WEBVTT - Beating The Book: 2023 NFL Week 10 Guessing Lines Show

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<v Speaker 1>The numbers told the story they always done. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those idiots who believe in the analytics.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a numbers game with Gil Alexander, gone Vison.

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<v Speaker 1>Good Monday morning to you.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the numbers game at Visa, the sports betting network,

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<v Speaker 2>Visa dot Com, the Visa app game plus iHeartRadio, YouTube TV,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course the DraftKings Network. It's Gill Alexander, It's

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<v Speaker 2>Kelly Midlin, producer number nine, so much more than a

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<v Speaker 2>producer guessing lines. Week ten in the National Football League,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course in the process I look back at

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<v Speaker 2>all things week number nine.

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing man? Good? I'm doing great. How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Good week? Good week in the NFL. Another good contest week.

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<v Speaker 2>If only I hadn't had that and five, then I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be doing something that's yea got overcome?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you what was that week five? That it was

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<v Speaker 1>week five because it was the first week of that

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<v Speaker 1>of that second quarter, you went over five. I went

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<v Speaker 1>one at four. Yeah, I gotta buried us. I went

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<v Speaker 1>two and three yesterday four and one for me.

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<v Speaker 2>We're we're both now at tick below sixty percent, so

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<v Speaker 2>we're not allowed to talk about our entries. We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>under sixty percent. But this show, the guessing lines process

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<v Speaker 2>has been money. It has been really good week after week.

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<v Speaker 2>Now where what halfway through the NFL season in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the number of weeks nine in the books, nine

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<v Speaker 2>to go? So could things turn for the worse? Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>there's plenty of time for that, so we want to

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<v Speaker 2>remain humble about it all. But it has been a

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<v Speaker 2>great profitable exercise thus far. And for those who are

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<v Speaker 2>just new to it, I'm in a cocoon. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know the lines for the upcoming week in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess a line. Kelly then informs us what the

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<v Speaker 2>actual line is, and in that exercise we try to

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<v Speaker 2>extract value from all of this, and so far, so

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<v Speaker 2>good this year. First, a Survivor update before we get

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<v Speaker 2>into week number ten and all the shenanigans of week

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<v Speaker 2>number nine, and there were some shenanigans. Sixty three entries

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<v Speaker 2>eliminated this week in Circus Survivor Kelly sixty three, so

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<v Speaker 2>eleven hundred and thirty eight remain. Eleven hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 2>eight remain in Circa Survivor. By the way, four of

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<v Speaker 2>those were no picks. Still four non submissions in circa

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<v Speaker 2>survivor into November. Boy, I hope the people responsible for

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<v Speaker 2>those entries are okay. I hope everything's okay with them,

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<v Speaker 2>because otherwise you can't imagine why those why that didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>For that, I know, Yeah, I think you've said that first,

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<v Speaker 1>like last year or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I was that we don't know. I was like, you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea we kill these people. We have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea what's happening in their lives. But eleven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty eight remain out of the original nine thy

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and sixty seven. You know what that means?

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<v Speaker 2>Eight the intrinsic value, the intrinsic value of each remaining

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<v Speaker 2>entry eight thousand, one hundred and forty three dollars and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three cents. Now again, eleven hundred and thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>entries left means this thing hasn't even started yet. In essence,

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<v Speaker 2>last year, at this time, one hundred and fifteen out

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<v Speaker 2>of six and one hundred and thirty three were left.

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<v Speaker 2>That was carnage last year. In the first seven weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>it was one twenty five. After seven weeks, one fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>left last week, but one one hundred and thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>entries left pending tonight's game, where I don't believe there's

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<v Speaker 2>a pick in tonight's game. Yeah, there are Chargers, have

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<v Speaker 2>ten on the Chargers tonight, so perhaps more eliminated tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is a uh, this is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Slow grind and survivor for those still alive. Sadly, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 2>you and I are not. And well, had that Washington

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago game gone differently, I'd still be alive. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really rooting for a second loss, so I can just say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>i'd been out of it anyway. But everything, All the

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<v Speaker 2>big ones got home. The Falcons were the biggest killer

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<v Speaker 2>for teams for entries, folks who had entries yesterday, only

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<v Speaker 2>thirty nine on the Falcons though, the big ones obviously

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<v Speaker 2>the Browns and the Saints, which both got home.

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<v Speaker 1>Next one up? What Patriots with four? When I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>to cross that one off? They did lose?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, eleven hundred and thirty nine left, thirty eight left.

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<v Speaker 2>Pardon me, eleven hundred and thirty eight. Good luck to

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<v Speaker 2>those remaining. Shall we begin with Thursday night football?

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<v Speaker 1>And will uh? Let's do it. Let's wait for the marquee.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's wait let's wait for the beautiful. The beautiful for

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<v Speaker 1>guessing lines. Everybody get.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd think after all these years, I remember that there

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<v Speaker 2>was a guessing lines intro.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, we found a couple we liked last week. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish it was the only thing I bet this past week.

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<v Speaker 1>It added bet the Bengals. The Bengals is what we

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<v Speaker 1>like the best. Last We loved that last week. That

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<v Speaker 1>was great. Worked love the Lions a week before that

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<v Speaker 1>was really nice. All right, Thursday night, get ready? Panthers

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<v Speaker 1>at the Bears. This is Thursday night football games. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like this is the worst primetime trio of games

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen in a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>If you had to come up with a matchup for

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday night football, could you come.

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<v Speaker 1>Up with one worse than this? This is? This is horribing,

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<v Speaker 1>great question, Carol.

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<v Speaker 2>The one in seven Panthers at the two and seven Bears.

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<v Speaker 2>The Panthers yesterday, we'll pick it up. They were down

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<v Speaker 2>three to nothing to Indianapols. Second quarter, Colts went sixty

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<v Speaker 2>four yards Minshew to tailor from ten. I was ten

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<v Speaker 2>to nothing Colts then at thirteen to three in favor

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<v Speaker 2>of the Colts. Carolina is matriculating first and ten at

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<v Speaker 2>the Indianapolis forty nine, and Bryce Young telegraphs a pass

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<v Speaker 2>picked by Kenny Moore of the second forty nine yards

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<v Speaker 2>of the house, pick six, twenty to three. The Colts

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<v Speaker 2>would lead it at the half. By the way, that

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<v Speaker 2>was one of those pick sixes where the second it left,

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<v Speaker 2>the millisecond that it left Bryce Young's hand, you as

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<v Speaker 2>a viewer, were like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>No, of course, to the house it goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Third quarter after Indianapol's punk, Carolina does go eighty two yards,

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<v Speaker 2>including converting a fourth and one at the Indianapoles twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one with six oh six left in the third, Bryce

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<v Speaker 2>to Tremble for eleven. Three plays later, Bryce to Chark

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<v Speaker 2>from five out touchdown twenty to ten in favor of

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<v Speaker 2>the Colts. But even that drive took forever to get downfield.

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<v Speaker 2>You had no confidence in the Carolina offense. But then

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<v Speaker 2>Indianapolis punted again. The Colts punted again, so you're like, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 2>Caroline is down ten, could this be a Carolina two

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<v Speaker 2>and a half point dogs? In that game, they get

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<v Speaker 2>a third and eleven from Bryce to Hurst Hayden Hurst

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<v Speaker 2>for forty eight, and you're like, wow, they got out

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<v Speaker 2>of a gym. They got out of jail. There they're

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<v Speaker 2>like pass midfield. But two plays later, Bryce Way overthrows

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<v Speaker 2>his intended receiver and guess who's on the other end

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<v Speaker 2>of that pass. Kenny Moore the second, this time sixty

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<v Speaker 2>six yards to the house, his second pick six of

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<v Speaker 2>the game, twenty seven to ten Indianapolis just a minute

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty seconds into the fourth quarter. Colts would win

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<v Speaker 2>it twenty seven to thirteen, but not till Bryce threw

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<v Speaker 2>another pick, and that one wasn't pretty either. Bryce twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four of thirty nine for one seventy three, one touchdown,

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<v Speaker 2>three picks, sacked four times, five carries for forty one

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<v Speaker 2>They outgained Indianapolis. Carolina did two seventy five to one

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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight, but ten Ben at least for eighty one

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<v Speaker 2>yards and minus two and turnovers that led directly to

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<v Speaker 2>plus fourteen Indianapolis points. And I mean directly on the

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<v Speaker 2>two pick six. Is that's your margin of victory period

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<v Speaker 2>twenty seven to thirteen Colts and Bryce Young has I

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<v Speaker 2>hate to say it because I love the kid, but

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<v Speaker 2>everything that we say at the NFL draft, how are

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<v Speaker 2>they not drafting, how are the Panthers not drafting CJ's drought.

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<v Speaker 2>How are they drafting Bryce Young? We lost all our

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<v Speaker 2>bets because of it. But it's kind of manifesting here

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<v Speaker 2>in the season.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's yeah, it is what it is. But kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like you said, man, if you're a Panthers fan,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to jump to conclusions, but the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years might be kind of rough. Watch what

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<v Speaker 1>you got versus what's going on in Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>Panthers off that loss at Chicago. Chicago loses to the

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<v Speaker 2>Saints yesterday, much of the happiness of many a survivor

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<v Speaker 2>player who had the Saints Chicago opening drive forth and

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<v Speaker 2>what the New Orleans thirty seven secret beagent man for

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<v Speaker 2>five three plays later bajing to Comet, great catch from

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<v Speaker 2>Coole Comet from eighteen to out seven to nothing Bears

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<v Speaker 2>after New Orleans punts second and fifteen at their own

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<v Speaker 2>forty one for Chicago beagent pick by Paulsen at Dabo

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<v Speaker 2>that led to a short forty five yard field for

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<v Speaker 2>the Saints, car to a love on third and goal

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<v Speaker 2>from the eight. Was seven to seven with forty four

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<v Speaker 2>seconds left. The first Bears came right back seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>yards bajing to Comet again for nine fourteen to seven Bears,

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<v Speaker 2>then twelve to fifty two left in the second quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>but then New Orleans came right back seventy five yards

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<v Speaker 2>car to Taysom Hill from two out, tie ball game

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<v Speaker 2>again fourteen apiece, a fourteen apiece rather six ozh five

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<v Speaker 2>left in the second quarter. Cairo Santos then joinked a

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<v Speaker 2>forty yard field goal in the ensuing drive. Fourteen fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>would be the halftime score after Groupe had a fifty

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<v Speaker 2>five yard field goal that was set up by a

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<v Speaker 2>DJ More fumble. Then Chicago answered with the Santos thirty

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<v Speaker 2>one yard It was seventeen to seventeen at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>tied a gam team's traded punts. Then New Orleans went

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<v Speaker 2>fifty three yards held to Juwan Johnson for three out,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four to seventeen New Orleans. Now from this point forward, Kelly,

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<v Speaker 2>the game was just a seven point margin where Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>just kept getting rebuffed in this ballgame. Beigent picked on

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<v Speaker 2>the Bears second play on the ensuing drive, Marcus May

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<v Speaker 2>on the other end of that, but the Chicago de

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<v Speaker 2>held when they stopped car short on a fourth and

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<v Speaker 2>one at the Chicago's seventeen, then still down seven thirty

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<v Speaker 2>nine at They're on twenty nine for Chicago beajent picked

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<v Speaker 2>by Paul's on to devo again five oh eight to go,

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<v Speaker 2>but New Orleans can't do anything with it. Chicago held

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<v Speaker 2>to a three and out. New Orleans gets it back

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<v Speaker 2>with two forty five to go, but that resulted in

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<v Speaker 2>a group a missed forty seven yard field goal. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>he joinked that one.

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<v Speaker 1>No good.

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<v Speaker 2>Bear's got the ball back down seven again with two

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six to go. Second play of that drive, those

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<v Speaker 2>second and twenty at their own twenty seven two sixty

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<v Speaker 2>to go beaij and sacked by Tomrio Davis fumbled. Pete

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<v Speaker 2>Warner recovered ball game twenty four to seventeen. New Orleans

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<v Speaker 2>beije in eighteen of thirty for two twenty two touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>three picks. He was sacked twice eight four to seventy.

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<v Speaker 2>On the ground with one fumble loss, they outgained Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>did New Orleans three sixty eight to three oh one,

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<v Speaker 2>but minus five in turnovers led to plus ten New

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<v Speaker 2>Orleans points, but the last three in the fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 2>stymied any chances. We just mentioned of Chicago having to

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<v Speaker 2>come back from that twenty four to seventeen one score deficit.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, we have this tweet from Fabian Summer

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<v Speaker 2>over at at Worse. Fabian Summer he's at action. No,

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<v Speaker 2>Fabian Summer is at is with Rob Bizola at the Hammer.

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<v Speaker 2>Pardon me, Fabian Summer's over at the Hammer. He said

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<v Speaker 2>the Saints had a five to nothing turnover advantage and

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<v Speaker 2>didn't cover. Teams with a plus five turnover margin were

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<v Speaker 2>two two hundred and twenty seven, twelve and one against

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<v Speaker 2>the spread since nineteen eighty nine, nineteen eighty nine as

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<v Speaker 2>wild sorry doing public enemy okay, and the Saints get

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<v Speaker 2>the plus five turnover advantage, still can't cover, but the

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<v Speaker 2>Bears don't get the win. So this is Carolina at Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>We probably made more of this than I should have.

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<v Speaker 2>The one in seven Panthers at the two and seven Bears.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't decide between the Bears minus four the Bears

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<v Speaker 2>mine is three and a half. I ended up with

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<v Speaker 2>the Bears mines three and a half, ning right on

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<v Speaker 2>three and a half. Three and a half on the Bears, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>up from three earlier. I think that's where it opened

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<v Speaker 2>most places. But it is three and a half now

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<v Speaker 2>at DraftKings. It came my way, wasn't wasn't that initially?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was, it was. It was bears three earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I punched these in the earlier this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>about four hours ago. And then yeah, we're three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half pretty much everywhere in the market right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Not much to say about these two teams other than

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona's probably still worse with Clayton tune than the both

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<v Speaker 2>of these teams are, so I think again, Eric Eager's

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<v Speaker 2>greatest call is Arizona will will end up with a

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<v Speaker 2>number one pick. We'll get to them if they're going

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<v Speaker 2>with Kyler Murray or with Clayton toontor what's happening there.

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<v Speaker 2>But these two teams going nowhere fast, Silk can't get

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<v Speaker 2>in the win column. But I will say the Tyson

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<v Speaker 2>Beason experience has been better than most would have expected.

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<v Speaker 1>D two quarterback for sure. I mean, you know, going

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<v Speaker 1>back to that tweet roll quickly that was I was

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there the whole game. I had the same sign

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<v Speaker 1>into a teaser and didn't know. But like sitting there,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like how many times you're gonna turn the ball

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<v Speaker 1>over and still be live in this game? And he

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<v Speaker 1>set them up for a little bit of success at

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<v Speaker 1>least early on.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back, we'll continue with Week ten games. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to the Sunday slate and we'll talk Kansas City Miami,

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<v Speaker 2>which I know they're both on buys this week, but

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<v Speaker 2>we've got to touch on that game yesterday from Frankfurt.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a numbers game at vis in these Sports Betting

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<v Speaker 2>Network guessing lines for Week ten Skill Alexander, we get

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<v Speaker 2>tweets at Beating the Book. Always appreciate the feedback, James

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<v Speaker 2>O'Connor Gill, you're seeing the ball well.

