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Speaker 3: this funky Flashback Friday. Did Aaron Judge us in a

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Speaker 3: two run home run?

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Speaker 4: Or did I miss that? What happened?

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Speaker 2: I didn't see it.

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Speaker 1: If that's the case, He's walking around and it's four

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Speaker 1: and it was three to two Baltimore's four to two Yankees.

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Speaker 4: I did not watch, Rob g. Do you know that

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Speaker 5: I do not watch Yankee games either out Okay.

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Speaker 6: Just say it, you do it, radio show. As long

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Speaker 6: as Aaron Judge ain't up, it's Cody, right, Cody's up.

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Speaker 1: It was a two run home run by Aaron Judge,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what we talked about. This, this this final

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Speaker 2: It could be. It can that race.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: If he has a big weekend right and cal doesn't,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it could change.

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Speaker 6: Look, this is gonna be one of those ones people.

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Speaker 6: I remember that that summer of you will not run

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Speaker 6: the fall. But you know what I mean that that

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Speaker 6: season where it was that close, came down to the

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Speaker 6: to the last Sunday.

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Speaker 4: No doubt.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I don't know if yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 6: if kids really understand how fun it used to be. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You know, so gets kids like my daughters.

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Speaker 6: Man, I have to take them because they'll be blown away,

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Speaker 6: like they they'll see tricks they've never seen any games

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Speaker 2: It's still alive one hundred years later. It's awesome to.

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Speaker 4: See it really really is. And Rob g.

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Speaker 1: Almost blew a gasket last night. This is what I

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Speaker 1: talked about all the time, Kelvin.

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Speaker 7: This.

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Speaker 1: I'm not against athletes being on Okay, I'm not. People say, oh,

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Speaker 1: you just yelling goodnit podcast your yellen.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: The problem I have is that they have skin in

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Speaker 1: the game, and more than us Kelvin, who haven't played.

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Speaker 1: It's personal. It's always personal when they're ripping on each other.

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Speaker 1: Right when Chady McCoy called Dak Prescott ass on national television,

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Speaker 1: And last night the personal attacks against Russell Wilson, which

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Speaker 1: So let's hear that first, Tony Gonzales first, and then

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Speaker 1: Richard Sherman Payne talking about Russell No, not talking about

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Speaker 4: Do you think we've seen the last of Russell Wilson?

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Speaker 2: Honest, I hope we have.

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Speaker 2: When he was in Seattle, he was the man. He

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Speaker 8: But as soon as he left there, he went the

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Speaker 2: They paid him thirty nine million dollars to leave.

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Speaker 8: He goes to Pittsburgh, plays there one year, he's out

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Speaker 9: Like that's he was a winning football player in Seattle,

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Speaker 9: and people said, hey, winning his football player, all this

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Speaker 9: I'm this guy that's gonna be dominant, and it just

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Speaker 1: Before we before we get to all takes Kelvin uh huh,

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Speaker 1: Rob G will give you this, the facts that were

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Speaker 1: Rob G, let's get some facts. Everybody's sitting around that

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Speaker 1: as fat and none of it is fat.

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Speaker 5: So sher made a points that, hey, he was only

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Speaker 5: great with the Legion of Boom, and he pointed out

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Speaker 5: It was bad what he neglected to mention where there's

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Speaker 10: Between I thought that immediately between after the Legion of

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Speaker 4: Calvin right there in those three seasons there. But but

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Speaker 11: Is telling you as fact that he was garbage once

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Speaker 2: It's not true, Richard.

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Speaker 11: She just say it, Richard, I can't stand Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 11: And I'm gonna sit here and give you a bold

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Speaker 11: add up. What about that twelve and fourth season, what

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Speaker 11: That's why we need journalists on this said, with these

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Speaker 11: personal vandettas against other athletes is pathetic.

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Speaker 4: It's sickening, it's hard to stomach and watch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're on your campaign trail right there. Brother. Hey,

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Speaker 4: At the part.

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Speaker 6: This is where you're not wrong thirty three and fifteen

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm totally open to the conversation.

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Speaker 6: However, he'd ignored basically half a run with y'all, half

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Speaker 2: So I Richard Shermon was trivin.

