1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: This is SWBC Mortgages Cowboys Cross Talk broadcasting live from 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star in Frisco. Brought 3 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: to you by Geico fifteen minutes could save you fifteen 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: percent or more on car insurance, and by s WBC Mortgage. 5 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: Customized solutions to help you meet your personal and business goals. 6 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Visit SWBC dot com. Now your host, Shannon Gross. Shannon Gross, 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to the beautiful Cowboys Club here adjacent to our 8 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: lovely offices to my right, which are adjacent to the 9 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: lovely practice field to my left. And we're here. It's 10 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: Wednesday night at seven o'clock Central Time, and that can 11 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: mean only one thing. What's that? What's that? Boy's cross Talk? Yes, 12 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: is live and for better or worse, I'm back in 13 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: the big chair running the show today. You and joining 14 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: me him I right from the flagship station one oh 15 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: five three the fan back. Good to have you back, 16 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: Will Chamber, good to see you. See you stepped up 17 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: the game this week a little bit. I know, I 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: know where I sit when I come up on this days, 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: so I was like, I'm not gonna be you know, 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: all right. Overshadowed again by the I love the jacket 21 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: that out the guy to your right. Nate Newton didn't 22 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: get the memo, but he he actually wore jeans tonight. 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: He didn't wear shorts or win pants. So welcome to 24 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: the show, Nate, double sweatpants. Brothers say sweatpants. And by 25 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: the way, judging from Twitter, I'm just glad they're pants 26 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: at all. That's a great point. And you know, there's 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: some shows that we have in here and I come 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: in and I'm worried about what are we gonna talk about? Yes, 29 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. If I don't know if our guests 30 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: watches a lot of Cowboys football, I don't know what 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: they've been up to. I don't really know a lot 32 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,639 Speaker 1: about the person. But tonight is not that night because 33 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: we might run out of time to talk about all 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: the things that we need to talk about with our 35 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: guest of honor tonight. Because you're a former Cowboy play 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: which is how you wound up on this show, right, 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: but you have built quite the resume in the last 38 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: two to three years. Not only were you a Cowboys 39 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: football player in in a in a standout LSU alumnia, 40 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: a special team's ace. Okay, let's just keep going. All right, 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: the accolades will keep going. But now you are. You 42 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: are a proud member of the Dallas Cowboys staff. On 43 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: the business side, yep, you can't football. You have also 44 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: been a reality TV star is probably the latest thing, 45 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: and you're on a competitive podcast of minding Nates called 46 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: The Players Lounge with Newis Scrugs and Buried Church. Welcome 47 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: to the show, the Greatness of Danny McCrae. Welcome, Houston 48 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: native Lsu Alum you an Lsu? He did I you 49 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: didn't know? You took it, took it to my boys 50 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: last see what you know what Danny got him in basketball? 51 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: The whole show A night for football. Yeah, we'll be 52 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 1: about you before we get to you. Yeah, I got 53 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: some congratulations together. Don Nate Newton inducted into the Black 54 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: Football College Hall of Fame. Well deserved and overdue. Date, 55 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: congratulate and who do you have to congratulate? Date? I'm 56 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: gonna congratulate. Uh okay, good talk, yeah, said Danny. Before 57 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: we get into Cowboys football and all that good stuff. 58 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: We know, the survivor thing. What what else have you 59 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: been up to? H I mean I think you listed 60 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: it all. I mean I'm being being a dad have 61 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: a new born. I think we had our babies around 62 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: the same time. I have like a fifteen month so 63 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: so figuring that out. My lively wife is in the 64 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: in the in the stands in the audience over so 65 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: she's she's holding it down. UH, and we're just going 66 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: out football camps. UH. Wouldn't you know it that once 67 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: people are released from COVID that all the kids that 68 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: have been been held back from being able to play 69 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: football in their youth leagues, they showed up to learn 70 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: a little bit from us, UH in our coaches at 71 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: the youth football program. So we've been sold out. So 72 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: my hands have been full with that. I've been super 73 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: busy trying to make sure that we can get as 74 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: many kids as we can in these camps. So I'm busy. 75 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: And my podcast is that we have on UH on 76 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot com. The players lines were also trying 77 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: to overtake that number one spot that you guys have, 78 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: so it never stops there. You go, got your work 79 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: cut out for the supposed to sussle business man until 80 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: that last whoa man? Well good and and I don't 81 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: have to ask if you watch football because that's part 82 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: of your job. Now you watch these current Cowboys. What 83 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: are you doing? But sounded you don't take it? But 84 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: you don't want to a new level home. You got 85 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: to you got to show this dude, I can't get 86 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: my leg of a high to his kids toddler shoes. 87 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm still shopping the toddler seion, just I can't wear 88 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: a toddler because but we know you watch football sometimes 89 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: the current Cowboys sometimes right, sometimes they upset me sometimes, 90 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: So why okay, let's just start there, because I want 91 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: to spend a whole segment on Survivor and all that 92 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: good stuff, because we talk a lot of football on 93 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: this show. Start with you will what's going on with 94 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: the football team? Like they look amazing against I guess 95 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: a COVID riddled, injury riddled Washington team, and then they 96 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: play a really good Arizona team and can't get it together. 97 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden you have flashes of okay, 98 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: they're back in the middle of the game, and then 99 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: it's like, oh no, the defense is good, the offense 100 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: can't get what is happening? What do you see? I mean, well, 101 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 1: I mean I see what you see. What you guys see? 102 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: You know, I think that the only people that really 103 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: know what kind of team they are are in that 104 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: locker room, you know, and what kind of team that 105 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: they'll be. You know, we have a way of almost romanticizing, 106 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, teams that win championships or make it to 107 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: a super Bowl, thinking that you have to play a 108 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: certain way and be this good in order to do that, 109 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: when really the reality is just not that. You know, 110 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna go through times when you're not playing so well. 111 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: You can't have a team that is stop. You should 112 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: be used to this by now, where you know, it 113 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be like it was back in the 114 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: eighties with the forty nine ers, in those teams that 115 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 1: just you know, beat the crap out of everybody, or 116 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys in the early to mid nineties and all that. 117 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: It's it's different now. There's a lot more parody in 118 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: the league. So does what they did on Sunday give me, 119 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, confidence that they are that team? No, But look, 120 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: nobody else in the league really does, you know. I mean, 121 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: I think that that's what we're seeing from everywhere else, 122 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: that it is very difficult to win, and you don't 123 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: play perfectly and sometimes you can go into the playoffs 124 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: not playing your best football, but still come out with 125 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: the talent level that you have. And that's what they 126 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: still do have. So it's up to them on what 127 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: they decide and how they're going to play and if 128 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: they can make the players in the big games. Nate 129 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: and so do you see what I see? A Listen? Uh, listen. 