1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Artnel's starting pitcher, Matthew Liberator is here. Matt great to 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: have you on. Do you feel like a senior member 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: these days in camp? 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I'm a senior member yet. I still 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: feel pretty young. But we definitely got a lot more 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 2: young guys in the clubhouse this year, and fortunately I 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: do have some some big league experience and I've filled 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: a lot of different roles in the Big League so far, 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: so I do feel like I have some knowledge to share. 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: Are they calling you in this clubhouse? 11 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 4: No? No, yeah, that's standing. 12 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: That's standing well compared to the rest of them. I 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: mean you are the unk yeah, starters right, just testin 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: me would be the one. 15 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: Plante is older than me, got a little more service time, 16 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: but yeah, I'm up there in an age, I guess 17 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: this year in the clubhouse, which is weird to say, 18 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: twenty six years. 19 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 3: Old, gosh six. 20 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 5: Do you sit closer at the to the front of 21 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 5: the bus though, Like that's kind of a thing people 22 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 5: don't understand, Like you do sit based on you can 23 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 5: sit based on your service time or you succeed to 24 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 5: the guys who have more service time. Do you sit 25 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 5: closer to the front of the bus. 26 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: I've always been the back of the bus kind of guy, 27 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: but I might might have to change that this year. 28 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: We'll see more to the middle, Yeah, maybe more front. 29 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: Are you either when you're older, either sat in the 30 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: front or the back. 31 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I prefer the back. I like to be able 32 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: to see everybody instead of having my back turn to 33 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: everybody but them. 34 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 3: Obviously you're a little worried about someone walking in bend you. Yeah, 35 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: I like it. I like it. Have they talked to 36 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: you about where you're going to stack up because there's 37 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: rumors of opening day for you. 38 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't had any talks about that yet. You know, 39 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: I think it's partially controllable, largely uncontrollable for me. But 40 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: you know, I think that's every starting pitcher's stream to 41 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: get that nod and for the first pitch of the team, 42 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: first pitch of the season for your team. But right now, 43 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to worry about today and tomorrow. Worry 44 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: about tomorrow. You know who it's against, right, Yeah, I do. 45 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: Does that mean a little bit more? I think maybe 46 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: in twenty three my first start against them after that trade, 47 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: and also Randy was on the team at that point, 48 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: and getting the face him. But you know, I think 49 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 2: now it's just gone out and pitching. 50 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: They played the Rays by the way opening day. You 51 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: know that if Randy didn't maybe record something, that you 52 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: might still be with the Rays and he might still 53 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 3: be the Cardinals. Maybe. 54 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, you ever talked to him about hey, we're traded 55 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 2: for each other. I've never actually spoken to him. I 56 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: would love to, but yeah, we've got to cross paths 57 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: and I haven't gotten the opportunity yet. 58 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: He doesn't. He doesn't walk by and just give you 59 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: like this scarreo as you walk by. No, no yet, 60 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: no yet. 61 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 5: Who's somebody? Who's somebody that sets you up to be 62 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 5: where you are a big league a big league player 63 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 5: that you know has been there since you've been up 64 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 5: and down in the big leagues, or a minor league coach, 65 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 5: somebody that set you up to the point where you're like, Okay, 66 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 5: this guy really was instrumental in helping me become the 67 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 5: starting pitcher that I am today, and not just that 68 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 5: reliever or starter type of guy. 69 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 70 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: I mean I think away from the team, my pitching 71 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: guy that ork with John Heisinger. I've worked with him 72 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: since I was eleven years Old. He's been instrumental in 73 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: my development up until this point. And then you know, 74 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 2: all of our staff here has been really really awesome 75 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: since I've gotten into the starting role and kind of 76 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: helping me fine tune my routine in my process and 77 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: being able to watch guys like Wayo and Lancelaine and 78 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: Kyle Gibson Sonny last year go about their business and 79 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: just take little bits and pieces from what they do 80 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: and add it to what I do. And then even 81 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: when I was in the bullpen, guys like Andrew Kittridge, 82 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: I thought really did a good job of kind of 83 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: taking me under their wing and showing me the ropes 84 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 2: and showing me how the things operate in the bullpen 85 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: and just really helping me develop the mental side of 86 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: the game. 87 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: Hey, Matthew, can you run through some of the changes 88 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: that you made last year pitch mix wise, and do 89 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: you then reevaluate that in the off seasonations with the 90 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: team where you kind of save that until spring training 91 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: you'd be like, all right, what do we like that 92 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: worked and what do we want to change? 