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<v Speaker 1>Lately.

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<v Speaker 2>Megapod has been on a epic run with all of

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<v Speaker 2>our picks, so check it out again the Beating the

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<v Speaker 2>Book Megapod. For all those on the Beating the Book feed,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, sir, appreciate it. Hope it last, Ray Pierce,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a three tea money line parlay Ravens, Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>and Chargers. I'm pretty sure you guarantee, you guaranteed that

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<v Speaker 2>nothing could go wrong. It's right, that's exactly what I guarantee.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any play on tonight's game, Charges and Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>I got nothing. I'd be I'd be leaning Chargers, which

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like is in the minority. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know multiple people that bets on the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets tonight, but I can't get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Grayson Rossy, pointing out to us that Pete Futech are

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<v Speaker 2>our lovely college football friend, hates doesn't understaid he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>understand the logic of down eight going for two. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, quote exactly what you need, Pete says, if

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<v Speaker 2>you kick the extra point, you know exactly what you need.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have to have a discussion with Pete about that

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<v Speaker 2>later in the week. Man. Jesse, well, that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was I mean, it wasn't last night the perfect example

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<v Speaker 1>of like you saw it play out where they get

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<v Speaker 1>the two. Yeah, so like now you know that they

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<v Speaker 1>have a better chance of winning.

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<v Speaker 2>After that second half, wagers came down to that two

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<v Speaker 2>point co version by I talked to Sean McDermott, Yah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was Cincinnati plus six. Jesse Welch just want

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<v Speaker 2>to congratulate us all who had made Stroud the number

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<v Speaker 2>one overall pick the Texans and Panthers season thus far

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<v Speaker 2>or payment enough for.

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<v Speaker 1>My bets that should have cashed. I wish it worked

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<v Speaker 1>that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see, this is just to follow Visa says. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not one hundred percent on what happened because of a

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<v Speaker 2>stupid adult responsibilities taking my attention, but my Texans minus

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<v Speaker 2>two and a half would have benefited from them signing

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Brown mid drive right worked out for.

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<v Speaker 1>A minute way. It was actually surprised we didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>ten ten times more tweets about that yesterday? Will we

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<v Speaker 1>get a bunch of that? The better life tim loss?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll say it again, I'm growing tired of commentators

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<v Speaker 2>mentioning analytics in a way that sounds like they're apologizing

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<v Speaker 2>to the viewer for the decision that's being made in

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<v Speaker 2>the game. Oh, I one hundred percent agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I We'll do one more here. It's not juice if

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<v Speaker 2>you win. Why can't you talk about your circu picks

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<v Speaker 2>after the fact? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, can you explain how to calculate the value of

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<v Speaker 2>your survivor pool so I can figure it out for

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<v Speaker 2>my own pool?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Always love the show boys.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's talking about the intrinsic value, just the

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<v Speaker 2>total money in the pool divided by the number of

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<v Speaker 2>entries remaining. That's all I'm talking about there. And then

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of what I had yesterday, I lost on

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<v Speaker 2>the Panthers. I couldn't come up with a fifth pick.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, I don't know, I don't know. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna hope the Panthers are as good as some folks

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<v Speaker 2>say they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's tough to get to five. I can't do

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do it this past weekend. It's tough to

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<v Speaker 1>get to it. It's when the list started. Yeah, gil

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<v Speaker 1>of teams that teams that I can't I can't handle anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>either betting on, betting against or just having it a

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<v Speaker 1>bet altogether. Panthers are on that list. It was dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to get cute with them a couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>worked out one time, NOLP see you later.

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<v Speaker 2>Before that, I had correct as. If you listen to

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<v Speaker 2>Guessing Lines, you knew that I liked Cincinnati who got

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<v Speaker 2>it done against Buffalo last night. I liked Washington. If

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<v Speaker 2>you listened to the show last week, you heard me

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<v Speaker 2>talk about how I don't think the line should have

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<v Speaker 2>moved when Washington got rid of both Montes Sweat and

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<v Speaker 2>Chase Young.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked the.

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<v Speaker 2>Eagles, which was super duper fortunate. By the way, I

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<v Speaker 2>completely admitted, but I didn't buy into what like all

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<v Speaker 2>of our guests. All of our guests loved Dallas last week.

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen too many Philly Dallas games to have understood

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<v Speaker 2>that conviction. So that got That was fortunate, that got home.

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<v Speaker 2>And the fourth one and I'm drawing a blank now

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<v Speaker 2>on what the fourth one was. Oh, Kansas City against Miami,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you listened to the megapot on that, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was kind of just a default. I've been saying

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<v Speaker 2>Miami's a bully all this time, and I'm like, and

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<v Speaker 2>I needed to come up with enough picks, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just take Kansas City until Miami proves me otherwise.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was that was my four or five about

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<v Speaker 2>that Kansas City Miami game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I realized both teams are on buys this week, so

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<v Speaker 2>this will applied to week ten. But Kansas City does

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<v Speaker 2>get it done. Twenty one to fourteen. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>tale of two halves. In fact, with two thirty one

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<v Speaker 2>left in the second quarter, Kansas City was out gaining

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<v Speaker 2>Miami two one to sixty seven at that point in

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<v Speaker 2>the game, and they were up fourteen to nothing from

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<v Speaker 2>that point six to thirty one. Pardon me left in

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<v Speaker 2>the second quarter to the end of the game, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just do the quick math with the final total yards.

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<v Speaker 2>Miami out gained Kansas City two twenty five to sixty six,

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<v Speaker 2>and they end up losing twenty one to fourteen. Miami

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<v Speaker 2>does on a final sequence they're taking the ball downfield.

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<v Speaker 2>That final sequence of four downs from Miami would to

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<v Speaker 2>a like regressed into like a high school quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like that.

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<v Speaker 2>On that last sequence, they got the ball all the

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<v Speaker 2>way to the Kansas City thirty one with one to

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen left on two most runs of twenty five and nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>but then three incomplete passes, one looking worse than the

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<v Speaker 2>previous like where you throwing the ball kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and then on the on fourth down a wayward snap

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<v Speaker 2>and that was the ballgame. So Kansas City does get

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<v Speaker 2>it done. But in order I fully admit this, though

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<v Speaker 2>we say it all the time, the NFL is plinko.

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<v Speaker 2>In order to end up with good in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to get the best of these kind of

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<v Speaker 2>toss up games in the end, and so they've worked

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<v Speaker 2>out for me admittedly, But did you learn anything about

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<v Speaker 2>either team? I just want to I'll put one question

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<v Speaker 2>to you, because Dolphins are exactly who they thought they were.

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<v Speaker 1>They're a bully.

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<v Speaker 2>Todd Wishnev said something very interesting about the Chiefs yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>We're so locked into thinking of them, thinking of them

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<v Speaker 2>as an offensive juggernaut. Has the time come for us

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<v Speaker 2>to think about them as actually a better defensive team

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<v Speaker 2>than offensive team, and that it's really just the power

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<v Speaker 2>of Mahomes on offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I think there's a lot of that going on

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<v Speaker 1>this year. I will say, I think that if at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the year, if we're saying that this

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<v Speaker 1>was a better defense than an offense, though the Kids

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<v Speaker 1>City Chiefs are not winning.

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<v Speaker 2>A Super Bowl, that very well could be true.

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<v Speaker 1>Just overall, I hear what Todd's saying is, yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>is basically only Mahomes on offense right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's some wisdom in that though, right like

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<v Speaker 2>we think we don't really think of them in the

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<v Speaker 2>same way that they are now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's where it's. Look, the defense is covering

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<v Speaker 1>up and helping them get it wins, covering up some

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<v Speaker 1>major problems on this offense right now. And I there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the you know, NFL trade deadline. We

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<v Speaker 1>could you know, we could talk about this stuff for days,

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<v Speaker 1>but some of these teams that just feel like there's

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<v Speaker 1>an obvious need and can't go out and get get

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<v Speaker 1>something to help the wide receivers, of course is so

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<v Speaker 1>thin here like they needed something. Let's go to do

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<v Speaker 1>a game on Sunday morning. Let's to Germany.

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<v Speaker 2>Colts at Patriots in Germany once again, Oh Colts, Patriots,

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<v Speaker 2>this ain't your Dolphins Chiefs game, Germans.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Four and five Colts two and seven Patriots. You see

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<v Speaker 2>Bill Belichick's record without Tom Brady, can we flash that

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<v Speaker 2>up on the screen. He ain't no Joe Jackson Gibbs.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what any of y'all say, as witnessed

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<v Speaker 2>by his straight up record without Tom Brady, which we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get too, mom with Charlie. Indianapolis, as we just talked

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<v Speaker 2>about beats, they beat Carolina on strength of those two

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<v Speaker 2>pick six as Minshew was seventeen of twenty six for

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<v Speaker 2>one twenty seven in the victory. Again they were out

0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.480
<v Speaker 2>gained by the Panthers two seventy five to one ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 2>But those two pick sixes where everything New England loses

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<v Speaker 2>to Washington outright twenty to seventeen. Opening Pats drive with

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<v Speaker 2>the game. After a Washington three and out to start

0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:12.320
<v Speaker 2>fourth and three at the Washington thirty nine, they went

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<v Speaker 2>for Jones and complete attendant for Taekwon Thornton. Skins eventually

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<v Speaker 2>got a sly thirty seven yard field goal three to

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<v Speaker 2>nothing Washington. Then after New England three and out again

0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:24.199
<v Speaker 2>Washington the Commodore's they went eighty yards Robinson in from

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<v Speaker 2>nine ten to nothing Washington. Could it be a route,

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<v Speaker 2>of course not, It's Washington twelve oh five left in

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<v Speaker 2>the second quarter. Then after a New England three and

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<v Speaker 2>out Washington second and eight at their own sixteen Robinson

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<v Speaker 2>hit by Johnny Tavia, a Jelanni party Jelanni Tavia fumbles,

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<v Speaker 2>de Von Godshaw recovers, sets up in New England at the

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<v Speaker 2>Washington twenty five three plays in Jones to Hunter Henry

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<v Speaker 2>from fourteen out ten to seven Commodoores nine twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>left in the second quarter. Then after a Washington punt,

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<v Speaker 2>New England went eighty four yards and two plays Jones

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<v Speaker 2>a juju for twenty then reminder from sixty four out

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<v Speaker 2>to the house, fourteen to ten New England six o'h

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<v Speaker 2>one left in the second quarter, and then Washington took

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<v Speaker 2>it all the way down field from their own twenties

0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:03.159
<v Speaker 2>to the New England five and Sam Howell with a

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<v Speaker 2>horrific pick in the end zone Kyle Dugger on the

0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.840
<v Speaker 2>other end. So New England led this fourteen to ten

0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:12.800
<v Speaker 2>at the half, and Washington led in total yards two

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<v Speaker 2>forty six to one sixty three. Time of possession was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one minutes and forty two seconds to eight eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>but because the minus two and turnovers, they trailed fourteen

0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:24.200
<v Speaker 2>to ten opening drive of the second half, third and

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<v Speaker 2>ten at the Washington thirty eight for mac Jones, He's

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<v Speaker 2>sacked by k J.

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<v Speaker 1>Henry.

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<v Speaker 2>He fumbles and the Commodes recover, but no Kelly roughing

0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:38.000
<v Speaker 2>the passers called fifteen yards for playing football fifteen yards

0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:41.159
<v Speaker 2>for tackling, results in a free three points eventually for

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<v Speaker 2>New England. Chad Ryland for forty three was seventeen to

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<v Speaker 2>ten New England with ten fourteen left in the third quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you were a Washington fan at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>or you had the Commodores in a bet you were infuriated.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the worst roughing the passer call I think

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<v Speaker 2>I might have ever seen. Well, it's up there, there's

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<v Speaker 2>been playing. I can't say it's the worst one of

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<v Speaker 2>this week. Skins came right back, said five yards though

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<v Speaker 2>howled to dots in from thirty three out tie ball

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<v Speaker 2>game at seventeen was six fifty one left in the third.

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<v Speaker 2>Then after New England punt followed by sly thirty rfield

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<v Speaker 2>was twenty seventeen Washington one forty nine left in the

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<v Speaker 2>third quarter. That would be your final because the team's

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<v Speaker 2>traded punts. Washington was like fourth and one at their

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<v Speaker 2>own forty. They're like, we'll punt it with eleven twenty

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<v Speaker 2>one to go. Then they traded punts again. New England

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<v Speaker 2>punned once more, and after a three and out, Washington

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<v Speaker 2>got the ball back up three with five oh four

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<v Speaker 2>to go at their own five. Fourth and two at

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<v Speaker 2>their own twenty seven. New England would jump off side

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<v Speaker 2>when Washington was in punt fourntion That extended the drive

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<v Speaker 2>and then New England ended up with the ball down

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<v Speaker 2>three at their own ten with two oh seven left

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<v Speaker 2>and no timeouts, but fourth and fourth the Washington forty

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<v Speaker 2>nine with one oh two to go, Jones intended for

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<v Speaker 2>Juju first it gainst to Juju for six but two

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<v Speaker 2>plays later, by the way, they convert that fourth down

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<v Speaker 2>second and eight at the Washington forty one with thirty

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<v Speaker 2>eight seconds to go, Jones picked by Jartavius Martin off

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<v Speaker 2>the deflection ballgame and Washington holds on Jones was twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four to forty four for two to twenty. They gave

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<v Speaker 2>up four hundred and thirty two total yards to Washington.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say New England and Indianapolis will be a

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<v Speaker 2>pick them in Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>What else can you make course two point favorites? Really? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a coin flip, Like, how can you it was

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<v Speaker 2>a favorite in this game? I mean maybe, so maybe

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<v Speaker 2>Indianapolis should be a chick because New England is terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming back board A guests looking for value numbers game

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<v Speaker 1>Nicotine is an addictive chemical. Gil Alexander Kelly Bidlett we

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<v Speaker 1>get tweets at beating the book. Always appreciate the feedback

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<v Speaker 1>in the reaction of everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Joey Sinante. As old as that Billy Walters commercial is

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<v Speaker 2>getting it still isn't worse than Pat Boone trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get me to buy silver and Gold that aired like

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<v Speaker 2>two years ago. That's very that's very true that Boone

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<v Speaker 2>is very insistent on it. Joe Abraham, you guys might

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<v Speaker 2>have already tried this, but an open invite to the

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<v Speaker 2>show for anyone who fit to submit their survivor pick

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<v Speaker 2>would be a fun segment if any accepted. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>great idea, and it is an open invitation. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>just say this, but God, I feel bad for those folks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, again, four non submissions in the month of November,

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<v Speaker 2>we're this far in and again, I just I always

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<v Speaker 2>worry about those people, like what's happening in their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna make a call and say I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear from those people because what either something

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<v Speaker 1>bad probably happened or they're pissed off. I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna make the call above your call and say,

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<v Speaker 2>call us, we wanted you on the show. Jud O'Connor

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<v Speaker 2>Colts last year in Panthers.