130 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: I'll keep repeating the same thing. The thing that worries 131 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: me about our team is well compared to other teams. 132 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: Like you said, nobody's heading heels over over the rest 133 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: of the league, right, But a lot of the good 134 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: teams they have more than one way to win a game. 135 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: We have not shown that we have more than one 136 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: way to win a game. If our offense is not 137 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: playing well, the game is ugly. We cannot figure out 138 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: a way to get it done. Our defense then has 139 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: to get four turnovers, and the four turnover games have 140 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: come against Taysom Hill too, against the Washington football team. 141 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: Once we get into games where we have to kind 142 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: of kind of be able to accept that we may 143 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: get one turnover and then the offense has to do 144 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: the risks, that's what worries me so us not being 145 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: able to run the ball when we need to is 146 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: the scariest thing for me. Tampa. They talk about Leonafourds 147 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: as good as Tom Brady is. That's what they talk 148 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: about playoff Lenny. When you talk about Green Bay, you 149 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: start to hear Aaron Jones, and you start to hear 150 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: a J. Dillon, And you can go down the list 151 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: with these teams who are able to run the ball. 152 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: Because we know defense travels, run game travels. We have 153 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: not found a way to run the ball, and that 154 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: scares me especially we have to go on the road 155 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: for extended period of time. The last five Super Bowl 156 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: teams at least are teams that average that were getting 157 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: above one hundred yards of game rushing in playoff games. 158 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: You gotta have balance. You have to, and we've seen 159 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: when we allow other defenses to dictate what we do 160 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: on offense, it doesn't work out. Will force and hopefully 161 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: this game we come out and we figure out a 162 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: way to start running the ball more than nine times 163 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: with Zeke and three times or four times with Tony 164 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: Poulin and we make it an infant. It's on the 165 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: game and I think that will propel us for it. 166 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: But as of right now, us throwing at forty and 167 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: fifty times and going these quick three and outs after 168 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: the defense has been on the field for eighty nine minutes. 169 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: That's not a recipe for success. Nate, what are your 170 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: thoughts on this football team right now? You know, I 171 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: believe this. I see what y'all see. And I said 172 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: it when we got into the debate eight nine weeks ago. 173 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: This is only a good team. This is not a 174 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: special team. They have no signature wins. And it's what 175 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: you're talking about. Tom Brady lose one of its top receivers. 176 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: Everybody else in Tom Brady lose his top receiver and 177 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: come down at seconds left on the game and win it. 178 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: When you're dealing with that type of guy, you dealing 179 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers who ain't had a real star size 180 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: defante Adams Jones has just come. He's made it happen 181 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: with new coaches and and defense that was starting to 182 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: jail last year. So when you look at the big Boys, 183 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: do you see the Cowboys as a big boy They're 184 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: one dimensional. That's if no running game, no success. So now, 185 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: like miss mccrais said, if we don't have four turnovers, 186 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: we're struggling. We're struggling, and we gotta find a way 187 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: to win more than one way. Because when you go 188 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: into the playoffs and I go back to uh my man, 189 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: Tom versus Aaron Rodgers up in Green Bay, they had 190 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: a chance to win the game. Aaron Rodgers, they defense 191 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay back to back stop them because Tom went 192 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: out there through another interception. You gotta have more than 193 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: one way to win. But I don't know, but I 194 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: love you. I'm I can recruit him. Man and Jesse 195 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: may bump heads though now they special get we don't 196 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: have so many mics. That'll be too many people on 197 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: the show. But I'll say this from week one, I've 198 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: been standing on the table saying, if you let Tampa 199 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: Bay's defense from last year scare you out of running 200 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: the ball like you did in week one, you'll never 201 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: be able to catch up from that. Right. If you 202 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: don't work on your running game throughout the entire season, 203 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: it's difficult for you to be able to say, hey, Man, 204 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: in week seventeen and eighteen, this is we're gonna start 205 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: running the power, this is we're gonna star running leads, 206 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: that's we're gonna start running traps. Because you haven't done 207 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: that the entire season, so hopefully, hopefully it's it's different 208 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: for this team. With that being said, there were moments, 209 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: especially in the first half of the game against Arizona, 210 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: in which they were running the ball and they were 211 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: doing it effectively and they were getting conversions that all 212 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden they're taken away by penalties. That's a 213 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: big part of what has been the issue with this 214 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: group are the penalties. Now we all know it's been 215 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: well talked about on some of the calls that were 216 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: made going into the playoffs. There is one little bit 217 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: of optimism that you feel like playoff cruise do not 218 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: call as many penalties. I'm not gonna say that they're 219 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: absolved from not they didn't commit all of those, but 220 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: we watched the game, we know we see a lot 221 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: of those. That one on all Collins that was I 222 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: believe a third down run for a first down that 223 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: was not holding. It was just not holding. So there 224 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: are elements of that, and I think at times they 225 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: have shown the ability to run the ball effectively, but 226 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: it's been a problem with the penalties. Yeah, I listen, 227 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: so I actually put that to the perps. Shoot, I 228 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: don't know what you're doing, And I don't know I 229 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: was one of the the two things. And I don't want 230 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: to know what. I gonna move my water over here. 231 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: You have watched the set Calm, the Crosbie's Bill cross Thesbie. 232 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: Did you say the Crossbie caused me? Whatever? Whatever, Shannon, 233 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: I got a point to prove it, all right. You 234 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: sounded like Field. You sounded so sweet, you sounded so logically. 235 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: Didn't think he was the scholar of the family. But 236 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: that ain't even happened. You. You are the happen with 237 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. You are the most penalized team 238 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: yardage wise in the league. That yes, you may not 239 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: get that. They may let the Dvs flail a little 240 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: bit more, But you don't think Devin's limban gonna flail 241 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: a little bit more. You don't think coach is gonna 242 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: be talking to reffs ay Man. I understand its flail. 