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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host Mark Kenyan. In this episode number three nine

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Speaker 1: and today in the show, we are tackling just about

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Speaker 1: the most depressing topic in the deer hunting world, but

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Speaker 1: one that we all will likely face at one point

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Speaker 1: or another, and that's missing a buck and figuring out

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Speaker 1: what to do next. That's what happened to me last week. Actually,

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Speaker 1: real quick, before we start today's episode, I gotta give

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Speaker 1: you a quick heads up. Season two of the Back forty,

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Speaker 1: the show I host that season, has launched. It is

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Speaker 1: now up on the meat Eater YouTube channel, and the

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Speaker 1: second episode of season two just dropped a few days ago,

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Speaker 1: so you gotta head on over to the meat Eater

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel and go give it a watch. The first

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Speaker 1: episode showcases some of the work we did earlier this spring.

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Speaker 1: Our progress are bees check in with Steve, Rinella and

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Speaker 1: UH and a look at how everything has been coming

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Speaker 1: together into the early summer. Episode two, I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: Doug Durren and dan Ja Joe, a guy who you're

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Speaker 1: gonna hear from here on today's podcast. Soon we're planting trees,

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Speaker 1: planting food plots, and making some real serious progress this

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Speaker 1: summer on the property, which led to a lot of

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Speaker 1: good things for us this year. Check it on out.

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Speaker 1: It's at the Media to YouTube channel. I'm very proud

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Speaker 1: of it. I hope you guys enjoy it. Please give

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Speaker 1: it a watch, give us a thumbs up, give us

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Speaker 1: a comment. It would be in the world. And now

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Speaker 1: today's podcast. All right, welcome to the Wired un podcast,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by on Next. Today, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: something that none of us really want to have to

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Speaker 1: talk about, but we do. It gets swept under the

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Speaker 1: rugs sometimes in the hunting world, and if you're out

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Speaker 1: there as a hunter and you're having experiences like this,

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Speaker 1: you might feel like, oh, I'm the only guy in

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Speaker 1: the world who's ever missed a deer, or you're gonna

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Speaker 1: feel really bad about yourself because this thing happened, and

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Speaker 1: you feel like you're on an island. And when you

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Speaker 1: watch TV shows, everyone seems to be perfect, and they

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Speaker 1: seem to be killing big bucks left and right, and

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Speaker 1: they do it so well, and you might be thinking, man,

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Speaker 1: why can't I do that. Well, I'm here to tell

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Speaker 1: you that we've all been there. It happens, and it

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Speaker 1: happens to those guys that look really guys and girls

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Speaker 1: that look really good on TV two. They might not

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Speaker 1: to talk about missing a deer and what do you

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Speaker 1: do next? Because I missed a deer here just recently.

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Speaker 1: I've had kind of a devastating week. Uh So I

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Speaker 1: what's happened. And also I'm here with another guy who

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Speaker 1: through all that right now, and so we want to

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Speaker 1: talk about that experience too. Were gonna work through the stories.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna work through what we think we did right,

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Speaker 1: what we maybe did wrong, what we can learn from it,

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Speaker 1: different ideas for how all of us can kind of

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Speaker 1: next shot. So with me, I got four and a

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Speaker 1: half people to my left. The half person just gave

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Speaker 1: me the eye to my left. You know, Dan, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get this wrong. I don't know how to pronounce

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Speaker 1: your last name properly. Welcome, Welcome to my world. To

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Speaker 1: my left is Dane Asdo Okay, that's what I thought.

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Speaker 1: Danasavedo one the hunt on the back forty So congratulations,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for having me here. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: been maybe different than you expected because number one, because

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Speaker 1: So Dana Gledger here, has been a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: been awesome. So Dane's to my left. To his left

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on again. Yeah, and so for

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the back forty. How about that? UM,

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Speaker 1: And then also Dan, as I mentioned, is back out

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Speaker 1: So this season has been like a huge, huge step

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Speaker 1: so walk me through that that Archer encounter. What happened there?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yea, welcome, So sorry you woke up at

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Speaker 1: to make sure that they're practicing, that they're competent, etcetera.

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00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,880
Speaker 1: But then there's two other kinds of misses that tend

427
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: to happen for people that are competent with their equipment

428
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 1: and with the process, but still happen. And one of

429
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,399
Speaker 1: those is, um, just like target panic buck fever. You

430
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 1: just like your nerves got ahold of you and you,

431
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 1: you know, just you lost track of your process. And

432
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: the third one is what I think you described justin,

433
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: which is forcing a shot situation where you feel like

434
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: I gotta take the shot. We worked so hard for

435
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: this stuff all year, right. We put in a lot

436
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 1: of time, a lot of time in season, a lot

437
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,879
Speaker 1: of team time offseason, put an energy, We sacrifice, we

438
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: take vacation days, or we don't spend time with our

439
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: families or friends, or we wake up at three am,

440
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and all that builds up, builds up,

441
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: builds up, and you've got this like, wait, you're this

442
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: thing in your chest that feels like I'm supposed to

443
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: get this thing done. It's finally here. Oh my gotta

444
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: have to I gotta do it right now. And bam,

445
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: you force something that you shouldn't have. And let me

446
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: tell you what I can relate to that. I had

447
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: a situation I've had. I hate that. I can name

448
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 1: several situations like this. But there's a buck that a

449
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: lot of you guys heard me talk about back in

450
00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,239
Speaker 1: two thousand and fourteen, the biggest buck I've ever been

451
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: able to hunt at that time, great big buck down Ohio,

452
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: and I've been hunting him for two years and finally

453
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: it's like October sixteenth. Actually, I made like a kind

454
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: of impromptu move, drove four and a half hours down

455
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: to this property because I thought he'd be moving with

456
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: this weather front came through and took a diving close

457
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: to his bedding area. And the second day I made

458
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: a move in there and bam, out of know where

459
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: he's there. I turned around, he's right there, yards or

460
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 1: something like that. But walking quickly across this opening, and

461
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: I remember thinking this exact same thing you to justin.

462
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: I said, I have to get the shot. He's about

463
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: to walk out of my life and and I spun

464
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 1: around and I'm trying to get the camera on him,

465
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to draw back, and he's about to

466
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: walk behind the bushes, and I gotta shoot now, and

467
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: I just did it, and I didn't slow down, I

468
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: didn't focus on my process. I forced the shot, hit

469
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: back and low, and didn't find him for a couple

470
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: of months, didn't find him till the winter. And that's

471
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: one that has q with man for a long time.

472
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: So the question when that kind of thing happens is

473
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: is what do you do? The question after any of

474
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: these is what do you do next? How do you

475
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: handle that? What do you learn from it? So coming

476
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: out of that one, it was trying to find ways

477
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: to like get my mind back to process. So something

478
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: coming out of that hunt I remember was trying to

479
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: develop a mantra of sorts. This is a common thing

480
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: A lot of people talk about a way to use

481
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,239
Speaker 1: verbal cues to pull you back into control. So, you know,

482
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: at that point, I'm remember what I was saying back then.

483
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: I think it was, um, I honestly can't think of

484
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: what it was, but it's some kind of verbal thing.

485
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: It was something just like slow it down and slow

486
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: it down and slow it down. Just something that can

487
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 1: break you out of the trance, because there's this kind

488
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: of shot trance that we get into when he's coming

489
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: in and he's like, Oh, I gotta go. If you

490
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: can somehow snap it, I've found if you can break

491
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: yourself out of it's kind of like there's this invisible barrier.

492
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: You know those movies, and they show like a force

493
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: field around something, and it's a force field you can

494
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: kind of push up against, like a bubble. But if

495
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 1: you can finally burst through that bubble and explodes, you

496
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: can get through. When you are trying to get a

497
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: shot at a deer with a gun or a bow,

498
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: you're stuck in this crazy bubble of intensity and this

499
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: moments insane and you're you're in this blackout bubble. If

500
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: you can somehow find something they can push you through

501
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: and pop it all of a sudden, sanity can take

502
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: control again. The mantra is one way to do that.

503
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: I've worked on several other things have helped me, but

504
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: usually it's some kind of verbal cue, a checklist, something

505
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: that can snap you. If you can get two step

506
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: one and actually think about in your head, it's a

507
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: whole hell of a lot easier to get to step two.

