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Speaker 2: The Dallas Cowboys Tyler.

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Speaker 1: And now your host Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: Today is Thursday, April twentieth, twenty twenty three, and officially

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Speaker 3: one week.

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Speaker 4: Out from the NFL Draft in Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: As we welcome you back into the SWBC studios. We've

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Speaker 3: got Ryan brot us Zach Waltschuk, Ayisha Morrison, Chris Beam

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Speaker 3: a great job as well. I'm Kyle Yeomans. All right,

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Speaker 3: one week out here we go. Buckle up everybody, but

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Speaker 3: we hadn't been buckled in already.

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Speaker 5: I mean, man, I'm getting buckled in now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I feel like you're just now getting strapped in.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys feel like you're getting a pretty decent

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Speaker 2: handle where some things might go, Not just so much

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Speaker 2: for the Cowboys, but just kind of what positions you

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Speaker 2: think where maybe some runs are gonna happen. You got

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Speaker 2: anybody people going to trade up for? Talking about that,

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Speaker 2: got any of those guys in mind. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: definitely think we're gonna see the first round.

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Speaker 4: What do you got the.

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Speaker 5: Crazy first round? What do you I don't know. I

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Speaker 5: talked about Houston, right, Yeah. Two, I think the crazy

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Speaker 5: team that might make this very interesting is Tennessee. It

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Speaker 5: seems like the Titans have been hunting quarterbacks in Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: We got the report that they were flirting with maybe

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Speaker 5: another quarterback trade option San Francisco. I think, much like

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Speaker 5: we saw last year with AJ Brown, Hollywood Brown, you

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Speaker 5: had Night one trades. They it might be players, you know,

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Speaker 5: maybe that's when you see a Hopkins trade happen, you know,

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Speaker 5: for instance. So now I think, more than ever, it's

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Speaker 5: not just about hey, what is there a player that

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Speaker 5: a team wants to trade up for? It's our team's

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Speaker 5: moving picks to acquire veterans, which we haven't seen a

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Speaker 5: ton of. Last year was really the start of that.

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Speaker 6: It's funny that you mentioned Tennessee because if you saw

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Speaker 6: them this past offseason, they had a lot of guys

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Speaker 6: that were if I'm not mistaken, like even Derrick Henry

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Speaker 6: at some point in time they were talking about they

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Speaker 6: were kind of shopping yet what I mean, yeah, so

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Speaker 6: and then they have I feel like they have other

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Speaker 6: defensive players as well that people were interested in, like, Hey,

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Speaker 6: is this guy going to be a free agent? What

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Speaker 6: is he going to do? So they do have some

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Speaker 6: people on their team that have value. The Titans are

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Speaker 6: no sleepers, Like at the offensive side is where they

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Speaker 6: struggled predominantly because of the quarterback. It sounds like they

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Speaker 6: a elite will.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they like what they have there.

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Speaker 6: Alis don't miss somebody else say, I was just trying

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Speaker 3: I think he's still a quarterback that can develop and

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Speaker 3: he'll be okay. But when it comes to their future,

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Speaker 3: they really think that they can win now Tennessee can.

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Speaker 3: So if you need to be aggressive, you need to

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you where I would be if the things

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Speaker 2: that I'm studying right now, and I used to be

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Speaker 2: in the pro side of things. So you've got to

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Speaker 2: figure out what team's needs are and what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Worry now about teams trading ahead of you. You know

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Speaker 2: who who behind you can trade up? Kansas City super aggressive, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 2: super aggressive, New Orleans, super aggressive Cincinnati. You know, you

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Speaker 2: call Cincinnati and say, hey, Duke Brian brought us here,

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Speaker 2: you know, Duke Tobin.

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Speaker 7: Then hey Brian, how's it going? Oh great? Well, just

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Speaker 2: You know, usually Cincinnati is not a team that will move,

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Speaker 2: So if you're the Cowboys, you have to do your

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Speaker 2: the top of the board. There's there's talk to I mean,

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Speaker 2: we've seen some stuff. I know on our show on

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Speaker 2: I think did a thing of possible trades, and one

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Speaker 2: pick one oh six, which is a fourth round. Now, okay,

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Speaker 2: this is where it's interesting. If you're interested in doing that,

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Speaker 2: I'll say it interesting a lot there.

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Speaker 5: That's okay, but it is interesting.

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Speaker 7: It is interesting.

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Speaker 2: I say it that many times if you're interested in

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Speaker 2: that kind of a trade, if you're going to fall

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Speaker 2: The way the draft breaks down is round one is

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Speaker 2: then Saturday, when we really start the marathon, will be

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Speaker 2: the start of round four. Round four. You tell me

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Speaker 2: that pick at one oh six, that's the fourth pick

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Speaker 2: to start the day.

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Speaker 6: Set the table.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, boom boom.

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Speaker 2: And maybe it's one of those things too where you

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Speaker 2: look at it and you say, what might be worth

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Speaker 2: it to us to drop back to that thirty five

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Speaker 2: then you've got your own pick down there at one

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Speaker 2: entertain like that. I always felt like when you were

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Speaker 2: because they're guys that might have been on their board

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Speaker 2: in the third round that now they're sleeping on it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: now they're the draft is over after night too, and

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Speaker 2: they're looking at their board and they're going, we still

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Speaker 2: got some second round guys up on that board. We

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Speaker 3: Think about last year specifically, they really wanted a tight

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Speaker 3: A couple picks later, Daniel Bellinger boom off the table.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if they go up and they set the

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Speaker 3: of those tight ends that they probably coveted more so

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Speaker 2: I'm interested, and you're absolutely right. I am interested in

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Speaker 2: trading with teams like Houston, Arizona, Indy and maybe Seattle

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Speaker 2: teams that are in the back end of the draft

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Speaker 2: because the picks. When we start to talk about the

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Speaker 2: Indie pick that we just mentioned, that's the top of

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Speaker 2: the fourth round. Sure, I'm not interested in your bottom

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Speaker 7: That's almost like a five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want some value if I'm going to move,

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Speaker 2: if I'm going to give up a fifth year option,

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Speaker 2: and maybe you give up a fifth year option. The

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Speaker 2: if Bjeon Robinson, if it looks like that Bjon and

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Speaker 2: Jeon Robinson if he's there twenty six.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I just think they will.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it might be the best value pick of the

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Speaker 2: Need you need his fifth year option. It's got to

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Speaker 2: give that up. I think there's certain positions you can

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Speaker 2: give up the fifth year option and they're okay, like guard, guard,

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Speaker 2: wide receiver, quarterbacks, those guys. Yeah, you want that fifth

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Speaker 2: year option because you want that extra year of control.

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Speaker 2: So to me, the fifth year option, if if if

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Speaker 2: Robinson's sliding in their in their intent, that might make

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Speaker 2: that might be hard for them to move. If Robinson's gone,

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Speaker 2: I think they can make that trade and then they

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Speaker 2: they want it at thirty five.