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<v Speaker 1>This year.

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<v Speaker 2>The malpractice Reich is performing to these NFL franchises should

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<v Speaker 2>make him as employable as McDaniels. Yeah, I wouldn't go

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<v Speaker 2>that far. I wouldn't go that far. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted Bryce Young. I think he wanted C. J. Stroud,

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<v Speaker 2>Phil Weiss, I guess your sixty percent rule only pertains

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<v Speaker 2>to everyone else. Well, Phil, the gentleman by the name

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<v Speaker 2>of it's not juice if you win, asked me directly.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why I gave the picks of what I

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<v Speaker 2>just had. I'm talking about moving forward. We're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about our sub sixty percent entries in any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of exciting, excitable way or excited way that we

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<v Speaker 2>might actually cash in this. But oh, if we get

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<v Speaker 2>above sixty percent, Kelly, all bets are off. Tom Collins,

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<v Speaker 2>Gil thank you for keeping the great Joe Gibbs as

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<v Speaker 2>the top NFL coach of the modern era. Coach Gibbs

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<v Speaker 2>won the three Super Bowls with three average quarterbacks. No

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<v Speaker 2>Hall of famers. That is correct, Sir Coach Belichick has won?

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<v Speaker 2>How many without Brady? That is also correct? By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>here's Brady's record, do we have that? Finally, Brady's record

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<v Speaker 2>without Bill Belichick eighty one ninety five for us is

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<v Speaker 2>at Belichick's record without Brady as as his quarterback eighty

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<v Speaker 2>one and ninety five straight up lifetime. Do you know

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<v Speaker 2>what Joe Gibbs's record is without Tom Brady? Three Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl titles? That's what his record is with Tom Brady.

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<v Speaker 2>Just we'll point that out. All right, Let's do more

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<v Speaker 2>of these. Let's get some value, Let's get some Let's

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<v Speaker 2>get some bets.

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<v Speaker 1>Early window on Sunday, ten Pacific time one Eastern Texans

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<v Speaker 1>at Bengals.

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<v Speaker 2>Texans four and four under Demico Ryans Bengals now five

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<v Speaker 2>and three after that win last night against the Buffalo Bills. Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, this was this a game of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Philly Dallas gave this, gave it a run,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm gonna say this was the game all the

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<v Speaker 2>day between Houston and Tampa Bay. Third play from scrimmage

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<v Speaker 2>Stroud to Schultz fumble sets up a McLauchlin thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>yard field go three to nothing Tampa and suing drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Houston goes seven play seventy five yards Stroud and Nico

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<v Speaker 2>Collins for fourteen seven to three Houston, then Tampa Bay

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five yards mayfield to Kate Otton from three yards

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<v Speaker 2>out of ten to seven. Tampa. We're still in the

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<v Speaker 2>first quarter. Teams trade three announce then after another Houston

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:31.719
<v Speaker 2>three and out, Bucks go forty yards on a shortfield

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<v Speaker 2>set up by an unsportsman like penalty on the punt

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<v Speaker 2>return for Sean White. Eventually in from one seventeen to

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<v Speaker 2>seven Tampa Bay nine oh five left the second quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>They got some cushion. Twenty to ten Tampa Bay third quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>now first play. Texans have the ball in the second half.

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<v Speaker 2>Stroud and Noah Brown for seventy five mostly yak but

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<v Speaker 2>with fair Baron hurt. We learned that Kyami Fairbairn got

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<v Speaker 2>hurt at some point in the first half with a

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<v Speaker 2>quad injury. Now, Kelly, I am no field goalologist or

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<v Speaker 2>kicker ologist, but I'm told a injury is important. He

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't go. So Houston down now twenty to sixteen. They

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<v Speaker 2>go for two because they don't have a kicker. People

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<v Speaker 2>are like, why they going for two? They're only down

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<v Speaker 2>for it they don't have a kicker. They failed, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, So it remains twenty to sixteen, twelve twenty

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<v Speaker 2>left and third quarter. Now it's twenty three to sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Tampa Bay's up a touchdown. Houston goes seventy nine yards

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<v Speaker 2>Stroud to Tank Dell from twenty nine out twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>to twenty two. Remember they have no kicker, so they

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<v Speaker 2>go for two. Stroud misfires intended for Dell again twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three twenty two. It remains five poin fifty nine left

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<v Speaker 2>in the third quarter. This was bananas after at Tampa

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:34.240
<v Speaker 2>Bay three. Now Houston gets to fourth and goal at

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<v Speaker 2>the Atlanta nine. Now, remember no kicker, but in this case,

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<v Speaker 2>no kicker, no problem. Stroud de Schultz touchdown two point

0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 2>conversion is good. Stroud takes it himself, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, Houston is up seven fourteen eleven ago. Tampa

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Bay comes right back, though, seventy five yards Mayfield to

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<v Speaker 2>Evans for fifty three, the big one, setting up a

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:54.399
<v Speaker 2>White one yard touchdown plunge thirty to thirty eleven forty

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 2>three to go. Houston ends up with a fourth and

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<v Speaker 2>goal at the eleven with eight forty eight left. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>no Miami, Fairbairn, no problem. Dara Ougunbowale a running back

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 2>twenty nine yard field goal. He's kicking the ball off

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<v Speaker 2>too after this good thirty three to thirty Texas eight

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:18.600
<v Speaker 2>forty one to go. Dare Ogunbowale is your kicker now.

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<v Speaker 2>Team's tage three and outs Houston with some fumblelock by

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:23.200
<v Speaker 2>the way, when Stroud got stripped on third and eighteen

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 2>at their own fourteen, but George Fant landed on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Always remember fumbleluck, boys and girls. Tampa Bay the matriculate,

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<v Speaker 2>starting at their thirty nine with four to twenty seven

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 2>to go, They're down three. They get to a third

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:35.680
<v Speaker 2>and twenty three at their own thirty eight with one

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 2>fifty five to go. Mayfield to Tray Palmer for twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Then four fourth and two at the Houston forty one

0:27:40.960 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Mayfield for a gutsy five yards. Three plays later, Mayfield

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<v Speaker 2>to Otten from fourteen out touchdown. Tampa Bay's gonna win

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 2>this forty six seconds to go, thirty seven thirty three bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty six seconds. What could happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, Stroud could happen. C. J. Stroud is Shills

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<v Speaker 2>for fourteen timeout Houston, then to Schultz for two final

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 2>timeout for Houston, then to Noah Brown for eighteen, then

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 2>to Tank Dell for twenty six tiptoeing the sidelines, then

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 2>to Dell in the end zone. Touchdown from fifteen out

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 2>six seconds to go thirty nine, thirty seven Houston. Here's

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.720
<v Speaker 2>the issue. A lot of people had Houston minus two

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 2>and a half. So all you gotta do is kick

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 2>the extra boy right right, But you don't have a kicker. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing on the two point conversion. You don't

0:28:30.680 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 2>want to risk something going nuts and fumbling and having

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 2>the Bucks return it for a two point score in

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 2>the other direction. So you know what Demko ryans absolutely

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>correctly does they kneel on the football. Oh, the conspiracy

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 2>theorists go crazy out there.

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.720
<v Speaker 1>But it was the correct football play, Yes, absolutely the

0:28:51.760 --> 0:28:52.200
<v Speaker 1>correct thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a smart play, by the way, touchback on the

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<v Speaker 2>kickoff from from your running back kicker. Now, Pitchy chi

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Wuo wou fails ballgame, Houston, Texas thirty nine Bucks thirty seven.

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Buccaneers get the money ats, but Houston gets the win.

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 2>Stroud thirty for forty two, a rookie record for seventy

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 2>five touchdowns with matches. A rookie record, by the way,

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 2>was not or did not throw a pick with sack

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 2>three times. Noah Brown six for one to fifty three

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 2>in a touchdown, Schultz ten for one thirty in a touchdown,

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Dell six for one to fourteen and two touchdowns. They

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 2>outgained Tampa Bay four ninety six to three thirty two

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 2>in a game where both teams combine for eighteen penalties

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 2>and two hundred and five yards. What a win for Houston.

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Let me just say this rookie of the year, Offensive

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<v Speaker 2>rookie of the year rest in peace.

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<v Speaker 1>It is CJ. Stroud's.

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<v Speaker 2>He is as high as anywhere between five dollars to

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 2>like seven dollars this morning, minus five hundred to minus

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<v Speaker 2>seven hundred. You are betting, You are betting against an injury.

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 2>If you're betting anybody else at this point with CJ. Stroud,

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<v Speaker 2>Good on him, Absolutely good on him.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are they playing again? That was that took forever?

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati? Uh yeah, Cincinnati, Cincinnati. Uh it deserved it, by

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 2>the way, what dramatic, real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, would you have kicked would you have kicked the

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>field goal?

0:30:10.640 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.120
<v Speaker 1>The extra point? You mean, no, the field goal that

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>they kicked with uh with or earlier in the quarter.

0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 2>But his name, yeah, yeah, I mean they know more

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 2>about him than I do, so they must have been

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:24.600
<v Speaker 2>confident enough that he could hit one inside thirty, which

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 2>he did.

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was the It was the exact like

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 1>example of Matt Brown freaking out about that nobody could kick.

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 2>But that's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if I'm a head coach, this is this

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>is not someone who I would think is regularly working

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>out with the special teams like you. All you've gotten

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.560
<v Speaker 1>to see I would think is six or seven kicks

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>during pregame workouts, you know whatever? I know? Was that

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the eleven yard line?

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 2>What else are you gonna do? Reason Matt Brown decided

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 2>to kick these field goals on the shows because he

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 2>couldn't believe a punter couldn't kick a twenty one years

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 2>someone on the team couldn't well punter specifically, right, Yeah,

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 2>and they could. They didn't have one apparently that.

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I was a little surprised, But they made Cincinnati beats

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Buffalo last night.

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 2>They traded touchdowns to the beginning of the game. Cincinnati

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 2>had the ball twice Buffalo once it was fourteen to seven.

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati was seconds left in the first quarter. Then they

0:31:10.160 --> 0:31:13.720
<v Speaker 2>traded punts. Buffalo down seven. They have a second and

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 2>ten at their own twelve. Allen was picked by cam

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Taylor Britt. That set up Cincinnati at the thirty two,

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 2>but they couldn't do anything with it. The second and

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 2>one at the twenty three no game and the delayed game,

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 2>then a hole and then off side Zach Cold false start. Anyway,

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 2>they had a punt, so still fourteen to seven, but

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 2>then Buffalo three and ount Cincinnati fourth and one at

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 2>the Buffalo thirty six with two thirty nine left in

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>the second quarter, They're up seven. Brow to Chase for eleven.

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Three plays later, Brow to Drew Sample for twenty two.

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Twenty one to seven, Cincinnati one thirty seven left in

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 2>the second quarter. That's how the half would end. After

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Allen was called for an intentional grounding that would knock

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Buffalo out of field goal range. Remember we saw that

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>earlier in the year with Gino Smith. It doesn't matter

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:53.479
<v Speaker 2>to the officials what your intention is as quarterback. If

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>you misread the play, if you don't know where the

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 2>wide receiver's gonna end up, they just care about where

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 2>the ball lands. Twenty one to seven at the half,

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Buffalo would get a Tyler bassfield goal to make it

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 2>twenty one to ten. A little later on Cincinnati fourth

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>and five at the Buffalo thirty seven with two twenty

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 2>one left the third quarter, they would only gain two

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 2>on a Burrow to sample pass. Buffalo got the ball back.

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 2>They would matriculate first and ten at the Cincinnati twenty

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.320
<v Speaker 2>two down eleven, Allen to Daltkin Gay though, and he fumbled.

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Though Cincinnati would get another twenty yard chip shot field

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 2>goal for McPherson to make it twenty four to ten.

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 2>And then Buffalo, you know, late in the game, twelve

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 2>plays seventy five yards they go took four to thirty two,

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Alan to Digs for seventeen. They went for two, and

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 2>they got it Allen to Diggs down eight down from

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 2>fourteen to eight. They went for two to make it six.

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 2>That made Buffalo a second half spread winner. But Buffalo

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 2>never saw the ball again and Cincinnati takes home the money. Preflop,

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 2>I will say Cincinnati minus seven in a hook at.

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Home againstkay So interesting. This opened like seven to seven

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>and a half. I think even got up to eight,

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>but it is back down to seven pretty much. A yeah,

0:32:55.800 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 1>eight at draftings earlier this morning is down seven.

0:32:58.120 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 2>More guesting lines on the other side, numbers came in

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 2>the Sports Betting Network skill Alexander we get tweets at

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 2>beating the book. A lot of people fascinated by the

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 2>fact that the whole punter kicker thing and the Matt

0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Brown like this is why Matt Brown went crazy about it.

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Tom Stephen says, I'll never understand why teams don't have

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 2>punters and kickers cross train as emergency backups. What else

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 2>do they do during the week? And Nash last name Mash.

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm officially on Matt Brown side of punters are useless

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 2>if they can't be utilized as your break glass backup kicker. Seriously,

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 2>why pay millions of dollars for these guys just to

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 2>punt the football, which only Ron Rivera gets gets joy

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 2>out of doing. Trip Tepper points out another another big

0:33:36.880 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 2>point in that Texans Bucks game. He said Bowles clock

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 2>management in the Texans Bucks game was atrocious. He burned

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 2>the final time out at forty nine seconds to avoid

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 2>a ten second runoff from Houston from the Houston fourteen.

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 2>You want less time in case you score next play touchdown.

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Bolls handed Houston two more plays with that decision, Stroud

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 2>touchdown with six seconds left, and then Shine the professor

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 2>did this just leave my screen there to shine the professor.

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Professor Shine said Bill Belichick had an impossible situation in Cleveland.

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.200
<v Speaker 2>No quarterback won a playoff game with testa verity all

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of Modell threatening to move the Browns,

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 2>which he did by announcing the move in the middle

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:14.640
<v Speaker 2>of Belichick's final season, Browns were top five defense. Yeah,

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:16.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying he's a terrible coach. He's a Hall

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:20.720
<v Speaker 2>of Famer. But I'll take the guy again just comparing

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 2>him to because we have this discussion through the lens

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 2>of Bruce Bochie last week. Is Bruce Bochie the greatest

0:34:27.440 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 2>manager of our lifetime just like Joe Gibbs the greatest coach? Yes,

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:35.520
<v Speaker 2>because the both of them won multiple titles with nothing

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 2>like there's not a kid who's twenty five years old.

