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Speaker 1: Hmm. There's a place beyond this place, a middle ground

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Speaker 1: between the light and the darkness, the natire and the zenith.

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Speaker 1: For some it's a bridge between the living and the dead.

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Speaker 1: Yet for others, it's something else entirely, it's the place

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Speaker 1: where our nightmares dwell. Each one of us has touched

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Speaker 1: the other side and felt the presence of something beyond

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Speaker 2: Faces in the house, I don't recognize looking in emeracy,

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Speaker 2: the devil's eyes mixing too much. I mean, I get

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Speaker 2: crazy now I'm back alone on my Patrick Sway.

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Speaker 3: Ghost gave it everything and only took her. Oh yes,

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Speaker 3: the parasite is looking Fuck ho did you so the

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Speaker 3: minic find it? Does you sew the sign and side.

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Speaker 4: That you ain't never met again?

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Speaker 1: Today on Hip Hop Horror Stories, we have Detroit Native

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Speaker 1: and Shade, four or five hosts, Rude Jude with a

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Speaker 1: dark taiale of demonic possession from the Motor City. Was

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Speaker 1: the evil just in his mind or was he truly possessed?

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Speaker 1: Find out next.

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Speaker 5: So like the first time I did mushrooms, I was

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Speaker 5: on my homeboy Jinks and we didn't know how many

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Speaker 5: we were supposed to do, so we did a lot.

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Speaker 5: We did a bunch probably shit like an eighth each.

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Speaker 5: Damn there. We was really really gone. And this was

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Speaker 5: twenty five years ago, twenty six years ago, something like that.

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Speaker 5: It was Friday, and I scored a bunch of mushrooms

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Speaker 5: from this kid and I hollered at because we both

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Speaker 5: had the night off. Somehow we worked at a restaurant together.

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Speaker 5: He was running the house, I was. I was in

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Speaker 5: front of the house waiting tables, and I got them

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Speaker 5: a job back in the house.

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Speaker 4: So we was both somehow we both miracules.

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Speaker 5: Got this ship and I got drugs, and he's got

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Speaker 5: he's got to vehicle, so an explorer.

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Speaker 4: So we dose and he's screaming, and it's like it's

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Speaker 4: it's it's it's a fall night. It's it's it's probably

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Speaker 4: about this time of year. It's probably this time of year, like.

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Speaker 5: In October November, late October November, Chris leaves, some of

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Speaker 5: the leaves are down, have fallen, and and I'm in

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Speaker 5: the Midwest. I'm by Detroit, so it's like the trees

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Speaker 5: look like skeletons. All of the different drugs really didn't

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Speaker 5: reach the black community at that point, you know, it

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Speaker 5: was just mostly like I don't know, crack and heroin

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Speaker 5: and maybe some PCP and weed and shit. So showing

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Speaker 5: up with psychedelics from my homeboy it was kind of

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Speaker 5: mind blowing for him.

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Speaker 4: It was it.

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Speaker 5: Was like looking at his hand, looking at his tattoos,

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Speaker 5: like the grim repri was coming out of his skin

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Speaker 5: and all that shit. So I'm like, man, let's go

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Speaker 5: holler some chicks, because just us two sitting in this

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Speaker 5: apartment probably wasn't the best idea. So we go out

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Speaker 5: from Pontiac. We drive out to the Nose and we

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Speaker 5: drive around, and we drive around Pontiac and this is

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Speaker 5: a rust belt city.

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Speaker 4: It's gutted. There's nothing. There's just nothing there out of

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Speaker 4: the roads. And I remember, like.

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Speaker 5: We're at a stoplight driving up and the fucking shopping

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Speaker 5: carts kind of rolled by itself down past us and.

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Speaker 4: Fucking stock in the street. And we laugh. We're like,

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Speaker 4: hell no, what the fuck? What the fuck is this ship?

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Speaker 4: He hops out the car, he moves it.

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Speaker 5: When he went ouside to go all of his girls,

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Speaker 5: he just left me there and like, there's nothing like

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Speaker 5: me in a closed space in the dark while you're

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Speaker 5: tripping for the first fucking time, like it's a lot.

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Speaker 4: You don't know what you're gonna get. You don't know

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Speaker 4: what you're gonna get.

