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Speaker 3: Here we go. It is a Monday, man.

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Speaker 1: Do we have a lot to talk about one hour

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Speaker 1: from now? Where Colin was right? Where Colin was wrong?

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Speaker 1: There's always plenty of both. Urban Meyer stops by Matt Hasselbeck.

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Speaker 1: We're live in Chicago, Holiday greetings. I mean it was

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Speaker 1: so Pittsburgh Steeler. I've been saying all year. I've been

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Speaker 1: saying before the year, this offense in Pittsburgh it's like

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Speaker 1: Quicksand what's Rogers doing going to this offense? And my

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Speaker 1: larger point and belief stands they don't have a long

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Speaker 1: term quarterback. They spend way too much money on defense.

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Speaker 1: I do think Aaron's duct tape for at least this year,

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Speaker 1: in another year, but Mike Tomlin, Aaron Rodgers, and the

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Speaker 1: Steelers deserve credit. In a weekend AFC no Mahomes Borough right,

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Speaker 1: they may pick up their first playoff.

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Speaker 3: Win in nine seasons.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they had almost five yards of offense, an

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Speaker 1: unbelievable run game, and it's getting better. In the last

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Speaker 1: three weeks they're averaging over six yards of play. That is,

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Speaker 1: those are big boy numbers, So it's getting better. Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers said, you know, get me my guys, mvs. Adam

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Speaker 1: Feelin and you know it's typical Steeler fashion, a wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: high maintenance drama.

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Speaker 3: You know, you got to always deal with that.

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Speaker 1: And despite the fact that at two hundred and third

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Speaker 1: to fifteen rush advantage, they had to hold on for

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Speaker 1: dear life.

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Speaker 3: It was Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: But I will say this about Aaron, He's just a

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Speaker 1: lot of quarterback play is just getting you out of trouble.

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Speaker 1: He's made the offense slicker and smarter. You know, he

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Speaker 1: just he takes what's available, not a lot of negative plays.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Aaron Rodgers leads the entire NFL in fastest release.

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Speaker 1: He's getting rid of the ball faster than any other quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's forty two. He doesn't want to get hit and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't want that Steeler O line to get into trouble.

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Speaker 1: Because they really don't have the kind of receiving core

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Speaker 1: or consistent run game that had yesterday that can get

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Speaker 1: them out of trouble. So Aaron's like, give me the ball,

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Speaker 1: let's get it out, stay ahead of the chains. I

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Speaker 1: feel like Aaron has become like the oil the lubrication

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Speaker 1: for an offensive machine, where the gears for the last

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Speaker 1: seven years have been getting stuck, and he just comes in,

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Speaker 1: get rid of the ball, audible, into the right play

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Speaker 1: what's available, don't get greedy.

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Speaker 3: It's really smart.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, this is the most impressed I've

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Speaker 3: In a long time.

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Speaker 1: Well, what about Green Bay? Everybody wins in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: Help Malik Willis looked great last Saturday, Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love,

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Speaker 1: Brett Farff, everybody looks good in Green Bay. A quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: backups come in. Malik Willis their dynamic. This offense Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: for seven years, they can't run the ball, the old

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Speaker 1: line doesn't work. They you know, turnstyle offensive coordinator. Aaron

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Speaker 1: gets the credit for this. He gets the credit the

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Speaker 1: longer this goes on this season, last three weeks, brings

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Speaker 1: his friends in at wide receiver. It's just it works.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Warren two forty five yard runs dominate the Lions.

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Speaker 1: Lions have their own problems, but you know here's you got.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson can't stay healthy. You got Joe Burrow can't

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Speaker 1: stay healthy. And Aaron's forty two, and he's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: staying healthy. I'm gonna be available for my team. So

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Speaker 1: he's just done all the little thing. It's amazing what

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Speaker 1: not always what they do, it's what they don't do.

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Speaker 1: They don't throw picks, they don't take bad sacks. You know,

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Speaker 1: they audible in and out of trouble and into advantages.

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Speaker 1: So Mike Tomlin, you know, you say what you want.

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Speaker 1: And I've had my grievances with Mike Tomlin. Here they

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Speaker 1: are again looking at a potential division championship.