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Speaker 3: So if you're talking best case scenario for a team

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Speaker 3: the front part of the second round, would it be

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Speaker 3: beat Jean sitting there at at twenty six or would

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Speaker 3: it be one of these quarterbacks, Like let let's say

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Speaker 3: the board. Yeah, teams want that extra year, extra year

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Speaker 2: I think I think I think Zach when he did

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Speaker 2: the mock draft and and he picked Tendon Hooker, and

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Speaker 2: we all kind of looked at each other and went,

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Speaker 7: That's that's kind of fun, kind of creative. I think

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Speaker 2: I think it's reality for some teams that that you know,

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Speaker 2: like I say, the team that I would worry, the

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Speaker 2: like I say, those teams could be super aggressive in

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Speaker 2: the way they do it. And but you know, look

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Speaker 2: at a team like what if Seattle. You know what

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Speaker 2: if Seattle goes through there. Now, Seattle's got a couple

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Speaker 2: of a couple of picks in this thing that that

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Speaker 2: they can you know, they can, they can if they

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Speaker 2: need a quarterback or talk about getting a quarterback. They

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Speaker 2: kind of got those couple of picks to work for

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Speaker 2: they are five and twenty. Yeah, but they could also

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Speaker 2: they could also be a team that trades back into

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Speaker 2: kind of where but I would be worried if I'm

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys, if I'm the Pro Department, you know, the

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Speaker 2: guys upstairs. I'm trying to gauge the teams behind me,

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Speaker 2: what their needs are, who potentially could be there when

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Speaker 2: we're doing these mock drafts and we're and start to

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Speaker 2: plot that maybe that we might get traded ahead of

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Speaker 2: if we're we're if we're wanting to sit on some

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Speaker 2: of these guys, well, let's let's play.

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Speaker 4: Around with some of those scenarios a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Because even if you do stick in at twenty six

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Speaker 3: and you pick, there's gonna be positions that you I

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Speaker 3: don't want to say neglect, but you just push a

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Speaker 3: little bit further down the way, because if you pick

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Speaker 3: a tight end, you don't have to really pick tight

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Speaker 3: end the rest.

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Speaker 4: Of the day.

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Speaker 3: But you might have to go pick up an offensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: You may have to go pick up a corner or

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Speaker 3: Day three options for if the Cowboys take their roadmap

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Speaker 3: one way with positions in the first round, got and

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Speaker 2: Offensive lineman being a tackle or guard or just a guard.

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Speaker 4: We'll say, we'll say a tackle or a guard.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, okay, I think I think both are

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Speaker 4: A possibility, not a likelihood.

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Speaker 3: What are some day to Day three guys you would

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Speaker 2: I think they would absolutely take Zavala from North Carolina State,

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Speaker 7: A long time ago. Zavala.

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Speaker 2: I think Bradford from LSU would be a consideration there. Steen,

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Speaker 6: Talk to me about Talk to me, y'all, Talk to y'all,

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Speaker 6: talk me into Bradford.

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Speaker 5: I'm all about Bradford.

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Speaker 6: Somebody do it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and the fourth round I would be all about him.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't look like an amazing athlete, but I think

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Speaker 5: it better with his hand fighting. That was the one

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Speaker 5: the SEC championship game, he really wowed me in that one.

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Speaker 5: He stood out, he flashed and I think Anthony Bradford.

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Speaker 5: To me, if you were to not get one of

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Speaker 5: be my number one guard target in the fourth.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So to me, if it was guard targets, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I I like what you're saying. I should you have

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Speaker 7: Other way on?

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Speaker 6: I just I just want to know more about him, Okay, I.

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Speaker 2: Would all right now if you're if you're talking about

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Speaker 2: Bergeron is gone in the third round. So to me,

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Speaker 2: if you told me, if you told me like, okay,

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Speaker 2: I could get Bergeron. If Bergeron or Bradford's there in

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Speaker 2: the third or Zavala, I'm taking Bergeron's who I'm taking.

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Speaker 5: Let me throw out this name for you guys. This

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Speaker 5: would be a Day three Player's got one after you

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Speaker 5: me later.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And this, this guyd to me is being slept on

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Speaker 5: a little bit. Ryan Hayes from Michigan. Okay, big guy,

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Speaker 5: six foot seven. I saw him throw people around, man,

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Speaker 5: I watched him against Penn State.

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Speaker 4: I have him right now.

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Speaker 5: Probably the fifth that's I have him.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I have him as player one't eighty two, So

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I mean interrupt, No, And I think he'd

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Speaker 5: be great Valve Brown. He's got a good bays. He's athletic,

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Speaker 5: he can get out in space, gets to the second level.

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Speaker 5: I thought he dominated van Ness in the Iowa game.

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Speaker 4: He fires off the ball.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 7: I'm just fires off the ball. I'm just kidding. I'm

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Speaker 5: Shots drives in the run game. He's got power. I mean, heck.

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Speaker 5: He was a starter for two college football playoff teams

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Speaker 7: Got I scouted his dad.

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Speaker 5: And he went late Day three because people thought, oh,

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Speaker 5: he's not that athletic, he's too tall. I think Ryan

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Speaker 5: Hayes is a better prospect.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: I to me that I think you got the guy

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Speaker 2: for Michigan. I think he will project to the right side. Okay,

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Speaker 7: I think that's super important with what you have to

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Speaker 2: I think there's some balance and position issues, but not

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Speaker 2: of felt like, I don't know if I want him

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Speaker 2: that but he does run his guy past the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: but watch that Iowa game exactly what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: I I don't I think you're absolute right. I think

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Speaker 7: I don't think Ryan Hayes is a bad get there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Also too, I mean I gave him crap when

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Speaker 7: Same bottle of wine.

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Speaker 3: For those guys are shot them touching tags. It's seventeen

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Speaker 5: They lacked the bend right, yeah, because they're so tall

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Speaker 6: Oh absolutely, he tested super well, obviously, but I felt like,

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Speaker 6: I saw how he tested the combine. Very bar to

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Speaker 6: So but when you look at tape, you say, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Like I'm scared about these edgy bendy speed rushers coming

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Speaker 2: That's you got him. Movement is key to this guy's game.

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Speaker 2: It is not about I mean, but I said, for

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Speaker 2: know did He's a little stiff and he's he's six ' eight, Brian,

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know, that's the kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: But I think he needs to be the scheme where

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Speaker 2: it's more athletic based than power based, yes, if that

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Speaker 5: I think Hayes plays more power.

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Speaker 4: He's more of a power.

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Speaker 6: Guys well, which is what I personally feel like a

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Speaker 6: lot of it dependent on the flavor, like you talk

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Speaker 6: of offenses are looking for more athletic offensive line because

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Speaker 6: the guys, even the guys that have power, we're excited

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Speaker 6: like that? That's the problem that people worry about. What

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Speaker 6: Osar's torrents and stuff like, how well do you do

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Speaker 6: So yeah, these offensive linemen do need to be athletes.

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Speaker 6: I think this guy could be in the fifth round.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I know a lot of people have him

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Speaker 4: I've got I don't think you're I don't think you're wrong.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you.

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Speaker 5: I'll throw one more name at you. I had one though, Okay,

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Speaker 5: you go for it.

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Speaker 7: So I know we're in the sport code today.

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Speaker 4: It looks Hey, thanks man.

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Speaker 3: Jalen Duncan, offensive tackle from Maryland L Day two.

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Speaker 6: Guys, he was a guy. He was a guy that

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Speaker 6: Brian was kind of interested in early but fell I

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Speaker 5: People kind of pushed him down the border line to

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Speaker 5: hear it.

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Speaker 7: You want to hear it from Maryland? Right? I got

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Speaker 7: I got him in the fourth round.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I got him.