93 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Arsenal Wise, I don't think I made any changes 94 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: during the season last year. My stuff was kind of 95 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: my stuff I think we switched usages a little bit, 96 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: just you know, as my first few starts was kind 97 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: of the league seeing where I was at and then 98 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: making an adjustment to me, and then you know, it 99 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: was my turn to make an answer back and make 100 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 2: that adjustment back to the league. And so there are 101 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: some usage things that we kind of discussed throughout the 102 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: season just to put me in a better spot, help 103 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: me get more opportunities to you know, punch guys out 104 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: and set myself up for success. And then this offseason, 105 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: you know, it's out now that I'm working on throwing 106 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 2: a splitter, which would be my seventh pitch, so it's uh, Kevin, Yeah, seven, 107 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: I throw six already. 108 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 3: How's the catch? 109 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 4: Did you run out of buttons? 110 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 5: Yeah? 111 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 2: Actually that that has been an issue. We're going to 112 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: have to figure something out. There's not enough buttons on 113 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: the PitchCom to call them, so I might have to 114 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: have a PitchCom on my glove or on my hip 115 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: so I can call pitches sometimes and I don't have 116 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: to cycle through six or seven shakes in and that bat. 117 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 2: But it's been fun working on it, and honestly, it's 118 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 2: taken some of the stress off of some of the 119 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: other stuff to kind of have a project in the 120 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: works to tinker with, how do you. 121 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: Find seven pitches six pitches? How do you perfect six 122 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: or seven pitches? What are they? First of all, four seam, 123 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 3: two seam, I'm. 124 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 2: Going four team two seam, change up, cutter, slaughter, curveball, 125 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: and now the splitter. I was primarily growing up fastball, 126 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: four team two seam curveball in high school, as the 127 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,119 Speaker 2: curveball is too big to get a lot of swing 128 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: and misses at that level, so I developed the slaughter. 129 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: It's kind of a shorter, harder breaking ball to get 130 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: more swing and miss. And then I've always had the 131 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: change up also, but it's kind of been hit or miss. 132 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 2: Last year that was kind of my off season project, 133 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: was developing a change up that would play at this level, 134 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: and I feel like I did a decent job of that. 135 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 2: And then this year just continuing to try and find 136 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: more swing and miss and have more more offerings and 137 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 2: more weapons to show to both handed hitters. That was 138 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: kind of where the talks four the splitter started to 139 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: come in. And then Sonny actually is the person for 140 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: me to credit with the cutter. We were playing catch 141 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: first time we ever played catch, you saw my slaughter. 142 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: He's like, dude, you spin the ball really really well. 143 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: Do you think He actually suggested maybe a sweeper, which 144 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 2: I threw for a couple of bullpens and then we 145 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 2: kind of banged it. But the cutter kind of came 146 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 2: out of those conversations too, and that was something that helped, 147 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: you know, get right handed hitters off the fastball a 148 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: little bit. 149 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: For me, Matthew, did you watch the prominence of the 150 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: splitter in the postseason last year and how often it 151 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: was being thrown? I don't know how often how much 152 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: postseason ball you watched, but I mean I got talked 153 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: about it. I feel like more than it had been 154 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: in a long time. 155 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: Could you repeat the beginning part of that question. 156 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, just wondering if you, Yeah, if you watch the 157 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: splitter in the postseason, you know, teams like of course, 158 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, Dodgers, Mariners, et cetera, had guys just chucking 159 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: great splitters. So wondering if you watch that and if 160 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: that had any impact too, and just overall years off 161 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: on how the splitter is kind of becoming a huge 162 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: thing again in the league. 163 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely part of the reason those conversations started happened. 164 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 2: You know, obviously Almamoto's got a great splitter, but he's 165 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: a little shorter and from a much lower ap proach angle. 166 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: So the guy that kind of spurred the decision to 167 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: start working on it was watching Trey Savage a splitter 168 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: and he's, you know, super steep approach angle, and I'm 169 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: not quite that steep, but I do have a relatively 170 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: steep approach angle. And we figured if if that was 171 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: a pitch that I could feel comfortable with, it could 172 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: play really well for me. 173 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: Now, when you talked about the PitchCom and not having 174 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: enough buttons, but then you said you want to put 175 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: a PitchCom on you. So if I'm a hitter and 176 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: I see you go to the pitchcomb like, oh he's 177 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: going split. 178 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: Here, well it won't just be for splitter. That was 179 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: the first thing that I said. I was like, if 180 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to put one on, I got to call 181 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: enough of my own pitches that guys can't just say, 182 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: oh when he does this, it's a breaking ball or 183 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: it's a splitter every time. So I think part of 184 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: the reason we'd use the PitchCom is more to prevent 185 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: me having to shake, you know, four to six or 186 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: seven times to cycle through you shake. 