508
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 1: And if you can literally say the words okay, splash

509
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: it out, get on the target, okay, watch to keep

510
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: it okay, which is so for me like my process

511
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: right now, drawback. It's splashed on her. I took this

512
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: from Brian Call and I just used it. Um. So

513
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: let's just get the pin on the on the deer

514
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: where you want it and then watch it keep it.

515
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: So I'm just watching the pin and letting the pin flop.

516
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna watch, watch, watch, and then it's pull pull, pull, pull,

517
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: and so all at that point once I'm on, I'm

518
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: watching it for a couple of seconds and then I'm

519
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: just gonna slowly pull pull, pull until that sucker goes

520
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: off and I use the back tension released now so

521
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: that I kind of lose a little bit of control

522
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: and that I can't determine when the trigger gets punched.

523
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: All I can do is pull, and it's just like

524
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: a slow squeeze back with the shoulder and then it

525
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: goes And that's helped me a lot. I'm not saying

526
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm perfect, Let's helped me a lot. Um. That's that's

527
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: one way to think about some of these things. I

528
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: guess let's get to then, Dan, what happened on this hunt.

529
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: So we're gonna keep working through a number of different

530
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: examples here and talking about what we can do from those.

531
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: So Dan, you you had that archery encounter and then

532
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna come out here and hunt with us. Um,

533
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: what were your thoughts coming to this on? Were you excited?

534
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: Were you nervous? Did you think I'm gonna kill a deer?

535
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: Did you think this is did you want to do this?

536
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: Were you feeling pressured to do this? Where's your head? So?

537
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: I didn't feel pressured to do this at all? I

538
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 1: I was. I was really excited. Like you guys had

539
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: me out over the summer. I put some work into

540
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: the property and I was fired up to to come

541
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: out and hunt with you guys, right. So I was

542
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: happy to be here and I was ready to go.

543
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: I did you know, like my rifle hunting experience has

544
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: been limited, right, So that that aspect was kind of

545
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: you know, I was a little unsure about it, but

546
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, uh, you know, I felt pretty confident that

547
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: you guys would coach me through it and we would

548
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: end up getting getting into something. Um. So I was

549
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: pretty was pretty excited, pretty kind of nervous, but yeah,

550
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: I felt good. Yea uh. And so we started the

551
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: trip Dan and Dan came with my place. We did

552
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: some shooting. Everyone was shooting really good. We felt good

553
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: about stuff. Um, and then we had out to hunt.

554
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: First day we had a lousy weather. It was like monsoon,

555
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: crazy wind Michigan. Dan was that probably wasn't what you

556
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: were expecting and invest thing. I didn't know what to expect.

557
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: I think i'd asked you, I don't know a week

558
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: or two before I came out, It's like, what should

559
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: I plan for for weather? And you told me, well,

560
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: it's been seventy five here, but it could get down

561
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: to the twenties. So it was kind of a wide range.

562
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I was coming into and what

563
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: to expect when I did get here, and she she

564
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: gave her She gave us Hell's Kansas and Michigan. Yeah,

565
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: it was some serious blowing winds. I think it's like

566
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty sustained type winds with gusts up

567
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: to sixty at one point there soon. Um, there were

568
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: a couple of times when the gusts hit the tower blends,

569
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, good, about to get some good

570
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: footage of us falling over. But everything held up darn

571
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: well and the wallton never nothing pulled on the wall

572
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: to solid construction. Whoever started up the impressed, Yes, it

573
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: must have been us that did a good job. Um,

574
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: and the tower blinds withstood it all. I was pleasantly

575
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: surprised with all that. Um. But day one was pretty rough.

576
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: We saw what the first morning we saw Dan and

577
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: I work three do three doughs? Yeah, I think so.

578
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: I think we had the one that busted us. And

579
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: did we see a few more summer? I feel like

580
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: we saw three in the morning and three in the

581
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: evening I remember, right. I can't remember where those three were,

582
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: remember the one that came down by itself, But we

583
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: were the other two well, in the evening you're talking

584
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 1: about the evening. In the morning, I can't remember. I

585
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: saw nothing but sideways rain. You saw hard blind And

586
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: then we played a lot of UK in the middle

587
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: of the day, which was fun. Found out the dans

588
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: of cheating food played a cheating is not the right

589
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: way to describe my that is fair game. Yeah, he

590
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have been here if you don't know about

591
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: his character exactly. We would have redacted that invitation real

592
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: quick if I played cards to the beforehand. Yeah, I

593
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: guess so. Um. We snuck out at the end of

594
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: the evening was crazy windy. We thought, you know, let's

595
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: just sneak out in the ground and see if we

596
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: can spot something and maybe get lucky. We ended up

597
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: seeing three doughs, which you know, could have been a

598
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: buck behind him. You never know. It could have worked out,

599
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: but it didn't. It was worth a shot. And uh,

600
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: next morning we switched locations. We ended up seeing three

601
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: doughs or handful of dos. No five doughs, so five

602
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: there's the first two and then another group of three

603
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: and Dane, would you see three dos? So we've been

604
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: seeing kind of a handful of dose every sin it's

605
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: kind of been the story, but no bucks until last night. Um.

606
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: And this is a relatively short hunt, three day hunt

607
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: with bad weather in the first day. We're on night

608
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: of number two, so we're approaching two thirds of the

609
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: way done. Dan, how are you feeling going into the hunt?

610
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: Last night we set up back near the honey hole. Uh,

611
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: the same spot that my dad was hunting. One of

612
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: the nights when he came out here, um close to

613
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: where I killed my buck a week ago. Um, do

614
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: you feel good? Did you feel? Yeah? I felt really

615
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: good going into the evening hunt last night. The weather

616
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: was kind of calming down, the wind was going to

617
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: die down in the evening, right kind of near last

618
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: shooting light. So I think I told you earlier in

619
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: the day. I think like tonight's tonight's I have a

620
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: good feeling about tonight. So yeah, I was really excited. Yeah,

621
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: I felt really good too. Like you said that, we've

622
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: been having a crazy wind and bad weather, and and

623
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: yesterday evening was the first day it was really gonna

624
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: first time I was gonna it was gonna die down.

625
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: It was real cold, bluebird skies. It just seemed like

626
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: deer should be moving. And sure enough we got to

627
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: the last hour or so, last forty five minutes and bam,

628
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: first year we see behind us, justin extraly spot a

629
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: first nice nice eye. Justin, Um, there's a buck standing

630
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: right behind us. First buck was seen of the hunt.

631
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: And justin just as there's a buck right behind us.

632
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: And then I slipped my head around and look out

633
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: the side window, and I see right away it's like

634
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: a nice tight tall buck. Um, and he's he's staring

635
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: right at us. Dan, what I was going? Walk me

636
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: through your thoughts at this point. So we say there's

637
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: a buck, I spin around and and you didn't move.

638
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: You were just kind of sitting there one like, Dann,

639
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: you should be getting ready now breathing started. So Dan

640
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: walked me through was going through your head when when

641
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: you heard there's a buck, and then the process began.

642
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 1: And I'll let you kind of tell the story from

643
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: here if you want, and maybe we'll jump in, but

644
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: you walk up there, I'll do my best to try

645
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: to give you guys a feel for what happened. So

646
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: so Justin says there's a buck behind us, first thought

647
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: in my mind is like you're kidding. And then but

648
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: it's like all right, here we go like um, so

649
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: like my next thought was like, all right, I want

650
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: to get eyes on it to just just see where

651
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: it's at, see what I have to do next. Um.

652
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: Where the buck was at was wasn't really where we

653
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: were anticipating anything to really come by, right, Like we

654
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: were kind of checking the back, but we weren't really

655
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: like focused on that being a scenario where we would

656
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: take a shot. Like we were. We were looking out

657
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: of the front window. I was looking out of the side.

658
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: You were looking out of the side, but the back

659
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: window was kind of like our least expected opportunity. Um.

660
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: So we kind of had to do some like shuffling around, right.

661
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: Um so Justin had to get a camera in position.

662
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: I had to get like my shooting stick over to

663
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: where I you know, I thought I could get comfortable

664
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: and get the gun set up and um get in

665
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: position to take a shot. Uh So at that point,

666
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: the buck was just kind of staring at us, right,

667
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: it was down when he knew something was up, but

668
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: apparently didn't know enough because he didn't move. He just

669
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: stood there's kind of like nose up looking staring. But

670
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: but for a long time, for a minute or two,

671
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, for quite a while. Right, I'd ranged

672
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: him as soon saw I'd spun, got my head out

673
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: there and ranged him. Was just over a hundred yards. Um.