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Speaker 2: He's player one thirty six for me on my on

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Speaker 2: my board. So let you want me, just you want

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Speaker 2: me to get you, let me keep Duncan here. Uh, Jalen

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Speaker 2: He's the start left tackle for the Terps. He does

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Speaker 2: He's got really good He's a really good foot athlete.

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Speaker 2: The movement for a man his size, he's a movement

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Speaker 7: The balance, the body control is all there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't see a guy that gets over

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Speaker 7: The base is ready to go.

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Speaker 2: He could get some movement in the running game, he

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Speaker 7: Of that stuff.

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Speaker 2: So the only thing is I kind of dinged him

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Speaker 7: But he needs a little bit better sustain a little bit.

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Speaker 2: You know that sometimes you get that one shot and

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Speaker 5: For the position, very athletic, and I don't know, I

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Speaker 6: He loves his chest open sometimes play. Yeah, yeah, he

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Speaker 6: loves his chest open sometimes. Sometimes I think the hand

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Speaker 6: close proximity somewhat, so I like that on the radar.

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Speaker 4: Just ben eye on him. That's kind of why.

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Speaker 7: He's a good player and real good athlete for sure.

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Speaker 3: And I love working with you guys because my pros

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Speaker 3: for him are his best rate is control and balance,

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Speaker 3: like what Brian just said, and my cons are play

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Speaker 3: strength and hand placements.

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Speaker 7: If that's the case, if you're agreeing with us, then.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, get on this.

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Speaker 2: You want to be a little bit like, aha, we

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Speaker 2: you don't always agree with us, and then that way

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Speaker 2: when it turns out she's right and we're wrong.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I do want to get to Twitter on the

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Speaker 3: twenty quickly. But you had another name, Yeah, just one name.

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Speaker 3: And this is a small school cat, all right, Grand

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Speaker 3: Valley State.

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Speaker 4: Quinton Barrow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Quinton Barrow, small school.

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Speaker 7: I watched.

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Speaker 5: I was only able to find a couple of games

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Speaker 5: on him. He's a tackle, he started at left tackle.

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Speaker 7: Can you tell me what their nicknames are?

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Speaker 5: I think he's a guard. Grand Valley State, don't ask

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Speaker 5: me questions. Lakers, the Lakers, Lakers perfect, that's I guess

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Speaker 5: there's a bunch of lakes there in the Grand Valley.

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Speaker 5: I was about to say, there is again que U

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Speaker 5: I N T O N and then Barrow. And he's

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Speaker 5: the guy that moves his feet really well. He's in

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Speaker 5: solid base. I think he looks athletic enough to be

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Speaker 5: able to move in space and poll. He's got a

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Speaker 5: good skill set to work with like he's a developmental player.

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Speaker 5: I think he needs to improve his hand fighting, but

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Speaker 5: he stays in front of his guy who wins a

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Speaker 5: lot of one v one opportunities. I think he's a

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Speaker 5: fifth rounder that has value at guard with upside, So

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Speaker 5: I'd kick him inside. I wouldn't play him at tackle,

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Speaker 5: but as a small school prospect. I like him quite

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Speaker 5: a bit.

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Speaker 2: He's six ' five, he's three thirty, and you're right.

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Speaker 2: He was a left tackle for the Lakers. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: give up any ground when you watch him, what.

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Speaker 7: He's gonna take over? You have, Anthony Davis, are you

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Speaker 7: having Are you having basketball flashbacks over there? I heard

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Speaker 7: you on the radio talking Golden State Warriors last night.

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Speaker 7: People don't know, like just like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she knows more about this basketball stuff, but you don't.

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Speaker 2: I could tell you what you were talking about to apologize, don't.

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Speaker 7: You don't hide your feelings about that.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 7: But this guy's got.

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Speaker 2: Excellent awareness and blocking vision. When you watch him play,

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Speaker 2: I mean he's pick he's always looking for someone to hit.

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Speaker 2: He does have a nasty attitude because he'll try and

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Speaker 2: finish his guys off. He buries opponents. He played in

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Speaker 2: the East West game and he's not the most polished blocker.

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Speaker 2: But I think he's got the right attitude about blocking.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I like it. Small school guys.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna hit some small school guys in the third

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Speaker 3: segment as well.

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Speaker 4: Maybe some of these guys over there under the radar.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna hit it in the third segment.

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Speaker 3: But when we come back, we got some Twitter on

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Speaker 2: And I've got a surprise for you guys, live from

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Speaker 7: We have mister David Hellman on the show.

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Speaker 10: What's up, Dave?

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Speaker 4: Holly Woo?

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Speaker 10: Can I can I just tell y'all something real quick?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Please?

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Speaker 9: Every time I check in on the show, like I'm

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Speaker 9: out here in regular media land, where you know, if

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Speaker 9: you're talking draft, it's b Jon Robinson or quarterbacks and

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Speaker 9: every time I check in on the show, y'all are

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Speaker 9: telling me about a guard from Grand Valley. That is

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Speaker 9: the value of the Draft show, right there, Like miss me,

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Speaker 9: miss me with all the cliche stuff, and just tell

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Speaker 9: me about some badasses from the meac.

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Speaker 2: You know that bus league. Man, you got to grab

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Speaker 2: a player or two from the bus league, right you know?

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Speaker 7: Got that.

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Speaker 9: Look, I'm totally I'm gonna take everything I just learned

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Speaker 9: in the first segment and pretend like I watched all

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Speaker 9: those guys, so I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You know, David, I remember this about you when you

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Speaker 2: came to work at dallascowboys dot com. Like nobody wanted

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Speaker 2: you on a show, but you we took you on

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Speaker 2: the Draft Show. So you're a big, big You're a

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Speaker 2: big part of this man. You're a big part of

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Speaker 2: what we do.

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Speaker 10: You know, you're now.

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Speaker 2: You're on TV making hundreds of millions of dollars because

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Speaker 2: you were on the Draft Show.

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Speaker 10: Of millions.

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Speaker 9: Let's not let's not let's not exact rate, all right,

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Speaker 9: let's not do that.

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Speaker 10: But no, but I think you know that's a good point.

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Speaker 10: Maybe that's why I love the Draft so much.

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Speaker 9: As it was the first like home I found in

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Speaker 9: football media, and I'm glad that. I'm glad y'all obviously

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Speaker 9: I'm glad y'all are carrying it on. But like, yeah,

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Speaker 9: like I'm loving the new cast. I love, you know,

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Speaker 9: people getting the shot to show their stuff. Y'all are

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Speaker 9: killing it. Man, this is awesome.

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Speaker 4: I love the tour that we're getting him here.

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Speaker 7: What it's like, it's Blair Witch project right now? What

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Speaker 7: are you doing?

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Speaker 10: Do you all have? I didn't realize you're on camera.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're camera.

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Speaker 2: You're drinking whiskey and you're and you're on camera, so

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Speaker 2: you like the hood up it's coffee.

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Speaker 9: Okay, Well I'm glad y'all told me that before I

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Speaker 9: like changed outfits for today.

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Speaker 2: We got to know, you gotta go put on that

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Speaker 2: royal blue blazer you wear with the green scarf for

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Speaker 2: something years.

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Speaker 9: It's my my glamorous, my glamorous Los Angeles apartment.

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Speaker 4: It's sideways day.