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Speaker 4: Thankful of the fight and to win. And we'll keep

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Speaker 4: pushing because that's what you got to do this time

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Speaker 4: of year. Win or lose, you got to keep pushing,

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Speaker 4: and we will. We're coming in to Marrow to watch

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Speaker 1: Team Okay, now, let's go to the team that lost

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Speaker 1: Detroit one. Coach one has really changed the direction of

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Speaker 1: two franchises in the same division. Ben Johnson used to

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Speaker 1: him now. He left and went to Chicago, and the

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Speaker 1: Bears are eleven and four and the best fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: weren't interested in Ben Johnson. Congratulations, But the Bears who

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Speaker 1: and years of dysfunction upstairs, and you watch them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's been a work in progress. But I've heard this

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Speaker 1: before from athletes, the great athletes, and Caleb Williams is

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Speaker 3: He is special.

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Speaker 1: They want Caleb Williams wanted to be coached hard. He said,

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Speaker 1: there's nobody to watch film with me. He wanted to

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Speaker 1: be coached hard. He wanted somebody to get on him

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Speaker 1: and enter Ben Johnson. I mean, Patrick Mahomes didn't become

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Speaker 1: the hard look easy. Easy looks a little difficult. But

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Speaker 1: the entire Bears organization. You know, again, once you get

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Speaker 1: the coach right Vrabel in New England, Sean Payton and Denver,

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh with the Chargers Ben Johnson, he doesn't take long. Literally,

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Speaker 1: it takes like six to eight weeks. You build the staff,

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Speaker 1: you get the planning, and then slowly but surely you

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Speaker 1: get into week six, week nine, week twelve, week fifteen,

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Speaker 1: you look up, this is a really good team. They

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Speaker 1: do all the things that winning teams do. They win

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Speaker 1: the turnover battle, they run the football. They've been lucky

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Speaker 1: a little bit with health, mostly a very healthy team.

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Speaker 1: They don't have negative plays. So you're seeing the same

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Speaker 1: thing in New England with Rabel, Sean Payton, Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: I mean, last year the Bears just a simple thing.

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Speaker 1: Last year, do you remember this, The Bears were the

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Speaker 1: worst fourth quarter team in the league. They couldn't even

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Speaker 1: script plays appropriately. Now third best, So they start smartly,

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Speaker 1: they finish strongly, and again they've just gotten out of

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Speaker 1: the stuff that loses games. No turnovers, no negative plays.

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Speaker 1: The operation, the basic fundamentals looks organized and then of

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Speaker 1: course you have Caleb Williams, who really is a unique talent.

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Speaker 1: Here's the walkoff touchdown?

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Speaker 2: Are the fake Williams looking downfield?

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Speaker 3: Orson downfield?

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Speaker 5: Good God?

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Speaker 1: Djamo and great coaches are like great movie directors. You

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Speaker 1: gotta let the star kind of do his thing, however,

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Speaker 1: what the game plan is. And people are going to say, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Bears got a little bit lucky. They

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Speaker 3: So it's not just well.

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Speaker 1: Teams block punts all the time, teams recover on sidekicks.

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Speaker 1: What do you do with the opportunities presented and well coached?

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Speaker 1: Last night New England could have lost that puppy. New

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Speaker 1: England maybe gets a big interception or a fumble recovery, Well,

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Speaker 1: what do they do with it? Well coached teams take

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Speaker 1: advantage of those little breaks that every team in the

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Speaker 1: And here's Caleb after.

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Speaker 5: I got the best coach in the world. Let's put it.

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Speaker 5: Let's put it that way. And we have the best

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Speaker 5: coaching staff in the world. And so you put the

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Speaker 5: talent with the coaches and the people that care. You

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Speaker 5: can strive for anything, you can reach anything, you can

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Speaker 5: go after any goal. And when you go out there

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Speaker 5: high between players, between coaches, and you know you have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is uh.

