, you know what I mean?

807
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 4: And then he was like, didn't shine?

808
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: You know, you're trying to un stuffing, you know what

809
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean. So he made the transition and he was

810
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: super successful as a sold artists and super successful reggae artists.

811
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: Not many people do that, right, you know what I mean?

812
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, would you make an album like that

813
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 6: until Shallow album or I mean, I'm if I'm.

814
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: Dance so forever, man, I doubt that, but I do

815
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: reggae songs because you are not love, but I'm dance

816
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: sold forever, you know what I mean. That's not gonna change.

817
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: Do you think you do a tour with Beanie Man?

818
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: I mean, if the money is right, I'll do a

819
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: tour with anyone. You know what I mean it is.

820
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: I would not say anyone. I mean any Jamaican up.

821
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, any hip hop artists, R and B artist

822
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 1: you know, I mean saw black music, afrobeats like come

823
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: on you bus tour would be cool, that's my g Yeah.

824
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: He actually told me like, yo, we need to sing

825
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: some dates together, like let me know, I'm flying.

826
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm flying out front seat like.

827
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: Like no, I gotta watch it, na. Man h. That

828
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: was one of the guys. That's a good point you

829
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 1: made too, because when you said, now I'm gonna watch it,

830
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: you see. So you can't just be an artist. You

831
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: got to be a fan of the music. God, damn

832
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: make some noise for I like what you said. Yes,

833
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, man. I would.

834
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: I would if you and Bust the Pomps to do

835
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 2: a show together, that's God. I probably wouldn't even call

836
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: him because.

837
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: He was like, you're coming from form and I'm like, no,

838
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: I'll be roll like this on like yeah, yeah, so

839
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: the fans don't see you because this space yeah yeah. Yeah.

840
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna keep it on hunting with you. How

841
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: many babies you think you made of?

842
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: For vibes? Just your music I'm talking about.

843
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 2: I was listening to your ship and all you too,

844
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: is talking about fucking you like this, yes, sir, like

845
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 2: the that's.

846
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 8: Not for that.

847
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah man, like I said, like in Jamaica,

848
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: you have artists that do songs for the girls, and

849
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 1: then you have artists like me that go hardcore sex.

850
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: I mean I have songs for the girls. Yeah, but

851
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: a lot of my songs is like sex. You Knowabarans. Yeah,

852
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: Like I'm like Sabarans then, like he was like the

853
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: man every other song pussy pussy, But I mean artistically done,

854
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: it's not. Yeah, it's not like you're reading from a

855
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: book like it's music. So you gotta flow. It got

856
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: to sound poetic, got to be on the beach. You

857
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: got the cadence, articulation, all of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

858
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: it was.

859
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: It was funny and ship because we were all working

860
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: out to your music.

861
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: My white days, like yeah, yeah, I had my my

862
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: when I was in America back in the day, I

863
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: had security, right, you know, these giant looking guys. So

864
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: some of them were Hispanish. So the dude came to

865
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: me one day and he was like, yo, cartel man.

866
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: I figured out your song. But your songs are the

867
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 1: ones that say pussy, pussy every two lines. I'm nothing.

868
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. You

869
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: got the cold boy, yeah, man, So, like I said,

870
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 1: dancehall is like that.

871
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: It's hardcore. How many babies you think you made just

872
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 2: over your music? Like people just just people do something

873
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: the place?

874
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah? Yeah? What population nineteen twenty percent? The hell? Yeah,

875
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: it's bigger than Jamaica. When people say that, even in

876
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: the comment section, people would be like, say, I post

877
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: the old song, say ramping shop it, oh cartail, I

878
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: made my son for that song. Yeah. Literally in the

879
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: comment section, I mean Virginity. That's a big song in

880
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: Jamaica that I did as well. Ladies comment, oh I

881
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: lost my virginity to this song such and such I

882
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: got fragmented this song. So yeah, they'd be in the

883
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: comments section.

884
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 2: I can't think of that.

885
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: Experience. And that's why people call you the world boss.

886
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: In my opinion, they say that you can make you

887
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,760
Speaker 2: know love music, you can make us you know dog music,

888
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: and you can you can make cop music anything.

889
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: Then, like I said, I do a few reggae joints

890
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: and yeah, we do everything man like it's music. It's

891
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: like I say, I sing my truth and my experiences.

892
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be first hand all the time and

893
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: be a second you know. I mean, me and you

894
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: in the streets, are something happened in the community, sing

895
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: about that, but do it in a way because remember

896
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: it's universal. I mean, it's like hitting your elbow on

897
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: the wall and feeling that shock. We all go through

898
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: the same stuff. Yeah, funny, Well, so it's like once

899
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: you have been through it, chances are a few other

900
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: people I've gone through that. It's relatable. But yeah, so

901
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: that's how I attacked music from that more personal kind

902
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: of and that's why people love my songs danceau because

903
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 1: I tap into that personal part. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

904
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 6: Speaking of that, let's talk about your debut album, Up

905
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 6: to the Time album, you know Green, Do you want

906
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 6: to just drop no?

907
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: No, no, that's the way out two thousand and three.

908
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 6: I think, how do you do you remember creating that

909
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 6: album and what was going on and your mind stage?

910
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said in them times, Oh, because

911
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: when I came out back then a lot of people

912
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: didn't understand my style exactly because dan So was changing

913
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: and I was one of the kids at the time

914
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 1: that was changing the flow. So I got a lot

915
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: of pushback from the industry, from the gatekeepers. So when

916
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: that album came out, the kids just ate it up.

917
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: And that's how Vice character became like a young g

918
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: back in the day because the flow was different, you know,

919
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: because you know, in like say nineties dance, so the

920
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: typical template it would be like no no no no

921
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: no no. Vibescarter was like, can I know? And I'm

922
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: a close fitting Clarks Michos the chief like chicken pas.

923
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: They call me Valentine and summer shots. Most you know

924
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: bot't share to the hearts, fend the glass cars eighty

925
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: Dutch marks. We think them my pre when me and

926
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: passed what I tell you them me and not them

927
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: tags Barbara Blue down them color arks, who is vibes

928
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: cartel and then make it recommend this and a remarks

929
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: so I'm semi ugly like Barbara Sparks some sembody. Best

930
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: then come across illegal firearm a fiberglass so on a

931
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 1: rush me with no knife, iras dis plus me equally

932
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: a life alas you know, crazy rhyme like I opposed

933
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: to like this is early two thousand me talking. So yeah,

934
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: so that album when it came out, the kids ate

935
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: it up and I became like instantly a household named

936
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: just On for that because like I said, we grew up.

937
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: The generation before me wasn't into hip hop like that.

938
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: My generation of the nineties we grew up to like

939
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: I said, the Carris one Big is Smaller and it

940
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 1: came out Tupac.

941
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 5: Jay Z nots and the changing of the flows, changing.

942
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: Up the flow, so we kind of have had the

943
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: ear to like, oh, whoa you can say so you

944
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: can express yourself like that, you can say that, you.

945
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 5: Can jump out of the pocket, come back into the

946
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 5: part exactly.

947
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: So that's where a cartel came from, like as a

948
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: product of dance, salt and hip hop. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

949
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: that's crazy.

950
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I can see why Sife was

951
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 5: trying to compare him to Eminem, the Eminem Jamaica, and

952
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 5: that's that's all car exactly.

953
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: And that's like twenty five years ago, twenty you know

954
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: what I mean. So yeah, it's crazy. I don't like

955
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: that comparison, by the way, but.

956
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: The fact that he can do anything, you know what

957
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

958
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 6: Like we always we always said Lil Wayne, you know,

959
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 6: that's who we always is.

960
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: Fired though, like how does he is? How does he

961
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: come up with that ship? Which is what people say

962
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: to me and dance stalls when I listed the way

963
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: and I want to see him to asking that same question.

964
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: Crazy man, But yeah, who's your favorite hip hop artist

965
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: right now? Of all time? Tupac all time Tac. That's

966
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: why this is. I got this from park because back

967
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: in the day, yeah yeah, yeah, and and funny enough

968
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: why we used it to because I'm from port More,

969
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: which is not really Kingston, so we're like outsiders, especially

970
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: back then. We're like yeah, so yeah, so we had

971
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: the Gosha that's crazy.

972
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 2: What would what would Bob Catel Tupac crazy?

973
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: That would be crazy. Hold hold on, hold on, hold on,

974
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: And I got the worst.

975
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 2: Uh so that's it called volume in the world.

976
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: Cypher sounds in the building, you see funny. Yeah, I'm here, man,

977
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: You're go I'm fine, man, I'm doing drinks Champs, so

978
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: you know that though I'm telling you, it's a pleasure

979
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: to be here. Sif trust me, thank you you started it.

980
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: You ew and Rosenberg. Remember the interviews as I came out.

981
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: They did the very first one. Yeah. Yeah. So now

982
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm at Drinks Jams Live, so I'm drinking your excite

983
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: where you are question.

984
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 2: I just want you to know I'm the king of

985
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 2: the dance hall.

986
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: They come and they come see me. Yeah, yeah, that's

987
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: my friend. That's my friend. Now I was asking you

988
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: about the Brooklyn Parkway Parade.

989
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 2: Now in New York, this is like the biggest, biggest.

990
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: This is like for the for the Jamaica's is like

991
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 2: their summer jam.

992
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: Right. Is it a West Indies day in today? You know? Okay? Yeah?

993
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: By them times. Like I said, I was a young artist,

994
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: elephant man, and the guys was running the place from that.

995
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: In the dance all.

996
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: First, yeah, yeah, what do you feel about reggae?

997
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: Don? I love reggae. Don. I don't understand ship they're saying.

998
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 1: But the flow is similar to the flow is similar

999
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: to dance all and the ridding the beat is dance.

1000
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: I love it, man. I don't know problem with I love.

1001
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: Have you collaborated yet with anybody? No, not yet, not yet,

1002
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: But I love it. You know what I mean? The

1003
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: vibe energy, Yeah, it comes on in the club. I mean,

1004
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 1: we don't stop like what the folk man? Can you

1005
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: name a reggae don recon that you like? I don't know, okay,

1006
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: but I know that the Yankee doog, he was the

1007
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: original pioneer, wanted the pioneers. Okay, yeah, so we knew

1008
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: about that Yankee and as Jamaicans back in to day,

1009
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: that made us feel patriotic and all that. All these

1010
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: guys are patterning our ship. So daddy, that's that's a

1011
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: reggae name. Remember that, even Yeah, daddy, Yankee, think about

1012
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: it because Jamaicans called America African Americans. Yeah, yeah, and

1013
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: then you put the daddy on it. How did even

1014
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: be down this for three years? What is wrong with me?

1015
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: Holy ship?

1016
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 5: Oh?

1017
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: Okay, okay? How about apple Beats? I love afro beats.

1018
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: What's your favorite apple Beat record out right? Now? This?

1019
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I should sing it. She she's

1020
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: saying she wants him to make her sweat water. Oh yeah,

1021
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: that's yeah, Tyler. Yeah. And I love the girl called

1022
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: Tame Stuw. I think she won Grammys for she won

1023
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 1: the Grammys the other day. Yeah, I was there. Yeah,

1024
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: I love afro beat. I got songs with Whisked. You

1025
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: know what. I mean burn up not. I don't think

1026
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 1: I have a song with him, but he's Big two

1027
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: in Jamaica and shot from Ghana, came to Freedom Street,

1028
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,919
Speaker 1: Fun Love. Yeah man, that's my bro man. So yeah, yeah,

1029
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: because I mean it's it's it's African music, all of it,

1030
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: dance song, reggaeton. It's literally called reggae. All of that

1031
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: ship come on, jazz whatever, rock and roll is black music.

1032
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: That's Africa.

1033
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: Because we have Buju bontan on Buju. It was like

1034
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: that he don't feel like that. Sometimes reggaeton or Applebeasts

1035
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 2: give dancehall and reggae is props.

1036
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: So that's something that you don't agree with you. No,

1037
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: it's not that I don't agree, but think about it. Reggaeton,

1038
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: it's called reggaeton. The homage is easing in the name

1039
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: reggae reggae ton, you know what I mean, So that

1040
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: the homage is there, I mean, I think what and

1041
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: this goes to show the power of Jamaican music.

1042
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 5: US.

1043
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: It's a numbers game in Jamaica is small, you know

1044
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: what I mean. Nigeria has worked over two hundred million people. Yeah,

1045
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna get their own slot on MTV Africa. The continent.

1046
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: It's a frea continent, right, tell me they're gonna get

1047
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: their own area has two hundred more than two hundred million, man, Yeah,

1048
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: someone a huge over. I'm gonna go ahead and say

1049
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: it has like maybe two thirty million. So of course

1050
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: MTV is gonna recognize. All them niggas are scamming niggas.

1051
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:47,439
Speaker 1: All them niggas are Sha twenty four. I'm off like six.

1052
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: You're teaching me, man, that's trying over the teacher. Yeah,

1053
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: but seriously, it's a numbers game, so they beg so

1054
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna get the MTV Special or MTV Africa. But

1055
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: Jamaica is like two points something a minion. It's not feasible.

1056
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: But but we still influence Nigerian, right, we still influence Ghana.

1057
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: So that just goes to show the power of the

1058
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: music that comes out that that's small.

1059
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 2: Deep, No, it's very deep, because I'm gonna tell you

1060
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: right now, I've been all on hopping and every where

1061
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: I went, they was pigging me up for for my

1062
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: my dad's.

1063
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 1: Hall interview everywhere exactly.

1064
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 2: So what I'm trying to tell you is as small

1065
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 2: as Jamaica is like how you just said.

1066
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: It still runs.

1067
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, like it runs that whole thing,

1068
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: like everywhere that was that and I was just I

1069
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 2: was feeling like everywhere I was going with it and

1070
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 2: they start crushing up, you know.

1071
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 11: Yeah, no grind allergic the grind so so yeah, man,

1072
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 11: but Jamaica is very you want.

1073
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: To play quick, Thomas Laws do it. You don't have

1074
01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 2: to take shots if you don't want to.

1075
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: You can pick. You could drink, you can drink some

1076
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: egos ship Now we got fever migos.

1077
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 5: Two choices. If you pick one, nobody drinks. But if

1078
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 5: you don't want to answer, or you want to say

1079
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 5: both of the people.

1080
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: Or everyone drinks. Yeah, I know, I know, he goes man.

1081
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. Yeah again, thank you very much. A

1082
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: right you ready ready? I want this one go ahead.

1083
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 2: Because I feel like you already did this already, Bounty

1084
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: Killer Jabonta.

1085
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: Already Fever he was good. Okay, you can see your

1086
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: next one, Terry Gunzi or Grindsman, grinds man. Yeah, he

1087
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: originally did. Ben Spanani I paid homage to and used

1088
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: to hope and he's from Baltimore, where I'm from definitely

1089
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: big Up.

1090
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 2: Terry said, oh yeah, Tupac or DMX tupac rest in

1091
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: piece of both.

1092
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, Peter both.

1093
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 2: I don't want to ask this one Bob Marley or

1094
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 2: Peter tosh Oh Ship, I like this shot got to

1095
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 2: get and you got the next one? Su sayd mm hmm,

1096
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: Beanie Man or Ninja Man, Ninja Man, Goad.

1097
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: Black Ryan or popcorn mm hmm. You know, the more

1098
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: you drink this, the more you I'm ready here, let

1099
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: me do this one. Rush on or not nice? You

1100
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: you got turning into an alcoholic man. That's the fever

1101
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: I want you. I want to think you. You guys

1102
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: are right man tiny show ye Ship Yeah, jay Z

1103
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: or not jay Z? He mixed one right, No, no,

1104
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: he did that one.

1105
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 2: No he did that was popcorn was the last one

1106
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 2: he did he did that?

1107
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah yeah, Raster definitely jay Z.

1108
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,919
Speaker 6: This one is a no brainer. Teachers pet reality show,

1109
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 6: a thug life movie.

1110
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: Don't don't don't only the witness just speed reality show.

1111
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: You're talking about my doug. Last movie before I became famous,

1112
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: back in the day when everyone was broke, I did

1113
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: the worst fucking movie. Yeah, but that's crazy. Yeah, Doug Life,

1114
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: I got shot. That was in bed laughing. That was

1115
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: your acting skills. I have terrible laughting skills, bro, trust me.

1116
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: And you were paying mister Parker, right, Doug. Yeah yeah,

1117
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: Doug Life, Like I said, Yeah, I even have it

1118
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: tattooed somewhere.

1119
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 6: I talk about teachers talking about teachers, how was how

1120
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 6: was that experience teachers felt?

1121
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: Was crazy? Man? Like, I mean it was. It could

1122
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: have looking back, it could have been way better. But

1123
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: like I said, I was the first person to do it,

1124
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: so we didn't have a template. It was like the

1125
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: flavor of love basically, but yeah, we should have. Yeah,

1126
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: so I did it. Even to this day, people like,

1127
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: when are you doing it? Though? For you you just

1128
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: come out of prison. You should be doing it, not

1129
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: getting married. So yeah, people love that was a big

1130
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: back in the day, especially with the songs. Yeah goes

1131
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: hand in hand, man, I got one Kendrick Lamar or

1132
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: Drake all the way down. I see you say Drake

1133
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: before to man.

1134
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, he said, every block do you go through,

1135
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: you can hear a Drake record.

1136
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: You get me. You may not, and he's not talented,

1137
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: but you know, Drake has that commercial flavor, and he's like,

1138
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: he's like the hip hop Michael Jackson, you know what

1139
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, yeah, so yeah juicy. He did a

1140
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: lot for popcorn, and he reps the culture. He raps

1141
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: Jamaica culture to the point where people started calling him

1142
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: culture culture. But like, we don't feel that way. It's

1143
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: not Jamaica not influence as well, yeah, because Jamaicans are

1144
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:29,919
Speaker 1: all over exactly, So it is this next. I got

1145
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: this one, go ahead.

1146
01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 2: I got this because I was looking at my closet.

1147
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: For my clocks. Yeah, I couldn't find him. I got

1148
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 1: a brand new clocks.

1149
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: And then I said, I might have been going too far. Yes,

1150
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 2: but clarks or no, that's not that's not okay, my bad.

1151
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: My is wanted to shoot? How used to it? Back

1152
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: to the how do you know that? Come on? All

1153
01:05:55,200 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: the nigga says, come on, come on over here?

1154
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 6: Right about the addies though, because what inspired you to

1155
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 6: have your own shoes?

1156
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean, just like I said, I love money, but

1157
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 1: it's deeper than that. Like I said, we grew up

1158
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: on hip hop as well, and we always admired how

1159
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: these guys come from poverty just like us. Now they

1160
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: are rappers, they have their own shoes, They have their

1161
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: own you know what I mean. You were seeing that

1162
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: first in the hip hop yeah in the nineties. Yeah yeah,

1163
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: and that inspired me of course. I mean, like I said,

1164
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: my generation is the first generation to have cable TV.

1165
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: M so that influences. Yes. So when the cable came

1166
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: out in Jamaica, we were like fourteen years old, being

1167
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: the first generation to be able to watch B E

1168
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: T and yeah A J and Free Yeah yeah example.

1169
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we were in rap City City and all

1170
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 4: of that.

1171
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: You hear how loud you got one of these got

1172
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: It changed American landscape and it added to the culture

1173
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: as well, you know what I mean. So like I said, yeah,

1174
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: before us, there was just one TV station in Jamaica.

1175
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: So the Jennifer, so my older sisters, they grew up

1176
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 1: on one TV station that signed off at midnight, crazy.

1177
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 6: Right and Clarks, I know their sales had to go

1178
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 6: up after Yeah.

1179
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1180
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: One of thember Clark's were a British colony, so Clarks

1181
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: has been embedded in the culture. I just brought it

1182
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,439
Speaker 1: back exactly because like I said, when the cable TV came,

1183
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: this game or Jordan's came, Sneakers came Jersey Scane, so

1184
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: a lot of it was lost to the kids who

1185
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: came out in the in the late nineties. They came

1186
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: out we're in Jordan's and so so when I did Clarks,

1187
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: it brought back that old school style. Yeah, and that's

1188
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: why it's still so big to this day because it

1189
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: has always been in the closure, you know what I mean? Yeah, Yeah,

1190
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:10,919
Speaker 1: let's yeah, Dre scores super hype, dre scung, but soup

1191
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: hype is my regends. Dres called ma name did Kingston

1192
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:18,600
Speaker 1: story album that was crazy? M m hm, Sizzler or

1193
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: Capleton two legends? Man tell you yeah, did you drink?

1194
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm watching you because he's right, He's right, Yeah, yeah,

1195
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: bigs long a time, man, you can't talk? Those are

1196
01:08:41,360 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 1: those are giants? Yes, man? And intro music mine me,

1197
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 1: no one no is that responsibly.

1198
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 2: Let me tell you how much we can get right

1199
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 2: back to the quick time of Slim. But let me

1200
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: tell you how much your fans are your fans?

1201
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: Yes?

1202
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 2: I posted like with multiple stuff, yes, And all I

1203
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 2: did was post a little bit of this right here.

1204
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 1: What they heard that you got your visa was d

1205
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:48,919
Speaker 1: m Yeah.

1206
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 2: But before we get back to the Quirk Thomas Slim.

1207
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 2: I just want you to know. You know, I've been

1208
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: doing this for eight years, so I've been studying years

1209
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 2: nine years.

1210
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: Excuse me.

1211
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 2: I've been studying people's fan base. I study people's drinks,

1212
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 2: I study people whatever. And I tell you your fan.

1213
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: Base that's crazy crazy. Imagine beehive on weed. That's my finding,

1214
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: Marbie on fucking.

1215
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly right, Ship.

1216
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's why.

1217
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 13: Not respect like when you win episode recording that, Yeah,

1218
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,160
Speaker 13: that's crazy.

1219
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 2: And you know you know that because when I was

1220
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 2: playing that to a little Wayne, little Wayne couldn't actually understand.

1221
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,760
Speaker 2: I had like almost tell him his fan base. But

1222
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:51,839
Speaker 2: you know your fan base, you know why.

1223
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 1: They was writing you in jail and yeah, okay, that

1224
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 1: is my fan base is crazy, bro like me back then,

1225
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: that's the cart was talking. That's my fan base. They

1226
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 1: haven't evolved with me, with me, they're still dark as fun.

1227
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 1: I like it like that. You can pull a Trump

1228
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: right now.

1229
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: You can tell people you go go motherfucking the.

1230
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: Court right now and don't say that time and at Yeah,

1231
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell that drink water Ship, Can

1232
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: I get a straw? Why? Why Damien Mary Damien Marty

1233
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 1: and Stephen Marley. Damien, that's Junior Gong. He's lop Steven still,

1234
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 1: but Junia Gown like the younger kids. A lot of

1235
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: young kids in Jamaica even say Junior Gong is better

1236
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: than Bob Marley because he not only sings, he dj

1237
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: he raps, right because he grew up different, right, right,

1238
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 1: I mean you grew up in between Miami and New York.

1239
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 1: Like he's a Yeah, he's a world citizen. Mm hmm.

1240
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 1: Shava or super Cat super Man super Cat. Yeah, but

1241
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: like I said, remember, Shaba is more my like for

1242
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: the ladies, right, So super catches are real. I mean

1243
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a hybrid because coming up I was

1244
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: naturally gangster, but I do a lot of songs for

1245
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: the ladies.

1246
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 5: So and it feels like super was one of the

1247
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 5: first artists to really get into the hip hop.