187 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 3: Thisten as a catcher. If you shake me seven times 188 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 3: and then you gave up a hit, we probably would 189 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: have action. Yeah, there would be some words exchange, like 190 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: you shook me seven times? 191 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And if you did that to YACHTI I 192 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: probably wouldn't check one. 193 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: Of course, not of course, not last thing before we 194 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: let you go. You've been around here with the Cardinals 195 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: for a long time. You've been through some good teams, 196 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 3: and now you're kind of on the rebuild. 197 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 4: What are you looking. 198 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: Forward to this year? As you know, everyone's saying, oh, 199 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: we're young, we're going to be this different team than 200 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: what we've been in the past. As kind of a 201 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: veteran leader on this team, what are you looking at 202 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 3: as a successful year for the Cardinals. 203 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: I think what's really exciting about this time period in 204 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: Cardinals history right now is, you know, we really kind 205 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: of have the chance to rewrite what this looks like 206 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: for the next ten years, fifteen years moving forward. And 207 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: you know, this is the first time that we don't 208 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 2: have solidified a Hall of Fame veteran type players in 209 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: our clubhouse. And you know, I think that's that's exciting 210 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: because it opens the door to a lot of different 211 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: ideas and different methodologies, and you know, I think it's 212 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: very cool that we get to kind of dictate how 213 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: this is going to go for ourselves over the next 214 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: five to ten years. And I think that that's a 215 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: really exciting place to build from. 216 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: Matthew, thanks for joining us. You have a bullpend to 217 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 3: run and get to, so good luck and work on 218 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: that split. 219 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely. Thank you, guys. 220 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 3: Thank you here with Michael McGreevy major major league debut. 221 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: Not that long ago, we were just talking about. Yeah, 222 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: you were making fun of me because I said I 223 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: made my debut before you were born, and you're like, god, 224 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: how old are you? 225 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 4: Twenty five years old? 226 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 3: Oh, I mean I'm double. That makes you feel any better. 227 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 6: I mean I'm feeling old in this clubhouse. That makes 228 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 6: me feel young, So I appreciate that. Who's the oldest 229 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 6: guy you have, Stanic? I think, oh, yeah, I'm not 230 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 6: even sure how old he might be thirty five. 231 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 3: I looked at your I looked around and on the 232 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: pitching staff, it's definitely standing player wise, it's ramone the earliest. 233 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not. 234 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 4: Even sure how old Ramone is. I mean you just 235 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 4: got here. 236 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in there, take a picture. 237 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I sit down and have breakfast with him. 238 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 3: What uh? What are you looking forward to? This year's 239 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: gonna be in the rotation more than likely. 240 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, more than likely. Crazier things have happened. 241 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: Although although Dusty was in there with a clipboard, yeah, 242 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 3: we were all hiding. 243 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 4: Scared the heck out of me. 244 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 6: In the weight room, He's like all making cuts today. 245 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 6: I was like kind of pause for a moment, like me, 246 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,359 Speaker 6: like I thought, I'm pitching a Sarasota on Friday. 247 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 4: And he's no, no, not you, not yet. I'm like, 248 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 4: oh geez. 249 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 6: And so yeah, I mean I'm excited for this year. 250 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 6: We got a lot of young guys, like you said, 251 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 6: in the rotation, even in the clubhouse. So just creating 252 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 6: that new foundation playing with all these young guys. I 253 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 6: think in this rebuild, seeing all the guys are gonna 254 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 6: make their major league debuts this year, I feel like 255 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 6: it's gonna be a lot of guys, a lot of 256 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 6: good guys in the farm system. Anyone can make an 257 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 6: impact on this team. So it's really anybody's ball game 258 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 6: in this clubhouse. 259 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 5: Do you guys talk about that. Do you guys talk 260 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 5: about that like there's no help from the outside, It's 261 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 5: gonna be us young guys. Or is it something that 262 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 5: you're just like, I got to take care of my 263 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 5: business and let everything else happen. 264 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 6: You know, like the major League Baseball season it's so long, 265 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 6: and especially in the minor leagues, it's such a grind 266 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 6: that you do have to have that I got to 267 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 6: take care of my own business first. It's kind of 268 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 6: a selfish way to think about it in the minor leagues. 269 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 6: But in this clubhouse, there's been no talks of hey, 270 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 6: just every man for himself. It's hey, like what kind 271 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 6: of what kind of culture can we create here? What 272 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 6: kind of foundation can we create here? We want everybody 273 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 6: pull on the same side of the rope. So a 274 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 6: lot of young guys with maybe not the most amount 275 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 6: of experience in the big leagues, but I think collectively 276 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 6: we're all in the same point of our career. 