WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Tonight, Tonight, Tonight 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.240 Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:10.360 The Bengals Booth Podcast. The I'm Gonna Make It Right 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:18.079 tonight Tonight tonight. Oh. Addition, as the Bengals look to 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:20.720 improve to three and one tonight as they host Urban 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:26.040 Meyers Win List Jacksonville Jaguars on Thursday Night Football. Coming up, 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:28.640 I'll go one on one with wide receiver Jamar Chase, 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:31.880 who is off to an incredible start as an NFL rookie. 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.160 Dave Lapham joined me to discuss the latest Bengals news 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:38.000 and share some keys to beating the Jags. I'll catch 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:41.040 up with NFL Network host Colleen Wolf, who is in 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.920 town tonight to host the NFL Game Day kickoff show. 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.000 And finally, it's our No the Faux segment as we 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.360 discussed the oh and three Jags with Jacksonville sports columnist 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.840 Gene Frenette. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Bud Light. 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:58.120 Seltzer refreshed the game and here's a quick reminder that 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.920 you can have the latest edition of this podcast delivered 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:05.240 write to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitch, 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.759 your Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. It's the greatest 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:13.680 thing since the Ring of Honor tribute video. At halftime 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.640 of tonight's game, the Bengals will induct their inaugural Ring 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:19.720 of Honor class, made up of Paul Brown, Anthony Munio's, 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:23.480 Ken Anderson, and Ken Riley. If you haven't watched it already, 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:26.440 you have to check out the seventeen minute and thirty 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.199 second video called Best in Class that can be found 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.840 on Bengals dot com and YouTube. It was written and 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:35.920 narrated by Bengals dot Com editor Jeff Hobson, and it's 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:39.200 a tremendous history lesson on this year's Ring of Honor class. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.520 Don't take my word for it, watch it as soon 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:46.279 as you finish this podcast. Now, let's get to my guests, 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.760 beginning with Jamar Chase, who last week became the ninth 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:53.000 player in history to catch a touchdown pass and each 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:57.280 of his first three NFL games. Jamar, here's my first 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.720 hard hitting question, how the heck did you hold on 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:03.480 to that long touchdown pass last week? Because it looked 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.680 like you caught the back third of the football, just 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:08.880 all the ball hand out coordination and concentrating on the 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.720 ball and it was following it all the way through 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.560 the catch, so ended up holding on to a thing. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.640 Got out of here it. That touchdown pass came with 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.480 thirty seven seconds left in the half. And here's how 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:23.720 Joe Burrow described it after the game quote, Jamar came 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:25.919 up to me before that play and said, just throw 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:28.840 it up to me, just throw it. Did that really happen? 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.760 And if so, why did you tell him that? Uh? Yeah, 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:34.160 that did happen. I told him if I had forty 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.200 two him and just throw it up. I only told 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.040 him that because I've seen the first time of previous play. 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.520 We ran the same play, and I told him what 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.080 I've seen from the exact same last place. I was 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:46.800 like about through it again. I just throw it this 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:48.400 time and I know if it's surely don't work. So 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:52.200 capitalized on it. Great call, great catch. We're visiting with 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:56.079 Jamar Chase. So that touchdown pass stung the fans in 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.880 Pittsburgh because the Steelers had tied the game and then 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:02.760 twenty seven seconds later you score the touchdown. Can you 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.480 describe what it's like to shut up a road crowd? Well, 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.280 it was quiet, and that feel like the home game. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.919 Almost when we had the ball, they started making a 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.200 little noise on the offense on defensive side when the 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.000 defense got out there, So that just means some of 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.280 our fans got out got Pistoburgh's fans going along with us, 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:23.840 so it was good. Let's get to your second touchdown catch. 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.720 We heard after the game that you were Joe Burrows 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.560 fifth read. How unusual is it to see the ball 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.920 when you're the fifth read on a play, right, as 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.120 usually we have something for it. Of course, that's why 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.360 I'm the fifth read. I'm just worked trying to work 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.040 my way across the fields and make sure I'll stay 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.360 in the play, make sure if the players keeps going 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.480 that I'm in Joe's view. Um, I actually didn't see 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:48.720 Joe at all. I've just seen the ball come out 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:50.840 of his hands and that's all I seen was the 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:52.520 ball flying in the air and had to be at me. 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.400 That was a tribute to the offensive line right for 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.000 hit them to give that kind of protection. Shout out 0:03:58.080 --> 0:03:59.920 I said. I definitely get him a shout out doing 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.800 my interview at the last game, though, those buzz held 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.400 it down for chatting with Jamar Chase. You beat a 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.040 three time Pro Bowl around that play. Joe Hayden. Is 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.960 it a big deal for you to compete against guys 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:14.000 you grew up watching on TV? Oh? Yeah, definitely, just 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:16.880 because of you know, just experience I'm in right now. Um. 