1248
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. And yeah, of course because even Heavy D was

1249
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: friends Heavy Heavy and biggest first track is on that too.

1250
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, sometimes, yeah that is a legend as well. Yeah,

1251
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: that's something Ninja Man super Cats era when I was

1252
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: like twelve thirteen coming up in the eighties. Uh yeah,

1253
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:10,799
Speaker 1: Extensive Royalty or eminem which song? Which song? Because royalty

1254
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 1: is a song? Which song? White trash, white trash party,

1255
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: white chash. Yeah, this is all you from here on out, brother, yeah, White.

1256
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 1: Why do you write a long ass like that? Because

1257
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: it's can tell? Man, these individuals each other? JA right,

1258
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Get it now? I get it. It

1259
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:52,560
Speaker 1: don't make sense. I Shaana, I Shaana, but a legendary

1260
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 1: young artist. As a matter of fact, you break since

1261
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: you know I didn't break her. A producer that I

1262
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 1: recorded a song for called Loudie. You basically stole the

1263
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: song and gave it to Shenzia to sing. But this

1264
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: is when gods are fans. My fans really had a

1265
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 1: problem with Shenzia when she came out and said she

1266
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: wrote the song is if she wrote for you? No,

1267
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: as if she wrote the entire song? Okay, okay, so

1268
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 1: you wrote her verse two? No, it was my song.

1269
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: So I recorded the song for you. You give it

1270
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: to a girl. So all she did was change the verses.

1271
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: So if I say me, she said her right, yes,

1272
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: So she just changed like the pronouns okay, you know

1273
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah? And then someone someone leaked the

1274
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,639
Speaker 1: original song when when she was saying, oh, Cartail didn't

1275
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: write my part. I wrote my part and she released it.

1276
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 1: Someone's leaked the original song where I wrote everything. Yeah,

1277
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 1: that's why Gods and Sons had a problem with her initially. Well, yeah,

1278
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 1: she cool man like I've done met her in person,

1279
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 1: though you remember I was in prison them times. Yeah,

1280
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 1: I told you it's a prison membo. I didn't.

1281
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: I didn't because you recorded that feature for I recorded

1282
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 2: that song in prison.

1283
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, and Elvis, who was a producer, gave it

1284
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: to Shancia, so they left my hook and she just

1285
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: sang my verses. Right, how did that? Did you? What

1286
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: did that vexin? No? I wasn't vexed, and I wasn't happy.

1287
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: It was just like, yo, I need my money. I

1288
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 1: need Yeah, So I wasn't angry or sad. I was unpaid. Yeah,

1289
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: so that's all I needed. But yeah, big up and

1290
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: she reps anyway she goes. She shout South Cartel too.

1291
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: Yeah to be in her defense, she does. But Spice

1292
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: is the number one big up Spices, Queen of Dansad. Yes,

1293
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: she's been on the show. I need her. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1294
01:15:56,280 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: definitely reggaear dance hall dance for ever, go ahead.

1295
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 2: You should take a shot for accident. Yeah, a shot.

1296
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: We knew this dance song. Mm hmm, what this one

1297
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 2: is fire? If you don't say Trump for a Biden. No,

1298
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 2: we don't want no political ship neither.

1299
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: Exactly. Do you keep your visa? Yes, sir, the shots

1300
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: are here.

1301
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 6: Preface this by saying we have some foul friends, right, Yes,

1302
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 6: I'm the only vegan I te here.

1303
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: Right, Oh you're vegan? I tell yes. A little bit.

1304
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 1: Time to eat shrimp legend allegedly allegedly Jamaican born in Jamaica. No,

1305
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: I was born in New York. My parents from Jamaica.

1306
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:51,799
Speaker 1: Here Yankee man, here, you're a Yankee basically Yankee. Yeah, yeah,

1307
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: that's a vegan. Do you eat pussy? I'm just second man.

1308
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 7: Because because it is me, so you can't be your feet.

1309
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 1: I said, why No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, okay,

1310
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: So what happened when you was going to the head, Yeah,

1311
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: you was asking leading that up because the reason why

1312
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 1: I was give some questions. Yeah, they gave me this question, bro,

1313
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 1: that's the question. Jerk chicken, the curry chicken. What the hell?

1314
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: That's why they gave you no that's a deep question, man,

1315
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: can't be a shot? You take a shot? Yeah? Yeah,

1316
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: crazy with that. But they gave it to me though,

1317
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 1: that's the foure part. He gave it. They wanted us

1318
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,640
Speaker 1: to drink what Jamaica? And how are you going to

1319
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 1: decide between coury chicken and jerk Chicken. I can't do it, mind,

1320
01:17:58,880 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: I can't do it.

1321
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 2: Then I went to a store in Kingston and I

1322
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 2: seen the Chinese.

1323
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: Man. Ye, blood class, you will be a blood. Chinese

1324
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 1: are the toughest Jamaica.

1325
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, okay, the locks or dip set?

1326
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 1: The locks is Jada kiss right? You got to say Jada,

1327
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 1: but you I don't know Jada. I love Jada. Why

1328
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: does Jada sound like Italian fucking mafia with that voice

1329
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 1: and that cadence, which is one of the reasons why

1330
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: he is artist soul. Yeah, it's very true. With his lyrics, yes, man,

1331
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: and the sound of his voice. It's crazy man, Yeah,

1332
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:54,759
Speaker 1: rasip be sound. That's what I'm talking about.

1333
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 15: Yeah, man, you take the next one, said cares one

1334
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 15: to slick Rick. I respect that you want to take

1335
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 15: two for the culture. Ye, that's that fever, man, know

1336
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 15: that I like it to that he took one for

1337
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 15: karas one.

1338
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 1: And yeah, man, legends. I'm like, I'm not that young,

1339
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,440
Speaker 1: so you know I grew up on those guys.

1340
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 2: Now they're absolute legends, all right, Jordan or Lebron Jordan's

1341
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 2: that was easy, l A or Miami, New York.

1342
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 1: I respect, I love it.

1343
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 4: I'm America, New York, Brooklyn, flat bash.

1344
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 1: You gonna take a shot for shot. You don't have

1345
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 1: to take a shot. I'm gonna take a shot for

1346
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: your shot. Hold on, okay, okay, but that's what I

1347
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 1: got to take a shot. That's what I got a shot.

1348
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 1: That's why I got to take It's got to be

1349
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: smart over there. Yeah, y'all not smart with it. He's

1350
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: like one plus one three yes, salo, Yeah, cheers you guys.

1351
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 1: Man love New York game man. M m, you got

1352
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: the nice one. You know. The gods version of salute

1353
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 1: is actually tables. That's what we're saying. So I say tables, yeah,

1354
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: because we don't do chairs.

1355
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 2: Okay, tables, get it, chairs, tables.

1356
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 1: I like it. I didn't make that up on the spot.

1357
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 2: I'm going I'm going, like some of your previous guests.

1358
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: Analog or digital, and you're talking about the sound to

1359
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 1: say studio together exactly, that that's fintured sound. It's it's warmer.

1360
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 1: I mean, if you grew up on digital, you're not

1361
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 1: going to know the difference, right, But if you grew

1362
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: up old school, you're going to know that the analog

1363
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: has that warmer sound. So what they used to do

1364
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 1: in Jamaica when the digital sound came out, they used

1365
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 1: to still running back on the twenty four track after

1366
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 1: they mixed it, and then they mastered on the twenty.

1367
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 5: Four chick and they still press it on the plates exactly.

1368
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 1: We still do that. Ship Yeah great, Oh no, this

1369
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 1: is yours? Is the last one? Okay, that's the last one.

1370
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:30,480
Speaker 1: How many questions are though? Yeah? Is seventy one? Yeah?

1371
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: Fifty ship? Yeah, let me let me add one. Okay,

1372
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead man before they twenty two? Yeah,

1373
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 1: my pinker, it's not think it's future. Thank you for salmon. No,

1374
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 1: not Simon, that's Jamaican. It went over your head. No no, no, no,

1375
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:54,560
Speaker 1: don't worry about.

1376
01:21:54,280 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 16: Its empty noo.

1377
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's asking about one is my brother? One

1378
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: is my son? That's three shots. Give us a mad

1379
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: story though, MATSSS is crazy, man, like I raised him.

1380
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 1: So when he came up from the country, he was

1381
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: like nine ten years old. Oh wow, So we came

1382
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: to Port Moore, so coming from does imagine you're coming

1383
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 1: from fucking somewhere in the country and you end up

1384
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn in nineteen eighty fucking six, right, wow exactly.

1385
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: So he came up and now I mean he held

1386
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: his own he grew up rough just that the rest

1387
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: of us. We actually went to prison together, and he

1388
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 1: lost his mother while we were in prison. Yeah. Man,

1389
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 1: I cried man like and like I said, I cried

1390
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: twice in prison when my baby mother's mom died. And

1391
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:12,000
Speaker 1: when matchs mom died, that ship hit us like hard. Bro.

1392
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 1: Even my grandmother died when I was in prison, and

1393
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: I didn't feel it because she was an old lady,

1394
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 1: was like nineties. She had lived her life, she lived

1395
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 1: her life right right right, Yeah, But when MaTx was

1396
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 1: mom died and Charlotte's mom, that ship hurt. Yeah.

1397
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 6: The is it true that he created the laughter the Yeah.

1398
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: I just remember we're a group, you know, and he did.

1399
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 1: He invented the world boss O World Boss Yeah. So yeah,

1400
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: like I said, I raised those kids. So yeah, when

1401
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 1: he came out you know, I got in a fat

1402
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,600
Speaker 1: bends and you know what I mean, gave him an

1403
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 1: apartment because my life is dope. And I said that, right, Yeah,

1404
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what I think. Dave Chelle, Yeah, I

1405
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,519
Speaker 1: was watching it, yeah, person, yeah, and I heard Dave

1406
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,879
Speaker 1: Chapelle say it, and I'm like, oh, ship, that's that's

1407
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: that's dope. Yeah, so big up Kanye. I like Kanye too,

1408
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 1: so this is the last one. Yeah, I like Kanye.

1409
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 1: It was you and Kanye and then production wise like

1410
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 1: that would be yeah. Yeah, he's also Yeah, I saw

1411
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 1: ones play two pianos at once, like some black moz

1412
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 1: are fucking crazy, Big up, big up Kanye.

1413
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 2: And now he's back up being there, he's on some

1414
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 2: he's back to being right. You saw about the garments.

1415
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:45,799
Speaker 1: And his wife said, you look, I'm I'm joking. I'm joking.

1416
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 5: I mean I think he might even appreciate that to

1417
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 5: a degree.

1418
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if he does, I'm not joking. I'm just

1419
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: it's real. Conye is crazy, man, But I guess that's

1420
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:08,040
Speaker 1: part of being a great artist, right. Yeah, you gotta

1421
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta be fucked up. I mean, not byby

1422
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 1: all fucked up, but you weren't ready, I wasn't okay, Yeah,

1423
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: expect your right. It's crazy.

1424
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 2: The last question, last question for Quick Times Love, did

1425
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 2: we get back into the interview, Yes, sir.

1426
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:50,839
Speaker 1: Loyalty or respect? Loyalty, loyalty, loyalty. I believe in loyalty

1427
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 1: because you can respect me. But if you're loyal to me,

1428
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: I know I'm Safeernie. Respect that you're not going to

1429
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 1: cause some dude he's here Connor robb him and shoot

1430
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: him like they didn't right by day. I mean yeah,

1431
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: I don't know they they don't want us to win

1432
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 1: exactly to now. Well, Yeah, loyalty, man, Yeah, of course, loyalty.

1433
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,600
Speaker 1: I believe in that, and that's why that's why it

1434
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: was stranger And you asked me that question about Sean's storm.

1435
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: That's one of the most loyal people I've ever met.

1436
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, I mean, but Gaza is loyalty though.

1437
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 1: That's how we roll, you know what I mean. Let's

1438
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: make some noise for that, true, did you? Yeah?

1439
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 5: It reminds me of Norway saying left rack Iraq.

1440
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: First of all, in Jamaica, kid can tell you Jamaican's

1441
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 1: a lot of us, especially back in the day We're

1442
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: well read and we watch everything that's happening in the world.

1443
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 1: So you on a street corner in Jamaica can be

1444
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 1: called televisions, Mmmm, televis like Israel. Israel in Jamaica have

1445
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 1: street corners called Mexico, little New amongst yourselves, that Bush. Yeah,

1446
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 1: that's just the street corner amongst ourselves, not like the

1447
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 1: official government. So where I come from in the Waterford,

1448
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: you have Boston, you have Flatbush, you have Mexico, and

1449
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 1: then you have Gaza, you know what I mean. So

1450
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: we got the name literally from the Middle East.

1451
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 5: Is it given because of a reason?

1452
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, because of that struggle man, something that emanated something.

1453
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:33,919
Speaker 1: That's why a lot of these street corners in Jamaica

1454
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 1: have those names, nicknames, you know what I mean. So

1455
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 1: you have Red Square, that's where Sprague Benz is from.

1456
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: You know, Red Square is Russian. You got little London

1457
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 1: down there, you got Mexico, you got Vietnam. In Seaview,

1458
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 1: we're bounty killers from Seaview. Mountain View, Yeah, mountain View.

1459
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 1: That No, those are real names. But on a street

1460
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 1: corner in Seaview you would see because we graffiti the place,

1461
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 1: so you would see Vietnam. Yeah, yeah, who lives in

1462
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 1: tel Aviv. Spragar Bens No, stel Aviv is South Spargo

1463
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: Bens lives in Red Square, which which is, like I said,

1464
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 1: the unofficial name for the corner, yeah, which is a

1465
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 1: Russian Yes, Spragar Bends, you know, big big entertaining in

1466
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 1: Jamaica to see View, mountain View. I've been to see Field,

1467
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 1: that's your Bountikulus, and I've been you've been to Tiffany.

1468
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 1: I watched you saying you you went to Tiffany Gardens

1469
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: with none of us. Yeah, I saw that. I saw that.

1470
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: I watched that ship. Bro. Your podcast is beginning. Prison

1471
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 1: in the streets in Jamaica. Oh, come on, let's listen

1472
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: to what you that's a wrapper as well.

1473
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I ain't gonna lie on man nor Yes,

1474
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 2: they told me, they said, man.

1475
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 1: Because what what what? Yeah? Had to be going crazy.

1476
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 2: I didn't know, so I didn't know, like Jamaican love, I.

1477
01:28:55,760 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: Gotta be rowdy. Yes, that's it, that's what. Yeah. Yeah,

1478
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: that's why I said. When you said Miami or l A,

1479
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 1: I said New York right right, goddamn god damn yeah, yeah, yeah,

1480
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 1: but I love Miami because it has the Jamaican climate, yes,

1481
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: and the palm trees. And we're very Caribbean here. Yeah, yeah,

1482
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: it's very Caribbean. Can I say very Demian mirror?

1483
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:31,679
Speaker 17: I don't know this, so it sounds very mindful. Yeah,

1484
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:33,480
Speaker 17: moving on, Okay.

1485
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: So what is what is it?

1486
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 2: Garnesses Garness, Garness, Garners Garner, like one of the most

1487
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 2: dangerous hoods.

1488
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 1: Garrison, Garrison, garrison, you know what garrison is. That's like

1489
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:48,160
Speaker 1: a forder. It's just a real word from Roman military,

1490
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 1: from the military military. Yeah, Garth, you was locked up.

1491
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: You went to the one of the toughest garrisons though,

1492
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 1: That's what I was telling you, pick me up, That's

1493
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,920
Speaker 1: that's but but you were locked up.

1494
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 2: There and then that night when he when he came

1495
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 2: to see you bust around, shot a video there that night.

1496
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 1: This nigga buster, the man came to the fucking prison

1497
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: which is in another garrison called south Side. Okay that's

1498
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:16,759
Speaker 1: what I was trying to Yeah, okay, and he shot

1499
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,960
Speaker 1: the video outside the prison. I'm in the prison talking

1500
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,479
Speaker 1: to the g on my phone on my cell in

1501
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:25,760
Speaker 1: my cell like yeah, man, stand up there. So I

1502
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 1: gonna send two men called link her. So I'm telling him,

1503
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send two dogs to come link and make

1504
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: sure he's safe. And yeah, it was crazy man, Yo Buster,

1505
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 1: Yo Buster, that's my brother, Big Buster. He's never scared man.

1506
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: He represents for Cartel, he represents for Dan Saw. Yeah,

1507
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 1: so big up, Buster. I'm not gonna lie to you.

1508
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 2: Not only there, but I remember when you first coming out,

1509
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:58,599
Speaker 2: and I remember a Buster going on how to deceive

1510
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 2: and literally tell people vibes, cattail, this is the next

1511
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 2: man you please, you know, vibe.

1512
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 1: I remember this ship from the beginning. He believes in

1513
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 1: that man. He trust me, like not only believes in you,

1514
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 1: he like he loves you or something. Yeah. Right. Family

1515
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 1: and family yeah yeah yeah man. And we spoke about

1516
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 1: how you met, right yeah yeah yeah yeah. But once

1517
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: he came to Jamaica, we was like instant because the respect.

1518
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 1: And you remember he's he's American, so it's both his

1519
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 1: parents Jamaica. But he was born in Brooklyn, so he's

1520
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: basically you can't tell him he's basically you're born in Brooklyn, Jamaica,

1521
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: even if your parents are from sucking Dubai, Brooklyn, you Jamaican.

1522
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 1: I'm in Miami. I couldn't get a craving agg. All

1523
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 1: they had was this Brooklyn craving air sol on in

1524
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 1: every gas. This is guineas, Yeah, Guineas. That's Jamaica, like

1525
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 1: our stout dragon stuff, dragon beer. Redistricked. That's not from Irish. Yeah,

1526
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:14,880
Speaker 1: but it's well, remember Jamaica is a British colony. It's

1527
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:15,679
Speaker 1: a British colony.

1528
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 2: A cigarette spoke a cigarette, thank you, sir, the.

1529
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:30,439
Speaker 1: Shout cigarette. You you If it's not the producer, you

1530
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:37,559
Speaker 1: can't say ship which is fucked up, No, which is

1531
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 1: fucked up because it's not Jamaica. So I don't know

1532
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:44,920
Speaker 1: it's not Jamaican. No, that's what I said. If I

1533
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 1: was in Brooklyn, I could have gotten the Jamaican cigarette,

1534
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: which is the craving, A craving air. You smooth the

1535
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: craven agg. Even a comedian said that you have craving

1536
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 1: Even a comedian said it. The other day. The man

1537
01:32:56,160 --> 01:33:00,160
Speaker 1: was like, oh, they are more Jamaicans in Brooklyn than Jamaica.

1538
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 1: And he's not lying.

1539
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's a lot of white people that go

1540
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 2: to Jamaica. Right now, they're saying that they might be

1541
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 2: a Puerto Rico without Puerto Ricans in a little while

1542
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 2: for real, Yeah, Puerto Rico without Puerto Ricans. So that's

1543
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 2: because they kicking on the perto Ricans out because of.

1544
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 1: The justification justification and.

1545
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 2: Tax purposes because if you live there for yeah, so

1546
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 2: if you lived there for more than six months or

1547
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:25,640
Speaker 2: seven months.

1548
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 1: You don't have to pay no US tax. That's crazy

1549
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 1: because in Jamaica, I think they work out a deal

1550
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: with the Chinese that you don't pay taxes on your

1551
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 1: business for like five years. So say you're a Chinese guy, right,

1552
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: highly unlikely because you're a dark skick, but just say

1553
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 1: you're a Chinese guy the Chinese.

1554
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 4: Let me, why do I keep using John?

1555
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Anyway you pay, you come to Jamaica, you open

1556
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:55,720
Speaker 1: a business, Say you get five years what do you

1557
01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 1: call it? Great speriod not to pay taxes. In the

1558
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:03,719
Speaker 1: fourth year, you you send for your cousin from fucking

1559
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 1: Beijing the replacement and put him as the CEO of

1560
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 1: the company. And the company so the company is not

1561
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 1: paying tax for another five years, and they bring the

1562
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 1: next one after and then the next after, and.

1563
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 5: That's when you have the craziest Chinese Jamaica's Because.

1564
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: Exactly I'm gonna be honest with you. I see I

1565
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,839
Speaker 1: was white. You know this is just a fake bumba

1566
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 1: clad that's not how we say.

1567
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 2: That was a construction site in Jamaica and then they

1568
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 2: had nothing but Chinese workers coming out, and Jamaican guy

1569
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:34,719
Speaker 2: was like, yo, man, look they won't hire us.

1570
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 1: And so my thing is this, Okay, I have no

1571
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:46,200
Speaker 1: problem with Chinese nationalism. The problem I have is with

1572
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 1: the lack of black people's nationalism. But we're not going

1573
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 1: to go that the string champs. Yeah, we're not going

1574
01:34:55,920 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 1: back to me that. Yes, they can do better, better,

1575
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 1: they can do better. We already spoke. He's just said

1576
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 1: the government can do better. You don't want me to

1577
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:14,200
Speaker 1: go back to Jamaica government, No, but me and the

1578
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:17,600
Speaker 1: government good. They dreating good. Like like I said, I

1579
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 1: came out. I changed up my whole thing and I'm good.

1580
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 1: That's why I'm here now in Americas. The change that's man.

1581
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 2: And we know you're about to get married, but before that,

1582
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 2: let's talk about short boss. Yeah sh shot yeah two.

1583
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my baby mom. I've been to there since

1584
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:45,080
Speaker 1: before I got famous and rich. But I mean, like

1585
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 1: I said, you see, prison is dangerous because you know,

1586
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:51,639
Speaker 1: when you go to prison, ship gets weird. And I'm like,

1587
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:54,439
Speaker 1: I said, she held it for years and then she

1588
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 1: couldn't hold it anymore. You're talking about your baby mom. Yeah, obviously,

1589
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 1: well we're talking about him. She she got caught slacking then. Yeah,

1590
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 1: but I still respect her still because I understand human beings.

1591
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,719
Speaker 1: Think about human nature. Okay, think about it. Your woman

1592
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 1: is in prison, one year goes by. You know, let's

1593
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 1: not use you. You look like you what a woman?

1594
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 1: This woman is like this should look like by the house.

1595
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, but it's true.

1596
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 4: Think about it.

1597
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 1: People that love me like she I'm sure she loved

1598
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 1: me because she wrote it me. Even when she was slacking,

1599
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 1: I could still jump on my phone in prison. Surely

1600
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 1: go to the bank, shorty, make sure the lawyer gets

1601
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: that pay this bill, give this person money. And she

1602
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 1: was there right through. But come on, I mean, prison

1603
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 1: for fucking thirty years. What do you expect her to do?

1604
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 1: Like save the pussy. It's not a hedge funt, you know.

1605
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but I forgave her immediately because I understand.

1606
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 1: But I just had to move on, right, that's what

1607
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 1: That's right, that makes sense. I'm big up to them.

1608
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 1: She's actually hire. No, she's in Lauderdale because I left

1609
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 1: her in lawd of that. Okay, yeah, that's sort of

1610
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 1: mature of you too. She gave me three sons, Come on,

1611
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 1: big up shot. I love she made me cry.

1612
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 4: I was.

1613
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 1: That's crazy, man, And that's what people love about me

1614
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 1: because I just speak my truth and when I'm living

1615
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 1: music that I only live once. Man. So how you

1616
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 1: found my other baby mother? My life is crazy? Seriously,

1617
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 1: My other baby mother told me you're fucking hyping up shorty.

1618
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 1: She fucking some guy like literally, no, I didn't you know?