277 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 4: Is that if we're all pulling the same direction, that 278 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 4: this rebuild is gonna be very quick. 279 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 5: All right, well this is quick into the interview. But 280 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 5: you said culture and foundation, and everyone's like, oh, the 281 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 5: cardinal way you've been in the minor league system for 282 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 5: a little bit, not you haven't been grind in the 283 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 5: minor leagues. That looked like something crazy. But how much 284 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 5: how much different has the last year been? Now that 285 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 5: we hear that hein Blooms hiring a few more coaches 286 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 5: because you've been up and down from the big leagues 287 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 5: the last two years. Have you seen a difference or 288 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 5: have you heard guys talk about what the difference is. 289 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 6: I think it's more of the just the way that 290 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 6: things have ben There's a lot of turnover in this organization, 291 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 6: with most stepping down him taking over. 292 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: All these upgrades, these new facilities. 293 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 6: Here in Palm Beach are huge kind of editions of coaches, strength, coaches, 294 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 6: trainers in the minor league system. So when you can 295 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 6: go up, you are you have everything you need to 296 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 6: have a short stint in the minor league, so when 297 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 6: you get to the big leagues, you're ready to perform. 298 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 6: And so that's like, I think that's the cardinal way 299 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 6: right now, is that Hey, like we're gonna be We're 300 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 6: gonna go back to being one of the best farm 301 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 6: systems in baseball. I think we're ranked number two. I 302 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 6: think right now, and like that's how it should be. 303 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 6: There's plenty of talent throughout the organization, all the way 304 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 6: down from low end the guys we just drafted, like 305 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:56,239 Speaker 6: Liam Doyle. 306 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 4: And and upwards into Triple A. 307 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 6: That this team is going to be good for years 308 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 6: to come, and it starts in the minor leagues and 309 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 6: we've done a really good job of kind of like 310 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 6: recreating that farm system. 311 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 3: How much do you pay attention to that who's drafted 312 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 3: and you're still young? Yeah, you weren't drafted that long? No, 313 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: I really was you pay attention to Yeah, oh we 314 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 3: drafted a picture, he might take my spot. 315 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 6: Well, I mean there's always that, Like we're all human. 316 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 6: I think we all have just that short second of like, oh, 317 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 6: like we drafted like Cooper Jerpy crap, here we go. 318 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 3: Who's that? 319 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 6: He's another one of our first rounds in state. Yeah, 320 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 6: just left eat back in twenty twenty two. Drafted Liam 321 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 6: Doyle this year, And you know, as after I got 322 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 6: drafted in the first round, I reached out to Jerpy, 323 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 6: reach out to Chase Davis. Will we drafted in the 324 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 6: first reach out to Liam Doyle. This year's like, hey man, 325 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 6: we're super excited to have you in the organization. You're 326 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 6: gonna love it, and trying to step into that leadership role. 327 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 6: Being the quote unquote old guy so far in this club, 328 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 6: as being twenty five, you want to feel like these 329 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 6: new guys are welcome and just know like, hey, like 330 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 6: we're gonna need you in a couple of years. 331 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 5: Is that something that you do on your own or 332 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 5: does the ORG tap you on the shoulder and go, hey, 333 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 5: we see you as part of the future. Can you 334 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 5: reach out to these guys. 335 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 6: I mean it's something I did on my own. I'm 336 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 6: sure the ORG is not unhappy that I did it. 337 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 6: When we traded away Sonny and Wilson and we got 338 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 6: Richard Fitz, Hunter Dobbins, Dustin May. I got their numbers 339 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 6: from a couple of our trainers, just reached out to them, 340 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 6: say hey, man, like, excited to have you, like, congrats 341 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 6: on signing. My name is Michael McGreevy. Just if here's 342 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 6: my number. If you need anything any questions, just text me. 343 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 6: And just want to make everybody feel real comfortable. So 344 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 6: there's no like awkward first, there's two first or second 345 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 6: weeks of spring and we can just hit the ground running. 346 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 5: That's super mature of you, because like it's a cutthroat business. 347 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 5: But with that cutthroat business, like you got to create 348 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 5: that you got to create that culture that you want 349 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 5: to play in for the next six years or ten years, 350 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 5: however long you play with the Cardinals. 