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Speaker 6: On that now I heard Tony Gonzalez sounded more almost

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Speaker 6: So I'm with you on Richard Shermon, and it's clearly

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Speaker 6: personal for him, just say it clearly personal. For Marshawn Lynch,

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Speaker 6: it's clearly personal. For a handful of other guys from

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Speaker 6: those Seattle teams. It's clearly personal. For Sean Payton. It

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Speaker 6: might be personal for the Steelers. We know it's personal

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Speaker 6: I know they had it out last year. So there

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Speaker 6: is something about Russell Wilson that's rubbing people the wrong

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Speaker 4: Maybe he has a good life that they don't.

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Speaker 6: He's asking people for his own office, he's asking guys

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Speaker 4: Far have had his own locker room with the Jets.

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Speaker 4: Nobody ever, nobody ever talks about that. He didn't even

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean that I'd be the guy to be

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Speaker 6: trying to talk to. You know, he wasn't an example

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Speaker 6: But that's what, honestly does worry me, Like with Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you on a personal as clear as day.

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Speaker 2: With Richard Sherman is screamed.

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Speaker 6: Personal is scream I don't like the d because there

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Speaker 6: was no facts to it. But I am open to

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Speaker 6: the conversation of guys who are not shoeins still having

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Speaker 6: a chance to gain or lose a spot in the

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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford ain't a shoein.

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Speaker 6: He can gain if he messed around and win another

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl this year, next year he might That might

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Speaker 6: be the cementing point for him to get in. Right,

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Speaker 6: But you're teetering when you're Russell Wilson. You were right there.

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Speaker 6: You were at the club, hanging out in the entrance

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Speaker 6: looking seeing all the ladies in the club, but you

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Speaker 6: ain't fully in yet. And now the bouchers can come

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Speaker 6: and bounce you up out of there when you have

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Speaker 6: a run of four or five bad seasons.

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Speaker 2: But that getting kicked out of teams.

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Speaker 4: So I hear that. But when you make it as

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Speaker 4: if he never played any good except for when he

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Speaker 4: had a great defense, that's where I just have to.

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Speaker 2: And I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 6: That's because he became me and Rob g and you

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Speaker 6: have talked about this before on and off the air.

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Speaker 6: He might be one of the greatest deep ball passes

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Speaker 6: in the last twenty twenty five years, like.

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Speaker 2: He's had some success.

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Speaker 6: But here's a couple of things where I would get

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Speaker 6: concerned if I was Russell Wilson, his agent and his

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Speaker 2: Who are like, hey, you're you're You're a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 6: The concern is how the last five years have gone

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Speaker 1: Did Tony Gonzalez and Richard Sherman's attack on Russell Wilson

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Speaker 6: Is it possible? Is it too personal for Richard Sherman?

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Speaker 1: All right, let's start with Maurice in Virginia. You're on

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Speaker 4: What's up about Oh what's up?

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Speaker 15: What's up? Robin Kelvin Sherman doesn't know what he's talking about.

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Speaker 15: He didn't play himself, Well, maybe he did. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Here's the part of Maurice that that if somebody with

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Speaker 5: It's even worse than that, guys, this this dad will

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl win, and the other six guys three of

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Speaker 5: already in the Hall of Fame United is Peyton Varvre.

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Speaker 5: The other three are gonna get in Brady Rogers Breeze.

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Speaker 5: So to say like he wasn't also ran, he was

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Speaker 5: along for the ride is just so wildly different.

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Speaker 4: And that's the part. Kelvin.

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Speaker 1: You could have your beliefs or whatever, but you can't

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Speaker 1: discount his entire career. Could you have a personal vendetta

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Speaker 1: or something? Andre in Massachusetts, you're on the odd couple.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, what's up, dright, how you doing?

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Speaker 16: Thanks for taking the call? Listen our Richard Sherman turned

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Speaker 16: Tony Gondalez. There's clearly water under the bridge there, and

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Speaker 16: they frankly tell on themselves by going overboard. In there

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Speaker 16: now is Russell Wilson. He's down on one knee, you

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Speaker 16: know what I mean, he's having a tough time. But

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Speaker 16: by you piling on, that puts a bright light on

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Speaker 16: why are you taking it to this extent? And the

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Speaker 16: bottom line is this, we don't remember that this sent

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Speaker 16: at the end of a foster, a Hall of Fame

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Speaker 16: level player's career. We don't remember that about Johnny United,

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Speaker 16: we don't remember that about Joe name it.