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:39.879
<v Speaker 2>Do you think there's a kid who's twenty five years

0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 2>old today that can name one of those Washington players,

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:46.440
<v Speaker 2>one of them seriously Rigo maybe so nobody again won

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 2>three Super Bowls, One with a quarterback who no one

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 2>in the NFL wanted and had to blame in the CFL,

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 2>or at least Miami didn't want him in Joe Thaisman,

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 2>One with a guy who nobody in the NFL wanted

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:00.879
<v Speaker 2>in Doug Williams. Maybe for other reas by the way

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.439
<v Speaker 2>at that time. And then one with a six round

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 2>draft pick at a wazoo by the name of Mark Rippin.

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Again just named the quarterbacks. I'll take that guy. He

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 2>had strike seasons to overcome, he had teams that he had.

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 2>He took Scabs to a three and zero record that

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 2>movies were made of. So anyway, we could have that

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 2>argument forever. But I'll go with the Bochees and the

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 2>Gibbs of the world. Okay, what's next? Saints at Viking,

0:35:23.040 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Saints at Vikings.

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 1>All right, Saints at Vikings.

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:29.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh, this is a sneaky good game. Yep five and

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 2>four Saints five and four Vikings. Derek Carr in that

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.399
<v Speaker 2>win over the Bears yesterday was twenty five and thirty

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 2>four for two to eleven, two touchdowns, No picks. He

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 2>was sacked zero times. Taysom Hill one one pass completed,

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 2>one for one for three yards and a touchdown, eleven

0:35:46.600 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 2>carries for fifty two yards and four catches for thirteen

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 2>in a touchdown. Taysom Hill becomes the fifth player to

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 2>join the NFL's ten ten ten club, ten passing touchdowns,

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:58.920
<v Speaker 2>ten receiving touchdowns, and ten rushing touchdowns. Mazeltov to Taysom Hill.

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I did not catch it. Becomes the fourth place, fifth, fifth.

0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:04.879
<v Speaker 1>There's four other guys that have done this.

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'll get you the names on the.

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.919
<v Speaker 1>Break, like past the year nineteen thirty eight. I don't

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>know what year it's past.

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm just telling you.

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Past the year. I don't know.

0:36:17.360 --> 0:36:19.680
<v Speaker 2>He outgained They were outgained by Chicago. New Orleans was

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 2>three sixty eight to three on one but plus five

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 2>and turnovers, as we mentioned yesterday, plus five that led

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 2>to plus ten New Orleans net points, but the last

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 2>three of those turnovers in the fourth quarters, timing any

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:31.399
<v Speaker 2>chance Chicago had to come back from their twenty four

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 2>to seventeen deficit. But again we showed that record earlier

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 2>from the Gentleman Fabe in summer over at the hammer,

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 2>which is you can't cover with plus five and turnovers

0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 2>it's so rare. And then there's the Minnesota Vikings. What

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 2>a story this was yesterday Josh Dobbs who got there

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 2>a second and a half ago, which is the second

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 2>time this year that Josh Jobs has gotten somewhere a

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 2>second and a half ago and had a start for

0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 2>it was his fifteen Josh Jobbs is fifteen since November

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 2>of last year, since Week fifteen of last year.

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>This is fifteen. Sitting all Week two wondering why the

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.360
<v Speaker 1>hell do you like? Vikings? You really believe you really

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 1>you traded for Josh Jobs like you really believe this

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:13.720
<v Speaker 1>is going to give your team this much of a boost.

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:15.879
<v Speaker 1>They didn't even need to give the guy a full

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>week of practice.

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think they knew. I think they knew this

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:20.719
<v Speaker 2>is if they're going to go for it. This was

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 2>exactly the guy to get right. Vikings thirty one, Falcons

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:24.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight. But we thought we were getting cheer in

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:27.799
<v Speaker 2>Hall this week for the full game. Teams traded punts

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 2>and field goals to start the game, but on one

0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 2>play before the Minnesota field goal to tie it at three,

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 2>jer in Hall hit on his try to get in

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 2>the end zone. Hurt ruled out almost immediately or at

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:41.560
<v Speaker 2>least a few plays after that, and Joshua Dobbs makes

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.279
<v Speaker 2>his debut. He didn't even know Kelly, didn't even know

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 2>his teammates' names in some cases. After in Atlanta punt

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota at their own five Dobs sacked by Kalas Campbell

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 2>in the end zone safety five to three Atlanta fourteen

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 2>oh one left second quarter, then an eight to three

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 2>game Atlanta's a first intend of their own twenty six

0:37:56.600 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Dobbs hit by Arnold Ebiquity fumbles, Lorenzo Carter recovers returns

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 2>at nineteen yards, but the Minnesota defense held, led to

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 2>another coup field goal eleven to three Atlanta.

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:07.880
<v Speaker 1>All Right.

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Vikings then go seventy five yards set up by a

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:13.520
<v Speaker 2>third and eleven conversion by Hobbs from the Atlanta fourteen

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:17.360
<v Speaker 2>where next Gen had him going fifty nine point seven

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 2>yards on the scramble was unbelievable. And then Hobbs to

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Madison from two out two plays later, eleven to ten Atlanta.

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:26.920
<v Speaker 2>What a play by Dopps And you thought, well, he

0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 2>can't make a better play than that.

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:31.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, he could third quarter, fourth to when we

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 1>hit halftime, When we hit halftime, smash Atlanta second half?

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me? Smashed you smash?

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we're the scores in this situation. Josh Dobbs

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.520
<v Speaker 1>has been there for four days. He doesn't know these guys' names,

0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't know plays. I know he's been great all year.

0:38:46.680 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>The heck with that, I don't even like Atlanta. Smash

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.040
<v Speaker 1>Atlanta second half? What did you do to Atlanta? Second half? Smash?

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Third quarter? Fourteen to thirteen Atlanta. Now Atlanta goes seventy

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 2>five yards sixty on an almost all yak touchdown pass

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 2>from Heineken to Johnny Smith or as we're calling him now,

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:02.799
<v Speaker 2>twenty one to thirteen, Atlanta six to fifty two left

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 2>third quarter.

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:04.240
<v Speaker 1>Heineke's going crazy.

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Then, after Minnesota three and out, Atlanta first play, first

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 2>and ten at their own eighteen bijon hit by Caleb

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Avans fumbles, Joshua Tellis recovers Minnesota short field of the

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:16.399
<v Speaker 2>Atlanta forty six plays Dobs in from eighteen. I love

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 2>when he does that. Did it for the Cardinals a

0:39:18.480 --> 0:39:20.440
<v Speaker 2>lot too, twenty one to nineteen, and then on the

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 2>two points.

0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:22.360
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't know the place, kills us. That's all he

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 1>can do.

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Hobbs the Tristan Jackson on the two sub version. We're

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:27.439
<v Speaker 2>tied at twenty one with two twenty left of the third.

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Then Heinik throws a pick on the very first play

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 2>of the ensuing drive Byron Murphy Junior on the other

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 2>because of course he does. That leads to a Joseph

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:36.200
<v Speaker 2>thirty one yard field goal twenty four to twenty one

0:39:36.239 --> 0:39:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota with fourteen eighteen to go. Then, after the team's

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 2>trade punts, Atlanta goes eighty yards, including a third and

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 2>eight Heinike conversion with his feet, then Algier eventually in

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:49.040
<v Speaker 2>from five out. Atlanta takes the lead twenty eight twenty

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 2>four with two o eight to go, and the people

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 2>who smashed Didntlant are feeling good.

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, this is perfect now where we left with

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:58.000
<v Speaker 1>such limited time, he doesn't know the place, doesn't know

0:39:58.040 --> 0:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the names. He can't possibly pull this off.

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Gil Minnesota ends up with a fourth and seven at

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.360
<v Speaker 2>the Atlanta thirty four with fifty two seconds to go.

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 2>You're feeling good, it is I just need one stop,

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:10.280
<v Speaker 2>one stop, and then Joshua Hobbs with an impossible twenty

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 2>two yard scramble. Oh it's happened, t bo Joshua Dobbs.

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.320
<v Speaker 2>So I keep saying Hobbs, yes, oh like three times.

0:40:16.920 --> 0:40:18.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh you know what, because it's in my thing.

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I had to change way eight. You'll a big Hobbs

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 1>and show.

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Joshua Dobbs. I'm so sorry. Joshua Dobbs with an

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 2>impossible twenty two yard scramble. Impossible, first and ten at

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.120
<v Speaker 2>the Atlanta twelve, with thirty nine seconds to go, down

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 2>four incomplete to Hocketson for six, then the branded Powell

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 2>for the remaining six touchdown. Minnesota thirty one, twenty eight,

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 2>twenty two seconds to go. That's how it would end.

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Dobbs twenty of thirty for one fifty eight, two touchdowns,

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:44.760
<v Speaker 2>no pikes. He was sack three times seven for sixty

0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:46.880
<v Speaker 2>six on the ground a touchdown. He did lose two fumbles.

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:52.879
<v Speaker 2>Minnesota beats Atlanta thirty one to twenty eight, Minnesota by

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 2>one and a half. I'll split the difference between pick

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:55.760
<v Speaker 2>him in a three.

0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:59.479
<v Speaker 1>This is the biggest Dobbs so far this year, Gil

0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:02.040
<v Speaker 1>the number one it is. What did you just say?

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>What was your guest Minnesota minus one and a half,

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Saints minus two and a half. Oh, the wrong team's favorite.

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>You had one, I couldn't remember which one.

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Let me just ask you this. Okay, I know we're

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to be a second game here, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>let me ask you that when you think of Derek Carr,

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<v Speaker 2>when the average person thinks of Derek Carr, is it

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<v Speaker 2>am I correct when I say they think of Derek

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Carr as not an elite quarterback, but a better than

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<v Speaker 2>average NFL quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Slightly better than that, better than Jimmy Garoppolo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay, when they think of Joshua Dobbs. Forget about

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Joshua Hobbs for a second. But when they think about

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Joshua Dobbs, do you think that the average person thinks

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<v Speaker 2>of josh Dobbs as a journeyman, pick up off the

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 2>scrap heap, below average, slightly below average, but feist the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL quarter Yeah?

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 1>I think you just described him perfectly. I have the

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 1>opposite opinion of both.

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 2>I think josh I would take josh Dobbs over Derek

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Carr ten out of ten times at the end at

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:05.839
<v Speaker 2>the ends of any NFL game, because Derek cart I'm

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:09.600
<v Speaker 2>going back to his his Raiders day. Historically, whenever there's

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 2>a key decision to be made late in the game,

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:15.400
<v Speaker 2>he always makes the wrong one. Not always, but usually

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 2>makes the wrong one. Josh Dobbs, I don't care what uniform.

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 2>We've seen him in Tennessee's, Arizona's now with the Vikings.

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 2>He is always making plays. The Saints could win this game,

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:32.520
<v Speaker 2>but they shouldn't be favored. I think the Vikings should

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 2>be favored. Yeah, I can't. I doubt I'll be getting

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 2>involved in this. I think it's interesting to say. I

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 2>hear what you're saying. Huge football game for both. Yeah,

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 2>it's a huge game. I like, well, I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>snickered when you first.

0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 1>That's sneaky because I think for us as better as

0:42:45.280 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 1>you don't think of like, yeah, you just look at records.

0:42:47.040 --> 0:42:49.880
<v Speaker 1>They're five and four. Both these seeds are five and four. Yeah,

0:42:50.120 --> 0:42:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Dobbs has been incredible. He is the ultimate so far

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>this season. Nobody else that I can put higher on

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.759
<v Speaker 1>my list of sir. I must tip my cap to

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:02.359
<v Speaker 1>you because you have beaten me soundly betting against you

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:05.320
<v Speaker 1>and proven me time time and time again that I

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be doing this. Sorry.

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:10.359
<v Speaker 2>When I put in Dobbs and my notes, it autocorrects

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<v Speaker 2>to Hobbes. Apparently they don't like the name dogs and

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 2>so that I ron bergery through it. By apologies to

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Joshua Dobbs in the entire Dobbs family, because I love you, man,

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:21.840
<v Speaker 2>and that's a bet. That's a bet for me. Minnesota

0:43:22.680 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch more games to get to.

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 1>We will do so.

0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 2>On the other side, the numbers told the story they

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 2>always done.

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:30.799
<v Speaker 1>It's on those idiots who believe in the analytics.

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0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.319
<v Speaker 2>It's Kelly Bidlin guessing lines for week number ten in

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.239
<v Speaker 2>the National Football League, trying to extract value and exercise

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 2>that has worked splendidly, with the exception of one week

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:02.439
<v Speaker 2>thus far this year. Splendidly, we had tweets at beating

0:44:02.440 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 2>the book Torch. D bought my uncle a jem Mint

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 2>ten C. J. Stroud card for his birthday a few

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:09.680
<v Speaker 2>months ago.

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Kind of want that back now. I don't blame you

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<v Speaker 1>towards D.

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Shine still wants to do the Gibbs Belichick still Gibbs

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Belichick debate. I love you, Shine. Gibbs had Bobby Bethard

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 2>as the GM. True Bethard was responsible for players and

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:30.760
<v Speaker 2>was very savvy with old it rules it. When Bethard

0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:32.400
<v Speaker 2>went to San Diego, that's how we got Stan Humphys.

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 2>Also Ripping was on the eighty seven and active rush.

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh you don't have to tell me Seane never played

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:38.360
<v Speaker 2>until nineteen ninety. Not allowed to stockpile.

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Quarterbacks, on and on.

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Belichick needs a new GM. He says, yes, he

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 2>should fire himself as a GEM, that's for sure. If

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, would we all know what's going on?

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Right? He's just waiting until he gets that wins record

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:51.359
<v Speaker 1>and then it's see you later.

0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you hear the Who was the rumor? Someone started

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:57.800
<v Speaker 2>the rumor that he would end up in Washington, speaking

0:44:57.800 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 2>of conflating the two things. That the next year, Josh

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Harris heard a couple of Yeah, by the way, really quick,

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 2>did you see the Glazier report on this Raiders stuff

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.239
<v Speaker 2>speaking of the Patriots? Oh, what was that? That that

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:10.960
<v Speaker 2>they just love?

0:45:11.000 --> 0:45:12.920
<v Speaker 1>They went crazy when they won and they had a

0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:15.400
<v Speaker 1>grievance airing of grievances and they hate Josh McDaniels. Oh

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 1>it was like McDaniels. No, No, like McDaniels asking Antonio

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Peers to like make a speech to the Go see Glazers.

0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Go to his twitter see what he actually said. But

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 1>like asked Antonio Piers to like give a speech to

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.439
<v Speaker 1>the players to kind of help HiPE him up after

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 1>they're playing bad. Right, He's not able to get through

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:37.359
<v Speaker 1>to the players, so he uses is an inexacriate thing

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 1>of the Giants beating the Patriots, and McDaniels pulls him

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 1>aside afterward and says, never do that again. Yeah, never

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 1>do that again. Got upstairs to Mark Davis. Good for you,

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Mark Davis. I've turned a corner.

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 2>I believe that report, and I did hear that report.

0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:52.839
<v Speaker 2>I believe that report more than I believe the one

0:45:52.880 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 2>that came out last week. Do you see that one thing?