674
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: And then yeah, you you you started getting in position,

675
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: knelt down, get your shooting stick up. Yeah, and uh yeah,

676
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: you were kind of you were doing mark. You were

677
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: doing a good job with like you know, take your time. Um,

678
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: you know, get comfortable, and then you know he's gonna

679
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: start walking away, and right then, you know, I'll try

680
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: to make a big noise to stop him. And then's

681
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: where that's when we'll have try to you know, have

682
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get a shot. And uh so I

683
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: get set up. I'm I'm shaking, man. You know, I'm

684
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: getting nervous, I'm getting the buck fever coming coming down.

685
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: I'm breathing heavy. But I'm just trying to stay in

686
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: control as best as possible. Right. Um, I had a

687
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: little awkward thing going out with my shooting stick where

688
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: I had to prop it up against my leg get

689
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: the gun up, but I had the book in my view,

690
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: had him in the crosshairs, and as he started to

691
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: walk away, he kind of turned away from us. Um

692
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: took a few steps and then looked back and he

693
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: was quartering away from us. Perfect like perfect opportunity, right

694
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: like perfect case scenario to get a shot. Mark. You

695
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: didn't really have to give him a big noise or anything.

696
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: But I just kind of like kept saying, don't rush

697
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: the shot, don't rush the shot, like just like we practice,

698
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: just easy squeeze and Um, for what it was worth,

699
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: it was a pretty hard quarter. So yeah, I mean

700
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: he he wasn't you know, he was definitely less broadside

701
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: than you would hope. But your angle makes it look

702
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: worse than it was from my angle, looked not. I

703
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: mean it was a good job. Yeah, yeah, but I

704
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: mean it was definitely the best that he had given

705
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 1: a second point, when I saw him in the scupe,

706
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: I said, this is this is fantastic, um, And I

707
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: put the cross hairs where where they needed to be.

708
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: Obviously I had some I had some shake in me,

709
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, Um. And then uh, I let it ripped

710
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: right like I let it rip, and I kept looking

711
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: through the scope. He he started to trot off, but

712
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: he didn't like, you know, go busting through sprinting away

713
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: like he spooped. He kind of trotted off, went into

714
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: the fence rowe kind of like that wooded area. UM

715
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: looked back, was flicking his tail, head, his head, his

716
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: leg up. And my first thought after I took the

717
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: shot was like, like what happened? Like did I did

718
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: I hit him? Why didn't he drop? Right? Like That's

719
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: what I was looking for. I was like, why didn't

720
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: he drop? Like he didn't drop? It must have missed, Um,

721
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: so so then I think it was you guys were like,

722
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: you hit him, like I think that was a good shot.

723
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: And then he looked like he either turned down like

724
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: a little ridge or a little hill, and I think

725
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: you guys said like, we think he went down he

726
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: tipped over. And I said really like like I'm thinking

727
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: in my head like I don't I don't know, like

728
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if I missed him. I

729
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: don't know if I hit him and it wasn't a

730
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: good shot. I started to get a little worried, and

731
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: I remember looking through the binoculars watching it all happen,

732
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: and at the hit, I couldn't see impact, but the

733
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: way he started running off sort of I immediately thought

734
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: that's a good hit, because the tail tucked almost immediately

735
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: and he almost look a little hunched over. And then

736
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: when he got to the edge of the woods, he stopped,

737
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: and that's when it looked like he was a little

738
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: hunched and the tail started flicking. And the first thing

739
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: I thought when I saw that was okay, hitting the

740
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: back hit back a little bit, because whenever you see

741
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: a deer that hunches up and the tail was kind

742
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: of like that, that seems like a paunch it of

743
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: some kind, but with cording away angle. I thought, okay,

744
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: entry a little bit back, which explains why I reacted

745
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: that way. Exit right through the lungs dead deer. And

746
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: so so he stops for a couple of seconds like that,

747
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: just inside the tree, so you can just kind of

748
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: see his figure like that, and then he tail keeps

749
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: flicking step step step, and then it really looks like

750
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: it really looks dropped. I don't I can't explain what

751
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: we were seeing, but it really looked like that. So

752
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: that's why myself of the binoculars and then we all

753
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: justin I both thought, man, we think that's a There

754
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: is nothing that he did indicated he wasn't hit. I

755
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: mean yeah, just like you explained, it's like Dan, and

756
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: now I feel like, you know, a goon because like

757
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: I just totally myself misinterpreted it. You know, do you

758
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: feel complicit? Now? I feel like Dan's not going to

759
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: trust me. I don't know about that. Just so yeah, um,

760
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: but man, we were stoked, and uh, Dan was like

761
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: sitting there. I'm like, dude, who you gotta stare at?

762
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: Like texting people get excited about this when we when

763
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: we heard the shot over in our blind it was immediate.

764
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: Me and Charlie looked at each other and we were stoked.

765
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: We heard the shots like that was Dan, that's a deer,

766
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 1: Like it's down. I pulled out my phone immediately and

767
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: just was waiting for a text message, just waiting for something.

768
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: So we were filing the excitement too over in our

769
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: blind forehead. We're so excited. Uh. And and you know

770
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: that's that's those moments or what you live for as

771
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: a hunter, like that ultimate euphoria dandis shots first deer.

772
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: We're so excited for you and and and you were

773
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: the one being cautious, which was smart. Me and Justin

774
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: were like little stupid kids. And uh, you know, a

775
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: long story short, we can kind of fast forward a

776
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: little bit. We decided to, you know, give it a

777
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: little time, go back, get the get the UTV, get

778
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 1: the rest of the crew. Um, just make sure everything

779
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: was cool. And then we go back out there and look.

780
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: And and when we went back out there to look,

781
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: couldn't find blood, couldn't find couldn't find hair, couldn't find anything. Um,

782
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: search and search and search, no sign. And then we thought, well,

783
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: let's just peek over to where we saw him go down,

784
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: quote unquote, he should be right there, go over there.

785
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: Nothing nothing, no blood, no blood. We find one speck

786
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: of red that we think is blood. That's it. We

787
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: spent quite a deal, quite a good amount of time

788
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: from there continuing to look went in a little ways.

789
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: At this point, after finding nothing between the site impact

790
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: and where we thought that dear had gone down and

791
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: in so little sign, I started getting worried. But I

792
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: have a friend with a tracking dog who, um, who

793
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,879
Speaker 1: I know is really good and has helped a lot

794
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: of people in this situation. So once we got to

795
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: that point where it's like, okay, we do not have

796
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: good blood. We've searched decent ways in here without any

797
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: kind of positive sign um. What he's always telling me.

798
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: He's like, don't screw it up for me, if you're

799
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: not feeling good about it, don't go too far and

800
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 1: ruin it for the dog. Let the dog do the work.

801
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: So we eventually decided to pull back, wait for the dog,

802
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: and and not push our luck. So we didn't have

803
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: my friend come out with his dog. We continue to

804
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: look more around the side of impact, trying to find something,

805
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: continue to look inside the woods, trying to find something.

806
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: My buddy comes out with this dog. He goes tracking

807
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: the dogs on a track, but she doesn't follow blood.

808
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: She follows like an interdigital glands. And so even there

809
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: was no blood, she was tracking something. But he kept

810
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: going and going and going, and justin year with him

811
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: for a while. So you saw this. But to make it, uh,

812
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: to kind of take hours of time and compress it

813
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: into a short period. Um, you know it found zero

814
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: blood found, zero deer found, no hair, found nothing. And

815
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: when we restarted that track three times just to be sure, Um,

816
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: she was on the right dear, and yeah, we just

817
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: never never could find anything. And he went and did

818
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: downwind sweeps of all the different areas of cover just

819
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: in case and see if she could smell a body

820
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: or something enough. And um, so I don't know it was.

821
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: It was midnight or one o'clock or something by the

822
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: time we called. We called it, and um, I ended

823
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: up finding after looking for more blood, I found in

824
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: this area where we found that little speck of blood,

825
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, like a little less than a fingernail blood. Um,

826
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot of these little berries, like red berries,

827
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: and one of the berries I was smashing barriers to

828
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: try to see like what does the smash berry look like?

829
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: And one of them had like an orange jelly light consistency.

830
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that doesn't look anything like our blood,

831
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: so I must be really blood. But then later I

832
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: was testing on another berry and that one looked exactly

833
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: like our speck of blood. There's a dark red barrier.