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Speaker 7: You picked the player.

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Speaker 16: It's tough to leave the arena when you've been the guy.

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Speaker 16: So most people do stay too long. But in the

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Speaker 16: hand of the time and the scope of history, you

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Speaker 16: generally refer back to the glory days when they were

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Speaker 16: at their pinnacle, and that outweighs the the stuff at

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Speaker 16: the end, and they end up getting in to these

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Speaker 16: hall of fames and having these uh late lifetime achievements.

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Speaker 16: So rob to your point. You know you have to

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Speaker 16: be objective, okay, and you show that you're not when

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Speaker 16: you when you take shot unnecessarily you can just let

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Speaker 16: the proof speak for itself, you know, and then tell

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Speaker 16: the story right that you having to put the pi alogue,

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Speaker 16: thanks take difficult.

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Speaker 2: No problems.

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Speaker 4: Have you got some numbers and stats to break up

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Speaker 4: your point?

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Speaker 1: And then if you would have said Russell Wilson, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, uh, Richard Sherman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That Uh.

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Speaker 1: He failed to make the Pro Bowl the next four

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Speaker 1: years and he had, you know, a losing record, but

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Speaker 1: they got to be accurate like you do out there.

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Speaker 1: He's had numbers. None of them added up there.

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Speaker 6: He made it like he completely fell off the you know,

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Speaker 6: facity of map, and that was not the case. He's

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Speaker 6: falling off the map now, but he did not fall

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Speaker 6: off the map the handful of years after them. Essentially,

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Speaker 6: like I said, it's split in the half. Half was

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Speaker 6: great with him, half was really.

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Speaker 1: Good, but Tam made it like he was nothing once

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Speaker 1: the was the defense left, and that's true.

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Speaker 12: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

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Speaker 12: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm

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Speaker 12: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

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Speaker 12: iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 6: It is The ot Couple, Rod Parker Kelvin Washington on

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Speaker 6: the Funky Flashback Fridays. Hey, if you got aky knees,

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Speaker 6: if you got stiff back, sometimes those joints are not

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Speaker 6: cooperating on those days when your body is like nope,

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Speaker 6: thankfully there's a leave and with just one pill it

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Speaker 6: could keep it moving. Never get it was just as

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Speaker 6: how juvenile we are by the way, and we got

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Speaker 6: a guess. Alex came he letting our guests.

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Speaker 4: Now we all say this to the marl and just

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Speaker 4: tied the Mets. It's too two now down to number Iami.

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Speaker 6: It's just too much going on in base Ryley. Literally,

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Speaker 6: you're gonna have to keep me in breast. I can't

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Speaker 6: keep up with all of it. Right now, we are joined,

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Speaker 6: as I mentioned a moment ago, by Cadre Ishmael.

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Speaker 2: He is a Super Bowl champion.

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Speaker 6: He is a co host of the Purple pre and

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Speaker 6: postgame show on w JYZ TV in Baltimore, and he

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Speaker 6: is of course joining the I couple.

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Speaker 4: Now, Cadre, what's up, brother, what's happening?

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Speaker 7: Gentlemen, gentlemen? What's going on with y'all?

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna know, have you fumbled the football lately

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Speaker 1: and cost your team any games?

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Speaker 4: I'm just asking for a front.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm just saying, when you got Hall of Fame credentials,

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Speaker 7: you recognize that bad things might happen, but you get

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Speaker 7: a chance to bounce back and hopefully we get a

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Speaker 7: bounce back.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, let's let's stay there for a second. Bounce

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Speaker 6: back is gonna be tough against the Chiefs. World we

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Speaker 6: know Lamar Jackson currently is sitting at one and five,

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Speaker 6: including the playoffs against them against specifically Patrick Mahomes. One

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Speaker 6: of the things we talked about earlier was who needed

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Speaker 6: the game most. I said the ray needed the most

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Speaker 6: because I felt like the team could start to crack,

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Speaker 6: start to fall, start to start pointing fingers at each other.