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Speaker 5: You don't like tripping a tripples wild until you do it,

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Speaker 5: then you know what you expect. And when you start

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Speaker 5: mushrooms from me, there's a heavy feeling. It almost feels

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Speaker 5: like something's pouring over me. Sometimes like acid is lighter,

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Speaker 5: it's more like it's more there's more of an agitated feeling.

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Speaker 4: Mushrooms not like that.

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Speaker 5: It's like kind of laid back and you can feel

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Speaker 5: it pouring over you. So I got that pouring over

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Speaker 5: me feeling like and I hear you just wrapping like

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Speaker 5: And then you're adrenaline kicks in because that's what you're doing.

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Speaker 5: You're poisoning yourself. So your adrenaline kicks in once that

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Speaker 5: I'm like, damn, s motherfucker's taking a minute, you know,

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Speaker 5: like a few songs are gone by.

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile he's in there.

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Speaker 5: I guess he was telling me he was trying to

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Speaker 5: his hands, so he really didn't do much job. He

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Speaker 5: stuck with that. So I'm out in that car and

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Speaker 5: when I shut my eyes, I remember the forgot about this.

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Speaker 4: So the lights. The car drives by.

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Speaker 5: And there's the red there's the red lights that turn

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Speaker 5: into two eyeballs staring at ship. I shut my eyes

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Speaker 5: and there's a fluorescent I see a fluorescent river of

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Speaker 5: skulls going down like like a waterfall from my right

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Speaker 5: eye to my left eye, just going that way, and

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Speaker 5: uh like, I shake it off like hell fucking no,

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Speaker 5: a lot of hell offs, a lot of I'm just.

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Speaker 4: Saying, hell of a lot, like hell, motherfucking lawn dog.

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Speaker 5: And I flip it down, flip down, up the advisor

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Speaker 4: Look like, yo, what the fuck is going on? I'm

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Speaker 4: like rubbing my eyes.

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Speaker 5: I'm rubbing my face and I'm looking at myself and

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Speaker 5: my dad starts looking back.

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Speaker 4: At me, and I'm like, shit, man. So that's when

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Speaker 4: I shut my eyes.

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Speaker 5: And it's fluorescent still, and it's like I'm a child,

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Speaker 5: and I'm like I'm going back to.

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Speaker 4: A child, and I'm being grady and rocked like this demon,

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Speaker 4: this demonic entity. I like my face. I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: my face and it turned into my dad's face. Oh shit.

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Speaker 4: And you know, there's.

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Speaker 5: Nothing scarier than looking like your old man, because it's

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Speaker 5: the last you know, that's the last thing you want

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Speaker 5: to end up being, like, right, you wants to be

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, I shake it off, and I shut

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Speaker 5: And because I can't even see it in my in

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Speaker 5: my head right now as I'm telling.

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Speaker 4: You, it's uh.

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Speaker 5: I was being cradled by a demon, like a straight

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Speaker 5: up demon was cradling me like to its bosom, and.

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Speaker 4: I was like, hell no, man, what the fun was that?

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Speaker 4: And I wasn't scared or anything. I was just like

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Speaker 5: I think I said, hell no, that said demons, and

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Speaker 4: Just kind of left it at that.

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Speaker 5: And I never really thought anything of it, except for

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Speaker 5: the first time I tripped balls. I was chilling with demons,

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Speaker 5: but I wasn't afraid. I just was just a matter

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Speaker 4: That's like.

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Speaker 5: Twenty some years later, maybe fifteen twenty years later, and

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Speaker 5: now I'm living in Los Angeles and I got a job.

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Speaker 5: I'm I'm working with serious I'm gonna shake forty five.

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Speaker 5: And I went to like one of the psychic fairs

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Speaker 5: for the show, and you know, you should just try

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Speaker 5: to find an interesting guest, so maybe some topics to

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Speaker 5: talk about something like that, you know, just I'm not

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Speaker 5: really into this whole psychics thing.

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Speaker 4: The problem with the psychic thing to me is like.

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Speaker 5: It's so easy, Like if you agree to go to

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Speaker 5: a psychic, you're paying, You're showing them that, like, hey,

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Speaker 5: I believe this, Like whether whether you say you believe

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Speaker 5: listen to them. You're giving that some And the problem

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Speaker 5: with it is to me is like they can they

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Speaker 5: can plant they can plant ideas in your head and

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Speaker 5: change the future for you. So because you're not going

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Speaker 5: to it's the future the way you might have. So

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Speaker 5: let me I'll talk to a psyche.