243 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: Look at this, you know what, Let's take a break, 244 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: we come back, we talk about this cross, we talk 245 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: about we talk about whatever. If we you know what, 246 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: nobody on the show is getting paid. If y'all don't 247 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: let me go to a break, because then we gotta 248 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: have already gotten Okay, I already got We're about to 249 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: talk to somebody about that after the show. After the show, 250 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: let's talk about that when we come back, because we 251 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: talk about refereeing and scouting reffs and and and what 252 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: you can do to cut down on the penalties from 253 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: a player's perspective. I want to know that from you guys. 254 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: And what's the show that Danny was on? Nate Button. Yeah, 255 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,719 Speaker 1: we're gonn talk about we come back and listen to 256 00:14:02,840 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys Crosstok on the Dallas Cowboys, Lady on One back 257 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: back to s WBC mortgagees Cowboys Cross Talk. Yeah, broadcasting 258 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. 259 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: Welcome back and our guest of honor, Danny McCray. Danny, 260 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: did you know that our good friends at s WBC 261 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: Mortgage have customized solutions for individuals and businesses and they're 262 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: just a click away? Absolutely good? I think I used Yeah, 263 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: w BC, you do tell a friend to visit SWBC 264 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: dot com to learn more and start their next adventure. 265 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: To do it after the show, because we got more, 266 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: We got a lot of important things to talk about. 267 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: Soon's I getting my phone back from my wife vibright. 268 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: Let's do that. She does a great job. We got 269 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: to talk about we gotta talk about the Crosby that's 270 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: the last, the Huxtables, us, the Soul Survivors, that's you 271 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: know what the third the third segment, we're gonna talk about. 272 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: What's the show that Nanny's on was on? I don't 273 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: know because I can't get Crosby's right. Okay, An, I 274 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: know you're not getting. We're gonna make Gay do the 275 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: third segment of the show with a shirt off, take 276 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: it back down? It four weeks? What do you mean? 277 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: I was being starved for an extended period of time? 278 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: So what do you think I did when I got back? 279 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: I ain't everything I could possibly eat. I drink everything 280 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: I could possibly drink. And then I'm still before we 281 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: get into ref talk, I don't know this story. So, 282 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: and I work with you every day. You're about twenty 283 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: feet from my office. We're what was what was it 284 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: like you coming out of LSU? Were you were you recruited? 285 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: Did you go to the combine? Did you have interest 286 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: from teams? What was it like coming out of college? Uh? No, 287 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: nobody was looking at me. We had but uh at 288 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: LSU we had won a national championship a few years before, 289 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: so we had a lot of great players on our 290 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: squad in that time, so a lot of scouts came 291 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: to see those guys. I actually worked out at the 292 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: in our weight room with our stream coach. I did 293 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: not pay pay somebody to take you to a facility 294 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: and do all that. So I worked out there, and 295 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: when it was my time to run, I ran. I 296 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: ran a four four four, I lifted good or did 297 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: twenty three reps on two twenty five or whatever. I 298 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: thought I was okay. Watched the draft of the entire thing, 299 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: watched all my friends get drafted. For some reason, I 300 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: thought I was going in the seven. Will McClay called 301 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: me and he's like, hey, listen, I don't think we're 302 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: gonna be able to draft you, but we do want 303 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: to bring you in as a as an undraft the 304 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: free agent. We'll pay you five grand to see what 305 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: you can do or whatever. Then I went in there. 306 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: Joe D told me what I needed. Joe D. Camillis 307 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: tell me what I needed to do to make the team. 308 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: I did it and turn into a six year career. 309 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: So no, not recruited, not none of that. Nobody expected 310 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: me to make the squad and it just and that's 311 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: a long that's a long career for you played a 312 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: lot on special teams, right, Yeah? Would you could consider 313 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: yourself a special teams player? I wish I would have 314 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: only played special teams. I was forced into playing safety 315 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: because we had so many injuries in twenty twelve or 316 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. It was Rob Bryan's like second year when 317 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: we ended up having to bring in ad Elam and 318 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: Frank wall Is that what everybody getting guys off the couch. Yes, 319 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: And they had tape on people's name plates because they 320 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: were turning them over so fast. Like we literally lost 321 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: like four safeties. Minda Silva was there. We were all 322 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: starting in Seattle, so I had to get in and 323 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: actually play safety. I would have rather just been like 324 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: a Slater from New England and he's been he's been 325 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: playing ten, ten, eleven years and being a captain, just 326 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: doing special teams. And you were here. You were with 327 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: the Cowboys for four or five for five one with 328 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: the Bears. Jody convinced me to come to Chicago because 329 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: we actually went up to Chicago and got the doors 330 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: beat off of us, the cold degree game. He's like, hey, 331 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: come play for a real team. I'm like, okay, all right, 332 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm on my way. And of course we go there 333 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: and we win five games and Cowboys go to the playoffs. 334 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: I think they went twelve and four. Yeah, Dad's caught it. 335 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: So it didn't work out for me. Yeah, all right, 336 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: Well let's let's talk about ref talk the whole segment 337 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: on referee, not the whole segment, but from two former 338 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: players and we and I didn't know this, and we 339 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: talked about this on our show. Just like you have 340 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: tape on players on the other team, refs have tape 341 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: on players when it comes to penalties and stuff, right, 342 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: And we talked about Connor Williams and how they had 343 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: to get him off the field for a few games 344 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: protection for his own protection. Talk about the things you 345 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: can do to either have more penalties called on you 346 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: as a team or less penalties called on you as 347 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: a team. Practice and always be a conscious of what 348 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: you're doing as a player. I will we that started 349 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 1: if I got out, whether whether they started doing analysis 350 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: on the ref the crews, the crews, so that that 351 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: started out. I got out, But Jimmy had you know, 352 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: Jimmy would you know, hey, what do you think about 353 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: the refs? Jimmy, Well, what are you gonna do about 354 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: to hold it? If you if we have a game 355 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: like that, Jimmy said, well, they gonna have to stop, 356 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, holding. You know, he would coug that's stop 357 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: hold him and we have to be but he always 358 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: all doing doing training camp. We had refs and they wouldn't. 359 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: You're standing there, you know, they would throw that flag 360 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: gym be like, hey man, that's two in a row. Now, 361 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, work on your technique. That's what we hear from, 362 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, and you got Connors should know by now. 363 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna get you a simple deal. You you 364 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: gotta stretch play to the right three four steps okay, 365 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: you the guy going with you, and then all of 366 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: a sudden he jerked back. You gotta let him go. 367 