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Speaker 6: Rob said the Chiefs because a great point. He said,

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Speaker 6: you know, looking at the division.

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Speaker 2: Where are you on that? And just what does it

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Speaker 2: take for Lamar Jackson and team to win?

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Speaker 7: Well, I think with the Ravens going into the year,

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Speaker 7: everyone was saying they had this roster that was the

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Speaker 7: best roster in the NFL and let them punch their

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Speaker 7: ticket to San Francisco and plays the super Bowl before

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Speaker 7: the season even starts. So I think if you get

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Speaker 7: also a one and three start, and depended upon what

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Speaker 7: metrics you use to calculate the percentages of teams in

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Speaker 7: NFL history to have made the playoffs with the one

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Speaker 7: in three record, I don't care what presented you would say,

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Speaker 7: it would be bleak and almost hardly improbable that you

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Speaker 7: would be able to accomplish set task. So I would

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Speaker 7: say the Ravens since they they had so much of

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Speaker 7: a hitch start over the rest of the league by

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Speaker 7: just having the roster on a piece of paper alone.

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Speaker 7: So with that, I think the Ravens going into our head,

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Speaker 7: they have to come away with a victory or Armageddon

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Speaker 7: is going to happen here in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: See here's why I disagree, because the division is there

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Speaker 1: for the taken, even if they were to lose. Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrows heard the Browns aren't good. Aaron Rodgers is forty

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Speaker 1: one years old, and Whillow off to a good start,

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Speaker 1: he could break down at any point, Like who scares

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Speaker 1: you in that division?

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Speaker 7: That?

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying they don't want to win, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think the season's over in that division if

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Speaker 1: they lose and become.

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Speaker 4: One and three.

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Speaker 7: John Harva, since winning the Super Bowl is four and seven.

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Speaker 7: So my retort to your retort on top of their

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Speaker 7: retort torch tour, is this that four and seven and

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Speaker 7: having a team that was supposed to be Super Bowl

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Speaker 7: or bust, that's a problem. Because if you do run

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Speaker 7: through your AFC North Division and yes, you made the

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Speaker 7: correct assumptions and assessments of each team, the boys, you

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Speaker 7: still got to play them and you there's no given win.

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Speaker 7: But if you look at it raw, you're looking at

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Speaker 7: a team that has struggled in the playoffs even into

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Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson era. So it is going to put in

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Speaker 7: focus can you win? Basically you're gonna if you're one

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Speaker 7: to three, and if you get into the playoffs, I

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Speaker 7: mean you're you're looking at your you're going to be

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Speaker 7: a wild card team to begin with, and you're going

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Speaker 7: to go up against those teams that you had l's.

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Speaker 1: Against what they were winning all the games and winning

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Speaker 1: a division and all that, they haven't been able to

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Speaker 1: get there off of that.

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Speaker 4: I've seen the Green Bay Packers of the sixth seed win.

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Speaker 4: I've seen the Giants of the sixth seed win twice. Like,

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Speaker 4: maybe it's a different path and maybe it's not great

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Speaker 4: to be the hunting I mean, you know, the top dog,

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Speaker 4: and you have to fight your way and build to it.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying is there's a different way when

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Speaker 1: they seem to be the top dog at the top

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 4: It just hasn't worked out for them.

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Speaker 7: So I like that glass half full approach. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I'm a glass half full of person, and I think

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Speaker 7: that for Baltimore, it seems that when everyone is against them,

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Speaker 7: they seem to rise up and they answer the call.

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Speaker 7: What's that?

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Speaker 5: Said?

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Speaker 7: John Ardross Bills four and seven. So I am curious

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Speaker 7: to see what changes and how his coaching staff can

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Speaker 7: handle the set adjustments that are needed to get his

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Speaker 7: team to play well enough, especially if they do make

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Speaker 7: the playoffs.