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Speaker 7: It's sideways in the Sideways camp going Dave. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 7: like you're a villainy batman and there you go. I'm

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Speaker 7: thirty four.

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Speaker 10: He doesn't cooperate with me the way it used to.

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Speaker 2: All Right, hey, you said National Media. You talked about Bijon.

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Speaker 2: Are you are people totally buying into all that? I

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Speaker 2: kind of we all feel like that the Cowboys are

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Speaker 2: will take him if he's there at twenty six. Do

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Speaker 2: you feel the same way? Are you kind of dancing

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Speaker 2: somewhere else?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 9: I mean, if if Bijon's there, I think the Cowboys

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Speaker 9: would run to the podium, unless unless something crazier happens,

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Speaker 9: Like I don't know, you know, if if if like

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Speaker 9: a Jackson Smith and Jigbu fell twenty six or something

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Speaker 9: crazy like that, maybe you think about it. But I

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Speaker 9: have a feeling, Jon No, I know for a fact

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Speaker 9: Bijon's gonna start being the best prospect on the board

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Speaker 9: after like the eighth PI or maybe even earlier than that.

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Speaker 10: So yeah, I absolutely think Cowboys would do it. I

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Speaker 10: just think you lose me when you're talking about like

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Speaker 10: trading up into the teens. Yeah, to do it.

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Speaker 9: That's and that's kind of that's the smoke screen that

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Speaker 10: But that's what I love about.

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Speaker 9: That's what I love about the Draft show is like

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Speaker 9: I mean, y'all know y'all have cut through the bs,

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Speaker 9: like weeks ago, and I will say it seems like

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Speaker 9: it's harder than ever to know what the Cowboys are doing.

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Speaker 10: Whether that's a credit to Mike McCarthy or whoever. But

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Speaker 10: even still, I think, I think.

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Speaker 9: If you listen to this show, you have a much

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Speaker 9: better idea of what to expect than most. And yeah,

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Speaker 9: if Bjon's there, I think they would do it. But

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Speaker 9: other than that, I'm not expecting anything crazy.

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Speaker 3: What if Bjon's not available, if he's not there at

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Speaker 3: all and he goes kind of where he's expected, like

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Speaker 3: maybe in those teens and the Cowboys stick and pick

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Speaker 3: a twenty six, who do you think would be the

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Speaker 3: most likely from the outside looking in like this, of

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Speaker 3: where they could end up being making that pick? Okay,

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Speaker 3: So I mean sitting down by the way, I was

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Speaker 3: really I was really worried about you man.

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Speaker 10: When your you and your motion, you and your motions.

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Speaker 2: I was I was getting, you know exactly what I

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Speaker 2: was thinking, exactly.

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Speaker 7: He knows, exactly knows me, he knows when he's moving

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Speaker 7: around like that, I couldn't even watch.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, can you get okay? Can I just use this space.

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Speaker 4: And talk about a player what I want?

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00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I'm gonna.

663
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 10: Like, We've all we all know about the tight ends.

664
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 10: We all know.

665
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 9: I think Darnell Wright is obviously a name that's gotten

666
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 9: a lot of attention in the last like week, week

667
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 9: or two.

668
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 10: But the two names. If I could wave a.

669
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 9: Magic wand and put a guy on the team, uh,

670
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 9: the two, I'll say too because they played the same position.

671
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 9: I love Smith and even more realistically than that, just

672
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,959
Speaker 9: reading tea leaves and connecting the dots and you know,

673
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 9: talking to people back in Dallas, Will McDonald would make

674
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 9: me incredibly happy.

675
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 10: And it sounds like it sounds like the DC loves him.

676
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 9: Obviously dan quinn worked him out, just like he worked

677
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 9: out Sam Williams last year.

678
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 10: I think Will McDonald is a badass.

679
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 9: I think he would be there. I think he fits

680
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 9: what dan quinn likes to do. I watched him at

681
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 9: Iowa State. I don't really think they knew what they

682
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 9: were doing with him. Say that I would be I

683
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 9: would be ecstatic about that pick. I think you know,

684
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 9: we sit here and say, oh, you don't really have

685
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 9: any needs, take the best guy available. Well, Will McDonald

686
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 9: plays a premium position. You wouldn't need him to do

687
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 9: a Ton right away because obviously the pass rush has

688
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 9: plenty of veterans, but the long term future of DeMarcus

689
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 9: Lawrence is a question mark. Dante Fowler is only back

690
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 9: for one year, one hundred percent know what you have

691
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 9: in sam uh and I just I love the thought

692
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 9: of having pass rushers, So either one of those two,

693
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 9: Nolan Smith.

694
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 10: Or Will McDonald would make me very very happy.

695
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 9: But I have I feel like there's more smoke about

696
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 9: Will McDonald, like I haven't.

697
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 10: I haven't really heard.

698
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 9: Anything about Nolan Smith and the Cowboys, although the way

699
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 9: the Cowboys have played it.

700
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 10: The last few years, maybe that's a good thing.

701
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 9: They've done a much better job at keeping it close

702
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 9: to the chest than they did in previous years.

703
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: Do they, Dave, do you think that maybe they they

704
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: feel like that Nolan Smith might not be there that

705
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: kind of a do they do that? Maybe that's why

706
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: we're not here in a bunch of the smoke, because

707
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of smoke about Jon Robinson either

708
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: other than you know, the stuff that people in the

709
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: national level and what we're talking about here in the

710
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 2: draft show.

711
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 7: But is it one of those things where they're like,

712
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 7: could it.

713
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 2: Be ceedee lamb all over in that draft where all

714
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: of a sudden one of those guys shows up and

715
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: if you just hand the card in and away we go.

716
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 9: Absolutely, and everything I know about Nolan Smith is he's

717
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 9: the tie.

718
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 10: You know.

719
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 9: I don't get the impression you need to do a

720
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 9: ton of homework on him, Like he seems like a

721
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 9: high character kid, high football IQ kid. Yeah, that's possible.

722
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 9: I think he's interesting to me because his size. You know,

723
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 9: he's only like two hundred and thirty five hundred and

724
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 9: forty pounds. His size, like the range of where he

725
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 9: like where he falls is all over the place. Like

726
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 9: some people have him as like a surefire top fifteen pick.

727
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 9: Some people think of him more in Dallas's range because

728
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 9: of the size. I don't think he should be there

729
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 9: when the Cowboys pick, But if he is, I would

730
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 9: be very, very excited if they draft.

731
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a party for Nolan Smith. Are you

732
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 5: anti tight end in the first round?

733
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 6: I can feel the anti day. I can feel it

734
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 6: through the phone.

735
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 10: No, that's not true. That okay, So here's my thing.

736
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 9: It's the It's honestly, it's very similar to Bijon Robinson

737
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 9: and I actually wrote a story about it for Fox.

738
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 9: The other I guess a month or so ago at

739
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 9: this point is just I mean, yeah, the track record

740
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 9: of first round tight end sucks.

741
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 10: There's no way around it. It's not good.

742
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 9: But the same way we talk about there being a

743
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 9: massive difference between drafting Bijon at twenty six and drafting

744
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 9: Zeke at four. I mean we say this every single year,

745
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 9: there's only like sixteen or seventeen first round grades. Like, yeah,

746
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 9: pick twenty six is first round in name only, So

747
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 9: I don't I don't hate drafting a tight end, although

748
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 9: I will say this is just me.