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Speaker 1: Ryan was at the game, and the environment for anybody,

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Speaker 1: we all had different environments. One of our guys was

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Speaker 1: at home. It's like you could hear neighbors streaming. Chicago

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Speaker 1: has been waiting so long, not to just win games,

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Speaker 1: but to have a team like this that's offensively electric,

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Speaker 1: offensive minded and they've got show time. Chicago's always won

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Speaker 1: one way, win one way. They went with defense, they

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Speaker 1: went with toughness. To have it a electric offense is

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Speaker 4: J Mack.

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Speaker 1: I know there's some quarterbacks banged up that won't make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. But we have a lot of young quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: your Bo Nicks, you'r Drake May, You're Caleb that.

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Speaker 3: Are gonna be in CJ. Stroud.

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Speaker 1: Then we have older quarterbacks that Herbert that's had to

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Speaker 3: And you know they lose.

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Speaker 1: I kind of feel like it's gonna be an interesting mix.

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Speaker 1: No Mahomes, no Burrough, Proino, Lamar, but it'll be an

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have a wild January.

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Speaker 6: I'm one hundred percent with you. It feels like a

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Speaker 6: new era, Colin. All these young quarterbacks ushered in out

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Speaker 6: with the old. Sorry guys, Lamar, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 3: I don't know when.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna get back to the playoffs. I mean, you

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Speaker 6: talked about it last week. The Chiefs had a major rebuild.

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Speaker 6: Colin Ravens. You watched it roster last Nay, they don't

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Speaker 6: have anybody at all. The roster's terrible Lamar's lost this step.

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Speaker 6: It feels like the new era of quarterbacks is here.

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Speaker 3: Were interrupting our promo?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he wasn't talking about you. You took those clips

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Speaker 7: Let me put this into context.

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Speaker 4: Shut up.

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Speaker 1: Every year, college football gives us one or two franchise quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: This is the herd Line News.

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Speaker 6: All right, Colin, We're gonna bust right into it with

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Speaker 7: Colin.

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Speaker 6: Liam Cohen is talking some trash. Listen closely to what

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Speaker 3: Great team effort.

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Speaker 11: Just thankful that you know, a small market team like

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Speaker 7: You know, we really don't care about the narrative.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's I'm sorry to say that, but it's

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Speaker 4: So I I want the narrative to keep coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, they've been bad forever, so they've drafted a

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Speaker 1: So when you watch them play, there's all sorts of

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Speaker 1: They are a handful man. They got dudes.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Liam Cohen has done such a good job.

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Speaker 3: Kobe my stole to.

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Speaker 7: He loves him.

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Speaker 6: There's a kid named Parker Washington on Jacksonville. Colin, he

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Speaker 6: He is so good. I'm just telling you this team

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Speaker 6: But I think with what's working here, Colin is Cohen

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Speaker 6: And this is a dangerous team. By the way, four

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Speaker 7: The Jags are six and three against those teams.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think we all started to take notice when

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Speaker 7: Now it's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 6: If you look at the playoff lineup as of now,

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Speaker 6: Well, it's interesting because last week you and I were like, Buffalo,

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Speaker 6: I'm just telling you, like, Jacksonville has more guys than

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Speaker 1: Oh, there's something that's not even the roster's better. There's

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Speaker 6: Maybe maybe we're sleeping on Jacksonville.

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Speaker 6: All right, Next up, Colin, let's go to an incident

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Speaker 6: Apparently DK Metcalf and this fan have a history. According

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Speaker 6: I don't we know the rule don't touch fans. Okay,

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Speaker 6: I don't know how, Colin. How does DK Metcalf wonder

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Speaker 7: Or staff around him. I don't get that. Don't put

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Speaker 6: That being said, that doesn't give this clown the right

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Speaker 1: Fans, very very few, less than half of one percent

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Speaker 3: And that's one of these fans.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not as bad when you see it

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Speaker 6: Now, we've had DK Metcalf in the studio.

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Speaker 3: Right, You don't see it much. I've seen it in

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Speaker 1: You don't see it much because the proximity players are

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Speaker 6: It's a he said, he said, And you know it'll

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Speaker 7: Con let's go to that.

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Speaker 6: as the kids say, for Saquon Jalen Hurts and company.