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Speaker 6: Codre is my guest right now on the Odd Couple

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Speaker 6: Robin Kevin on a funky flashback Friday. You know it's funny,

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Speaker 6: Condrie is The game of the week is the one

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Speaker 6: we're talking about with two teams who've only won one

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Speaker 6: game each. But there's another game that if I told

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Speaker 6: you it four weeks ago, you would have thought it

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Speaker 6: wouldn't be sexy, but it kind of is now. That's

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Speaker 6: the Colts at the Rams three and oh Colts two

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Speaker 6: and one, Rams Colts playing very well. Stikeen's got the

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Speaker 6: best version of Danny Dimes we've ever seen. What do

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Speaker 6: you make of the Colts right now? Are they a

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Speaker 6: real team or is this just the cards are gonna

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Speaker 6: fall and fumble here soon?

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm hoping Daniel Jones is the real deal. I

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Speaker 7: think Shane Stankin is hoping that he's the real deal,

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Speaker 7: and he believes in him. I think one thing we

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Speaker 7: know with him is that this offense seems to fit him.

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Speaker 7: I think that he probably learned it off a lot

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Speaker 7: sitting back and watching how things operated in Minnesota before

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Speaker 7: he got his opportunity there in Indy. Their defense is

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Speaker 7: strong and stout enough, and so why not why not

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Speaker 7: be that team? I think if the Rams look at it,

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Speaker 7: they're sitting they're feeling pretty confident that all they got

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Speaker 7: to do a cigarette how not to give up two

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Speaker 7: block too goals? So the teams that really what's hurting

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Speaker 7: them more than anything. Both teams have skills to make

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Speaker 7: explosive plays. It's the team that has the determination to

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Speaker 7: not make a mistake that's going to be the team

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Speaker 7: that ultimately gets the victory.

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Speaker 4: No doubt.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about who's the other quarterback

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Speaker 1: we were just talking about, Sam Sam Donald. Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: on the flip side, who I was all for not

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Speaker 1: resigning the Vikings after he lost those two games, big

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Speaker 1: games at the end of last year. Where are you

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Speaker 1: on Sam do Arnold and his resurgence or his play

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Speaker 1: so far in Seattle?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think what day With Sam Donald. It's the

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Speaker 7: fact that he doesn't have to make the spectacular play

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Speaker 7: and it's more along the lines of, hey, I got

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Speaker 7: some talented receivers, let me just get them the football.

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Speaker 7: I think the Mike McDonald's way of coaching, it's about

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Speaker 7: my defense and as long as Sam Donald doesn't make

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Speaker 7: the critical error. I think he's smart enough and he's

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Speaker 7: better enough to yeah, manage the game, and that's not

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Speaker 7: a bad thing. I think he's seen enough football and

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Speaker 7: recognize that he doesn't have to do anything spectacular. Let

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Speaker 7: me just go out there and play. And he's been able.

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Speaker 2: To show that.

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Speaker 1: And last thing for me, Michael Parsons returning to Dallas,

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Speaker 1: there will be no video or anything from the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: which I agree. He didn't win anything there, even win

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Speaker 1: a Defensive Player of the Year. There's nothing that he

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Speaker 1: won that he's a great player, and he went to

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Speaker 1: Green Bay has to be traded. Are you cool with

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Speaker 1: that that they're not gonna honor him for coming back

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Speaker 1: to Dallas?

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't. I mean, you know, you're talking about the

665
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 7: legacy of the Cowboys and all that that entails, regardless

666
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 7: of whether or not they's you know, even been in

667
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 7: the playoffs and won and no Super Bowls in decades

668
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 7: and all that. But I mean, the history is the

669
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 7: history is the history. He's a key piece to it, sure,

670
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 7: but he's not like one of the all timers when

671
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 7: it comes to the Cowboys and establishing this mega legacy

672
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 7: of what number eleven meant to the Cowboys. So yeah,

673
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 7: I wouldn't honor him in that regards. By I'm sure

674
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 7: they're going to be you know, people love it on

675
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 7: him in a sense, but once the game kicks off,

676
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 7: you know what, if I'm Michael Persons, I'm like, yo,

677
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 7: I'm fighting to let Dak know, Hey, you haven't got

678
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 7: that special jersey that we can't touch you in practice.

679
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 7: The more I'm about to show you what my my

680
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 7: raft and how I feel it feels like when I

681
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 7: come up and hit you, Yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 6: I feel like, listen, they're gonna move on, They're not

683
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 6: gonna think about him. And I don't even think he

684
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 6: fully expected to get a tribute like I think he

685
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 6: knew I wasn't there legendary enough.