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: That means the front side is closed. That running back 368 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: had to make a major decision real quick to get 369 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: back door. If it's one or two steps, okay, boom, Okay, 370 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: everybody's going to jerk him back real quick. But if 371 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: you three four steps into that, let him go. That's 372 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: common sense. Yeah, I mean the same thing they said. 373 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: So when you when you if you watch a NFL practice, 374 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: it's specifically a Dallas Cowboys practice because that's when I'm 375 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: familiar with. And you see those referees out there during 376 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: one on ones. They're out there for a reason. Yeah, 377 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: let you know that you're holding yeah right, yeah. So 378 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: so what happens is if you go in and say, oh, 379 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: if you bs and right, and then the same thing 380 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: happens in the game. I can go back to that practice, 381 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: save save you did the same thing. You did the 382 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: same thing there, and I can guarantee you it's the 383 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: same with the old lines saying with the line if 384 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: you go back and watch that film or the coaches 385 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: can tell you, yeah, that guy was doing the same 386 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: thing and we told them to get it cleaned up. 387 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: But it's something in your technique at that point that 388 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: you just have not been able to fix. Um. So 389 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: having those reps there does help. But most of the 390 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: time you see guys getting penalties out there in the game, 391 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: they're doing the same thing at practice. Yeah. I was 392 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: going to ask if it flips sometimes where you you know, 393 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: you're out there with officials practicing, and then all of 394 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: a sudden, you come out to a game and the 395 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: same things that you were doing that we're not getting 396 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: called in practice are getting called in games. I've never 397 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 1: seen it, Okay, Yeah, and I don't know. I mean, 398 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: because you know, it's been a big point of contention 399 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 1: and talking about officials and having them being full time 400 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: and all that. And I'm not here to tell you 401 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: that they've been terribly officiated, because that's not it. There 402 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: are certain calls that you know, that were made that 403 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: were not right. You know. I didn't think the Cowboys 404 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 1: played that poorly offensively in the first half. They had 405 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: some dry ives going, and then you did have the 406 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: penalties just really kill those drives, and some of them 407 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: were right, you know, and it just ended like a 408 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: seventy yard drive, I want to say, the first or second. 409 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: So it is part of it. And Nate's right, the 410 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: most penalized yards team. You know, it's not good. It 411 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: has to be cleaned up. But I do think it 412 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: does also take away from us looking at them like 413 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: it didn't play as bad as I think that we 414 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: all look at it because they couldn't, you know, get 415 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: points and get in the end zone. I gotta be honest, 416 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, be honest, because that's what we 417 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: do on the show. I don't know what y'all do 418 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: on your show, but on this show, we're honest. Let 419 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: me tell you something because these these are things that 420 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: like stick out to me during the game, right, you 421 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: have Chandler Jones out there, right when you see a 422 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: play get ricked two yards in the backfield and you 423 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: see that Dalton Scholtz is blocking Chandler Jones, Yeah, this 424 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: is this is not the correct way to run it, 425 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: right And then but that but that makes you say 426 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: we're not gonna run it because we can't run it. 427 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: We like, we can't get it done. No, that's not true. 428 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: I've never seen eight whole hands. Yeah with a guest before. 429 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: What did I tell you on the shoulder down? I 430 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: know what you say. If not once did we put 431 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: this kid at a disadvantage as a coach. Twice we 432 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: put this kid that is a mismatch that came from hell, 433 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: and that was not right. I don't But but but 434 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: when you see it as a viewer, you say, oh, man, 435 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: the running game is it's just not there. That's not true. 436 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: It's not true. He had just beat Tyroan a series before. Yeah, 437 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: he had just beat all so if he's beating if 438 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: he's beating Tyran, yes, it's not really fair for task Daltons. Okay, 439 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: let me let me ask you guys this then, so 440 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: are we talking about something that Dak should be able 441 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: to see at the light of if you if you 442 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: if you checking the lock, if you say if you're 443 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: checking run because the box is like then you can't say, 444 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: all right, what Dalton shoul like he already got to 445 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: do so much give me the case. You're like, okay, 446 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: let me throw it somewhere else, because it's showing you 447 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: a favorable, favorable run play and you don't have like 448 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: five o six in the huddle. You literally got run 449 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: left or run right. And at that point it's like, 450 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: all right, this is this is what we should do. 451 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: This is what the xs and those tellers that we 452 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: should do. Yeah, I mean, there's just there's lots of 453 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: changes that are being made at the line of scrimmage, 454 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: lots of kill kill kill and going to different things 455 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: and so setch that kills so many people during this game. 456 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: He he killed at the line of scrimmage. They should 457 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: have should have a search one out for him. The 458 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: first ten passing plays he I saw him one time, 459 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: Mike number. Then he stopped and went or what to 460 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: the other side. I was like, Wow, they got that few. 461 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: Do you do you think we're gonna run that play again? 462 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: What the Bouda Baker almost picked off pick six where 463 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: you put the lineman outside and and it's gonna be 464 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: a bubble screen. And I'm like, bro, this dude saw 465 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: this on filmy many times. Yeah, he knew exactly what 466 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: was coming. How many plays do you run out of 467 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: that formation? And if it's only one, guess what They're 468 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: going to see that and know what's coming. And I'm 469 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: not saying I'm not one of those guys that believes 470 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: that our offense is so good like Kansas City Office 471 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: is so they can play basic ball. We're not that good, 472 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: So we gotta come up with a better game plan. 473 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: The thing is, I think we are. I think we 474 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: sometimes we try to get too creative. I think lining 475 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: up Zeke at fullback on third and one is something 476 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: that we think it's creative, but it's it's really not 477 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: to the to the defense, you know you're gonna hand 478 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: it to this dude to play a pullback being simple 479 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers, Hey man I got I'm gonna figure 480 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: out the way to get Davante Adams in one on one, simple, 481 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: three by one backstrong. It's gonna be whoever is the 482 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: X is gonna be in one by one through to 483 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: slant though, to come back whatever. And that's what Mark Cooper. 