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:18.960 You know, I can't wait to grold and tell my kids, 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.920 you know, grandkids and stuff like that. But um, it's 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:23.320 just a blessing, you know what I'm saying, just to 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:27.080 watch those guys m be Hall of Fame famous talk 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.760 about and and you know, have the opportunity to go 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.560 against them and work my craft. So h it's just 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.760 something you gotta be tick part of and love battling 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.600 growing old. It's not all it's cracked up to be. Trusting. 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.600 Let's go back to the preseason when you were uncharacteristically 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:47.120 dropping some passes. Every receiver drops balls. But have you 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:52.440 ever had a stretch like that? Uh No, Nah, not really. Um, 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.520 I've always caught my pass when they were here to me. Um, 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.520 majority of time. If I'm wide open, I did want 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.200 in a CHAMPI been shipped. I let the ball come 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.680 to track to me too close and messed up my 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:08.160 fingers on that play. But no, not too often. When 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.599 people ask me about you during the preseason, I said 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:13.000 I'm not worried for two reasons. Number One, there's no 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:16.279 history of it. Number Two, I've never seen a guy 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:20.400 catch more passes after practice than you do, whether it's 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:25.279 out the jugs machine or from quarterbacks. It's crazy. Did 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.400 you do that even more than usual this training camp? 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.440 Or is that the norm for you? That's actually pretty normal. 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:32.479 When I was at LSU, I was always doing it 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.960 after practice too, sometimes before practice, just to get my 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.640 hands going. I know on Mondays in college, I used 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.880 to do no glove Monday just to get my hands 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.480 prepare for the rest of the day. So it's Thursday 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:47.440 night football this week, your first NFL prime time game. 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:50.400 What's this mean to you? Just means another game on 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.760 the list, you know, just a different day, earlier day. 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:57.200 Just gotta get in my film, get on the plays, Michelle, 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:00.320 I execute the right way and just concentrateing have ton 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.719 of vision into this game. In high school and college, 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.719 you don't play two games in five days. How challenging 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:09.120 is that? That's pretty exciting to be honest, just to 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.840 have this transition change that fast. I woke up today 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:14.880 like what is today really? When I walked in the building, 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.240 because I realized it was so fast, but you gotta 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:19.920 like it, you know what I'm saying. I'm pretty excited 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.039 about this game, just because it's a Thursday game, and 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.440 you know, it's just happening so fast for me, so 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.520 I'm excited for it. You look like you're having a blast, 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.640 are you. Yeah. I am having fun. Joe even told 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.120 me this is fun. So as long as Joe having fun, 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.040 I'm having fun. The offense having fun. Defense is flying 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:40.640 around having fun. It's gonna be a great football team. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.560 We're having fun watching. Congratulations on a great start. I 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:47.479 appreciate your time. Thank you. If Jamar catches a touchdown 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:52.040 pass tonight, he'll join Martavis Bryant, Dante Stalworth, and Charlie 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.239 Brown as the only players in history with touchdown catches 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.880 and each of their first four NFL games. Not that 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.920 Charlie Brown, this one was a two time Pro bowler 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:06.000 for Washington. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Bud 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.080 Light Seltzer. It's light and refreshing with a hint of 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:11.800 fruit flavor. Now time to discuss some of the key 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:17.080 storylines heading into tonight's game with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.520 Lap Your first NFL coach and three of your former 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:21.840 teammates make up the first Ring of Honored class that 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.640 will be inducted at halftime on Thursday. Do I need 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:28.800 to have some cleanex available in the broadcast booth? It 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:32.720 is going to be a very special night, for sure, 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:37.360 you know. I think it's it's long overdue celebration of 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:43.440 their greatness. And the first class is just no brainer, 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:48.640 unbelievable accomplishments. And the common denominator is, as we said 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:52.120 many times for as great coach, player, et cetera, that 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:57.480 they were top notch, you know, quality human being that 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:02.320 has done not things for their fashion, but things for humanity, 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:05.760 you know, things for society, things for the world. And 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:09.480 Paul Brown was always one that was very interested in 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.240 what are you gonna do when you're done with football? 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.960 He'd tell us all the time, men, football, this is 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:15.680 just a short phase of your life. When you're done 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:18.320 playing football, you're gonna be young people. You'll still be 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:20.560 in your early thirties for the most part, maybe even 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:22.960 younger than that. What are you going to do with yourself? 