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:58.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that the one you said, Mark.

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 2>Davis gave him a fortune cookie after he dressed up

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 2>as Mark Davis, Josh McDaniels and Halloween, and in the

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:07.879
<v Speaker 2>fortune cookie, the fortune said nice, nice job, hotshot, you're

0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 2>fired or whatever. There's all kinds of rumors coming, but

0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:13.239
<v Speaker 2>there was a tweet from some guy this is this

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 2>is Jay Glazer and this is legit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, believe me. I completely believe that's with the Raiders.

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:19.480
<v Speaker 1>You believe that any.

0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Hard about the Patriots like him going crazy about that,

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 2>I'd fire him too.

0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:25.839
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. They should have been fired on the spot, Like

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:27.440
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking? You don't you don't coach for

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:29.719
<v Speaker 1>that team anymore. Get out of the billshit been fired

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:30.399
<v Speaker 1>way before. That.

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Shouldn't take that, Doug Wedge, Dobbs, Hobbs, doesn't matter that

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:35.840
<v Speaker 2>both miracle workers. By the way, he's showing a picture

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:39.720
<v Speaker 2>of a Robert Redford as Hobbs from the Natural. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>our poll question of the hour, Kelly, give him pole questions.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, if I could figure out how to do

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:45.239
<v Speaker 1>a poll on Twitter, I'm gonna tell me to do it.

0:46:45.320 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 1>But otherwise just tweet it. If you hear Gil Alexander say,

0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Hobbs during guessing lines, do you think the natural or

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 1>do you think fast to the furious? That's right, it's

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna give us our ultimate answer of how old is

0:46:56.640 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 1>our audience?

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<v Speaker 2>Master of Puppets. Losing my Atlanta bet was probably one

0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 2>of the best bad beats in my life. Never understood

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 2>why Atlanta did not put a spy on Dobbs. David

0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Burns don't care what Josh Dobbs does the rest of

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:09.919
<v Speaker 2>his career. The guys a winner and makes the most

0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:11.840
<v Speaker 2>of his ability. Arizona got rid of him because you

0:47:11.880 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 2>cannot tank with a guy like him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a shot. All right, let's roll through a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch swait. Here we go, early window Packers at Steelers.

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:20.600
<v Speaker 2>All right, Packers beat the Rams yesterday, the three and

0:47:20.719 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 2>five Packers at the five and three Kelly, five and three,

0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Pittsburgh Steelers, Green Bay and the Rams yesterday. Pittsburgh obviously

0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:32.320
<v Speaker 2>coming off extra rest. Here they're lost to Jacksonville on Thursday,

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:33.880
<v Speaker 2>and I have a green Bay. After a trade of punts,

0:47:34.040 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Brett Rippin first and tend at the green Bay forty

0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:38.560
<v Speaker 2>five three thirty two left in the first quarter. He fumbled,

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:42.280
<v Speaker 2>regained possession, sacked by Jonathan Owens fumbled again, Devandre Campbell

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:45.000
<v Speaker 2>recovered green Bay shortfield forty one yards. Jones in from

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:47.319
<v Speaker 2>three seven to zh in green Bay early second quarter,

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 2>seven to three at halftime, after Lucas Haversik made a

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:52.400
<v Speaker 2>fifty two yarder for the Rams and Carlson missed a

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:55.360
<v Speaker 2>forty eight yarder. Third quarter ten to three. Excuse me,

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:57.840
<v Speaker 2>seven to three still, Aaron Jones fumble led to a

0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Rams Haversick forty nine yard try, which he missed. The

0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:02.840
<v Speaker 2>green Bay matriculated, but on third and two at the

0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:04.879
<v Speaker 2>Rams four they got stopped by an Aaron Donald Zach

0:48:05.160 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Carlton twenty six yard field goal made it ten to

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:08.880
<v Speaker 2>three with two ten left in the third quarter.

0:48:08.680 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Real Barnburner here.

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:11.719
<v Speaker 2>Rams turned it over on downs pack three and out

0:48:11.800 --> 0:48:14.120
<v Speaker 2>ripping picked by Anthony Johnson Junior, led to a Carlson

0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 2>thirty four yard field goal to make it thirteen to three,

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 2>and then after a Rams three and out, green Bay

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.359
<v Speaker 2>went seventy two yards loved to Luke Musgrave from twenty out,

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty to three green Bay. That's how it would end.

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Love twenty of twenty six for two twenty eight. They

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:27.080
<v Speaker 2>outgained the Rams three ninety one to one eighty seven.

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.440
<v Speaker 2>You know how I was saying the Rams wouldn't you

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 2>know Puka wouldn't be affected by Stafford being out?

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was wrong.

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:35.080
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was Mark Rippin going back to our

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:36.120
<v Speaker 2>previous conversation and.

0:48:36.080 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Not brentwib There you go, that would have helped out

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:39.399
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. That's where I am.

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:42.399
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have any action in this game, by the way, either,

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 2>but the Rams were horrific.

0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:46.320
<v Speaker 1>I feel also feel like I got a little about you.

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:48.000
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like I saw about seven plays from

0:48:48.000 --> 0:48:49.240
<v Speaker 1>this game. Yes as well?

0:48:50.040 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 2>That said Green Bay at Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh minus four. I'll

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:54.640
<v Speaker 2>say it's more than a field goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Close it is, it's three and a half. Three and

0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:56.719
<v Speaker 1>a half.

0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like if Pittsburgh's going to win one

0:49:00.120 --> 0:49:02.600
<v Speaker 2>game handily this year, this might be it.

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:05.239
<v Speaker 1>I agree with Yeah, I agree with that. What's that?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Let's keep rolling. Titans at Bucks. Titans three

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:12.520
<v Speaker 1>and five, Titans.

0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:16.400
<v Speaker 2>At the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who are also three and five.

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Who did I say played Thursday night? I got that wrong,

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:21.880
<v Speaker 2>by the way, Pittsburgh played Tennessee.

0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:22.160
<v Speaker 1>On Thursday night.

0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 2>Not I said Jacksonville, Jacksonville, How to buy Tennessee. They

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:27.719
<v Speaker 2>played so Tennessee with the extra rest here at Tampa Bay,

0:49:27.719 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 2>who lost that unbelievable game to Houston. As we talked about,

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Mayfield was twenty one of thirty for two sixty five

0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:35.600
<v Speaker 2>two touchdowns. No Pixie was sacked twice in that loss,

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:39.719
<v Speaker 2>where again Houston relied on a running back to kick

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:41.839
<v Speaker 2>a field goal and kick off for them. Tampa Bay

0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:45.279
<v Speaker 2>minus three? What else could it be? Tampa Bay minus one?

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:48.319
<v Speaker 2>I guess it'll could I guess it could be minus one.

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:50.240
<v Speaker 2>You're not giving Billy Levi's enough credit.

0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:51.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:54.759
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just I was a lazy guess of

0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:57.320
<v Speaker 2>minus three, but it gave me really interested in betting

0:49:57.360 --> 0:49:58.239
<v Speaker 2>no at all.

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:01.719
<v Speaker 1>These two teams with the quarterbacks switch in Tennessee and

0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Tampa is gonna be there. Look, they're a tough, grinded

0:50:05.840 --> 0:50:07.759
<v Speaker 1>out three and five is an appropriate record for it.

0:50:07.800 --> 0:50:09.399
<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna be good, They're not gonna be great,

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 1>But when you're talking the NFC South, they're also not horrible.

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 2>This may get the what game do you want? No

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:14.800
<v Speaker 2>part of choice?

0:50:14.840 --> 0:50:18.400
<v Speaker 1>This week it's it's a mixed for what's forty Niners

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:23.440
<v Speaker 1>at Jags probably game game awake five and three Niners

0:50:23.520 --> 0:50:26.280
<v Speaker 1>six and two, Jags both coming off a bye.

0:50:27.760 --> 0:50:29.120
<v Speaker 2>San Francisco minus.

0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Three confirmed game of the week. By way to make sure,

0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 1>shop around right now. This is a big two and

0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 1>a half three two and a half's and three is

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 1>widely available. So if you're looking to get involved early,

0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 1>shop around because it is two and a half or three.

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about you, gil this one. This one's tough.

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I might be sitting on the sidelines for this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Power rankings are gonna be awfully interesting this week.

0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I think if you're if you're telling me I'm catching

0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:59.040
<v Speaker 1>a full field goal plus because I have a feeling

0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Niners are gonna take more this week. I think it's

0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:03.959
<v Speaker 1>gonna be hard. It'd be Jags or pass.

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:05.960
<v Speaker 2>This is a step up in competition for Jackson.

0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh, it is big town, big time. Absolutely, let's squeeze

0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:10.440
<v Speaker 1>it one. Brown's at Ravens.

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty good game too. Browns are five and three,

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:15.000
<v Speaker 2>the Ravens are seven to two. The Ravens should be

0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:17.120
<v Speaker 2>nine to zero, and they're the only team you can

0:51:17.160 --> 0:51:17.760
<v Speaker 2>say that about.

0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Quite frankly.

0:51:19.480 --> 0:51:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Browns there's really not much to say about this game.

0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:25.160
<v Speaker 2>They played Arizona yesterday three to zero. They're up three

0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:28.040
<v Speaker 2>to nothing. First intend at their own forty for Arizona,

0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:31.359
<v Speaker 2>down three to nothing. I should say now Clayton tune

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:33.719
<v Speaker 2>picked by Denzel Ward that led to an eleven play

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:37.560
<v Speaker 2>forty nine yard drive for Cleveland. Watson passed deflected high

0:51:37.640 --> 0:51:39.520
<v Speaker 2>in the air, caught by Cooper in the end zone

0:51:39.560 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 2>for an eleven yard touchdown, ten to nothing Cleveland six

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:44.240
<v Speaker 2>forty eight left in the second quarter, would be thirteen

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:46.320
<v Speaker 2>to nothing at halftime. By the way, the halftime yardage

0:51:46.360 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 2>advantage was one ninety three.

0:51:48.280 --> 0:51:51.440
<v Speaker 1>To thirty one. Is that good for Arizona.

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Third quarter first and ten from the air for Arizona

0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:55.399
<v Speaker 2>at their own twenty nine thirty eight left and third

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:58.800
<v Speaker 2>quarter two sacked by Shelby Harris fumbles Miles Garrett recovered

0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:01.480
<v Speaker 2>three plays. There are he plays later watsonton joke to

0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Najoku from five out, twenty to nothing Cleveland, there's no

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:06.120
<v Speaker 2>need to go on. Browns would end up winning at

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:08.359
<v Speaker 2>twenty seven to nothing. Watson nineteen of thirty for two

0:52:08.480 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 2>nineteen two touchdowns, no Picksley with sack once Cooper five

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:13.879
<v Speaker 2>for one thirty nine in a touchdown. The Browns held

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Arizona to seven first downs, one of twelve on third downs,

0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 2>fifty eight total yards, seventeen of which were passing, and

0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:24.239
<v Speaker 2>they were plus three in turnovers, which led to plus

0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 2>fourteen Cleveland points net point. Did it tell us anything

0:52:28.160 --> 0:52:31.040
<v Speaker 2>about the Browns? Not a damn thing. By the way,

0:52:31.040 --> 0:52:35.080
<v Speaker 2>If the Cardinals keep playing Clayton tune, my God, and

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:38.400
<v Speaker 2>then there's Baltimore, well it's an interesting Yeah, supposed to

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:40.759
<v Speaker 2>be Kyler Murray this week, though we led to what

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:42.480
<v Speaker 2>we're led to believe at this moment.

0:52:42.600 --> 0:52:44.719
<v Speaker 1>I love going back to that tweet. What you want

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you want to get rid of Dobbs, because yes, you

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:49.000
<v Speaker 1>want to tank, but you bring Kyler Murray in. Is

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:50.719
<v Speaker 1>he gonna mess that up? No idea. But at the

0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 1>same time, you got to show him off if you're

0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:54.680
<v Speaker 1>going to try to trade him, bro, do you really no?

0:52:55.880 --> 0:53:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Cleveland's at Baltimore? Baltimore? Is this team is the Super

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Bowl represented from the a representative from the AFC staring

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:07.719
<v Speaker 2>in our face all this time Baltimore against Seattle yester day.

0:53:07.719 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 2>If the team's traded punts twice on Seattle punted yet again.

0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore went eighty one yards on twelve plays spanning the

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:14.919
<v Speaker 2>end of the first and the start of the second quarter,

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:17.160
<v Speaker 2>gus in from four to seven to nothing, Baltimore thirteen

0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 2>oh six left in the second quarter. After the team's

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:22.200
<v Speaker 2>traded turnovers, Gino was picked by Gino Stone, then Lamar

0:53:22.320 --> 0:53:24.480
<v Speaker 2>was sacked by Boye Mafe and fumbled. Seattle then went

0:53:24.520 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 2>three and out. Then Baltimore went eighty four yards guss

0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:29.839
<v Speaker 2>in from three fourteen to nothing, Baltimore two thirty nine

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:32.719
<v Speaker 2>left second quarter, fourteen to three. Game, Now fifty nine

0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:34.440
<v Speaker 2>seconds left in the second quarter, You're like, well, this

0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:37.720
<v Speaker 2>half's gonna end. No teams traded turnovers again. First Lamart

0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:40.200
<v Speaker 2>to Obj hit by Trey Brownie fumbles, then Bobby and

0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:42.799
<v Speaker 2>Wagner recovered that. Then Seattle set up at Baltimore forty

0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:44.680
<v Speaker 2>three with forty nine seconds left in the half. Three

0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:47.080
<v Speaker 2>plays later, Gino sacked by Kyle van Noi heat fumbles.

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Broderick Washington recovers. Baltimore then set up at the Seattle

0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:52.320
<v Speaker 2>thirty six with thirty three seconds left in the quarter.

0:53:52.680 --> 0:53:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Leads to a Tucker thirty seven yard field well seventeen

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:57.279
<v Speaker 2>to three Ravens at the half. Two thirty eight to

0:53:57.440 --> 0:53:59.960
<v Speaker 2>eighty nine total yards advantage for Baltimore at half time,

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:02.400
<v Speaker 2>then twenty three to three after two Tuckerfield goals and

0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:05.480
<v Speaker 2>two Seattle three and outs. Keaton Mitchell the speedster from

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:08.560
<v Speaker 2>forty out, thirty to three Baltimore. With twenty nine seconds

0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:10.680
<v Speaker 2>left in third quarter, they'd add a Huntley, who was

0:54:10.719 --> 0:54:13.880
<v Speaker 2>in for Lamar at that point, to obj touchdown, thirty

0:54:13.920 --> 0:54:16.440
<v Speaker 2>seven to three Baltimore. By the way Baltimore kneeled on

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:17.839
<v Speaker 2>it at the end, or it would have been worse

0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:20.359
<v Speaker 2>on the scoreboard. That's your final thirty seven to three

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:25.279
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore over Seattle, who's a playoff contender and a top

0:54:25.400 --> 0:54:28.359
<v Speaker 2>ten fringe, top ten Power ranked team. Lamar twenty one

0:54:28.360 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 2>of twenty six for one eighty seven, no touchdowns, no

0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 2>picksy but sack once ten for sixty with a fumble

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 2>lost on the ground. Keaton Mitchell nine for one thirty

0:54:35.120 --> 0:54:37.719
<v Speaker 2>eight in a touchdown they held Seattle. Baltimore did to

0:54:37.840 --> 0:54:40.520
<v Speaker 2>six first downs, one of twelve on third and they

0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:43.879
<v Speaker 2>outgained them five point fifteen to one fifty one, two

0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:45.120
<v Speaker 2>ninety eight to twenty eight.