484 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: I think. Those are simple ways to get it. And 485 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna run the ball. We're gonna pull seventy one, 486 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna pull seventy and we're gonna run behind those guys. 487 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: These are simple ways. Like it seems like a simple offense, 488 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: but ours are better than theirs at that point, you 489 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: know were I said it to the very beginning about 490 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: how like I see what you see and all I 491 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: can see and I promise you all I can see 492 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: is number twenty catching Like and I've been saying it 493 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: for three weeks. I need to see Number twenty catching 494 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: fifteen swing passes out of the backfield because I just 495 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 1: don't believe that a linebacker safety can deal with him 496 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: that minute plays and I just don't believe. Well, I 497 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: think that Dak what he was seeing in the first 498 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: half of the year, it's very different from what he's 499 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: seeing now. I think the defenses know, the defensive coordinators 500 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 1: are planning to be like, show him this and then 501 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: he'll do this. I didn't want to say it. I 502 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: mean there was a lot we got. We got that 503 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: from graduating. Yeah, I'm out of the Huxtable family. Tampa 504 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: did that to us the first game, and we've been 505 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: doing that for the entire season. Tampa said, we are 506 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: not going to let these people run out. We're gonna 507 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: make them get into a passing situation and this is 508 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: how we're gonna line up and they're gonna check to this. 509 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: And we show all that in the in the first game, 510 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: and we've been continuing to do that throughout the season, 511 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 1: which is why you see a nine Russian thing, right, 512 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: because they're like, all right, they're not gonna run it 513 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: if we show him this look, we're gonna get them 514 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: to be able to check to what a grab route 515 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: or a goal route or this route, and we're gonna 516 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: be able to dictate what they're calling. All right, fellas, 517 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: we gotta take another break. You can tell you watch 518 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: our show, Shan. I don't want Shannon. Shannon knows I'm 519 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: at work at that time. You know what show we 520 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: are watching? Show we are gonna talk about watching but 521 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: niked and afraid and Danny's gonna take a shirt off 522 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: for this third segment when we have Survivor Talk with 523 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: our guests Danny McCrae. When we come back and listen 524 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: to Cowboys Cross Talk on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network 525 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: to s WBC Mortgages Cowboys Cross Talk Check broadcasting live 526 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 1: from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. Welcome 527 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: back with our guest of honor, Danny McCrae and s 528 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage. Joined the more than one hundred twenty thousand 529 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: customers that we've helped to find their happier way home. 530 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: Visit SWBC mortgage dot com to find a pro Todaytion 531 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: and Gross, Will Chambers, Nate Newton, and Danny McCrae. So, Danny, 532 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: you're on a little reality TV show this this year, Yes, Survivor, Survivor, 533 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: not the other one, Mate, not the other one. They 534 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: were a little bit of clothes, yes, yeah, we have 535 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: full outfits, three of them. Yeah, three full outfits. Yes. 536 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: Tell us you you were a fan of Survivor, right, 537 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: I was. You would watch Survivor for years? I watched 538 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: so when I retired in twenty fifteen when when the 539 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: team didn't call me back. How old were you when 540 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: you retired? Uh, twenty eight, the ripe old age of 541 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: twenty six years. I'm like, I was like twenty seven 542 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: six years, twenty seven old man oh Man retired, just 543 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: living the life watch The Survivor, trying to figure out 544 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 1: what to do, what the next move was. Everybody has 545 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 1: a nine to five, and then you found out that 546 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: your friends do not play football. They're working all day 547 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: and you got to find something to fill that time 548 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: void while they're doing something that survival was that for me? Watching? 549 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: Or what made you? What made you say I think 550 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna apply for the show? Well, me and the 551 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: wife were like sitting on and watch it like bench 552 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: watching eight nine episodes back to back, and I'm sitting 553 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: there and I will say I could do that. Oh, 554 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: why is this person doing that? Why are you telling 555 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: this person this or whatever? I'm like, I think I 556 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: could do better than them. All Right, I got free time, 557 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: I'm not working, I'm not doing anything. Do you think 558 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: I should apply? She's like, nah, no, not yet, No, 559 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: don't do it. As soon as we get married, which 560 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: is about four or five years later, she was like, 561 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: oh yeah, you can go. I was like, all right, 562 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: look cool. So she made the video for me and 563 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: then they called me and that was and that was 564 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: that and that was that. So tell us a little 565 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: bit about the experience, like what was what was it? Like? 566 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: What was what was? Did a lot harder than I 567 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 1: expect there, Like, hey, no, to listen. To be honest 568 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: with you, the hardest thing about the show is like 569 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: how how much produced? Right? You know, you don't know 570 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: what you're getting when you go into it. And the 571 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: show to me, up until a certain point when they 572 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: were able to smash our glass and go back time, 573 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: which kind of threw me for a loop, it was 574 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,240 Speaker 1: pretty simple. It was, you know, everybody's starving, everybody's dirty, 575 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: everybody's hungry. So as long as you know that everybody 576 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 1: is going through the same thing you are, you're absolutely fine. 577 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: And then when they start throwing stuff like that in there, 578 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 1: that's when when they get you. Because what you don't 579 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: realize until that point is your emotions are on a thousand, 580 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: Like every reaction that you would have when you're at 581 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: home and you're clean and you've eating and you've been 582 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: able to socialize with your friends and family. Imagine you 583 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: being angry, right, and how mad you get now and 584 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: you're comfort of your home, right, yeah, and then imagine 585 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: how you're angry would be one thousand times that, right, 586 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: So everything right when somebody somebody's missing with you or 587 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: somebody's in your personal space, so you figure out they 588 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: lying to you? Are they just doing something that annoys you? Right, 589 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: It's one thousand times exponentially worse. So I'm just sitting 590 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: there and I'm like, this is like people. You know, 591 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: people suck sometimes people sucks. And I got to go 592 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: through this and they, you know, production is gonna do it. 593 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: They want to do what they on TV show. So 594 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: that was the only sucky part about it. But it 595 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: wasn't that bad. Hunger leaves you in like two or 596 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: three days. You don't you don't even realize that anymore 597 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: because I guess your stomach strings words. Part was using 598 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: the bathroom out there in the ocean. Uh, you know, 599 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: it is it is what it is. Sounds comfortable, it 600 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: is what it is. You know, it is what it is. 601 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: Those elements like that animals, Yeah, so you're come into 602 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: contact or anything. Nah, So I would say this what 603 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: they So they put a lot of money into the contestants, right, 604 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: and if they do have a contestant that is that 605 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: has to be evacuated, they lose a lot of money. 