351 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: But do you have a. 352 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 5: Little bit of are you a little like, ah, dang 353 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 5: it when you lose a sunny Gray, when you trade 354 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 5: away a Wilson Contreres, when you trade away pieces to 355 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 5: your organization, your team, that you're like, I want to win. Obviously, 356 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 5: I want to make a ton of money in the 357 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 5: big leagues, but I want to win. 358 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 6: Also, yeah, I was. I'm sad we got to we 359 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 6: traded Sonny. It was the right thing to do. The 360 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 6: other I'm super sad that we lost on because he 361 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 6: had all the tea times everywhere on the road. But 362 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 6: it's the necessary steps that we needed to take to 363 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 6: not just be on that cut of like, well, like 364 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 6: we're about five hundred, we might sneak into the wild cars, 365 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 6: Like that's just not good enough for this organization or 366 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 6: in this fan base. We want to make sure we're 367 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 6: winning division after division, getting into that playoffs, making a 368 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 6: deep run of the playoffs in the World Series, and 369 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 6: that just doesn't happen with a few band aid pieces 370 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 6: here and there, signing a few guys that might make 371 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 6: a difference, and they did. They certainly had great times here, 372 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 6: but it's creating that stronger foundation to really build what's 373 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 6: good for the future. And it was necessary steps, but 374 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 6: it did suck seeing him go, especially players of that caliber. 375 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 5: Did you take Sunny's money playing golf or because you 376 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 5: said he made all the tea times or does he 377 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 5: take your money? 378 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 4: Uh? 379 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 6: We played twice this year, once in Saint Louis where 380 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 6: I beat him. No money was on the table, and 381 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 6: then we went to Whistling Straights and Milwaukee, and I 382 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 6: think he probably got me by a couple of strokes. 383 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: Just he's a good course manager. I'm more of I'm 384 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: just gonna let it fly. 385 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 6: And you know, you drive for show, putt for doe, 386 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 6: and I just didn't put it all that day. 387 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: What's the best place he took you Whistling Straights, He 388 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 3: only took you two places? 389 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: Well, we I went on my own. 390 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 6: We just we played just in Saint Louis and stuff. 391 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 6: But I was I was up and down all year. 392 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 6: So anytime I came up play against the Mets, we 393 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 6: win and say, all right, Mike, see you later. I 394 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 6: can't golf with him, so I didn't really get into it. 395 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 6: Towards the end of the year and we were playing 396 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 6: at San Francisco and he's like, hey, you want to golf. 397 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 6: I'm like, ah, like I pitched tomorrow. And he's like, oh, yeah, 398 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 6: but you golf left you. You're like, swing, You're rotating 399 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 6: the other way. It'll be good for you. I'm like, 400 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 6: maybe if I was on You're thirteen, I do that, 401 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 6: but I'm not even a full year in just yet, 402 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 6: so let's just wait on that. 403 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, what I wouldn't need to hear the story about 404 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: your debut. I was told you have a debut story 405 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 3: that we need to hear about. 406 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 407 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 6: So it was right at the trade deadline of twenty 408 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 6: twenty four and Bja, our manager in Triple A, calls me. 409 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 6: They were pushing me back at day already and I 410 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 6: was like, oh my gosh, they're gonna dangle me in 411 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 6: front of other teams. 412 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get traded. 413 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 6: Like no crap, here we go get the call, Hey, 414 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 6: you going the big leagues, And so I fly to 415 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 6: Saint Louis from Durham get in the day before. Hey, 416 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 6: can I go to the field play catch? Like you know, 417 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 6: I watched the game. They're like, no, you're not on 418 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 6: the roster just yet. So I have to stay in 419 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 6: the hotel right next to the field at Bush. So 420 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 6: I go down to the bar. I'm sitting at the 421 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 6: bar eating a steak and I'm watching Lance Lynne pitch 422 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 6: against the Rangers. 423 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 4: And that's how I'm getting my scattering. 424 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 6: Report because I know nothing about the defending World Series 425 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 6: champions Texas Rangers. 426 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 4: You know any of the players, none of the players. 427 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 4: And I was like, well, I mean I knew I 428 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 4: knew of or I do know of them. 429 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 6: Like, okay, what do they struggle at? All I know 430 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 6: is Corey Seeger hits absolute nukes and he swings at 431 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 6: the first pitch every time. 432 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 4: Every time, and that's what he did all days. One 433 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: of the first pitch and he almost took me deep. 434 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 4: But thank god, but. 435 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 3: Did you win that game? I did, So do you 436 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: now do that every time? I mean, I wish now 437 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 3: you go deep. See that's the problem exactly. 438 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's just sit at the bar to 439 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 6: night before I mean that's a bad look though. I 440 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 6: mean in the big he's got camera phones now people 441 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 6: are all over the place. Oh, Mike McGreevey sitting at 442 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 6: the bar before a game. This isn't good look for 443 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 6: the Cardinals. Not the good foundation when trying to create 444 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 6: you win if we win. 445 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, no you can. 446 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 5: No, it's not sitting at the bar. You can just 447 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 5: prop up next to a TV in the clubhouse and 448 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 5: have a steak. How how hard is that to have 449 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 5: a routine that like that worked out and you're like 450 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 5: man like because a lot of people don't understand. You 451 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 5: might not be superstitious, but if you ate a steak 452 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 5: before you went out and dealt you're like, You're like, 453 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 5: I'm gonna have a steak again. I know I'm so 454 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 5: step chicken, but I feel like I'm gonna have a 455 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 5: How hard is that to get away from that superstition 456 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 5: slash routine. 