749
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 10: I feel like Brian may be gonna argue with me.

750
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 9: I don't know, but you know, give me, Michael, give

751
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 9: me the sure thing, Like if that's what we're doing.

752
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 10: Give me Michael Mayer. Give me the ready made guy

753
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 10: that can do it all right away. Like I don't

754
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 10: want don't don't draft trades guy. Don't draft trades.

755
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 9: Guy at twenty six, Like, don't draft project guy. Or

756
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 9: you know, Luke musk Graves, the guy who barely played

757
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 9: because of injuries. I'm terrified of Dalton Kincaid. I'm terrified

758
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 9: of Luke Muskgrave is maybe not a sexy pick.

759
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 7: But Kinkaid. The problem with Kinkaid is it the back?

760
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 7: Is it something like that?

761
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 9: I mean, the back doesn't the back doesn't help. But

762
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 9: then I watched a few of his games. I'm not

763
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 9: gonna lie and say I watched like every game he's played,

764
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 9: but I watched a handful of games and I was like,

765
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 9: this guy is the same problem with every young tight

766
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 9: end ever, which is to say, like he doesn't help

767
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 9: you in the running game at all, which say what

768
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 9: you will, but you know, the Cowboys want to do that.

769
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 9: Like it's fine for you and me to say, so what,

770
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 9: he's going to stretch the seam, But you got to

771
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 9: draft for the team that you I mean, you're drafting

772
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 9: for the team that you have, and the Cowboys want

773
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 9: to run the hell out of the ball. Mike McCarthy

774
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 9: said it himself. So I don't want the guy who

775
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 9: you're gonna get down inside the ten yard line and

776
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 9: he's not going to be able to help. He's gonna, like,

777
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 9: you know, be playing ola like a bullfighter with with defenders.

778
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 10: No thank you.

779
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 9: I don't think. I don't think Don kincaid is a

780
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 9: plus blocker. And the injury bothers me, So yeah, give

781
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 9: me I mean of the of the big ones. I'd

782
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 9: be happy with Darnell Washington too, Like, give me the

783
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 9: guys that can actually help in the run game in.

784
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 10: Addition to being very good receiver.

785
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he lit us up.

786
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: And in the SEC Championship game catching the ball down

787
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: the middle of the field and stuff. I mean every

788
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 2: time you watch Washington a red zone, Yeah, he's tough

789
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: like that.

790
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 7: Dave.

791
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: They real quick on the Like, I'm interested about the

792
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: quarterbacks with you, with Hindon Hooker Richardson, who you taken

793
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: of those kind of those those two guys, if just

794
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: from the quarterback perspective.

795
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 10: Uh, where where are we talking about?

796
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 4: I'm just talking about, how who do you like?

797
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: If you had to take Hindon Hooker or you had

798
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: to take Richardson, which one would you take? Because there's

799
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: people that think, did you take either the first round

800
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: to take either one of them?

801
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 10: Yeah?

802
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 9: I think after a certain point, like Annony Richardson scares

803
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 9: the hell out of me because again, I mean again, Brian,

804
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 9: you and I are SEC football fanatics.

805
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 10: I mean I'm wearing an LSB hoodie right now.

806
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

807
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 9: I My thing with quarterbacks is like, at some point

808
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 9: I would like to see it.

809
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 10: I would actually like to see it in a game.

810
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 10: I would like to see you.

811
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 9: I think in order to be a top tier quarterback prospect,

812
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 9: you should have at some point lifted your program to

813
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 9: a level that it hasn't been before.

814
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 10: And I like, that's why I was anti Daniel Jones.

815
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 9: I was anti I was anti Josh Allen, which that

816
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 9: one obviously I blew up in my face, But like,

817
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 9: I want to see you do it at the college

818
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 9: level to spend a big pick on you.

819
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 10: So Anthony Richardson scares the hell out of me.

820
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 4: But like, if you're.

821
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 10: Talking outside the top twenty, all bets are off.

822
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 9: Like after that point, I would, of course I would

823
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 9: take a chance on his on his physical abilities like

824
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 9: that they're too He's too talented to ignore after a

825
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 9: certain point.

826
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 10: But it's just like the top five is where I'm like,

827
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 10: are you doing here?

828
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 9: Like I've watched this guy play and I just feel

829
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 9: like I should have seen it if he was really

830
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 9: worth that type of pick.

831
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: All right, So while you wrapped your LSU Tiger gear,

832
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 5: I got to ask you about Kishan Bute. He might

833
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 5: be one of the more confusing prospects in this class.

834
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 5: He could end up being maybe the best.

835
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 6: Receiver we haven't talked about him Mayne, or he.

836
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 5: Could be out of the freaking league in a couple

837
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 5: of years.

838
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 9: If you had asked me this question in September, I

839
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 9: would have been like, Yeah, first round pick, top of

840
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 9: the line, what are we.

841
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 10: Even talking about?

842
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 6: Man?

843
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 10: Like I think starting in the fourth round.

844
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 9: I think you talk about it because the talent, Like,

845
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 9: there is talent, there, there's production.

846
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 10: You know, he's one of the best receivers in the

847
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 10: league for two years.

848
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 9: But like turn on the twenty twenty two tape and

849
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 9: I don't see it, Like the concentration isn't there, the

850
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 9: attention to detail, just like drop after drop after drop.

851
00:37:58,880 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 10: He had a few good games.

852
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 9: He had really nice game against Florida, but like, like

853
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 9: the concentration, I think, I think being such a big

854
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 9: time prospect completely went to his head, you know, like

855
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 9: they lost a game and he like deleted his Instagram

856
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 9: and then he didn't play in the Bowl game because

857
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 9: of some off field stuff, which if you want to

858
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 9: have a fun afternoon, search that on the internet and see.

859
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 7: What comes out.

860
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 5: Atlanta a lot of trains.

861
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, he had. He had a good time in Atlanta.

862
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 10: From what it sounds like, I would not. I would.

863
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 10: I've said this a million times.

864
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 9: If you're an old school listener of the show, I

865
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 9: owe it to you to say it at least once. Like,

866
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 9: the top one hundred are the picks that I really

867
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 9: value on a different level, I would not spend a

868
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 9: top one hundred pick on him, like I said, starting

869
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 9: in like the fourth round. You could talk me into

870
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 9: it because of the body of work, but like, I

871
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 9: don't feel good about it. And it's it sucks too because,

872
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 9: like I said, I think he was on his way

873
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 9: to being a top twenty pick and the wheels completely

874
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 9: fell off.

875
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 10: On field production and like off field ability too.

876
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 2: Dave, I'm gonna make your head explode even more now,

877
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: Eli Ris it went from l s U to Alabama, So.

878
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 5: I mean an Dave, tell him no, go Tigers, we

879
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 5: got some go.

880
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 10: Wait what do you what do you think about Rix Brian?

881
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what you watched the Mississippi State game.

882
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: You would take him in the You would take him

883
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: in the first round. The way he played in that

884
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: football that.

885
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 7: Was the best game. Yeah, And the thing about it.

886
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 10: Is okay, what about all the other games?

887
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm saying, though there's there's there's games

888
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: where I to me, I don't think you've seen this

889
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: guy play a lot of football. That's the problem I

890
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: have with this guy. But but you know how I

891
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 2: always we always when we were working together, David, it

892
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 2: was always like if you see it once, you can

893
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: see it again kind of thing.