0:54:45.160 --> 0:54:47.680
<v Speaker 1>On the ground two ninety eight to twenty eight. This

0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:50.040
<v Speaker 1>was Detroit all over. I mean, this was they were

0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:50.719
<v Speaker 1>post This.

0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:54.000
<v Speaker 2>Just sounded like what we just read about Cleveland and Arizona.

0:54:54.719 --> 0:54:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore by four and a half.

0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Six Yeah, bad, guess six makes sense.

0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Think there are five and a half still out there

0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:07.719
<v Speaker 1>and open Baltimore might go to the super Bowl.

0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Dude, like you don't trust Lamar in the playoffs the video,

0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't trust them, But the way they run their offense,

0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:15.359
<v Speaker 2>I like, right now more than guess. NFL Week ten

0:55:15.440 --> 0:55:20.040
<v Speaker 2>coming up, it's skill Alexander's Kelly Bidlintle live from bar

0:55:20.120 --> 0:55:23.319
<v Speaker 2>Canada at the d Back to that Baltimore thing for

0:55:23.360 --> 0:55:25.960
<v Speaker 2>a second. So there's seven and two. They ought to

0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:27.799
<v Speaker 2>be nine to Oh. They have no business losing the

0:55:27.800 --> 0:55:30.560
<v Speaker 2>two games they lost. If I said to you right now,

0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:33.239
<v Speaker 2>the common question that like non betters would ask of you.

0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:34.879
<v Speaker 1>Hey, who's gonna be in the super Bowl this year?

0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Right now?

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Bam, who's your Super Bowl teams? You're timing down Bengals

0:55:40.600 --> 0:55:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Eagles for I think it's Bengals or Ravens Now in

0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:47.400
<v Speaker 2>the AFC. I really do believe it's the Bengals. Of

0:55:47.440 --> 0:55:47.960
<v Speaker 2>the Ravens.

0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to it, and I still think it's

0:55:50.719 --> 0:55:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the Niners in the NFC.

0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, I gotta think the Ravens are the team that

0:55:56.120 --> 0:55:59.319
<v Speaker 2>we people sleep on and even off air we were

0:55:59.360 --> 0:56:03.360
<v Speaker 2>just talking. You just can't buy into Lamar Jackson. I

0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:03.759
<v Speaker 2>just can't.

0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:06.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's always driven me nuts because he's extremely talented.

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 1>It's just, hey, it's kind of it's similar to Josh

0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Allen in Buffalo. Right. It's the it's whenever Baltimore's had

0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:15.719
<v Speaker 1>a good defense in a good running game, which they

0:56:16.000 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 1>seem to be back to this year, more than we

0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:20.960
<v Speaker 1>really thought they were going to be heading into the season. Right.

0:56:21.280 --> 0:56:24.800
<v Speaker 1>It's just these games, you know. And I guess Dallas

0:56:24.840 --> 0:56:27.120
<v Speaker 1>would be a fair comp this year too. It's when

0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:29.319
<v Speaker 1>they can play from ahead and Lamar doesn't have to

0:56:30.120 --> 0:56:32.040
<v Speaker 1>they don't have to go into desperation mode with him

0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:34.520
<v Speaker 1>throwing the ball a lot more, which opens him up

0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:38.600
<v Speaker 1>more to turnovers and turnover plays. I mean that they

0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:41.120
<v Speaker 1>just when they can control that part of the game,

0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:44.239
<v Speaker 1>then they seem dominant and they seem hard to beat.

0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:48.080
<v Speaker 1>No team has dominated good opponents like they have. No nobody,

0:56:48.080 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and I know I can't. There's no part of that

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I can argue you. Even saying about how they could

0:56:52.360 --> 0:56:54.480
<v Speaker 1>should be undefeated, I can't argue that at all. I

0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:57.640
<v Speaker 1>absolutely can't argue that. It's just we have not seen

0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:01.360
<v Speaker 1>we haven't seen Lamar Jackson really yet of in the

0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:04.239
<v Speaker 1>big moment having make the big plays time and time

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:06.800
<v Speaker 1>again without making those turnovers. And that's what concerned.

0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 2>We'll see if they have to get into that situation. Yeah,

0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:10.560
<v Speaker 2>all right, let's reel off a few more here.

0:57:10.600 --> 0:57:12.279
<v Speaker 1>All right, we are into the late window. Four or

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:14.840
<v Speaker 1>five Eastern Falcons at Cardinals.

0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Four and five Falcons at Arizona one in eight. Now,

0:57:19.120 --> 0:57:22.520
<v Speaker 2>by the way, those two adjustice season win totals. Plays

0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:25.240
<v Speaker 2>that I gave out last week had good weeks. Cincinnati

0:57:25.280 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 2>to the over on the Justice Saeson win total, Atlanta

0:57:27.840 --> 0:57:30.680
<v Speaker 2>to the under. So hope people jumped on that. Atlanta

0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Taylor Heineke in defeat twenty one of thirty eight for

0:57:34.600 --> 0:57:37.240
<v Speaker 2>two sixty eight, one touchdown, one pick. He was sacked

0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:43.000
<v Speaker 2>once in Atlanta's loss to the Minnesota Vikings. Arizona in

0:57:43.040 --> 0:57:46.720
<v Speaker 2>that loss once again to the Cleveland Browns, Clayton Tune

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:51.240
<v Speaker 2>was eleven for twenty for fifty eight yards, no touchdowns,

0:57:51.240 --> 0:57:54.120
<v Speaker 2>two picks. He was sacked seven times. He carried the

0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:56.480
<v Speaker 2>ball five times for twenty eight yards, did lose a fumble,

0:57:56.760 --> 0:58:00.360
<v Speaker 2>and again Arizona had seven first downs. They were one

0:58:00.360 --> 0:58:03.080
<v Speaker 2>of twelve on third downs. They had fifty eight total yards,

0:58:03.120 --> 0:58:06.200
<v Speaker 2>seventeen of which were passing, minus three in turnovers that

0:58:06.280 --> 0:58:08.040
<v Speaker 2>led to plus fourteen Cleveland net points.

0:58:09.680 --> 0:58:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if this is Kyler Murray, then Atlanta will

0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:17.480
<v Speaker 1>be favored by three.

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:21.480
<v Speaker 2>But if this is Clayton Tune, it's gotta be more

0:58:21.520 --> 0:58:23.640
<v Speaker 2>than that. I'm gonna say Atlanta minus three because I

0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:26.640
<v Speaker 2>think it's I think they're talking like it's Kyler Murray.

0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:31.400
<v Speaker 1>It is Atlanta two and a half pretty much painted everywhere.

0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:35.320
<v Speaker 1>I've seen a couple two's though, like they've like it's

0:58:35.480 --> 0:58:39.680
<v Speaker 1>come down to two. I'm a little surprised about too.

0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, let's put it this way, if it's Kyler,

0:58:42.840 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 1>because I think you're right. I think what you just

0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:45.480
<v Speaker 1>said with the numbers is right.

0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:48.120
<v Speaker 2>But if it's Kyler Murray, like I wouldn't bet this

0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:51.000
<v Speaker 2>game with anybody else's money, Like I wouldn't want any

0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:53.840
<v Speaker 2>part because what are you trying to do. If you're Arizona,

0:58:54.200 --> 0:58:57.160
<v Speaker 2>are you trying to win a football game with Kyler Murray?

0:58:57.720 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:58:58.040 --> 0:59:00.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand what's happening, So I don't on any

0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:01.320
<v Speaker 2>part of it with a bet.

0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I mean no, No, I think I think

0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you said it right though. With the number, man, I

0:59:09.920 --> 0:59:13.240
<v Speaker 1>just like, what would you need even in this situation.

0:59:13.400 --> 0:59:16.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, Let's say let's say it's Clayton too. What

0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:19.680
<v Speaker 1>number would you be willing to lay with the Atlanta

0:59:19.720 --> 0:59:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Falcons up to.

0:59:21.360 --> 0:59:25.760
<v Speaker 2>Mm, not more than not more than a reasonable number,

0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:27.760
<v Speaker 2>not more than like six at the top.

0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:30.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't even. I don't know if I

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:31.760
<v Speaker 1>could get on the other side of a field goal.

0:59:31.800 --> 0:59:34.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I could either. I just don't. Yeah,

0:59:34.080 --> 0:59:35.000
<v Speaker 1>that's I think that.

0:59:35.560 --> 0:59:38.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, but he was so bad yesterday. What's next?

0:59:38.600 --> 0:59:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Lions at Chargers? Oh there it is Lions of Chargers.

0:59:42.320 --> 0:59:45.160
<v Speaker 2>The game that we've that that our power rankings discussion

0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:48.080
<v Speaker 2>were a couple of weeks ago spawned so much hatred

0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:51.560
<v Speaker 2>about I'll say this is a Chargers sight unseen because

0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:55.000
<v Speaker 2>they played the Jets tonight. So I think I couldn't

0:59:55.000 --> 0:59:57.080
<v Speaker 2>decide between a pick him or the Chargers by a tick.

0:59:57.120 --> 0:59:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I'll say a pick.

0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Them opened a couple of plays, pickum or Lions one.

1:00:02.480 --> 1:00:05.400
<v Speaker 1>It is Lions one and a half basically everywhere, now,

1:00:05.560 --> 1:00:07.720
<v Speaker 1>gil I did bet a Lions at a pickup? Did

1:00:08.000 --> 1:00:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Lions at a pickup yesterday? I would love for the

1:00:10.560 --> 1:00:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Chargers to win this game, just for everybody to shut up.

1:00:13.640 --> 1:00:15.640
<v Speaker 1>I also think, though this is good, going back to

1:00:15.640 --> 1:00:18.680
<v Speaker 1>that conversation from two weeks ago, not applicable this situation

1:00:18.840 --> 1:00:21.800
<v Speaker 1>right because Chargers are on Monday night, Detroit coming off

1:00:21.800 --> 1:00:23.200
<v Speaker 1>of a bye completely different.

1:00:23.200 --> 1:00:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Detroit has extra rest. My Chargers are on short rest,

1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:27.320
<v Speaker 2>all right, and that.

1:00:27.400 --> 1:00:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Is definitely part of my handicap. I mean that, combined

1:00:29.680 --> 1:00:31.960
<v Speaker 1>with Chargers not really having much home field, all that

1:00:32.720 --> 1:00:35.240
<v Speaker 1>all right? Next up four to twenty five Eastern Giants

1:00:35.240 --> 1:00:36.600
<v Speaker 1>at Cowboys.

1:00:36.280 --> 1:00:40.919
<v Speaker 2>Two and seven Giants five and three, Cowboys both losing yesterday,

1:00:41.840 --> 1:00:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Giants against the Raiders after a three and out, Raiders

1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:47.520
<v Speaker 2>won sixty seven yards all but one play twenty four

1:00:47.560 --> 1:00:50.600
<v Speaker 2>yards on the ground. Myers in from seventeen seven to nothing.

1:00:51.120 --> 1:00:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Raiders.

1:00:51.760 --> 1:00:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Giants ensuing drive ends in a failed to his push

1:00:54.840 --> 1:00:57.880
<v Speaker 2>on fourth and one at the Raiders thirty four, Jones

1:00:57.920 --> 1:01:01.480
<v Speaker 2>stuffed for no game. Now the teams traded punts, but

1:01:01.600 --> 1:01:04.720
<v Speaker 2>Daniel Jones went down wincing not once but twice, the

1:01:04.880 --> 1:01:07.800
<v Speaker 2>second time on a non contact play. We'd later find

1:01:07.840 --> 1:01:11.920
<v Speaker 2>out it's an ACL injury. Tommy DeVito went in, and

1:01:11.960 --> 1:01:15.240
<v Speaker 2>by the way, you talked about smashing Atlanta, this was

1:01:15.280 --> 1:01:19.240
<v Speaker 2>the moment where the entire world smashed the Raiders when

1:01:19.280 --> 1:01:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Tommy DeVito was announced in this game, because we saw

1:01:23.280 --> 1:01:27.160
<v Speaker 2>what Tommy DeVito could or better said couldn't do last week.

1:01:27.520 --> 1:01:30.919
<v Speaker 2>So everybody, including myself, smashed the Raiders at this point,

1:01:31.000 --> 1:01:32.760
<v Speaker 2>and that proved to be a good bet because after

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<v Speaker 2>another trade of punts, Raiders won sixty six yards jacobs

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<v Speaker 2>in from two fourteen to five or six left the

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<v Speaker 2>second quarter. Then third play of the ensuing drive, DeVito

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<v Speaker 2>picked by a meek Robertson, Raiders won sixty yards O'Connell

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<v Speaker 2>to Trey Tucker for fifty immediately leads to jacobs in

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<v Speaker 2>from one twenty eight one to nothing Raiders with one

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<v Speaker 2>fifty seven left in the second quarter. Then DeVito was

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<v Speaker 2>picked off a caron by Nate Obbs twenty four to

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<v Speaker 2>nothing Raiders at the half they'd win at thirty to six.

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<v Speaker 2>Jones was four of nine for twenty five before he

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<v Speaker 2>had to leave DeVito fifteen of twenty four one seventy five.