834
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: So then I was starting to question, like was that

835
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: even blood. We looked at the footage over and over again, like, man,

836
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 1: we can't see an impact. We can't see like maybe

837
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: maybe this little movement on his shoulder is it, but

838
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: we just can't tell on the small screen. Um, And

839
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: so we we pulled out for the night. You guys

840
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: blew it up on the big screen, looked at again,

841
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 1: and what did you guys see justin when you looked

842
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: on the big screen. Yeah, we got back at thirty

843
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: and I was like just kind of dying to see

844
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: what had happened, because I knew once we got like

845
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 1: zoomed in a bit, it would tell more of the story.

846
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: And um, you could see the shot and immediately you

847
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: know the deer reacted and when you go frame by frame,

848
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: like then I see behind the deer there's a reaction

849
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: at the base of this tree, and I see a

850
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: stick jump and then I see like they're So it

851
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: was immediately evident that like the shot was over its

852
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: back and it hit the tree behind, and there was

853
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of a you know, and obviously you

854
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: have a three inch screen, you can't really tell what's

855
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: going on. But yeah, so it was like, man, I

856
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: wish we could have seen this sooner, but it was

857
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: It actually was a relief because I knew then we

858
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 1: could tell Dan like us, and the deer's not hurt

859
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: at all. What we what we thought was blood must

860
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: be these berries, which we kind of like wrestled with

861
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: the whole time because we kept kind of seeing and

862
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: so I knew that Dan was already like struggling, but

863
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: I knew like part of that struggle was the fact

864
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: that he has a wounded deer out there. So it

865
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: was a way to to add closure to that situation

866
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: and like hopefully get him, uh mentally where he could

867
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: try again. Yeah, so we ended the night and you

868
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: know kind of a Dan, take tonight, sleep in, think

869
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: about what you want to do, um, and then let's

870
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: figure out how we want to proceed from here. What

871
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: was last night and this morning? Like for you, Yeah,

872
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: last night was rough. I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. It

873
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: was like, you know, a lot of different things happening

874
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: in my mind. Like you know, the big thing was

875
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 1: all right, I just shot at the animal. I wounded it,

876
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: but he didn't die. Um. That that was. That's been

877
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: like my biggest thing with with getting into hunting is

878
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: like I don't want to like have to put you know,

879
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: more than one arrow in a deer, more than one

880
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: shot intew a deer. I just want to clean an

881
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: ethical kill like that. That was. That was really eating

882
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: away at me. Uh. The other part of it is

883
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: like we were we were out, all of us were out,

884
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: and I you know, I really appreciate you guys being

885
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: out and being so supportive Like that was like God,

886
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: like I put us in this situation. I'm bringing the

887
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: whole group down. Like I feel terrible, but you I mean,

888
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: you guys were great, justin you June Bug and Andy

889
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: like put in put in some work to try to

890
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: figure out what was going on. And I really appreciate that.

891
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: That was going through my mind and I just kind

892
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: I felt bad. I felt you know a little bit

893
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: of embarrassment, Like I just just kind of had a

894
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: sick to my stomach type type of field in so

895
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: many different ways that that was last night. But you know,

896
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: I went back. I was so austin and I ended

897
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: up luckily crashing right away. Um, you know, woke up

898
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: this morning and I had talked to one of my

899
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: fishing buddies, Will, and he was, you know, I was

900
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: running through everything was going on. I was telling him

901
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: like what should I do, Like should I just kind

902
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: of take it off or whatever? And he was like

903
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: kind of talking me through some stuff. He's like he's

904
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: a fan of Jocko and he goes, you know, when

905
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: something bad happens, like good get better. And I'm like, alright,

906
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: Like now you got me all fired up. So you

907
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: know you had mentioned you had mentioned maybe you know,

908
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, take them morning off and getting some some

909
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: more shots and making sure our gun was good and

910
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: then maybe doing something like an evening hunt. And I

911
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: was like, all right, let's let's do that. Let's get

912
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: comfortable with the gun again, and then let's maybe try

913
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: to give it another shot in the evening. Well. I

914
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: was excited to hear that because my experience has always

915
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: been that, Like, what happened is the worst. It's the

916
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: worst feeling if you go from this euphoria thinking that

917
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: the thing you've wanted so badly just happened to just

918
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: having a crash back down. I mean, there's no wilder

919
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: swing of emotions that I can think if you go

920
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: from we said all the time, the highest highest to

921
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: the lowest and lowest. I mean, that's but the best

922
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: thing I found is too you feel it, feel it

923
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: that day or that night, experience it. Okay, this sucks.

924
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: This happened, Like we're not gonna ignore that it happened.

925
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: It happened, but it's now past us, it's behind us.

926
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,919
Speaker 1: There's nothing I can I can't do anything to change

927
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: what happened. All I can do is change what's next. So,

928
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: like Jacko says, good now, what now? What are you

929
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: gonna do? And that's the way I've always tried to

930
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: approach things. So that next day I like to shoot,

931
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: get get my confidence back, and that's back into it.

932
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: And so that's what we did this morning, came over

933
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 1: my place, we did some more shooting. You're shooting great.

934
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: The gun the site was actually, for whatever reason, the

935
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: scope was hitting a little bit higher than we would

936
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: have wanted, so we tweaked that a little bit. We've

937
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 1: practiced different shooting angles, different shoot positions. So you shot seated,

938
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: you shot kneeling, You shot with a good rest, you

939
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: shot with just the stick rest, um got you. You know,

940
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: I hope you're feeling confident again and locked in and

941
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna go out and give it a crack tonight.

942
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: So so so you're you're feeling, you're feeling ready to

943
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: take take this next step and get back effort. Yeah,

944
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm feeling ready. Yeah, last night was rough,

945
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: and you know, so many things we're going through my mind,

946
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 1: like God, like just I should just stick to fishing

947
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: or something like. You know, well, I'm glad you got

948
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,879
Speaker 1: past that because I love fishing. It's not as much

949
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: meat and uh. And I think that when this all

950
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: comes together for you, when it's going to I can't

951
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: promise gonna happen today, but at some point this is

952
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: gonna come together for you, makes it all the much sweeter.

953
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: Oh man, It's gonna be an unbelievable culmination for you,

954
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: and you're gonna eat the best food of your life

955
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: and you'll never feel so satisfied with the meal and

956
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: the work you put into this is going to come

957
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: back tenfold. And I'm just so excited for that moment.

958
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: And I hope it happens tonight. If not, I hope

959
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a phone call or a picture and

960
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna crack a cold one for you, and I'm

961
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: gonna be really really happy because I got a lot

962
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,959
Speaker 1: of confidence in you from from spend time with you

963
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: last fall, a little bit this summer, now this week. Um,

964
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: you are on the right track, man, You're definitely on

965
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: the right track. So so I guess the way to

966
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: end this then because we know how dance hunt last

967
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: night and and we'll get an ending there possibly later today.

968
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: But you had made these mistakes, or maybe not in

969
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: really big mistakes, but you had these things happen, you know,

970
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: the nerves, and we've talked with things like justin described

971
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: feeling you had to force a shot, feeling like you've

972
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: had forced a shot with that deer in the bow. Um,

973
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: you know you're a brand new hunter and you experienced that. Well,

974
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: we should end the conversation with a very experienced hunter

975
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: describing something like that. So for all of you folks listening,

976
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: you heard last week I shared the story of how

977
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: I killed the draft time buck out here in the

978
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: back for you. Well, when I got that done, we

979
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: finished filming things and I had a couple of extra

980
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: days before Dan and Dane we're going to show up,

981
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: so I had some bonus hunts. I thought, Man, I

982
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: can get back and try to get after my target

983
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: buck again. This deer I've been hunting for the last

984
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: three years, call him Tran. Anyone listening for a long

985
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: period of time has heard too much about this deer.

986
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: So I was really excited, like, man, I get to

987
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: go back after it. Good weather, good conditions. I haven't

988
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: been in there four days. Um, he's been in this

989
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: little pocket so much in the past. I'm going to

990
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: get back in there and take a crack. So a

991
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: couple updates from the last time I talked about my

992
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: hunt for tram So the last time on the podcast

993
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: I gave you as an update, it was after I

994
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: had seen him locked onto a dough. I tried to

995
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: spot and stalk in on him, never came quite close enough.