1619
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 1: Matter are idiots? Cloud. I'm like, you know, that's what

1620
01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Well, yeah, yeah, she gave me my sons.

1621
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 1: They do music to live the music. And the other

1622
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 1: baby mom that told me the snitch, but she gave

1623
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:38,280
Speaker 1: me a nice stot. But yeah, I mean, well, I'm

1624
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 1: just living, man, and I take the good, the bad,

1625
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 1: the ugly. Yeah. Man, it's what everybody who was on

1626
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 1: watch right, Like, you know, from the outside looking in,

1627
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:53,720
Speaker 1: it looks like you never cracked. It looked like you

1628
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: never know. While I was in prison, No, like I said,

1629
01:38:56,160 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 1: I cried twice honestly when Shorty her mom died because

1630
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 1: Shorty's short boss when her mom died, because she was

1631
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 1: at every every court, every time I was in court,

1632
01:39:07,479 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 1: she was there, even when I told her, don't come

1633
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 1: still show still there, bro Bro. I cried like a

1634
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 1: bitch man when she died. And also when Match's mom died,

1635
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:23,600
Speaker 1: because those women are like, she's in the community. You

1636
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,520
Speaker 1: know you know what I meantriarch. Yeah, yeah, the matriarchs

1637
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 1: even even daper slices mom. Jamaica runs even those days

1638
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 1: when we was not behaving ourselves and when the cops

1639
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 1: came like that was mom was naked. Like you're like,

1640
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 1: they're in a sense, fuck like leave the community. Like

1641
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 1: Jamaica is another beast man. Yeah, it's crazy. So and

1642
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 1: the women they represent for us, all right, yeah so

1643
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 1: the black women. Yeah, man is what it is. No

1644
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 1: one smokes. I've never seen someone. No, I think, well,

1645
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 1: it's a different beast man. Well he's my favorite comedian.

1646
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:08,680
Speaker 4: Yeah we were.

1647
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 1: You were in a fucking Yeah. I watched that he

1648
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 1: was star Yeah and that that's both death. Yeah, your

1649
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 1: most he's like a sizzler, a bunch of bank How

1650
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 1: he raps he's like like he's deep, very without trying,

1651
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 1: without trying, like it's very not. That was a good

1652
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 1: interview though, with with most death Dave Chappelle and Talib.

1653
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you know he didn't like Kanye was breaking

1654
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 2: about his hat.

1655
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 1: Oh Talib, Yeah yeah, he seems like he's a funked

1656
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:47,639
Speaker 1: up guy. Well this music is amazing, yeah man, yea.

1657
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 1: Even Dave said it, like this thing is fucking yeah

1658
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: about He's like Jordan. I was watching an interview with

1659
01:40:55,320 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 1: Chamellionaire the first time he met Jordan's and Jordan he

1660
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 1: was like, Jordan, can I take a picture? And Jordan's

1661
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 1: that nigga you got money or some ship? Yeah. The

1662
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: stories about Jordan's he you know the funny story about

1663
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:18,479
Speaker 1: about him. I think it was Jada Kiss was saying

1664
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:23,680
Speaker 1: he was everyone and was like, yo is this like

1665
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 1: he picked up, like is this dude with you? And

1666
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 1: Jada was like, nah, you know he has that resk Like.

1667
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:31,679
Speaker 4: Nah, I know that nigga.

1668
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:35,640
Speaker 1: He said, you went back to the I was like,

1669
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:43,600
Speaker 1: you reworking, bro. I never know.

1670
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:53,479
Speaker 18: That's crazy man, you he's an ja Yeah man, yeah, yeah,

1671
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:57,600
Speaker 18: that's crazy man. Yeah, So shout out Nor, shout outa.

1672
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:01,720
Speaker 1: He spoke to him, Jaya, Yes, while I was in

1673
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 1: the National Stadium in Jamaica. Why someone put him on

1674
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 1: FaceTime Wow and we was talking.

1675
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:12,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because I'm just being honest.

1676
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 1: Man.

1677
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 2: When you say you're the world boss, it means it, man,

1678
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:19,320
Speaker 2: it means it. I mean, like you said earlier, you

1679
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 2: said the people who named you that.

1680
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:21,240
Speaker 1: Yes. I like.

1681
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 2: The thing about it is, you know everyone in here,

1682
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 2: it's every nationality and this goddamnit, yes man, because everybody

1683
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:32,679
Speaker 2: wanted to be here to make sure we give you your

1684
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:34,760
Speaker 2: flowers because you deserve this.

1685
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 1: You are the world Boss. Yeah.

1686
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:44,320
Speaker 2: I like that, and we're so happy, Like you know,

1687
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 2: it's so inspiration for a person, you know, from the

1688
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:51,040
Speaker 2: hood that can maybe make it wrong turn, take that

1689
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:53,720
Speaker 2: turn and then come home and then re established. Like

1690
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 2: I didn't hear you complain, No, no, I didn't hear you.

1691
01:42:57,120 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 1: No bitterness. I hate you home, went straight back. And

1692
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:05,440
Speaker 1: it's amazing.

1693
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 2: It's amazing, like to see what you're doing, to see

1694
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:10,799
Speaker 2: how people are following you.

1695
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 1: And it's real. It's like you don't even have to

1696
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 1: you don't have to claim your thrown no no, no no, no,

1697
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 1: people claim it for you.

1698
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 4: Thank you sir.

1699
01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 1: And that's that's what's crazy about it, you know what

1700
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean.

1701
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:25,800
Speaker 2: But there's anything you will I know you say you

1702
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,600
Speaker 2: don't have no regrets, but there's anything you thought you

1703
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:29,320
Speaker 2: could do better.

1704
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:38,760
Speaker 1: What was one of those things? Watch short Boss Pussy Moore.

1705
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:45,000
Speaker 1: I should have put the dudes on her, like driving eyes,

1706
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 1: like undercover fucking agent to watch the pussys. That's time

1707
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:55,879
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be honest. When I met see them,

1708
01:43:56,040 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 1: that's my current fiance. It was twenty fifteen, twenty fifth Yeah,

1709
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,400
Speaker 1: I met while us in jail, Yeah, in Oka. And

1710
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:05,600
Speaker 1: at that time, me and Shurety was going through a

1711
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 1: lot because remember I'm in prison, I'm fighting graves disease.

1712
01:44:10,240 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 1: Even now I have it. That's why I wear my

1713
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 1: shades because sometimes like even now we're smoking, my eyes

1714
01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 1: will irritate me. My eyes will get swollen. Yeah, straight up,

1715
01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 1: because we're human, you know what I mean. And Shorty

1716
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:27,960
Speaker 1: Sidem was there for me, and like I said, I

1717
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:33,600
Speaker 1: understand Shorty's perspective. Think about this, you're in prison. Two years,

1718
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:37,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to hold it. And she did three years,

1719
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 1: four years, five years, six seven Roh eight Nigga nine

1720
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:48,680
Speaker 1: Dog ten come on, man, So that's for me, Like,

1721
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm a realist. And what was you originally sentenced to?

1722
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 1: How many years? Thirty fucking five? Man? It was like, yeah,

1723
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 1: thirty five before parole. So I would have if things

1724
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 1: went out they want, I would still be in prison. So,

1725
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 1: like I said, and Sidem was there for me. She

1726
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 1: was We spoke on the whole night of the night,

1727
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 1: days on days she was there. And in Jamaica, when

1728
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:15,439
Speaker 1: someone represents for you while you're in prison, you don't

1729
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:19,960
Speaker 1: forget that you're going to hell. So but my thing

1730
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 1: is this, I understand people, which is one of the

1731
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:26,920
Speaker 1: things that has made me be a great artist. I

1732
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:30,799
Speaker 1: understand people, human nature. So I could never be angry

1733
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:35,000
Speaker 1: with my baby mom. I love her, still respect her

1734
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 1: because she raised my kids and based on the person

1735
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:41,720
Speaker 1: that I was, a lot of people would expect my

1736
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:46,320
Speaker 1: children to be gangsters in the streets, shooting guns whatever whatever.

1737
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 1: She held them down. None of my sons. Like I said,

1738
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,720
Speaker 1: I was in prison with Mavada's son, who is my

1739
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 1: son's best friend. A lot of people don't know that.

1740
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 1: So even when me and Mavada was at it fighting,

1741
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 1: the whole Jamaica was divided like his son and my

1742
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,240
Speaker 1: son were crazy. I'm telling you, bro. Even when I

1743
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 1: was in prison, Madams like, yo, say hi to Jahim

1744
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah. So yeah, big old, big old Movada's son.

1745
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 1: Enough respect, enough love to the Gully God. Yeah man,

1746
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:27,320
Speaker 1: it's yeah free. I want to talk about that.

1747
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 6: I want to talk about that period because I feel

1748
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 6: like we just breathed period.

1749
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:35,240
Speaker 1: That's a monthly thing for time. I want to talk

1750
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 1: about that time. We just breezed over it. So that time.

1751
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like that, yeah, Gaza versus Gully. You know,

1752
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:49,600
Speaker 2: it got so serious where the government had to The

1753
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 2: government stepped in. They weren't giving us permise to do concerts.

1754
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:54,719
Speaker 2: They shut that ship down.

1755
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:58,519
Speaker 1: They were like, bro, but funny enough, when Mavado and

1756
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 1: I were at the the King's House, which is where

1757
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,840
Speaker 1: the government is. So we were there and they were like, yo,

1758
01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 1: you need to shut this down. Let the kids know,

1759
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 1: because the kids took it very serious. Like he is

1760
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 1: small Tupac two point zero in Jamaica. I'm not even joking.

1761
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 1: I remember you know that he knows that. And the

1762
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 1: government was like, bro, we will shut you guys down.

1763
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:31,640
Speaker 1: Stop talking about But them times when they took a

1764
01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:33,640
Speaker 1: break in the meeting and me and my father was

1765
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 1: in the government building and we were like, yo, look

1766
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 1: where music brought us. And that's when we had a

1767
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:46,479
Speaker 1: moment and it was like, yo, we need to fix this.

1768
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 1: And we did it. For a few months. The war

1769
01:47:55,160 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 1: started again. Why black people and we have ego and

1770
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 1: we come from blocking and now we're rich, so you know,

1771
01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 1: you know what black man and his ego. Of course

1772
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 1: we have something to prove. Well, yeah, man, And we

1773
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:13,640
Speaker 1: did the fighting again round two. The government came in.

1774
01:48:13,720 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 1: They did us, I mean they shut down everything. And

1775
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 1: then does us tiffany y Yeah, he was like, yo,

1776
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 1: let me speak to you guys. And we did the

1777
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:30,240
Speaker 1: meeting and it was like yo, for real, man, we

1778
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 1: need to chill. When does us come soon? Right? Yeah?

1779
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:37,280
Speaker 1: He got arrested in twenty ten, become there. It was

1780
01:48:37,280 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 1: a big thing in Jamaica. A lot of people died

1781
01:48:39,320 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 1: and oh yeah yeah, yeah, a lot of people coming

1782
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 1: home soon. Right, Yes, he should be. I don't know when,

1783
01:48:45,880 --> 01:48:48,320
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, I thought they had It's crazy man,

1784
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 1: that Dan Saul is. The people in Jamaica, they love them,

1785
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:55,759
Speaker 1: so they take music serious. Yeah, which is good because

1786
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 1: That's why if you're a star in Jamaica, you're a

1787
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:04,240
Speaker 1: star forever. You have no expiration date. That's how much

1788
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:08,240
Speaker 1: you look. You revered right right, Yes, you're revered like

1789
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:11,599
Speaker 1: this worship like next to Jesus. You know what I mean,

1790
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 1: what was it like?

1791
01:49:12,479 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 2: If you're a star in Jamaica, you're a star all

1792
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:18,720
Speaker 2: over the world. That's because I just being honest, as

1793
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:22,360
Speaker 2: your cousin, I see the influence that Jamaica has around

1794
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 2: the world, around the world, not just as entertainers.

1795
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:30,879
Speaker 1: Remember Mark, Marcus Gary, he told the entire Latin America

1796
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 1: that's why we begin Panama, we begin Latin America. Costa

1797
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 1: Rica Venezuela is from Jamaica. He's Jamaican. He's not from Jamaica,

1798
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 1: but yeah, but yeah, he has this Jamaican heritage because remember,

1799
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:49,639
Speaker 1: like I said, funny enough, Marcus Garvey, you know who

1800
01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 1: was his right hand man, Elijah Muhammad. You used to

1801
01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 1: run the Detroit office of the U n I A

1802
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:02,040
Speaker 1: for Marcus. Really, no joke, I kid you not. That's crazy.

1803
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Jamaican have always had that influence in

1804
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 1: America with our customs to African America. You've always had

1805
01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 1: that influence, you know what I mean. So, and like

1806
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 1: I said, uh, the Honorable Elijah Muhammad was Marcus Larv's

1807
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:21,559
Speaker 1: point man in Detroit.

1808
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 5: And for people that don't know, that's the founder of

1809
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:26,320
Speaker 5: the Nation of Islam exactly.

1810
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:33,160
Speaker 1: Malcolm Xu's father was Marcus darvis right hand man. You know,

1811
01:50:33,200 --> 01:50:37,599
Speaker 1: they tied into a train track and let the training. Yes,

1812
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:52,519
Speaker 1: it's crazy man, Yeah, how can you remember you weren't there? Yeah?

1813
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:55,559
Speaker 12: Yeah, Malcolm Mexican Autobiography, yeh, that's where I read.

1814
01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:00,760
Speaker 1: Look, Yes, look At, look At. You can tell that

1815
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:06,280
Speaker 1: there's influenced by Yeah, it's literally by Look malcome xt

1816
01:51:06,400 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 1: the Pose, which is the album Bob Marley did Disposed

1817
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:14,400
Speaker 1: as well. So I'm sure he was into because Bob

1818
01:51:14,439 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 1: Marley sang a lot of Marcus Larvae philosophies, put it

1819
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:23,280
Speaker 1: to music, and he puts high the speech that he

1820
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 1: made at this philosophy the United Nations sometimes it wasn't

1821
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 1: called the United Nations, it was called I don't remember

1822
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:43,800
Speaker 1: United Nas, United Niggas. So Bob Marley. That's that's why

1823
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:47,200
Speaker 1: Bob Marley so powerful, because you know he's mixed. Is

1824
01:51:47,240 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 1: that is why why it's glad we had to navigate

1825
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:56,479
Speaker 1: through that racial tension back in the day when in

1826
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 1: the seventies, in Jamaica sixties, if you were light skinned,

1827
01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:04,000
Speaker 1: you were kind of frowned upon. Yeah, so man, we

1828
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 1: love Bob though like our generation respect Bob. He represented

1829
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 1: for Marcus Larvey, he represented for Selassie. I highly Selassie. Yeah,

1830
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 1: even when I was in La like ef the Opians,

1831
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:18,640
Speaker 1: they came to the hotel contact we love you.

1832
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let me ask you access to Chris Brown.

1833
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 1: Oh represent big up Chris Brown. He won fucking yeah.

1834
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1835
01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 1: My favorite song on the album is Residual. So who

1836
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:39,719
Speaker 1: said yes I knew? Yes, yeah, big up Chris Brown. Man. Yeah,

1837
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 1: so ask Chris Brown, why do I not have a drink?

1838
01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:49,920
Speaker 2: And come on, come on, you slacking?

1839
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:53,640
Speaker 1: You know brownie light skin girls in Jamaica we call

1840
01:52:53,720 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 1: them brown and famous. When he did Brownie Broom, the

1841
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:09,559
Speaker 1: whole Jamaica wanted to fucking there was like and then

1842
01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:13,759
Speaker 1: he did black Women, a song called black Woman, remember

1843
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:20,719
Speaker 1: you know stop Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, so that's it.

1844
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:24,679
Speaker 1: It's crazy bro dying. Saw you set the trend? Yes,

1845
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 1: and we we we navigate the culture. Yes, so big

1846
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 1: big up legend them, okay.

1847
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:35,760
Speaker 2: Before I get into this, right yeah. Now the second festival, yes,

1848
01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:41,439
Speaker 2: Freedom Street, Yeah, oh ship you said London, right, Okay,

1849
01:53:41,720 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 2: let's forward to the third to the third one. Yes,

1850
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 2: let's say it's in Miami. Yeah, who would you put

1851
01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:50,200
Speaker 2: book on that?

1852
01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:51,240
Speaker 1: Freedom caught up black?

1853
01:53:56,200 --> 01:53:57,840
Speaker 4: And he's Caribbean as well.

1854
01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:18,600
Speaker 1: Locations in Jamaica and Haitians have always been because Caribbean

1855
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:23,080
Speaker 1: the most powerful countries in the Caribbean. Jamaica, HEDI Trinidad,

1856
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 1: remember Haitian Black Yeah, New York Okay, So yeah, Jack,

1857
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 1: it's sorry, it's the Fuckingian Jack right, yes, sir. Yeah.

1858
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 1: And the culture is really in the Caribbean man, and

1859
01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:47,240
Speaker 1: we share the love. Yes, I was in Trinidad the

1860
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,880
Speaker 1: other day. I was launching the Straight Vibes. So we

1861
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:56,440
Speaker 1: launched in Trinidad, Guyana, Barbados, Saint Lucia and I'm doing

1862
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 1: the same kids music festival, so we launching it there.

1863
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 2: If you heard that's when you when you came home

1864
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 2: at first we heard you was in Saint Kits.

1865
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 1: Yes, no, St. Vincent Us. I want to visit the

1866
01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:12,960
Speaker 1: Prime Minister. He sent from his private chess everything right now, yeah, yeah,

1867
01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:19,040
Speaker 1: I am. I am I'm starting Jackie because he does

1868
01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:22,080
Speaker 1: his own stunts, right. Because so, yeah, we went to

1869
01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 1: Saint Vincent, met the Prime minister. He calls himself world Boss,

1870
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 1: the the Prime Minister of Saint Vincent. Fucking fun fact,

1871
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:33,240
Speaker 1: I got a call from the Prime Minister of Guyana.

1872
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 1: He was like cartel me and you is the world

1873
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:45,960
Speaker 1: bar not that guy. Yeah, because that's how that's that's

1874
01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 1: what that's what I'm saying. It's like the unity among

1875
01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 1: among the Caribbean islands. It's like Japan, you know, they

1876
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 1: have like a million islands, but they're still Japanese. Like

1877
01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 1: okay now when I was okay, now a supporter, you

1878
01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's how the Caribbean is.

1879
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 1: We have that unity, you know, the calypso the danceau

1880
01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:08,840
Speaker 1: at least some of the English speaking couray Man bring

1881
01:56:08,840 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 1: Cuban in there, bro we need That's why I said.

1882
01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 1: You notice, that's why I said English. The Cubans and

1883
01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:17,040
Speaker 1: Jamaicans are still.

1884
01:56:17,120 --> 01:56:19,240
Speaker 5: There's a part of Cuba that there's a lot of Jamaicans.

1885
01:56:20,320 --> 01:56:25,920
Speaker 1: Nine out of ten doctors in Jamaica Cuba. Yeah, because

1886
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:28,880
Speaker 1: you know they do good medicine, right, Yeah, because they

1887
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 1: get it from the Soviets. Well not Soviet now, because

1888
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 1: that ship is all US Russian, remember us SR Right, yeah,

1889
01:56:37,120 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 1: Reagan fuck that ship up. Do you eat doubles? Doubles?

1890
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 1: I love doubles. Doubles is like fucking no, seriously, doubles

1891
01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 1: in Trinidad. It's like jerk chicken in Jamaica. That's why

1892
01:56:53,240 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 1: when you said jerk chicken or coury chicken, I had

1893
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 1: to take the shot. Right. Oh, I like that girl?

1894
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:09,080
Speaker 1: Is she? Oh no, we lime in. She knows you real,

1895
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:14,880
Speaker 1: pretty gal. That's my best triming impression ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1896
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:22,280
Speaker 1: we lime in dread. I know, dream chimps. You fuck

1897
01:57:22,360 --> 01:57:25,560
Speaker 1: with doubles? What's your favorite version of doubles? My favorite

1898
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 1: version of doubles is the one that that dude don't like.

1899
01:57:34,400 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 1: But seriously though, well yeah, like when I've been to Barbados,

1900
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 1: I had shark, yeah, bacon shark. Yeah. In Jamaica we

1901
01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:48,160
Speaker 1: have crocodiles. You can eat the crocodile tail. Never had that.

1902
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:51,360
Speaker 1: This is Florida. I'm sure you guys you don't eat

1903
01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 1: I tell you, yeah, how the crocodile. That's racist, that's

1904
01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:09,040
Speaker 1: that's preggator. That's here you. Yeah, but yeah, that's how

1905
01:58:09,040 --> 01:58:15,640
Speaker 1: we do it. Yeah, I mean s yeah, yeah, I know, yeah,

1906
01:58:15,680 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 1: I know.

1907
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:20,920
Speaker 2: So can you explain to people that listen to this,

1908
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 2: listen to the reggae music and listen to the dancehold

1909
01:58:23,520 --> 01:58:27,720
Speaker 2: music and listen to the culture. You can love reggae,

1910
01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:29,440
Speaker 2: you can love dancehol You don't have to.

1911
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:33,000
Speaker 1: Be a ra no no, okay, oh no. Even Morgan

1912
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:36,000
Speaker 1: heritage they had a big song in Jamaica. You don't

1913
01:58:36,040 --> 01:58:40,120
Speaker 1: have to dread be rasta because remember this is the dreads.

1914
01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean, this is fucking fake, but it's it's human here.

1915
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:47,480
Speaker 1: I got this from my brothers in Africa. I don't

1916
01:58:47,480 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 1: know who died and oh my god, yeah yeah yeah.

1917
01:58:57,440 --> 01:59:03,000
Speaker 1: But reggae music is a for Jamaica's so is dansall

1918
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:05,120
Speaker 1: because remember, like I said, Dan Saull came out in

1919
01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: the seventies, seventy four, seventy five, seventy six. I was

1920
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:12,720
Speaker 1: born in seventy six, so I'm a product of Dan

1921
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 1: Saul And also the Cold War because remember the US

1922
01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 1: A sorry say, they had that thing and that's what

1923
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:26,160
Speaker 1: honestly brought that level of violence to Jamaica and changed

1924
01:59:26,160 --> 01:59:31,000
Speaker 1: the culture and then when the violence came, you needed

1925
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 1: an art for him to express it. And that's how

1926
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:38,920
Speaker 1: the Dan Shaul was burned. Who were those first early

1927
01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:45,600
Speaker 1: dance artists in the seventies, King Stitch, Bigyud which big

1928
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:48,080
Speaker 1: youth son is the lawyer that got me free?

1929
01:59:48,360 --> 01:59:50,600
Speaker 4: Oh wow, he's one.

1930
01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 1: Of the first DJs. Wow, and his son freed the

1931
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 1: number one DJ or isat Mechanic right. Think about that,

1932
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:04,240
Speaker 1: that's crazy. The appeal and when he was in law school,

1933
02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:08,240
Speaker 1: he was telling his friends that I'm gonna free fives

1934
02:00:08,280 --> 02:00:15,400
Speaker 1: cartel and he actually did, actually did. What what is it?

1935
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 1: The l what is it? The T j P, j

1936
02:00:19,240 --> 02:00:21,320
Speaker 1: l P and the P and P and the j

1937
02:00:21,480 --> 02:00:23,160
Speaker 1: l P is the political.

1938
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:27,839
Speaker 4: Which the Labor Party. They were conservative minigans.