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Speaker 4: So I sit down.

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Speaker 5: She's like, what do you want to know about? And

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Speaker 5: I was like, man, I don't know. Man, I'm just

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Speaker 5: keep it light. I'm here for my job. And she's talking.

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Speaker 5: I forgot what the fuck she was saying. It's you know,

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Speaker 5: stupid things. And then she was like, you have a

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Speaker 5: demon next to you. I said what she said, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you got a demon?

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Speaker 4: And he's laughing.

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Speaker 5: He's laughing, and he's keep that demon next to you

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Speaker 5: when he rides he rides to demon, rides you with

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Speaker 5: a crop, and he's got you almost to die. He's

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Speaker 5: almost made you die countless times. And it was like

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Speaker 5: it was a punch in the heart. You know, you

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Speaker 5: always feel like you got one, you know sometimes, but

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Speaker 5: is it something supernatural or is it just like moods?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 5: Is it just is this just moods or something supernatural?

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Speaker 5: And I like, I thought back to all those times

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Speaker 5: when you know, I trip balls countless times since then,

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Speaker 5: get kind of freaked out by myself and have to

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Speaker 5: don't know, watch television, can't look at the mirror because

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Speaker 5: something darker is there with me. And when she said that,

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Speaker 5: like all of that stuff, and I'm like, man, nah,

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Speaker 5: it's she's tripping. Man, I don't got a fucking demon,

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Speaker 5: you know, I just I just got I got moods,

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Speaker 5: I got depression. Maybe I don't even like to say depressing.

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Speaker 5: No more like because like that cripples you too, And

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Speaker 5: and I'm like, nah, man, oh yeah, And it was

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Speaker 5: like your dad, I forgot that ship. She was like yeah,

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Speaker 5: and the demon, the demon is this is something that

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Speaker 5: this is passed down on your father's side. Your dad

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Speaker 5: must have done something awful. Dad did something awful, and

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Speaker 5: my dad has done awful and his dad's gone off

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Speaker 4: To me, I was like, whose father hasn't you know

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Speaker 4: the fine awful We've all done awful things, but my dad,

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Speaker 4: you know, he's done. He's done some fucking some ship

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Speaker 4: to stain the soul. And uh.

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Speaker 5: When she said down, I was just like, I don't

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Speaker 5: know if this bitch is cherry picking or what, but

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Speaker 5: it hit me in my heart and the only the

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Speaker 5: only thing, you know, I'm sitting there like I just

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Speaker 5: wanted to. I just wanted this fucking woman to, like,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, tell me to stay away from a

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Speaker 5: guy named Bob or some shit like that, or you know,

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Speaker 5: you psychic lady like hey, seven's your lucky number? Better

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Speaker 5: on that ship something like that, don't take this next strip,

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Speaker 5: and you know I'm sitting here was this weird existential

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Speaker 5: crisis about demons in my life.

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Speaker 4: Thinking about.

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Speaker 5: Thinking about the crazy ship that I've done where I've

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Speaker 5: was control observed myself almost like I wasn't myself as

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Speaker 5: I fucking turned into a maniac.

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Speaker 4: And then was that the demon? Was?

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Speaker 5: That was that me? Or was at the demon? And uh,

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Speaker 5: the only thing that the only thing that made me

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Speaker 5: feel better was like at the end of it, she

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Speaker 5: was like, ah, I can get rid of them for

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Speaker 4: But I watched myself.

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Speaker 4: Right for a lot of my life. And it's like

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Speaker 4: And it's that thing. It's like, is the Sarah quote

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Speaker 5: So I'm into where I'm looking into another dimension or

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Speaker 4: This wasn't like any other hallucination.

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Speaker 5: These things had their own they seem had their own

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Speaker 5: It's light out. And the thing that fucked me up

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Speaker 4: Man, fuck me up. I was like, I was like, God,

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Speaker 5: This motherfucker's on another plane. There's tons of shit that's

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Speaker 1: For Jude, that line was something he lived with every day.

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Speaker 4: It could never get a red No, it could never

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