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Speaker 6: Eagles win the division. But interestingly, late in the game,

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Speaker 6: Philly was up seventeen and they decided they were going

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Speaker 6: to go for a two point conversion. Well, wouldn't you

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Speaker 6: know it, Washington got unhappy with that one. Are you

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Speaker 6: going for two? Why are you pouring it on? I mean,

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Speaker 6: it's a two point conversion, guys, it's one point. Led

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Speaker 6: to a little fracas on the field and then Nick

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Speaker 6: Sirianni and dan Quinn talked about it. Listen closely to

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Speaker 6: what dan Quinn had to say.

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Speaker 12: I didn't, you know, again, we did that in the

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Speaker 12: best what we thought was Ben's interest or to get

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Speaker 12: up one more point has in my mind's not running

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Speaker 12: up the score. We're doing that because we're doing that

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Speaker 12: because they went right down and scored. So we're doing

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Speaker 12: that to give ourselves the best chance to win.

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Speaker 7: I can only answer for you know my side, what

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Speaker 7: I would do. But amen, like that's how they want

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Speaker 7: to get down and like all good. We play them

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Speaker 7: again in two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say my takeaway in this game, though

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Speaker 1: I know it's the Commanders, their defense is egregiously bad.

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Speaker 1: That was the best game Saquon Barkley's had all year.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts looked like Jalen Hurts two years ago. Aj

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Speaker 1: Brown DeVante Smith ran like, I thought that again, you

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Speaker 1: gotta be careful because between the Cowboys defense and the

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Speaker 1: Commander's defense, they make everybody look great. But that looked

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Speaker 1: like to a large degree, that looked like Philly a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Hurts running offensive line, getting big

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Speaker 1: holes that's why everybody think. I kept thinking, Okay, don't

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Speaker 1: don't take too much.

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Speaker 3: Out of this.

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Speaker 1: It is what it is. But I will save for Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: If you're an Eagles fan, you watched that. Okay, can

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Speaker 1: we get back? That's what we were two years ago.

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Speaker 6: So it looked like they decided to go in and

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Speaker 6: fast feed aj Brown Collin. He had the biggest half

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Speaker 6: of his NFL career. I think he had nine catches

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Speaker 6: in the first half. Didn't do much at all in

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Speaker 6: a second. Interesting note, I thought Tank Bigsby the backup

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Speaker 6: to Saque.

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Speaker 7: Did you see he had some juice? Yeah, I think

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Speaker 7: he's got some. I think we're gonna see a lot

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Speaker 7: of running.

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Speaker 6: If they get the members, they'll get Lane Johnson back,

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Speaker 6: and now Philly having locked it up the division, they

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Speaker 6: can sort of start a rest guys. I think that

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Speaker 6: could be pivotal.

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Speaker 1: I keep saying two years ago, this is what Philly was.

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Speaker 1: Last year my bad twenty twenty four. No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you look at Philadelphia, I mean the playoffs are weird.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't think anybody fears Carolina. I think everybody

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Speaker 1: fears playing the Niners. And and you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: so you don't want to see the Rams' fifth seed ever,

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Speaker 1: So it's and now Jordan Loves health to cross your

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Speaker 1: f My guess is he's back in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: But you know what you and I called it? Detroit,

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Speaker 1: did they have lost offensively? They are not the same team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Now here's the weird thing.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 6: I was writing off the Ravens and Chiefs and Bengals.

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Speaker 6: I don't think the lines are that far off because

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Speaker 6: they have a lot of guys. They just got to

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Speaker 6: get up fix the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Colin.

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Speaker 6: They were down to their third string center against Pittsburgh

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Speaker 6: yesterday and Jared Gott's getting blitzed up the middle, left.

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Speaker 7: And right the offensive line. Who was the guy who

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Speaker 7: retired before the season. They're centric now, Yeah, they could just.

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Speaker 6: Never replace him, and it was it was a tough blow.

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Speaker 7: I don't think they get in the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: But that Jordan Love hit that you mentioned Saturday, Oh

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Speaker 6: my gosh, he ain't coming back this week.

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Speaker 3: Nope, short week.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's not client Saturday.

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Speaker 3: J Mickle the.

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Speaker 2: News, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by

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Speaker 2: the herd line.