1939
02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were conservatives.

1940
02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:31,920
Speaker 19: They were recon at the time.

1941
02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:35,200
Speaker 5: So you have you have basically like Russia's camp and

1942
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:36,360
Speaker 5: pn P.

1943
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:38,840
Speaker 1: Basically that's why P and P even to this day

1944
02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 1: we called they called themselves socialists.

1945
02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:45,200
Speaker 5: Right, that's why you're saying started Yeah from the.

1946
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:47,200
Speaker 1: Cold War, remember just like the Nicarago with the contrast

1947
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:52,920
Speaker 1: the Sandinist underneath us Sandonist. So it was that proxy

1948
02:00:52,960 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 1: were all over the place happened in Congo to with

1949
02:00:55,800 --> 02:00:59,920
Speaker 1: with Lomba happened in Kenya with So it's that they

1950
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:01,080
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean?

1951
02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:03,960
Speaker 2: You know the teacher man, I am, you know teaching.

1952
02:01:07,240 --> 02:01:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, my program. I saw the people love me because

1953
02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:12,080
Speaker 1: they they know they believe in me because I'm not

1954
02:01:12,120 --> 02:01:14,960
Speaker 1: going to bullshit them. I keep it real and I

1955
02:01:15,040 --> 02:01:19,240
Speaker 1: seen my truth since I grew up in Jamaica. My

1956
02:01:19,400 --> 02:01:26,920
Speaker 1: truth is Jamaica's truth. It is what it is. So

1957
02:01:27,000 --> 02:01:29,760
Speaker 1: let me actually write for Jamaica. I'll give it right

1958
02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 1: back to you.

1959
02:01:30,200 --> 02:01:32,400
Speaker 2: Ros right, So let me ask you when when when

1960
02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:36,960
Speaker 2: Esketball was locked up? Right, they said that like one

1961
02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:39,800
Speaker 2: night every two or three months, he would come out,

1962
02:01:40,120 --> 02:01:40,960
Speaker 2: he would do something.

1963
02:01:41,080 --> 02:01:47,200
Speaker 1: Yes, within your thirteen years, I've got lots of oh damn.

1964
02:01:48,080 --> 02:01:52,919
Speaker 4: There, right, question.

1965
02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:56,440
Speaker 2: If you had like how Essketball did he came out

1966
02:01:56,480 --> 02:01:59,120
Speaker 2: one night every two months? If you ever had one

1967
02:01:59,200 --> 02:02:02,040
Speaker 2: night about yeah problem, I'm sorry.

1968
02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to ask you what I As

1969
02:02:06,160 --> 02:02:08,880
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, remember you said Vibe Cartell was

1970
02:02:08,920 --> 02:02:12,200
Speaker 1: the group where you think you got the cartel. Yeah, yes,

1971
02:02:12,400 --> 02:02:16,520
Speaker 1: from escob Cali Calie Cartel. Yes. Yeah. So if you

1972
02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:18,880
Speaker 1: like with every two months.

1973
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:21,000
Speaker 2: If you can come out and do one thing, but

1974
02:02:21,080 --> 02:02:23,920
Speaker 2: in your thirteen year bid, what was that one thing

1975
02:02:23,960 --> 02:02:24,360
Speaker 2: you would do?

1976
02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:30,440
Speaker 1: My kids? Man, damn, that's the thanks to my kid

1977
02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:34,400
Speaker 1: post wasn't the problem. I don't know if I can

1978
02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:36,520
Speaker 1: say this now you can say you can Yeah that

1979
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:40,040
Speaker 1: sound free? Yeah right, double jeopardy. You can't take you back.

1980
02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:44,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, pushy wasn't a problem. Pushy was Oh god, no,

1981
02:02:44,520 --> 02:02:49,400
Speaker 1: not all the time, but yeah, yeah, ver y, yeah exactly.

1982
02:02:49,480 --> 02:02:54,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, that's the only thing because remember in

1983
02:02:55,040 --> 02:03:00,280
Speaker 1: Jamaican prisoners, if it's not family Day, you're u and

1984
02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:03,400
Speaker 1: can't come and see you Oh wow, because if you

1985
02:03:03,600 --> 02:03:06,280
Speaker 1: if you're not eighteen years old, you can't come to

1986
02:03:06,360 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 1: visit me on a regular day. They have things that

1987
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:12,840
Speaker 1: they keep on family Day, which is like in Christmas,

1988
02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:14,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you need to see your

1989
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:20,840
Speaker 1: kids Easter. Yeah, so we got like to twice a year.

1990
02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:25,080
Speaker 1: I got to sell my see my kids. Wow. Yeah,

1991
02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 1: so that's crazy. But like women whatever, that's but that

1992
02:03:33,120 --> 02:03:36,760
Speaker 1: wasn't on the top of my to do list. My

1993
02:03:36,880 --> 02:03:40,400
Speaker 1: to do list was to raise my fucking kids, even

1994
02:03:40,440 --> 02:03:43,480
Speaker 1: from behind even from behind bars. And that's why I

1995
02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:46,840
Speaker 1: say to you. My baby mom, like shorty, I give

1996
02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:50,560
Speaker 1: her her props. She did made sure even though I

1997
02:03:50,720 --> 02:03:56,120
Speaker 1: was who I was, my kids didn't emulate my lifestyle.

1998
02:03:57,200 --> 02:03:59,520
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. My daughter like she wants

1999
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:02,760
Speaker 1: to be a dog because she's Yeah, she's doing well

2000
02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:05,880
Speaker 1: in school and so on. So that's what I respect

2001
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:10,080
Speaker 1: about my baby mother's. They weren't just they put in

2002
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:13,520
Speaker 1: the world respect. Yeah, I got it. How many kids

2003
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:16,120
Speaker 1: total that I got, like seven? Seven? I have to

2004
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:19,920
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, you know, in flat Bush. That's what I'm saying.

2005
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:22,760
Speaker 1: That's why when you said Miami or I said New York,

2006
02:04:22,840 --> 02:04:25,440
Speaker 1: I got My children are in Flatbush. I've got two

2007
02:04:25,560 --> 02:04:28,360
Speaker 1: sons in flat Bush right now.

2008
02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:32,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, blood.

2009
02:04:35,960 --> 02:04:39,560
Speaker 1: Forever. You know, Brooklyn is Little's Jamaica. Even though you're

2010
02:04:39,560 --> 02:04:47,720
Speaker 1: a queen's nigga block you fifty Nikki Love. Come on,

2011
02:04:47,960 --> 02:04:54,600
Speaker 1: come on, that's it. That's it man. Yeah, I know.

2012
02:04:54,680 --> 02:04:58,920
Speaker 1: You say you don't regret nine, and I can't because

2013
02:04:58,920 --> 02:05:01,320
Speaker 1: I'm still alive at for nine years old. What the

2014
02:05:01,320 --> 02:05:04,640
Speaker 1: fuck is there to regret? Come on, man, I came

2015
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:08,960
Speaker 1: out a person Freedom Street. I kept Freedom Street with

2016
02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:13,560
Speaker 1: this white guy from Jamaica is called Joe Bogdanovich. He's

2017
02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:17,360
Speaker 1: not from Jenaicas, so obviously it's from California, which is Scatter,

2018
02:05:17,680 --> 02:05:23,760
Speaker 1: my other road manager. He's a yeah, so we were yeah,

2019
02:05:24,040 --> 02:05:27,200
Speaker 1: but we planned Freedom Street from behind bars. That's how

2020
02:05:27,240 --> 02:05:31,839
Speaker 1: confident I was that I was coming out my fiance

2021
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:34,640
Speaker 1: see them. I sent for her in twenty twenty two.

2022
02:05:35,320 --> 02:05:37,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm living in Jamaica. She's from English.

2023
02:05:37,400 --> 02:05:40,600
Speaker 1: She was like, oh my god, I don't know girl.

2024
02:05:40,880 --> 02:05:51,280
Speaker 1: Richie fuck Richards fuck. So she came. I got her apartment,

2025
02:05:51,320 --> 02:05:54,240
Speaker 1: got her arrange over, gave her some money, opened her

2026
02:05:54,240 --> 02:05:57,520
Speaker 1: bank account, and she came because, like I said, I've

2027
02:05:57,560 --> 02:06:01,560
Speaker 1: known her since twenty fifteen. So she came to Jamaica. Yeah. Yeah,

2028
02:06:01,720 --> 02:06:04,320
Speaker 1: and she's been here ever since. She's with me. Now

2029
02:06:04,360 --> 02:06:11,720
Speaker 1: she's in Lauderdale, right, Yeah, yeah, she was there and

2030
02:06:11,880 --> 02:06:14,520
Speaker 1: this is all I know. She was real. Even when

2031
02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:17,120
Speaker 1: I came out and I started posting her more often.

2032
02:06:17,800 --> 02:06:21,880
Speaker 1: Her friends from England was like, Yo, the high school

2033
02:06:22,160 --> 02:06:25,560
Speaker 1: see them would be proud of you because since she

2034
02:06:25,720 --> 02:06:28,800
Speaker 1: was in high school, she was like, oh god, I'm

2035
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:34,000
Speaker 1: gonna marry Vibe Cartel. Oh bro, I'm serious. He's like

2036
02:06:34,040 --> 02:06:42,800
Speaker 1: a fucking a Netfeix fucking series. Right, have a girl again? Yeah?

2037
02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, well one burner in Jamaica. One burner.

2038
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:49,160
Speaker 1: It's kind of derogatory because that means you only have

2039
02:06:49,200 --> 02:06:55,600
Speaker 1: one woman, and in Jamaica that's fucking frowned upon. Yeah,

2040
02:06:55,640 --> 02:06:58,880
Speaker 1: like what the fuck you're doing? Yeah, so big up

2041
02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:08,760
Speaker 1: seem She was like, well looked hard for me. Yes,

2042
02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:11,520
Speaker 1: when you left.

2043
02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:16,600
Speaker 2: Your kids was in single digits.

2044
02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:19,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I left prison, they was children. When I

2045
02:07:19,720 --> 02:07:25,600
Speaker 1: came out, they gave me grandchildren. You're writing my interview, Yes, crazy,

2046
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:30,160
Speaker 1: congratulations grandchildren? Yeah, set my daughter because you know I

2047
02:07:30,160 --> 02:07:35,040
Speaker 1: would slapped the ship out of her. I'm joking. It's alcohol.

2048
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:41,600
Speaker 5: He's like, funny, not funny, not funny.

2049
02:07:41,760 --> 02:07:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she's a genius though she like she's an

2050
02:07:44,880 --> 02:07:48,760
Speaker 1: A grade student. She's like a head girl of prefect whatever.

2051
02:07:48,840 --> 02:07:52,400
Speaker 1: She wants to be a doctor, So I told her

2052
02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:54,800
Speaker 1: she needs to invent something better than viagra.

2053
02:07:58,200 --> 02:08:05,880
Speaker 4: Right, I wasn't. So how did the chepherd smile it?

2054
02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:19,440
Speaker 1: How does it feel to be your grandfather? How liquory?

2055
02:08:20,680 --> 02:08:21,160
Speaker 4: How feel?

2056
02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:24,280
Speaker 2: Because they were single digits and they got double dish

2057
02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:26,400
Speaker 2: and they gave you, How did it feel when they told.

2058
02:08:26,280 --> 02:08:29,120
Speaker 1: You you're gonna be your grandfather. It was amazing. I

2059
02:08:29,200 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 1: wasn't in prison at the time, so I've never seen

2060
02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:35,080
Speaker 1: my grandson. So when they kept the family day, which

2061
02:08:35,120 --> 02:08:37,760
Speaker 1: is when you can bring your family there, So they

2062
02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:40,320
Speaker 1: came and my grandson he met me, he was like, yeah,

2063
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:44,320
Speaker 1: I don't know you nigga. You know what I mean, crying,

2064
02:08:44,360 --> 02:08:47,160
Speaker 1: and Ship gave him a piece of chicken. He took

2065
02:08:47,160 --> 02:08:51,560
Speaker 1: the chicken. Yeah, I still don't know your nigga. Well,

2066
02:08:51,600 --> 02:08:53,480
Speaker 1: it was crange. So when I came out, he like,

2067
02:08:53,640 --> 02:08:56,800
Speaker 1: that's when he started embracing me because he saw how

2068
02:08:56,840 --> 02:09:01,720
Speaker 1: his dad, his mom and everybody that he knew embraced me.

2069
02:09:01,800 --> 02:09:05,320
Speaker 1: So it was like, oh, fucking man, Yeah, this nigga

2070
02:09:05,360 --> 02:09:10,720
Speaker 1: is fucking gray beards and yeah. Yeah. So and then

2071
02:09:11,200 --> 02:09:14,520
Speaker 1: my son gave me a granddaughter. Oh, then my other

2072
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:19,400
Speaker 1: son gave me another granddaughter. Yeah, you three grand I

2073
02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:23,520
Speaker 1: got three grand children from my two sons. I got one. Oh,

2074
02:09:23,720 --> 02:09:28,320
Speaker 1: but you're America, don't don't you know? He's America's different.

2075
02:09:28,640 --> 02:09:37,040
Speaker 1: Just it's crazy. So yeah, I got to big them up.

2076
02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:46,920
Speaker 9: Goddamn Yeah, crazy little bro. I like drinks, shamp not

2077
02:09:47,120 --> 02:09:53,800
Speaker 9: just for the drinks. Ship, Yeah, Drink Drink.

2078
02:09:53,880 --> 02:09:56,160
Speaker 1: Champ is everything I thought it would because, like I said,

2079
02:09:56,160 --> 02:09:58,640
Speaker 1: I was in prison watching everything. I watched the Neil

2080
02:09:59,200 --> 02:10:01,240
Speaker 1: in the Bush if you did the Bean Mane, I

2081
02:10:01,240 --> 02:10:04,440
Speaker 1: watched all of that like that and not just me

2082
02:10:04,880 --> 02:10:10,720
Speaker 1: at the entire prison. Yes, you watched Black No, I

2083
02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:13,320
Speaker 1: respect him. You call the black is like I said,

2084
02:10:13,360 --> 02:10:18,160
Speaker 1: he's Asian. He's fucking crazy. That's the Caribbean breeze. I

2085
02:10:18,160 --> 02:10:22,840
Speaker 1: think something is in the wind makes us fucking crazy. Bro,

2086
02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:28,320
Speaker 1: Cardi B. You write Cardi B to your wedding? Yes, yes,

2087
02:10:28,520 --> 02:10:30,200
Speaker 1: I would love her to be who else you wanted

2088
02:10:30,240 --> 02:10:32,240
Speaker 1: to perform at your wedding? But abant and I told

2089
02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:33,560
Speaker 1: you that he is my number one.

2090
02:10:33,520 --> 02:10:38,560
Speaker 2: Artists and spoken and since you've been out, yeah, but

2091
02:10:38,560 --> 02:10:42,200
Speaker 2: but we haven't met up really, No, I'm serious.

2092
02:10:42,480 --> 02:10:44,520
Speaker 1: I met bond te Killer when he was at fucking

2093
02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:47,000
Speaker 1: Freedom Street. That's the first time I saw him since

2094
02:10:47,000 --> 02:10:50,400
Speaker 1: I came up. Remember this guy made me. Yeah that's

2095
02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:57,440
Speaker 1: that's what Killer said. Here's the kid down. Yeah yeah, yes, yeah,

2096
02:10:57,640 --> 02:11:02,920
Speaker 1: But like that Bounty, I'm the king of dan Saw,

2097
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:06,840
Speaker 1: but Bounty is the king of artists. Think about it.

2098
02:11:07,320 --> 02:11:10,520
Speaker 1: This man met so many people. If you know the Bible.

2099
02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:16,240
Speaker 1: He's like Abraham because remember Abraham created the beginning Islam.

2100
02:11:16,800 --> 02:11:24,360
Speaker 1: Andrews that's what they call Yeah, think about it. That's yeah,

2101
02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:26,080
Speaker 1: Bountikill his father Abraham.

2102
02:11:26,120 --> 02:11:26,240
Speaker 5: Bro.

2103
02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, bro, Yo, you know what.

2104
02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:36,400
Speaker 4: Give me the class for question? Bounty, I'm telling.

2105
02:11:36,120 --> 02:11:40,000
Speaker 1: You so being the man, bigger, theself beloved, your catmember,

2106
02:11:40,560 --> 02:11:44,440
Speaker 1: Like I can't lie, I'd rather not say ship. So,

2107
02:11:44,880 --> 02:11:48,160
Speaker 1: like I said, Bounty, being a bog Ninjaman cartel. That's

2108
02:11:48,160 --> 02:11:53,120
Speaker 1: the top five for me. I love, that's the top

2109
02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:57,200
Speaker 1: for me and me. Why would I least be out

2110
02:12:07,920 --> 02:12:14,960
Speaker 1: Big up my manager TJ. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Scat

2111
02:12:15,040 --> 02:12:17,960
Speaker 1: that's my road manager. But with TJ, we call him

2112
02:12:17,960 --> 02:12:21,560
Speaker 1: the grnch. And this is why. No, he steals happiness,

2113
02:12:22,800 --> 02:12:27,040
Speaker 1: which is good because remember you know, we're artists. If

2114
02:12:27,040 --> 02:12:32,240
Speaker 1: you leave us unattended, we funck ourselves up. So that's

2115
02:12:32,280 --> 02:12:35,680
Speaker 1: why he's the balance, you know what I mean? So

2116
02:12:35,760 --> 02:12:38,280
Speaker 1: big up t J. He's the grinch, Like, yeah, yeah,

2117
02:12:38,280 --> 02:12:40,520
Speaker 1: we got to give him props. He keeps me grounded,

2118
02:12:41,320 --> 02:12:44,360
Speaker 1: he keeps me focused, and he keeps me in check.

2119
02:12:44,520 --> 02:12:46,919
Speaker 1: The eye on the prize, yeah, the eye on the prize.

2120
02:12:47,200 --> 02:12:48,560
Speaker 1: But he's not sit there. Fuck you.

2121
02:12:48,680 --> 02:12:53,840
Speaker 4: Nigga's my bro.

2122
02:12:54,600 --> 02:12:56,040
Speaker 1: That's why we finished this interview.

2123
02:12:56,040 --> 02:12:57,880
Speaker 2: I want to play your record because I need on

2124
02:12:57,960 --> 02:12:58,440
Speaker 2: the record.

2125
02:13:03,920 --> 02:13:05,800
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, I.

2126
02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:08,080
Speaker 2: Gotta take another shot if you don't have to take

2127
02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:08,320
Speaker 2: it one.

2128
02:13:08,400 --> 02:13:10,120
Speaker 1: No, I just want to take some more this fever.

2129
02:13:10,520 --> 02:13:12,280
Speaker 1: I want to take some more of this fever has

2130
02:13:12,320 --> 02:13:17,200
Speaker 1: to fucking what this hey look look on supported by

2131
02:13:17,200 --> 02:13:22,360
Speaker 1: a feminist. Yes, yes, yes, but let me just send

2132
02:13:22,360 --> 02:13:22,760
Speaker 1: you something.

2133
02:13:24,720 --> 02:13:26,440
Speaker 4: I've cheered you like five times.

2134
02:13:27,120 --> 02:13:37,880
Speaker 1: The Champagne is at the same height, keeps feeling that's

2135
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:53,560
Speaker 1: so much dreams Champage. That's what she's very fucking I

2136
02:13:53,760 --> 02:14:04,480
Speaker 1: like her. She's she's the official. Yeah yeah, yeah, you.

2137
02:14:04,520 --> 02:14:06,040
Speaker 4: Know you're huge in Jamaica.

2138
02:14:06,160 --> 02:14:07,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know Jamaica.

2139
02:14:09,120 --> 02:14:10,480
Speaker 4: You need to come to Jamaica.

2140
02:14:10,560 --> 02:14:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm coming. I was not not not Montego Bay should

2141
02:14:16,920 --> 02:14:19,200
Speaker 1: do this this with you. I know, I know, I

2142
02:14:19,280 --> 02:14:20,800
Speaker 1: know you think so that we was going to see you,

2143
02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:26,880
Speaker 1: and then the next twenty minutes they said, but we

2144
02:14:26,960 --> 02:14:29,280
Speaker 1: were all our way to see you was in Montgo Bay.

2145
02:14:29,320 --> 02:14:35,600
Speaker 1: But it's a tourist part. We have the streets. We

2146
02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:38,480
Speaker 1: was ready to love, you know. But that's what I'm

2147
02:14:38,520 --> 02:14:41,520
Speaker 1: saying Kingston and Montego Bay is one and the same.

2148
02:14:42,040 --> 02:14:45,320
Speaker 1: It's just like New York l A, No, you're ready

2149
02:14:45,320 --> 02:14:48,560
Speaker 1: to go. It's like Brooklyn. We was Compton. The hood

2150
02:14:48,680 --> 02:14:54,240
Speaker 1: is everywhere before the fucking TJ. Yeah when the white

2151
02:14:54,480 --> 02:14:57,880
Speaker 1: gentrification t J. Can you sit over there, because he've

2152
02:14:57,880 --> 02:15:08,040
Speaker 1: been looking for you for ye yeah, yeah. Right in Jamaica.

2153
02:15:08,560 --> 02:15:13,000
Speaker 1: The number one meme in Jamaica is ats TJ. Because

2154
02:15:13,080 --> 02:15:17,520
Speaker 1: everything I say, I'm like, that's the number one memes

2155
02:15:17,600 --> 02:15:25,640
Speaker 1: Jamaica right now. But he's my manager, yes, yeah, and

2156
02:15:25,800 --> 02:15:29,480
Speaker 1: this is why I see. My first manager was the

2157
02:15:29,520 --> 02:15:31,720
Speaker 1: guy that introduced me to Bounty Killer. Remember I was

2158
02:15:31,800 --> 02:15:36,000
Speaker 1: telling you so that drove you to them? Yeah? Ok,

2159
02:15:36,560 --> 02:15:38,440
Speaker 1: and he was your manager then after Yeah, he's old

2160
02:15:38,520 --> 02:15:44,160
Speaker 1: fucking n Nissan Okay, and I do the American pronunciation.

2161
02:15:44,640 --> 02:15:53,200
Speaker 1: Nissan was Nissan your blood. So I partied wasted him

2162
02:15:53,240 --> 02:15:56,440
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, two thousand and four, and I've been

2163
02:15:56,520 --> 02:16:00,320
Speaker 1: my own manager since. So everything I've done and then

2164
02:16:00,400 --> 02:16:03,600
Speaker 1: all the greatness, all the dyanceaung greatness, I did it

2165
02:16:03,680 --> 02:16:06,800
Speaker 1: by myself. When I came out, I made him my

2166
02:16:06,960 --> 02:16:10,040
Speaker 1: manager because I've known him since he was in high school.

2167
02:16:10,560 --> 02:16:14,600
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, in Jamaica, you have the ghetto

2168
02:16:15,000 --> 02:16:17,800
Speaker 1: at a hardcore fire and then you have the up.

2169
02:16:18,040 --> 02:16:21,760
Speaker 1: We call it uptown. Uptown in Jamaica means you grew

2170
02:16:21,840 --> 02:16:25,040
Speaker 1: up privileged. That my children, Okay, I grew up privilege

2171
02:16:25,040 --> 02:16:28,640
Speaker 1: because I started making money. Well, I'm from the ghetto.