894
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 4: I think this guy is all over the board. I

895
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 4: really do.

896
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: I think there's some people that really really like him,

897
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: you know, for his ability, the link the way he plays,

898
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: and then there's something like oh no mom, dad, or

899
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 2: too involved this that and the other, you know kind

900
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 2: of a thing. He's a coddled player, you know, he

901
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: never could get settled. You know, why why did it

902
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 2: not always work at Alabama? I just think he's one

903
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: of those guys that to me is are really a mystery.

904
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: But he's he's got ability. That's that's the thing that

905
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm kind of the scout in me is like, you know,

906
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: looking at right now.

907
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 9: I hate I hate to judge one player for the

908
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 9: transgressions of another, but it just sounded like you could

909
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 9: have just taken the name out of that and it's

910
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 9: even similar because he started at the same school.

911
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 10: You could take the name Joseph. It sounds like you're

912
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 10: talking about Kelvin Joseph Barnacles. Yeah, that's what it sounds like.

913
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 9: I mean, like, look, he's there's no doubt in my

914
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 9: mind that he's talented. But and look like I hope

915
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 9: anybody that knows me no, like I have an objective

916
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 9: view about this stuff outside of the moment, Like I

917
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 9: don't care that Eli Rich left LSU if he thought

918
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 9: that was the best opportunity for him, but he went

919
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 9: to a new school, struggled to find any consistency, Like

920
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 9: wasn't a mainstay on the field all the time. And

921
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 9: then on top of that, like by virtue of going there,

922
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 9: I have connections at LSU. Not a whole lot great

923
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 9: to say about him on his way out the door, and.

924
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 10: The production's not there. I don't know.

925
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 9: Again, like, once you get to a certain point, I

926
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 9: think the talent is enough that you take a chance

927
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 9: on him. But like again we're talking, I keep seeing

928
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 9: all these mock drafts where people are drafting Eli Ricks

929
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 9: in the top one hundred, and I'm like, aw, why

930
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 9: that feels so rich to me?

931
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 7: See that's what I'm saying.

932
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 10: Though nobody can touch that doesn't match.

933
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. It's That's the thing about it is.

934
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 2: Do you wonder if teams are like kind of turning

935
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 2: their turning away from the Uh you know, maybe Nick

936
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: Saban is actually saying some good things about him.

937
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 7: You know, I don't know, but could but you do

938
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 7: watch him play.

939
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 9: It Saban's best interest to get his players drafted, So

940
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 9: I don't really know how much I care about that.

941
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a good point.

942
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 10: I mean, look, this is this is the ultimate. This

943
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 10: is this is me and Brian in a nutshell.

944
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 9: Is like Brian wants to take the chance on the

945
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 9: talented guy, and I like the safe thing, Like I

946
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 9: want I want the guy that I feel like I'm

947
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 9: not gonna have to worry about. And I know you

948
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 9: can't have that every single time, but like, let that

949
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 9: be somebody else's problem, or again.

950
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 7: Let somebody else be a hero the draft.

951
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, he let me have.

952
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 9: Let me have the Michael Mayers of the world and

953
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 9: just be like, yeah, we're gonna you know, this will

954
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 9: be great. It's not it's boring, but we're gonna have

955
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 9: productive football players that we don't have to worry.

956
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 7: About So I haven't got to call you a coward

957
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 7: then in a long time.

958
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 10: That I am.

959
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 9: I'm a draft coward, Brian being a cowardout Like I

960
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 9: don't like to thank you.

961
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 6: I just hey, David, So I wanted to ask you,

962
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 6: by the way, but I wanted to add I know,

963
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 6: I know, yoh. So a lot of talk about offensive line, man, Like,

964
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 6: is there one position on the Cowboys right now that

965
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 6: you feel like if you plug and play one of

966
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 6: these draft players in the first round, like it's they're

967
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 6: gonna get better, They're gonna take that next step and

968
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 6: it can really make a difference next year. What position

969
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 6: is it for you don't think.

970
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 9: I mean, I mean not counting Bijon right because I

971
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 9: think I mean if you plug him, if you plug

972
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 9: him into that offense, I do think he would be

973
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 9: incredibly successful. I know that that's not really the point

974
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 9: plug and play. I mean, I think I think that's

975
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 9: probably that's probably why I've talked myself into Michael Mayer,

976
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 9: because I think he steps right in and is a

977
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 9: part of that rotation immediately. Like maybe he's not a

978
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 9: one hundred percent of the snaps player, but like sixty

979
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 9: or more. He would be part of your twelve personnel

980
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 9: package with Jake Ferguson. He might even I mean he

981
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 9: might be your starting regular tight end over Jake Ferguson.

982
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 9: I think he could step in and catch forty plus

983
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 9: balls right away.

984
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 10: I don't think that's a stretch.

985
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 9: I mean, I know another guy that's really popular, like Steve,

986
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 9: Steve Avilla, Steve Avilla, however you pronounce it from TCU like, yes, absolutely,

987
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 9: like steps right in and upgrades the offensive line. My

988
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 9: thing is, it's just the classic case of twenty six

989
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 9: fields too soon and fifty eight feels too late.

990
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 10: So I don't really know how to answer that question,

991
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 10: but I think.

992
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 9: He would absolutely upgrade the offensive line right away. And

993
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 9: that's why, you know, if they did decide to draft

994
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 9: him at twenty six. I'm at the point with these guys,

995
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 9: and I think Tyler Smith really hammered it home last

996
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 9: year where I'm just like, all right, do what you

997
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 9: want to do, and I'm going to wait and.

998
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 10: See how it plays out before I get too upset.

999
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 9: Because I think Will McClay and his guys have earned

1000
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 9: the be benefit of the doubt. So if they were

1001
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 9: to draft somebody like him at twenty six, I would

1002
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 9: be like, Yeah, this is probably going to work and

1003
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 9: people probably aren't going to have too much to say

1004
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 9: six months from now.

1005
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 4: There you go.

1006
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 5: Okay, So if you want to get a little crazy

1007
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 5: with me here, Dave, sure thing, we want to fix

1008
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 5: this offensive line? Why don't we go up and go

1009
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 5: get Pete s Koronski?

1010
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 10: Why? Like, what are what are we giving up to

1011
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 10: go up? That's what I always ask.

1012
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 5: You're probably having to give up with two yep to

1013
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 5: go up and get them. But your offensive line is solidified.

1014
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 4: Just by the reaction and then the sip of the coffee.

1015
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 4: He's not interested.

1016
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 9: Here's my thing, and I'm stealing this talking point from

1017
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 9: other people. I definitely didn't come up with it.

1018
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 10: But like, no, you made it until you make it, Bryan,

1019
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 10: I gotta go. I just I think there's a whole

1020
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 10: Brian throwing me off as usual.

1021
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 9: I think there's a whole generation of cowboy fans who,

1022
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 9: you know, they saw how well it worked to just

1023
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 9: throw first round, first round picks at the offensive line,

1024
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 9: and I mean it did work, but I'm just like,

1025
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 9: how many resources do you need to use on the line?

1026
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 10: In order for it to be successful.

1027
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 9: Like, why is this team the only team that can't

1028
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 9: find badasses on day.

1029
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 10: Two and day three?