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Speaker 4: Miss.

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Speaker 1: People can be critical of the Dallas Cowboys. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: their consistency. They will not make the NFC Championship for

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Speaker 1: the thirtieth straight year. I appreciate that kind of commitment

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Speaker 1: and consistency from the Dallas Cowboys. What's interesting about the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys is they spend money on certain things, but when

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Speaker 1: it comes to coaches, they shop at the dollar store.

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Speaker 1: And once again, eber flues Schottenheimer. You know, it's like

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Speaker 1: the guy who spends money on good wine and flashy

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Speaker 1: clothes and won't spend good money on transportation or a

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Speaker 1: good mattress. You look around the NFL, the Sean Payton's,

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Speaker 1: the Rabels, the hardbaws. I mean, the Chargers win this

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Speaker 1: game convincingly. Here's what's amazing about the Chargers. Backups to

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Speaker 1: backups on the offensive line, third string running back. At

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Speaker 1: one point during the season, quarterback breaks his hand. Yet

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Speaker 1: the Chargers are top three and third down and lead

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Speaker 1: the NFL in time of possession. How how is that possible?

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Speaker 1: They if the worst hole line in football. They just

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Speaker 1: got Hampton back Nagee Harris has been a non factor.

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Speaker 1: How in the world are they good on third down?

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Speaker 1: It's called coaching, and so that's what Harbond Herbert can do.

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Speaker 1: You know the other thing we said, it's about New England.

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Speaker 1: So we went into this season and we all kind

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Speaker 1: of thought the same thing. Jaymck and I were like, man,

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Speaker 1: they're going to be really really light at wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: They need more weapons. And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: you look at.

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Speaker 1: Their weapons and you're like, oh, oh wait, Lad McConkie's great.

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Speaker 1: Quinton Johnston is not a bust. Trey Harris not huge production,

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Speaker 1: but the coaches love him. Will Disley. You start looking,

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Speaker 1: You're like, Keenan Allen's unbelievable. He's still a go to

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Speaker 1: third down receiver. Now you look at them and you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver spot, it's fine.

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Speaker 3: They're actually better than average.

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Speaker 1: That's like New England. It's amazing what a good draft

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Speaker 1: pick and good coaching can do. And again with backups everywhere,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys had no sacks on Justin Herbert. But it

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Speaker 1: is remarkable to me that Dallas will spend money on

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Speaker 1: so many things except coaching.

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Speaker 3: Look at the NFL standings right now.

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Speaker 1: Let me name some of the first place coaches AFC

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrable, Mike Tomlin, Liam Cohen, Sean Payton, Jim Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: go to the NFC, Ben Johnson, Matt Lafleur, Dave Canalis

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Speaker 1: has done wonders with Bryce Young, Mike McDonald, Sean McVeigh,

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Speaker 1: Kyle shanahan. The Chargers should not be eleven and four,

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Speaker 1: yet with the worst O line in the league, they

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Speaker 1: are six and one in one score games. They are

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Speaker 1: top ten against the run, red zone defense is unbelievable,

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Speaker 1: excellent offense defense on third down. Like a lot of

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Speaker 1: their numbers don't make sense considering what they've overcome. They

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Speaker 1: really don't. And you watch the second half of this game.

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Speaker 1: They do all the little stuff right. And the great

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Speaker 1: coaches can take units like wide receiver or tight end

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Speaker 1: New England and the Chargers they can take these units.

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Speaker 1: They're viewed as a weakness of vulnerability. And now I

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Speaker 1: look at the Patriots, Patriots passing game and their deep game,

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Speaker 1: and I watched the Chargers with Trey Harris and Quinton Johnson,

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Speaker 1: Ladd McConachy, I'm like, is that a strength? You think

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Speaker 1: you're doing that with an average coach. It's it's crazy

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Speaker 1: how well coached, how smart the Chargers are. And here

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Speaker 1: is horrible after the win over the Cowboys and our

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Speaker 1: team is it's.