686
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: I didn't we didn't win rings.

687
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 4: That franchise has won money.

688
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, they got real guys who've done a bunch. I

689
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 6: think I think he's well versed enough to know that

690
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 6: tribute wasn't coming.

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Speaker 2: But if Fadre Man, we appreciate you, Joe.

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00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: You know what I would do will put a message

693
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 1: on the board and tell everybody to cancel their follow

694
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: of his podcast.

695
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 4: That's what I would saying. I would tell the Dallas

696
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 4: Cowboy fans they got a lot.

697
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: Of problems right now. They're with our CD LAMB.

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Speaker 7: I hear you on that. I think you know the

699
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 7: bottom line is that the Cowboys they have enough issues

700
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 7: of their own. And Michael Carson's well now that he's

701
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 7: with Green Bay. A lot of people are saying he

702
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 7: is kind of this modern day version of what Reggie

703
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 7: White did for Green Bay back in my day when

704
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 7: he was able to get them over the hop and

705
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 7: get a Super Bowl. So we'll see if it turns

706
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 7: out to be that way. But right now, yeah, Michael Parsons,

707
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 7: I don't think he is really worried about coming back

708
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 7: to Dallas and worrying about the fanfare.

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Speaker 2: All right, Cadre, appreciate you man, thank you.

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Speaker 7: I'm doing it again soon indued.

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Speaker 6: All right, hey, Rob, we saw something last night that's

712
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 6: happened a handful of times already this season, and the

713
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 6: NFL needs to cut it out.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you what we're talking about. It's The Odd Couple.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 12: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

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Speaker 12: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm

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00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 12: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

719
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 12: iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radios.

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Speaker 6: You boys, Rob Parker Kelvin Washington on a funky flashback Friday. Hold,

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00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 6: I feel obligated Rob to do the dance. Uh uh

723
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Speaker 6: uh uh the.

724
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 4: Jump on it?

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Speaker 2: Are you doing it? You better be doing it? Is

726
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 2: he doing it? Robgi? That'll be a no for me.

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00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 4: Dog and Robbie, you better be doing it. Really move

728
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 4: you want to hurt my bat?

729
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: You better get a leaf.

730
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 6: Speaking of which, if you got ak D stiff back

731
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 6: joints not cooperating some days your body and on those

732
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 6: days luckily there's a leave, but just one pill.

733
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: Rob Parker needs to take. This pill.

734
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 6: Lee provides up to twelve hours of paying relief so

735
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 6: you can keep it moving. Please use as directed.

736
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Speaker 2: Rob both.

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00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 4: Thanks.

738
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, he don't need no more of those blue pills.

739
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 6: No more those, especially not on those Golden Girl cruises.

740
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 5: Why do you think he wears the light blue pool

741
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 5: over in the studio?

742
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: Every good?

743
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 4: Point them.

744
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 6: That's a hey, robb Gi like that that jiff that

745
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 6: gift from my man pointing at his hand.

746
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: That's you right now, Robbie, staying ready.

747
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 5: You don't got to get ready exactly.

748
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: You be thinking a a right shout to Kya.

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00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 4: Basically the eminem's at this point, I'm just saying.

750
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 6: You just popping them like that like skittles and tic TACs. Hey, Alex,

751
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 6: what's the line with the ID.

752
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 4: If it's a sideway ID, it ain't for me.

753
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 2: There you have it real quick.

754
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 6: We've been having some we gotta talk about this kicking

755
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 6: this new NFL kickoff rule. I'm not a fan of

756
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 6: it in the sense that it's not that it's horrible

757
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 6: in and of it sell fellas. For me, it's that

758
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 6: they keep switching the rule up like we had this. Well,

759
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 6: this is the NFL.

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00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 4: They change. Something happens in a playoff game or something happened,

761
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: and they change the rule the next year like like that,

762
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 4: that's an issue. I do have that this.

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Speaker 6: Like it's the kickoff rule change in like four or

764
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 6: five years. First they remember it. It was about health, Rod.

765
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 6: We don't want people to get hit. We know the

766
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 6: most scariest play, the most harmful play, is a kickoff return.