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<v Speaker 2>They were minus two in turnovers that led to plus

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<v Speaker 2>ten Raiders points. So that's the Giants. They're two and seven,

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<v Speaker 2>and boy that that alternate under season win total is

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<v Speaker 2>only a couple weeks away from cashing quite frankly on

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<v Speaker 2>the Giant. Then there's Dallas. If it wasn't for Houston,

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<v Speaker 2>this might have been the best game of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>After Dallas three and out, Philadelphia starts at their own

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three. They went seventy seven yards converting a fourth

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<v Speaker 2>and one at their own thirty two on a turks bush.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they survived a strip sack by Sam Williams with

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<v Speaker 2>the ball went right back to Hertz, and then on

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<v Speaker 2>fourth and three at the Dallas twenty seven hurts to

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<v Speaker 2>Goddard for fifteen, then gained well in from twelve on

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<v Speaker 2>the next play seven and nothing, Philly five to forty

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<v Speaker 2>five five forty six pardon me left in the first quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>Then Dallas fourth and one at the Philadelphia thirty three

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<v Speaker 2>dak to Lamb for twenty nine. Next play to Ferguson

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<v Speaker 2>for four out seven is seven, one thirty seven left

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<v Speaker 2>in the first quarter. Then after Philly three and out,

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<v Speaker 2>Dallas went eighty two yards Dak to Gavante Turbin from

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<v Speaker 2>five out fourteen to seven Dallas eleven sixteen left in

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<v Speaker 2>the second quarter. That's only the second lead change in

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<v Speaker 2>a time Dallas game all season. Then Philly goes sixty

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<v Speaker 2>yards brother Lee shove in from one out fourteen to

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen five h nine left in the second quarter, then

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen to fourteen Dallas. Hurts, sacked by Parsons, took a

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<v Speaker 2>direct blow on his left knee earlier in the play.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be the halftime score seventeen to fourteen, but

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<v Speaker 2>Hurts just keeps coming even if he's hurt. Third quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>they're down three. Philly takes the opening drive seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>yards Hurts DeVonta Smith for twenty nine twenty one to

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen Philly. Then after Dallas punt, Philly goes eighty seven yards,

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<v Speaker 2>including it took his push conversion on thirty and one

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<v Speaker 2>along the way, Hurts the Brown from four out twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eight to seventeen Philly one ow eight left. Third quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>are they running away with it? No ensuing drive ten

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<v Speaker 2>ten to go, Dallas gets it to the one and

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<v Speaker 2>a half fourth in goal. Dak to Luke Schoonmaker at

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<v Speaker 2>the goal line, knead down about the ball being i'd say,

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<v Speaker 2>with the ball about a half a foot short. No touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Then after a Philly three and out, Dallas fifty two

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<v Speaker 2>yard drive Dak to Jaylen Tolbert from seven out makes

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<v Speaker 2>it twenty eight twenty three. Remember the spread is three here,

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<v Speaker 2>but the two point conversion no good because d stepped

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<v Speaker 2>out of bounds before he lunged for the pile on

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<v Speaker 2>bo balls about a foot shy of the goal line there.

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<v Speaker 2>So between the Schoonmaker play at the goal line and

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<v Speaker 2>now this two point conversion was six twenty three to go.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the game right there. Then a miserable three and

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<v Speaker 2>out for Philly as Philly elects to pass on third

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<v Speaker 2>and three instead of the Tookers push twice. Dallas starts

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<v Speaker 2>at their own twenty six with four to forty three

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<v Speaker 2>to go, get to first intend at the Philly thirty

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<v Speaker 2>one with two forty seven to go. Prescott then sacked

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<v Speaker 2>by Brandon Braham, then by Jalen Carter two minutes to

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<v Speaker 2>go third and twenty one, Dak to Lamb for thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>fourth and eight at the Philly twenty nine, one to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two to go down five, Dak intended.

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<v Speaker 1>For Tolbert incomplete.

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<v Speaker 2>Ferguson was wide open behind the d but Dallas has

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<v Speaker 2>all three timeouts left, though, and on third down, Swift

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<v Speaker 2>runs right into Brown fumbles, but Phillies Tyler's Dean recovers

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<v Speaker 2>fumble luck forty six seconds to go. When Dallas gets

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<v Speaker 2>the ball back at their own fourteen. After the bun

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<v Speaker 2>first and ten, Dak throws a deep Bradbury runs right

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<v Speaker 2>into Gallop for a thirty six yard PI pick up,

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<v Speaker 2>then at midfield forty seconds to go, ten yards to

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<v Speaker 2>Ferguson with roughing the passer on Hassan Redick tacked on

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<v Speaker 2>at the Philly twenty five with thirty two seconds to go,

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen to Lamb, then First intended the eleven with twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven seconds to go. They trade encroachment and fall star penalties,

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<v Speaker 2>then Dak sacked by Josh Sweat. No timeouts left over

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<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys. They don't get off another play until eleven

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<v Speaker 2>seconds left on the clock. On the clock that's incomplete

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<v Speaker 2>and tended Tolbert in the back of the end zone

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<v Speaker 2>five seconds left.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, after another Dallas false start third and.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty six of the twenty seven gotta get to the

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<v Speaker 2>end zone, Dak to Lamb for twenty No good, not

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<v Speaker 2>good enough, he fumbles anyway, ballgame, Eagles miraculous cover. You

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<v Speaker 2>gotta be kidding me. Oh what the Eagles overcame to

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<v Speaker 2>cover that?

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<v Speaker 1>I see.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say, Dallas, mine is fourteen and a half

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<v Speaker 2>over the Giants.

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<v Speaker 1>You're off. It's up to fifteen and a half or sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I suck more guesses? Next skill, Alexander is Kelly Bidlin.

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<v Speaker 2>We go through the guessing lines process because it has

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<v Speaker 2>delivered winners. Something about this exercise and the first instinct

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<v Speaker 2>has really translated through the years, but certainly this year,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to go back to that because I

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<v Speaker 2>know we got a few more games to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>But that Cowboys Eagles game yesterday, which again you had

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<v Speaker 2>the Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>In this game. Yeah, those I had the Cowboys for

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<v Speaker 1>those of us had the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, let me just say, you have to recognize when

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<v Speaker 2>you just get pure, purely fortunate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't have a bet I did. I just

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<v Speaker 1>had in the contest.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, the Eagles were up twenty eight to seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>and it looked like, you know, maybe they're gonna maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna win this game. You know, comfortably that did

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<v Speaker 2>not come to pass. But you just think of the

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<v Speaker 2>things that they had to overcome again, the Schoonmaker play

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<v Speaker 2>at the goal line, which was initially ruled a touchdown

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<v Speaker 2>but then was reversed, right, that was a fourth down play.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the Dak two point conversion where he steps out

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<v Speaker 2>before he could put the ball over the over the

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<v Speaker 2>goal line. Then the fumble, which will again just like

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<v Speaker 2>in that Houston game, when you recover your own fumble

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<v Speaker 2>deep inside your territory, your brain tends to purge it.

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<v Speaker 2>But in the case of Steam here with the Eagles,

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<v Speaker 2>that he lands on that fumble that third downplay, the

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<v Speaker 2>Eagles are just trying it like and they and and

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<v Speaker 2>Andre Swift runs right into aj Brown, the ball drops

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<v Speaker 2>and Tyler stem pardon me, recovers that football. That's another thing, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the Cowboys get the ball. You're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well they gotta go all the way down field. And

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<v Speaker 2>then Bradbury just runs into gallop Hassan Reddick Roughs Dack.

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<v Speaker 2>Next thing you know, like Dallas is in scoring position.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the old baseball baseball phrase. The fact that they

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<v Speaker 2>were able to withstand that again a bailout's Josh Sweat

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<v Speaker 2>sack where the Cowboys had no time left and so

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't get another playoff till eleven seconds were left,

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<v Speaker 2>and then finally won with five seconds left. By that time,

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<v Speaker 2>they needed another false start. They needed twenty seven yards.

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<v Speaker 2>They threw it short and ceed Lamb fumbled it anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>but there were so many things in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>That had to go the Eagles way. Yeah, to cover

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<v Speaker 1>the c Lamb. The one has nothing you can you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even count. Like people keep bringing that up like

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<v Speaker 1>it belongs in the same sense. He threw it short

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<v Speaker 1>of the end zone, Like what am I Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard for me to cut him side now. On the

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<v Speaker 1>two point conversion, that was the tough one where he's live.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he was in.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was in two and then and then

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those you see those replays and you're like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>Dak like I know, I know, it's it's really easy

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<v Speaker 1>for me to say sitting on the couch here. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's like that's something you gotta be real careful with.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the game? I want to say it was

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<v Speaker 2>the Thursday night game with the Steelers and the Titans

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<v Speaker 2>where I actually texted like wish Nev and Will Hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you seen a team of receivers talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>Steelers now that have less sideline recognition than these guys have,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they're always stepping out of bounds. That entire team

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<v Speaker 2>is like there's a sideline.

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<v Speaker 1>He's really I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't see what.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see what's his name, gutneral Schesky anymore? Now

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<v Speaker 1>he was on the Giants hour. I can't see him

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<v Speaker 1>anymore without thinking about the kickoff tip today tap the

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<v Speaker 1>toes in the sideline.

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<v Speaker 2>So the same question. The Eagles are eight and one,

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys are five and three. Again, Cowboys a bully that

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<v Speaker 2>beats up on every team that's worse than them. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>they should they have won, No, but they certainly could

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<v Speaker 2>have maybe maybe should have. Do you think of the

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys any better than you did beforehand? So like Deck

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<v Speaker 2>has been pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad you asked it this. Yeah, the Cowboys lost that game,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm more impressed with them sitting here today than

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<v Speaker 1>I was heading.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so too, me too. That's the big takeaway

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<v Speaker 2>for me in that game. And does Philly have enough

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<v Speaker 2>because they win a lot of close games, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>Dallas or Washington, whoever, do they have enough to get

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<v Speaker 2>to or and or win a Super Bowl right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. So the one I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've been hurt is hurt. Yeah. I think I've been

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<v Speaker 1>pretty clear about this, like on the show, like there

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<v Speaker 1>are guys Hurts, Josh Allen, you know Watson that it's

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<v Speaker 1>been either kind of stay away from or bet against

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<v Speaker 1>for me, just because I know there's I know they're hurt.

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<v Speaker 1>We just don't really know how much with almost all

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<v Speaker 1>of them. But they're the one team that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>keeps winning through it, right Philly, no matter what you

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<v Speaker 1>throw out them. Yeah, that's where I still believe in them,

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<v Speaker 1>Gil because they do think as if as long as

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<v Speaker 1>Hurts is able to get healthier, I think they get

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<v Speaker 1>even better and we'll start to see them win a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>By Martin, see, I think remember there were those two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know which weeks they were. They were Week

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<v Speaker 2>four or five or week five or six, whichever weeks

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<v Speaker 2>they were where we came in here, We're like, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>this product has been awful. Just from a viewing standpoint,

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<v Speaker 2>I think besides those two weeks, the NFL has been awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome. Yeah, yesterday was the best Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought so too, And like, I think the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't know, like the fact that Kansas City

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<v Speaker 2>appears diminished, the fact that Miami and Dallas are bullies,

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that Philly, even though they're winning, feels a

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<v Speaker 2>little less than last year's version, but that Burrow keeps

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<v Speaker 2>doing Burrow things, that the Ravens are sort of lying

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<v Speaker 2>in the weeds, That the Niners, everybody all, they're the

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<v Speaker 2>most complete team. I certainly feel that way, but they

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<v Speaker 2>had some injuries and so now they're five and three.

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<v Speaker 2>People seem I don't know if people have forgotten about

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<v Speaker 2>the Niners right, Like, I just think we have a

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<v Speaker 2>great stretch run, great second half of the season coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of the Diners, would you like your line update? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they're getting smashed this morning. We're up up to three. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess three? Yeah. I remember I was saying there

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<v Speaker 1>was two and a halves out there there was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of two and a halves. They're gone because the

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<v Speaker 1>Niners are great, man, they're better footballs coming in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>look coming off by right. Deebo is supposed to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe for this game.

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<v Speaker 2>Ken Williams is a big one. Ted Williams is a

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<v Speaker 2>big one. All right, Let's let's do the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>these if we can. Are we still in the afternoon?

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<v Speaker 1>We are commanders at Seahawks, Commanders at Seahawks.

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<v Speaker 2>Four and five commanders. I have the alt season win

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<v Speaker 2>totals over on the Commanders. I got to get them

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<v Speaker 2>to eight and nine. Can they go four and four

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<v Speaker 2>to the rest of the way. They're four and five

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<v Speaker 2>now they're at Seattle. Who's five and three? Does Seattle

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<v Speaker 2>feel fraudulent to you?

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<v Speaker 1>It does, dude to me?

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<v Speaker 2>How old yesterday? By the way, twenty nine to forty

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<v Speaker 2>five for three twenty five in victory, I should say

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<v Speaker 2>over the Patriots one touchdown, one pick, he was sacked

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<v Speaker 2>three times. They outgained New England Washington did four thirty

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<v Speaker 2>two to three twenty seven, and they at time of

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<v Speaker 2>possession them thirty seven ten to twenty two to fifty

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<v Speaker 2>Gino in defeat thirteen Kelly thirteen for twenty eight for

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<v Speaker 2>one fifty seven, no touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked

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<v Speaker 2>four times, he lost the fumble and again. Seattle against

1:12:05.439 --> 1:12:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore only had six first downs. They were one of

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<v Speaker 2>twelve on third They were out game five fifteen to

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<v Speaker 2>one fifty one, two ninety eight to twenty eight on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground. The ground is supposed to be their bread

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<v Speaker 2>and butter and out time of possession if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>forty ozh four to nineteen fifty six. I put Seattle

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<v Speaker 2>in no man's land five and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, that is where it opened about five and a half. Six.

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<v Speaker 1>It is mainly six and a half's out there now.

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<v Speaker 1>I did bet Seattle at five and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Not only are these guesses like really easy this week,

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<v Speaker 2>it sucks because literally I only like one game so far. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I laid the five and a half with Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>I hear what you're saying. The thing is, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's just Gino. We're really just talking about Gino. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, when when the Seahawks played well, we

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<v Speaker 1>want we want to be like, hey, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think of last year we forgot made us forget a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit that Gino Smith is still Gino Smith. Like

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<v Speaker 1>there are times where he's gonna lose a game for you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, yesterday, the way that game started off,

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<v Speaker 1>they just got they got destroyed in the trenches, like

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<v Speaker 1>there was I got so many texts about Geno. He sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>It sucks, suck like so many times. There's a guy

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<v Speaker 1>in his face right away. So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I laid it with it, Uh with Seahawks, So you

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<v Speaker 2>did lay the points? Yeah, laid five and a half. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>laid five and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. I thought that I did think this number

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna move their way too, all right. Sunday night,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a thriller. Jets at Raiders.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, another prime time barn burner right here, Jets sight unseen.

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<v Speaker 1>They played the Chargers tonight. The flex scheduling is still

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, right, that's still an option?

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<v Speaker 2>Lex away, NFL, what are we waiting? We got plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of flex options. I don't flex doesn't start this early?

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<v Speaker 2>Does It doesn't start this early?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it did.

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<v Speaker 2>Now Jets are four and three currently. That record will

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<v Speaker 2>change tonight and the Raiders are four and five. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why there's a two game difference because the Jets haven't

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<v Speaker 2>played Raiders O'Connell and victory. Aidan O'Connell sixteen for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five for two nine against the Giants, Josh Jacobs twenty

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<v Speaker 2>six carries ninety eight yards two touchdowns. Again, they were

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<v Speaker 2>plus two in turnovers against what turned out to be

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<v Speaker 2>the Tommy DeVito led Giants. The Raiders win it in

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<v Speaker 2>Antonio Pierce's debut thirty to six. Uh, Jets, real quick?