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Speaker 11: Really it's player led. It's player driven. I mean these

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Speaker 11: are player led wins. You know, coaching is good, you

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Speaker 11: know there's uh it's a coaching matters, but the players

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Speaker 11: are the ones leading this team. And all started with

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Speaker 11: Justin and Justin Herbert and Derwin James and it has

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Speaker 11: been infectious the leadership.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the fact they lead the NFL in

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Speaker 1: time of possession, with the soul line and their top

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Speaker 1: three and third down.

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Speaker 3: It just makes it.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, the Patriots and the Chargers, that's what

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Speaker 1: great coaching does. You look at elements of both teams

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Speaker 1: last year, you looked at their receiving corps as among

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Speaker 1: the worst in the league, and now there's playmakers everywhere.

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Speaker 3: You're not doing that with average coaching.

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Speaker 1: Congrats on the fancy closed, the sports car and the

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Speaker 1: good wine. You may want to spend some money on

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Speaker 1: like getting to work and sleeping, right, You may want

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Speaker 1: to spend some money on the stuff that really matters,

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Speaker 1: and Dallas won't. And you can see it. The longer

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Speaker 1: this season goes, the more mediocrity you see. Don't forget Colin, right,

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Speaker 1: Colin wrong top of the hour and let me defend

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Speaker 1: the college football playoff.

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Speaker 3: Next the Herd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a Empacific.

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Speaker 6: The Colts try to keep their playoff hopes alive against

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Speaker 6: the division leading Jaguars or other regional action. Then in

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Speaker 6: America's Game of the Week, it's a potential Super Bowl

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Speaker 6: preview as Jalen Hurts and the Eagles take on Josh

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Speaker 6: Allen and the Bills. Check local listings for the games

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Speaker 6: in your area Sunday on box.

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of things, and our memories do

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Speaker 1: this to us. Your childhood memories are always greater than reality.

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Speaker 1: And I always feel like there's mythology in sports, especially

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Speaker 1: with like March Madness. There's always been a sense that, oh,

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Speaker 1: the opening weekend, man, it's like thirty buzzer beaters.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not the opening weekend.

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Speaker 2: Is not that.

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Speaker 1: This past March the NCAA Tournament the opening round, the

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Speaker 1: average margin of victory was seventeen points. Of the thirty

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Speaker 1: two first round games in the College March Madness college

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Speaker 1: basketball trun thirty two, twenty of thirty two two were blowouts.

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Speaker 3: Twenty.

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Speaker 1: If thirty two were blowouts, get over it. Anytime you

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Speaker 1: have a large college sports playoff, the college sports basketball

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Speaker 1: and football are not meant to be. Even if you win,

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Speaker 1: you have a better recruiting class in the NFL. The

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Speaker 1: Rams win the Super Bowl, they're drafting thirty two. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they're drafting thirty two. Yeah, Oregon hammer James Madison second half.

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Speaker 1: James Madison put some points up. Yes, it was like

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Speaker 1: the opening weekend of March Madness. You had a powerhouse

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Speaker 1: taking on a Bucknell.

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Speaker 3: That's what happens. Here's all I know.

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Speaker 1: The next seven games and the four this weekend are great.

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Speaker 1: The College Football Committee got the eight best teams in Oregon, Texas, Tech, Bama, Indiana,

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Speaker 1: Old Miss, Georgia, Miami, all of Ohio. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: they got the twelve best teams in. Now, that's not

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Speaker 1: what it means. They didn't get the twelve best teams in.

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Speaker 1: They got the eight best. And then there's some you know, qualifiers.

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Speaker 1: March Madness is not the sixty eight best teams.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not. There's a lot of automatic qualifiers.

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Speaker 1: You could take another team from the SEC or Big

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Speaker 1: twelve that are better than.

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Speaker 3: Teams that got in.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so don't tell me March madness gets all the

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Speaker 1: best teams in. There's a lot of babysitting in college sports.

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Speaker 1: You gotta make sure everybody's happy, and it's collegiate even

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Speaker 1: though the players get paid now. So we don't let

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Speaker 1: in any large playoff system in college, which has always

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Speaker 1: been a top heavy business, we don't let the best in.

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Speaker 1: All I know is this, Miami proved they should have

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Speaker 1: been in. Everybody complained about that. Miami proved with that

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Speaker 1: defense they should have been in. Notre Dame gave up

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Speaker 1: forty one to Texas A and M they gave up three.