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:24.920 What are you going to do? How are you going 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:28.120 to be successful? And he always monitored and track guys, 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:31.440 and he'd be extremely proud of these three guys going 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:36.600 into the Ring of Honors man. They accomplished even more 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.440 probably or at least as much when they were done playing, 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.800 as they did when they played. And it's not just 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.480 about Paul Brown and those three players. This week, nearly 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.880 forty members of the nineteen eighty one Super Bowl team 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:51.400 will also be celebrated. The fortieth anniversary of that season 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.559 is obviously this year. I know, coming up short in 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:58.040 the Super Bowl still stings, But twelve teams have never 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.200 won one. Four teams have never been to one forty 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:05.240 years later. Is there a different bond between a team 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:07.160 that made it to a Super Bowl and the other 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.720 ones that you played on? Yeah? I think I think 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.880 that even though getting over the bitterness of losing the 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.760 biggest game in your life and not playing well, that's 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.480 the thing that bothers you. I mean, if you had, 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.400 if you had played lights out and you lost, because 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.800 you know, they were just so that team was on 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:25.680 that day and they were great, you know, I think 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.960 I think it might be easier to accept. But we 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.640 outgained them, you know, we thought we were the better 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.880 football team. That the self destruction part of it just 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.720 man just stays with you. It's like we just had 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.600 taken care of business on our end of things and 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.400 not put ourselves on our schedule, probably be walking around 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.160 with super Bowl rings rather than just AFC Championship rings. 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.800 But I do think that that that AFC Championship the 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:51.920 first one enfranchise history that this team, to me, the 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:55.640 eighty one Super Bowl sixteen is just like a part 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.559 of it and it's not a successful part of it 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.400 memory wise, but this team was the first team to 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.560 win a playoff game, the first team to win an 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.200 NFC championship, And that's the thing that I think I 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:07.760 am very proud of, and I know a lot of 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.240 other guys that I'm friends with on the team are 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.319 extremely proud of, and that the eighty one Super Bowl 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.160 to have the freezea Bowl connotation. You know, it's a 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:19.720 unique special game. It's a very historic NFL game because 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:21.680 of the weather conditions and everything. To be part of 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.839 that is you know, something telling my grandkids about, for 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:28.720 example today. So I can't believe it's forty years but 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.760 Father Time's undefeated. Man, there's no doubt except for Tom Brady, 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.400 Tom Brady one, and oh versus father time so far. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:38.480 All right, let's get to this year's team two and 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:41.120 one after last week's big win in Pittsburgh. I want 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:45.000 to talk about the defense. Sixth in points allowed, fifth 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:48.520 in yards per run aloud, fourth in yards per pass 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:51.240 attempt allowed, which speaks to how good they've been in 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:54.079 every phase. When did you start to think that this 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.920 group it's going to be pretty darn good? Yeah, I 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:59.240 mean when we were watching training camp, Damn, We're like, 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:02.720 is the defense that good? Or is the offense that bad? 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:04.880 You know, and you're going again, They're going against each 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.800 other every day, and so it's hard to it's hard 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:11.199 to draw any conclusions until they start playing other other opponents. 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:15.600 But come to find out on defensive line and is 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:18.240 very good. I mean, and I think it's going to 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.840 be a very interesting challenge for them in this football 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.960 game on Thursday night because I think the Jacksonville Jaguars 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:28.280 interior their centers good man, that's a salty dude. He's 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.360 a hell of a player. And the guards are adequate. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:34.280 They're they're very solid NFL players. I think the Bengals 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.680 advantage is at tackling tight end, you know, on the edge. 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:40.439 So the big defensive tackles, which that's that's the thing 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.800 that impressed us is watch them. It's so big. I mean, 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.080 nobody Bengals aren't moving them or other people are going 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:47.679 to be able to move them. Nobody's really been able 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.520 to move them all that much. As you mentioned the 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.040 numbers in the in the running game, no running back 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.720 is gotten over sixty one yards against them, and they're 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:57.800 going to be challenged this week. You know, Robinson is 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.840 a is a hell of a back and you know, 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.600 uh Hides a great one as well, and they're really 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:07.200 good between the tackles, running their their duo's inside zone 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:09.679 and you know, draw plays and things that nature. So 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.320 it's going to be interesting. But I think I think 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:14.880 what they did in free agency with the defensive line 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.800 and making the commitment to the young linebackers is really 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.440 starting to pay off. I mean that the young linebacker corps, 