767
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 6: That's the one we don't want people get hurt. So

768
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 6: we're gonna have it deep in. You know, we're gonna

769
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 6: move the kicking team forward, so they basically kick it

770
00:35:59,120 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 6: all the way through the en zones.

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00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 4: Nobody's run right, nobody returns it right.

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Speaker 6: And then and now it's too boring. We want the

773
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 6: action we were so I can't keep up with it.

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00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 6: And now it's costing teams because.

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00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 2: It's a lot of rules. You gotta kick it.

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00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 6: Between the twenty and the goal line, but then if

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00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 6: it kicks into the end zone. Back in the day,

778
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 6: I remember you could just leave it alone. It'll be

779
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 6: a touch back. Now you got to touch it because

780
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 6: then again, if you don't touch it, the other team

781
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 6: gets the ball. And so yesterday last night we saw

782
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 6: how this came to backfire for the Cardinals. They fall

783
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 6: all the way back, got back in this game, tied

784
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 6: it up twenty twenty, you know, under a minute left.

785
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: They kick it off and they go up.

786
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 6: It doesn't land lands like the twenty two yard line,

787
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 6: not the twenty y or below. And now the Seahawks

788
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 6: get the ball the forty.

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Speaker 4: And a half. To be honest, twenty it might not

790
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 4: even be twenty two.

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00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: You're right, it might have been twenty and a half.

792
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: They get the ball the forty. All you need is,

793
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: you know, fifteen twenty yards.

794
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 4: And you got a chance to win this win.

795
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: It's a fake win. It was set up. And that's

796
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: a bad rule right there.

797
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 6: And we saw it happen with the Steelers where against

798
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 6: the Patriots, the guy that kicked the Steeler score to

799
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 6: kick it off and it goes back in the end zone.

800
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 6: The guy doesn't grab it, he just got like he's

801
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 6: used to old rule, you just leave it along right here.

802
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 6: We go get out and then they go scoop it

803
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 6: up the Steelers and get a touchdown. It's just and

804
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 6: I know, if you're a special teamer, it's your responsibility,

805
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 6: your job to know the rules. Absolutely, I get that,

806
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 6: but my gosh, NFL make up your mind.

807
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: Is it about entertainment? Is it about health? Which one is?

808
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: It's never about health.

809
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: I don't care what they tell you, never about health.

810
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 4: The NFL could care less.

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00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: That's why they won an eighteenth game because those games

812
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: are worth way more money than a preseason game because

813
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: preseason is local TV, no money involved.

814
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 4: It's all about money. They don't care.

815
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: Now they can get twenty five games in the NFL season,

816
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: they would be you.

817
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 6: Ain't lying, We'll give you three, We'll give you two

818
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 6: additional buys as if as if you know that's gonna

819
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 6: help me from taking all these injuries and these hits

820
00:37:59,239 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 6: and all these blows.

821
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, they don't care. It's just about how

822
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: much money can we make. And unfortunately the players keep

823
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: going along with it until they are I'll say it

824
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 1: to you a million times, until they stop the games.

825
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 4: They will never have any leverage against the owners. Until

826
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 4: they stop.

827
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 6: We know that's probably not gonna happen, but yeah, man,

828
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 6: we've had three issue, rob what was the other one?

829
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 2: IM missing one more is another issue we saw.

830
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 5: The other one was with the ben Jonsono technically was

831
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 5: his fault where they said, hey, you could kick it

832
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 5: all way through the end zone, or kick it deep

833
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 5: and he kicks it deep into the end zone and

834
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 5: it allows them to run off the clock. Yeah, because

835
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 5: the old rule, if you kick it that deep, usually

836
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 5: the guy would take an eat.

837
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 2: Yep.

838
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Speaker 6: It's so confusing and that and that's a smart guy, right,

839
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 6: Ben Jons. You know, but dude, it's just they keep

840
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 6: switching it up on players. And again I can understand

841
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 6: it's the responsibility special teams, but this stuff because it's

842
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 6: not just one rule. It's not like always just kicking

843
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 6: off a little further. It's like there's rules to it

844
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 6: now multiple you can do this, you can take that,

845
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 6: you can do that. So make up your mind, NFL,

846
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 6: you confuse the people. Shot door said what we'll tap