2172
02:16:28,760 --> 02:16:31,680
Speaker 1: He grew up privilege. So his father is from the ghetto,

2173
02:16:32,200 --> 02:16:37,080
Speaker 1: made sure his children grew up good, right right fire. Yeah,

2174
02:16:37,240 --> 02:16:39,640
Speaker 1: So when I met him, he was just out of

2175
02:16:39,720 --> 02:16:43,920
Speaker 1: high school and he kept he had a big annual

2176
02:16:43,959 --> 02:16:48,880
Speaker 1: event called orientation. So you know that's about school orientation, right.

2177
02:16:49,080 --> 02:16:53,640
Speaker 1: It's a school party dance where you dressed up in

2178
02:16:53,720 --> 02:16:57,560
Speaker 1: your school uniform if you went to fucking whatever yet.

2179
02:16:58,280 --> 02:17:00,760
Speaker 1: So my nickname was the Teacher and that's how I

2180
02:17:00,879 --> 02:17:03,480
Speaker 1: met him. So and he was like, yo, I'm keeping

2181
02:17:03,560 --> 02:17:06,879
Speaker 1: a party. I want the teacher to pass through because

2182
02:17:06,920 --> 02:17:11,240
Speaker 1: it's called Orientation. Then he started producing. I gave him

2183
02:17:11,280 --> 02:17:14,400
Speaker 1: his first record. He got Idonia, which is also a

2184
02:17:14,440 --> 02:17:20,480
Speaker 1: big artist in Jamaica, and then he became a famous producer. Yeah, exactly, Skata,

2185
02:17:20,720 --> 02:17:23,240
Speaker 1: which is my road manager. He's actually here as well.

2186
02:17:23,800 --> 02:17:27,480
Speaker 1: He introduced me to Idoni. So and then we get,

2187
02:17:27,560 --> 02:17:30,880
Speaker 1: We showed the love, give the respect, because Bro Bounty

2188
02:17:30,920 --> 02:17:33,640
Speaker 1: Killer made me fucking rich, so I don't have a

2189
02:17:33,760 --> 02:17:39,440
Speaker 1: problem to pay forward, right, BUNTI Killer made me be

2190
02:17:39,560 --> 02:17:41,440
Speaker 1: able to take care of my family, move them out

2191
02:17:41,480 --> 02:17:44,960
Speaker 1: the ghetto, put them in some fucking mansions, So then

2192
02:17:45,040 --> 02:17:48,800
Speaker 1: we pay forward. So Scatter brought me to Idonia. I

2193
02:17:48,920 --> 02:17:52,640
Speaker 1: brought Idonia to Bounty Killer, and the rest is history,

2194
02:17:52,800 --> 02:17:53,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

2195
02:17:57,920 --> 02:17:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, when's the last time you spoke to America?

2196
02:18:00,080 --> 02:18:04,400
Speaker 1: Blood? I haven't you rolled this? Should I smoke you

2197
02:18:04,520 --> 02:18:12,440
Speaker 1: down if you fucked me up? American embassy in Jamaica. No,

2198
02:18:12,600 --> 02:18:23,240
Speaker 1: but you're American, so my ship is legal to make

2199
02:18:23,280 --> 02:18:28,080
Speaker 1: him get Boris boris is. So basically, you're telling me

2200
02:18:28,320 --> 02:18:33,240
Speaker 1: that this is only tobacco. Okay, thank you, it's only

2201
02:18:33,280 --> 02:18:37,520
Speaker 1: tobaccos tonight. It's only tobacco. Yes, and you know how

2202
02:18:37,680 --> 02:18:44,000
Speaker 1: slavery was tobacco is king. Yes. Disclaimer. If you're not black,

2203
02:18:44,080 --> 02:18:48,120
Speaker 1: you can't say nigger your vibes. I want to exclaimer.

2204
02:18:49,760 --> 02:18:52,480
Speaker 1: I want to, you know, commend you because I see

2205
02:18:52,600 --> 02:18:55,760
Speaker 1: when you first came home, when you're battling graves disease. Yeah,

2206
02:18:56,879 --> 02:19:00,640
Speaker 1: and now you did the show and you're looking amazing,

2207
02:19:01,600 --> 02:19:06,680
Speaker 1: You're feeling great. Yeah, who could you contribute that to? No.

2208
02:19:07,240 --> 02:19:11,160
Speaker 1: First of all, that's an amazing question because in the

2209
02:19:11,280 --> 02:19:17,640
Speaker 1: black community, speaking on illness is like taboo, right, because

2210
02:19:17,720 --> 02:19:22,480
Speaker 1: we had we had to be strong, especially mental illness, right.

2211
02:19:23,320 --> 02:19:25,680
Speaker 1: And I spoke on that the other day. But that's

2212
02:19:25,720 --> 02:19:28,720
Speaker 1: a good question. While I was in prison, I was

2213
02:19:28,879 --> 02:19:32,560
Speaker 1: diagnosed with Graves disease in twenty fourteen. Can you explain

2214
02:19:32,600 --> 02:19:36,280
Speaker 1: what it is for people? Graves disease is the autoimmune disease.

2215
02:19:36,680 --> 02:19:40,959
Speaker 1: It affects your particular pituary glands. And I said, surely

2216
02:19:40,959 --> 02:19:47,080
Speaker 1: because I'm drunk. But I would say this though, Jamaicans,

2217
02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:49,480
Speaker 1: you know this statement time drunk? What time? The fool?

2218
02:19:50,440 --> 02:19:55,199
Speaker 1: So Grave disease. It's an autoimmune FIRAID disease that affects

2219
02:19:55,280 --> 02:19:59,640
Speaker 1: your it. It makes you sweat a lot, it makes

2220
02:19:59,720 --> 02:20:04,320
Speaker 1: you your heart palp delicate, it makes your eyes swollen.

2221
02:20:04,760 --> 02:20:07,080
Speaker 1: That's why I keep wearing my shape. Well, I used

2222
02:20:07,080 --> 02:20:10,240
Speaker 1: to wear my shades because I learned from boundary kills.

2223
02:20:12,840 --> 02:20:15,800
Speaker 1: But it's very dangerous. Remember I was in prison, I

2224
02:20:15,920 --> 02:20:20,600
Speaker 1: was battling Graves disease. I was I had to balance

2225
02:20:20,720 --> 02:20:23,960
Speaker 1: my career. I had to keep my family in check,

2226
02:20:24,440 --> 02:20:28,160
Speaker 1: I had to keep my relationship in check. I had

2227
02:20:28,200 --> 02:20:32,680
Speaker 1: to be producing music. So anyone that has Graves disease,

2228
02:20:33,040 --> 02:20:36,560
Speaker 1: I think Missy Elliott's had it too, Okay, oh yeah, yeah,

2229
02:20:37,640 --> 02:20:40,680
Speaker 1: we're human, bro, And a lot of people think because

2230
02:20:40,680 --> 02:20:45,480
Speaker 1: you are artists, wo are superhuman, which we are, but

2231
02:20:46,360 --> 02:20:50,280
Speaker 1: we still get affected. So I just want people to

2232
02:20:50,400 --> 02:20:53,440
Speaker 1: know that whatever illness you have, but it's Graves disease,

2233
02:20:53,520 --> 02:20:57,560
Speaker 1: or it's cancer with it's HIV, whatever, don't be afraid

2234
02:20:57,600 --> 02:21:00,320
Speaker 1: to embrace it and live your life because you only

2235
02:21:00,360 --> 02:21:04,560
Speaker 1: have one. I think Earth gott Et passed away Earth before.

2236
02:21:04,640 --> 02:21:08,520
Speaker 1: That's young bro. Yeah, and this is sort of the millennials,

2237
02:21:08,640 --> 02:21:13,440
Speaker 1: the gen Z. When I was like fourteen fifteen, back

2238
02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:16,520
Speaker 1: in the day, I thought that fifty years old was old,

2239
02:21:16,720 --> 02:21:19,000
Speaker 1: right Bro, I'm forty nine. I feel as young at

2240
02:21:19,160 --> 02:21:23,200
Speaker 1: forty nine years Well, I feel as young as ever, right. Yeah.

2241
02:21:23,760 --> 02:21:26,080
Speaker 1: All you need to do is take care of yourself,

2242
02:21:26,920 --> 02:21:32,320
Speaker 1: eat properly, drink plenty water, have sex a lot, then

2243
02:21:32,360 --> 02:21:37,040
Speaker 1: you'll be I it is what it is. But yeah,

2244
02:21:37,440 --> 02:21:43,240
Speaker 1: but like I said, man having an illness shouldn't be taboo.

2245
02:21:43,680 --> 02:21:48,199
Speaker 1: Those were humans we live, we die. So if you're sick,

2246
02:21:48,720 --> 02:21:51,920
Speaker 1: whether it's a mental problem, talk to someone, right. If

2247
02:21:51,959 --> 02:21:55,320
Speaker 1: I did a video the other day about mental health,

2248
02:21:55,920 --> 02:21:58,760
Speaker 1: that's huge, man, Yeah, because a lot of us, especially

2249
02:21:58,879 --> 02:22:02,640
Speaker 1: the ones that joy to people, are the ones that's

2250
02:22:02,680 --> 02:22:07,440
Speaker 1: suffering the most. Because I'm looking at Norriy. You bring

2251
02:22:07,600 --> 02:22:10,480
Speaker 1: joy to me because I grew up listening to you.

2252
02:22:10,640 --> 02:22:13,160
Speaker 1: Even though you're not older than me, but you get

2253
02:22:14,200 --> 02:22:17,320
Speaker 1: you play an important role in a specific part of

2254
02:22:17,400 --> 02:22:17,920
Speaker 1: my life.

2255
02:22:18,959 --> 02:22:21,800
Speaker 4: You understand does not.

2256
02:22:24,959 --> 02:22:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but we're still human, right, vulnerable and if

2257
02:22:31,080 --> 02:22:35,080
Speaker 1: you if you're vulnerable, don't be afraid to speak to

2258
02:22:35,200 --> 02:22:38,119
Speaker 1: people because that's a lot. That's one of the problems

2259
02:22:38,160 --> 02:22:42,640
Speaker 1: with the African American and the Africa Caribbean community because

2260
02:22:42,680 --> 02:22:44,720
Speaker 1: it's the move. Yeah, we feel like we've got to

2261
02:22:44,760 --> 02:22:47,760
Speaker 1: be shot all the time. No, you can be vulnerable.

2262
02:22:48,560 --> 02:22:51,120
Speaker 1: You can talk to your mother, you can talk to

2263
02:22:51,240 --> 02:22:54,080
Speaker 1: your girlfriend. But then then why do you love her? Bro?

2264
02:22:55,080 --> 02:22:57,720
Speaker 1: Why do you love her and spend money on her

2265
02:22:58,080 --> 02:23:00,800
Speaker 1: and put her in your fucking house? But you're afraid

2266
02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:01,800
Speaker 1: to talk to your woman?

2267
02:23:01,920 --> 02:23:02,040
Speaker 20: Bro?

2268
02:23:03,320 --> 02:23:05,360
Speaker 1: It's real, you know what I mean? Taking a shot

2269
02:23:05,440 --> 02:23:08,640
Speaker 1: to that, Yeah, bro, ship listens.

2270
02:23:10,280 --> 02:23:10,720
Speaker 19: But yeah.

2271
02:23:11,480 --> 02:23:20,520
Speaker 1: Oh oh the shot empresses here. Yes, that's your new nickname. Brohut,

2272
02:23:21,120 --> 02:23:24,320
Speaker 1: that's real. Like I said, I sing my truth. That's

2273
02:23:24,320 --> 02:23:28,160
Speaker 1: why I mentioned even graves disease in my song because,

2274
02:23:28,280 --> 02:23:34,480
Speaker 1: like I said, bid it inflames your body. That's why

2275
02:23:34,560 --> 02:23:37,520
Speaker 1: when I came out, you don't have that inflammation in

2276
02:23:37,640 --> 02:23:43,280
Speaker 1: my face, my stomach. But Bro, we're human beings. I

2277
02:23:43,400 --> 02:23:45,960
Speaker 1: have no shame in my game. Man, Like I speak

2278
02:23:46,000 --> 02:23:48,280
Speaker 1: my truth, it is what it is. Black people and

2279
02:23:48,400 --> 02:23:52,800
Speaker 1: black people take fucking certain illnesses as taboo. We're afraid

2280
02:23:52,879 --> 02:23:56,240
Speaker 1: to talk about it because we were raised to be talking.

2281
02:23:56,720 --> 02:23:59,480
Speaker 1: Oh you're a strong black woman. Why can't you be

2282
02:23:59,560 --> 02:24:02,320
Speaker 1: a femine in black women and talk to your man?

2283
02:24:02,920 --> 02:24:07,280
Speaker 1: M hmm, talk to your friend? Why you have to

2284
02:24:07,360 --> 02:24:09,680
Speaker 1: be a g like all the time, I can't talk

2285
02:24:09,720 --> 02:24:14,480
Speaker 1: to FN, a black FN. My dick isn't working properly.

2286
02:24:14,480 --> 02:24:24,119
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no, no, this is serious,

2287
02:24:24,959 --> 02:24:27,920
Speaker 1: this is serious. I'm not twenty nine, I'm forty nine.

2288
02:24:28,680 --> 02:24:30,560
Speaker 1: Why can't I come to you, feel my Brison? Why

2289
02:24:30,640 --> 02:24:32,440
Speaker 1: trying I come to you? Like, Bro, I'm having problems

2290
02:24:32,440 --> 02:24:38,360
Speaker 1: with my wife because we have issues surrounding sex. I

2291
02:24:38,440 --> 02:24:43,640
Speaker 1: can only pop off once per night. Why can't I

2292
02:24:43,720 --> 02:24:46,680
Speaker 1: talk to your ownership? And and you made me feel

2293
02:24:46,760 --> 02:24:50,320
Speaker 1: comfortable talking about it's just what AAA is. Triple A

2294
02:24:50,480 --> 02:24:53,760
Speaker 1: is right, Hi, I'm vibe scar Tel, I'm an alcoholic

2295
02:24:54,000 --> 02:24:58,959
Speaker 1: or I'm vibe scar Tell, I'm a whatever. Once black

2296
02:24:59,040 --> 02:25:03,120
Speaker 1: people get expec us as black people based on our

2297
02:25:03,320 --> 02:25:06,640
Speaker 1: historical trauma, we're supposed to be able to speak to

2298
02:25:06,720 --> 02:25:11,920
Speaker 1: one another. Bro, Come on, man, it's we only leave once. Bro.

2299
02:25:12,400 --> 02:25:16,120
Speaker 1: Everybody is dead. Yeah, yeah, that's a piece of he's

2300
02:25:16,160 --> 02:25:21,000
Speaker 1: not broke, he's rich, but he's dead. Michael Jackson is dead.

2301
02:25:21,120 --> 02:25:25,000
Speaker 1: You can't take the weakness yet. We we as black people,

2302
02:25:25,080 --> 02:25:28,000
Speaker 1: we need to be able to speak to each other,

2303
02:25:28,520 --> 02:25:31,520
Speaker 1: if you're right, And I learned this while in prison,

2304
02:25:31,800 --> 02:25:34,720
Speaker 1: because anyone in Jamaica can tell you. Before in prison,

2305
02:25:34,879 --> 02:25:40,320
Speaker 1: I was a fucking devil. But growth matulready taught me

2306
02:25:40,360 --> 02:25:43,720
Speaker 1: a lot of things. We need each other. That's why

2307
02:25:43,800 --> 02:25:48,039
Speaker 1: they make these groups and these a A and group

2308
02:25:48,160 --> 02:25:51,400
Speaker 1: therapy is good because you're going through something that I'm

2309
02:25:51,480 --> 02:25:54,720
Speaker 1: going through. So you have questions and I have questions.

2310
02:25:55,040 --> 02:25:57,959
Speaker 1: Maybe you have the answer for some questions. Oh why

2311
02:25:58,040 --> 02:26:01,640
Speaker 1: did she cheat on me? I did everything right, you

2312
02:26:01,760 --> 02:26:05,400
Speaker 1: can maybe impart some knowledge onto why because you've been

2313
02:26:05,480 --> 02:26:08,640
Speaker 1: there before me, right, so you figured it out before.

2314
02:26:10,400 --> 02:26:13,840
Speaker 1: It's bro, we living man one hundred years some now

2315
02:26:13,920 --> 02:26:17,160
Speaker 1: we're gone, you know what I mean. That's that's the

2316
02:26:17,280 --> 02:26:20,640
Speaker 1: mindset I have now. No ready, hold woman before you

2317
02:26:20,720 --> 02:26:27,320
Speaker 1: get to that. Yeah, man, that's drink oh ship, that's

2318
02:26:27,360 --> 02:26:28,600
Speaker 1: the mindset I have now.

2319
02:26:28,680 --> 02:26:37,560
Speaker 15: Bro respects Yeah, man, yeah, it's not that.

2320
02:26:37,800 --> 02:26:43,640
Speaker 1: What's look I hooked them up. Man. What what was

2321
02:26:43,680 --> 02:26:46,600
Speaker 1: the feeling when they said you live in the jail, man,

2322
02:26:47,440 --> 02:26:52,720
Speaker 1: how was that feeling getting? I'm from the ghetto, so

2323
02:26:52,920 --> 02:26:55,920
Speaker 1: you can't hide me up. So when the lawyer said

2324
02:26:55,959 --> 02:26:58,600
Speaker 1: to me you're free, I was in prison. I was

2325
02:26:58,840 --> 02:27:02,840
Speaker 1: in my cell talking on myself. And when no, seriously

2326
02:27:03,280 --> 02:27:09,560
Speaker 1: and when Alexandra labich Is, I said, right hand, she

2327
02:27:09,720 --> 02:27:12,440
Speaker 1: said to me, I'm free, but I've been in prison

2328
02:27:12,640 --> 02:27:16,080
Speaker 1: thirteen years. I didn't want to hear from you, with

2329
02:27:16,240 --> 02:27:19,480
Speaker 1: all due respect, I wanted to hear from eye sights. Yeah,

2330
02:27:19,600 --> 02:27:23,000
Speaker 1: because he's the one that I'm paying, right. And when

2331
02:27:23,040 --> 02:27:25,880
Speaker 1: he called me and said I was free, bro, man,

2332
02:27:26,760 --> 02:27:31,680
Speaker 1: not on the front tears, Bro, I fucking cried, Oh

2333
02:27:31,879 --> 02:27:39,000
Speaker 1: fuck you if you think that's bitch. I'm gonna answer what, bro, No,

2334
02:27:39,200 --> 02:27:42,000
Speaker 1: you can't show I'm tough enough. Man, That's right.

2335
02:27:42,120 --> 02:27:44,400
Speaker 4: Anyone that knows me and Jamaica knows that I'm not

2336
02:27:44,520 --> 02:27:44,959
Speaker 4: no fool.

2337
02:27:45,120 --> 02:27:49,240
Speaker 1: That's what I'm in because you know, look, you know,

2338
02:27:49,440 --> 02:27:54,400
Speaker 1: I tried to play it off so cute, yo, lory.

2339
02:27:54,800 --> 02:28:04,440
Speaker 1: I tried to play it off, but hes man, because

2340
02:28:04,520 --> 02:28:07,200
Speaker 1: think about it. I couldn't cry while I was in prison.

2341
02:28:08,280 --> 02:28:11,080
Speaker 1: I had to take care of my family, by parents,

2342
02:28:11,200 --> 02:28:14,720
Speaker 1: my children, a lot of people around me, plus the

2343
02:28:14,800 --> 02:28:17,840
Speaker 1: guys that I was charged with, So I had no

2344
02:28:18,000 --> 02:28:20,680
Speaker 1: time to be weak because all of them was coming

2345
02:28:20,720 --> 02:28:25,720
Speaker 1: to me. Oh Jesus Chris, when are you coming out? Yeah?

2346
02:28:25,720 --> 02:28:27,920
Speaker 1: What I mean? So I had to be shown for everyone.

2347
02:28:31,120 --> 02:28:33,480
Speaker 1: There is even a meme in Jamaica where I say

2348
02:28:33,640 --> 02:28:39,320
Speaker 1: as TJ because when he used to call me like, well,

2349
02:28:39,400 --> 02:28:46,000
Speaker 1: think about this, I'm in prison, yeah, sending money to

2350
02:28:46,200 --> 02:28:49,600
Speaker 1: my back, to Western Union, to people in America, to

2351
02:28:49,720 --> 02:28:53,520
Speaker 1: people in England. Look, that's my responsibility and I had

2352
02:28:53,560 --> 02:28:56,560
Speaker 1: to do it. People were dying around me. We were

2353
02:28:56,640 --> 02:29:01,440
Speaker 1: fucking in prison, losing money money, but yeah, man, like

2354
02:29:01,680 --> 02:29:05,320
Speaker 1: I have, I was fighting for my freedom, for my life,

2355
02:29:05,920 --> 02:29:10,760
Speaker 1: for my health, right to keep my family, to keep

2356
02:29:10,800 --> 02:29:14,520
Speaker 1: my woman from giving away the pussy. That's a serious no, bro,

2357
02:29:16,240 --> 02:29:19,920
Speaker 1: that's serious man. She's actually moved on. No, I don't know. Yeah,

2358
02:29:19,920 --> 02:29:23,000
Speaker 1: I moved on. Take care of her, Okay, I say,

2359
02:29:23,120 --> 02:29:27,400
Speaker 1: take care of all my baby I'm a Jamaican. You're

2360
02:29:27,480 --> 02:29:31,600
Speaker 1: either a fucking asshole or you're a good person. There's

2361
02:29:31,640 --> 02:29:34,520
Speaker 1: no in the middle. Listen, you're either a fucking pussy

2362
02:29:34,959 --> 02:29:38,400
Speaker 1: or you're a real one. That's what Jamaica vibes vibes

2363
02:29:38,520 --> 02:29:43,000
Speaker 1: on some New York ship. How how does Sadam feel

2364
02:29:43,040 --> 02:29:46,000
Speaker 1: about you taking care of all the baby moms? Well,

2365
02:29:46,160 --> 02:29:50,640
Speaker 1: initially she was not cool, but when I explained it

2366
02:29:50,720 --> 02:29:55,760
Speaker 1: to her and she saw the predicament my family was

2367
02:29:55,920 --> 02:29:59,440
Speaker 1: because remember, you know, I'm the breadwinner. I made the million.

2368
02:30:00,120 --> 02:30:04,840
Speaker 1: We're talking about us now, I made the millions. Why

2369
02:30:04,920 --> 02:30:10,560
Speaker 1: would I want to see my baby mam suffer? Even

2370
02:30:10,640 --> 02:30:13,560
Speaker 1: though when I was in prison going through the worst

2371
02:30:13,600 --> 02:30:18,640
Speaker 1: time of my life, she let me do. But it's

2372
02:30:18,760 --> 02:30:22,200
Speaker 1: human nature. If you don't believe in forgiveness, you're a

2373
02:30:22,440 --> 02:30:26,119
Speaker 1: fucking bro. You shouldn't need to be alive. Bro. Wow,

2374
02:30:27,440 --> 02:30:32,080
Speaker 1: we made mistakes, Bro, Okay, you all right, you believe

2375
02:30:32,120 --> 02:30:34,400
Speaker 1: in forgiveness, So why why you didn't just stay with

2376
02:30:34,520 --> 02:30:38,400
Speaker 1: her then? Because I'm a man first, and I told

2377
02:30:38,440 --> 02:30:41,640
Speaker 1: her I was there with you. I'm like, I'm coming out,

2378
02:30:42,040 --> 02:30:45,080
Speaker 1: coming out. I lost my trial. She was there, I'm

2379
02:30:45,200 --> 02:30:49,000
Speaker 1: coming out. I lost my Jamaican appeal. She was there.