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:23.600 of course, led by Logan Wilson Um he's six in 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.480 the NFL and tackles with thirty and you know, he's 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:29.400 got three interceptions as leaves all linebackers tied for the 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:33.120 lead in the National Football League overall playmaker. And I 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:37.800 think that combination of you know, getting these upper crusted 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.440 defensive linemen and free agency and supplementing it in the 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:44.520 draft for for depth. Uh, and then and then getting 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.480 those young linebackers in the draft and committing to them, 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.559 and um, you know, coach Al Golden has done a 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.040 hell of a job with that line linebacker group. He's 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.160 really brought them along big time. So yeah, I mean, 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.480 I think the defensive front seven is playing really well, 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:01.720 and with the injuries that they've got on the back 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:03.880 end for this football game, that front seven is going 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:09.200 to be big and uh. And then offensively, it's their responsibility. 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:12.640 I remember, you know, we talk about it. Guys. Look, 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.959 our defense is beaten up. You know, we got to 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.000 stay on the field. We got to control the clock, 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:21.240 the line of scrimmage, the game. You know, they they've 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:24.640 played eighty seven snaps. We played forty two. Come on, 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:27.280 let's we gotta we gotta step up. It's time for 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.600 the offense to get something done. And the best offense 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.520 is a best defense is a real good offense is 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.640 keeping the defense off the field. So let's talk about 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.880 the offense currently middle of the pack and points scored 0:13:38.920 --> 0:13:41.000 per game, partly because they played it safe with a 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.480 big lead in the second half last week. What's the 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:45.880 next step that you would like to see out of 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:49.000 this offense. I'd still like to see, you know, even 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:53.480 more consistency, and I think on both sides of the 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:57.600 football third down aggressiveness, you know, I think I think 0:13:57.640 --> 0:13:59.800 that there can be they're leaving some things on the 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:04.040 table on third down. Defensively, the posture has been more 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.160 of soft zones, let him make a catch, rally up 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.720 on the football, you know, and you see guys catch 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.640 football on a third and seven, five or six yards 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:14.720 down the field and you have to make a perfect tackle, 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:16.839 you know, to stay out, you know, to get off 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:20.480 the football field. So it's going to be interesting to see. 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.120 With injuries in the in the secondary, it's going to 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.360 be interesting to see what Luna UMA's mindset is going 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:29.680 to be. Do I even play it more soft because 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.520 of these guys? Or am I more aggressive and make 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.600 the quarterback make quicker decisions to help you know, some 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:37.440 guys that haven't had as many snaps in the back 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.600 end as guys that have been back there. So it's 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.040 going to be interest to see which way the pendulum 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.360 swings a little bit. But again, a big help could 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:49.360 be offensively, sustain drives, stay on the field, you know, 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.600 make stay in third and four or less and be 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:57.200 aggressive when it's third and four or less and rack 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.440 up the plays, keep the defense off the field. Now 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:03.240 that you've seen some tape, how did Jackson Carmen do 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:07.760 in his first NFL start? Jackson Carmen belonged, I think, 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.200 is the best way to put it. And I remember 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.640 that's exactly what I was thinking going into my first 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.600 NFL game. I just want my teammates and coaches to think, 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:19.120 this guy he should be there. He belongs, you know, 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:25.040 and not be a fish in the offensive line where 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:27.320 you're getting taking advantage of him. People are picking on you, 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.720 and everybody can't wait to line up against you and 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.840 pass rush against your kind of thing. And now was 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.680 it perfect? Now? I mean, Jackson had a communication issue 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:37.560 that led to a sack in the early stages of 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:39.840 the game, and there were some other things that weren't, 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:43.880 you know, necessarily exactly the way you want him. But overall, 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.280 he definitely showed like he belonged. And you know, I 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:51.360 remember after my first NFL start, Paul Brown came up 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:53.680 to me in my locker and just shocked the heck 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.320 out of me when I looked up and it was 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.560 Paul Brown and he was a young man. I'm proud 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:02.120 of you. The game wasn't too big for you. That's good. 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.960 We thought that might be the case, and you proved 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.400 us right. So I was like, Wow, that was like 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.880 a million bucks. So I think he should feel like 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:14.360 the game wasn't too big for him. He belongs. He's 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.360 right where we should be playing in the National Football League. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.040 He has all the physical abilities to do it, but 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:24.400 just button up all of his assignments. Button everything up mentally. 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.440 You know, no laps is mentally that lead to physical problems. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.960 So here we go Thursday night football in Week four 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.960 of the season against the Jacksonville Jaguars. They're owing three 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.840 this year. They've lost eighteen in a row since winning 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.480 their season opener last year over the Colts. You mentioned 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.880 the offensive line is good, They've got a good running game. 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:46.960 Where are they week? What are the weak spots for Jacksonville? Yeah, 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.480 I mean I think they don't really have a tight 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.320 end threat. You know that, and they're trying to solve it. 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:55.320 They traded for Arnold you know this week now with 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.960 two days how much of a package can they put together, 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:00.200 will even be active for the game? You know, it 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:04.199 makes you wonder a bunch of things there. But you know, 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.880 I think obviously the turnover issue is what's killing him. 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.520 I had a rookie quarterback that's got nine giveaways, seven 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.000 interceptions and lost two fumbles, and their minus eight in 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:16.760 the turnover department dead less than the National Football League 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:20.399 after three games. So it's it's kind of like the 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:22.920 Trevor Lawrence Bakery is open and you can get three 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.960 for one every week. The turnovers. He's selling turnovers three 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.920 for one. But you know, you think I think at 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.960 some point they're going to simplify. You know, I talked 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:36.199 about this before. I remember doing college football Michael Bishop 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.560 when he's in Kansas State, and Bill Snyder said, you know, Dave, 0:17:39.600 --> 0:17:41.480 I've got a guy that is going to be a 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:43.919 good quarterback, but right now he's an athlete more than 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.600 a quarterback. So I give him one read and I say, Michael, 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:50.280 if that's not there, tuck it and run. That's your 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.080 next best option. And then toward the end of the season, 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:54.520 the middle of the season, I should say I had 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.920 him again and I said, is there's still one reading? 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.280 Go for Michael goes. It's too David, you know, you 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:03.080 go one second, read, tuck it, and go. I don't 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:04.560 think you have to go to the backside of the 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.159 field the entire season. I wonder if they're going to 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.879 do something like that, you know, with Trevor Lawrence. And 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:12.679 I'm not saying that to make it elementary, but I'm 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:14.720 saying to take some of the some of the load 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:18.040 off of them and uh and and see what they do. 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:21.880 But uh yeah, I don't think they're really a real 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.320 good outside running team. Their strength of their running game 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.760 is between the tackles. They do a good job with 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.840 inside zone, not really outside zone or stretch inside zone duos. 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:35.160 They will run counter, they will run a draw, you know. 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:41.520 So I think their center and guards or solid, solid players, 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:46.280 you know. Defensively, a linebacker, I think is the is 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.680 the strength of their football team. I think the defensive line, 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:52.199 the offensive line just has to I think, impose their 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:54.800 will in this football game. With that defensive line, I 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.959 think it's good, but I don't think it's like upper crust, 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.639 you know, in the National Football League. So I think 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:04.720 the Bengals need to establish their ground game and be 0:19:04.760 --> 0:19:07.679 more consistent, you know, established in that ground game. The 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:11.160 Bengals right now are one of only five teams. Let 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.199 me make sure that I get this right. I did 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.439 some homework on this, Dan, and I want to make 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:19.560 sure I get it right. The Bengals run the ball 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:22.040 five more times than they've thrown it. They're one of 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.000 four teams that have done that. Denver is even. They've 0:19:25.080 --> 0:19:27.439 run the ball exactly the same as they've thrown it, 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:29.879 and they're three and ozer. So I put them in 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.800 that pack. So there's four teams more and then Denver's even. 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:36.920 Baltimore is plus ten, they're two and one. New Orleans 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:40.760 is plus thirty. They're two and one. Cleveland's plus twenty two. 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.960 They're two and one. The Bengals are plus five. They're 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:48.920 two and one. Three AFC North teams are of the 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.399 five that have at least even steven or run the 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:56.800 ball more. So I think stay in that identity. Don't 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:59.080 make Joe Burrow throw at thirty five forty times in 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:03.399 a game. Pound pound the football, you know, establish yourself 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.560 in that regard. Be physical. I thought their physicality in 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:10.240 the offensive and defensive line in their two wins was 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:13.520 superior and in their loss. It wasn't so how they 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.200 going to come out in this football game Thursday night? 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:18.800 I think it's going to be how did the big 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.640 boys up front? Are they going to be more physical? 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:26.240 Last thing? How big of an advantage is a Thursday 0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:31.560 night home game, big short week and you have to 0:20:31.640 --> 0:20:36.520 travel is very tough. Thursday night game is It's tough. 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:40.000 That to turnaround is very tough, particularly if you were 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:44.040 thirty or more. I remember, you know, but in my 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:45.960 twenties day, I wouldn't even bother me to have to 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:47.840