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Speaker 1: Miami gave up three to Texas A and M. That

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Speaker 1: defense needed to be in the playoffs, and Alabama winning

655
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: at Norman they needed to be in the playoff too.

656
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 1: A lot of people think they're going to be Indiana.

657
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 3: I don't. A lot of people do.

658
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: So here's the bottom line. You and I for years,

659
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: the people that said we don't need a playoff, and

660
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: you probably had a point, used to always say, I've

661
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: never thought the fifth best team in the country has

662
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: a chance to be national champions.

663
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 3: So what do you lose in sleep?

664
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: If we don't get the twelve best teams in, we

665
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: get the eight best teams in, and then we can

666
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: argue about nine through twelve. But March madness, it's all mythology.

667
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: Twenty of the thirty two games last year were ballouts.

668
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: And then you get to Sunday of that first weekend,

669
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: You're like, Wow, now you got a Villanovo play at

670
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: a you know, a gone Zaga or a really big

671
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: time programs. So I I you know it would be

672
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: one if you got the twelve best teams in. I

673
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: like Texas, I like Notre Dame. They're not winning a Natty.

674
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: Miami's defense is as good as anybody's in this entire playoff.

675
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 3: They needed to be in.

676
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: And say what you want about Alabama, Kayleen de Moor

677
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: is fantastic in the history of college football. Losing somebody

678
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 1: as good as Saban and then nailing your next coach

679
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: and remember, not the same Alabama. You can't stack your

680
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: rosters now. You don't have the depth. Georgia didn't have

681
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: the depth. LSU didn't have the depth. I didn't have

682
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: a problem with it. I think the next four games

683
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: and the final seven in this tournament are gonna be great.

684
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: The other story JJ McCarthy, and we're all kind of

685
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: waiting to see what they're gonna do. In Minnesota, he

686
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: got hurt again, and so he's gotten better at the

687
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: quarterback thing, and the kid deserves he deserves respect for that.

688
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: They're built to win now, they got good players. I

689
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: just have a hard time believing this guy for the

690
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: next twelve years is starting seventeen games since being drafted.

691
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: There are thirty two games he could have played in.

692
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: He's missed twenty three. And again there's been knee injuries, ankle, concussion, hand,

693
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: And now you could say, well you Colin Joe Burrow

694
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: gets hurt, and Lamar Jackson gets hurt, and Colin Jaden

695
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 1: Daniels got hurt. Yeah, but when those guys are healthy,

696
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: there is no denying their greatness. I still don't know

697
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: if JJ McCarthy, forget the injuries, I don't know what

698
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: he is. So we're two years into this experiment and

699
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: he was the one quarterback in this class. I'm like,

700
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: I don't see what you guys are seeing. You and

701
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: I are going to agree to disagree on this. He

702
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: has gotten better at the quarterback thing, but when he

703
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: is healthy it doesn't look like Burrow or Jaden Daniels.

704
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: It doesn't look like that.

705
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: So one of the reasons I like Caleb Williams and

706
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: Vo Nicks and Drake May is durability. We all know

707
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: that it matters a lot. So Patrick Mahomes at one

708
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: point made seven straight AFC championships. That means after the beating,

709
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: he took all year and he had some bad old lines,

710
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: he was there. I'm waiting for seven straight games with

711
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy and so I'm kind of two years through it.

712
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of it. This team

713
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: is built to win now. I know that because I

714
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: watched him last year with Sam Darnold, and here's Kevin

715
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: O'Connell after the win.

716
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 10: This game, and he's a competitor, and you know, I

717
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 10: think it's I think it's something where he's gonna go

718
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 10: out there and lay it on the line every single week.

719
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 10: It is unfortunate just thinking about what these last three

720
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 10: weeks and really two and a half weeks or so,

721
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 10: outside of you know, outside of that last play of

722
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 10: the half there. I mean, he's looked like he's really

723
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 10: found a place of decisiveness, ownership of the offense. I

724
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 10: mean the discussion and the dialogue about things he's seeing.