2380
02:30:49,040 --> 02:30:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm coming out. But before the British appeal could happen,

2381
02:30:53,840 --> 02:30:56,720
Speaker 1: she just gave it. And I can't blame her for that.

2382
02:30:57,480 --> 02:31:00,240
Speaker 1: If she was in prison, I would be fucking which

2383
02:31:00,360 --> 02:31:05,280
Speaker 1: is the first day she had arrested, right, So how

2384
02:31:05,360 --> 02:31:09,240
Speaker 1: can I hate her? Think about this? Man, Think about it,

2385
02:31:09,560 --> 02:31:15,640
Speaker 1: bro Think about this. She had got arrested on the

2386
02:31:15,760 --> 02:31:20,160
Speaker 1: first of January after I brought her fucking things to

2387
02:31:20,840 --> 02:31:28,960
Speaker 1: the first So we got to keep it real. And

2388
02:31:29,160 --> 02:31:31,320
Speaker 1: that's what the problem with a lot of us as

2389
02:31:31,400 --> 02:31:34,160
Speaker 1: black people are. Egos are high, and I get it.

2390
02:31:34,600 --> 02:31:37,080
Speaker 1: We've been through a lot, so we need to prove.

2391
02:31:38,120 --> 02:31:41,440
Speaker 1: You know this, Frank, fucking Tom don't need to prove shape,

2392
02:31:41,920 --> 02:31:46,280
Speaker 1: but Jai Kwan and fucking Omar, I need to prove shit,

2393
02:31:47,480 --> 02:31:51,000
Speaker 1: right because that's how we were raised. We need to prove.

2394
02:31:51,400 --> 02:31:57,320
Speaker 1: I don't need to prove nothing. She gave me three

2395
02:31:57,440 --> 02:32:00,800
Speaker 1: sons bro, so I couldn't violate her. But what Sitdem

2396
02:32:00,920 --> 02:32:04,600
Speaker 1: brought to me was peace right. She made me calm.

2397
02:32:05,480 --> 02:32:10,080
Speaker 1: She made me not feel the need the fucking oh

2398
02:32:11,600 --> 02:32:13,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. She made me That's the

2399
02:32:13,800 --> 02:32:16,760
Speaker 1: best thing I met her. Twenty fifteen, July twenty fifth,

2400
02:32:16,840 --> 02:32:21,720
Speaker 1: I'll never forget. And that time I'm saying before that,

2401
02:32:21,879 --> 02:32:23,800
Speaker 1: me and my baby mama was going through a lot.

2402
02:32:24,280 --> 02:32:27,240
Speaker 1: I did an album for short It's literally called to

2403
02:32:27,400 --> 02:32:33,519
Speaker 1: Tunisia because her government is Tannisia. The album is to Tunisia,

2404
02:32:33,840 --> 02:32:36,760
Speaker 1: one of the biggest albums in the Caribbean. Any person

2405
02:32:36,840 --> 02:32:39,320
Speaker 1: from the Caribbean can tell you about that album. Just

2406
02:32:39,480 --> 02:32:42,960
Speaker 1: fucking going there for right now. The cart album calls

2407
02:32:43,440 --> 02:32:50,680
Speaker 1: to Tunisia. Yeah. In lover she nearly madam. I love

2408
02:32:50,959 --> 02:32:56,200
Speaker 1: even now. But Sidem was there. That's why when you

2409
02:32:56,320 --> 02:32:59,199
Speaker 1: asked me the question about loyalty was easy to answer.

2410
02:32:59,320 --> 02:33:04,400
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that Shorty was disloyal. She was just human, right,

2411
02:33:06,320 --> 02:33:11,440
Speaker 1: she was just human. Ten years, eleven years, he's not

2412
02:33:11,600 --> 02:33:14,039
Speaker 1: coming out, but I'm going to be there for her

2413
02:33:14,120 --> 02:33:18,080
Speaker 1: because she always represented I could call her any hours,

2414
02:33:18,680 --> 02:33:21,440
Speaker 1: three am in the morning, shorty, wake up, take this

2415
02:33:21,640 --> 02:33:28,680
Speaker 1: money here, and she would go, come on, man, Bro,

2416
02:33:28,920 --> 02:33:31,200
Speaker 1: At what point we're going to be man, and be like, Bro,

2417
02:33:31,760 --> 02:33:34,040
Speaker 1: you fucked up? Because she didn't send me to prison.

2418
02:33:35,240 --> 02:33:39,879
Speaker 1: That was me. She didn't send me to prison. Bro.

2419
02:33:40,520 --> 02:33:48,520
Speaker 1: She was calling me come home. We need to fuck her.

2420
02:33:50,480 --> 02:33:56,600
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. So she didn't send me.

2421
02:33:56,879 --> 02:34:01,960
Speaker 1: She never called nobody or allies is meeting me? Fuck him? No,

2422
02:34:02,120 --> 02:34:05,560
Speaker 1: I went on my own. So what am I gonna do?

2423
02:34:05,720 --> 02:34:10,680
Speaker 1: Broh And and this is the thing too in Jamaica,

2424
02:34:10,720 --> 02:34:13,480
Speaker 1: a lot of times, like a lot of men in prison,

2425
02:34:14,840 --> 02:34:17,520
Speaker 1: the woman is she don on them. They just send

2426
02:34:17,640 --> 02:34:22,160
Speaker 1: someone to kill her. Oh, and to kill the man. Yeah,

2427
02:34:22,840 --> 02:34:25,360
Speaker 1: it's just it's a really in Jamaica. I'm not even

2428
02:34:25,440 --> 02:34:31,280
Speaker 1: making that up because Jamaica rough. Why would I want

2429
02:34:31,320 --> 02:34:35,200
Speaker 1: to hurt my my children's mother. She made me know

2430
02:34:35,360 --> 02:34:37,800
Speaker 1: that my dick was working because she gave him my

2431
02:34:38,040 --> 02:34:43,920
Speaker 1: first children. Yeah, and even a lot of times even

2432
02:34:44,000 --> 02:34:46,360
Speaker 1: see them, it's like, I think you still love her.

2433
02:34:46,720 --> 02:34:50,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, I love her, but I adore you different,

2434
02:34:51,600 --> 02:34:56,280
Speaker 1: different I do you can have that's real. She made

2435
02:34:56,320 --> 02:34:58,760
Speaker 1: me know that I was a man and I could

2436
02:34:58,800 --> 02:35:03,800
Speaker 1: have get. So I love her and I understand what

2437
02:35:03,920 --> 02:35:07,039
Speaker 1: she went through. Bro. Even people that loved me gave

2438
02:35:07,160 --> 02:35:11,920
Speaker 1: up about in prison thirteen years. Bro, that's your family.

2439
02:35:12,000 --> 02:35:16,760
Speaker 1: You got kidds, but you got thirty three years. Yes,

2440
02:35:17,080 --> 02:35:19,879
Speaker 1: she's like that's life. That's like thirty three years. That's

2441
02:35:19,959 --> 02:35:22,199
Speaker 1: life to everyone else. And maybe you don't get out if.

2442
02:35:22,120 --> 02:35:24,600
Speaker 2: Something goes wrong in prison, you might not get that's

2443
02:35:24,680 --> 02:35:25,280
Speaker 2: my problem.

2444
02:35:25,360 --> 02:35:36,720
Speaker 19: And she needs the doggy style thing. Human nature, human nature.

2445
02:35:37,240 --> 02:35:41,440
Speaker 1: That's human nature. So I can I could not be angry.

2446
02:35:42,800 --> 02:35:46,959
Speaker 1: I understand. I'm grown. I'm grown. I got a rested

2447
02:35:47,040 --> 02:35:51,200
Speaker 1: when I was thirty five, so over the and I

2448
02:35:51,640 --> 02:35:54,959
Speaker 1: learned to appreciate God more and be more spiritual. That's

2449
02:35:54,959 --> 02:35:58,520
Speaker 1: all you see on my forehead. I have loved God. Wow.

2450
02:35:58,879 --> 02:36:01,400
Speaker 1: If you look here, I don't know if you can

2451
02:36:01,480 --> 02:36:03,960
Speaker 1: see it. You see devil Devil that was me back

2452
02:36:04,000 --> 02:36:07,320
Speaker 1: in the day. That's what that's my that was my nickname.

2453
02:36:07,440 --> 02:36:11,920
Speaker 1: Look you see did you feel that you really embodied that? Bro?

2454
02:36:12,040 --> 02:36:15,640
Speaker 1: I was crazy. That's why I got so much trouble.

2455
02:36:18,560 --> 02:36:23,080
Speaker 1: I was fucking wilding out two three a million point zero.

2456
02:36:23,440 --> 02:36:25,840
Speaker 1: So you know, Jamaica is no joke. You don't. You

2457
02:36:25,959 --> 02:36:28,240
Speaker 1: can't come on and say on the track you're a

2458
02:36:28,320 --> 02:36:31,680
Speaker 1: gangster and you're not. You gotta be back in those days,

2459
02:36:32,959 --> 02:36:35,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I like that girl who

2460
02:36:35,200 --> 02:36:45,520
Speaker 1: is you knows what's up. But that's what I'm saying. Like,

2461
02:36:47,240 --> 02:36:49,920
Speaker 1: that's why I never stopped saying God is the greatest.

2462
02:36:51,760 --> 02:36:53,600
Speaker 1: God saved me. No one could save me. I was

2463
02:36:53,680 --> 02:36:57,360
Speaker 1: in prison GP and Jamaica tower Ship. That's a number.

2464
02:36:57,440 --> 02:37:01,520
Speaker 1: In prison. You see guys hang themselves. You see guys

2465
02:37:01,600 --> 02:37:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, steal like that steel thing. You see guys

2466
02:37:04,760 --> 02:37:07,640
Speaker 1: sharp that steel and just push it to the niggas

2467
02:37:08,600 --> 02:37:15,760
Speaker 1: you're dead. Damn that does That doesn't news. That's all

2468
02:37:15,879 --> 02:37:18,720
Speaker 1: Jamaican prisons are. Because I know Americans say they have

2469
02:37:18,800 --> 02:37:24,080
Speaker 1: the toughest prisons. Nigga, you don't, We have the toughest prisons.

2470
02:37:24,959 --> 02:37:31,200
Speaker 1: People die every day. Well, God said bro, because I

2471
02:37:31,320 --> 02:37:33,320
Speaker 1: take care of a lot of people. Because I learned

2472
02:37:33,360 --> 02:37:38,160
Speaker 1: from Bounty Killer, so I pay forward and I prayed.

2473
02:37:38,200 --> 02:37:40,280
Speaker 1: I was like at one point I didn't even pray

2474
02:37:40,400 --> 02:37:48,280
Speaker 1: for TJ. You couldn't tell me nothing about God. I

2475
02:37:48,440 --> 02:37:51,520
Speaker 1: was God. That's how Big Guy was in Germany. I

2476
02:37:51,720 --> 02:37:56,640
Speaker 1: was God. God los like nigga, you're not won't sit

2477
02:37:56,760 --> 02:38:03,160
Speaker 1: down in this fucking dungeon. Wow. Then he gave me

2478
02:38:03,320 --> 02:38:10,240
Speaker 1: that epiphany. Bro Chill, I gave you the blessing given them.

2479
02:38:10,320 --> 02:38:13,880
Speaker 1: There's that I was helping a lot of people like Popcorn, comingly, gods,

2480
02:38:13,879 --> 02:38:21,920
Speaker 1: a slim, etcetera, my parents, Russian, not nice, Jordan, fucking birch, everybody,

2481
02:38:22,040 --> 02:38:24,640
Speaker 1: and God was like, Bro, you need to slow down.

2482
02:38:24,680 --> 02:38:27,160
Speaker 1: If I didn't, that's why I told him no regrets,

2483
02:38:27,520 --> 02:38:30,040
Speaker 1: because if I didn't go to prison, I know I

2484
02:38:30,040 --> 02:38:34,640
Speaker 1: would have been dead. You know what I mean. I

2485
02:38:34,800 --> 02:38:37,080
Speaker 1: got a second chance. I got the second chance, and

2486
02:38:37,440 --> 02:38:44,280
Speaker 1: I won't fuck I'm not How the fuck do I

2487
02:38:44,400 --> 02:38:47,600
Speaker 1: fuck up? Turkey years in prison? Come out? Get my

2488
02:38:47,800 --> 02:38:51,440
Speaker 1: US visa, got my European visa, get my British visa,

2489
02:38:51,800 --> 02:39:01,680
Speaker 1: making these millions us motherfuckert bro and even then, and

2490
02:39:01,879 --> 02:39:04,960
Speaker 1: why why I think I got a second chance, Because

2491
02:39:05,000 --> 02:39:07,760
Speaker 1: even when I was crazy, I still had that love

2492
02:39:08,720 --> 02:39:11,879
Speaker 1: and that respectful people. Because if you good, be good.

2493
02:39:12,200 --> 02:39:15,000
Speaker 1: If you're a gangster, we're not good because maybe you

2494
02:39:15,080 --> 02:39:17,560
Speaker 1: want to hurt me and I'm not going to give

2495
02:39:17,560 --> 02:39:20,800
Speaker 1: you that right, you know what I mean? Yes, So

2496
02:39:21,440 --> 02:39:24,600
Speaker 1: that's why mindset since day one. So I have no

2497
02:39:24,800 --> 02:39:28,400
Speaker 1: problem giving you your props because you can stop me,

2498
02:39:28,600 --> 02:39:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't want to stop you. Get it.

2499
02:39:33,440 --> 02:39:36,360
Speaker 1: You can stop me, and I don't want to stop you.

2500
02:39:36,800 --> 02:39:39,760
Speaker 1: Because we can both be rich. We can both have

2501
02:39:40,080 --> 02:39:42,040
Speaker 1: a lot of money for every yeah, yeah exactly, we

2502
02:39:42,120 --> 02:39:45,080
Speaker 1: can both drive the rolls roys, and we can both

2503
02:39:45,120 --> 02:39:48,280
Speaker 1: have a million women without even touching one of yours.

2504
02:39:49,080 --> 02:39:53,200
Speaker 1: So that's my mindset since day one, bro, like every

2505
02:39:53,320 --> 02:39:57,040
Speaker 1: man has, Like Bob Marley said, every man, I've all

2506
02:39:57,120 --> 02:40:02,040
Speaker 1: right we decide there. Oh yes, I mean you have

2507
02:40:02,160 --> 02:40:04,920
Speaker 1: your right to decide your destiny. Bro, I can't fuck

2508
02:40:04,959 --> 02:40:08,840
Speaker 1: with yours and you can't fuck with mine. If if

2509
02:40:09,280 --> 02:40:11,760
Speaker 1: it comes a time when that's gonna happen, you go

2510
02:40:11,959 --> 02:40:16,640
Speaker 1: your ways and I go mine, and we're good. You

2511
02:40:17,040 --> 02:40:24,040
Speaker 1: You rish over South Miami, a merchant North Miami. That's it.

2512
02:40:25,400 --> 02:40:28,800
Speaker 1: That's how it goes, man. So I don't. I don't

2513
02:40:29,040 --> 02:40:34,640
Speaker 1: harbor any bad feelings for no human none. I've been

2514
02:40:34,680 --> 02:40:37,720
Speaker 1: through it, man, We've been through the wars, the gangster ship,

2515
02:40:37,840 --> 02:40:40,640
Speaker 1: everything that's forty nine years old. Now, what the fuck

2516
02:40:40,720 --> 02:40:44,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna What can you prove to me? You can't

2517
02:40:44,160 --> 02:40:49,280
Speaker 1: prove nothing to me. I'm from Jamaica, broth Exactly, I'm

2518
02:40:49,320 --> 02:40:53,280
Speaker 1: from Jamaica, and my mind from Jamaican too. Huh. In

2519
02:40:53,400 --> 02:41:00,360
Speaker 1: my mind, I'm from Jamaican too. I'm from you, Tuck

2520
02:41:00,400 --> 02:41:03,880
Speaker 1: get me aut man, I'm telling you, man, big up queens.

2521
02:41:04,080 --> 02:41:04,480
Speaker 1: That's right.

2522
02:41:07,720 --> 02:41:10,200
Speaker 6: Getting back to the music a little bit. Yes, what

2523
02:41:10,480 --> 02:41:13,080
Speaker 6: songs of yours do you think change the trajectory of

2524
02:41:13,160 --> 02:41:13,640
Speaker 6: your career?

2525
02:41:15,200 --> 02:41:19,680
Speaker 1: The first song was question New Millennium two thousand and two,

2526
02:41:20,200 --> 02:41:24,360
Speaker 1: which changed Danceaul because the song was saying, decided a

2527
02:41:24,440 --> 02:41:27,360
Speaker 1: new millennium, different things are going meaning this is the

2528
02:41:27,480 --> 02:41:31,680
Speaker 1: new millennium, different things going on. That's what it says.

2529
02:41:32,440 --> 02:41:38,280
Speaker 1: So that's one. Tech Body show Me on Me, which

2530
02:41:38,400 --> 02:41:41,480
Speaker 1: is my first song on Billboard in New York. Okay,

2531
02:41:42,120 --> 02:41:47,160
Speaker 1: Then tech Body Girl second song, Yeah wait wait wait

2532
02:41:47,200 --> 02:41:49,480
Speaker 1: wait wait, let me and the Acon and the Shava

2533
02:41:49,600 --> 02:41:54,480
Speaker 1: Rans and the Sis No no if you're this but

2534
02:41:54,760 --> 02:42:00,760
Speaker 1: mag money exactly you know what's something? Then Rumping Shop,

2535
02:42:02,280 --> 02:42:06,640
Speaker 1: then Clark like oh what more man? And then Fever

2536
02:42:06,959 --> 02:42:08,960
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen while I was in the While I was

2537
02:42:09,000 --> 02:42:11,960
Speaker 1: in prison, that song was on rotation in ninety seven

2538
02:42:12,480 --> 02:42:14,720
Speaker 1: on fucking par one o five. How did I mean

2539
02:42:14,800 --> 02:42:17,720
Speaker 1: deal Yu in jail, Bro, I'm on the fucking app

2540
02:42:17,760 --> 02:42:21,680
Speaker 1: watching everything. I popping Champagne in prison. I had a

2541
02:42:21,760 --> 02:42:26,200
Speaker 1: fucking bust down roles. I had a fucking damn cham

2542
02:42:26,480 --> 02:42:30,320
Speaker 1: for crazy, Bro. I had my roles in prison, Ship

2543
02:42:30,320 --> 02:42:35,320
Speaker 1: and Pendan anything more. I loves the stream shambling anything. Yeah,

2544
02:42:36,320 --> 02:42:41,200
Speaker 1: but it's still prison, right, Still prison, write no doubt

2545
02:42:41,280 --> 02:42:43,880
Speaker 1: that can't leave when I want. Yeah, of course, still

2546
02:42:43,959 --> 02:42:47,240
Speaker 1: PRIs Here's what it is. But those songs. When I

2547
02:42:47,360 --> 02:42:50,160
Speaker 1: saw Golden Prison, I had my fucking plaque in my

2548
02:42:50,400 --> 02:42:55,800
Speaker 1: cell like roaches crawling on it, and ship roaches was

2549
02:42:55,959 --> 02:43:00,880
Speaker 1: crawling on my fucking bolt black Bro, that's crazy, I'm

2550
02:43:00,959 --> 02:43:04,959
Speaker 1: telling you scene. Yeah, roaches was crawling on my block

2551
02:43:05,000 --> 02:43:09,200
Speaker 1: and I was like your blood clot areo listen, listen,

2552
02:43:09,360 --> 02:43:13,760
Speaker 1: you need to put your movies together. And that's what

2553
02:43:13,840 --> 02:43:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. What is the Netflix general, That's what I'm saying.

2554
02:43:17,720 --> 02:43:20,960
Speaker 1: Grammy fucked up this year. No disrespect to them, but

2555
02:43:21,320 --> 02:43:25,560
Speaker 1: the story. Come on, I'm coming from prison thirteen years,

2556
02:43:25,600 --> 02:43:28,840
Speaker 1: get my feast. I'm engaged. I'm behaving myself. I saw

2557
02:43:28,959 --> 02:43:33,080
Speaker 1: gold The album that I did was nominated What's Done

2558
02:43:33,120 --> 02:43:36,240
Speaker 1: in Prison should Ha took.

2559
02:43:37,959 --> 02:43:39,240
Speaker 4: It's an amazing story.

2560
02:43:39,360 --> 02:43:42,960
Speaker 1: Norm It's beautiful. I love it. And what that means said,

2561
02:43:42,959 --> 02:43:48,040
Speaker 1: I want to piss. Yeah, we got one and we

2562
02:43:48,160 --> 02:43:51,760
Speaker 1: got one over there. Yeah, like I'm in that trajectory.

2563
02:43:52,040 --> 02:44:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but just that you, that's you. You need

2564
02:44:10,400 --> 02:44:13,840
Speaker 1: to like give ours the like Sean pa give me

2565
02:44:13,959 --> 02:44:26,680
Speaker 1: the sem Jamaica for sure, right now, Sean Palm. Yeah yeah, yeah, man,

2566
02:44:26,840 --> 02:44:30,960
Speaker 1: said Sean Paulish from up town. That means for the

2567
02:44:31,040 --> 02:44:35,720
Speaker 1: privileged part privilege because in Jamaica we don't have racism classes.

2568
02:44:37,160 --> 02:44:42,320
Speaker 1: But that's for another interview. Passionate about that because I'm

2569
02:44:42,320 --> 02:44:46,840
Speaker 1: from the ghetto and I live uptown and my kids

2570
02:44:46,920 --> 02:44:51,760
Speaker 1: are born and raised uptown, went to the best schools everything,

2571
02:44:51,840 --> 02:44:56,000
Speaker 1: you know how that yes, yeah, so that's a serious

2572
02:44:56,080 --> 02:45:01,160
Speaker 1: topic in Jamaica to classes, colorism, right, skin bleaching all day.

2573
02:45:01,400 --> 02:45:04,160
Speaker 1: I was just going to say that because I remember

2574
02:45:04,200 --> 02:45:06,440
Speaker 1: when you was rehearsing for your show, because I follow you.

2575
02:45:06,600 --> 02:45:08,960
Speaker 1: So you was talking about we're going to do the

2576
02:45:10,040 --> 02:45:18,400
Speaker 1: the car down and the bats cards, yes, where you

2577
02:45:18,520 --> 02:45:22,400
Speaker 1: use the fucking burn up, the fucking melanim Yes, and

2578
02:45:22,640 --> 02:45:28,040
Speaker 1: like you're trying to kill God? Do you I told

2579
02:45:28,120 --> 02:45:31,520
Speaker 1: I regret nothing, okay, because if you win, you either

2580
02:45:31,600 --> 02:45:34,440
Speaker 1: win or learn when you lose this when you die,

2581
02:45:35,280 --> 02:45:37,600
Speaker 1: and we still don't know where you go when you die,

2582
02:45:37,959 --> 02:45:38,520
Speaker 1: even though I'm.

2583
02:45:38,800 --> 02:45:41,400
Speaker 5: And what those lessons are from, you know, from life,

2584
02:45:41,520 --> 02:45:42,840
Speaker 5: from your negatives, you know what I mean.

2585
02:45:43,080 --> 02:45:46,720
Speaker 1: So I never believe in losses, so I couldn't have regrets.