457 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, you definitely. It's too long of a season too. 458 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 6: You're just gonna exhaust yourself. If you were like, oh, 459 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 6: I need to I need to do this, I do this, 460 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 6: I do this, and then if you add something in 461 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 6: by accident and you have another good day, then you 462 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 6: just have to add another thing into the routine. All 463 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 6: of a sudden, the routine lasts four hours before game time. 464 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 6: Come that first pitch, you're like, oh my god, I'm. 465 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 4: Exhausted, honey. 466 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, for his routine like noon for seven o'clock game, 467 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: Sonny's a different cat. 468 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 4: And you know that. 469 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: So I mean because Sonny was like I remember, Sonny 470 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 3: would start like Sonny's starting and if there was like 471 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: a drop of rain, and he's like, oh, I started 472 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 3: my routine. What do I do now? Yeah? 473 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 6: Seriously, Yeah, you try to pick and choose what works 474 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 6: for Sonny that works for you. Try not to do 475 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 6: everything he does. But I'd get to the field when 476 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 6: clubhouse opens and all of a sudden there was Sonny 477 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 6: too doing his routine five hours before the game. 478 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'd be exhausted by then. 479 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 3: You're young. 480 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 5: What is the what do you need to to have? 481 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 5: What at the end of this season you have said, 482 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 5: I did this to make my season successful, Because yes, 483 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 5: you were up and down and being called up and 484 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 5: down a lot of the time. That's not on you, 485 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 5: like the oreg is. You know, you have options all 486 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 5: that stuff, But what is the thing that you need 487 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 5: to improve on or that you worked on so that 488 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 5: you have as successful as a season as you want. 489 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, every year, I'm always going into it. 490 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 6: I want to make every start, and no matter if 491 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 6: that was in Triple A and the big leagues last year, 492 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 6: being a starter and going deep into games, that's kind 493 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 6: of my mo. 494 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 4: That's how I play the game. 495 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 6: If I make every start and I'm upwards close to 496 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 6: two hundred dnings, that's what I want to do. That's 497 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 6: what I need to do. I need to get my 498 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 6: body in the right shape to do that. Because that 499 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 6: last game in Wrigley Field last year, game thirty two, 500 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 6: for me it I was just exhausted, and when Allie 501 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 6: took the ball from my hands, I could not throw 502 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 6: another pitch And it was eye opening. I mean that 503 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 6: thirty two games instead of the twenty eight in the 504 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 6: minor leagues, with that certified off day Monday, it was 505 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 6: a huge wake up call. 506 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 4: Need to get the body no shade. 507 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 6: That five five day rotation is huge, and so if 508 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 6: I can make every start and not have that crash 509 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 6: and burn like I did at the end and finished 510 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 6: strong going into October, I think it'll be huge for 511 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 6: the team's success. 512 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 4: And mine two would be pretty solid. 513 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 6: That would be nice. I'd like that a lot. I'm 514 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 6: getting I'm getting closed. I think max right now is 515 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 6: like one seventy five, so we're we're just sneaking up 516 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 6: on it. 517 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: I'm getting two hundred. I don't care if I make 518 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 3: every start. I'm getting two hundred. 519 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 520 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 6: I think that you need one full year of service 521 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 6: time before you can tell them to do things for you. 522 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you get off that's true. 523 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 3: If you get off to a good start, then you 524 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 3: can tell them whatever you want. 525 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 526 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 6: If I have a stake before, and you know, scout 527 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 6: the team at the bar have great days like that, 528 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 6: I might be able to then if. 529 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 3: You're miss, If you're miss in Milwaukee, five starts to 530 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 3: make the All Star team, he tells. 531 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 4: Them what he wants exactly five. 532 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: All right, Michael, thank you very much, by the way, 533 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 3: best team in the in the Big West. You see 534 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 3: Santa barb okay all day long. Wait, who's in that 535 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 3: Fullerton fullertin Irvine Long Beach? David got Bakersfield, Hawaii. You 536 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 3: see San Diego season said the right, Yeah, except for Hawaii. Yeah, yeah, 537 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: Hawaii is always fun trip. I've been all right, Well, Michael, 538 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: thank you good luck this year, and I hope you 539 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 3: do get to two hundred. 540 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that'd be nice. 541 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: Hey, what do you got for us, dude? Give us 542 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: something good, one good story so far at camp, or 543 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: one player that stands out, give us something that that 544 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: nobody else knows. 