606 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: So they make sure that they don't put you in 607 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: that type of danger. Right, So you won't see any 608 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: anything that are like wild you want to see like 609 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: a poisonous state, wild boys, you won't see any of 610 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: that type of stuff. The most we see we saw 611 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: some some weird looking birds. Of course they have like 612 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: poisonous like plants or something that they give you a 613 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: book and they're like, don't touch these a right, so 614 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: check it out before you do eat it. But crabs, fish, uh, spiders, hell, 615 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: whatever challenge will be going on and then like some 616 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: snake appeared. I would win that challenge, and then I 617 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: would keep running on top of water maybe out there. 618 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: That's the thing though, like you go out there and 619 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: and you think, as I watching it, hey man, I 620 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: could do this better than the other person. It takes 621 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: no athletic ability to finish some of those challenges or 622 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: to be good at at those challenges. Right. Like the 623 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 1: first one I lost that was individual was picking these 624 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 1: blocks up with your feet and stacking them up three 625 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: rows high and then grabbing the flag and putting it 626 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 1: in the hole. And I'm like, I'm gonna work out 627 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: for this. I've been I've been doing puss ups and 628 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: running files like this. This is not catered. They are 629 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: starving you there. So I guess maybe that comes into plant. Yeah. Yeah, 630 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't bad. It was fun, but that's cool. 631 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: The production parts up. Was there anything that didn't make 632 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: it on the show that you wish would have? Yeah? 633 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: So there. So when we went on, so this was 634 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: the first year that it was mandated that fifty percent 635 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: of the cast had to be um people of color. Right, 636 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,320 Speaker 1: So this is the most diverse cast they've had. So 637 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: you had, you had more black people on the show. 638 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: You had more Hispanic people, more Canadians, more Asian, you 639 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: had more more of that on the show. Right. So 640 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: we're going through the show whatever, and then we come 641 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: together and we're like, oh man, this it's like four 642 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: black people up. We should work together, right, we should together, 643 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 1: We should we should figure out because you got to remember, 644 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: at this time, the George Floyd trial is going onmard Aubrey, 645 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: all that stuff is going on. So we've been watching 646 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 1: this for the whole year, so we're like, now, let's 647 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 1: figure out a way to get us one of us 648 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: to be the winner. And it falls apart. And on 649 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: TV it looks like it falls apart for one reason. 650 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: But if you show it in its entirety, it was 651 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: way more than what they showed on TV, right, So 652 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: you would believe that it was one person's fault if 653 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: you just watched it on TV. But if you know 654 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 1: the full story, then you know that that's totally wrong. 655 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: Can you tell us? Can you tell us the story? 656 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: Can you break the news here on I told the story. 657 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean I told it before. It was so for 658 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: the people that watch, Shan ended up getting voted out 659 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: and me and de Sean ended up It seemed like 660 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 1: we stabbed in the back. But I told Shann we 661 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: needed to vote out her number one allied which record 662 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: She said, Okay. Then she goes and tells Record that 663 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 1: I told her that, right, But she told them because 664 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: she had gotten words that my other closest guy, Deshan 665 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: and her friend Leanna had said they were going to 666 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: vote her out down the road. Leona felt guilty about it. 667 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: She tells Sham and then Shan's like why can't trust them? 668 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 1: So I'm now going to tell record whatever y'all told me. 669 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: They left out the whole Leanna and conversation, so it 670 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,880 Speaker 1: seems like out of nowhere. Me and Deshan, you know, 671 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,919 Speaker 1: we couldn't stand a woman being in power and also 672 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: the stuff, so we just have to go knock her 673 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:41,359 Speaker 1: out of the pine. Oh they that's what yeah, yeah, 674 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: but you know it sucks for the people who are 675 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: at home who have to deal with that on social media, 676 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: right because you have to be like, that's not what happened. No, 677 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: that's not why we can't. Can't So you're watching the writer, 678 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: you can't say anything because we can't tweet. I'll talk 679 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: about the show until the end of the season. So 680 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm just like getting drilled on on Twitter and on Instagram. 681 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: You know, you I suck. You shouldn't have done that. 682 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: You stabbed in the back. That's why y'all went home. 683 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, you have no idea there was there anything 684 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: that you weren't expecting or did everything that happened you 685 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: were kind of like, yeah, this is kind of what 686 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: was there anything different than what you'd imagined it watching 687 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: it all those years. I would say this. So the 688 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: amount of time that it takes to get from point 689 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 1: A to point B on that show is crazy because 690 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: we're all on three different islands, and then we all 691 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: have to get transported from whatever island we're on to 692 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: whatever island we're going to do the challenge on, or 693 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 1: to whatever island we're going to do tribal counsel on. Right, 694 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: So now you have to time that up, so the 695 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: boat ride might be forty five minutes. Then when you 696 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: get there, you gotta get miked up. But as you're 697 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: getting miked up, you can't see the other tribe. So 698 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: we have to do it one by one, so they'll 699 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: come mic us up, then they'll we'll sit there for 700 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,439 Speaker 1: another thirty minutes while they mic up the second dribe, 701 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: and then they'll sit there another thirty minutes up the 702 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: third one. It takes us like three or four hours 703 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: to get to what you see on TV and forty 704 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: five minutes. So that was something I didn't expect because 705 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: it just seems like, oh, yeah, okay, they walk out, 706 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: you do the talent, once you go home. Nah, it's 707 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: like four or five hours, all right, last last question 708 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: and then we'll move on. I got one more to 709 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 1: spend the whole second watched it. Yeah, so you guys, 710 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: you guys had a watch party at the end, right 711 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: to watch them. The finale is in Chicago. Did everyone 712 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: get along or was there any animosity from people that 713 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: got voted off or because you you didn't know what 714 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 1: was going on until you got voted off, right, and 715 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: then you got to watch everything going on. Sure, there 716 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,760 Speaker 1: were some conversations that were had were like you dirty 717 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: it was it was more of lack of conversations. So 718 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,919 Speaker 1: Xanders made it me, uh, because I said he didn't 719 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: play a good game, that's why he didn't get any votes, 720 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 1: and I did. Nobody voted for him and I voted 721 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 1: for the Sean. Everybody's still mad about how the story 722 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: I just told, right, So everybody's mad at the show 723 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: them because they think the Sean stabbed him in the 724 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: back and all other stuff. So it's still a lot 725 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 1: of people who have not let things go. So a 726 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: little drama still is a little drama still. But who 727 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: all get paid? I mean, y'all, do all of y'all 728 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: get paid on this? It always goes back to money, y'all. 729 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: Y'all always y'all try to get my money taken. Its possible, possible, everybody, 730 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: It's possible, all right. We don't want get Danny trouble. 