996
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: And then two days later I think I made the

997
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: move into like the middle of this betting area. Super

998
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: early set up a news stand, and he came by

999
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: ten minutes before a shooting light, and I couldn't shoot him,

1000
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: but he was right there ten yards and then he

1001
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: winded me after he walked past my shooting lane and

1002
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: went down wind. So that had all happened. After that,

1003
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: hunt kept on going after him. The next day, I'm

1004
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: walking out to set up on the north side of

1005
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 1: this betting area, and as I'm walking on the outside

1006
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: edge of the cut cornfield, the only way I can

1007
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 1: get to the north side of the section. Um, there's

1008
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: never deer betted around here. This is safe access route.

1009
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 1: It's like two o'clock in the afternoon or one thirty

1010
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: in the afternoon, and a deer, a dope jumps out

1011
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: from in front of me, and like a little ten

1012
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: ft patch of grass on the edge of this cornfield,

1013
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 1: the dope starts running and then right behind her steps

1014
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: up Tran goes running away. He was down winding me.

1015
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: He was he saw me, so I just busted him,

1016
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: like fifty yards away. He goes running the laft. So

1017
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 1: that's the second time. And no, well, he winded me

1018
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: twice the day before because he went down wind to

1019
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: me before daylight and then came two hundred yards down

1020
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: wind later in the day. The day prior and now

1021
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: the next day, I just bumped him visually and with wind.

1022
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: So I'm bummed out and frustrated with that. I repositioned

1023
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: for that even news hunt. Don't see him that night,

1024
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: but the next day I keep on keep on moving,

1025
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: and basically at this point in the season, after having

1026
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: had so many encounters with him in this in and

1027
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: around his betting area, I decided, like the rest of

1028
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: my hunt for him, the key is not I'm not

1029
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: blowing the mount of here. He wants to be in

1030
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: this pocket. It's like thirty acres a thick, nasty and

1031
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: there's so many doughs in here, and it just seems

1032
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: like everything I'm seeing this is where he is, and

1033
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: he's just going from dough to dough to dough in here,

1034
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: and there's no reason for him to leave because there's

1035
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: enough dos in here in this food and cover, and

1036
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: if if you know, historically he's not been bothered in

1037
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: this area. Just this year, for the first time, I

1038
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: could get into some of the stuff. So I decided

1039
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep cycling around this based off wind

1040
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: direct and being one of these couple of key places

1041
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: that he seems to pass through the most when he's

1042
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: cruising or we're does will take him in and out

1043
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: here on a camp out in those spots, so that

1044
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: next night I make a move into the same general area,

1045
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: see him again. He's kind of cruising, follows a doorways

1046
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, but similar situation doesn't give me a shot.

1047
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: Um too far away with her and then follows her

1048
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: out into the corn. That was right around the end

1049
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: of the first period of hunting before I had come

1050
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: and start hunting the back forty. So come hunt the

1051
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: back ford to kill the draft time buck. Now I'm

1052
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: back on the property. I've got my couple of bonus days.

1053
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: First day it's cold front pushing to the south side

1054
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 1: of this pocket of bedding because we've got something slightly

1055
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: north northwest winds and gets set up on the edge

1056
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 1: of the stuff. Every time and going, I'm setting a

1057
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: new stands. I hunting new spots every single time, going

1058
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: in my sticks and saddle about an hour after daylight. Um,

1059
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm watching t J. This buck that looks just like

1060
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: Tram like a couple of years younger. He comes working

1061
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: past me like five yards. I'm watching him and I

1062
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 1: look up and here comes the real deal. Here comes

1063
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: Tran coming right at me. Um, it looks great, like

1064
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: this is gonna have him grabbed my ball, get clipped on.

1065
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: He's at seventy five, he's at seventy, he's at sixty five,

1066
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: he's at sixty, he's at fifty five, kind of heading

1067
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: up my right at me, and then he turns his

1068
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: angle and starts angling the way back to sixty, back

1069
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,399
Speaker 1: to sixty five, back to seventy. And at that point

1070
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: I realized, Okay, he's not coming my way. Um, I

1071
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: gotta try something. So I grabbed the grunt tube. Get

1072
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: him a grunt. He stopped, looked my way, took a

1073
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: step forward, and then turn start walking away again. It's like,

1074
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: I'll try to get a little more aggressive and try

1075
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: snort wee's. And we just had this whole big debate

1076
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: about snort weez is like the day before with Tony

1077
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: and Justin and Charlie, and I know he says, man,

1078
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: you know, I really don't like to use snort reezes

1079
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: on immature bucks and and even on big mature bucks

1080
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: that regularly works in Michigan, where I hunt, but you

1081
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 1: know it was worth a shot, so I ripped out

1082
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: of snort whist. He spins, stares at me, and then

1083
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: does like the head like left to the right, to

1084
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: the left to the right, and then uh not today, bro.

1085
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: They starts to running away. He goes bolting off and

1086
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: then stops after like bolting like forty yards, stops, turns

1087
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: back again, and then just as like a fast paced

1088
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: walk kind of paralleling away from me. So once again,

1089
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 1: another close call doesn't come together. I'm like, oh my god,

1090
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna kill this deer. And this has just

1091
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: been like endless. Every couple of days I have an

1092
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: encounter with him but just just a little too far

1093
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: away or something goes wrong or that was the same

1094
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: story last year. And I've been talking about this deer

1095
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: and busting my balls trying to get this deer, and

1096
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: it's just it just felt it was never gonna happen. Um.

1097
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: And and as much as I love hunting deer, and

1098
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: I love chasing one specific deer and I love all

1099
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: that stuff, I was definitely getting frustrated. Just felt like

1100
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm chasing my tail, and um,

1101
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: I don't know it was just I was kind of

1102
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: just bonking. Just it's kind of like that I don't

1103
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: know want to do. Like every night I come back,

1104
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking to my wife school, what happened? What do

1105
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: you think? I'm like, I gotta throw my hands up

1106
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: and there I'm like, I don't know, Like I'm right

1107
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: there but never right there, and I don't know what

1108
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: else to do. Um, I'm just gonna keep on trying

1109
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: and keep on being in this general area and and

1110
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: try to be as smart as you can with the wind.

1111
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: And eventually I gotta get lucky. Like I just need

1112
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: the right set of circumstance. I'm right in the game.

1113
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: I just need one more thing to follow my favor.

1114
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: So make another move. The next day, see him again,

1115
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: but he's chasing a dough out of range. Um where

1116
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: I was the day before or something like that takes

1117
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: us one day further. And this is November twelve, and

1118
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: I pushed in, got in really early, came in the

1119
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: back door of this betting year set up just on

1120
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: the outside edge of the really thick, nasty st uf,

1121
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: just with the wind cutting it, and um, I this

1122
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: is right on his doorstep of the betting year. He

1123
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: likes the most. It's more signing there than anywhere else.

1124
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: It's more does coming in another spot than just about

1125
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: anywhere else. And I could, I could get away with

1126
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: it with a wind there. And it was kind of

1127
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: slow morning, but around ten I started seeing bucks showing up,

1128
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: just like it was. It was zero deer then all

1129
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: of a sudden like fuck, fuck buck, and then I

1130
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: saw deerro running pass. About ten thirty, I saw a

1131
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: buck around buck, a rounding bucker round the last buck

1132
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: I saw I look like tall times, tall, white times man.

1133
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: That could have been him. That might have been him

1134
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: was just a brief flash and this little gap in

1135
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: the timber, but I kind of got right into that

1136
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: he might have just ran up in there, watching, watching, watch,

1137
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 1: and I see some other bucks come back from that direction,

1138
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: and just feeling good. And it's late morning, it's almost

1139
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock. But when you see that kind of activity,

1140
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: basically what I'm thinking my head is, Okay, there's a

1141
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: hot dough somewhere in my general region. That's that's what

1142
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: I need. And sure enough, not minutes after kind of

1143
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: being sitting there having the internal conversation, a dope pops

1144
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: up over this little berm, and the first thing I

1145
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: saw was she she popped over the berm, and then

1146
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,920
Speaker 1: she squatted and starts peeing, and then her tails is flicking.

1147
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: Then she stopped just kind of hunting to her tails flicking,

1148
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: tails flicking, tails flicking, and immediately like that's a hot dough.

1149
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: That's a dough, and there's a buck with her, Like

1150
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: this is there's something behind her. I'm watching and waiting.