545 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 7: I think the energy has just been great. I mean, honestly, 546 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 7: the guys have been out here just putting in the 547 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 7: work every day. And you know, obviously it's a different 548 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 7: look team for us here in saying lois this here, 549 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 7: But the guys are really jelling and then just doing 550 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 7: the things that need to do every day. But I think, 551 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 7: you know, Mason Win's been great out there, Birley's been 552 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 7: great just leaving the guys as well. So it's gonna 553 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 7: be fun to see who emerges as a leader here 554 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 7: and just to see these guys take the next time. 555 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 3: You never talk like this ever as a player. Now, No, 556 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 3: it was a player, not as a coach. Now you're 557 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 3: like coach speak. 558 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 8: I talked like the second player. 559 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 3: No you did not, man, you did not talk like this. 560 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 3: You're like, no, you gotta get the boot down, come 561 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 3: on yelling it not. Oh yes, everyone's the value the 562 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 3: lives are high here at Cardinals camp. 563 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 8: They have been high. They've been great. 564 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: Well, it's very different. I mean a lot of the 565 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: vets from last year were traded away, So what happens 566 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: when that happens. 567 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, Like, you know, it's a young group out there, 568 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 7: So the fun thing for me is to see who 569 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 7: steps up and and who takes over that leadership role 570 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 7: and the who the guys gravitated to. And they've been 571 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 7: doing a really good job of that and it's been 572 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 7: fun to watch so far. 573 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: A J did you really just also want to make 574 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: fun of us? You're not not winning the championship game. 575 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 3: We weren't even gonna go. We're we're gonna save that 576 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: for the end. We don't want John to get up 577 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 3: in the middle of this interview and walk out, so 578 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: we're gonna get there first. Crowds I think has a 579 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: question before we go there. 580 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 5: A baseball question, because yeah, an actual baseball question and 581 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 5: not make fun of you, like a. 582 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 8: What is. 583 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 5: How much how much is it going to change your 584 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 5: base running that you know you have young guys yet, 585 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 5: not that you had fossils that didn't move or at all, 586 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 5: but like, do you have to change the aggressiveness in 587 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 5: the sense that like these dudes are able to take chances. Like, 588 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 5: I get it. Everybody wants to win in the big leagues, 589 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 5: but sometimes when you take chances running the basis, you 590 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 5: have to learn where too far is. 591 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think some of these guys that are playing 592 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 7: this year that they kind of did that last year, right. 593 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 7: I mean, you saw Vic have a great year on 594 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 7: the basis last year, and I expect him to continue 595 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 7: to get better with that. Right, We're going over just 596 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 7: different tips and tells and just you know, where the 597 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,239 Speaker 7: games evolved with all that. 598 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 8: So I think this is a team that's going to 599 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 8: push on the bases. 600 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 7: We're gonna you know, we're harping all the little things 601 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 7: that you know, kind of the fundamentals of the game, 602 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 7: and we're gonna have to do a lot of things 603 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 7: right for us to win games. So we're harping on 604 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 7: all those little things. Not right now on camp I think. 605 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: I have a good quality control question here, abs challenge system. 606 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: How do you control the quality of tapping the helmet 607 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: for hitters who don't quite have it as well as 608 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: some other hitters to you, and you don't want them 609 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: to waste it early on in a game and then 610 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: not have it in a tight spot for a big hitter. 611 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's something that we've kind of been like monitoring 612 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 7: and just kind of seeing, you know, we know who 613 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 7: knows the strikes on pretty well or whatnot. But I 614 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 7: think it's going to be interesting in general, right like 615 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 7: how team strategize with abs and how to use and 616 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 7: do you do it early, do you do it late 617 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 7: or whennot. So I think that's something that during the 618 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 7: season it's going to be fun to kind of see 619 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 7: what different teams are doing and we'll kind of see 620 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 7: like where the trends are with that. But it's something 621 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 7: that interrant training. It's it's been kind of fun to 622 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 7: watch and it's it's kind of exciting the dugout and 623 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 7: for the fans. So it's definitely gonna be something that's 624 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 7: a different element of the game. 625 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 3: Now for sure, do you tell pictures not to tap 626 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 3: their head because the one the other one for the 627 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 3: you see the one for the Yankees O day, it 628 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 3: was like three inches outside the pictures out for ANANDO 629 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 3: crew and the catcher's. 630 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 8: Like, no, no, no, please, don't don't. 631 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 7: And I think I think that's like I said, it's 632 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 7: gonna be interesting to see when you know, when do 633 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 7: you do when do you not? I mean end of 634 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 7: the game, the game finishes on a strike three. I 635 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 7: think you should just do it no matter what, right 636 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 7: when you have them. But I think it's going to 637 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 7: be interesting to see, both on the pitching side and 638 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 7: on the offensive side of like how can we take 639 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 7: advantage of the system and how are going to work. 640 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 7: It's similar to the you know, when they implemented the 641 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 7: new rules on the basis a couple of years ago, 642 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 7: and then we've seen teams kind of like strategize on 643 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 7: that now. So it's going to be just a new 644 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 7: rule that you know, teams are going to learn how 645 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 7: to take advantage of. 646 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 3: All right, let's get to it. Have you recovered from 647 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 3: the football game yet? 648 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 8: Yeah? I recovered where you did you go to. 649 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: The Indiana ass whooping of Miami? 