731 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: So I didn't know that let's take our last bros 732 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: on the wrong show. Anyway, I watched the whole series 733 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: of I don't say let's take our last break like 734 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: Danny got voted off. When we come back the two 735 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: people on that, let's talk about what are our expectations 736 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: for this Cowboys team in the playoffs. We have to 737 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: wait a week for it, but since we got such 738 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: a good crew here tonight, let's talk about it. We 739 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: don't logic, We don't you know. We're gonna start with 740 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: the will's gonna be first up? We got a little 741 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: bar to get over anywhere you're listening to Cowboys Cross 742 00:42:54,160 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: Talking of the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network to s w 743 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 1: BC Mortgages. Cowboys Cross Talk just broadcasting live from the 744 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 1: Club at the Star in Frisco. That's w B Nate. 745 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: We're on the air. Please stop s w b C 746 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 1: PEO helping tell le the hc HR administrative birden that 747 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: comes with running a business. Leave the word to us. 748 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: Visit s WBC peo dot com to find out more. 749 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,959 Speaker 1: Sorry to interrupt you, Nate, What were you saying? Go ahead, 750 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: you want to deal with HR problems, go to SWB 751 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: you know and sw yeah will see you out there 752 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: with HR problems. Is that? Is that what you were 753 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 1: talking about in the break? I don't know what we're 754 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 1: talking about. It is that I'm a Southern guy. I 755 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: should be able to pronounce c O s y cs 756 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 1: B y b y better than the R put put 757 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 1: in the yeah because Southern boys. I always mess up 758 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: words because I ain't never got his name right until 759 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:56,600 Speaker 1: he went on that you forgot his first name tonight, No, no, no, 760 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 1: nor to look at will like eight times chamber, where's change? Okay? Well, okay, 761 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: you know what We've been doing this ship in like 762 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,240 Speaker 1: six years. We've been doing a show together every every 763 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: week day for probably four years. And sometimes and he 764 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: sits right across from me on our podcast. He's here 765 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: every Wednesday night with various other things throughout the season, 766 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: and he'll look at me sometimes and zone out. He'll 767 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: be uh the beard uh, or he'll be like little 768 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 1: man with the big head, or like he just completely 769 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:40,240 Speaker 1: first Church's first name. He's a homer. He's a cowboy. Homer, 770 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 1: oh Man bear Ain never got us to lose, do it. 771 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: He never got us lose and do it the Cowboy. Yeah, 772 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: he picked us city too. He was right, he was right, 773 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 1: but he get around me and go another way. He 774 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: picks us. So because I said we'd start with you, 775 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: this segment will. Okay, what are your expectations of this 776 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 1: Cowboys team through the playoffs? So they went in one game, 777 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: two games, three games, they're going all the way? What? What? 778 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 1: What would you be happy with? Well, I mean I 779 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 1: would be happy with them going to the you know, 780 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: going get into the super Bowl. I think that they've 781 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: got enough talent in order to do that. I can't 782 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: predict anything now from what we see. We can't. Too inconsistent. 783 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 1: They're way too inconsistent. Um, there's times when we have 784 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,680 Speaker 1: seen them play against some good teams and play pretty well. 785 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,200 Speaker 1: You know, New England has turned out to be you 786 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 1: could say with it, well, they got a rookie quarterback. 787 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,279 Speaker 1: This is now. That defense has been around all year 788 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 1: and that's got a lot of veterans that came into 789 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 1: play this year for Bill Belichick, and they played pretty well. 790 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,920 Speaker 1: I think that we are sitting here talking about the Cowboys, 791 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: And if they were having a show like this in 792 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: Green Bay talking about the Packers, they'd feel pretty good 793 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 1: about their quarterback, but they'd be talking about their warts 794 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: and they'd be saying on how Baker Mayfield through four 795 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,760 Speaker 1: interceptions on them, but they gave up over two hundred 796 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,960 Speaker 1: and like thirty yards rushing, you know, against the Cleveland Browns, 797 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 1: and it took those four interceptions. You know, Tampa Bay 798 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: is going to be talking about how they're not a 799 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 1: very good defense on the back end. They're just not 800 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,839 Speaker 1: They're average. They are susceptible to being thrown on. Now, 801 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have been more inconsistent than those teams, but 802 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,479 Speaker 1: it just goes to show you that not every team 803 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: is going into the playoffs perfect. I love you will, Okay, Well, 804 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: I listen my expectation for this team going into the 805 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: playoffs because I do have the up most respect for 806 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: how the defense has been playing, and I think the 807 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: potential for them is through the roof. And I actually 808 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 1: do think that they can carry us as long as 809 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,520 Speaker 1: we're able to score twenty five twenty six months. We 810 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,799 Speaker 1: don't have to score the over plus thirty every night, 811 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,719 Speaker 1: but if we're able to put together some drives and 812 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: score twenty four twenty five points. I think that we 813 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: can wreck together some wins, all right. So if our 814 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 1: offen is able to get it together, depending on who 815 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: we're playing, where we're playing them at, I think that 816 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 1: we have the possibility, like you said, to make a 817 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 1: deep run. Yeah. Look, I mean that the NFC Championship 818 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 1: came last year and Nate you were talking about it, 819 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,000 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, how many interceptions did they throw? Jimmy Garoppolo 820 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 1: throws one completion in the what fourth quarter of that 821 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: game of the Super Bowl? San Francisco wins that Super Bowl. 822 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: But but they're see but those see that's what we 823 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 1: talked about earlier. Those teams. Can they have more than one, 824 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: more than one way to win? Yeah, they running and 825 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 1: we haven't been able to find find a way to 826 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: do that. Like I said, last year, it was playoff lenning. 