2586
02:45:47,000 --> 02:45:50,560
Speaker 1: And I've lost people that I love, but I can't regret.

2587
02:45:51,160 --> 02:45:53,720
Speaker 6: The reason why I asked that because cooda black and

2588
02:45:53,959 --> 02:45:56,280
Speaker 6: he had he had a songs in super Grim and

2589
02:45:56,320 --> 02:45:58,680
Speaker 6: he said, you know, I know the perk was fake,

2590
02:45:59,000 --> 02:46:00,760
Speaker 6: but I still ate it. But because I was a

2591
02:46:00,840 --> 02:46:04,320
Speaker 6: gremlin perkose in. Yeah, I know you know what I'm saying.

2592
02:46:04,400 --> 02:46:07,520
Speaker 6: So see how deep that it was. And he regretted

2593
02:46:07,600 --> 02:46:10,080
Speaker 6: that to a degree. The influence of that. No, but

2594
02:46:10,200 --> 02:46:16,080
Speaker 6: I understand that. But think about this, I already drank

2595
02:46:17,440 --> 02:46:21,880
Speaker 6: like four bottles of fucking How can I regret it?

2596
02:46:22,640 --> 02:46:25,160
Speaker 6: I can't change it, right, you can't go back. You

2597
02:46:25,280 --> 02:46:28,080
Speaker 6: can't go back. But the only thing I can do

2598
02:46:28,240 --> 02:46:31,520
Speaker 6: from that is like, don't drink from beautiful women.

2599
02:46:36,600 --> 02:46:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm giving her props. Come on, Yeah, okay, So if

2600
02:46:39,760 --> 02:46:43,400
Speaker 1: I know. I mean, if I went outside, it was

2601
02:46:43,440 --> 02:46:48,680
Speaker 1: like that, don't drink from beautiful l. That was the l.

2602
02:46:48,800 --> 02:46:52,280
Speaker 1: It's not the loss lesson because once you're alive, it's

2603
02:46:52,320 --> 02:46:55,800
Speaker 1: not a loss. It's a lesson. And if it's a lesson,

2604
02:46:57,320 --> 02:47:05,080
Speaker 1: it's a blessing. If it's a lesson, Bro, I was

2605
02:47:05,600 --> 02:47:08,520
Speaker 1: last year. Some times I was in fucking prison. What

2606
02:47:08,680 --> 02:47:12,039
Speaker 1: the fuck are you talking about? I mean for America and.

2607
02:47:12,080 --> 02:47:19,320
Speaker 4: I'm rich, that's right, sure, sure, exactly.

2608
02:47:19,640 --> 02:47:25,600
Speaker 1: Just shout to that ship, no, bro, like I said.

2609
02:47:25,680 --> 02:47:27,640
Speaker 1: Even Massacre said it the other day when I was

2610
02:47:27,720 --> 02:47:33,119
Speaker 1: in prison, and I was so much in my positive

2611
02:47:33,320 --> 02:47:36,879
Speaker 1: energy that I've understood it. You know what Massacre said,

2612
02:47:36,920 --> 02:47:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm bigger Massacre. Its aid interviewing too. He's a big

2613
02:47:40,200 --> 02:47:46,240
Speaker 1: artist in Jamaica. He said, nobody can spoil my day.

2614
02:47:48,959 --> 02:47:52,200
Speaker 1: Why would I give you that energy. I just came

2615
02:47:52,240 --> 02:47:55,680
Speaker 1: out of prison, bro, thirteen years. I watched my children.

2616
02:47:56,160 --> 02:47:59,920
Speaker 1: They come from voice to men and not the groups

2617
02:48:00,040 --> 02:48:05,199
Speaker 1: from sucking the group big them up. Yeah you salute

2618
02:48:05,920 --> 02:48:11,880
Speaker 1: in Boston from boss. Yeah, I'm losing Boston. Where's my

2619
02:48:12,000 --> 02:48:22,040
Speaker 1: shot there for Philly? Yeah? I think hello to being wrong?

2620
02:48:22,400 --> 02:48:25,840
Speaker 1: Then that's why your coffee is much empty. I know

2621
02:48:26,400 --> 02:48:29,840
Speaker 1: we're taking shot. Yeah, we're taking shot. Oh he just

2622
02:48:29,959 --> 02:48:34,720
Speaker 1: a shouting there. I know he's a shot that rose. Yeah,

2623
02:48:34,760 --> 02:48:37,280
Speaker 1: but you can't. You can't. You can't. You know history.

2624
02:48:37,440 --> 02:48:40,160
Speaker 1: Maybe have a bad day, you know your history. That's

2625
02:48:40,200 --> 02:48:44,240
Speaker 1: why I'm so big in music. I'm a shooting. I'm

2626
02:48:44,280 --> 02:48:47,080
Speaker 1: a student of the music. You're a student first, before them,

2627
02:48:47,160 --> 02:48:50,680
Speaker 1: before this guy. Not a student, my little brother right,

2628
02:48:51,040 --> 02:48:53,760
Speaker 1: always say you're I'm a student of hip hop. That's

2629
02:48:53,840 --> 02:48:59,640
Speaker 1: what yester. Listen, Yeah enough, I respect you. Yeah, man,

2630
02:49:00,320 --> 02:49:07,760
Speaker 1: you got it. Don't count you gotta when Yeah, big up,

2631
02:49:07,760 --> 02:49:09,600
Speaker 1: big up. It's the Americans.

2632
02:49:09,640 --> 02:49:10,320
Speaker 4: Let's suit it again.

2633
02:49:10,440 --> 02:49:16,920
Speaker 1: Yes, one of the T shirts. And because he wants

2634
02:49:16,959 --> 02:49:21,680
Speaker 1: a student, cligg up. So I want to ask another question.

2635
02:49:21,760 --> 02:49:23,400
Speaker 1: You brought up massacre. You know, so.

2636
02:49:25,240 --> 02:49:27,200
Speaker 6: As far as dance all right now, who would you

2637
02:49:27,280 --> 02:49:30,560
Speaker 6: think is like the top contenders and also like the

2638
02:49:30,680 --> 02:49:32,840
Speaker 6: defending champions of dance all right now?

2639
02:49:33,480 --> 02:49:38,400
Speaker 1: Well, massacre is one popcorn. And I'm not just saying

2640
02:49:38,480 --> 02:49:44,200
Speaker 1: that because he's my protesting, but I'm also saying that

2641
02:49:44,400 --> 02:49:47,760
Speaker 1: because he's my protest So I learned from the best guy.

2642
02:49:47,879 --> 02:49:52,840
Speaker 1: You went to Harvard nigga, you fucking qualified. So gonsation

2643
02:49:53,080 --> 02:50:01,480
Speaker 1: is the Harvard Dance all so popcorn from then, I

2644
02:50:01,840 --> 02:50:08,560
Speaker 1: like like the younger kids after popcun like Shama and

2645
02:50:09,160 --> 02:50:10,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to get into that in a minute. So

2646
02:50:10,920 --> 02:50:14,640
Speaker 1: you have the Gamer, the Pablo wait g the Chronicler,

2647
02:50:15,320 --> 02:50:20,480
Speaker 1: Skilly Bang, the jump Jeacque Laani, you know what I mean,

2648
02:50:20,520 --> 02:50:23,800
Speaker 1: the four fifty and you know a lot of people

2649
02:50:23,800 --> 02:50:25,880
Speaker 1: are gonna come at me, especially the guards are fans.

2650
02:50:25,920 --> 02:50:30,800
Speaker 1: But he represents for the culture, the alkaline, right, yeah,

2651
02:50:30,879 --> 02:50:36,200
Speaker 1: the squash, squash, squash, not time, you know what I mean.

2652
02:50:37,120 --> 02:50:40,920
Speaker 1: So for me, the kids, I have to respect them

2653
02:50:41,000 --> 02:50:43,640
Speaker 1: because when I was coming up, I got a lot

2654
02:50:43,680 --> 02:50:48,520
Speaker 1: of flat like, oh it does song like dancer like

2655
02:50:48,640 --> 02:50:50,920
Speaker 1: they're trying to say I'm not dancing. I'm sure I'm

2656
02:50:51,000 --> 02:50:55,120
Speaker 1: something else, right, So we always have to represent for

2657
02:50:55,240 --> 02:50:58,040
Speaker 1: the general because I stand on the on the shoulders

2658
02:50:58,080 --> 02:51:03,160
Speaker 1: of giants, right, I stand on Bounty Killer's shoulder, Busha

2659
02:51:03,240 --> 02:51:06,600
Speaker 1: banter being a man, regardless of what you want to

2660
02:51:06,640 --> 02:51:09,800
Speaker 1: say about it. I'm a student, a fucking dance, A

2661
02:51:10,480 --> 02:51:15,640
Speaker 1: dance all is forever, right. We have a rep for

2662
02:51:15,720 --> 02:51:20,039
Speaker 1: the culture. I'm gonna rep for the vulture for the culture.

2663
02:51:20,760 --> 02:51:23,560
Speaker 1: So big Up being a big up Bonty killer who

2664
02:51:23,680 --> 02:51:28,160
Speaker 1: made me rich, Big Up Buscher Banton, biggest inspiration, Ninjaman

2665
02:51:28,959 --> 02:51:33,760
Speaker 1: my first inspiration, super Cat Jeorg the Wheel, big Eyewod

2666
02:51:34,800 --> 02:51:39,560
Speaker 1: Michigan are smiling. Danny English, he passed away the other day,

2667
02:51:40,040 --> 02:51:42,560
Speaker 1: because you know what I mean, gives him the first Please,

2668
02:51:43,360 --> 02:51:46,080
Speaker 1: he's the first person who told my mom that I'm

2669
02:51:46,120 --> 02:51:48,360
Speaker 1: going to be rich. Then she gave me the key

2670
02:51:48,360 --> 02:51:50,560
Speaker 1: because they used to lock me all that night. So

2671
02:51:50,680 --> 02:51:52,640
Speaker 1: when I went to the stage show at night, I

2672
02:51:52,720 --> 02:51:56,439
Speaker 1: could have go in because my mama he ain't bloodclads,

2673
02:51:56,520 --> 02:51:59,480
Speaker 1: you know, and my dad is like your blood clod,

2674
02:52:00,760 --> 02:52:04,320
Speaker 1: which means also. And then my mom when Danny English

2675
02:52:04,320 --> 02:52:12,240
Speaker 1: said to my mom because he got they have a

2676
02:52:12,400 --> 02:52:15,000
Speaker 1: meme with me and him on the internet with everything

2677
02:52:15,080 --> 02:52:19,840
Speaker 1: I want to confirm, I say at teach me at

2678
02:52:19,879 --> 02:52:24,360
Speaker 1: the party, he was the first person to tell my

2679
02:52:24,520 --> 02:52:29,080
Speaker 1: mother that your son is going to be famous and

2680
02:52:29,200 --> 02:52:33,040
Speaker 1: that that made that brought tears in mother's eyes. So

2681
02:52:33,280 --> 02:52:37,560
Speaker 1: and he died the other day, so please give him around.

2682
02:52:40,160 --> 02:52:41,080
Speaker 4: That's the peace.

2683
02:52:43,560 --> 02:52:46,280
Speaker 1: As well, because they rolled together and big up eeg

2684
02:52:46,320 --> 02:52:50,480
Speaker 1: now so bro Dan soul for me is everything, nor

2685
02:52:51,120 --> 02:52:54,080
Speaker 1: that I believe in it. It made a lot of

2686
02:52:54,200 --> 02:52:57,720
Speaker 1: us famous, the more and rich Mova cartail bonte be

2687
02:52:57,840 --> 02:53:01,320
Speaker 1: in a bush like Terry James. Even all the guys

2688
02:53:01,400 --> 02:53:03,280
Speaker 1: you asked me questions about why do you think I

2689
02:53:03,320 --> 02:53:06,560
Speaker 1: had to take the drag spraga because I'm not going

2690
02:53:06,640 --> 02:53:11,320
Speaker 1: to pick because all of them older than me influenced me,

2691
02:53:11,840 --> 02:53:15,520
Speaker 1: and the ones that I gave fame, they inspired me.

2692
02:53:16,480 --> 02:53:26,200
Speaker 1: So I could never teaz. Yeah, Scata, that's Scata and

2693
02:53:26,320 --> 02:53:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to be I don't know if you guys understand.

2694
02:53:29,879 --> 02:53:33,040
Speaker 1: In Jamaica, we did the Freedom Street Concert the thirty

2695
02:53:33,120 --> 02:53:36,720
Speaker 1: one of December, so that went into the first of January,

2696
02:53:37,200 --> 02:53:40,200
Speaker 1: which is the first day of the year. Him get

2697
02:53:40,280 --> 02:53:46,080
Speaker 1: the first sok yamada for the year, and Jamaica, no

2698
02:53:46,760 --> 02:53:48,040
Speaker 1: hold on Jamaica.

2699
02:53:48,520 --> 02:53:51,560
Speaker 4: A sk ya moda is not saying your mother is

2700
02:53:51,640 --> 02:53:52,080
Speaker 4: a war.

2701
02:53:52,600 --> 02:53:57,480
Speaker 1: Go suck your mother and look how deep this is.

2702
02:53:57,920 --> 02:54:02,600
Speaker 1: Sketch my, it's my big bra because Sketta was famous

2703
02:54:02,640 --> 02:54:05,600
Speaker 1: when I was fucking hungry, you know how that was.

2704
02:54:05,680 --> 02:54:10,560
Speaker 1: So he's my big bro. Popcorn is my son. Popcorn

2705
02:54:11,200 --> 02:54:14,560
Speaker 1: gave him the first sock mother for the here so

2706
02:54:14,680 --> 02:54:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm conflicted, right, But I spoke to Scata.

2707
02:54:18,640 --> 02:54:24,119
Speaker 1: He was very mature about it. Popcorn was very remorseful

2708
02:54:24,160 --> 02:54:27,039
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, and everything.

2709
02:54:27,080 --> 02:54:28,840
Speaker 4: But but that's when he became a meme.

2710
02:54:29,200 --> 02:54:31,640
Speaker 6: Was what was in your mind because people haven't this

2711
02:54:31,720 --> 02:54:33,360
Speaker 6: is the first time you're talking about it after that,

2712
02:54:34,840 --> 02:54:36,680
Speaker 6: What was in your mind when he was holding the mic?

2713
02:54:37,000 --> 02:54:40,600
Speaker 1: Well, you saw my face. I was shocked because I

2714
02:54:40,760 --> 02:54:44,480
Speaker 1: never expected Popcorn to say that. It's like, you invite

2715
02:54:44,520 --> 02:54:45,240
Speaker 1: me to a party.

2716
02:54:46,160 --> 02:54:48,480
Speaker 4: Why would say you invite me to a party.

2717
02:54:49,360 --> 02:54:52,440
Speaker 1: But before you invited me to the party, me and

2718
02:54:52,600 --> 02:54:53,840
Speaker 1: bust Rhyme had beef.

2719
02:54:54,680 --> 02:54:57,280
Speaker 4: Right, this is re just creating a scenario.

2720
02:54:58,720 --> 02:55:03,480
Speaker 1: Why would I come to your party and say, bostam

2721
02:55:03,680 --> 02:55:08,360
Speaker 1: sokya mada. This is the biggest this in Jamaica. Yeah, yeah,

2722
02:55:08,680 --> 02:55:12,520
Speaker 1: that means I don't respect you. But this is here's

2723
02:55:12,600 --> 02:55:16,080
Speaker 1: the flip side. You watch that movie with al Pacino

2724
02:55:16,160 --> 02:55:18,959
Speaker 1: and Robert de Niro, Here's the flip side to that coin.

2725
02:55:22,360 --> 02:55:27,520
Speaker 1: Popcorn felt violent because he was coming to represent for

2726
02:55:27,720 --> 02:55:31,640
Speaker 1: the man that made him rich, really rich, because you know,

2727
02:55:31,760 --> 02:55:34,880
Speaker 1: Puppy is in like ve spar tell my father level

2728
02:55:34,959 --> 02:55:39,960
Speaker 1: Like really when we say millions, you mean us, and

2729
02:55:40,200 --> 02:55:42,959
Speaker 1: then we had to be at the gate for two hours.

2730
02:55:44,040 --> 02:55:46,840
Speaker 1: But then I had to explain to him after the show,

2731
02:55:46,959 --> 02:55:52,959
Speaker 1: like Puppy, yeah, I understand. This is Jamaica, the excitement,

2732
02:55:53,360 --> 02:55:57,360
Speaker 1: and everyone wants to prove. So if you're a security

2733
02:55:57,440 --> 02:56:01,280
Speaker 1: guard and f N and and and components coming through,

2734
02:56:02,400 --> 02:56:16,360
Speaker 1: maybe you have a puppy. I'm fucking okay, But what's

2735
02:56:17,080 --> 02:56:21,680
Speaker 1: what's that was? I did that on progress and if

2736
02:56:21,760 --> 02:56:33,640
Speaker 1: I didn't do it, hold on, hold on. This is

2737
02:56:34,200 --> 02:56:37,880
Speaker 1: serious now. So I'm speaking to Puppy and he's like

2738
02:56:38,840 --> 02:56:41,440
Speaker 1: General because you know they all call me General the

2739
02:56:41,560 --> 02:56:46,760
Speaker 1: same way I call the guys before General. That's right, bro,

2740
02:56:47,040 --> 02:56:50,400
Speaker 1: Respect is everything, you know Jamaicans. Of course she it

2741
02:56:50,560 --> 02:56:54,600
Speaker 1: was like General Mefield, vex and Mayfield violated, mister popcorn,

2742
02:56:55,240 --> 02:56:57,680
Speaker 1: you can't come to my show with two hundred people

2743
02:56:58,760 --> 02:57:04,240
Speaker 1: like literally and then be angry when one of the

2744
02:57:04,320 --> 02:57:10,360
Speaker 1: promoters go skata Joe Bangdanovic and Carla big up, Carla.

2745
02:57:10,520 --> 02:57:13,039
Speaker 4: They organized it. I didn't do shit.

2746
02:57:13,400 --> 02:57:15,160
Speaker 1: All they did was call me, Carl, tell you have

2747
02:57:15,240 --> 02:57:18,119
Speaker 1: an interview with Billboards four thirty. Okay, I'll be there.

2748
02:57:18,240 --> 02:57:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm there by four thirty just like when I came

2749
02:57:20,920 --> 02:57:23,600
Speaker 1: to your show, I didn't disrespect I was on time, right,

2750
02:57:24,040 --> 02:57:30,320
Speaker 1: hell yeah, because that's how we do. Thank you for

2751
02:57:30,480 --> 02:57:38,600
Speaker 1: your patience, you know what I mean. Thank you for

2752
02:57:38,720 --> 02:57:44,800
Speaker 1: your patience, sir, because you understand entertainment. Yes, so yeah,

2753
02:57:44,879 --> 02:57:47,240
Speaker 1: So that's why you see me and Scata, me and

2754
02:57:47,360 --> 02:57:49,720
Speaker 1: him all over the place together because he's one of

2755
02:57:49,800 --> 02:57:53,000
Speaker 1: my road managers. Well, TJ is the manager Scatter and

2756
02:57:53,120 --> 02:57:58,720
Speaker 1: Mooney Yeah man, TJ yeah man. So it's TJ, Skata

2757
02:57:58,800 --> 02:58:04,080
Speaker 1: and Mooney here the manager, two world managers. Because I'm

2758
02:58:04,160 --> 02:58:13,200
Speaker 1: though my life is dough and I do those. Yeah.

2759
02:58:13,480 --> 02:58:14,440
Speaker 1: I love what you say.

2760
02:58:14,760 --> 02:58:15,800
Speaker 4: What's my eye?

2761
02:58:16,280 --> 02:58:21,880
Speaker 1: No, my nose? I'm because in Jamaica, when with the

2762
02:58:22,000 --> 02:58:25,120
Speaker 1: mode you said you love you some mode meaning you

2763
02:58:25,200 --> 02:58:29,320
Speaker 1: love to fucking talk or you love to like show out.

2764
02:58:30,240 --> 02:58:33,240
Speaker 1: So but in America the slang is like I'm out.

2765
02:58:34,680 --> 02:58:38,160
Speaker 1: So I merged them together. So what's this under my nose?

2766
02:58:38,600 --> 02:58:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm out? It was in Jamaica number one on YouTube

2767
02:58:43,520 --> 02:58:46,360
Speaker 1: for like three weeks. It's a slang that I turned

2768
02:58:46,400 --> 02:58:49,480
Speaker 1: into a song. So it's crazy here. So you.

2769
02:58:51,520 --> 02:58:54,400
Speaker 9: Know what more.

2770
02:58:59,360 --> 02:59:02,200
Speaker 1: He knows, like I said, is out of the long

2771
02:59:02,240 --> 02:59:05,760
Speaker 1: hand of the New York. It's not Brooklyn, but were

2772
02:59:05,879 --> 02:59:10,000
Speaker 1: tough as fun right like why damn? Yeah, we was talking.

2773
02:59:10,480 --> 02:59:12,960
Speaker 1: Come check we we got Gotti over here. They're gonna

2774
02:59:12,959 --> 02:59:16,959
Speaker 1: stap it. Yeah exactly, we got Gotti. Yeah, so that's

2775
02:59:17,000 --> 02:59:20,040
Speaker 1: what time shot form port more. Yeah, let's go, let's go.

2776
02:59:20,600 --> 02:59:21,360
Speaker 1: Where's my shot?

2777
02:59:21,520 --> 02:59:24,280
Speaker 4: Shot shot shots always live up.

2778
02:59:25,240 --> 02:59:29,400
Speaker 1: Light skin girl in Jamaine. We call her brown and

2779
02:59:29,520 --> 02:59:48,120
Speaker 1: brinin Where was she? Hold on there beat? Yeah, you

2780
02:59:48,240 --> 02:59:56,920
Speaker 1: gotta do jay Z boom ba clop Biggie. Yeah, so

2781
02:59:57,160 --> 03:00:01,800
Speaker 1: this is the jay Z Biggie and a little bee

2782
03:00:02,280 --> 03:00:05,960
Speaker 1: a little bit your prodigy. Yes, hold on, give me

2783
03:00:06,040 --> 03:00:16,440
Speaker 1: a moment to think. Mob d Spragua Bens talking about

2784
03:00:23,840 --> 03:00:31,320
Speaker 1: you know my favorite New York rapper female? It's Cardi

2785
03:00:31,840 --> 03:00:35,720
Speaker 1: card She has to come to your wedding. You know

2786
03:00:35,760 --> 03:00:40,760
Speaker 1: who's I invited her? You know who's my second? And

2787
03:00:40,840 --> 03:00:43,520
Speaker 1: this is going to be crazy if you're not if

2788
03:00:43,520 --> 03:00:46,480
Speaker 1: you don't understand the generation I grew up there, you

2789
03:00:46,560 --> 03:00:50,640
Speaker 1: know it's my favorite female rapper. I know who you're saying. Okay,

2790
03:00:50,879 --> 03:00:58,040
Speaker 1: and yeah look which massive, Yes, I remember I'm not

2791
03:00:58,959 --> 03:01:01,200
Speaker 1: a Biggi fan and as I am a two Pac

2792
03:01:01,240 --> 03:01:04,800
Speaker 1: fun because I remember I said two bars all time rapper,

2793
03:01:05,840 --> 03:01:10,200
Speaker 1: but Lco, Kim and Biggie back Jesus the not torri Us.