650 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 8: Of course? 651 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 3: I went, okay, what about baseball this weekend? 652 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 8: I was there Friday night. That was not fun. Yeah. 653 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 7: I drove two and a half hours down, took my 654 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 7: family to the game, and it wasn't a fun. 655 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: Way they have John Houckman's not John Jay Field. 656 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 7: It's not man, that's a good question. I think you 657 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 7: got to donate about ten minute dollars for that when 658 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 7: to happen. 659 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 3: But I mean, you know all he got an extension. 660 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 3: Descalso got an extension where John Jay extension. 661 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 8: John jayme's doing great? Right wars ever? 662 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 3: Oh wow? I mean, Scott, what do you? 663 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 8: I mean? 664 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 3: You guys got to stick together. I just sent a 665 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 3: stat to John that since two thousand and nine, forty 666 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 3: four and fourteen, Florida is against Miami and baseball, Miami 667 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 3: used to be good in baseball. What happened? 668 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 7: I mean, it was still pretty good. We went to 669 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 7: the Super Regional last year. You know that that kind 670 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 7: good enough in Miami. We'll see, We'll see what happens 671 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 7: in June. We'll see what happens in June. We'll see 672 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 7: who's in Omaha this year. It's not how you start. 673 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: You got to ask him a question back and ask 674 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: him how U A B is. Do you know who's 675 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: playing for U A B. 676 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 3: I don't my son, and guess who beat Florida. U 677 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 3: A B in Miami couldn't be So I means U 678 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 3: A B is better than Miami and baseball doesn't. It 679 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 3: isn't that how fans. 680 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 4: Look at that. 681 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I don't know how too much about this 682 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 7: AJ math that we got going on here. 683 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 3: It's like girl math. It works. You just you justify 684 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: things however you want. You know, it's a new it's 685 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 3: a new slogan. Are you really teaching base running? 686 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 8: Yes? 687 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 3: Wow, we were slow though. 688 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 8: You have to have instincts out there, you know, and 689 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 8: work on some things now. But we do. Honestly. Our 690 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 8: staff's great where we you know, we collaborate on everything. 691 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 3: I saw the scales out there. We're going to getting 692 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 3: picked off. 693 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, we were implementing some new things out 694 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 7: there and we're working on That's what trainings for. 695 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: I have one more serious baseball question on the base 696 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: running front. Did you see what Juan Soto and Josh 697 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: Naylor did on the last year and can you use 698 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: that as legit material to show a lot of your 699 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: guys how much there is to base running beyond just 700 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: how freaking fast you are, because Naylor and Soto are 701 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: not beating. Yeah they're not. I mean Nayler's kind of slow. 702 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: SODA's not slow, but he's not fast. So it's impressive 703 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: to see that and do other teams like yours use 704 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: that when you're talking to players about how you don't 705 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: have to be you know, a ninety five percentile speed guy, 706 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: sprint speed guy, and the biggs to be a really 707 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: good base runner. 708 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, we've used those guys as example. 709 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 7: And you know, someone that played here for a long 710 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 7: time as well, Paul Goldtchmith, did a good job of 711 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 7: seeing basses as well. 712 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 8: Just paying attention to the game. 713 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 7: You know, if you watch the game and you see 714 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 7: what the pitchers are doing, what tendencies to have. So 715 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 7: that's something that we always look to take advantage of. 716 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 7: And those are guys that we have used as examples 717 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 7: here in our club. Also the guys around the legs 718 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 7: that are that are taking advantage of the situations out there, 719 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 7: and that's something that we can all get better on. 720 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 8: For sure. You're the man. 721 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: Good to see you. I'll see you soon, hopefully. 722 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 8: You guys. 723 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: One of my favorite with my favorite one of my 724 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 3: favorite X teammates. 725 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 8: Well he didn't had about many people, so yeah he doesn't. 726 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: And you get random shoutouts as you know. So sometimes 727 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: I'll get a. 728 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 3: Text He'll be like, did you guys shout me out today? 729 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: I'll be like, yeah, AJ just randomly brought you up, 730 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: so the famous, world famous John Jay with us. 731 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 8: Good to see you, but. 732 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: No, I love it. 733 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: Let it flow.