1030
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 9: And I mean, you know, Tyler Biatis has developed into

1031
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 9: a nice player, but Connor Williams and Connor McGovern never

1032
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 9: really stuck the way people wanted them to. None of

1033
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 9: the like mid round investments they've made at tackle have

1034
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 9: really worked out, from Chaz Green on down. But like,

1035
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 9: but you should be able to if you've got Zach

1036
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 9: Martin and you've got Tyler Smith and Tyron Smith is

1037
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 9: still giving you something, you should be able to find

1038
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 9: a left guard without trading up into the top twelve

1039
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 9: to do it and getting rid of another pick. By

1040
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 9: the way, the second round pick could be Cedric till

1041
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 9: Or or a tight end if you don't take a

1042
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 9: tight end in the first round.

1043
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 10: Like I just I love having those picks too much.

1044
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 9: And at some point the Cowboys should be able to

1045
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 9: find a guard somewhere other.

1046
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 10: Than the top fifteen. That's just how I feel.

1047
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 3: About And I don't think you're the only one that

1048
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: feels that way either. I think the people across the

1049
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: building probably feel that way more so than they do

1050
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 3: on the other side of it of potentially trading up

1051
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 3: and going and using those picks. Freaking cowards man, cowards right, Dave,

1052
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: real quickly, we got to let you go.

1053
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 4: But before we do number one draft need for the Cowboys.

1054
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 4: They have to.

1055
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 3: Leave next weekend with this position group. Who do they

1056
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: need to go get? And it's like a non negotiable.

1057
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 10: Having just said that, I wouldn't do that trade.

1058
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 9: I think the only non negotiable is that they've got

1059
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 9: to find some competition at.

1060
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 10: The left guard spot.

1061
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 9: Like I just if you look at the roster, that's

1062
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 9: really the only spot. Like if they don't get a cornerback,

1063
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 9: it's a problem for next year, but they can get

1064
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 9: through this year if they don't get a running back

1065
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 9: you know, Ronald Jones, Tony Pollard and Ezekiel Elliott.

1066
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 10: Like, oh season with.

1067
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 9: That, I'm just hey, I'm just saying, like every every

1068
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 9: position group on the team, defensive tackles in the same way,

1069
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 9: like would you love to add to it, of course,

1070
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 9: but can you play games with can you even? I

1071
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 9: mean again, linebacker is another spot where I think they

1072
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 9: would they need help.

1073
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 10: Don't get me wrong, but I always keep in the

1074
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 10: back of.

1075
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 9: My mind Jaron Curse and Donovan Wilson are basically linebackers anyway,

1076
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 9: Like they're at to do so much stuff in the

1077
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 9: box that when you add those two with Leyton and

1078
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 9: Clark and Cox, it's not it's not good, but it

1079
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 9: could be good enough. Whereas guard, maybe it's just because

1080
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 9: I haven't seen Udoma play yet, but I just look

1081
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 9: at left guard and I'm like, I don't think you

1082
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 9: want to play a game with what you have there,

1083
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 9: at least not without having a competition. So not saying

1084
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 9: it has to be the first round, but one of

1085
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 9: those first four picks I feel like needs to be

1086
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 9: an interior offensive lineman.

1087
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: How about that?

1088
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: A little breaking news from David Hellman of Fox Sports.

1089
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 3: Ezekiel Elliott is returning to the Dallas Cowboys for the

1090
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three seats and yeah.

1091
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 10: Throw aggregate that throw that up there.

1092
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 3: No, Dave, we love you, we appreciate you, we miss

1093
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 3: you every day here on the Draft Show, we keep

1094
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 3: up with you the entire time. We're doing a fantastic job.

1095
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: Keep doing the good work out there, buddy.

1096
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 10: Hey, I'm not kidding. I keep an eye on y'all too.

1097
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 10: I love the Draft Show. I love that y'all are

1098
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 10: still doing this. Best of luck next week.

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Speaker 9: I am going to have some serious fomo when the

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Speaker 9: draft rolls around and I'm not going through every pick

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Speaker 9: with y'all, so.

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Speaker 3: Doors always a little bit yeah, pop on any time

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Speaker 3: we put on that tie, David, come on here.

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Speaker 9: I'll talk to I'll talk to Beemer and see if

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Speaker 9: we can work something out. But if I don't see

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Speaker 9: you kill it this season, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, appreciate you, Dave. We'll talk to you soon. There

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Speaker 4: we go, David Helmer.

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Speaker 6: Moves you with his coffee.

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Speaker 4: Now, oh coffee.

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Speaker 3: And then the tour around the apartment was that was

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Speaker 3: an unknown And talk about draft seasons full of surprises,

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Speaker 3: that's part of that was a good surprise.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's take our second break.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, we're gonna gives you some under

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Speaker 3: the radar prospects to maybe keep an eye on the

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Speaker 3: guys that David Hellman really wants to hear about these

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Speaker 3: under the radar guys on day three when we come

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Speaker 3: Let's dive into some of these under the radar prospects again.

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00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: Special thanks to David Hellman for hopping on. Always a

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00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 3: pleasure getting to talk with him.

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00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 4: And I usually I want to start with you.

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00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: There was a Twitter conversation that really sparked this the

1165
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 3: other day where somebody was asking about some of these

1166
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 3: small school guys, maybe even HBCUs. These these group of

1167
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: five maybe lower level prospects.

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00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 4: Anybody that catch your mind, catch your eye.

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00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I got a couple of guys, but I'm

1170
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 6: gonna start with Jadaki's Bonds wide receiver out of Hampton

1171
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 6: six four two ten. This guy can run. He can

1172
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 6: run pretty much every route and to my knowledge, and

1173
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 6: he can get behind you real quick. Like he doesn't

1174
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 6: have a lot of speed, but he just has the

1175
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 6: time and some guys just have the time and to

1176
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 6: just to get behind guys and to create separation. This

1177
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 6: gentleman can high point the ball. He has a lot

1178
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 6: of control over his body, and he's one of those

1179
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 6: guys that can contort at the very last minute and

1180
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 6: make the catch. I think he is a red zone threat.

1181
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 6: I like how fluid he is and he really trusts

1182
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 6: his hands. He's hard to tackle in the open field.

1183
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 6: I think the only thing people would be worried about

1184
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 6: is just because of his size and his frame or whatever.

1185
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 6: As far as like blocking and things like that. But

1186
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 6: I think that he could come in and be a

1187
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 6: receiver that could contribute to a team as like the.

1188
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 4: Third looks like he looks like the highlights are pretty good.

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00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: No, the guy's a baller and he's he's a smart

1191
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 6: football player. He can play. I think he can play

1192
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 6: all over the field. And so you're getting a You're

1193
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 6: getting a baller that understands that he had to work

1194
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 6: his way up. Also to a lot of respect for

1195
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 6: him in the AHPCU community for what he does, and

1196
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 6: I wanted to bring attention to him. Also to Stephen F.

1197
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 6: Austin guy that I was looking at. BJ Thompsons, You're

1198
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 6: no combine invite This gentleman is a Baylor transfer transfer.

1199
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Speaker 6: He ran a four five six and is forty at

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00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 6: twenty and a half sacks over his time there had

1201
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 6: a really good Shrine Bowl six five frame. It really

1202
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 6: pops out on the field. You see him, you just like,

1203
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 6: holy crap. I said that when I see him, his

1204
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 6: stance he looks like venom. Venom. Yeah, he and his

1205
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 6: because he pounces like almost like a like seriously, he like.