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot they adjusted this stupid rule. So's they can

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<v Speaker 1>only flex two games betweens Week five and ten, and

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<v Speaker 1>then eleven through seventeen. They can flex whatever, right, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I was saying. So this is the last

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<v Speaker 1>week where they have the constraint. But have they flexed

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<v Speaker 1>anything yet? I don't know, right, so they should be

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<v Speaker 1>able to hear. I would think this would be the

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<v Speaker 1>one i'd flex out Jets minus two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>on the road. Is I believe you are dead on

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<v Speaker 1>Jets two and a half on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Road, bingo bango, Because Jets have the best unit, right,

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<v Speaker 2>The defense is the best unit by far, So that's

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<v Speaker 2>the handicap.

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<v Speaker 1>Really. Yeah, against Aidan O'Connell, Jets team so hard to

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<v Speaker 1>bet on or bet against for me at least right now,

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<v Speaker 1>because of that, right, the defense is so good. But then,

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Wilson, this is a tough week.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do the last one here Monday Night.

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<v Speaker 1>Monday Night Broncos at Bill's broc somehow the best of

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<v Speaker 1>the three prime time games. Really good God.

1:14:58.640 --> 1:15:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Broncos coming off by the three and five Buffalo five

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<v Speaker 2>and four. The Buffalo Bills are five and four after

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<v Speaker 2>last night. Alan Josh Allen twenty six of thirty eight

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<v Speaker 2>for two fifty eight, one touchdown, one picky sack ones

1:15:10.360 --> 1:15:12.599
<v Speaker 2>eight carries forty four yards in the touchdown, but they

1:15:12.600 --> 1:15:14.639
<v Speaker 2>were minus two and turnovers that led to plus three

1:15:14.680 --> 1:15:19.360
<v Speaker 2>nets Cincinnati points. Yesterday they end up losing by six

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<v Speaker 2>Buffalo minus seven. In the hook, I will say dg

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<v Speaker 2>Ning ning.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven and a half, exactly seven and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you something. That might have been the

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<v Speaker 2>easiest week of line guessing. That might have been the

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<v Speaker 2>most accurate collective week of line guessing.

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<v Speaker 1>Every right, think, so, You've actually had a couple this

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<v Speaker 1>year that were really close, But this one, that.

1:15:40.640 --> 1:15:42.519
<v Speaker 2>One is so easy to get through.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when I was typing in your guests as a scorn.

1:15:44.439 --> 1:15:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I was like this, I thought the same thing I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is where Gil might be the closest

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<v Speaker 1>this entire year. Minnesota is the only thing I liked.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's the thing I like the best of

1:15:53.640 --> 1:15:56.120
<v Speaker 1>the bunch was that that was the one where you

1:15:56.160 --> 1:15:59.679
<v Speaker 1>had a different favorite, different favorite. I remember, we're still bouncing.

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<v Speaker 2>I could be talked into a couple others, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>the big one. We'll talk survivor on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's your MVP at this point?

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<v Speaker 1>Binlin live at Bar Canada at the d. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>to our question about Hobbs, you know, what does one

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<v Speaker 1>think of because I refer to Joshua Dobbs as Joshua

1:17:03.760 --> 1:17:06.679
<v Speaker 1>take too long to figure out an actual pull on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>so I gave up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what most people are coming back with? You said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the natural or fast Infurioce Calvin and Hobbes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right, those are. That is what we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>tweeted the most.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'd be awful on like family feud or match game.

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<v Speaker 2>So we had to tweet sports pick magic. I know

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't your take, but it's not just gino. When

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<v Speaker 2>you give up thirty seven points in five hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty yards and the other team takes a knee at

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<v Speaker 2>the end to keep from completely embarrassing you more than

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<v Speaker 2>just the quarterback. He's absolutely right. Yeah, sure, absolutely right

1:17:32.600 --> 1:17:33.519
<v Speaker 2>about that, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 1>That game was still I think those games, when you

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<v Speaker 1>talk the Lions game against the Ravens and the Seahawks

1:17:38.280 --> 1:17:40.800
<v Speaker 1>game against Ravens, it's almost you can't you can't really

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<v Speaker 1>evaluate much past the first quarter and a half because

1:17:44.280 --> 1:17:46.840
<v Speaker 1>it just turns into a blowout territory. Yeah, they got

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<v Speaker 1>dominated in the trenches. That's where it started, though.

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<v Speaker 2>It does run the risk of that. You like, then

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<v Speaker 2>you take your your eye off the ball with the

1:17:54.800 --> 1:17:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Ravens too, right, We're like, oh, you should be paying

1:17:58.320 --> 1:18:00.840
<v Speaker 2>attention to just how badly they're crushing these teams, right,

1:18:01.000 --> 1:18:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Jeff Levine. Oh, he's the ro Kwan Smith guy. No Watts,

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<v Speaker 2>no other ego driven sacks, studs, just to wonderfully coordinate

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<v Speaker 2>and design d steer it on field by leader Roquan Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>Up.

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<v Speaker 2>I will champion this until he gets the recognition he deserves.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're great. He's I mean, nothing he's saying is wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesse Welch. Apparently all you need to do in the

1:18:21.080 --> 1:18:23.040
<v Speaker 2>NFL in order to win is to sign a new

1:18:23.080 --> 1:18:26.000
<v Speaker 2>quarterback every Wednesday and put them in straight off the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good strategy. It's working out for teams this year.

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<v Speaker 2>So I want to say one thing, so we as

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<v Speaker 2>we go to our Week ten place, I like Minnesota best,

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<v Speaker 2>but obviously we're gonna have to have five contest picks,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's gonna be other bets in it. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be talked into other bets. So I'm just thinking what

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<v Speaker 2>are right now? If you said to me you must

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<v Speaker 2>pick three, right, Minnesota would be one of them. Based

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<v Speaker 2>on the exercise we just went through. I think Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 2>would be number two. I hate to say it hosting

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<v Speaker 2>green Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you say? The line was three? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>an even three on Pittsburgh? Let me see what we're

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<v Speaker 1>up to?

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<v Speaker 2>Three and a half not as fun, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Pittsburgh hoasting green Bay. And I hate to say it,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know what number three is Dallas laying the

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<v Speaker 2>wood against the Giants, Because couldn't you see Dallas winning

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<v Speaker 2>that by four touchdowns?

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen it a few times already, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I have got I don't love those, but that's what

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<v Speaker 2>my top three would be right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, I have bet Lions and Seahawks already. Lion's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna pick them. Seahawks set five and a half so

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<v Speaker 1>I guess those would be two of my answers. I

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea the three filling out the other. The

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<v Speaker 1>other three will be tough, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>You really have no problem laying those points with the

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<v Speaker 2>Seahawks against against Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see that going. No, no, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that they are and the Lions. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these teams in the NFL where it is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>am I gonna am? I gonna really trust the Seahawks

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<v Speaker 1>up against top level competition? Probably not? That was probably

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<v Speaker 1>clearly this guy bet and I ended up on with

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<v Speaker 1>them last week in Baltimore. I think them playing against

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<v Speaker 1>the Commanders at home is a completely different story. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>we say it often. I one week in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>to the next week is a very different story week

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<v Speaker 1>after week.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't hate either of them quite frankly.

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<v Speaker 1>Now one and then I bet, I actually bet the

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<v Speaker 1>over on I bet over forty six on Texan, forty

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<v Speaker 1>six and a half on Texans and Bengals.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's talk about MVP for a second. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>first survivor, I'm just gonna go again. We're both out

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<v Speaker 2>of it. Kelly and I have been long gone out

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<v Speaker 2>of Survivor. As we mentioned at the top of the show,

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<v Speaker 2>there are still in Circus Survivor pending the game tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>There are eleven hundred and thirty eight entries left. Eleven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and thirty eight. This game hasn't even started yet.

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<v Speaker 2>After week three, before I got bounced with my Washington

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<v Speaker 2>pick against Chicago, I did map out who I would

1:20:46.120 --> 1:20:49.800
<v Speaker 2>pick every week. Sadly, besides that one loss, I'd still

1:20:49.800 --> 1:20:52.040
<v Speaker 2>be in it too, which sucks because I'm rooting for

1:20:52.080 --> 1:20:54.240
<v Speaker 2>a second loss, so I can be clear of it

1:20:54.280 --> 1:20:58.680
<v Speaker 2>in my mind. Also, this past week was either New

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<v Speaker 2>Orleans or Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably split them.

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<v Speaker 2>This week is for me because I would have used

1:21:03.479 --> 1:21:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Buffalo already and I have to save Dallas, So this

1:21:06.400 --> 1:21:09.559
<v Speaker 2>week is Cincinnati for me. Cincinnati would would have been

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<v Speaker 2>my Survivor play this week now at the time when

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<v Speaker 2>you were mapping that out, Cincinnati hosting, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>uh once again, the Houston Texas Houston Texas. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I don't love but like that would

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<v Speaker 2>be my pick.

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<v Speaker 1>When you were mapping it. When were you mapping this

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<v Speaker 1>out after week three? So what was Joe Burrow's status though? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that was what would you You don't think

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<v Speaker 1>your answer would change on Cincinnati, I'm not saving them, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I for what When I was going through them, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, when is when is the most optimal

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<v Speaker 1>time to use them?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I need to save them Cincinnati? I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I can get by the weeks where Burrow's getting healthier.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait till week nine, play them at Houston. This is

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<v Speaker 2>play them at home against.

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<v Speaker 1>Uston they got Obviously they're on the toughest division at football.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have some tough games coming up. I am

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<v Speaker 1>rooting for me to lose one of these, just so

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<v Speaker 1>I get. I don't know the mental thing, oh that

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<v Speaker 1>one game.

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<v Speaker 2>Then, as far as MVP and the reason I bring

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<v Speaker 2>this up again because obviously, again we said c J.

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<v Speaker 2>Stroud Offensive Rookie of the Year. It's done, barring god

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<v Speaker 2>forbid an injury.

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<v Speaker 1>It's his.

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<v Speaker 2>Setting records. Yesterday yardage for rookies matched it with touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>But MVP continues to be fascinating. And the reason I

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<v Speaker 2>bring it up again is because last week we had

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<v Speaker 2>multiple guests on the show, and each one of them right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just use two as an example. Before I could

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<v Speaker 2>even finish the sentence, Kelly right with Drew Dinzik, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Patrick Mahomes and basically you were saying on his

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<v Speaker 2>podcast he essentially is like, and if you don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you're wrong. No, no, that's not what he would say.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just saying people hadn't been given him enough

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<v Speaker 1>due credit, basically leading in weeks like it.

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<v Speaker 2>Phrased my way better, Eric Eager, Doctor, Eric Eager. Before

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<v Speaker 2>I could finish the sentence, was like, Josh Allen, period,

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<v Speaker 2>the analytics folks love them. Else from Josh Allen, Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>you think either of those guys at the MVP, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think either of them leaps off the page

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<v Speaker 1>as the MVY No, no, no, no, I don't off

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<v Speaker 1>the page. I think that's why the odds are what

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<v Speaker 1>they are right now to an updated MVP odds, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>i'll give them to you right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Lamar's plus three fitty, and so's Jalen Hurts, and so's

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes. We have co co co favorites. Yep, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that says it all right. It's fairly

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<v Speaker 2>accurately priced. TUA drops to plus six fifty and Joe Burrow,

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<v Speaker 2>who we recommended on the show last week at twenty

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<v Speaker 2>to one, is seven to one, and then Christian McCaffrey's

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen to one. Tyreeth remains forty to one, Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 2>twenty to one, Trevor Lawrence twenty to one, brought Purty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five to one. Some people were floating Jared Goff

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<v Speaker 2>last week. He's forty to one. Justin Herbert's fifty to one.

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<v Speaker 2>Dak is fifty to one.

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<v Speaker 1>What if I told you? What if I told you

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<v Speaker 1>there was a court back out there? Yeah? Okay, Who's

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<v Speaker 1>played in eight games so not nine like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these other guys have. Yeah, is still seventh in

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<v Speaker 1>the league in passing yards, has thrown fourteen touchdowns and

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<v Speaker 1>has one interception, and his team does not have a

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<v Speaker 1>winning record, does not have a winning record, trying to think,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't ever what are you so bad with the

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<v Speaker 1>records as I am, because all we do is bet,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't care. I don't give what your win loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I ca consult the standing that I tell you

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<v Speaker 2>what the records are? Who are you referring to A A.

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<v Speaker 1>CJ. Stroud?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he's not winning MVP. Yeah, I know, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>winning Rookie.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Year. I mean, a lot of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about his stats are right up there.

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<v Speaker 2>I just keep getting to the Lamar Jackson thing. Right

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<v Speaker 2>in the same way that we're just staring the Ravens

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<v Speaker 2>every staring at the Ravens every week. They're the only

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<v Speaker 2>team literally that you can say they should be nine

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<v Speaker 2>to zero, in the same way that we stare at

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<v Speaker 2>them and we don't for whatever reason, we don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to put them at the top. Are we also staring

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<v Speaker 2>at Lamar Jackson in this MVP marketing saying the same thing?

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<v Speaker 2>He's plus three fifty. I know it's not that sexy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not suggesting that it is, but is he like

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<v Speaker 2>if they go, well't this? I mean, I guess then

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<v Speaker 2>we could say this about Jalen Hurts too. If the

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<v Speaker 2>Eagles or the who ends up with the best, right,

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<v Speaker 2>If the Eagles go fifteen and two or the Ravens

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<v Speaker 2>go fifteen in two.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>If they both go fifteen in two, that immediately, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>nullifies the question because then you can't answer it.

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<v Speaker 1>But if one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Goes fifteen and two, and they have the best record

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<v Speaker 2>in all of football and they play the whole way through?

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<v Speaker 2>Aren't they kind of the MVP off nobody else?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Yes, and it's that was largely Yes. Drew was

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<v Speaker 1>bringing up the Homes when he was saying this, but

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<v Speaker 1>his whole when he brought this up two or three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks applies to Mahomes too. Two or three weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>he brought this up where he thought, whoever finished with

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<v Speaker 1>the one seed in the AFC he did that quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>would be your MVP. And the only reason I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>it that way though, is because no one has stood out,

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<v Speaker 1>so it becomes a tiebreaker. No, I completely agree, right

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<v Speaker 1>because I believe who has stood out. I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>was Tyreek Hill till this past weekend, right, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>believe in terms of you're just doing it based on

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<v Speaker 1>historical performance.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyreek Hill ought to be your MVP. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess we've already discussed that at nauseam. But Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 2>with an injury, they stink. Now he doesn't have an injury,

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<v Speaker 2>They're awesome. I mean, you could make a case it's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Reason why he went from twenty to twenty to one

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<v Speaker 1>to seven to one, right in over a weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and by the way, Josh Allen, who is clearly

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<v Speaker 2>not the MVP, but like, if you take him off

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<v Speaker 2>the bills.

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<v Speaker 1>How bad are they? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>This is the most wide open MVP discussion we've ever

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<v Speaker 2>had at the halfway market the season. And then there's

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<v Speaker 2>Brock Purty chilling at twenty five to one, who's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what if we were awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>In the end. My answer is this, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>to bet. I don't know if you forced me to bet,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't know who to bet on. Today. We've done

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<v Speaker 1>all we can do.

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