725
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's a bummer.

726
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he's gotten better at the quarterback thing. You

727
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: can't deny that. We've got to be fair playing with

728
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: much more confidence. They got a little bit of a break.

729
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: A giant lined up off sides and would have been

730
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: the second defensive touchdown by the New York Giants against

731
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy's offense, and he got called back. So they

732
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: got a bit of a break there by just a

733
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, a rush and lining up off sides. But

734
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: I so much of this sport, and it was funny

735
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: because if you go to a Bears game and you're

736
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: close to Caleb Williams, dude is big. You guys make

737
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: fun of me when I say trunky. You sit next

738
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: to Sam Darnold, You're like, Sam doesn't look like your

739
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: buddy in your fantasy football league. Sam looks like a

740
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: pro athlete. Sam's head is big, his butt is big,

741
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: his shoulders are big. You're next to Caleb Williams, he

742
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: doesn't look like your fantasy football league. Guys either like that,

743
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: dude is big. So I think the questions about Jayden Daniels,

744
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: although remarkable as a rookie, I think they're legit. Like

745
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels is thin and it matters, stand healthy matters,

746
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: So I don't know what they're gonna do with him.

747
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: I know I watched team last year with Darnold and

748
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: I thought they had super Bowl potential.

749
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: So we'll see.

750
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: Uh, there's gonna be seven eight nine quarterbacks drafted. I'd

751
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: roll the dice and probably drafted another one somewhere, didn't

752
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: have to be in the first round. But yeah, he's

753
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: just thirty two potential starts since becoming a Viking. He's

754
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: missed twenty three of them. That's I don't know what

755
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: you do with it. And it's been different stuff hand neat, concussion.

756
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: You know, some of it's scary. So I don't know

757
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: where you go. J Mackett was a really interesting weekend

758
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: if you count you know, Saturday as well Friday of

759
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: the playoff. You start looking at these NFL matchups in

760
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: a Round one because we're getting close now. The Detroit

761
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: loss gave you some clarity. You look at the NFC.

762
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: If Detroit would have won, we would have had potentially

763
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: a team like as good as San Francisco missing but

764
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: potentially getting close to like missing the Earth. I mean,

765
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: Carolina is eight seven, massive improvement, no guarantee. Green Bay

766
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: right now, no guarantee. So I mean now San Francisco's

767
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: in now, but there somebody is going to miss the playoffs,

768
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: Green Bay and it may just come down to injuries.

769
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: May just miss the playoffs. You if Detroit would have won,

770
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: I was sitting there yesterday, I wrote down the teams

771
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, God, somebody, somebody had they gotten that

772
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: Jared Goff from the lateral in and it counted?

773
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 3: It didn't.

774
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: The call was right, pass interference armor on Saint Brown.

775
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: The NFC is so much better to me than the

776
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: AFC this year.

777
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 7: Yeah.

778
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 6: The only problem is even if Detroit had to go

779
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 6: to Chicago or Philly in the cold, they're not winning

780
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 6: in January, right. I think we would agree with that,

781
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 6: especially with that offensive line. That being said, if Green

782
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 6: Bay can get their health in order, back end of

783
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 6: the defense, Jordan Love, obviously, they could be a spicy team,

784
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 6: like you don't want to have Round three against the Bears.

785
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 6: I don't know who I'd pick in that game. I mean,

786
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 6: it felt like a listen it was. It was a

787
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 6: I mean the Bears were down ten at home with

788
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 6: two minutes less. Okay, they were about to get swept.

789
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 6: I know you don't like the word lucky. They got

790
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 6: lucky as hell.

791
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: Well they got lucky, they got well.

792
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean again, Romeo Dobbs has it, loses it and

793
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: you and all of a sudden you saw a swarm

794
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: of Bear jerseys and then they have a great drive,

795
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: and then in overtime they make big stops. So you

796
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: gotta everybody gets breaks in life. I always think luck

797
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: is evenly equally distributed. It's what you do with the

798
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 1: luck that presents itself in life. Chicago got a little

799
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: bit of a break, and they took advantage of an

800
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: offense and defense, and hour two in a Monday Colin

801
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: right wrong,