1206
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 5: He give me a venom, especially as a rush.

1207
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, the explosion out of his stance is what he

1208
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 6: wins with. Dude, He's he wins with that initial step up.

1209
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 6: He has a lot of burst and his strides along.

1210
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 6: He needs to be stronger in the run game, just

1211
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 6: kind of setting the edge basic d and stuff in

1212
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 6: my opinion. And if you mentioned the competition or whatever

1213
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 6: the case may be, I mean, like I said, you

1214
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 6: can go look at him in the Shrine Bowl playing

1215
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 6: against some of the best people and you can see

1216
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 6: that he's good. And we talked to Will McLay at

1217
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 6: the combine and he mentioned the P word, which is production,

1218
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 6: and this guy has it. And like I said, also too,

1219
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 6: he has coverage ability as well. He showed the ability

1220
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 6: to drop in coverage. He's even as a d N

1221
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 6: and be fluid there, natural reactor, heck of a player.

1222
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 6: I think that he can make a difference on a

1223
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 6: team real quick because he's a past rush specialist.

1224
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 3: I called two of his games this year and in

1225
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 3: one game he had multiple sacks. In the other game

1226
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 3: he had multiple PBUs.

1227
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Speaker 4: So I mean you.

1228
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 3: Talk about production, he's doing it on both levels. And

1229
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 3: that CFA had a really good defense at the FCS level.

1230
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 3: They were really solid on that side of things, So

1231
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 3: he was a big part of that going forward. Brian,

1232
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Speaker 3: who's your guy?

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00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 7: I want to switch it up on you.

1234
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 2: And there's a lot of people talking about Marte Mapu

1235
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: from from Sack State, and he's a guy that's making

1236
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: the thirty visit circle because he didn't go to the

1237
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: Combine and so that's where that's where I think that

1238
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 2: people were talking about him as the Senior Bowl guy

1239
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. He's really, really, really explosive in

1240
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 2: the way that he plays. He's a linebacker safety type

1241
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: of a guy. He lines up in the deep slot

1242
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: quite a bit. I'd say he's not afraid to hit,

1243
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't call him a great tackler. From the games,

1244
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 2: I say he's always near the pile, but not always

1245
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: in the pile. I thought there was more zone coverage

1246
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 2: than man. He tends to kind of hang in the

1247
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 2: area and react from there. His time speed was four

1248
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 2: five eight, but I never really saw him cut it

1249
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 2: loosen in these games. But he appeared more explosive. And

1250
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 2: you watch him in the drills at the Senior Bowl,

1251
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: then you then then how he played at Sack State

1252
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 2: and they were a team. I watched him play Incarnate

1253
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 2: Word and Richmond. Those were playoff games that they were in.

1254
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 2: But the coaches swear this guy's a student of the game.

1255
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 2: Like I say, thirty visit guy. The best thing he

1256
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: does is come down hill and attack the ball. I'm

1257
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: not really sure how much you really want to put

1258
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 2: him in coverage.

1259
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 7: We'll see when he gets to the next level.

1260
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 6: I think he is. When I looked at him, IM

1261
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 6: meanly put down C. J. Goodwin replacement question mark. I

1262
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 6: think he could come in for a team and be

1263
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 6: an absolute gunner. And if you because I think he

1264
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 6: might go in the later rounds, if you wanted him

1265
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 6: to come in and be a straight up gunner, he

1266
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 6: could do it.

1267
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 5: Special teams, versatility.

1268
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 6: Special teams matters out here.

1269
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 4: In absolutely does what do you think it's Zach.

1270
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 5: I gonna give you a Princeton wide receiver Andre Yoshivash

1271
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 5: and this dude's a playmaker. I watched him against Yale, Cornell,

1272
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 5: and Harvard, and if you want to see him dominate

1273
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 5: against IVY League, lower level competition, he does just that.

1274
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 5: He's a vertical threat. He's got good long speed, He's

1275
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 5: going to high point and adjust to the football. Runs

1276
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 5: a lot of drags and crossers. He's got a feel

1277
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 5: for working underneath and getting open. I think he's got good,

1278
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 5: reliable hands. He seems like a guy that would work well,

1279
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 5: in my opinion, in a West Coast offense. The Cowboys

1280
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 5: are going to try and run. He does need to

1281
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 5: improve as a route runner. You see him kind of

1282
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 5: run the same routes over and over again. Needs to

1283
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 5: get a little bit stronger. But I think he's a

1284
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 5: very good Day three prospect that could develop into a

1285
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 5: really good value pick. Big fan of this kid out

1286
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 5: of Princeton.

1287
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 3: I like that lower level competition. Okay, I've got one.

1288
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 3: This is iikena une Chukwu from Rice. He just wanted

1289
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 3: to say. I don't think I said it right though,

1290
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 3: because my computer is currently being hacked. And yeah, that's

1291
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 3: not a nation. By the way, I don't have helmet.

1292
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 3: They sawid opportunity, bad juju and so I don't have

1293
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 3: my pronunciation guide up, but I have my scouting report

1294
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 3: up and it says explosive off the line of scrimmage

1295
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 3: and most physical player on the field and majority of

1296
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 3: his games he has a combo of strength and quickness

1297
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 3: that could.

1298
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 4: Still improve with room to grow into his frame.

1299
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 3: He wasn't clean enough with his hands to detach from

1300
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: blockers on the outside, mostly one with power as opposed

1301
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 3: to finesse on the other side of it. Production. You

1302
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 3: talked about Production. Two time first team All Conference USA.

1303
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 3: He was the best player on that OLS defense. And

1304
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 3: he's the first one that Mike Bloomgren I had a

1305
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 3: phone call with him earlier in the year. He's a

1306
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 3: head coach at RICE. I said, who's your glue guy,

1307
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 3: Who's the number one guy if you had to build around?

1308
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 4: He said, Unchuku is the guy. He is, my dude,

1309
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 4: A student of the game.

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Speaker 3: Continue to play good and if you want to see

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Speaker 3: him against high level competition, he had an impressive game

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Speaker 3: when he had a sack against Heisman Trophy winner Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 3: Took him down to the backfield against usc and the

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Speaker 3: season opener and he had a bat of down pass

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Speaker 3: in that game as well.

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Speaker 7: So he plays a Rice alum too, So keep an eye.

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Speaker 4: You might go get him a Rice guy. Somebody else

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Speaker 4: up there is Rice. I see helmets on there. Yes,

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Speaker 4: I know will is for sure.

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Speaker 10: So there you go.

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Speaker 7: Maybe go get your right.

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Speaker 4: So a couple of things. The Kisty knight Birds.

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Speaker 10: Very nice.

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Speaker 7: All right, that does it for us.

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Speaker 4: Next time we're on the air, it's going to be

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Speaker 4: Draft Week's got that?

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Speaker 3: How about we might we might have an extra show

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Speaker 3: for you next week, and we might have an extra

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Speaker 3: special guest for you next week week as well. We'll

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Speaker 3: let you know depending on the schedule changes, but we

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Speaker 3: definitely will be back next week. Is the draft is

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Speaker 3: upon us for Chris being Brian brought us Zach Wilchuck,

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Speaker 3: Ayisha Morrison, and our friend David Hellman out in La.

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Speaker 3: I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long from the Draft Show.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next week. It's Draft time, Cowboys Nation.

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