827 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,800 Speaker 1: Nobody expected it, right, running it, catching it. When you 828 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 1: talk about Ronald Jones too, Yeah, Ronald Jones. When you 829 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,480 Speaker 1: talk about the San Francisco team, they were in the 830 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 1: game because they were able to run the ball. Us 831 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 1: we haven't been able to find a way to do that, 832 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: right when when the things are going south for us. 833 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 1: We should have to be able to lean on our 834 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 1: ninety million dollars running back or Tony Pollo. We got 835 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: thunder and lightening, figure out a way to get those 836 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: guys in the game. If we are able to do that, 837 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 1: I think we can make a deep run. Expectations, Zoe, 838 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: you just have to length. They could win, they could 839 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 1: lose badly. You know, it's just it's a toss up 840 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: to me. Now, I think our defense saves us for 841 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 1: losing badly. I'm really, I'm really, I'm really high on 842 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 1: the defense if they allow them to rush the pass 843 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: as you should be, really on the defense as we 844 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 1: would expect. And you're probably pretty high on the special 845 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 1: teams right now too, huh. For the most part, I mean, 846 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,239 Speaker 1: you know, set the kicker, the kicker the kicker is. 847 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 1: You know, if you add up the points for the 848 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: games that we've lost, I mean, you know, I know, 849 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: I know you still have more more to play, but 850 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 1: it adds up. We lose about three, we missed three, 851 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: We lose about three missed extra point in the field goal, 852 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,400 Speaker 1: you know, And it changed, you know how it is. 853 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 1: It It changes the It changes the the way the 854 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 1: games play. Yeah, you miss one early and all of 855 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like chasing points. Ye, chasing points. So 856 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: now you've been looking at everybody crazy. You've been hugging 857 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 1: Wheeleder in this segment, you've been high five and Danny, 858 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: you've been doing all this crazy stuff. What is your 859 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 1: and don't give me the Homer opinion that that the 860 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 1: Cowboys are winning the Super Bowl? Just what is your 861 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: assessment of this team and what what would you be 862 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 1: happy with? What would your expectations say if they do 863 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: this in the playoffs? I'm good. Oh, I'm only happy 864 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,320 Speaker 1: with a super Bowl too. Bydn't get that we have 865 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: to at least get there. You happy with, sir? This 866 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: is the most talented team that I think that we 867 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: have seen since the Question Bowl. Make it to it 868 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 1: or win it. Make it to it, make it to it? 869 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 1: Where are you at, Nate on this? If the Cowboys 870 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 1: get into the playoffs and play real well the first 871 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: game and lose, it would not hurt my feetness, And 872 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm being honest, because you just wanted to play well 873 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 1: because they get there. You you have done nothing but 874 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 1: beat teams? You do does you do not have a 875 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,200 Speaker 1: thing that you win? You you said it three times. Well, 876 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 1: they played these teams well and they fell short. Why 877 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,960 Speaker 1: well three points here, kicker. You got to have a kicker. 878 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 1: We don't have a kicker. You got to have a 879 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: run game. We don't know where that's win. So if 880 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 1: they can get into the playoffs and if they run 881 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 1: the ball, I believe they can win. I believe they 882 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 1: can get to the second round. Now, you're playing guys 883 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 1: on your equal talent level. Now it's gonna come down 884 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: to can that coach call the right play and ken 885 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: those players executed, because it's always gonna be six or 886 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 1: seven plays. We haven't seen those six to seven plays 887 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 1: against quality teams yet. So if they're going to the 888 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,879 Speaker 1: first round lose, I'm not gonna be oh man, well man, 889 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 1: well nah nah. You you've done what you've done all year. Now, 890 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,440 Speaker 1: if you want to shock me, win that first playoff 891 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,399 Speaker 1: game and you're talking about home and Nate all over 892 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: the place, yeah, I'll be running. But I got a 893 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: friend I have to ask Nate all right, So so 894 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 1: so think of it this way. Okay, no signature wins, 895 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: I got Okay, no signature wins. But if you go 896 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,799 Speaker 1: out there and you play back on the defense, defensively, 897 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: how you played against Minnesota when you know what Minnesota 898 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,080 Speaker 1: has on offense, right, or you go out there and 899 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: you play defensively. How you played against Kansas City when 900 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 1: you know what Kansas City has offen? Sorry, even how 901 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 1: you played against Arizona when you force them to kicks 902 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 1: four field goals, even even when we turn the ball 903 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 1: over in on territory, and when you play like that 904 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: defensively and you can get something out of our offense, 905 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: I'm confident we can win against any pins. That's what 906 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: I told him on the show today. That's that's what 907 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 1: I told him. But but you gotta score. You gotta 908 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 1: score seven. You gotta with me. You gotta score twenty 909 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 1: seven or more points. You gotta score twenty seven or 910 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: more points. Because you go back and check all of 911 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 1: the playoff games, it's rare that the winner don't have 912 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: a close to twenty seven or more points. You have 913 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,239 Speaker 1: to do that, you and you in our case, you 914 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 1: have to control time of possession or at least be 915 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: thirty minutes. You have to be. But we're not. We're 916 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: not getting time position. We don't run the ball. Yeah, 917 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: I think the defensive line, the front. The pass rush 918 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: is good enough to keep you in any game. You know, 919 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,680 Speaker 1: it really is because their ability to get after the quarterback. 920 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 1: And I know that they are susceptible to some big 921 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,319 Speaker 1: plays because of how Trayvon Digs does on the back end. 922 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,399 Speaker 1: But you've had guys you know, step up. Yeah, that's right, 923 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: And I wonder actually with that, if we might start 924 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 1: seeing more Calvin Joseph, to be honest, his size and 925 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 1: ability if he gets wouldn't be mad about that. I 926 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,719 Speaker 1: think he's played. I think he's played really well. I'm 927 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 1: not I'm not giving up on I'm not giving up 928 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,799 Speaker 1: on Aby. I've seen. I've seen more good than bad. 929 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 1: I will tell you this good, that's true athleticism. kJ 930 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: is ab needs to get with those defensive linemen and 931 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 1: get on the jugs machine. Give me a curse because 932 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,239 Speaker 1: we should have two turnovers that game. We got curse 933 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 1: dropping interception that we don't have the time out to 934 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 1: get the last one. But this defense is consistently forcing turnovers, 935 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:36,920 Speaker 1: which is which is always a bright spot. You know 936 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 1: what a chance? You know what that was what we 937 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 1: just did. That was our brass tax moment presented by 938 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 1: Liberty Tax Liberty Tax is a proud partner of the 939 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Joined the team today at Liberty tax dot 940 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,439 Speaker 1: com slash hiring. We got one minute left, fellas Will 941 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 1: Chambers parting words, sir, Uh, Look, this is a football 942 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 1: team that has the talent to win. They have not 943 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,319 Speaker 1: shown the consistency. But I go back to two New 944 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 1: York Giants teams that won Super Bowls that went nine 945 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 1: and seven. You gotta get to the tournament and then 946 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 1: make place. Yeah, listen, hopefully. I think the only shot 947 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 1: that we haven't making a deep run is if we 948 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 1: found our running game, or even if we don't, even 949 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 1: if we don't rush a hundred yards, that we stick 950 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 1: to it in the game plan and open up other 951 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,919 Speaker 1: things for Mary Cooper and Citee Lamb. Well said, well said, 952 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,320 Speaker 1: But nigga in a phrase, that's it. Yeah, that's it. 953 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: Will always a pleasure, man, Thanks for coming to see you, 954 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 1: seeing you brother, Danny. I guess I'll see you tomorrow 955 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: in the office. Huh, see you there. This was This 956 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. Man. This is one of 957 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 1: those shows where this just went out the window at 958 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,759 Speaker 1: the beginning and we just went all over the place. 959 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 1: Series The Cowboys Cross Talk on the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. 960 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 961 00:56:50,800 --> 00:57:00,120 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Class m