1151
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 1: She kind of takes a few more steps and just

1152
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: stands her tail flicking, tail flicking, tail flicking, takes a

1153
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: few more steps, looks behind her, and I just see

1154
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: the tips of these times, and then they keep on

1155
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: getting bigger and taller and taller and taller and taller

1156
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: and trying. The man steps out over this berm. Perfect

1157
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: Like the image is like we're in this timber. I'm

1158
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: on the edge of the thick stuff, and there's like

1159
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: standing mature timber, and he's actually in the standing mature timber,

1160
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: and there's all these trees. But then it's like one

1161
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: lane in between all the trees, and it looks kind

1162
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: of like if you're in an old cathedral, like an

1163
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: old Catholic cathedral, if you can imagine the aisle that

1164
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: runs down the middle of the cathedral and you get

1165
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: all your pews on either side. He was kind of

1166
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: standing there at the end of the aisle, like the

1167
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: pastor at the front of this big Roman Catholic church,

1168
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: standing there, just proud, holding his hands up. But it

1169
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: was this huge antler current kind of turns and looks

1170
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: and his head's kind of going left and right, and

1171
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: the lights glimmering off him, and I think, holy shit,

1172
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: here we go. And then she turns. She's been going

1173
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: kind of parallel to me, and she turns and starts

1174
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: walking right to me, and that's when I really said,

1175
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: holy ship, here we go. Grab my bow and I

1176
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,960
Speaker 1: remember thinking, finally, finally, I've got a hot deal that's

1177
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: gonna just bring him right towards me. And that's what

1178
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: they do coming my way. And I remember thinking, in

1179
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: this moment, okay, like what like, think through everything? Where

1180
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,439
Speaker 1: is she gonna come through? I made sure like there's

1181
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: no sticks behind you that you're gonna bump when I

1182
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: moved down to position and said, okay, make sure, how

1183
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: are you going to adjust your knees here? How are

1184
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: you gonna be positioned? Trying to think through exactly we're

1185
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: gonna pass through. I grab my range finder, made sure

1186
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: would be easy for me to grab my range for

1187
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: I started ranging things in front of her so that

1188
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: I would know ahead of time. If she stops behind

1189
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: this tree, she's gonna be at this distance. If they

1190
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: come through here, there's gonna be that distance. I remember

1191
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: looking at my broadhead make sure my broadhead didn't get

1192
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: pulled off or anything. I was like trying to check all.

1193
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, check, check, check, check, and they're

1194
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: just slowly working their way. She comes towards this little

1195
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: old two track that runs right along this edge down nearby,

1196
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: and I remember thinking, okay, that's where she's didn't cross

1197
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: this at this two track. If she crossed the two

1198
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: track and gets to the other side of it, she

1199
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: gets into the thick and then there's there's there's no

1200
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 1: shots at that point. So I ranged right as she crosses.

1201
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: I've ranged her, and she's about forty yards, So I'm thinking, okay,

1202
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna be crossing just about the same place, about

1203
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: forty yards. And there's a big tree right there, and

1204
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: there's the y in the tree, and right in between

1205
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: the y is where she crossed and I thought, Okay,

1206
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: that's my one shot if he comes through there. So

1207
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: she crosses. I'm watching him as soon as he got

1208
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: to you know, just for that, and stepped behind a tree.

1209
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: I drew back anchored, got on it and just waited

1210
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: for him to step into that hole. And as soon

1211
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: as he stepped in that hole, RANT trying to stop him,

1212
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: and he just blasts right through that lane that didn't

1213
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: even pause, just like right through zero shot. And immediately

1214
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: it's down into that thick with the dough. So now

1215
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: he's a thirty nine or thirty eight or something like that.

1216
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:31,919
Speaker 1: She keeps walking and now I remember thinking myself, now,

1217
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,919
Speaker 1: what like you have to get a shot. He's right here,

1218
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: He's finally in range. You finally have your chance of

1219
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: this deer that has consumed your life for the last

1220
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: two years. And like everything, like I've never worked so

1221
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 1: hard for a deer. I know, like every year I

1222
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: talked like that, I guess, but this has really been

1223
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: like a different level. Um, like I've done I've tried

1224
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: to analyze like what I do and how I do it,

1225
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: and have I made good decisions and have I been

1226
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: doing things the right way? And even though like the

1227
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 1: rest haven't been what I've wanted. I'm a nerd, and

1228
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: I've read a lot about like decision making and like

1229
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: trying to find different ways to analyze the quality of

1230
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: your decisions, how to make better decisions, how to uh

1231
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: learn from your results. And there's something called resulting, which

1232
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: is a bias that the human mind has, typically where

1233
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: you will misjudge decisions based off the end result, when

1234
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: oftentimes an end result is not directly correlated to a decision,

1235
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: but a variety of different factors. So you won't take

1236
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: into effect pure chance, you won't take into effect um,

1237
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: you know, all these different variables, and you'll just say, well,

1238
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: because because such and such guy through an interception, that

1239
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: was a bad play call and that quarterback sucks and

1240
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: that was bad, bad, bad, when actually maybe it really

1241
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: was if you look at the probabilities and if you

1242
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: look at everything, it was really the best play call

1243
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: he could have made, and it really was a good pass,

1244
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: but they just got a little lucky, or that one

1245
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: guy took a step and it changes everything. And so

1246
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:58,440
Speaker 1: what I've tried to do over the course of the

1247
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: season is to not judge what I'm doing based solely

1248
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: on the results of each one of my hunts. If

1249
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: I were to do that and be getting more and

1250
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: more and more frustrated, I think I'm an idiot. But

1251
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: to instead try to judge the quality of my decisions

1252
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: throughout the season, and so think, okay, based on what

1253
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: I know, based on what I've seen, based on all

1254
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: the work I've put in, Um, you know, did I

1255
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 1: do the right thing? Did I do the thing that

1256
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: I knew I should do? When I look back and think, okay,

1257
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: with all these factors, was that decision? You know? Did

1258
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: I put in the amount of work I should have?

1259
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: Did I do the thing that would have given me

1260
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: the highest probability even though it didn't work out? Could

1261
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: I have done something different looking back on it without

1262
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: some kind of hindsight bias and what I've done it

1263
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: differently and many times like, No, it didn't work out,

1264
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: but that was a damn good decision and you execute

1265
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: it on the right way. I bring all this stuff

1266
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: to say that it feels it has felt like more

1267
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: than any other year I have. I've leveled up, but

1268
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: the results haven't panned out that way. I've been like,

1269
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: really happy with how I made adjustments in my level

1270
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: of aggression and my willingness to try new things and

1271
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: adapt and adapt and adapt, and so now finally things

1272
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: are working out. It looks like it feels like finally,

1273
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: you know, this is it, This is this thing I've

1274
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: been building up to all this time, and he's in

1275
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: this thick stuff, and my brains with my brain flips

1276
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: over to it's gotta happen. It's gotta happen. It's gotta happen.

1277
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: You need a shot, You need a shot, You need

1278
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: a shot, And all that slow and smooth and controlled

1279
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: stuff flies out the window and now it's how you

1280
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 1: Yes shoot, yes, shot, You have a fair way to

1281
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 1: do it. And so I remember he's in there, and

1282
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm like where there's gotta be some way to get

1283
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: a shot through here. And I remember I'm in my saddle.

1284
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking up and I'm looking down. I'm trying to

1285
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: find is there any pocket? Is there any holes there?

1286
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: Any gap? Is there any little slit I could fit

1287
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: an arrow through? And I find a little hole like

1288
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: a melon or a small volleyball or something. There's a

1289
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: little hole like man, if he comes right through there,

1290
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: which where the dough was, I can maybe slip one

1291
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: through there. And remember I had to I had just

1292
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 1: my tether, so for anyone who hunts from his saddle,

1293
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about here, I had to

1294
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: like pull my rope down and just like three ft down.

1295
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: So instead of being like leaning up almost standing on

1296
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: my platform, now I'm like three ft down lower, like

1297
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: hanging down low, and my knee against the tree. So

1298
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: I'm downlowing off so I could actually shoot through this hole.

1299
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: And oh, I'm just gonna get Charlie horse my leg.

1300
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: I find this hole and I'm looking at the hole.

1301
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I could slip one through there. But there's

1302
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: still twigs and branches and stuff all around it. It's

1303
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: just the one thing that's not impenetrable. But in that moment,

1304
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I gotta do it. I gotta do what

1305
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: I gotta do it, I gotta do it, and I

1306
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: draw back. Is he's getting close and then he hangs up,

1307
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: and he's standing in there and just standing there and

1308
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: just standing there, and then finally he steps into that hole.