2794
03:01:10,400 --> 03:01:14,680
Speaker 1: Just please us with little Fiss, We're just chilling. So

2795
03:01:14,920 --> 03:01:18,080
Speaker 1: so in your wedding you would like Cardi b and

2796
03:01:18,200 --> 03:01:21,320
Speaker 1: Little Kim to come out. No, if Little Kim comes,

2797
03:01:21,800 --> 03:01:25,400
Speaker 1: that's the ice, bro, that's I okay. So Lies, look,

2798
03:01:25,520 --> 03:01:27,200
Speaker 1: you got to recept I know you can do it.

2799
03:01:27,800 --> 03:01:34,080
Speaker 1: What your wedding, you can't get ready to make it happen. Yeah,

2800
03:01:34,920 --> 03:01:40,800
Speaker 1: your legendary. And they say again, Yo, listen, I'm gonna

2801
03:01:40,840 --> 03:01:42,640
Speaker 1: tell you this. I never want to say it because

2802
03:01:43,320 --> 03:01:46,040
Speaker 1: the girls in Jamaica that are fourteen, fifteen and sixteen

2803
03:01:46,080 --> 03:01:50,000
Speaker 1: they love me. But you're gonna make me say it. Okay, Bro,

2804
03:01:50,120 --> 03:01:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm forty nine years old. Yeah, your fucking legend. Okay

2805
03:01:54,720 --> 03:01:58,280
Speaker 1: my eyes? Yes, God, so you can't you I know

2806
03:01:58,440 --> 03:02:13,360
Speaker 1: you can cooking, but I'm sees yeah okay, So yeah,

2807
03:02:13,879 --> 03:02:16,040
Speaker 1: you know I think you know you have turned into

2808
03:02:16,080 --> 03:02:26,840
Speaker 1: an alcoholic A number. I'm no culting it. I'm joking.

2809
03:02:27,400 --> 03:02:32,400
Speaker 1: This is the engagement ring. I'm joking, this is yeah,

2810
03:02:32,440 --> 03:02:39,000
Speaker 1: this is a sim I'm George, you don't know fucking

2811
03:02:39,680 --> 03:02:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, moving on. Yeah, the fucking weasy and not

2812
03:02:47,920 --> 03:02:53,640
Speaker 1: the way the other. Yeah, we can also a little wing.

2813
03:02:54,200 --> 03:02:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me tell you how I know your official gangster.

2814
03:02:58,080 --> 03:03:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know how to laugh. You gotta smile, you

2815
03:03:01,680 --> 03:03:04,320
Speaker 1: know how to have fun. Of course when I see

2816
03:03:04,360 --> 03:03:12,960
Speaker 1: people who don't want to smile quite But you hain't

2817
03:03:13,040 --> 03:03:18,880
Speaker 1: been to nothing nothing. Listen, tell me one thing that

2818
03:03:19,000 --> 03:03:23,880
Speaker 1: you learn being locked up? Being locked up? How to

2819
03:03:23,959 --> 03:03:30,280
Speaker 1: set your hands in your jerkey off? I'm sure I

2820
03:03:30,440 --> 03:03:45,280
Speaker 1: sho okay on how d man or am I leg ship?

2821
03:03:45,560 --> 03:03:54,240
Speaker 1: Allegations again? Allegations ship? Yeah, but ask the question again,

2822
03:03:55,240 --> 03:04:01,520
Speaker 1: you know asking I'm going to see his answer. What

2823
03:04:01,720 --> 03:04:07,000
Speaker 1: have you learned? Yeah, since you've been home from jail,

2824
03:04:07,160 --> 03:04:14,280
Speaker 1: been home from jail. Yeah yeah, don't take time for granted,

2825
03:04:15,040 --> 03:04:18,080
Speaker 1: and don't take it the people you love, don't take

2826
03:04:18,160 --> 03:04:22,600
Speaker 1: them for granted. You can't. And I'll tell you some

2827
03:04:22,920 --> 03:04:29,800
Speaker 1: fn because Jamaica prison is strange. It's like the gangster

2828
03:04:29,959 --> 03:04:35,320
Speaker 1: seen in Jamaica. Five people will die here in Kingston,

2829
03:04:36,520 --> 03:04:39,720
Speaker 1: but when you watch the news, you only hear about

2830
03:04:39,760 --> 03:04:43,400
Speaker 1: the one person that died in Montego Bay or in Osheria.

2831
03:04:45,000 --> 03:04:50,320
Speaker 1: So you got to take life seriously. The people you

2832
03:04:50,480 --> 03:04:52,880
Speaker 1: love got to spend it with them. You know what

2833
03:04:53,000 --> 03:04:57,360
Speaker 1: my biggest shraget is and my first son. I had

2834
03:04:57,440 --> 03:05:00,880
Speaker 1: him to the studio. You know when you get that song.

2835
03:05:01,400 --> 03:05:03,800
Speaker 1: Your first child is a son. So I'm with him

2836
03:05:03,840 --> 03:05:07,480
Speaker 1: in the studio. I'm changing is changing his diapers. I'm

2837
03:05:07,520 --> 03:05:11,199
Speaker 1: doing all of that. But what I regret the most

2838
03:05:11,480 --> 03:05:16,840
Speaker 1: is not spending more time with him. Who's oldest little vibes? No, yeah,

2839
03:05:16,920 --> 03:05:19,080
Speaker 1: lia vibes, all right, But this is the good thing

2840
03:05:19,120 --> 03:05:23,000
Speaker 1: about it. The liquor vibes gave me two grandchildren. So

2841
03:05:23,240 --> 03:05:27,440
Speaker 1: now I have the opportunity giving me another chance. Yes,

2842
03:05:27,600 --> 03:05:32,600
Speaker 1: second chances. Man, God is the greatest. Bro.

2843
03:05:32,760 --> 03:05:33,720
Speaker 4: I believe in God.

2844
03:05:35,000 --> 03:05:37,440
Speaker 1: Bro when I was even if you watch a lot

2845
03:05:37,520 --> 03:05:40,240
Speaker 1: of my old interoys, that's the Wilford I know because

2846
03:05:40,320 --> 03:05:50,320
Speaker 1: you watch America. I'm like, yeah, so he knows what

2847
03:05:50,560 --> 03:05:55,200
Speaker 1: soup is. I used to say, bro whatever x x X.

2848
03:05:55,720 --> 03:06:00,280
Speaker 1: Now I believe in Like my son, I didn't get

2849
03:06:00,320 --> 03:06:06,440
Speaker 1: to raise him. He gave me two grandchildren. Yes, so no,

2850
03:06:06,560 --> 03:06:10,480
Speaker 1: I can raise a granddaughter and a grandson. So I'm

2851
03:06:10,560 --> 03:06:14,840
Speaker 1: like that's yeah, yeah, I'm not to my grandson. Make

2852
03:06:14,879 --> 03:06:16,840
Speaker 1: sure you get a lot of pussy. I'm gonna have

2853
03:06:16,920 --> 03:06:26,640
Speaker 1: to my granddaughter if you ever two point zero. But seriously, though,

2854
03:06:26,640 --> 03:06:29,560
Speaker 1: it's like he gave me a new lease on life

2855
03:06:30,640 --> 03:06:35,280
Speaker 1: to be able to because and this is I'm going

2856
03:06:35,360 --> 03:06:41,200
Speaker 1: to tell you, I'm going to be honest. Before I

2857
03:06:41,280 --> 03:06:45,400
Speaker 1: got arrested, I never believe in God as a concept.

2858
03:06:46,840 --> 03:06:52,240
Speaker 1: So being in prison, and like I said, I put

2859
03:06:52,320 --> 03:06:55,160
Speaker 1: the two thirty head on my Where is it two

2860
03:06:55,280 --> 03:06:57,880
Speaker 1: thirty eight? Where is the tattoo? I don't even know?

2861
03:06:58,160 --> 03:07:04,720
Speaker 1: Look where is it? Yeah, let's start right, gee right there, right,

2862
03:07:05,720 --> 03:07:21,000
Speaker 1: don't study Norman che hold on these nuts.

2863
03:07:21,080 --> 03:07:21,240
Speaker 18: Right.

2864
03:07:25,640 --> 03:07:25,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2865
03:07:27,040 --> 03:07:34,360
Speaker 1: When I said this, no, no disrespect. When I'm gonna

2866
03:07:34,360 --> 03:07:38,600
Speaker 1: say this, I knew that I was going to come out.

2867
03:07:38,800 --> 03:07:44,959
Speaker 1: But at the time I needed that extra energy because

2868
03:07:45,000 --> 03:07:48,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people were depending on me, not just

2869
03:07:48,200 --> 03:07:51,200
Speaker 1: the guys that I was arrested with, but my mother

2870
03:07:51,280 --> 03:07:56,279
Speaker 1: and my father, my children, my cousins, my aunts, my uncles. Remember,

2871
03:07:56,400 --> 03:07:59,760
Speaker 1: this is Jamaica. This is not fucking Wall Street ship.

2872
03:08:00,400 --> 03:08:05,279
Speaker 1: This is Jamaica. So I had to put my faith

2873
03:08:05,600 --> 03:08:12,280
Speaker 1: in something other than us. And that's when I got

2874
03:08:12,400 --> 03:08:19,000
Speaker 1: more spiritual, more religious, and started focusing. And that's when

2875
03:08:19,040 --> 03:08:21,400
Speaker 1: I tattooed the thing on my face love God. I

2876
03:08:21,440 --> 03:08:43,360
Speaker 1: don't know if you can see it. What's your man?

2877
03:08:45,440 --> 03:08:48,360
Speaker 1: That's when I became more spiritual because I used to

2878
03:08:48,480 --> 03:08:52,560
Speaker 1: order church like most Jamaicans, because Jamaicans have the most

2879
03:08:52,720 --> 03:08:57,560
Speaker 1: churches per square capital. Really, you know what, you know

2880
03:08:57,680 --> 03:09:01,680
Speaker 1: what beats it the most bars. And I'm not even joking,

2881
03:09:01,959 --> 03:09:06,840
Speaker 1: like literally bars beats no, not beats bar like where

2882
03:09:06,879 --> 03:09:10,520
Speaker 1: you go to have drink, drink, rum, shamp whatever. The

2883
03:09:10,800 --> 03:09:15,199
Speaker 1: most bars, yes, but but just by a slight because

2884
03:09:15,240 --> 03:09:18,439
Speaker 1: think about this, we have the most churches per capita

2885
03:09:18,760 --> 03:09:19,400
Speaker 1: in the world.

2886
03:09:19,760 --> 03:09:19,880
Speaker 16: Right.

2887
03:09:20,280 --> 03:09:25,400
Speaker 1: The only thing that beats that, Wow, it's bars. That's

2888
03:09:25,440 --> 03:09:32,960
Speaker 1: why you see the the the places of nature of Jamaica. Yeah, discurpacs.

2889
03:09:33,120 --> 03:09:35,680
Speaker 1: So on one side of Jamaica, you're partying, you're in

2890
03:09:35,760 --> 03:09:39,520
Speaker 1: a tourist country and you're enjoying yourself and nobody fucking knew.

2891
03:09:39,959 --> 03:09:44,400
Speaker 1: And on the other side, fifty three people die in

2892
03:09:44,520 --> 03:09:52,039
Speaker 1: two days murder, so crazy. It is three people die

2893
03:09:52,680 --> 03:09:56,920
Speaker 1: between Monday and between Friday and Sunday. But when you

2894
03:09:57,120 --> 03:10:02,800
Speaker 1: are in Montego Bay, not and not that the real

2895
03:10:02,879 --> 03:10:06,199
Speaker 1: month ago, you're in the resort, the resort, right, the safety.

2896
03:10:06,200 --> 03:10:09,240
Speaker 1: You're good, right, But when you go back to America

2897
03:10:09,560 --> 03:10:12,200
Speaker 1: and you go on Google, you see that fifty three

2898
03:10:12,320 --> 03:10:18,560
Speaker 1: people died between Friday and Sunday by murder. It's crazy, man.

2899
03:10:18,800 --> 03:10:21,120
Speaker 6: So tell me something. Since you've been out, what have

2900
03:10:21,240 --> 03:10:23,840
Speaker 6: you seen change the climate of Jamaica?

2901
03:10:25,080 --> 03:10:30,280
Speaker 1: Nothing? Just the love for me. But my thing is this,

2902
03:10:32,680 --> 03:10:36,920
Speaker 1: why are you shooting people because you have no other option.

2903
03:10:38,240 --> 03:10:40,440
Speaker 1: You were in school and you were you could paint

2904
03:10:40,600 --> 03:10:44,880
Speaker 1: very well, you could draw jay Z and it looked

2905
03:10:44,920 --> 03:10:47,960
Speaker 1: like jay Z. But because no one cared about that,

2906
03:10:48,920 --> 03:10:52,560
Speaker 1: and you lived in fucking flat boards, no opportunities, no opportunities,

2907
03:10:52,640 --> 03:10:57,320
Speaker 1: so you just started to shoot. Yeah, gun man, no

2908
03:10:57,440 --> 03:11:00,480
Speaker 1: your batman. And it feels good. You know, life feels

2909
03:11:00,520 --> 03:11:04,160
Speaker 1: good because they're a man and man need purpose, get respect,

2910
03:11:04,600 --> 03:11:08,000
Speaker 1: man need respect, and we need purpose. So you found

2911
03:11:08,040 --> 03:11:11,680
Speaker 1: your purpose because you do it very well. Run upon

2912
03:11:11,760 --> 03:11:16,160
Speaker 1: niggas and shooting them, is it right?

2913
03:11:17,440 --> 03:11:17,480
Speaker 7: No?

2914
03:11:19,120 --> 03:11:23,200
Speaker 1: But all you had left was purpose. Found it with

2915
03:11:23,440 --> 03:11:28,520
Speaker 1: your gun the same way we found it after the gun,

2916
03:11:28,640 --> 03:11:31,840
Speaker 1: with the microphone, music with the microphone. Jordan's founded with

2917
03:11:31,920 --> 03:11:34,640
Speaker 1: the basketball. But you don't punk. You want a picture

2918
03:11:34,680 --> 03:11:38,640
Speaker 1: with Jordan's nigga. Fuck, nigga, pay me. That's why I

2919
03:11:38,720 --> 03:11:41,680
Speaker 1: have no problem with Jordan's because I understand his mindset.

2920
03:11:43,720 --> 03:11:46,520
Speaker 1: Is it wrong or right, that's for people to decide.

2921
03:11:47,640 --> 03:11:50,959
Speaker 1: But I understand the mindset of the man because well,

2922
03:11:51,480 --> 03:11:54,240
Speaker 1: I grew up in the ghetto. I understand how it works.

2923
03:11:55,400 --> 03:11:58,800
Speaker 1: And if you don't understand that, man, you naive as fuck.

2924
03:11:58,840 --> 03:12:01,760
Speaker 1: You need to live in color you know what I mean.

2925
03:12:02,360 --> 03:12:05,480
Speaker 1: Let's go skiing in the fucking window or some trick

2926
03:12:07,720 --> 03:12:11,400
Speaker 1: and ship, you know what I mean. I love Colorado, Weed, Colorado,

2927
03:12:11,640 --> 03:12:15,160
Speaker 1: let us know, Yeah, and Oregon. Yeah, I love we

2928
03:12:15,760 --> 03:12:19,400
Speaker 1: got it in Yeah, that's yeah. When you smoke that

2929
03:12:19,520 --> 03:12:22,600
Speaker 1: smoke Champs Weed, I haven't. I'm taking it home. I

2930
03:12:22,720 --> 03:12:25,960
Speaker 1: love that ship. I'm taking it home. Listen, when you

2931
03:12:26,120 --> 03:12:28,720
Speaker 1: smoke it, you have to make a blog about it

2932
03:12:28,840 --> 03:12:31,480
Speaker 1: and say, yo, I will. I'm as well, Jackson, where

2933
03:12:31,640 --> 03:12:35,600
Speaker 1: was it? This is my little monkey? What's the monkey's name? Pablo?

2934
03:12:38,440 --> 03:12:42,680
Speaker 1: This is my bubbles hoping I smoke it. I see doubles.

2935
03:12:47,280 --> 03:12:49,040
Speaker 2: Let me just say something in it, be in it

2936
03:12:49,120 --> 03:12:52,680
Speaker 2: with this yeah vibes, man, I'm being honest with you.

2937
03:12:53,120 --> 03:12:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Me being a New Yorker it's just a little

2938
03:12:56,640 --> 03:12:57,440
Speaker 1: Jamaica for us.

2939
03:12:57,520 --> 03:13:03,800
Speaker 2: It's little Jamaica, New York directly. Yes, related. Yes, I

2940
03:13:03,920 --> 03:13:06,520
Speaker 2: always wanted to meet you. I always wanted to, you know,

2941
03:13:06,760 --> 03:13:10,200
Speaker 2: come into the same you know room with you, just

2942
03:13:10,440 --> 03:13:14,560
Speaker 2: vie with you. And then I realized one of my friends,

2943
03:13:14,600 --> 03:13:16,720
Speaker 2: one of my best friends in the world, name is

2944
03:13:16,760 --> 03:13:18,199
Speaker 2: Busta rhymes damn.

2945
03:13:19,520 --> 03:13:21,959
Speaker 1: And he stepped to me and he.

2946
03:13:22,040 --> 03:13:26,440
Speaker 2: Told me who you actually are, because I was not

2947
03:13:26,840 --> 03:13:27,800
Speaker 2: just the persona.

2948
03:13:29,320 --> 03:13:29,520
Speaker 1: Yes.

2949
03:13:29,800 --> 03:13:33,080
Speaker 2: So and when I tell you that man woke up

2950
03:13:33,440 --> 03:13:35,120
Speaker 2: four o'clock in the morning, you want to.

2951
03:13:35,160 --> 03:13:35,640
Speaker 1: Get a shot?

2952
03:13:37,160 --> 03:13:42,840
Speaker 2: Yes, hold on, hold on, because I said, okay, all right,

2953
03:13:42,840 --> 03:13:43,440
Speaker 2: I do that too.

2954
03:13:43,680 --> 03:13:47,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fucus definitely out, all right,

2955
03:13:47,640 --> 03:13:50,560
Speaker 1: pour it in this let's go pour this ship in

2956
03:13:50,680 --> 03:13:54,520
Speaker 1: this ship. But my brother bust around not a lot.

2957
03:13:55,040 --> 03:14:00,760
Speaker 1: She what's her name, Jamie Jamie? Yeah, don't play me,

2958
03:14:11,080 --> 03:14:12,520
Speaker 1: but bob. Yeah.

2959
03:14:12,840 --> 03:14:16,400
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you, man, when we started this

2960
03:14:16,840 --> 03:14:19,760
Speaker 2: and we wanted, we wanted to pay respect to the

2961
03:14:19,879 --> 03:14:25,560
Speaker 2: dance hall, respected the reggae wonder and our fans went

2962
03:14:25,640 --> 03:14:29,000
Speaker 2: so crazy. Let's say your show won't be your show

2963
03:14:29,440 --> 03:14:33,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't be official. Yes, like a referee with a whistle.

2964
03:14:33,680 --> 03:14:41,080
Speaker 20: Yeah right, unless it's so important, unless you have like

2965
03:14:41,200 --> 03:14:43,720
Speaker 20: a Russian missile, but unless you have.

2966
03:14:43,959 --> 03:14:48,960
Speaker 2: Bout the kingdom. Yes, and me personally, I think you

2967
03:14:49,240 --> 03:14:50,760
Speaker 2: and being the are both kings.

2968
03:14:50,640 --> 03:14:53,320
Speaker 1: Bro, my respect, I love being the mine he was

2969
03:14:53,400 --> 03:14:56,000
Speaker 1: before me. How the fuck you not in respect a

2970
03:14:56,120 --> 03:14:59,680
Speaker 1: nigga who made made this before you from the ghetto.

2971
03:15:00,080 --> 03:15:03,480
Speaker 1: Open the doors, you bitch and winna do bitch business.

2972
03:15:03,600 --> 03:15:09,000
Speaker 1: I think you're real bunty killer, big up, your big

2973
03:15:09,080 --> 03:15:14,160
Speaker 1: up ninja man. After that. Me know, me and my

2974
03:15:14,240 --> 03:15:18,959
Speaker 1: father in the same league, you understand, So yeah, big Godi.

2975
03:15:19,080 --> 03:15:27,560
Speaker 1: God listen, any y'all know I'm touring it me my father, bunty,

2976
03:15:28,320 --> 03:15:28,640
Speaker 1: won't you.

2977
03:15:28,879 --> 03:15:38,119
Speaker 21: That's right, that's the sort. That's that's the only tour.

2978
03:15:39,920 --> 03:15:45,160
Speaker 21: No the empty everybody, all right right?

2979
03:15:45,280 --> 03:15:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the fever, give me the fever. You

2980
03:15:49,440 --> 03:15:51,800
Speaker 1: want the bottle? Yea, give me the fever.

2981
03:15:52,200 --> 03:15:53,080
Speaker 4: Let's get the fever.

2982
03:15:54,040 --> 03:16:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, you know why I'm blessed? Yes, because my

2983
03:16:05,000 --> 03:16:15,360
Speaker 1: managers don't drink. Yeah. No, no, no, no, you know

2984
03:16:15,440 --> 03:16:18,960
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, I said, hold on. I saved

2985
03:16:19,040 --> 03:16:22,720
Speaker 1: the day because it's not under your eye, on your nose.

2986
03:16:24,760 --> 03:16:31,040
Speaker 1: Get it. I'm out a mouth. I keep sucking it up.

2987
03:16:31,480 --> 03:16:33,760
Speaker 1: I'm smoked down. No, you can't fuck it up. You

2988
03:16:33,840 --> 03:16:45,840
Speaker 1: can't suck up your drink Champs. Hold on, hold on on, yeah, no, no, no, okay, gee,

2989
03:16:47,720 --> 03:16:52,720
Speaker 1: then do you know do you recognize your hip hop legend?

2990
03:16:53,320 --> 03:17:02,000
Speaker 1: Not a fucking podcast legend? Essen is a podcast legend. Yes,

2991
03:17:02,440 --> 03:17:06,040
Speaker 1: you're hip hop lashion and the podcastle when I said

2992
03:17:06,360 --> 03:17:10,400
Speaker 1: F is a podcast lesson that comes love him, yes,

2993
03:17:10,879 --> 03:17:13,800
Speaker 1: and love you, but they also love you because you

2994
03:17:14,000 --> 03:17:16,119
Speaker 1: was a rapper. I'm gonna get you on my rap

2995
03:17:16,200 --> 03:17:17,000
Speaker 1: album right now.

2996
03:17:19,440 --> 03:17:40,119
Speaker 4: Bro, bro bro, Yeah, because you was before everyone.

2997
03:17:40,640 --> 03:17:41,080
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.

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03:17:42,440 --> 03:17:45,760
Speaker 5: Drink Champs is a drink Champs ll C production hosts

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Speaker 5: and executive producers n O r E and d J

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Speaker 5: E f N.

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03:17:50,560 --> 03:17:51,640
Speaker 1: Listen to drink Champs on.

3002
03:17:51,680 --> 03:17:56,640
Speaker 5: Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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03:17:57,760 --> 03:18:00,000
Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us for another episode of drink Champ

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03:18:00,240 --> 03:18:02,840
Speaker 5: hosted by Yours truly, dj E f N and n

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03:18:02,840 --> 03:18:04,920
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03:18:05,000 --> 03:18:08,120
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Speaker 1: Mine is at Who's Crazy on ig at dj

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03:18:18,440 --> 03:18:21,600
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