1309
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: And even if I'm trying to remember everything that's going on,

1310
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: I even think in the moment I said something to

1311
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 1: myself like this, excuse me, the effort. I remember thinking

1312
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: like this, I think, I think, I remember having a

1313
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: moment like this isn't good. But it was like I

1314
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: was already pulling back as that was happening, like I was.

1315
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: I was not drawing back like I was on him,

1316
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: and I was executing the shot, just hoping I could

1317
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: punch it through. And and moments after I released the arrow,

1318
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 1: I instantly said I released the arrow, and instantly was

1319
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 1: like that was so stupid. But for the thirty seconds

1320
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: preceding it, I couldn't get that into my head. I couldn't.

1321
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: I had no control of it was all that pressure built.

1322
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: It was like a volcano inside of me, and I

1323
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: couldn't stop the lava. And it was just it was

1324
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: just going. The train was going, and I had two

1325
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: I had to shoot. And then as soon as I shot,

1326
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: I knew that I had done the wrong thing. And

1327
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: I knew that I just did the one thing that

1328
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: I tell myself and I tell other people not to do,

1329
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: which is forced the shot. I old my dad, as

1330
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: I told you, is you can never you can always

1331
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: get another shot some day. You can never take an

1332
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: arrow back if you force the shot, if you forced

1333
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: a bullet you can never get that back. And I

1334
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: did it myself and I couldn't get that arrow back

1335
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: and I missed. And I immediately knew I missed, and

1336
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: I think, I think, you know, when this little tiny

1337
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 1: hole hit those branches at the end, and so it

1338
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 1: could have been you know, I saw it was just

1339
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: like a it was just a stupid mess. And and

1340
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: you know, I still not even look back now. I'm

1341
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: just like, uh, I still feel the same way I

1342
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: guess I felt then, just like devastated and just stupid

1343
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 1: and embarrassed and pissed. And another thing I remembers as

1344
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: soon as that happened, and I said to myself that

1345
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: was like, what are you doing? Man? The first thing

1346
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: I thought was I'm never telling anyone about this. First thing,

1347
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: I thought, like, I'm not going to tell my friends,

1348
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:06,639
Speaker 1: I'm not telling my wife. Um. I was so mad

1349
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: that I just had let that happen and so frustrated

1350
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: by that. Was like nobody, I can't tell anyone about this.

1351
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: It was like so painful in that moment. Um. Yeah,

1352
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: but it is, isn't that life? Though? I Mean, obviously

1353
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who you are. Like Michael Jordan failed

1354
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: and he was the best, right, we you always just

1355
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: try your best, and like you were saying, it doesn't

1356
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: mean the outcome is going to be the best. But uh,

1357
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 1: what if you had killed him, you'd have been you'd

1358
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: have been like I did the best. I did the

1359
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 1: right thing. Yeah, talk about resulting. The sliver of hope

1360
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: is what makes us do kind of those. I mean,

1361
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: it's out of left field decisions. It might work if

1362
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: we all did it, if we always like succeeded, Ah,

1363
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: then I mean we we how could we grow? You know?

1364
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: So you know, I think you only think you made

1365
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: the bad, the wrong decision because it didn't work out. Well,

1366
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 1: I'm going to disagree with it a little bit because

1367
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: even if I did kill him and did hit him,

1368
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: it's still if I would have been by luck, like,

1369
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: it was still a poor It was a low odd shot.

1370
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: I should not have forced a shot through a tiny

1371
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 1: little gap like that with little twigs and branches and

1372
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: ship all around it. I simply like, that's not a good, smart,

1373
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: high odds shot. There's too much room for air. It

1374
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: was forced. Um, I guess ethics that would come into

1375
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 1: play there. Yeah, And and so for that reason, I

1376
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: shouldn't have like if if I had watched anyone else

1377
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: do that, I was like, don't do it, don't do it,

1378
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 1: don't do it. You can get another shot another day,

1379
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: or maybe he'll swing around, or maybe he'll turn around,

1380
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: or you know, you don't need to God forbid, I

1381
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: could now the worst case scenario didn't happen. The first

1382
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: case scenario could have been I forced that shot and

1383
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 1: I did hit him, and I hit him in the

1384
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 1: guts or him in the leg, or injured him somehow,

1385
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: I means so. So I got lucky in that regard.

1386
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: At least it was a clean mess and I was

1387
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 1: able to eventually get down go check it, found my arrow.

1388
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 1: I saw exactly a zero blood, zero anything on it,

1389
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: so I could confirm on clean mess. But thank goodness,

1390
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 1: I didn't want him. Um and uh and yeah, you

1391
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: know I couldn't have worked out. Maybe was there very

1392
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: high odds of it working out? No? Was I happy

1393
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: with how I handled the moment. No, it was the

1394
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: exact opposite of what I did four days prior with

1395
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 1: the draftime buck right. He talked about how I was

1396
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: in control of my process. I was slow, I wasn't

1397
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: forcing it. You were wondering why isn't he shooting yet?

1398
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: Was because I was in it. I was focused, I

1399
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: was in control. In this case, it was the the

1400
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: ship was moving and I was just hanging on and UM,

1401
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm better than that. I'm experienced enough that

1402
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,880
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have let that happen. But it did. And

1403
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: I eventually decided that, you know, kind of back to

1404
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: what I was telling you the other day, Dan, you

1405
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, all you can do is is figure out

1406
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 1: what you can do next and what good can come

1407
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: from this. Um. We had this podcast a month or

1408
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: two ago, a month ago maybe with the author of

1409
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: this book The Obstacles the Way, and the idea here

1410
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: is that oftentimes like it's the challenge, it's the thing

1411
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: that goes wrong, it's the roadblock that is actually what

1412
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 1: leads to the thing you want. That's what's gonna lead

1413
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: you to growth, that's gonna lead you to success if

1414
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: you if you if you choose to look at it

1415
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,919
Speaker 1: as as you're the victim, then it can be your downfall.

1416
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: If you look at it, Okay, this is a thing

1417
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: that happened, Now what that can actually be the impetus

1418
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 1: for for good things? And so looking back on I thought, Okay,

1419
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 1: I could keep this to myself and I know what

1420
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: he has to know, and no one needs to look

1421
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: at Mark and think he's an idiot or think he

1422
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: shanked the shot at the buck of his life. The

1423
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 1: buck he's talked about. No one will give me crap

1424
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: on Instagram, bought it, no one will judge me, and

1425
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: my friends won't know. Um blah blah blah blah blah

1426
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 1: and all that seemed very um tempting in that moment.

1427
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 1: But then over the course of that day, I thought, Okay,

1428
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: this thing happened, Now what are you gonna do about it?

1429
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: And there's two good things that could come out of

1430
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 1: One of the good things could be that I could

1431
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 1: learn from it. I could once again see one of

1432
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: my see an examine and learn from one of my

1433
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 1: mistakes and get better from it. But also maybe this

1434
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: is something that we can use as an example. It

1435
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 1: can help all other people too. And I think what

1436
01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,679
Speaker 1: I've tried to do with this podcast has never positioned

1437
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 1: myself as like I am the end I'll be all

1438
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: expert in all things, and you should look at me

1439
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:50,799
Speaker 1: and listen to me, and I'm gonna tell you exactly

1440
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 1: how to do things perfectly. Um, I'm not that guy.

1441
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 1: Anyone who listens knows that I'm not the guy that

1442
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: you need to put on a pedestal and think, Man,

1443
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: that guy's a slayer, he's perfect and feeling I could

1444
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: be like that. No, I have been someone who has

1445
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: a huge passion for this thing, and I'm always trying

1446
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: to get better. And I want to share with everyone

1447
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: what's working, what's not, what we can learn from my

1448
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: mistakes and others, and how do we all grow from them?

1449
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: And so here I am. I'm at my the biggest mistake,

1450
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 1: the biggest failure of my hunting um journey in a

1451
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: good number of years. I haven't had a doozy like

1452
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: this in a long time. And and here I am

1453
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: my my big goal. I've been going after this thing.

1454
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: I put more time and energy into. You know, I

1455
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,759
Speaker 1: did this thing. I blew it. And so the question

1456
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 1: is not what's marking to do? What can you do? Um?

1457
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: And And for what it's worth, what I've tried to do,

1458
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: what I decided to do is all right. And dude,

1459
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: just what Dan did that night that won't hurt? It

1460
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: was like a knife in the back. I just felt

1461
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: like I let myself down, my family down, you know, whatever.

1462
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 1: You know. I don't mean to over dramatize it, but

1463
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: it felt intense for me. But the next day got

1464
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: the bow out and just kept shooting, shooting and shooting shooting,

1465
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: thinking through, how do you not make that same mistake again?

1466
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: What did I learn from this? I learned that I

1467
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: still do lose control. Now. I thought maybe I had

1468
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 1: it all under control. I thought maybe I wouldn't fall

1469
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 1: prey to that, but the pressure was there. I felt

1470
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: like I had to force it, and I did, and

1471
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: that was a mistake. So next time, hopefully it's gonna

1472
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: be a thing where I can catch myself. I can

1473
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: remember the pain of this moment and not let that

1474
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: happen again. I can be better prepared for the next situation. Um,

1475
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 1: and all this, the point of any and all this

1476
01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: is that it's gonna happen. It does happen. Happened to me,

1477
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 1: happened to Justin, happened to Dan. Um. I hope it

1478
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: doesn't happen to Dane with your bow, but thank you

1479
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 1: appreciate that. I hope it hasn't. But in this there's

1480
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: no like secret formula here, there's no, like secret actic,

1481
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 1: I can tell you it's gonna be like, hey, here's

1482
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: this thing, and it's gonna change you, and you're never

1483
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 1: gonna miss anymore. You're gonna be You're gonna be just

1484
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: a bow hunting assassin now and you're gonna be ice cold. No,

1485
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: you need to live through these things. You gotta work

1486
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 1: through them. You gotta keep practice, and you gotta keep trying.

1487
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: You gotta keep the faith. You have to decide that No,

1488
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let that define me. No, I'm not

1489
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 1: gonna let that ruin the rest of my season. You

1490
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 1: can't change the past. All you can do is decide

1491
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,720
Speaker 1: what do you do next? And damn it, that's I'm

1492
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: gonna do. Keep getting after, keep getting better, keep hunting,

1493
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: and maybe I'll kill this buck someday. Maybe I won't,

1494
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 1: but I know that I am different and it will

1495
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: be better because of it. And I think, as a

1496
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: hunter or dad, or a businessman or a woman or anything,

1497
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: you're not always going to be a successful reaching your goal,

1498
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: but you can always get better. You can always work

1499
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 1: to take that next step, and that's that's something worth

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01:16:54,600 --> 01:17:01,759
Speaker 1: striving for. So that's where I'm at, Well said any thoughts,

1501
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,400
Speaker 1: any closing words, anything else we want to add to

1502
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: this before wrapping it up. H I got nothing, no, man,

1503
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 1: I'm good. All right. Well, then here's what we're gonna do.

1504
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 1: We're gonna go out for our last ton of the trip. Dan,

1505
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna try to get you your first Dear, I hope,

1506
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: and I'm crossing all my fingers and toes. They're gonna

1507
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: get a crack at one. Are you wanting to shoot

1508
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:34,840
Speaker 1: a do tonight? Okay, yeah, so so we've got higher

1509
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: higher odds. We're gonna stop the podcast now and if

1510
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 1: we shoot a deer tonight, we're gonna come back. We're

1511
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 1: gonna stop for five seconds. We have a long pause here,

1512
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: and then we'renna jump right back and we're gonna tell

1513
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 1: you Dan's story of success. If we don't shoot a

1514
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 1: deer tonight, you're gonna hear five second pause and the

1515
01:17:57,200 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: damn things just gonna end. We'renna leave you with five

1516
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 1: seconds of drama and then you're gonna find out how

1517
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:09,599
Speaker 1: tonight went one way or another. So that Dan, let's

1518
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 1: cross our fingers and toes. Dane, same to you. You're

1519
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: hunting to hoping that you have some success tonight. Feed

1520
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,600
Speaker 1: on the ground, Feeding the ground. Yeah, we're gonna have

1521
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 1: an exciting Hunt's gonna groundpound it. It's gonna be good. Okay,

1522
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: are we ready? Thinks? So all right, let's start a

1523
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: five second pause in five four three two one, and

1524
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 1: unfortunately we don't have the happy ending. I had a

1525
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:44,799
Speaker 1: really close call at last light. A couple of dolls

1526
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 1: came out and Dan almost got a shot at one

1527
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: of them, but the only shot opportunity came when the

1528
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:55,280
Speaker 1: two doors were stacked. There was one younger one directly

1529
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: behind the baby mature dough and we didn't want to

1530
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: take that shot and possible hit both, so we passed

1531
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 1: on it. A situation where Dan did the smart thing

1532
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:10,799
Speaker 1: and didn't force a potentially risky shop. So that was tonight,

1533
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:16,639
Speaker 1: and with that, we're gonna wrap this episode up. I

1534
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 1: I kind of struggled with this one, especially even after

1535
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 1: we recorded it. As we were walking out to Hunt,

1536
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: I was just thinking my head, did we achieve anything

1537
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: with this podcast? Did we help anyone with this podcast?

1538
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: Was there anything revolutionary with this that was actually gonna

1539
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: help someone that made this worth listening to? I don't

1540
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't know UM, I sure hope so UM recording

1541
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 1: this and putting this out there, I sure as how

1542
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,559
Speaker 1: hope there's some good that can come from this. I

1543
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 1: hope it wasn't just us rambling on about the cruddy

1544
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: things that happened to us. UM. But if you're listening

1545
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: to this and that's how you feel, I'm sorry. I

1546
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 1: hope I hope that's not the case. Though. UM, you

1547
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: know it's it's one of those things that is a

1548
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: tough it's a tough deal, right. But I will close

1549
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 1: with this thought, which is after my miss on tram

1550
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: that I just told you it's all about, which obviously

1551
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, really really bummed me out. As I described,

1552
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: after all those things happened, UM, I had one really

1553
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: important thing that I remembered, and that was my kids.

1554
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: I knew I was going to go home and see

1555
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:37,639
Speaker 1: my boys, I was gonna see my wife. And though

1556
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: at times it can feel it, deer hunting is so

1557
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 1: so important, and that whether or not I achieved this

1558
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: goal is so so important. Ah, having children or family

1559
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 1: members or those other things in life, UM, that can

1560
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 1: center you again remembering those things and those really really

1561
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: good things in your life that can help you put

1562
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: all this in perspective. So, yeah, uh, I missed a deer.

1563
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah it was a deer I really wanted to get

1564
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: a shot at. Yeah, I'm very disappointed. At the same time,

1565
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 1: life goes on. I've got a couple of wonderful kids.

1566
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: I've got a great family, a good job. I'm very fortunate.

1567
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 1: You can't hang your head for too long. And that's

1568
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 1: what I remember. And I went home, and I gave

1569
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 1: my boys a hug, and I ran around pretending to

1570
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:25,719
Speaker 1: be a wolf while my son pretended to be an elk,

1571
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 1: and I helped him shoot his pretending nerf bow and

1572
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 1: we're laughing and playing and having a grand old time,

1573
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: and everything is okay. So, for whatever it's worth, that's

1574
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: something that I that I often times need to remind

1575
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 1: myself of that this stuff can sometimes be all consuming,

1576
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 1: but you you don't need to let it be. There's

1577
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: more to it. And I'm really lucky. I've got a

1578
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 1: couple of kidouts here at home that helped me remember

1579
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 1: that often. So that is it. That's my long winded,

1580
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: rambling final thought of the day. I hope this is

1581
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,839
Speaker 1: helpful in some kind of way. Thank you for listening,

1582
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: Thanks for hearing us out and uh and rolling with

1583
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 1: us on this one. Hopefully we're all going to learn

1584
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 1: a little something, We're all gonna get a little better,

1585
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: We're all going to enjoy the rest of our seasons.

1586
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: I hope you guys are having a great season, and

1587
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 1: I will leave you with one final reminder some good news.

1588
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 1: Good news is that, like I mentioned earlier, season two

1589
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: of the Back forty is now out there in the

1590
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 1: second episode just dropped a few days ago, So heading

1591
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: over to the Meat Eater YouTube channel to watch episode two.

1592
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 1: That's the one that Dan Jjo the guy were talking

1593
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 1: to there. That's the episode in which we introduced him

1594
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 1: and you see him working on the farm, So check

1595
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 1: it out. Thank you for everything. We appreciate your time

1596
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 1: being a part of this community spending some time with us,

1597
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 1: and until next time, stay wired to Hunt.